Heather and Melanie, this conversation is enlightening, and heart-wise. Thank you so much! On the ancestral healing, back in 2011 I was talking with Divine Grace angels about a challenge related to a family member's lifelong health condition that was impacting me and others. The angels told me to make something physical, like a card, and write on it things like "You are safe. You are loved. You have everything you need." and with intention, send it back through that person's ancestral lines, and it would go back and come forward and help me and other impacted family members. In the following 3-6 months, 3 of us in the family had dramatic powerful healings, including that the person with the lifelong health condition healed from it. Later I started facilitating that process, what I call Boomerang Blessings, and I see people healing physically, emotionally, relationally, whatever they most need or desire. One person had a generational health condition, and ancestors communicated to that person "You are the one we've been waiting for." So, yes, it seems that all the beings that we consider in a generational line are receiving just the benefit they need, which makes things better for their children and their children, all the way to the youngest family member. And it seems to affect timelines as well as what must be millions of beings, truly even in the simultaneity of time. I also do this process on behalf of myself and all ancestors of different incarnations that I have experienced, known or unknown. I wonder how this fits in with Chiron and or the other Healing Centaurs. I have Chiron at my midheaven. What a juicy conversation this could be. So curious! Deep gratitude and powerful possibilities, ~ Jeanine DuBois
@@HeatherEnsworth I feel blessed and grateful. Thank you, Heather! I'm going to share the wonderful bit about the soul's timing that Melanie spoke to (starting around 16:53) with a couple friends that may find a personal internal resolution about their youth and the larger picture, what I call the Soul's Eye View. (I wonder if that may draw them in to listen more and find some other juicy nuggets. ;-) HeartFelt gratitude, ~ Jeanine DuBois
@@melanie.reinhart You're so welcome, Melanie. I had a literal experience of the boomerang of blessings (healings of all kinds) for me, family, and workshop participants. Divine Grace angels told me that we really are sending all that Light through all those generations. They suggested choosing crystals to serve as capacitors of sending that much Light energy. When it's not convenient, I simply ask the Himalayas or the Sierras or some other expansive mountains to serve as the capacitors. Wishing All Good Blessings Boomerang your way and for all Creation, ~ Jeanine DuBois
Such soul food from such wise, knowledgeable, generous, sensitive and magnificent embodiments of the sacred feminine! Heartfelt thank you both! I really love this sharing and could have listened for longer about Chiron being the bridge between Saturn and Uranus during this transition. I also resonated deeply with Melanie's observation on the new cosmology that we can feel the ancestors' realm in this dimension. As an Indigenous Mexican I have experienced it and honour them daily. For those who are interested in ancestor work, Family Constellations is an extraordinary field to explore. Much love and blessings to all
The conversation on ancestral connections being 7 generations future and past very much resonated with me. As we discover our, presently, invisible energetic connections with our ancestors I am resolved to connect with them more for assistance and resolution of lessons.
Lovely to hear Melanie's South African accent and so delighted to hear your discussion about ancestors. Traditional African and Khoisan cultures are deeply respectful of their family past. I am busy doing a large zodiac painting which includes my mother, maternal grandmother and paternal great grandmother. On a high after listening to your beautiful wisdom. 🙏🕊️😊💖🙏
Just wonderful. Thank you to both of you. Chiron opposed my natal Saturn when COVID affected my heart and cut through life-long defences. Your explanations make so much sense. 😊🙏💖🕊️
What a lovely and beautiful chat, thank you ladies. I would like to add, I agree that men do go though menopause, however, personally it’s a beautiful thing, if one follows one’s intuition, I would also go as far as to say, it’s a maturity and greater inerstanding, sadly many don’t embrace that part of life. Love & Blessings to all. ❤
I find that words do not convey how grateful I’m sure we all are to both of you for sharing this knowledge. I feel in my heart that what you say resonates completely. Your giving it a deeper meaning really helps me on my own journey. 💖💖🙏🙏
Much gratitude ladies/siStars for such an exquisite conversation that resonated on so many levels. After having gone through a deep trauma 4 years ago, stacked with others on top, and having no option but to process, witness, and hold space by myself, I greatly appreciated what Melanie mentioned regarding the various healing processes that stand out of time, somewhat regulated by powers much greater than ourselves.
Oh, thank you. What an exquisite conversation, Heather and Melanie. It resonated with me so deeply. You both have language and voices that traverse the realms beyond linear time and express the inexpressible, the mystery, of these beautiful Centaurs. I loved it all, was very struck by your sense of 'mending', Melanie, that feels so true of this time. And when you spoke at the outset of what you're drawn to research, Melanie, I was reminded of the aside Bessel van der Kolk makes in 'The Body Keeps the Score', quoting his colleague Beatrice Beebe: 'most research is me-search'. Many thanks for your great wisdom, we are so lucky to be able to listen to you converse, which feels deeply healing in itself.❤🙏
Gratitude for all the wonderful, healing interviews Heather and thank you Melanie for your wisdom. You are so thorough and effective to the understanding out condition. I think we all have stories from back in 1977. I left home because of disappointments and got married and remember the breakdown that overwhelmed me, but I had no other way/survival. Chiron has become the Rainbow Bridge between the Inner and Outer Planets in my healing as Chiron transits and has now come full circled. Brings up the idea of the Chakra system of our very being that is infused at birth the freuency of the lessons we need. A healing approach to our journey. Now with the knowledge of our dna/amino acids and the shift we aare in to the opening of the multi dimensions through our complete healing and the tools we need to find the freedom that Uranus offers. This is a beautiful New Moon season... wow Leo!
My beautiful Lady Heather💕🩷💕& Lady Melanie 💕🩷💕 I wish I can convey what I am experiencing; at this point in time. Ive been taking a pilgrimage journey in my life/soul. It’s so intense. 😢. YES!!! You, just have to trust and have full faith 🩵🙏💙🙏 Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us on this deep topic.
Melanie was one of my tutors at the Centre for Psychological Astrology over 25 years ago. It’s amazing to have the privilege of her wisdom still. Thank you both
I love the inclusion of the ancestral thread which is something I observe every day in gratitude and with invocation of blessings. I have noticed that the charts in my birth family and my present family, as well as others' families I have been part of, show relationships and patterns. Energy is inscribed in flesh, as in light, as in the cosmos. We are all a part of Indra's Net, reflecting the same whole, but from different angles, immersed in different neighborhoods and families. The centaurs evoke Saggittarius, as well, pointing us towatd that center of our galaxy, the place for grounding our light bodies in this galaxy, as the center of the Earth is where we ground in our physical Earth bodies.
🌺🌈🌻Thank you Heather and Melanie for speaking about the soul and the spirit’s reaction to the chaos and challenges of the world in early and mid-life crisis. I do appreciate how your personal connection, deep empathic wisdom sparks your research Melanie and informs your insights and contributions in your conversations like this one with Heather and in your books. You both have a great integrity and compassion for our biology transitions, spiritual awakenings, ancestral healings, rebalancing the sacred masculine and feminine and understanding of humankind’s missteps in past linear research while trying to find new links to the invisible or in-between world. Thanks to the depth in your work and exploration in this conversation moving back and forth into the earth’s cosmic evolutionary astrological histories, it certainly helps us to understand that each life journey continues and each soul awakens independently to Source energies as part of the cosmic collective Consciousness. It’s not a straight time line but being helped now by Mars, the Sun, Leo and activated by calling on our ancestors for help and by embracing the energies of Chiron & Chariclo’s soul growth opening our hearts. ❤💫🪐🌙✨🌟I loved learning about Chariclo in the sacred space where the opposites of Saturn and Uranus meet. ❤❤️🩹❤️🔥💔💖
Thank you Heather and Melanie for your wisdom and insights on Chericlo, helping me to hold space in equinimity for my own healing journey and of my ancestors. Rich and textured conversation. Blessings 🙏🏽 💙
"My own willingness to sit with my own process - and that includes struggling with it, wanting it to go away - that commitment to the Soul life and the Inner journey - that itself is in a resonant field with any ancestors who might be resonating with things of my journey, as thermes run in families" - hearing this profound comment at this time in my own process has given me so much inspiration, hope and gratitude. Truly a lightbulb moment. Thank you Heather and Melanie for such a beautiful and soulful exchange, and reminding us of the magic, miracle and mystery of existence 🙏💚💫🌀✨💙
What a wonderful interview! Melonie brings alive and with deep understanding of Kiron and his wife… This is the type of interview that deserves a second listening to obtain much of the shared wisdom. Thank you Heather and Melonie. Peace!
My phone rolled out of bed this morning (as I fell asleep the night before listening to something on RUclips) and started playing the new moon update from Heather. This was the first time I have ever heard of her. I listened for the first few minutes without picking my phone up, immediately drawn by her gentle way of speaking with so much knowing and wisdom flowing. I finished watching the rest of it, and have been feeling into it the whole day. I opened youtube again about an hour ago, and saw this video - drawn to Melanie’s full name because it sounded South-African, and I’m from SA. These are the elders and crones we are calling forth. And we’re listening. The blessing and confirmations I’ve received because of these two women today I am eternally grateful for. Thank you ❤️
Gosh, that was fascinating! Thank you for bringing this information to us. I also really appreciate the confluence of your energies, the calm manner with which you integrate your wisdom and attentively listen to one another. Truly pleasurable to have such a stimulating, thought provoking atrological aspects explored with such compassion and sagacity. Balm.🙏
Wow what beautiful timing! I’ve just been rewatching your past interviews. So happy to learn more from you two. It’s truly been life changing to hear your conversations.
I love Melanie's opening comment about the need to have a direct feeling or relationship with something before deepening the learning. This is validation for myself, I do not have mercury retrograde in my chart, but this resonates. Incorporation of what was, rather than destruction, as the agency of Saturn and Uranus is so powerful. The "crucial edge" of Chiron at the edge of the boundary, God of the in-between, Uranus as a clear space of the unknowable future - what a beautiful picture. Calling in healing awareness around how we try and control our future vision with anxiety-based structures. Understanding that transitional times are a reactivation/integration space for healing (menopause) with its own timing and logic that sometimes syncs with our clock time but has its own unfolding...tuning into the invisible yin qualities of Chariclo as the lodestone emanation of that consciousness (clues to how it functions in the healing process) is so instructive! Holding the capacity to feel seen, held and heard is where I have been focusing my energies in my own life. I feel I have always occupied this role, but this has been a wound rather than a strength, now I am beginning to tap into the deep power in this act. I love the understanding that the ancestral healing wisdom naturally unfolds in those transitional spaces between the living and the dead and this is part of the new earth. Our willingness to sit with the uncomfortable parts of our process and inner journey is our connection point with ancestral resonance - the thread that will resonate back and into the future. The "raw effects" of the astronomy speaking on a symbolic level is such a gem of insight that I will be holding with me from here on out. I don't know about others but I have been feeling such a shift in the quality and malleability of time. Thank you Heather and Melanie for sharing. I truly look forward to these wise and wonderful talks!
There is so much in this interview of which I am grateful, thank you! As an example, I loved how she saw the boundary of Capricorn 30° and Aquarius 1° as an expression of the Chiron archetype. As you mentioned, Chiron has indeed been very present in 2023 and 2024 while Pluto straddles such a boundary; even being exactly conjunct the new moon at the April 8 solar eclipse! I also gained a huge appreciation for Chariklo, who in myth was not a centaur but a nymph, and which I will now begin to incorporate in my astrology. This is another video that my psyche will ruminate for days to come. Thank you again. 🙏
Thank you Heather for all the wonderful awakening inspiring healing conversations your are bringing to us , it’s the only way to bring inner peace to ourselves and then to bring peace to the all world 🙏🙌❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹💞💞💞☯️☯️☯️☮️☮️☮️
Yay, my two favourite Elder women🙏 I look forward to listening in. Chiron is sooo strong in my chart, 9th house in 23+ Taurus, which transiting Uranus is now on, it is incredible what it's all bringing up, not all easy but absolutely insightful and creatively life transforming. 🙏♥
You are both amazing And a gift to my hearts longing for belonging and sharing with purpose and love this precious human existence. Please return soon with your wisdom nectar
Fascinating! ❤love this‼️ makes so much sense 🌏 🙏🏻 Thank you both and Yes, please, do talk for hours and permit us to listen in 🤩 Very enlightening and helpful! Much love to ALL 🙏🏻💖 💫
I so love this wise women dialogue♥️ Your Stellar Hearts are a Lighthouse for these times🌟 40:09 and yes, we must greet our ‘witness’ with open ease and innate wisdom of what is seen and not-seen✨🦋✨ All is connected ♾️💞♾️
Thank you both so much for such an interesting and enlightening interview. You really are paying the way for our continuing awakening. Bless you both Heather and Melanie ❤❤
Another Valuable, beautiful discussion …. Thank you…. And yes Dr Daniel Foor’s work is very very good….I look forward to further discussions with Melanie ❤❤❤
Wow 12.50 so needed to hear this right now thank you both! Massive "in between" place in my life with my daughter having recently moved out of home along with other factors, I'm currently exactly on my Chiron return at 23 degrees Aries (6th house)... still more to listen to and am wanting to learn more about Chariklo and how I can tune into her energy as she sits in exact natal conjunction to my Sun at 11 degrees Aries, I'm sure she has gifts to help me through 🧜♀💖✨
Listening to Melanie is like listening to astrological poetry. I always learn something new and very profound, (for example, Chronos AND Chiros!) and it’s always such a pleasure. Thank you both so much!
Sooo timely mamas! I appreciate you both greatly. Literally have been diving into my Chiron in Taurus.. which is my ninth house and houses my sun, mercury, Venus and mars! Sheesh. Thankful for all this affirmation. ❤❤❤
Thank you for both of you sharing your wonderful wisdom and great love. I am a astrologer and shamanic healer, and this year is my Chiron return, and I just realized the transiting North Node is right on my natal Chariko conjunct my IC while listening this interview, realizing wow, what a synchronicity that speaks so loud to me about the new understanding of the wise woman spiritual work and healing work I do all these years. I mean it all make sense to a new level. Maybe my chariclo quality is also about the collective future. Also, with my natal Chiron in the 4th, I truly love those inspirations about the ancestral work Melanie has shared. I am from Taiwan, I used to attend to Melanie's workshops here around 2012. Now I am deeply grateful to have your wisdom to guide me during this time of my own chiron return time. I love you both as my fav female astrology teachers. Blessings and Love to you both great wise woman ❤
Heather, in this conversation, you reminded me of the Sphinx, enigmatic, wise, the witness; and Melanie was the quicksilver moonbeam slowly sweeping her hypnotic light hither and thither...and the two of you, such Cosmic Sisters, radiant with your magnificent gifts of serene, symbolic offerings...like a magnificent banquet. Thank you so much! Much love and gratitude!❤ (PS I secretly think of you as Chariklo...🤩)
Wonderful insights to reflect upon. I love the ideas of Chariclo providing a Yin space to allow healing to take place & bearing witness to the process. I feel that many of us are in this situation, in relation to global events, where we cannot take actions to directly effect change, & all we can do is to bear witness. There is a form of Tui Na - Traditional Chinese Massage - which is Yin - providing gentle support - holding the body to give permission to the person to feel safe & a space for spontaneous healing to take place without intervention. Dr Janice Hadlock, a Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor based in the USA, has written about her practice of Yin Tui Na.
Thank you both so very much! I had thought that our healing, and when doing my work on others, I’ve seen through mediumship that the ancestors are invested in each healing. Love this validation ❤
Dear Heather and Melanie, there is something I am not clear about. To my understanding, Chiron, while (mainly in Aquarius) orbited between Uranus and Neptune. I feel it collected information about our flawed ideals as well as pointed to where we are short of Aquarian principles. Somewhere between 2006 and 2010. Then, it crossed over to continue its orbit between Saturn and Uranus while in Pisces, 2011-2018 bringing back all that info, but since it is so far from the Sun and especially because it was in Pisces, it was very difficult to get a conscious vision of it. Then it went into Aries, where we start anew, but because Chiron is an agent with a paralysing effect this resulted in an additional difficulty to heal. That is maybe the reason behind the fact that there has been such a proliferation of methods of healing all over the world. We know we are sick, we know there is an infinite number of ways to get better and yet we are paralysed. Chiron is faring so so so far from the center, trying to deal with collective ailments and we as individual are left with swimming, drifting along with Saturn in Pisces, feeling lost and powerless. Does this resonate with you at all?
Thank you for sharing these thoughts and questions, and perhaps Melanie will respond and provide more information and wisdom in response. My understanding is that Chiron never crosses over the orbit of Uranus (though it gets close to it), so it doesn't orbit between Uranus and Neptune but rather between Saturn's orbit and Uranus' orbit. I also do not see Chiron as "an agent with a paralysing effect." I view transits with Chiron (in whatever sign it is in) as bringing active, healing energy to that sign and to the house and aspects that it activates in our own charts. I do see the expansion of our exploration of holistic and energy ways of healing as being catalyzed by Chiron's discovery in 1977 and its ongoing influence in our lives individually and collectively.
always fascinating. I call my shadow psychic ancestry book 'the book I'm not writing' over the past 10 years - with mandalas - maybe the 'timing' has never been right for it - praps now??
Thank you for this beautiful conversation . I wonder if you have ever looked at, or had direct experience of how the horse has and is facilitating people opening up to other dimensions, and self knowledge? I am not talking about sport or competition.
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Im listening, mesmerised. I have Sun, Mercury & Chiron conjunct in 12th House. I only understand through feelings.
Lovely to hear you both, very natural
one of my favorite conversations yet! thank you both for your wisdom 🌟
I have always wondered whether my clearing work on myself was benefiting others (especially my children) and this gives me more hope.
Absolutely! Your clearing and healing work on yourself emanates out and affects all those around you -- especially your children! Blessings to you.
Thankyou both.
Wonderful information and perspective 🫶
Heather and Melanie, this conversation is enlightening, and heart-wise. Thank you so much! On the ancestral healing, back in 2011 I was talking with Divine Grace angels about a challenge related to a family member's lifelong health condition that was impacting me and others. The angels told me to make something physical, like a card, and write on it things like "You are safe. You are loved. You have everything you need." and with intention, send it back through that person's ancestral lines, and it would go back and come forward and help me and other impacted family members.
In the following 3-6 months, 3 of us in the family had dramatic powerful healings, including that the person with the lifelong health condition healed from it. Later I started facilitating that process, what I call Boomerang Blessings, and I see people healing physically, emotionally, relationally, whatever they most need or desire. One person had a generational health condition, and ancestors communicated to that person "You are the one we've been waiting for."
So, yes, it seems that all the beings that we consider in a generational line are receiving just the benefit they need, which makes things better for their children and their children, all the way to the youngest family member. And it seems to affect timelines as well as what must be millions of beings, truly even in the simultaneity of time. I also do this process on behalf of myself and all ancestors of different incarnations that I have experienced, known or unknown.
I wonder how this fits in with Chiron and or the other Healing Centaurs. I have Chiron at my midheaven.
What a juicy conversation this could be. So curious!
Deep gratitude and powerful possibilities,
~ Jeanine DuBois
Thank you for sharing this profound experience of ancestral healing with us. Blessings to you.
@@HeatherEnsworth I feel blessed and grateful. Thank you, Heather! I'm going to share the wonderful bit about the soul's timing that Melanie spoke to (starting around 16:53) with a couple friends that may find a personal internal resolution about their youth and the larger picture, what I call the Soul's Eye View. (I wonder if that may draw them in to listen more and find some other juicy nuggets. ;-)
HeartFelt gratitude,
~ Jeanine DuBois
What a beautiful phrase "Boomerang Blessings"! Thanks for sharing that.
@@melanie.reinhart You're so welcome, Melanie. I had a literal experience of the boomerang of blessings (healings of all kinds) for me, family, and workshop participants. Divine Grace angels told me that we really are sending all that Light through all those generations. They suggested choosing crystals to serve as capacitors of sending that much Light energy. When it's not convenient, I simply ask the Himalayas or the Sierras or some other expansive mountains to serve as the capacitors.
Wishing All Good Blessings Boomerang your way and for all Creation,
~ Jeanine DuBois
Such soul food from such wise, knowledgeable, generous, sensitive and magnificent embodiments of the sacred feminine! Heartfelt thank you both! I really love this sharing and could have listened for longer about Chiron being the bridge between Saturn and Uranus during this transition. I also resonated deeply with Melanie's observation on the new cosmology that we can feel the ancestors' realm in this dimension. As an Indigenous Mexican I have experienced it and honour them daily. For those who are interested in ancestor work, Family Constellations is an extraordinary field to explore. Much love and blessings to all
Thank you for sharing this. Blessings to you.
The conversation on ancestral connections being 7 generations future and past very much resonated with me. As we discover our, presently, invisible energetic connections with our ancestors I am resolved to connect with them more for assistance and resolution of lessons.
Thank you dear sisters for this beautiful wisdom.
Marvelous message and much love from Sweden and we are doing this together so Thank you so very very much ✨🩵🙏❤️👌🇸🇪🌏💦🐬☀️🦋💫🍀💃🏻🌟
Wow, wow, downloaded it- it will take several listening sessions- and I’m reasonably fluent! So wise, so wise. Thank you
Lovely to hear Melanie's South African accent and so delighted to hear your discussion about ancestors. Traditional African and Khoisan cultures are deeply respectful of their family past. I am busy doing a large zodiac painting which includes my mother, maternal grandmother and paternal great grandmother. On a high after listening to your beautiful wisdom. 🙏🕊️😊💖🙏
Amazing, your ancestral painting - thanks for sharing.
Just wonderful. Thank you to both of you. Chiron opposed my natal Saturn when COVID affected my heart and cut through life-long defences. Your explanations make so much sense. 😊🙏💖🕊️
What a lovely and beautiful chat, thank you ladies. I would like to add, I agree that men do go though menopause, however, personally it’s a beautiful thing, if one follows one’s intuition, I would also go as far as to say, it’s a maturity and greater inerstanding, sadly many don’t embrace that part of life. Love & Blessings to all. ❤
I find that words do not convey how grateful I’m sure we all are to both of you for sharing this knowledge. I feel in my heart that what you say resonates completely. Your giving it a deeper meaning really helps me on my own journey. 💖💖🙏🙏
Much gratitude ladies/siStars for such an exquisite conversation that resonated on so many levels. After having gone through a deep trauma 4 years ago, stacked with others on top, and having no option but to process, witness, and hold space by myself, I greatly appreciated what Melanie mentioned regarding the various healing processes that stand out of time, somewhat regulated by powers much greater than ourselves.
Best wishes to you ❤️
Truly appreciate this conversation! Thank you, Melanie and Heather. Blessings 🙏
You are amazing....thanks alot....Bits and piecees fell into space...🎶🐦⬛🌻♥️
Oh, thank you. What an exquisite conversation, Heather and Melanie. It resonated with me so deeply. You both have language and voices that traverse the realms beyond linear time and express the inexpressible, the mystery, of these beautiful Centaurs. I loved it all, was very struck by your sense of 'mending', Melanie, that feels so true of this time. And when you spoke at the outset of what you're drawn to research, Melanie, I was reminded of the aside Bessel van der Kolk makes in 'The Body Keeps the Score', quoting his colleague Beatrice Beebe: 'most research is me-search'. Many thanks for your great wisdom, we are so lucky to be able to listen to you converse, which feels deeply healing in itself.❤🙏
Thank you, Jane, for these great connections and insights!
So so grateful to you, both ❤ so empowering and hopeful
Gratitude for all the wonderful, healing interviews Heather and thank you Melanie for your wisdom. You are so thorough and effective to the understanding out condition. I think we all have stories from back in 1977. I left home because of disappointments and got married and remember the breakdown that overwhelmed me, but I had no other way/survival. Chiron has become the Rainbow Bridge between the Inner and Outer Planets in my healing as Chiron transits and has now come full circled. Brings up the idea of the Chakra system of our very being that is infused at birth the freuency of the lessons we need. A healing approach to our journey. Now with the knowledge of our dna/amino acids and the shift we aare in to the opening of the multi dimensions through our complete healing and the tools we need to find the freedom that Uranus offers. This is a beautiful New Moon season... wow Leo!
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights! Blessings to you.
Thank you to you two wise women. What a beautiful conversation.
My beautiful
Lady Heather💕🩷💕&
Lady Melanie 💕🩷💕
I wish I can convey what I am experiencing; at this point in time.
Ive been taking a pilgrimage journey in my life/soul.
It’s so intense.
😢. YES!!!
You, just have to trust and have full faith 🩵🙏💙🙏
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us on this deep topic.
Such a beautiful conversation. There is such warmth and validation. Thank you so much.
Melanie was one of my tutors at the Centre for Psychological Astrology over 25 years ago. It’s amazing to have the privilege of her wisdom still. Thank you both
Thank you for sharing this!
I love the inclusion of the ancestral thread which is something I observe every day in gratitude and with invocation of blessings. I have noticed that the charts in my birth family and my present family, as well as others' families I have been part of, show relationships and patterns. Energy is inscribed in flesh, as in light, as in the cosmos. We are all a part of Indra's Net, reflecting the same whole, but from different angles, immersed in different neighborhoods and families. The centaurs evoke Saggittarius, as well, pointing us towatd that center of our galaxy, the place for grounding our light bodies in this galaxy, as the center of the Earth is where we ground in our physical Earth bodies.
Thank you for sharing this with us! Blessings to you.
🌺🌈🌻Thank you Heather and Melanie for speaking about the soul and the spirit’s reaction to the chaos and challenges of the world in early and mid-life crisis. I do appreciate how your personal connection, deep empathic wisdom sparks your research Melanie and informs your insights and contributions in your conversations like this one with Heather and in your books. You both have a great integrity and compassion for our biology transitions, spiritual awakenings, ancestral healings, rebalancing the sacred masculine and feminine and understanding of humankind’s missteps in past linear research while trying to find new links to the invisible or in-between world. Thanks to the depth in your work and exploration in this conversation moving back and forth into the earth’s cosmic evolutionary astrological histories, it certainly helps us to understand that each life journey continues and each soul awakens independently to Source energies as part of the cosmic collective Consciousness. It’s not a straight time line but being helped now by Mars, the Sun, Leo and activated by calling on our ancestors for help and by embracing the energies of Chiron & Chariclo’s soul growth opening our hearts. ❤💫🪐🌙✨🌟I loved learning about Chariclo in the sacred space where the opposites of Saturn and Uranus meet. ❤❤️🩹❤️🔥💔💖
Thank you, Claudia, for sharing your feedback and your own wisdom with us! Blessings to you.
Thank you Heather and Melanie for your wisdom and insights on Chericlo, helping me to hold space in equinimity for my own healing journey and of my ancestors. Rich and textured conversation. Blessings 🙏🏽 💙
"My own willingness to sit with my own process - and that includes struggling with it, wanting it to go away - that commitment to the Soul life and the Inner journey - that itself is in a resonant field with any ancestors who might be resonating with things of my journey, as thermes run in families" - hearing this profound comment at this time in my own process has given me so much inspiration, hope and gratitude. Truly a lightbulb moment. Thank you Heather and Melanie for such a beautiful and soulful exchange, and reminding us of the magic, miracle and mystery of existence 🙏💚💫🌀✨💙
What a wonderful interview! Melonie brings alive and with deep understanding of Kiron and his wife… This is the type of interview that deserves a second listening to obtain much of the shared wisdom. Thank you Heather and Melonie. Peace!
Thank for being there, Sonia ...
❤🙏
My phone rolled out of bed this morning (as I fell asleep the night before listening to something on RUclips) and started playing the new moon update from Heather. This was the first time I have ever heard of her. I listened for the first few minutes without picking my phone up, immediately drawn by her gentle way of speaking with so much knowing and wisdom flowing. I finished watching the rest of it, and have been feeling into it the whole day. I opened youtube again about an hour ago, and saw this video - drawn to Melanie’s full name because it sounded South-African, and I’m from SA.
These are the elders and crones we are calling forth. And we’re listening.
The blessing and confirmations I’ve received because of these two women today I am eternally grateful for. Thank you ❤️
Thank you for sharing this -- and I am glad that your spirit guides helped you to connect with this community!
Thanks Genevieve - Born in Zimbabwe but went to UCT -:)
As a male I can say that I am going through the male menopause even at 55....
Thank you for such revealing and nourishing pointers🙏🏾🙏🏾🌞🌀
Gosh, that was fascinating! Thank you for bringing this information to us. I also really appreciate the confluence of your energies, the calm manner with which you integrate your wisdom and attentively listen to one another. Truly pleasurable to have such a stimulating, thought provoking atrological aspects explored with such compassion and sagacity. Balm.🙏
Beautiful
Wow what beautiful timing! I’ve just been rewatching your past interviews. So happy to learn more from you two. It’s truly been life changing to hear your conversations.
And you answered so many questions I’ve had particularly around menopause and Chiron return.
Thank you for your feedback and support. Blessings to you.
I love Melanie's opening comment about the need to have a direct feeling or relationship with something before deepening the learning. This is validation for myself, I do not have mercury retrograde in my chart, but this resonates.
Incorporation of what was, rather than destruction, as the agency of Saturn and Uranus is so powerful. The "crucial edge" of Chiron at the edge of the boundary, God of the in-between, Uranus as a clear space of the unknowable future - what a beautiful picture. Calling in healing awareness around how we try and control our future vision with anxiety-based structures.
Understanding that transitional times are a reactivation/integration space for healing (menopause) with its own timing and logic that sometimes syncs with our clock time but has its own unfolding...tuning into the invisible yin qualities of Chariclo as the lodestone emanation of that consciousness (clues to how it functions in the healing process) is so instructive! Holding the capacity to feel seen, held and heard is where I have been focusing my energies in my own life. I feel I have always occupied this role, but this has been a wound rather than a strength, now I am beginning to tap into the deep power in this act.
I love the understanding that the ancestral healing wisdom naturally unfolds in those transitional spaces between the living and the dead and this is part of the new earth. Our willingness to sit with the uncomfortable parts of our process and inner journey is our connection point with ancestral resonance - the thread that will resonate back and into the future.
The "raw effects" of the astronomy speaking on a symbolic level is such a gem of insight that I will be holding with me from here on out. I don't know about others but I have been feeling such a shift in the quality and malleability of time.
Thank you Heather and Melanie for sharing. I truly look forward to these wise and wonderful talks!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights. Blessings to you.
What a gift M. R. is!! Helping me see that in this lifetime I was an early awakener (and a late blossomer).
Beautiful wise woman
Thank you for bringing her to your channel
There is so much in this interview of which I am grateful, thank you!
As an example, I loved how she saw the boundary of Capricorn 30° and Aquarius 1° as an expression of the Chiron archetype. As you mentioned, Chiron has indeed been very present in 2023 and 2024 while Pluto straddles such a boundary; even being exactly conjunct the new moon at the April 8 solar eclipse! I also gained a huge appreciation for Chariklo, who in myth was not a centaur but a nymph, and which I will now begin to incorporate in my astrology.
This is another video that my psyche will ruminate for days to come. Thank you again. 🙏
Thank you Heather for all the wonderful awakening inspiring healing conversations your are bringing to us , it’s the only way to bring inner peace to ourselves and then to bring peace to the all world 🙏🙌❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹💞💞💞☯️☯️☯️☮️☮️☮️
Thank you for your feedback! Blessings to you!
This was so profound Heather and Melanie, really loved and found super powerful in understanding the centaurs so well ❤☄️✨️
Yay, my two favourite Elder women🙏 I look forward to listening in. Chiron is sooo strong in my chart, 9th house in 23+ Taurus, which transiting Uranus is now on, it is incredible what it's all bringing up, not all easy but absolutely insightful and creatively life transforming. 🙏♥
You are both amazing
And a gift to my hearts longing for belonging and sharing with purpose and love this precious human existence. Please return soon with your wisdom nectar
This is epic, such a great conversation thank you Heather and Melanie, sparked so many golden threads of inspiration to follow.... 🙂
Fascinating! ❤love this‼️ makes so much sense 🌏 🙏🏻
Thank you both and Yes, please, do talk for hours and permit us to listen in 🤩
Very enlightening and helpful!
Much love to ALL 🙏🏻💖 💫
I so love this wise women dialogue♥️
Your Stellar Hearts are a Lighthouse for these times🌟 40:09 and yes, we must greet our ‘witness’ with open ease and innate wisdom of what is seen and not-seen✨🦋✨
All is connected
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Thank you
Thank you both so much for such an interesting and enlightening interview. You really are paying the way for our continuing awakening. Bless you both Heather and Melanie ❤❤
Thank you ! What wonderful talks of things that matter- 🥰
I love how Melanie tells stories and explains things. Thank you for the video
What a beautiful conversation thank you heather and Melanie. 🙏🏼♥️
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I so love to hear from wise women🥰🙏🏼♥️Thank you, Heather🙏🏼🌈♐️♏️
Another Valuable, beautiful discussion …. Thank you…. And yes Dr Daniel Foor’s work is very very good….I look forward to further discussions with Melanie ❤❤❤
Wow 12.50 so needed to hear this right now thank you both! Massive "in between" place in my life with my daughter having recently moved out of home along with other factors, I'm currently exactly on my Chiron return at 23 degrees Aries (6th house)... still more to listen to and am wanting to learn more about Chariklo and how I can tune into her energy as she sits in exact natal conjunction to my Sun at 11 degrees Aries, I'm sure she has gifts to help me through 🧜♀💖✨
❤yay! Thank you Heather & Melanie!!
Please do regular conversations about whatever feels relevant. I love listening to you together!❤
Listening to Melanie is like listening to astrological poetry. I always learn something new and very profound, (for example, Chronos AND Chiros!) and it’s always such a pleasure. Thank you both so much!
And yeah, would be great to hear more about it!
I love you both so much. Thank you each for being you. 😍❤
Wow i have received so much understanding from this conversation 🙏💚thank you x
Thanks Melanie and Heather. This conversation is a real gift and a teaching of how to care for the soul.
Sooo timely mamas! I appreciate you both greatly. Literally have been diving into my Chiron in Taurus.. which is my ninth house and houses my sun, mercury, Venus and mars! Sheesh. Thankful for all this affirmation. ❤❤❤
Thank you lovely ladies for your wisdom ❤
I've been waiting for you two to converse again... here goes..
Thank you ❤ love this conversation, the process of evolution 😊
Thank you for both of you sharing your wonderful wisdom and great love. I am a astrologer and shamanic healer, and this year is my Chiron return, and I just realized the transiting North Node is right on my natal Chariko conjunct my IC while listening this interview, realizing wow, what a synchronicity that speaks so loud to me about the new understanding of the wise woman spiritual work and healing work I do all these years. I mean it all make sense to a new level. Maybe my chariclo quality is also about the collective future. Also, with my natal Chiron in the 4th, I truly love those inspirations about the ancestral work Melanie has shared. I am from Taiwan, I used to attend to Melanie's workshops here around 2012. Now I am deeply grateful to have your wisdom to guide me during this time of my own chiron return time. I love you both as my fav female astrology teachers. Blessings and Love to you both great wise woman ❤
fantastic thx for sharing!!!!
Two of my favourite astrologers and healers and wayshowers
what a treat thank you and bless you both ❤
Greetings! Love listening and learning from you two🙏🏼♥️♥️
I feel this
Yes resonate 💯💯💯, Big Namaste 🌹🙏🌹☮️☮️☮️
me too!, merc retrograde in the 8th…, Wild and oh so good
thanks for a fabulous interview 😊
wonderful...thank you both xx
Beautiful! Thank you so much. I really needed to hear this conversation today. ❤
🙏We just need to listen.
God whispers, my friends. 🤫
I love this conversation... listening again & again
Heather, in this conversation, you reminded me of the Sphinx, enigmatic, wise, the witness; and Melanie was the quicksilver moonbeam slowly sweeping her hypnotic light hither and thither...and the two of you, such Cosmic Sisters, radiant with your magnificent gifts of serene, symbolic offerings...like a magnificent banquet. Thank you so much! Much love and gratitude!❤ (PS I secretly think of you as Chariklo...🤩)
I love y’all 🤎.
Wow. Incredibly beautiful talk❤❤❤ Please do more of these!! Such depth 🌊
Wonderful insights to reflect upon. I love the ideas of Chariclo providing a Yin space to allow healing to take place & bearing witness to the process. I feel that many of us are in this situation, in relation to global events, where we cannot take actions to directly effect change, & all we can do is to bear witness. There is a form of Tui Na - Traditional Chinese Massage - which is Yin - providing gentle support - holding the body to give permission to the person to feel safe & a space for spontaneous healing to take place without intervention. Dr Janice Hadlock, a Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor based in the USA, has written about her practice of Yin Tui Na.
Thank you both so very much! I had thought that our healing, and when doing my work on others, I’ve seen through mediumship that the ancestors are invested in each healing. Love this validation ❤
🙏❤ please do continue. It made me realise more... made remember Danie Foor...
thank you both✨️
Chiron is conjunct Saturn and both sit upon my asc in Pisces. 1st House side Oh Joy
Oh thank you endlessly!!!
Ancestral healing
Dear Heather and Melanie, there is something I am not clear about. To my understanding, Chiron, while (mainly in Aquarius) orbited between Uranus and Neptune. I feel it collected information about our flawed ideals as well as pointed to where we are short of Aquarian principles. Somewhere between 2006 and 2010. Then, it crossed over to continue its orbit between Saturn and Uranus while in Pisces, 2011-2018 bringing back all that info, but since it is so far from the Sun and especially because it was in Pisces, it was very difficult to get a conscious vision of it. Then it went into Aries, where we start anew, but because Chiron is an agent with a paralysing effect this resulted in an additional difficulty to heal. That is maybe the reason behind the fact that there has been such a proliferation of methods of healing all over the world. We know we are sick, we know there is an infinite number of ways to get better and yet we are paralysed. Chiron is faring so so so far from the center, trying to deal with collective ailments and we as individual are left with swimming, drifting along with Saturn in Pisces, feeling lost and powerless. Does this resonate with you at all?
Thank you for sharing these thoughts and questions, and perhaps Melanie will respond and provide more information and wisdom in response. My understanding is that Chiron never crosses over the orbit of Uranus (though it gets close to it), so it doesn't orbit between Uranus and Neptune but rather between Saturn's orbit and Uranus' orbit. I also do not see Chiron as "an agent with a paralysing effect." I view transits with Chiron (in whatever sign it is in) as bringing active, healing energy to that sign and to the house and aspects that it activates in our own charts. I do see the expansion of our exploration of holistic and energy ways of healing as being catalyzed by Chiron's discovery in 1977 and its ongoing influence in our lives individually and collectively.
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Movement. Being. Expression ♨️
Thank you for this ! I have been curious about nessus for a long time. Is conjunct my moon in 13 gemini , 11th house 😊
thank you ❤
Organic ❤
I’m really resonating with in between world❤
🎼🌹🎼Thank You
always fascinating. I call my shadow psychic ancestry book 'the book I'm not writing' over the past 10 years - with mandalas - maybe the 'timing' has never been right for it - praps now??
Thank you for this beautiful conversation . I wonder if you have ever looked at, or had direct experience of how the horse has and is facilitating people opening up to other dimensions, and self knowledge? I am not talking about sport or competition.
Yes, I think horses are highly sensitive and psychic animals and guide us in opening up to those intuitive and sensitive aspects of ourselves.
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When will Chiron break through the Saturn defense orbit?
Chiron cycle is 50 years or so? I'm at 3/4 closing square Chiron cycle. Chiron in Cancer. Am 34
Forestgardening and reading energy
Yes, the Chiron return is at age 50.
And there are men who show their dark side after 20 years. Unbelievable. Double life’ in our home while I slept.
Hello, I’m one of those who don’t what it’ll take to get past that in between, yet