The new MMR system has broken Herald

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  • Опубликовано: 26 май 2023
  • In this video from Jenkins' stream, he watches his first Herald game on Dota 2's latest update, patch 7.33. Somehow, this patch made Herald even more insane (thanks Glicko).
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Комментарии • 323

  • @serious6037
    @serious6037 Год назад +111

    Bro that lich reply ' Make her happy pls' is NEXT LEVEL.

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 8 месяцев назад

      Trashtalk without a dignity

  • @user-cf6jn1mj7m
    @user-cf6jn1mj7m Год назад +97

    This is one of the most best herald reviews ever. It got everything: heroes not picking neutral item tokens, sick outplays on both teams, great base defense, ability abuse, and even trash talks. Complete package!

    • @cyberpsykoh6686
      @cyberpsykoh6686 Год назад +2

      MOST, BEST, EVER in once sentence. DAMN.

    • @moritzbierdimpfl7233
      @moritzbierdimpfl7233 10 месяцев назад +2

      IT MOST CERTENLY IS ONE OF THE HERAL REVIEWS OF ALL TIME

    • @Nizav-qu5zt
      @Nizav-qu5zt 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nope, it has bad guys

    • @Nizav-qu5zt
      @Nizav-qu5zt 6 месяцев назад

      Even then, last minute they werent even leaving fountain

  • @duxxck
    @duxxck Год назад +312

    Loved that deny of techies jump by sb bash at 10:51

  • @saltiney8578
    @saltiney8578 Год назад +370

    they get to have fun by destroying the enemy team for two hours, and then they get to have fun again by trolling their own team by throwing the match, they are bad guys

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад

      His profile id 180082877

    • @kholi9441
      @kholi9441 Год назад +23

      Certified bad guys

    • @kooroshrostami27
      @kooroshrostami27 Год назад +37

      Probably weak minds who can't cope with the pressure of playing in their own rank, so they beat up newbies to feel better about themselves.

    • @TheArcturusProject
      @TheArcturusProject Год назад +15

      exactly. they clown on the enemy team, then let their team lose, so they dont leave this mmr

    • @plangiQQ
      @plangiQQ 10 месяцев назад +1

      reeealll bad mann

  • @boi7933
    @boi7933 Год назад +260

    that seeker is definitely an old player, I remember doing that rupture + force + dagon back in dota 1

    • @MikeMessiah
      @MikeMessiah Год назад +38

      year, rupture back then was more painfull but lasted for 5-6 secs

    • @khanaadil6446
      @khanaadil6446 Год назад +41

      And force staff used to interrupt tp

    • @phunweng962
      @phunweng962 Год назад +3

      yeah I remember I spam that build like 10 years ago

    • @pinkpidgeon6926
      @pinkpidgeon6926 Год назад +2

      @@khanaadil6446 and compenent were much better for bloodseeker.

    • @DimasAgung08
      @DimasAgung08 Год назад +2

      @@pinkpidgeon6926 u guys are right. an old days of dota ahhaah

  • @Randoman590
    @Randoman590 Год назад +115

    That Pango's behaviour is actually disgusting. Condemn him to a year of low prio pls

    • @randomstuff2097
      @randomstuff2097 Год назад +4

      filthy smurf trashtalking

    • @Thesinistereyes1
      @Thesinistereyes1 Год назад

      being in Herald is low prio by default. What they need to do is boost his mmr gain by a lot 1k mmr per win till he makes it to his level before you know it smurfs are not smurfing anymore

    • @emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
      @emmanuelwilliamquinton9152 Год назад +10

      ​@@Thesinistereyes1that wouldn't work he is losing on purpose. Just ban him.

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад

      Lol who are you to decide who deserves lp cry sad jerk

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад +9

      That pangoliers profile id is 112064850 and their whole guild is a family tree of smurfs 😂

  • @terezaradvanova291
    @terezaradvanova291 Год назад +60

    Considering so many people got out of herald thanks to this new patch, that makes it even more of a hellhole than before

    • @NomadUrpagi
      @NomadUrpagi Год назад +2

      Yeah my herald coworker got calibrated at crusader 2

  • @victorpresti
    @victorpresti Год назад +68

    This is obviously a derank situation. Pretty common in DotA and LoL. People smurf, beat low-ranked people with some heroes and then purposely lose later on different heroes just to keep a big win streak and playing versus noobies.

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад +2

      How do u know so many things you must be a smurf as well

    • @victorpresti
      @victorpresti Год назад +23

      @@voodoo192 It's common knowledge if you been around for a long time?

    • @itsprod.472
      @itsprod.472 Год назад

      @@victorprestiyup and when that happens I make sure to just go for throne if i mange to win a 4v5 😂

    • @uhm7293
      @uhm7293 Год назад +4

      @@voodoo192yep. If you think about it. If you are a smurf, there are only two ways to not rank up: play hero’s you are still learning so you don’t just outclass everyone. Or lose on purpose so your talent levels don’t result in ranking up to a more accurate MMR

    • @kooroshrostami27
      @kooroshrostami27 Год назад

      Incredible how pathetic people are. Why do you do this? What kind of gratification do you get from this? It must be some kind of delusion. If you're somewhat aware, you know that smurfing in Herald exposes you as beyond pathetic because obviously you cannot handle your own MMR and feel the need to beat up worse players?

  • @adamhercik581
    @adamhercik581 Год назад +320

    So they played for almost two hours to then just afk in the fountain and let them win?

    • @Smoneey
      @Smoneey Год назад +195

      That’s how smurfs stay low ranked. They have fun fucking with worse players the whole game then let them win for the -mmr

    • @Smoneey
      @Smoneey Год назад +111

      @@dopaminejunkyGG Bro’s mad he read the comments instead of watching the video. You really care so much about the outcome of a herald game?

    • @dopaminejunkyGG
      @dopaminejunkyGG Год назад +1

      @@SmoneeyAlways one of you idiots... I watch RUclips on my phone. In the app dev's infinite wisdom, the algorithm's "top comment" is displayed front and center screen immediately after clicking on the video. If one is not consciously thinking to not look at the comment, it is very easy to subconsciously read it immediately, which is what happened here.
      It is clearly bot comment, and I'm sick of having videos spoiled in this way. If it is a human, quit making asinine comments that literally just say what happens in the video and offer nothing else substantive

    • @eXponentia
      @eXponentia Год назад +23

      They're smurfing and don't want to win.

    • @SneakoV2
      @SneakoV2 Год назад +1

      @@Smoneey LMAOO

  • @randomguy2108
    @randomguy2108 Год назад +66

    Boosting accounts just want a lose so that they don't seem that suspicious. Purposely extending and losing the game, this is disgusting. Report pango and kotol.

    • @randomguy2108
      @randomguy2108 Год назад +27

      it actually shocks me how they are not banned, I once helped my friend in Herald to play a few games because he said his teammates suck and he can never win. I am not that good only legend, but I proceeded to completely own 2 games with bristle and he got a one year ban the next day. How was Valve so fast that time and not when its people like these I have no clue.

    • @SneakoV2
      @SneakoV2 Год назад

      that ith dithguthting 🤓🤓

    • @kooroshrostami27
      @kooroshrostami27 Год назад

      rapport kotol he no giff me mana no feed me mango. Rapport kotol pidaras!

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад +1

      Did you say disgusting 😂
      Check this herald match 7249545515 and let me know what's the most disturbing thing in your life

    • @Bollibompa
      @Bollibompa Год назад +2

      ​@@randomguy2108
      Erhm, what? That does not sound true. Why would he get a year ban for that?

  • @thefather509
    @thefather509 Год назад +194

    You know it's a good day when Jenkins uploads a new video ❤

  • @TankNSSpank
    @TankNSSpank Год назад +9

    Does jenkins realize this channel could get really huge if he pays some attention to it. It's fucking diamond quality content

  • @LucklessLex
    @LucklessLex Год назад +36

    I absolutely love this lich.

  • @hvermilion23kx
    @hvermilion23kx Год назад +51

    this is much more entertaining than most of my solo que pubs lmao

  • @AbsoluteCroissant
    @AbsoluteCroissant Год назад +7

    Been far too long since I've had my Jenkins fix

  • @-dimzy-1857
    @-dimzy-1857 Год назад +27

    I left my job just to watch this replay as soon as possible and is worth it

  • @duxxck
    @duxxck Год назад +48

    Without having the time to see the video I have to agree with the title. As a herald/low guardian player since 2013 I've been amazed at the uneven:ness of the rank currently. Most games got 60 -10 or 10 - 60.

    • @vgamedude12
      @vgamedude12 Год назад +9

      They don't care about experience of normal people they only balance and make the game for pro players aka the .000001 percent.

    • @samuelelliott8453
      @samuelelliott8453 Год назад +12

      ​@@vgamedude12 the experience of normal people is so inconsistent. How can they balance people coming back from a 2 year hiatus that know lots of mechanics/tricks but don't know the heroes? Or vice versa?

    • @merrbino
      @merrbino Год назад +6

      ​@Samuel Elliott ban every herald sniper main who does all pick for role queue but plays hard support sniper 😂

    • @samuelelliott8453
      @samuelelliott8453 Год назад

      @@merrbino lmaooo you're right actually that would fix it 😂😂

    • @goaway7904
      @goaway7904 Год назад

      @@vgamedude12 you are a noob

  • @andrewvelez5171
    @andrewvelez5171 Год назад +1

    That bloodseeker was just classic dota1 player, back when rapture hurts a lot when you forcestaff someone then dagon for the finishing

  • @lordofuwus7735
    @lordofuwus7735 Год назад +28

    This herald game had more plot twist than attack on titan

  • @lamMeTV
    @lamMeTV Год назад +6

    Jenkins with drawal is real I dont want to wait so long between videos

  • @mrscrappz1063
    @mrscrappz1063 Год назад +5

    I lived most of my dota life in 200 to 1k MMR, trust me when I say that the AA intentionally AFK'd in the end out of spite for his team.
    Almost as a way of saying to his teammates "You'll only win if I feel like you deserve it". Notice how he said nothing the whole game in chat?
    Buddy is probably on perma mute for having a low behavioral score because of emotional antics like this.

  • @kingsalver
    @kingsalver Год назад +36

    Love the herald review mate
    (new player quite fun playing the game)

  • @bBleedingMoon
    @bBleedingMoon Год назад +3

    force staff on bloodseeker reminds me of 2000's meta...

  • @alphardjackyana7444
    @alphardjackyana7444 Год назад +6

    i think kotl, aa and pango are a smurf party... techies and bloodseeker were shit talking them in allies chat, so they didnt help push lol i think thats the most likely situation thats why they ended up throwing the game

    • @Micheldied
      @Micheldied Год назад +1

      They were always going to throw the game. Smurfs are afraid of playing against people they can't beat, so they lose low skill games on purpose so they can keep trashing low skill players without needing to actually win.

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад

      ​@@Micheldiedthey just want to look good in their profile by having 100 percent winrate on all 3 heroes with streak of 50-80

  • @RealAnalysisLA
    @RealAnalysisLA Год назад +1

    Love videos. if you get 1440p im sure sure you'd get +20% views. 1080p compression via youtube is so brutal

  • @sekki8425
    @sekki8425 Год назад +3

    I actually didn't expect that plot twist at the end

    • @AhMaR1993
      @AhMaR1993 Год назад +3

      that's how smurfs stay low rank. They own the game and let opponents win the game

    • @BlueGlue1
      @BlueGlue1 Год назад

      you mean the fart ?

  • @r.pizzamonkey7379
    @r.pizzamonkey7379 Год назад +2

    Lich is indeed a god at shit-talking, he's being so savage while still having fun with it XD

  • @kochawskyalex8414
    @kochawskyalex8414 Год назад +1

    2:18 no way thats herald!

  • @animespectra3791
    @animespectra3791 Год назад +1

    The amount of tension in this match 💀

  • @trentkopp49
    @trentkopp49 Год назад +46

    Valve should create a purgatory for smurfs where instead of getting queued into a ranked game they get sent to a custom game against 5 divine or above players with only bots as teammates.

    • @vijayravi56
      @vijayravi56 Год назад +20

      Wonder how much the divine players will appreciate you’re suggestion.

    • @emmanuelwilliamquinton9152
      @emmanuelwilliamquinton9152 Год назад +3

      I have a better one for you. They all into a Smurf lobby but then they get glitches, unbalance (one player start with 2k gold, one player damage is reduced by 30%, kill always go to someone else) and it alternates so get shitted on by other Smurf every other game.

    • @Micheldied
      @Micheldied Год назад +3

      I think they should just ban them instead of wasting other people's times.

    • @Tin9102
      @Tin9102 Год назад +2

      the problem here is with determining who is smurf

    • @voodoo192
      @voodoo192 Год назад +1

      You mean to say derankers vs derankers where neither team wants to win then all they have to do is wait for the creeps to end it either way winning the game 😂

  • @NoNTr1v1aL
    @NoNTr1v1aL Год назад +2

    2:47 I think that was calculated by Lich.

  • @jeronewhoelse4469
    @jeronewhoelse4469 Год назад

    Been waiting so long for this!

  • @didiksudidik
    @didiksudidik Год назад

    did anyone know how jenkins got the match for herald review? some kind of form maybe?

  • @m0rthaus
    @m0rthaus 11 месяцев назад +5

    My theory: they don't want to win and gain MMR so they can keep smurfing. They get to throw the game and annoy their team AND troll the enemy team all game. Nasty people.

  • @bomragona1078
    @bomragona1078 Год назад

    the ending was not... exactly what i was expecting

  • @terminatorgir
    @terminatorgir Год назад +1

    My friend literally was herald 1 and calibrated after the patch to crusader 4

  • @juniorponou
    @juniorponou 8 месяцев назад

    10:49
    Techies : Here we go !!
    SB: get the hell outta here ! ☠️💀

  • @franciscopen1681
    @franciscopen1681 Год назад

    The all chat was hilarious 😂

  • @SaltedCoffee400
    @SaltedCoffee400 Год назад

    Great vid love your herald reviews, but wtf is going on with the resolution with this one.

  • @genaralrainimator4797
    @genaralrainimator4797 Год назад +1

    when you combine herald and sea server

  • @OrangeFreeman
    @OrangeFreeman Год назад

    That pango indeed caught me crying

  • @sysnico8691
    @sysnico8691 Год назад

    Expecting a W video
    Love you Jenkins ❤

  • @dominicanfrankster
    @dominicanfrankster 10 месяцев назад

    lmao- that ending

  • @user-eq4tn5xf5i
    @user-eq4tn5xf5i 9 месяцев назад

    I'd appreciate silly town music playing on a background when you review stuff like this

  • @Youmu_Konpaku_
    @Youmu_Konpaku_ Год назад

    That ending

  • @perrysec
    @perrysec Месяц назад

    I remember those painfull 1h+ herald dotas...

  • @MrQhuin
    @MrQhuin Год назад

    you know it's a fckup game if Jenkins uploads it.

  • @saitan_skrrt61
    @saitan_skrrt61 Год назад

    What the hell happened at the end😂

  • @SgtDahaka
    @SgtDahaka Год назад

    Force staff ruptured enemies. I used to do that in 2012

  • @slahser
    @slahser Год назад

    "make her happy please' sent me 😂

  • @kungszigfrids1482
    @kungszigfrids1482 Год назад +1

    Being a 6k player whos typically in party with a 7k one Ive not seen smurfs in a long time. Actually I often see reverse smurfs with players giving their high mmr smurfs to their friends to they can play together.

  • @susmitamallick2777
    @susmitamallick2777 Год назад

    That was a satisfying victory

  • @Leavezz
    @Leavezz Год назад

    Yessir finally new vid

  • @user-tq6pr1vm3w
    @user-tq6pr1vm3w Год назад

    The force staff on bs is from dota 1 in the begging when they realeased force staff it was a thing .

  • @EthVortexShield
    @EthVortexShield Год назад

    There was a crystal maiden in this game

  • @MrCguy24
    @MrCguy24 Год назад +1

    lc didnt use press the attack once

  • @iruga7379
    @iruga7379 Год назад

    Lich made me laugh so much...ty Lich whoever you are.

  • @tirsolouisegaccion4419
    @tirsolouisegaccion4419 Год назад

    This made my day

  • @yashal3805
    @yashal3805 Год назад +3

    They want to smurf mate they don't need no mmr

  • @KnightGunny
    @KnightGunny Год назад

    10:26 bro playing yugioh with that mirror shield

  • @sanderjil3244
    @sanderjil3244 Год назад

    Jenkins the Jerking the Cocklings ROFL:)

  • @jldionido8014
    @jldionido8014 Год назад

    here we go!

  • @RATGODORIGINAL
    @RATGODORIGINAL Год назад +1

    Bara still doesnt know neutral items exist

  • @tashisherpa7747
    @tashisherpa7747 Год назад +1

    I played the game after 4yrs and yes this afk are common late game idk why this pure heralds.... They just either stay inside the fountain or stand beside the base and completely ignore the creeps.... or 1v5 somewhere with 34 death
    but Idk if they are actually afk or just watching other's play, ignoring their own situation... because as everyone is random with language barriers you can understand some words and I realized when they said tank and laughing as I did 1v4 and escaped after killing 2 inside 3rd tower with critical hp. They were at mid taking tower hits and yes completely afk

  • @UnSubscribe44
    @UnSubscribe44 Год назад +1

    I was herald 3 with 2k behavior score...I lost mmr as i lost behavior score until the new patch. Im so thankful ahahah now being archon 1 with 10k behavior score...moral of the story dont get low behavior score and low mmr that sir is worse than LP

  • @7azDingo
    @7azDingo Год назад

    didnt know they have a lc til 7min of the video lol

  • @okdillon
    @okdillon Год назад

    can you please do a herald review with mira

  • @kungszigfrids1482
    @kungszigfrids1482 Год назад +1

    Force staff rupture is good when its 2 supports buying force staff.

  • @EpiphanicC
    @EpiphanicC Год назад

    "wow they must be brothers"

  • @uchihatsuyoshi1133
    @uchihatsuyoshi1133 Год назад

    Imagine a Herald review, but it's on SEA server.

  • @MrTuneslol
    @MrTuneslol Год назад

    Holy FUCK did you that that techers get bashed out of the air at 10:51? Jesus christ.
    I feel like Jenkins videos have some weird compression or bitrate issues. It always looks weirdly low quality despite having it on high settings. But it's more like artifacting than just straight up poorer quality, don't know enough about computers to know what I'm talking about but the quality is noticeably worse than it should be.
    Fucking great video as usual though lads

  • @papamoose13
    @papamoose13 Год назад

    I was actually rooting for that AA , I play him alot and he' SO great with that attack speed and an aghs. I would love for you to rate my gameplay. I FINALLY made it out of herald and I'm probably the oldest guy that plays this game. ( I will be 56 in Oct )

  • @arvinrelles8542
    @arvinrelles8542 Год назад +1

    I think they purposely didn't def to maintain herald mmr

  • @Wint9999
    @Wint9999 Год назад

    I wish i just stayed herald than divine I thought being in higher skill brackets is fun, it is fun but not like how heralds do it tbh
    they are free to choose any items they want, like some brackets you get yelled for experimenting shit if you are not rank 200 or up

  • @nakfyre9512
    @nakfyre9512 Год назад +9

    Was Guardian 5 last season. With Glicko I went up to Crusader 4. I though "Ok, this is gonna be great." 5 matches in a row someone just decides they are going to go my lane, or just go AFK and ignore the team.

    • @Interloper322
      @Interloper322 Год назад +2

      Any rank below legend is a cesspool.

    • @andrewnguyen4801
      @andrewnguyen4801 Год назад +2

      ​@@Interloper322 legend is still a cesspool

    • @MegaJackolope
      @MegaJackolope Год назад +3

      @@Interloper322 this game is the cesspool

    • @jaded-harper
      @jaded-harper 10 месяцев назад

      @@Interloper322 just wait until ur immortal and people still do the exact same shit lul

  • @ddenozor
    @ddenozor Год назад

    SB is the unsung hero of the Dire.

  • @loust1264
    @loust1264 Год назад

    istg i was archon 2 before this new mmr system came out, now i calibrated legend 4 like wtf, but after like 20 games calibration tho twas worth it

  • @ubilava9454
    @ubilava9454 Год назад

    I’m genuinely scared

  • @stepanvejvoda2725
    @stepanvejvoda2725 Год назад

    herald review!

  • @ImStevenJohnson
    @ImStevenJohnson Год назад +3

    catch me or Crying

  • @mysterious_alarm6044
    @mysterious_alarm6044 Год назад

    Hello Jenkins! I bought your TI sticker and everybody bullied me in game. What do i do now?

  • @LOPAZ0812
    @LOPAZ0812 Год назад

    @jenkins i justo realized You are the vocalista of The Strokes right? Xddddd

  • @meow3343
    @meow3343 Год назад +2

    Herald is like a chocolate,
    you don't know what you gonna get.

    • @DreamOnDamu
      @DreamOnDamu Год назад

      *box of chocolates

    • @ramb0jo314
      @ramb0jo314 Год назад

      I was a herald before they changed the mnr system, now im unranked playing with crusader 4s with a 12% placement confidence

  • @AliB333
    @AliB333 Год назад

    I've been out of DOTA for YEARS but I really enjoy it. People are just so shitty though. I think I might play a bit this weekend, but genuinely how do you get in to this game and be somewhat decent as a newbie without playing 20 hours a day?

  • @Joshua-lv9cj
    @Joshua-lv9cj Год назад

    Incredible game

  • @elibaumann9718
    @elibaumann9718 Год назад +1

    LC won her first duel at 45 minutes

  • @Interloper322
    @Interloper322 Год назад +1

    Ranked is nothing about skill these days. I am ancient and use Smurf account to play with my friends in guardian/crusader bracket and I met many good players that actually play better than the fuckers I see in legend and archon. Even my friend who is guardian 3 is a better support than my ancient games. Really doesn't make sense

  • @uchoasimracing
    @uchoasimracing Год назад +1

    i ranked up from 2k to 3.1 and i just realized that 2k bracket looks better players respect their roles while 3k players just pick random heroes and ruin the game

  • @MrRandomnese
    @MrRandomnese 10 месяцев назад

    Imagine being 64k behind in net worth and still winning. Amazing

  • @ArpitSharma-mc8nh
    @ArpitSharma-mc8nh Год назад +1

    I think they let the other team win, so they can stay and the same rank and smurf

  • @Hypermegaultrasuper
    @Hypermegaultrasuper Год назад +1

    Catch me or Crying 🗣️

  • @Show.NeverTell
    @Show.NeverTell 3 месяца назад

    Bloodseek dota 1 build, I know it coz I tried it when I playing dota 1 before😂

  • @alexx6408
    @alexx6408 Год назад +3

    pango wasn't playing to win he was playing to enjoy crushing heralds

  • @Delacrow_l_Chawngthu
    @Delacrow_l_Chawngthu Год назад

    Hate this new matchmaking system. Im on a 10 losing streak.. Constantly got teammates who are absolute trash, A core monkey king with pos5 pudge who somehow got completely trashed by ES and pugna, An offlane RK who cannot last hit to save his life (10 min only brown boot with belt of giant strength).. Mid who trash talk everyone but needed me to constantly gank his lane or he died even though its Tinker vs Juggernaut.

  • @ngursaibela3114
    @ngursaibela3114 Год назад

    True dota
    Having fun and a little bit of everything.

  • @irsyaadkenway
    @irsyaadkenway Год назад

    Herald now is filled with just animals I guess(used to be a bunch of animals)

  • @tharindushakya5329
    @tharindushakya5329 5 месяцев назад

    "I have children in my basement"💀 in the chat

  • @syedrehanfida
    @syedrehanfida Год назад +1

    with griefers like these, one can not get out of lower bracket mmr

  • @tcrzsppr3163
    @tcrzsppr3163 10 месяцев назад

    But can you really smurf from Guardian to Herald?

  • @jrbudoybudoy
    @jrbudoybudoy Год назад

    My god SEA dota trench what a game