Bad Gear - Roland TR-505 - Worst Digital Drum Machine Of All Time???
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this episode of Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools, we will talk about the probably least sought-after member of the Roland TR family, the Roland TR-505. Can we find some use for the static 12 bit samples of this 80s relic?
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I will never call LED lights LED's again after learning about Lauflicht. Thank you.
Lauflicht 4 Life ❤
505 is awesome, works so well in synth pop/industial/ebm/indie dance/syntn wave. i love the hats & snare
Well, mine has changed... ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
true!!! the best music for these drum machines is the soviet post punk music ! the vinyl tune acoustic with new twist ruclips.net/video/zntW_FPsWyg/видео.html&ab_channel=ZvezdaPolyn%27-Topic
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I know this video is old but the jam goes hard!!!
Sounds very joy division
I miss my little 505. Sold it cause everyone gave me flak about it being "Old sounding". Never will I bow to peer pressure. Now to hit EBay and find me another.
Do it! And mod it! ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
@@AudioPilz damn you and your charming German persuasion.
@@monkeyhammar thäts wot wee arr known forr
I'll never get over how good the production quality of your videos is.
Thanks!
If you see a 505 going cheap it’s a no-brainer, just buy it. Depending on your favourite genre it’s sounds are brilliant or terrible, but that’s not the point. Assuming the MIDI OUT port works, each of the 16 parts can be assigned its own MIDI note number AND its own MIDI channel. That makes it ripe for triggering external modules like the Novation Drumstation as well as units that are a PITA to program locally such as the Quasimidi 309. There’s more of interest to the 505 than first meets the eye, if it has a working MIDI OUT port of course. Mine does 😁
Mine is modded to F so I contemplate getting another one ;)
Good midi tip. Super easy to program too. Thanks!!!!!!
Exactly - I use this to trigger Samples of higher end samples in Battery 4 for example - plus the MIDI Drum Patterns are great as well and recordable via your MIDI OUT into your DAW.
Wait, can you explain further? You are using the TR 505 to trigger sounds from another module via midi 1-16 in the daw ? I have an mpc2500 but the damn thing does not allow for multitimbrality, I can only trigger one channel via daw (pad1-16 on the MPC midi channel 1 for example) So I wonder if somehow I could use this trick to turn it into a multitimbral module somehow since it does have several midi channels.
Back in '86, as a 16 year old, I befriended some buskers who were using a TR-505 with the note values of the majority of the pads mapped to play bass notes through MIDI on a DX100. Pet Shop Boys covers featuring sequenced drums and bass with digital effects pedals in the high street, powered by a car battery - I couldn't believe my young eyes and ears!
Cool technique!
Necessity I mean lack of gear is the Mother of Invention
I love how you actually used the drum machine in context with a song as part of your review. Tanks
Thanks, man. Glad to hear that
1:53 That dry kick is awesome for many styles.
A bit like the Linn kick.
Soft but punchy, not aggressive or boomy. I love it
I really like it a lot but after modding it sounds like a 909. It REALLY packs some punch now
@@AudioPilz Yeah ;) It's soft but very versatile.
Can be used for both pop and metal with some tweaking
Haha, this was a very enjoyable angle.
Look forward to the next "bad gear" review.
Thank you so much. Working on it!
Mr Ball!!!!
I hope that one day Rammstein actually makes a song called Lauflicht. Sounds pretty badass tbh
That would be an honor!
I have always loved the sound this machine makes. Classic 1980's and I own two of them.
You can't have enough of those 80s relics ;)
The haunting sound of 505 is really underrated. The drum machine for Joy Division if Ian never did suicide.
Agreed! Very close to the 707
It's amazing how musically talented you are on top of your superb video editing chops. You're a whole package.
That is very flattering. Thanks!
@@AudioPilz if you ever start making tutorials then i could really use and "how to make your drum machine sound more like rock drums" tutorial would be really nice, like version where you mostly use hardware instead of software and or maybe even "how to do industrial drums" tutorial. I personally have behringer 808 and only this week discovered how awesome it sounds with digital delay pedal after it.
Damn man, you make all the bad gear sound good and you can even sing! Thnx for these amazing videos, and definitely no autotune:)
Thank you!!!
I used it as a sequencer in the 90s it had a solid midi implementation I used it to drive my asrx pro.
True! Nice sequencer for electronic music. Don't forget to check out the modded version ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
It’s not bad gear, it’s bad users 😅
Sometimes it's both ;)
@@AudioPilz No, it's only ever bad users. Anyone with imagination can make use of any gear.
well id say its pretty bad feature that it sounds bad out of the box and have to use other gear to make it right but at least you can make it right
@@torontotonto6189 Thats the thing it doesn't sound bad out of the box. That's an exaggeration, i find that most people that have extreme opinions like this make shitty music or can't create at all.
@@kensmechanicalaffair its literally a mini 707 dont understand why the same people that praise the 707 hate the 505 sound wise
I love the TR-505 had two of them at one point. Kept the circuit bent one :P
Damn, still haven't started working on the circuit bending episode
I paid £200 for one in about 1988, the sounds were totally unsuitable for what I was into (House/Acid), the tempo knob was really difficult to get the exact BPM you needed, and even when you did the tempo would often drift a few BPM faster or slower. I don't miss it.
The tempo drift of the 505 is legendary
Actually the sounds are perfect for house and acid and the 707 which the 505 shares its sounds with was used on the first acid track. The problem is that the 505 has only stereo output. The kick is pretty weak without processing. I just use an expanded TR-8 for this sound now. I owned a 505 for years and it was good as a secondary drum machine to layer with another one (in my case it was the Electribe ER-1) and yeah the 505 can not be the master clock source it drifts like mad. I use an Alesis MMT-8 as my master clock source and while that seems to be 1 BPM faster than it should be its drift is only by a few points of a BPM which is great for a sequencer design from 1987.
@@DragonGrafx-16 The only track I ever heard that used this drum machine was Virgo - Do You Know Who You Are. The drums sound at odds with the rest of the track! ruclips.net/video/nKfnfXDAhN0/видео.html
@@NathanJayMusic The 505 has the same sounds as the 707 and 727 (not all but a mix of the two), it doesn't sound as good as you can't process any of the sounds separately Sure the 505 specifically might not have ever been used much for house but it's not a fault of the sounds themselves.
@@DragonGrafx-16 505 was used a lot
Hoffe, dass dein Kanal weiter wächst! Die Videos und das Editing sind immer einfach nur genial! Super stoked that I found your channel.
Danke!
Ngl, just bought one and it’s awesome!! Got the eprom package that emulates linn drum and a few others. It sounds so good paired with my Rhythm Wolf.
Cool, I need to get a more versatile eprom update too!
I love that you're combining the Alesis 3630 with the TR-505. Nothing like combining bad gear with bad gear.
I'm really impressed with not just the results of the sound but your musical sensibilities. Your style is vast and interesting. I'm really digging the musical creations on display!
Edit: Also, you've got a really great singing voice!
Thanks!
"Nothing like combining bad gear with bad gear" true statement
love the 'like and subscribe" sample, wasn't expecting that.. that ticked some boxes.
Thanks!
Seems to me based on what it pulled from you, it’s a pretty inspiring bit of kit. And it sounded just right while doing it.
Holy crap, I randomly came across this video and it is bursting with quality! My guy, you've earned a like and subscription from me.
Thank you so much!
Just found your channel in my RUclips recommendations. Instant subscribe after the first video and am already getting sucked down the rabbit hole of your bag gear playlist. Bad gear or no, you make great music across a bunch of genres, the video content stays interesting the whole time, perfect length, and the video editing is on point! I really hope this channel blows up, you deserve way more than a few thousand subscribers. Geiler scheiß alter! 😁
Besten Dank!
I want to hear more of that rock song! See kids, that's what talent looks like.
Thank you so much!!!
It's been a while since I've smiled this much, over a "product-review". Excellent editing, clever "visual-puns", and yet very subjective-informative! Nice one AP! Kudos.
Thanks man, it means a lot to me!
The TR-505 is a charming machine. Used to have it. I liked this video and especially the hard rock song featuring the 505. Einfach genial! :)
Besten Dank!
This video has the best original song ever. The Bad Gear Love Theme needs to be featured more!!
Thank you so much!
Yet another from your series I've had the pleasure to own. My quickest turnaround on gear ownership, I burnt the chip out the day after I got it when I thought I could lern2bend just by connecting one solder point to the next. This was back in the affordable days and an important lesson that couldn't have happened to a worse piece of gear 🤮
Tragic!
Damn! This deserves A LOT MORE views!
Thank you!!!
This thing is so underrated the sounds are helldry so it does well with multi-efx machines like Boss ME-30 or Digitech 256XL. Best feature of it is it's MIDI omni mode as a mini midi sequencer it can't be beat that alone makes it a great trigger & all-time keeper for me folks
Dry as a bone!
Late to the party on this one but needed to say that out of the 207,281 videos of yours I watched recently this one certainly "rocked" the most. Thank you!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane
It holds a special memory slot for me - used it with a Mirage and S-10 for simple bassline sequencing and drums. Took a lot of processing, but it was rock solid and did the job well!
80s homestudio workhorse
Did the same thing 'cept with Kurz K2k still doin' to this day good setup for me thanx dude.
@@AudioPilz...as stated in previous reply with a Kurz K2k it's a '90's studio workhorse' as well as it is in this day & age thanx dude.
My first Drum Machine, i was 20 when i bought it for 80 euros 😅
Since, i bought the TR707, the TR8 Aira, the TR606 and the TR909, but the TR505 is still in my setup !
I love the sounds of this TR505, the only big drawback is the lack of rapid and accessible controls as mini faders, or more knobs and the lack of separated outputs.
Nice!!!
The 80's rock version of the song from the first video was absolutely perfect. Also, I hadn't heard of Komando Elefant, and I might have to start listening to them now that I know that you worked with them.
Thank you so much!!!
It’s a very cool piece of gear indeed. I stuck a rom hack in it and now have the option of using both Linn and DMX samples at the flick of a switch. Usually I just sequence it with my BSP and that’s just fine most of the time. Individual outs is a simple and very usable mod that’s next on the todo-list.
Got mine hacked too! Great!
The song was so good I forgot I was watching a video about the TR-505 :-)
Thanks!
yer video production skillz are sick! Love the 80s flashback tune
Thank you so much!
JUst came across my 505 in a box and I was like im going to check youtube for videos. With enough practice you can operate the thing very easily and quickly. It was the the only piece of equipment I hadfor a few years so I used it a lot and learnt everything I could about it. if its not the only sequencer you have then you probably wouldnt give it that much of a chance to begin with. I love the 505, a lot of nostagia
My first drum machine. Doesn't do a lot well but great for that 80s goth sound.
Instant 80s goodness
505 snare; short, sharp love it!
😻😻😻
I loved it as soon as a few drum pads were hit. I guess I just dig that throwback sound of the 80's.
Classic!
2:02 that's such a groovy riff, I might have to sample it!
Let me know if you get famous with that❤️
First video I ever saw where a chart-topping single was created just for a demo of some bad gear. Kewl!
Thank you so much!
Used the 505 to trigg & seq with:
1) Ensoniq Mirage II digital sampler (with MASOS software)
2) Roland D-70 & Juno 106
3) Korg M3R
4) Cakewalk 2002 & Soundblaster II
5) KGB software w Claypipe interface
A little Florian history, Florian rockin' out (on bass!), Florian eating breakfast . . . that's a whole bunch of nicely ticked boxes! And I don't regret for one second that I missed all of this bad music and bad gear back then! 😎
Simpler times;) thanks!!!
This channel will go right through the roof. :-) Great videos, very entertaining!
Thank you so much! If you liked this, don't forget to check out the TR-505 modding episode (I'm really kinda proud of that one;)
3:16 the Volca integration just for the "Like and Subscribe" sample 😂😂
😀
Aw, I loved my little 505 and 707.
Classic!
At a time like this, I wish either that my DTX multi 12 had more than the stereo output itself or that I had a power supply for my other Yamaha drum machine, the RX5.
Today I came across this video, old but good!
😀😀😀
I own four of these, and am rather fond of them.
Mod at least one of them ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
@@AudioPilz I was excited to find out that there are also eproms for the Linn Drum and DX. I'll look into it, as I know someone with excellent soldering skills (and the equipment.)
@@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 HKA will have more kits ready in October if you haven't grabbed one already. Honestly, super easy to solder this kind of stuff (large contacts/components) and individual outs on the 505 are also incredibly easy to do also.
I LOVED my 505! Got it as a pawn shop special back in 93' and made a zillion demos on my Tascam Porta 01. The 505 finally died back in 2016...I miss that relic!
After modding it I'm thinking about getting a second one
I had one of those bought at the Rogue blowout and had it ripped off by someone I allowed to stay in my apartment in NY for a few days. Lesson: never let anyone you don't know really well stay in your place, especially in NY ! Lesson #2: I should have bought a 909 they were also blowing out. Don't let a sales guy talk you into buying a drum machine because "it sounds more like a real drummer" LOL OTOH having a 909 ripped off would be far more traumatic now.
Bow du hast ja wirklich ein space echo, jetzt werd ich aba langsam neidisch.. Wünsche dir noch einen schönen Abend
❤️Familienerbstück❤️
When I had mine I discovered by accident that when it was near a uv lamp it actually pitched up the drum sounds and made them snappier sort of like what you would hear on early Prodigy stuff.
I sold it in the end for a Dr Rhythm that had no midi capabilities but had sounds that were excellent especially the clap sounds
Interesting! I have to try that!
Haha, I bet that was radio interference from the ballast
WOW! MOST FUN VIDEO I HAVE SEEN ON THE 505! Best, synthwave artist Ai Accident . HAPPY HOLIDAYS BTW !!! ROCK ON ALFA !!!
Thanks!
Did I miss this one. Lol great production
Thank you so much!!!
I have two of them. It was all I had to make drum tracks from the 80s until about 2005. they're fine...the tempo does wander slightly though.
...it is drifting like a glacier
Cool video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Yall sleeping on the TR-505! Love making beats with it!
Classic!!!
Love the Outrun intro!
It's from the same year as the TR505;)
@@AudioPilz That's excellent!
That Jethro Tull Locomotive Breath joke just killed me
Thanks!
Another great video! Fantastico supreme!
Thank you!!!
Geile video! Das ist super Kontent.
Vielen Dank!!!
Your rock tune including the singing was so great!
Thank you!!!
"Chase light" would be the closest English equivalent for "Lauflicht". If it goes back-and-forth then it's a "scanner light".
older English-speaking computer programmers call them Blinkenlights/blickenlichten. a reference to a very old joke.
slightly younger, but still old would say it's like Knight Rider's car (KITT) or the Cylon scanner.
Thanks for the heads up!!!
Dude, the music in this was fantastic!!
Thank you!!!
I still have my 505 bought it in 1991 then another in 96 .I used one for beats with 606 and MSQ and the other just giving midi to my CZ5000..,lots of fun..biglove,....
I modded mine so I'm thinking of getting another one;)
For those lights, CuriousMarc calls them Blinkenlights. Usually that's in the context of binary counters and memory bits though.
Thanks for posting! That one came up a few times
I had one of these it had modded individual outputs for each drum pad mini jacks i got it cheap on ebay kept it for a couple of years then sold it. Loved it for a cool looking midi controller
bottom left at 3:54 is rad, love the wig!
Thanks!!!
I had a 505 back in the day. I installed an individual output kit that made it much more usable. I think it has a solid set of samples tho not tweakable. Love your videos!!
Thank you!!! This one has an eprom with 909 sounds now;)
Your videos are entertaining. Thank you
Thanks! It means a lot to me...
Found one of these at a local music shop. I thought it sounded horrible. But then I heard the clap.
I believe this to be my favorite Clap in all the TR drum series. Hmmmm.
I brought my MPC and sampled it :)
Don't forget to check out the TR505 mod episode. It sounds epic now ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
You could also just use the endless roland samples found in any daw nowadays
@@mattzr1550 ....thats no fun
Klingt doch geil 😍
Besonders für so Zeug, wie ab 1:49 😄😻
Hast du den mod gehört? ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
had one of these back in the early 90s.... found memories of it, but no way I'd buy one again, especially considering how much they are going for now.... think I'll stick to my Elektron Digitakt
Digitakt is so great!
My first drum machine
I kinda dig that snare, honestly. Throw a little pitch shifting on there for that Prince style detuned snare...not that I'm comparing it to a Linn lol
Why not?!? ;)
I love my TR 505. The screen is very dim ( crystals leaking maybe?) so its a hard time setting it up from the panel, Therefore I sequence it via MIDI using SEQ24 .
Oh, a Linux aficionado...
I like these old EPROM drum machines. Some are better than others but they have a certain punchiness (usually) that in the context can be quite useful. In this vein, I have the Boss DR-220E. It's not right for everything but for synthwave it fits like a glove.
Have you heard the modified version? ruclips.net/video/pPUYGK80yc0/видео.html
Des like and subscribe is einer der besten Ideen was ein "RUclips Musiker" nur einfallen könnte.. Na bin echt gespannt auf dein nächsten streich...
Besten Dank!
This is amazing! please bring back the singing and bass playing!
Thanks! I haven't practiced in a while tho;)
omg the Cruis'n arcade game intro
Classic!
Gotta love the cowbell,though.
True, one of the best!
Love it, just bought one :)
Cool!
Damn! It's a super nice channel!
Greetings from brazil
Thank you! All the best from Austria
The 505 is good. What you talking about lol. Great for house. It's got it's own sound.
I don't hate it, I just reflect on the hate of others...
@@AudioPilz Fair enough lol.
Just discovered your channel and subbed. Excellent work.
Thanks!
I enjoy these old bud great machines😁🎶
The 505 has a very special place in my heart
2:38 Automatic up vote from me for showing a still from Steel Panther's homage to Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Their version is really good.
Steel Panther - best band alive
Sounds good in that genre of music. I wonder if it can work in today’s retro futuristic genres.
Have you reviewed the Kawai R-100 series known for industrial music drum sounds?
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
I think the MIDI out on my 505 might be broken as well? I really like the 505's built-in pattern sequencing, and I was hoping to use the MIDI out to sequence some Garageband drums but the triggering is broken, no matter what I try.
edit: The MIDI out is now working properly when I use the Mio USB MIDI adapter. Still doesn't work with the MIDI interface built into my audio interface. The TR505 ain't so bad after all ;)
That rock tune is your real thing, you must do more tunes like that!!!!
Thanks!
that zz top/jethro tull killled me
Lol, thanks!
Hey, i still use one today and i still love the punch of the Kickdrum and the Snare. That optical 80s charme is just wonderfull, like a Commodore C64 as Drum Machine :)
😀😀😀
I like that you use your core instruments for a jam, MF Drive, Zoom stompbox (I have both) and your trusty rocket:) I also like that some of the gear is cheap, good for nubies. BTW, I just got a MXR Doubleshot that's now connected to my 303. It's a highly disregarded pedal (bad gear). I really wish you were in London as would love you to take the piss out of some of my gear haha
Love MXR gear. Thanks for the invitation!
Great video!
Thanks!