I've been looking for this kind of analysis for SO long, thank you. I think some people may call it dumb but as an athlete or aspiring athlete it's good to understand how you run and where your natural urges may push you to severe inefficiences --- even for your unique body.
He probably has the most efficient running style ever. I think its very influenced by his countless hours on treadmill. Its like he is gliding forward.
Hi - yes, we do running form analysis for runners at Movaia.com. We are still in free beta, so a good chance to try. Please check out www.movaia.com/ video-requirements/ to ensure the videos are in a format our algorithm "understands". If you are open to have your video analyzed / published on youtube then please drop me a sepearate message, if I can find the right material, I'll be happy to do a comparison with one of the all-time greats!
yeah would be great to see like a cross chart summary of the metrics for like 5-10 great runners-- they are all super great elites but see where diffs come from and if they are explainable by like height or leg length etc
This kind of analysis is so pointless because not even Jakob himself has ever put this thought into it. The faster you are, the better your form becomes because you're a more efficient runner, generally speaking. When you are slow and in worse shape, running is harder for you and you have to work much harder to adjust your form. People should just run the way that comes most naturally for them and when they get faster, their form will begin to naturally change. Some aspects of a runner's form are genetic and have to do with the length and position of extremities, and foot structure.
I agree there are unique aspects to all bodies, and yes naturally losing 100 lbs will allow you to approach an "optimal form" as most think about it. I view this as a small tweakable thing for high level amateurs and even pros just to know themselves and their body's better-- and potentially shave a few seconds. Humans are certainly not rational and don''t always do the rational thing or the optimal thing just from experience.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. It's true that runners generally become more efficient as they run, and their form improves. It's also true that many runners get injured as they run, partially due to bad, ingrained form, that could be avoided by identifying weak spots in their form. There's a reason DPT's will often do a running form analysis to fix issues "at the source". Strength and mobility training can improve your form and your running and a running form analysis can give you pointers where to focuss on. Finally if you are looking to optimize your overall performance then running form does come into the picture at some point.
I've run for 15 years now at competitive paces with high mileage and I can't point to one injury that was due to anything but overtraining. In my opinion, the impact of running form has a miniscule effect on injury potential when compared to overuse without proper recovery. The average hobby jogger should simply worry about running faster and more often in whichever way comes most naturally for their body. This type of analysis uses a lot of data and modeling to say almost nothing comprehensible. If I had advice to give to people looking to lose weight and get into running, I would suggest that they lose the weight through diet before beginning running. The heavier you are when you run, the harder it will be on your joints and body in general.@@Movaia
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience! It's true that sudden increases in training volume and invensity and overtraining are a significant factor in injuries, and your advice on weight management is spot-on. In our perspective, injuries often result from a combination of factors. These include individual physiology (such as weight, previous injuries, age), training specifics (volume/intensity, types of training), nutrition, gender, biomechanics/running form, surfaces, footwear, orthotics etc. While each runner's situation is unique, we believe that considering running form as a tool in the injury prevention (and performance) toolbox is valuable. A baseline check will be beneficial for most. Ultimately, the choice of tools lies with the runner and their coach.
I've been looking for this kind of analysis for SO long, thank you. I think some people may call it dumb but as an athlete or aspiring athlete it's good to understand how you run and where your natural urges may push you to severe inefficiences --- even for your unique body.
Thank you, glad you found this helpful!
He probably has the most efficient running style ever. I think its very influenced by his countless hours on treadmill. Its like he is gliding forward.
If ground contact is 0.16 sec, how much flight time before next contact of alternate foot?
Or, percentage contact time vs. air time?
Here we see a ratio of about 1:1 of stance time vs. float / air time (Compared to 70% stance vs. 30% air in typical recreational running).
GOAT kann man euch ein video von jemand selbst schicken?
bin mittelstreckler und würde auch behaupten einen relativ guten laufstil zu haben
Hi - yes, we do running form analysis for runners at Movaia.com. We are still in free beta, so a good chance to try. Please check out www.movaia.com/ video-requirements/ to ensure the videos are in a format our algorithm "understands". If you are open to have your video analyzed / published on youtube then please drop me a sepearate message, if I can find the right material, I'll be happy to do a comparison with one of the all-time greats!
Next time bernad lagat or hicham el guerrouj
yeah would be great to see like a cross chart summary of the metrics for like 5-10 great runners-- they are all super great elites but see where diffs come from and if they are explainable by like height or leg length etc
This kind of analysis is so pointless because not even Jakob himself has ever put this thought into it. The faster you are, the better your form becomes because you're a more efficient runner, generally speaking. When you are slow and in worse shape, running is harder for you and you have to work much harder to adjust your form. People should just run the way that comes most naturally for them and when they get faster, their form will begin to naturally change. Some aspects of a runner's form are genetic and have to do with the length and position of extremities, and foot structure.
I agree there are unique aspects to all bodies, and yes naturally losing 100 lbs will allow you to approach an "optimal form" as most think about it. I view this as a small tweakable thing for high level amateurs and even pros just to know themselves and their body's better-- and potentially shave a few seconds. Humans are certainly not rational and don''t always do the rational thing or the optimal thing just from experience.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. It's true that runners generally become more efficient as they run, and their form improves. It's also true that many runners get injured as they run, partially due to bad, ingrained form, that could be avoided by identifying weak spots in their form. There's a reason DPT's will often do a running form analysis to fix issues "at the source". Strength and mobility training can improve your form and your running and a running form analysis can give you pointers where to focuss on. Finally if you are looking to optimize your overall performance then running form does come into the picture at some point.
@@Movaiaincorrect
I've run for 15 years now at competitive paces with high mileage and I can't point to one injury that was due to anything but overtraining. In my opinion, the impact of running form has a miniscule effect on injury potential when compared to overuse without proper recovery. The average hobby jogger should simply worry about running faster and more often in whichever way comes most naturally for their body. This type of analysis uses a lot of data and modeling to say almost nothing comprehensible. If I had advice to give to people looking to lose weight and get into running, I would suggest that they lose the weight through diet before beginning running. The heavier you are when you run, the harder it will be on your joints and body in general.@@Movaia
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience! It's true that sudden increases in training volume and invensity and overtraining are a significant factor in injuries, and your advice on weight management is spot-on. In our perspective, injuries often result from a combination of factors. These include individual physiology (such as weight, previous injuries, age), training specifics (volume/intensity, types of training), nutrition, gender, biomechanics/running form, surfaces, footwear, orthotics etc.
While each runner's situation is unique, we believe that considering running form as a tool in the injury prevention (and performance) toolbox is valuable. A baseline check will be beneficial for most. Ultimately, the choice of tools lies with the runner and their coach.