Differentiating with respect to... What? | Fractal Derivative

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @thehimagedidntfitinmypfp6562
    @thehimagedidntfitinmypfp6562 25 дней назад +173

    substitution is one hell of a drug

  • @michaellin4230
    @michaellin4230 10 дней назад +49

    6:44
    Most rigorous physics student.

  • @infinityoreos7717
    @infinityoreos7717 12 часов назад +2

    these videos have genuinely been such a pleasure to watch, even though I don't know who the anime people are, or why they exist. this is a joy. thank you for making these!

  • @gabberwhacky
    @gabberwhacky 20 дней назад +55

    6:34 this looks so illegal, there must have been a physicist involved😅

    • @JatPhenshllem
      @JatPhenshllem 15 дней назад +2

      I didn't do it I swear

    • @fgvcosmic6752
      @fgvcosmic6752 13 дней назад +9

      I mean, its technically just chain rule and reciprocal rule, so all is well
      Just dont try and do that with partial derivatives :D

    • @nikos4677
      @nikos4677 2 дня назад

      ​​@@fgvcosmic6752Its also that rule which i dont know if it has a name which relates the deravitive of a function to the deravtive of its iverse function. Just because of the use of the leibniz notation the inverse doesnt have to be a function. But its the same logic. The rule on functions states f'(x) = 1/(f^-1(y))'. Notice that f^-1(y) is just df^-1(y)/dy = dx/dy. Thus dy/dx = 1/(dx/dy)

  • @magma90
    @magma90 Месяц назад +40

    4:20 that is correct
    7:00 also correct (even if it a slight abuse of notation)
    10:10 By using symbolic expressions by keeping track of the powers of 1/0, we can say that the definition as 1/αx^{α-1}*df/dx is valid (this is basically just analytic functions at x=0)
    We can also extend this derivative to a derivative with respect to any differentiable function as df/dg=(df/dx)/(dg/dx), however when we have multivariable calculus, we have to sum derivatives with respect to the other base variables, for example derivative of f(x,y,z) with respect to g(x,y,z) can be defined as df/dg=(df/dx)/(dg/dx)+(df/dy)/(dg/dy)+(df/dz)/(dg/dz).

  • @adamfox-of9tt
    @adamfox-of9tt 26 дней назад +45

    An anime girl teaching me math is something I needed.

  • @obz1357
    @obz1357 26 дней назад +28

    I love these videos. Combining two things I love, maths and zundamon

  • @andreivulpe6148
    @andreivulpe6148 6 дней назад +10

    Bashame left the rice fields and started math fields

  • @cdkw2
    @cdkw2 Месяц назад +46

    my teacher just said multiply and divide by dx and then replace the dsqrt(x) with dx and calculate the other with the reciprocal differential rule

    • @QwertierMannier-yp2hb
      @QwertierMannier-yp2hb 12 дней назад

      Not wrong but this gives an intuitive explanation

    • @cdkw2
      @cdkw2 11 дней назад +1

      @@QwertierMannier-yp2hb yeah its just a slight abuse of notation

  • @cdkw2
    @cdkw2 Месяц назад +14

    I love the little end screen with a quote!

  • @epsilia3611
    @epsilia3611 27 дней назад +10

    An interesting exercise would be to analyze the process of finding the formula at 7:30 and finding at which step of the reasoning did we assume something restrictive that would not make it work for certain functions like the square root function at 0 for example.

  • @aonikazuma
    @aonikazuma 2 дня назад +1

    love u guys and ur work

  • @thebeardman7533
    @thebeardman7533 19 дней назад +2

    You people are cooking just in the way really good videos about understanding math form a student perspective and alwaying people to follow it

  • @emanuellandeholm5657
    @emanuellandeholm5657 4 дня назад +1

    This is how I would approach d/( d g(x) ) f(x). Substitute u for g(x). Rewrite f(x) in terms of u. Differentiate. If the substitution is bijective over some interval, we can write this in terms of x by applying the inverse, g^-1, of the substitution.

  • @yazeedalfrog
    @yazeedalfrog 24 дня назад +3

    this is great haha, so much different than the usual math videos

  • @KayKay-ob6tz
    @KayKay-ob6tz 7 дней назад +1

    I am from college and my family watching this would be wild help!!!

  • @lelouchlamperouge7883
    @lelouchlamperouge7883 12 дней назад +1

    I love this channel. Keep up with this great work

  • @Самийск
    @Самийск 16 дней назад +2

    It's actually an amazing content

  • @pizza8725
    @pizza8725 15 дней назад +3

    I though of the substituion method too

  • @monishrules6580
    @monishrules6580 Месяц назад +3

    I like the other one better and just reading the subtitiles

  • @ethanliu-y2t
    @ethanliu-y2t 25 дней назад +2

    Taught me more than my actual school teacher😅

  • @Buorgenhaeren
    @Buorgenhaeren 25 дней назад +7

    HOLY SHIT YOU MAKE ENGLISH VERSIONS I LOVE YOU INSTASUB

  • @l0ve_math
    @l0ve_math 7 дней назад +2

    Just to point out to other people watching the video
    This is not fractional derivatives it's fractal and they are not the same

  • @Fuxor2137
    @Fuxor2137 14 дней назад +1

    my brain is melting

  • @danielrybuk1905
    @danielrybuk1905 6 дней назад +1

    4:20 absolutely correct, but the reasoning in a rigorous way is due to topology and im not gonna try to write it in a comment as im not sure yt supports math lingo, and its too long, and its already written somewhere online (lazy too find a source, but i know it exists, written an assay on it a couple of years ago in collage)

    • @danielrybuk1905
      @danielrybuk1905 6 дней назад

      also 7:00 also correct, the ability to do so is a very important theorem for differential equations, without it most DEs would be "unsolvable" (in an ease way at least)

    • @danielrybuk1905
      @danielrybuk1905 6 дней назад

      also 10:00 is absolutely important! in general if you get an answer, you should still check if it still applies to the original question! (if you let yourself use everything you know without worrying if classical logic is "2way or 1way" then you can quickly get an answer to a question, but the answer can be false so you need to check, as long as you train yourself well, you can insure that you don't "miss" any potential answer and then you are free to blaze trough mountains of exercises! get a tutor if you can and in need of one for this!)

  • @lox7182
    @lox7182 14 дней назад +1

    people are always "the derivative isn't a fraction" but even if it isn't a fraction it's a limit of a fraction and lim(a) * lim(b) = lim(a*b) so treating it like a fraction usually ain't even that bad

  • @mathchannelforwatching-s4i
    @mathchannelforwatching-s4i 27 дней назад +9

    this channel is cool, too bad it has less than 1000 or so subscribers I believe a channel requires 1000+ subscribers before getting paid, hopefully this gets more views and subscribers. Good math.

    • @kellymoses8566
      @kellymoses8566 23 дня назад

      This is an english language version of www.youtube.com/@zunda-theorem

  • @Geitungur
    @Geitungur 12 дней назад +1

    Could this be generalised to d/d g(x) f(x) = (f(x+h) - f(x)) / (g(x + h) - g(x)?

  • @conrad5342
    @conrad5342 3 дня назад +1

    Now I might be confused.
    Fractal differentiating is NOT the same as fractional calculus? ... right?

  • @ElephantThePotato
    @ElephantThePotato 26 дней назад +3

    my little brain :0

  • @GokuTheSuperSaiyan1
    @GokuTheSuperSaiyan1 2 дня назад +1

    Isn't this just the chain rule?

  • @0hhigh
    @0hhigh 25 дней назад +2

    市場規模考えたら、もっと英語コンテンツ有っても良いと思うが
    日本は世界でもかなり特異な教育体制なので、数学ができる者の率が高いので
    有象無象も突っ込んでくるが
     (ヨビノリみたいに「私の動画は概ね偏差値60以上を対象としています」と足切りするとか)
    海外だと高等教育を受けていないと、数学は無理なので
    視聴者もハイエンド寄りになるので、荒れないで済むと思う

    • @makssachs8914
      @makssachs8914 14 дней назад

      Are you calling the rest of the world stupid?

  • @eddie-brawlstars3156
    @eddie-brawlstars3156 11 дней назад +1

    Calc BC student here: What is the purpose of taking a fractal derivative? Also, please make a video on partial derivatives. I am interested in learning slightly ahead

    • @michaellin4230
      @michaellin4230 10 дней назад +1

      Not a mathematician but sometimes its useful when the variable you are differentiating with respect to isn’t a linear function. For example, if you want to find the rate of change of a car moving with respect to time, you would just differentiate it. But if time wasn’t constantly moving at the same speed, but at the rate of square root of x, you could use this formula.
      Time doesn’t work like that, but it can in some cases. Theres a theorem out there that if 2 particles travel the same path in different time intervals, there exist a function that you can apply on the time variable to make it follow the same “speed” along the path.
      So if you have 2 cars, and the time function is the square root, you can differentiate car 1 with respect to the square root of x to get the speed of car 2.

  • @killing_gaming0973
    @killing_gaming0973 27 дней назад +9

    Can we substitute f(x) = f((√x)²) lol don't do this, I'm just asking 😊

    • @FundamSrijan
      @FundamSrijan 15 дней назад +2

      Yeah , let √x = y , so x = y²
      And now it becomes -
      dy²
      _____ = 2y = 2√x
      dy

    • @fgvcosmic6752
      @fgvcosmic6752 13 дней назад +1

      Yes, but make sure to remember the chain rule!

    • @FundamSrijan
      @FundamSrijan 13 дней назад +1

      @@fgvcosmic6752 yeah , half of the _diff._ is just _chain rule_

  • @srather
    @srather 16 дней назад +1

    7:55 noo you cant just split the limit 😭If both are zero or infinity you must use rigerous methods to find the limit

    • @Itoyokofan
      @Itoyokofan 15 дней назад +1

      maybe use dual numbers then?

  • @wambertojoseliradequeiroz7919
    @wambertojoseliradequeiroz7919 6 дней назад +1

    d^m/dx^m(x^n)=(n!/(n-m)!)x^(n-m), n>=m;
    d^m/dx^m(x^n)=(Gamma(n+1)/Gamma(n-m+1))*x^(n-m);
    If m=1/2 and n=1, the result is 2√x/√π

  • @steppindown6874
    @steppindown6874 18 дней назад +1

    So when alpha equals -1 that would mean we're integrating it right

    • @fgvcosmic6752
      @fgvcosmic6752 13 дней назад

      d/d(x^-1) isnt integration, it is differentiation with respect to 1/x.
      For example, d/d(x^-1) of 1/x = 1, but the integral of 1/x is _not_ 1

  • @koicc1192
    @koicc1192 25 дней назад +4

    Hold up....this is possible even with integration? I'm quite curious

    • @tomkerruish2982
      @tomkerruish2982 19 дней назад +2

      Riemann-Stieltjes Integral, if I'm not mistaken.

    • @fgvcosmic6752
      @fgvcosmic6752 13 дней назад

      Yep, you can just do it by substitution
      Instead of writing dsqrt(x), we can instead use u=sqrt(x) and write du instead [noting that du = 1/2sqrtx dx = 1/2u du]

  • @LynnieTheAnimeKing
    @LynnieTheAnimeKing 17 дней назад +1

    Subscribed

  • @user-ek4to2pv1f
    @user-ek4to2pv1f Месяц назад +3

    もしかして日本語版未公開動画ですか?

    • @zunda-theorem-en
      @zunda-theorem-en  Месяц назад +3

      はい!日本語版も近いうちに公開する予定です。

  • @Murzik_krot
    @Murzik_krot 15 дней назад +1

    What is the music on the background?

  • @ArcanaChandra
    @ArcanaChandra 3 часа назад +1

    i gave the respect to the √x 🫡

  • @KayKay-ob6tz
    @KayKay-ob6tz 7 дней назад +3

    I am from college and my family watching this would be wild help!!!