Apogee Duet 3 Review | 9 Months Later, Did They Get It Right?
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If you've watched my original Apogee Duet 3 audio interface review you'll know my experience was plagued with problems. Now that time has passed will the Duet 3 show improved stability and performance? Watch my official 9 month follow up and find out today.
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So Apogee have finally gotten their act together with their Duet 3, thats good! However I still don’t like that silly ‘break-out’ cable, and I still think its too expensive! Looks VERY nice though!!
Nicely done Jacob. I have the original Apogee Duet which I am going to try to use w Reaper and EZmix pre-sets. A bit new to the game, but what you discussed here was clear enough that I gained a lot better understanding of Duet and how it interfaces with a DAW.
I watched your other video and I just wanted to mention that everything you have said about this product has been helpful. Really well spoken and to the point, job well done!
Much appreciated!
Hey man, great video! Glad to see they were able to improve the drivers!
Thanks! Agreed, huge improvement from my initial review
Hi Jacob, This was great !! Thanks for the followup update. I did not purchase based on your first review and I'm re-considering it now. Also just realized there is an App for iPhone and iPad now and wondering if you had tested it.
I don't have an iPhone or iPad but that'll be changing when the iPhone 14 drops
It looks amazing and sounds clear . I prefer the docking station over the cables or maybe both cables would be okay for travels.
Informative content thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Agreed on the dock for home use and cables for travel.
I like mine, for its form factor, but the DSP is weak and almost useless. Im going to Apollo, as we use ours in a live set up.
What kills it for me is Apogee is using the core audio drivers for Mac now. Loved the sound but performance and stability is nowhere near as solid as RME in my experience.
Pl. do some vocal and guitar tests too.
awesome video man ! I have been wanting to buy the Duet 3 for a while but after reading reviews it was disconcerting because I am a pc user
It was definitely concerning and I can only go by my personal experience but all good here
Yo great vid, what speaker stands do you use for your Focals ?
For any one in the comments using a Duet 3 now or in the past, I want to hear your experience if are/were using a 2018 Mac mini with 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i3 and 16GB RAM or similar Specs. Trying to gauge everyone's experience before I buy one. I know Duet 3 could be end of life but I have no plans to sell my 2018 Mac mini anytime soon and want to stay with an apogee interface b/c my whole ecosystem is Apple including iPhone, and iPad Pro. The reason I want to stay with Apogee is b/c they are usually ready day one with updates for any new Apple updates. I currently have the jam+ but want a better interface and don't want to spend anymore than the cost of a used Duet 3.
Appreciate the updated review! Respect 💯
Thanks! I knew I was going to follow up at some point, glad they got it figured out
@@JacobDarkOfficial Yessir!
What kind of compression were you using on this video? I like the way it grabs your voice.
Bought the Duet 3 with the dock... tough first day or two in terms of stability... but it seems like we've gotten the bugs out. The sound is professional. I've owned the Duet, Duet 2, and now the Duet 3. I don't see anything that rivals Apogee in the price range. Maybe Universal Audio Apollo Solo would.
Conversion is very subjective, but I have tested both and would say Apogee is far cleaner. Benefit on the Solo is one box for all I/Os as well as the unison pres.
Can you speak on the sound quality difference between the Duet 2 (which I have) and the Duet 3? I am running a pair of Genelec 8030A monitors.
@@scott-richardson ... in terms of sound quality, I can hardly tell the difference. Both are great.
@@hansgordy thanks mate. I might stick with the Duet 2 for now.
@@scott-richardsonI’ve noticed the duet 3 to be “bigger and wider” sounding over the duet 2 but not much though, the preamps on the duet have more “juice” and mojo but with a little bit of brittle sibilance to them though ( deesser really fixes that ) while the 3 I found the preamps to be boring and bright ….. to me not worth the price specially if you have the duet 2 , honestly what I did was returned the duet 3 and I grabbed an Art Trans-X preamp for $500 , has 2 pres on it, it rivals preamps in the $1000’s it’s quite good and much better then the duet 3 and 2 preamps
Thanks that was very helpful. Btw does the Duet 3 work on Windows 11 and Mac M1 machines.
Another great video. I was just curious
If you might be doing a video with latency numbers on this? You’re one of the few people that goes in depth with the rtl on all your interface reviews which for me is important since i use guitar amp sims and virtual instruments and the latency really matters. Also does this operate under usb 2.0 protocol or will it only work with 3.0
The latency numbers maybe a little different depending on the OS (Windows vs Mac) you are using, but you should be able to run amp sims and virtual instruments at a reasonable buffer settings withouth suffering from latency. Duet 3 uses USB 2.0 porotocol. If you have more questions, feel free to connect with our support team via support@apogeedigital.com or chat with us on apogeedigital.com
@@apogeedigital Awesome! Thanks so much for the info. Looks like I’ll be going with the duet 3 then. Great products!
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Hi , is there a big difference using the power from the the computer or from the external power supply ,thanks
Great interface. I don’t like that they can only record two inputs at once. This should have been a 4 in 4 out device for the price.
Hi Brother, I am looking for a good audio interface (for singing), "apogee duet 3" and "antelope zen go" which one is better?
Duet 3
As of July 2023, I have problems with it, it has connectivity issues with my Mac, it makes it restart, it freezes my computer, I haven't been able to use it as I would like. It also crashes once I change any audio setting. The output on my headset doesn't work, the input freezes and works poorly. Do you have any recommendation for a full new install?
Can you tell the model of mac, OS version?
Thank you for this!
From my understand when you mention you get higher quality when it is plugged into wall vs plugged into Mac directly? Is the correct? For example if I plug duet 3 directly into Mac it will work but the audio quality will not be a good as plugging into wall? Thank you for your help
I'm looking for an audio interface that would have the best sound quality on speakers and headphones
My current options are Audient iD14, Antelope Zen Go and the Apogee Duet 3 (and if you have other options I would love to hear)
What are the differences you heard with the speakers output and the headphones output, and how noticeable were they?
I'm really curious about what did you manage to hear more on the Apogee that you couldn't hear on the other 2, if it's more details, better clarity, soundstage, what songs also did you listen to compare?
And last question, is it worth double the price of the Audient or the Antelope?
What about the need to use software to control such things as, eg, phantom power? It's can really be a deal-breaker that should really be included in a 9-months later review
According to a producer in china, he says that duet works better on mac, also ok on pc, but is having trouble on laptops.
My apogee duet 3 is having problems with the purple led. they are slowly fading. In the beginning they were more intense, but after 1 year they started to fade. Has anyone ever experienced this?
Apogee occasionally checks these comments, maybe they'll chime in. If not I'd try sending support an email
@@JacobDarkOfficial perfect! Thanks
Can you record straight to your iPhone?
Hi Jacob. Thanks for the video....I just bought duet 3 today and when I shift input from instrument to microphone....or microphone to instrument I hear a clicking sound from the hardware. I don't know if it should be there or not. ....?????? Please tell me whats that.
Not sure, I'd reach out to Apogee
Got my duet 3 and had it connected to my PC. The device itself is a fair deal, but man the duet dock is literally cheap plastic like really cheap that kind of plastic. Sometimes I do experience weird noises in the system but I was able to fix them most of the time by unplugging and plugging the device back on. Would be a no-brainer if they would fix such audio issues.
Hopefully they patch whatever is going on and fix your issue, reach out to them if it becomes too much
Hi Jakob, thanks for the review. Does the duet 3 offer different preamp via ALLOY or is it only on symphony desktop? Same question about the effects DSP, it it only ECS channel strip for the duet or do other effects can be used ? One more question on Mac logic integration: can you control the preamp gain phase etc. from within logic ? Cheers
Apogee Alloy Preamp Emulation is a feature that is unique to Symphony Desktop. Duet 3 can use ECS Channel Strip on its DSP. Symphony Desktop allows you to control every aspect of its inputs (Gain, Phantom Power, Phase, Soft Limit, plugin, direct mixer level, etc.) using the Apogee Channel FX (plugin) in any DAW.
I have a sound through problem with my Duet 3 on my M1 MacBook Pro. It will only recognise it as a Generic USB Device, where as on my Intel MacBook Pro, it works perfectly and recognises it correctly as a Apogee Electronics Corp Duet 3.
Hey there! We're sorry to hear about the issue you're experiencing, but want to help. Have you installed Apogee Control 2 for Duet 3? Does it recognize Duet 3? In your Mac > About This Mac > System Pref > Hardware > Audio, does it recognize Duet 3?
Hello Jacob. Curious, what were the Specs of the Mac you were using in this video? Are you currently using Duet 3? If so, could you please provide an update or why no longer using. Thank you.
M1 Mac Mini 16GB, not using the interface because I have a rackmount setup now
Hi jacob.. I love the video and most importantly your honesty.. I've also seen your zen go/q videos as well and quite frankly I'm in a delima... I regard your insights because of your honesty and so I need your help...I want to get an audio interface to produce professional radio ready songs, and I've been contemplating between zen go/q and duet 3 ...in your opinion ,which one would most likely achieve my aim with..putting mic pres, coverters, and headphone amps into consideration.. which one do you suggest?
So Antelope was awesome initially but began to develop weird issues over time, software bugs and strange hisses, I'd stay away, the Duet would be the better choice as long as it works for you flawlessly, I'd also suggest looking at the Motu Ultralite Mk5 in the price range
@@JacobDarkOfficial thanks a bunch.. I've heard so much about the zen go/q software isuues that's why I wanted to hear your opinion on them... it was also through your video I found out about motu ultralite mk5 but I don't know why I'm not drawn to it.. it's just a feeling but maybe I'm skeptical on it's mic pres and converters compared to a duet 3 or the zens.. I think one of the issue for me is, it's difficult to find videos of people producing radio ready songs with the audio interface(s) which will encourage my purchasing decision... I once considered audient 1d14 mkii but I realized it's converters suck compared to the zens.. quite frankly I'm surprised you use the audient 1d14 mkii now.. if my memory serves me right, you once had ,reviewed and said motu ultralite mk5 is just perfect for you...
I chose the id14 simply for it's physical knobs and being able to control my monitors with buttons instead of software. It was a downgrade but I don't need absolute top quality to do RUclips. That said I'm now down to one pair of monitors so it'll probably get replaced at some point on the future.
@@JacobDarkOfficial wow okay.. it makes sense.. I'll be on the lookout to see what you get next as a replacement.. actually I'm curious .. until then thank you for your insight .. I really appreciate it..I've got a dream and I seriously want to achieve it and you just helped me out on the journey....
@@josephdaniel7777 Thanks! Hey if you want to help me out you can do so by using my link when you end up buying
How does this one sound compared to the Apollo twin? Thanks in advance.
Haven't heard an Apollo in years but go through the comments and see if you'd like to go this route.
I have a Mac and the apogee ensemble, and for years I've had problems.
I was thinking of getting one just to go from my Arturia 8 pre into this and then back in to the Arturia, to take advantage of da/ad conversion, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.
I bought one and could not get it to work. Sweetwater spent hours working with me and ultimately had to exchange the unit. They were great.
New unit came to me just before the update for the software- works most of the time. Was disappointed as I was expecting a more premium experience. Sweetwater saved their butt!
Sweetwater is definitely reliable, I agree with any device at any price point, at the very least we expect things to run as they should
Loving your videos , thanks a lot . Had my eyes on this interface , and finally pulled the trigger . Ohh man , biggest disappointment ever , in fact , my apogee duet 3 is outperformed by my 10 year old cheap presonus audiobox ione , $69. on the instrument input my electric guitar is clipping the input even with gain set to zero . took me 7 times to register and update the firmware before I could use it . support chat just closed midways in helping me . I can´t record any guitar part with this thing as it is clipping . Sound quality is not even better than the above mentioned presonus interface if it is it is only by a hair . Really sorry to say that for me it is worthless , and have already been to big of a hassle to just get it up and running and when its working I can´t use it . REALLY wanted to like it , as I like the design and have almost only heard good things of Apogee , both sound quality wise and stability.
I WILL RETURN THIS UNIT , FOR ME IT IS NOT WORTH THE PRICE. First experience with Apogee and sorry to say it is gonna be my last .
FYI. Apogee duet 3 on macbook M1 chip
Sorry to hear this and it's a shame they still haven't figured out the issues with this unit
@@JacobDarkOfficial Yeah it really is .
Your effort to save Duet 3’s reputation is highly appreciated, but sorry, it will obsolete soon.
Hi Jacob! Thanx for your video. I remember when my computer gets to sleep, which cuts off the USB power to my Apogee Duet (2nd gen), it sends an almighty popping noise to the monitors. Repeat on wake-up. Is it the same for Duet 3? Did they solved the problem? Thanks.
I don't have this interface anymore but I'm almost positive it will do the same thing. If you're set on it just buy it from a dealer that accepts returns.
Great review as always,thank you Jacob!!How you compare the dac sound quality with Black Lion Evolution 2x2 ?
I'd say the BLA is warm and "vibey" while this is super clean and detailed
@@JacobDarkOfficial thank you!!!!
@@JacobDarkOfficial which one you like? If have to pick one. Assuming software all equal driver same.
@@manitsony6703 Do you want something that seems to add a little character? (BLA) Or do you want something super clean and detailed? (Duet 3) My ears would choose the Duet 3 but it's been quite a while since I've heard the BLA so my memory may be biased. Either way, bonus points if you use my link 😁
@@JacobDarkOfficial I did watch ur vid when bla releqased bought one used for listening to music and sold it. ^^
Do they have a way to bypass the preamp?
Hey Jacob. I needed a smaller setup for my laptop and went with the Audient ID14 MKII. Is there really a great difference between it and the apogee? I currently have an Ensemble thunderbolt as well for my larger setup and I did notice the sound difference.
Do I hear an audible difference, yes, is it a "great" difference that'll change your end product? Probably not
Great vid
I have apogee quartet...but some days ago its suddenly over hitting and smiling...i saw the smps transformer is burned...please help me how to repair it..
Contact Apogee
Hey i asked apogee directly about latency in FL studio but they weren’t bothered to test the duet 3 for me @ 512 samples 44.1 khz are u able to test it ?
I haven't had the Duet since making this video, sorry
bought one when they came out. amazing sound, but the unit broke within the first month. Thomann replaced it. Then the second one broke and they replaced that one. Now on the third and guess what?! it BROKE! Hands down this is the most unreliable interface iv ever owned. Such a shame because it does sound great.
Which part kept breaking?
The high pitched voice during the screen capture parts is grating
tutto risolto con il nuovo drivers 1.20.100 e Firmware 1.0.52, pienamente compatibile anche con Windows 11
I dont think this upgrde worth it from duet 2 tbh but it does look slick
How would you compare this to a Apollo twin duo in terms of sound?
Haven't heard an Apollo in years so wouldn't be able to give an accurate response but I'd imagine at this point the difference will be negligible
which converters do you like better between the duet 3 and the zen q?
I feel like the Duet is cleaner and less prone to noise
@@JacobDarkOfficial So just cleaner in terms of sound reproduction but same level of quality?
@@MinisterTravis Converters are both going to be top quality, but yeah I would notice strange hiss sometimes with the Zen during playback
@@JacobDarkOfficial Thanks bro! I think i may go back to apogee since i dont really use the plug ins
@@MinisterTravis If you do I'd super appreciate you using my link!
Duet 3 or Apollo solo?🤔
Probably Duet if Mac, PC I'd go iD24
@@JacobDarkOfficiali have the ID24 , definitely sounds better then the ID4 MKII and ID14 MKII but im curious as to which has better preamps between the duet 3 and the ID24
my duet 3 is giving me a pain in the ass, constant cracking sound
Sorry to hear that, hopefully Apogee chimes in, send a support ticket as well
How to do that. Please help. I even got a replacement same problem
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If you are facing any noise issues with your Duet 3. I have made a troubleshoot video ruclips.net/video/OdoiICtYX4Y/видео.html
Apogees are great cards, to bad their driver department is poorly managed. Duet 3 from Duet 2 is getting off from a horse and getting on a Donkey. That channel strip deal is a hook. And the unit itself is faulty, no studio grade card has mini headphone jack, sorry. Their biggest nemesis RME Babyface has redesigned the whole chassis while Duet is bragging abour that purple light and gorilla glass. This is not a phone you know. And where did the LED screen and Midi port go? All I am saying, no need to change from Duet 2 for Mac and PC, if I do, I will look some other brand. Cheers to Mr.Dark.
Yeah that’s on windows
Windows tho