⚡ TIMESTAMPS ⚡ 0:00 Intro 1:50 Djay Pro + Apple Music demo 3:16 Streaming service limitations 4:32 The "Local Music" workaround 6:02 iPhone integration 8:29 The biggest issue.. 10:59 Final thoughts
Djay is the most under-rated DJ Software out there. There was a time when noone was streaming and then, boom, Djay had Spotify. When Spotify went away, then Tidal came on board. Everyone asked for DVS support and that changed the game when Djay introduced DVS support. Now we have Apple Support and the other goodies Djay announced. Nice work and truly innovaticve.
Ive only used Djay and dabbled with Serato. I used to feel guilty about not using Serato because “everyone” uses it. But i learned years ago to not gaf. Djay is user friendly and has all of the goodies that Serato has. I’m an apple guy and it’s beautiful to me.
Long time Serato user here but I am loving what I see from Algoriddim djay pro and Apple Music integration. The fact that I can see my folders structure, smarplaylists and curated playlist the way I see it in iTunes is a big win. Their software has advanced tremendously as well.
This is really convenient for a complete beginner like me (literally got my first controller two days ago). I’ve been using apple music for years now and having access to my full library is amazing. I kid you not I was in the process of downloading a bunch of music when I read the djay apple music announcement so this couldn’t have come in a better time lol. Thanks for the video
You're welcome! It is exactly people like you, with month, years or even decades of music in iTunes (ie Apple Music) who I feel will truly benefit from this.
I'm a long time user of itunes/Music and have gotten used to using a wire to sync my iPad music with my Mac. My iPhone is set to sync over Wi=Fi and that works just as well. I definitely don't use the Sync Library function in iTunes/Music because of the Apple Match feature. So far this has been the best work flow for me to keep my devices synced up. I will only use the Apple Music streaming platform to fill in the gaps and to get requests for songs I don't have stored locally just like I did with Tidal. I'm just very happy to now have access to Apple music in DJay Pro.
Since Spotify was gone in djay, this is a big one. Still prefer my own music downloaded, but when you do not have a song that you want to play, this is a great solution.
Nice one Phil. Products like this are much needed pieces of the PRO DJ/Producer workflow. As a long time iTunes/Music user, and pro DJ/Producer, one of the biggest pains for me has been using iTunes/Music to try out mixes quickly. Now I can crate dig, Shazam, make playlists, etc…and do that on any device. Then if I want to sync to Beatport for downloads/WAVs, that’s been solved with “tunemymusic”. From there I can continue w/the typical pro flow for a studio mix, stream or live show w/ableton, DJ.studio, serato, rekordbox, etc…where I only want to manage relevant playlists. Party on freaks 🤙🏽😎🖤
@@digitaldjtips hahah for sure, it’s been years in the making, and part of that through your channel. Idk how anyone that presses the buttons would get anything done without an “integrated” workflow.
djay user and Apple Music subscriber here. This solves one major problem for me, which is that I was subscribing to Tidal for the month in advance ofgigs where I thought I might take requests. Now I can take requests with the streaming service I pay for anyway. Apart from that, no change anticipated; I will live in the local music tab, buy my music on the iTunes store, and use smart playlists and wire-based sync with my Mac and iPad to make sure I have my complete and updated library on both. I do use Cloud music library on my phone and Mac, where I’m not worried if Apple Music fails to sync the correct recording to my phone. It is no coincidence that this partnership was announced on the very day Apple Vision Pro hit the public. Apple Vision Pro is a locked-down system, like iOS but without the sync wire, so unless Apple was willing to let one of their premier partner apps encourage its users to subscribe to third-party music streaming services to experience augmented reality DJing, they needed this partnership.
There is an option now I notice to stop it messing with your artwork and metadata, that wasn't there before, would be interested to know if anyone has experimented with that.
@@digitaldjtips It has never messed with my meta data. (mp3tags) Only thing itunes/music app does is resorting your tracks if you tick this option in preferences.
Hi Phil, another fantastic video by the way. I'm wondering if the draw has been done for the big Give-away you announced a few weeks ago? The opus quad was a prize along with some other amazing products.
having the Local and Music doubling playlist might come in handy in case there's no internet, at least u have a copy of your local tunes organized in the local playlists.
Good point, although there's absolutely no advantage to playing your own music from the cloud other than not having to switch tabs, and plenty of disadvantages.
I agree Phil… this Apple Music idea is the 1.0 version of them breaking into this. I hope they listen to the review. The upside when it’s right is huge! Appreciate the honest feedback.
very good news, I was really looking forward to connecting this streaming) but I would like you to implement the following features to work with Apple Music: 1) the ability to analyze tracks in playlists in advance, and not only when the track is loaded into the soundboard, as it is implemented with Tidal 2) the ability to use tracks downloaded to the Apple Music app on i Pad /i Phone or Mac 3) the choice of streaming quality as it is done with Tidal 4) offline mode Apple Music app 5) Neural mix
It would be really cool if you could decide which two decks that you’re controlling while in two deck mode. I’d love to have my laptop display decks 1&3 and for my iPad to show 2&4 or whatever. In the dropdown next to the deck selection that shows waveform controls, I feel like they could add a select deck button
Not sure if this works with the Apple Music integration, but for other streaming services you can refresh playlists by pulling down from the top in the playlist listing section of playlists on the left
@@digitaldjtips Absolutely, 100%! As an ardent Apple fan, my journey with graphic design dates back to the late '80s, reveling in the instant creativity of manipulating typography. As a creative individual, I seamlessly embraced Digital DJing when MP3s and related formats rose to prominence in the early 2000s. The evolution of technology allowed DJs to transition from vinyl and CD setups to digital files, offering unparalleled flexibility and accessibility. Retiring from DJing about 14 years ago, I rediscovered the Djay app two years back, amazed by its transformation, especially with the groundbreaking neural mix integration. This innovation felt akin to the invention of wheels, signifying a transformative moment in the DJing world. Since then, I've returned to professional DJing, performing in Canada, the USA, Jamaica, and soon, Turkey. My extensive use of iTunes and iPods since their inception has cultivated an almost expert knowledge of the Music app. I had hoped for integration with Djay Pro, and now, with access to over 10,000 songs I've saved over the years, my DJ software has become a treasure trove. However, the unfortunate limitation on neural mix capabilities poses a challenge to my preferred mixing technique. Also, the prospect of reverting DJ remixes to original versions is a bit disheartening. I'm actively seeking solutions and will share any breakthroughs for others to benefit. Before I conclude, I must express my admiration. You're not only a trailblazer in the DJing world but also tirelessly dedicated, compassionate about DJing, and genuinely committed to helping people. Your teaching methods in the course I purchased are the epitome of easy-to-follow steps, facilitating perfection in learning. Thank you for your invaluable contributions!
I’m just messing with it but I’m glad something I already pay for has even more usefulness with this update. One thing I’ve noticed with the free version is that automix is available on the iPhone but not on the desktop
I love the fact that apple music is finally able to be used for dj’ing and I hope it comes to rekordbox and other dj softwares. But for now useing djay on my phone is a great way to pass the time in my class.
What a great video! You answered most of my questions, that is problem that I have with Apple Music. Apple change all the music that I own and remixes, even covers I created. Don’t get me wrong DJ Pro is a great app, and I can lots of things with it. Also, you mentioned music services that you used, which is your favorite that you can get great remixes, and I taking about real dance music not R&B.
Losing neural mix with tidal was pretty devastating to my mobile dj setup. I was hoping Apple Music would have it but if none of the streaming services do I might be stuck transferring tracks from my computer to my iPad
The work around that has been suggested and what I did was to have a separate itunes account specifically for Apple Music and use that for streaming only,, As I own all my music and only rely on Apple Music for the odd track I may get requested for, it works for me. I was a Spotify then Tidal user but have now switched to Apple Music.
Good video Phil. Beware anyone that might have regional restriction trouble. When I subscribed to Apple music it actually stopped me from playing some downloaded tracks in my library. Only way I could stop it was to unsubscribe.
OMG WHAT!? That's a MASSIVE DEALBREAKER. If you're touring and or you have iTunes/Apple Music accounts in more than one region this absolutely bricks the system and is a HARD NO GO.
I noticed, this morning, when I was analyzing a couple playlist in Apple Music, I got this notification when I tried to load a song ( Could not load track Access to file is temporarily not available. Error Code: 429) and for a couple minutes, I wasn’t able to load anything, until I guess it was doing whatever it was doing in the background of the software. So I guess, analyze all your music, and all your playlist, before your gigs, so you don’t get this notification, and you can’t play nothing.
Matched vs. Uploaded. DJ edits always get uploaded, so those specific versions will sync with your devices. The only issue I've seen with matched tracks is cue points being off by a few milliseconds.
Good to know that's your experience, I had too many times when this did not happen to trust it unfortunately. All they need is a "do not match" toggle on tracks, but I doubt Apple will ever add it.
@@digitaldjtips The only time a song is "Matched" is if it is exactly the same as the track available for streaming. If there's an intro, outro, or anything in between that makes it significantly different, it will upload, rather than match. I've loaded my entire DJ library into Apple Music and have been using it successfully for the past 6 months. The addition of streaming within DJay Pro is very welcome for how I have things set up.
Good night Phil, I have been following djay pro for more than a year now and I have finally decided that djay pro suits me well because I am a mobile dj that plays all genres, but I was wondering if the app is the same between the mac and pc, if not, what functions are different between them. Thanks Phil.
I was a bit distracted, but I believe you were concerned about how to keep things separate. Here's how I do it: I have two music libraries. One contains my local tracks from DJ pools, which I organize using Apple Music without the streaming service. The other library is for my Apple Music subscription, where I keep all my streaming songs. When I DJ, I load up my DJ library with only my local tracks. This allows me to keep them separate, as Djay Pro gives you an Apple Music option that bypasses the locally loaded library and gives me access to both libraries within the app and the second icon is for your locally loaded Apple Music Library. Hope that makes sense and helps.
I rember having djay since day 1 how everyone was talking about it. I had it because I had a ipad and was surgical with my iPad. Now look at djay and man a flx4 iPad and djay is incredible together.
I love this upgrade but I still have a huge struggle with the program. You still can't play songs that you downloaded for offline use through DJay, though you can in "music". There are still some venues that I DJ at that don't have wifi and I'm trying to avoid purchasing a wifi hotspot.
The great part of this is to take requests. I have a ton of music locally BUT there is always that one song that is in Apple music but I don't own that someone wants to hear.
@@digitaldjtips Always!! I be like I got everything and anything and then someone comes and is like "YOOOOO play that new Taylor Swift" and Im like noooooooooo!
To Workaround The Matching Feature Track Replacement. Store A Copy Of Your Library Or Files Before Turning On The Cloud Library. If It Replaces A Song You Just Add The One You Want Again And It Won’t Replace It Again. It Just Does It The First Time.
So make a duplicate of your itunes library, and if the track gets matched and replaced, reload the original from my duplicate library? Can this be done on the fly? or pre/post set only? My goodness this seems cumbersome.. I think im gonna steer clear until this bug is fixed...
To confirm my understanding, whatever the functions are called to create crates can work with locally created folders filled with MP3 files. Said functions would just evaluate that local collection of MP3 files and it doesn't have to be associated with any streaming service whatsoever. Is that correct? Also, I'm not a fan of the seven-day trial period. I feel like I need more time to evaluate whether it's suitable for my needs, but I'll check it out regardless.
Before you do a gig, you most likely want to download all your music, and get it arranged to how you wanna play it that night anyways. Having Internet at a club, is a plus, if you wanna add more to your set, but always be prepared before you do your set anyways.
We don’t think streaming should be seen as an either/or, but at the same time we think they should offer offline caching as some of the streaming services do
Can any one help for some reason my djay pro app will not let me record purchased music from iTunes as now it comes up with a notification that’s the tracks are being used from a streaming service I’ve made multiple recordings for some years now so now I don’t know what has changed and what I need to do to carry on recording
The match feature changing the version of my owned originals is a complete deal breaker. No neural mix and no record also make this a no go for me. What happens when you use the DJAY playlists? I prefer these because there is more filtering options including comments. Can apple music songs be added to DJAY playlists? Are they mixed with my own songs? How does that affect recording and neural mix? I turned an apple music 3 month trial on when I saw the notification but will be cancelling immediately after watching this.
@@digitaldjtips that’s a definite deal breaker for me and probably most DJs then. You can’t trust a wireless internet connection to work when you are at the venue
I'm curious - what's the value of this integration if you don't have access to stems? Is their thinking that they want DJs to be able to use them in sets as is but not necessarily to produce a remix? I'm a newb, so coming from a place of ignorance.
Hi everyone. I have Djay on my iPhone and MacBook. All of my music is on external SSD and I have the adapter to use this on my phone… and as a standalone system it works well using my own playlists that I’ve created inside Djay. However, even when using the same SSD and copying the djay library file manually between devices, music can not play. Playlists show up but all tracks (8000 of them) are greyed out and it says they can not be found. What is the best process for me to use? I don’t use any streaming but would considering using iTunes with my own locally stored music if it works.
Library is, for us, a weak point of djay. you can transfer the music from laptop to iPhone using Apple's Music app which is the preferred way, with a USB cable.
@@digitaldjtips thanks! If I can expand…. My music is on an SSD so won’t be transferring any files from MacBook to iPhone. I’ve just started (in the last hour) building playlists and importing music into ‘music’ on the MacBook. I’ve set it NOT to make copies of my music on the MacBook internal drive… only want to use ‘music’ as a library. Ok… so DJay on the MacBook instantly sees these playlists, great so far. Then I go onto my phone (the same SSD containing the music is connected) but the music app says there is nothing there. It seems I might need to tell the music app on my phone that I want to use the external storage…. Can anybody tell me how to do this? : ) All I want (if Apple Music / iTunes is the way to go)… is to build playlists on my MacBook that will work in Djay on the MacBook AND on my phone when I plug the same SSD into either device.
@@digitaldjtips I’ve just had a conversation with the guy who makes the ‘DJCU’ DJ conversion utility, and he’s confirmed that the IOS and MAC OS Djay library files are not compatible. So that at least means I don’t need to continue thinking it must be an issue with my file paths etc. His utility can convert IOS Djay library files to MAC Apple Music (iTunes) playlists but not the other way around… for anybody reading who is interested.
Two things… I think that we are fortunate that the embedded DRM did not disable stem use even if it is a song you own in your local library. Also, does toggling the library on and off enable allow you see see the playlists updated instead of restarting the app? I have found that to be a solution while using different libraries in Serato.
There are updates to Tidal's subscription tiers. For regular users, the Hi-Fi Plus tier is being eliminated, and its benefits will now be included in a single $10.99 per month Tidal tier. However, for those using Tidal for DJ purposes, there will be an additional $9 monthly charge. Former Hi-Fi Plus subscribers will continue to pay $19.99 per month, but those previously on the Hi-Fi tier using DJ software will now face an extra $9 monthly fee. Apple Music remains at $10.99 per month for now, giving it an advantage for DJay Pro users. It's worth pondering if other DJ apps will integrate Apple Music and whether Apple will introduce an additional DJ tier in response to label requirements or for added benefits.
You can but it is an all or nothing setting you do through your AppleID. Essentially, think parental controls and you turn on the explicit filter which blocks all explicit content. Another and much more tedious way is to tag your songs in some way Clean/Dirty and then use smart lists to ensure you have all clean music.
Can I send y'all my entire iTunes library and y'all tell me if y'all have all of them and will I be able to use them in RUclips videos I just need help licensing the songs I already have downloaded
How can I upload my DJ mixes to RUclips without copyright how do DJs get arrested copyright on RUclips in 2024 with the RUclips control id getting smart every day and I can't contact the artist directly because I don't have Instagram or Facebook all I have is email
Apple Music Integration is the feature that I really wanted. Unfortunately, there is a big drawback. Apple Music doesn't let me use Neural Mix in djay Pro. This really sucks.
Look, for me and my setup losing Spotify was a huge blow. Getting Apple Music is a huge step back in the right direction, no matter how sniffy Phil is about anything popular.
I love Apple Music, but that’s one thing Beatport does when it comes to DJ’s. Algorithm does tell you all that when you download it into its software, then you just arrange it from there.
By the way, pull the track list down to refresh the playlist worked OK for me. I was getting 504 error for a while though. Then I did have to restart the app. Teething troubles perhaps?
Record labels need to get it together. If you can’t play a song, no one can listen to it. Therefore, no buzz, hype, or interest in the song they spend thousands to promote.
fuck yes! I have been waiting for this ever since Spotify fucked all of us over when they banned every single DJ software from using their service. This is a massive update. This company just keeps innovating and setting themselves apart from everybody else.
Omg this file replacement is not acceptable. Big brother watching you. A streaming service that does not support stems is useless within a year, because stems is comparable to going from B&W TV to color TV.
It's not Big Brother, it's to save uploading and downloading millions of files that are identical - it's quite clever, or would be if 1) we weren't picky DJs and 2) it was 100% accurate. Agree about stems.
Wonder when they will stop coming up with ideas to squeeze your wallet, buy once, be happy, don't rely on streaming/subscription services, actually fight back against this scam and don't entertain the idea! get a decent Traktor bit of gear/controller, get the software included, one time payment, if you want stems you can use a free service and load them into your libary, buy your music, don't give them anymore more of your hard earned money!! you do not need anymore than what Ive mentioned to rock a night, play in your bedroom, the rest is absolute fluff! trust me, 25 years djing from vinyl, cd to laptop. Good luck people, don't be sheeples!
I agree with what you just said, but buying your music is part of the problem. Nobody has any drive to fight back. The average person is entertained to death and has been chemically poisoned by fluoride and other dangerous things that the globalists have put into the food and water to sterilize and control the population. I am sorry to have to report this to you, but it is the truth. Most people have no drive at all, and don't know anything about corporate control or Monopolies.
Just a warning for you guys with DJAY Pro- there are basically no library features in this program (very few). You need to use another program (like Apple music) in order to even do basic things- like make a playlist. Stunning for a "DJ" program in 2024 (not even sure it should call itself a "DJ" program if it can not make a playlist. Playlists have been a staple of DJ ing for decades now). All playlists have to be made elsewhere and imported. The DJ part of it and the midi maps are solid but it necessitates another program to be used to make playlists and library management (guess it is not "stand alone").
@@digitaldjtips still don't get the need? Don't get me wrong I think the modern dj equipment is brilliant . I learnt how to mix on a pair of Citronic cs300D belt drive turntables and a Tandy Realistic mixer. I just feel that relying on pulling your tunes from an invisable source in a cloud relient on a stable internet connection is a step I wouldn't be willing to take.
⚡ TIMESTAMPS ⚡
0:00 Intro
1:50 Djay Pro + Apple Music demo
3:16 Streaming service limitations
4:32 The "Local Music" workaround
6:02 iPhone integration
8:29 The biggest issue..
10:59 Final thoughts
Djay is the most under-rated DJ Software out there. There was a time when noone was streaming and then, boom, Djay had Spotify. When Spotify went away, then Tidal came on board. Everyone asked for DVS support and that changed the game when Djay introduced DVS support. Now we have Apple Support and the other goodies Djay announced. Nice work and truly innovaticve.
Definitely impressive how they've done this deal that appears to have evaded everyone esle...
Agree 100%. This nails a huge market need for consumers and elegantly supports the Apple ecosystem.
Ive only used Djay and dabbled with Serato. I used to feel guilty about not using Serato because “everyone” uses it. But i learned years ago to not gaf. Djay is user friendly and has all of the goodies that Serato has. I’m an apple guy and it’s beautiful to me.
And has BeatPort, BeatSource and SoundCloud support
Totally agreed. I used it exclusively from 2008 until now, but I did add VDJ to the stable last in 2023.
Long time Serato user here but I am loving what I see from Algoriddim djay pro and Apple Music integration. The fact that I can see my folders structure, smarplaylists and curated playlist the way I see it in iTunes is a big win. Their software has advanced tremendously as well.
That is definitely a huge selling point here
Great informative video, like always. Thank you Phil
you're welcome Carlos
I never thought I'd see the day of this happening. So glad I stuck to the Apple ecosystem.
Yeah, it seems a good thing for both Apple and djay.
This is really convenient for a complete beginner like me (literally got my first controller two days ago). I’ve been using apple music for years now and having access to my full library is amazing. I kid you not I was in the process of downloading a bunch of music when I read the djay apple music announcement so this couldn’t have come in a better time lol. Thanks for the video
You're welcome! It is exactly people like you, with month, years or even decades of music in iTunes (ie Apple Music) who I feel will truly benefit from this.
Thank you so much for making this video. 🙏🏾
You are so welcome!
I'm a long time user of itunes/Music and have gotten used to using a wire to sync my iPad music with my Mac. My iPhone is set to sync over Wi=Fi and that works just as well. I definitely don't use the Sync Library function in iTunes/Music because of the Apple Match feature. So far this has been the best work flow for me to keep my devices synced up. I will only use the Apple Music streaming platform to fill in the gaps and to get requests for songs I don't have stored locally just like I did with Tidal. I'm just very happy to now have access to Apple music in DJay Pro.
Yeah, even for that use and that use alone, it's great!
I’ve been really impressed with DJay and seeing this today is a nice bonus.
More toys to play with!
Since Spotify was gone in djay, this is a big one. Still prefer my own music downloaded, but when you do not have a song that you want to play, this is a great solution.
It is - a truly mainstream streaming service i a DJ app once again
Just tested quick and works !
Yeah, it's pretty amazing to see it in DJ software!
Great stuff.
Nice one Phil. Products like this are much needed pieces of the PRO DJ/Producer workflow. As a long time iTunes/Music user, and pro DJ/Producer, one of the biggest pains for me has been using iTunes/Music to try out mixes quickly. Now I can crate dig, Shazam, make playlists, etc…and do that on any device. Then if I want to sync to Beatport for downloads/WAVs, that’s been solved with “tunemymusic”. From there I can continue w/the typical pro flow for a studio mix, stream or live show w/ableton, DJ.studio, serato, rekordbox, etc…where I only want to manage relevant playlists. Party on freaks 🤙🏽😎🖤
Sounds like you're having a lot of fun embracing all the digital music tools there Wes!
@@digitaldjtips hahah for sure, it’s been years in the making, and part of that through your channel. Idk how anyone that presses the buttons would get anything done without an “integrated” workflow.
djay user and Apple Music subscriber here. This solves one major problem for me, which is that I was subscribing to Tidal for the month in advance ofgigs where I thought I might take requests. Now I can take requests with the streaming service I pay for anyway. Apart from that, no change anticipated; I will live in the local music tab, buy my music on the iTunes store, and use smart playlists and wire-based sync with my Mac and iPad to make sure I have my complete and updated library on both. I do use Cloud music library on my phone and Mac, where I’m not worried if Apple Music fails to sync the correct recording to my phone. It is no coincidence that this partnership was announced on the very day Apple Vision Pro hit the public. Apple Vision Pro is a locked-down system, like iOS but without the sync wire, so unless Apple was willing to let one of their premier partner apps encourage its users to subscribe to third-party music streaming services to experience augmented reality DJing, they needed this partnership.
Very good point regarding Apple Vision Pro.
Not letting Apple Music mess up my library again. Especially with that cloud matching replacing your versions of songs for theirs.
There is an option now I notice to stop it messing with your artwork and metadata, that wasn't there before, would be interested to know if anyone has experimented with that.
@@digitaldjtips It has never messed with my meta data. (mp3tags) Only thing itunes/music app does is resorting your tracks if you tick this option in preferences.
where is the option?@@digitaldjtips
I always download everything locally, but this is cool to see.
Good policy!
Works both ways so no problem. But at the end of the day this is targeted at the djs that are in the apple box so to speak and the future.
@@ItsWesSmithYo It works on Djay Pro for Windows as well.
Hi Phil, another fantastic video by the way. I'm wondering if the draw has been done for the big Give-away you announced a few weeks ago? The opus quad was a prize along with some other amazing products.
Yes, we announced it and published the winners!
having the Local and Music doubling playlist might come in handy in case there's no internet, at least u have a copy of your local tunes organized in the local playlists.
Good point, although there's absolutely no advantage to playing your own music from the cloud other than not having to switch tabs, and plenty of disadvantages.
I agree Phil… this Apple Music idea is the 1.0 version of them breaking into this. I hope they listen to the review. The upside when it’s right is huge! Appreciate the honest feedback.
As someone else said, it is probably a lot to do with Vision Pro too.
very good news, I was really looking forward to connecting this streaming)
but I would like you to implement the following features to work with Apple Music:
1) the ability to analyze tracks in playlists in advance, and not only when the track is loaded into the soundboard, as it is implemented with Tidal
2) the ability to use tracks downloaded to the Apple Music app on i Pad /i Phone or Mac
3) the choice of streaming quality as it is done with Tidal
4) offline mode Apple Music app
5) Neural mix
It would be really cool if you could decide which two decks that you’re controlling while in two deck mode. I’d love to have my laptop display decks 1&3 and for my iPad to show 2&4 or whatever. In the dropdown next to the deck selection that shows waveform controls, I feel like they could add a select deck button
Would be cool!
Not sure if this works with the Apple Music integration, but for other streaming services you can refresh playlists by pulling down from the top in the playlist listing section of playlists on the left
Yeah, you could well be right! Will give it a go :)
Wow!
Wow! This is the best news of this century for me. Yippee 🙌
Guess you're an Apple Music user right?
@@digitaldjtipsalmost @@digitaldjtips10,000@@digitaldjtips
@@digitaldjtips I replied extensively to this but couldn’t find it anywhere here. It only says “Highlighted Reply”. What happened, please?
@@digitaldjtips Absolutely, 100%! As an ardent Apple fan, my journey with graphic design dates back to the late '80s, reveling in the instant creativity of manipulating typography. As a creative individual, I seamlessly embraced Digital DJing when MP3s and related formats rose to prominence in the early 2000s. The evolution of technology allowed DJs to transition from vinyl and CD setups to digital files, offering unparalleled flexibility and accessibility.
Retiring from DJing about 14 years ago, I rediscovered the Djay app two years back, amazed by its transformation, especially with the groundbreaking neural mix integration. This innovation felt akin to the invention of wheels, signifying a transformative moment in the DJing world. Since then, I've returned to professional DJing, performing in Canada, the USA, Jamaica, and soon, Turkey.
My extensive use of iTunes and iPods since their inception has cultivated an almost expert knowledge of the Music app. I had hoped for integration with Djay Pro, and now, with access to over 10,000 songs I've saved over the years, my DJ software has become a treasure trove. However, the unfortunate limitation on neural mix capabilities poses a challenge to my preferred mixing technique. Also, the prospect of reverting DJ remixes to original versions is a bit disheartening. I'm actively seeking solutions and will share any breakthroughs for others to benefit.
Before I conclude, I must express my admiration. You're not only a trailblazer in the DJing world but also tirelessly dedicated, compassionate about DJing, and genuinely committed to helping people. Your teaching methods in the course I purchased are the epitome of easy-to-follow steps, facilitating perfection in learning. Thank you for your invaluable contributions!
I’m just messing with it but I’m glad something I already pay for has even more usefulness with this update.
One thing I’ve noticed with the free version is that automix is available on the iPhone but not on the desktop
Thanks for the feedback!
Phil, can you buy preview Beatport tracks? And will DJ software’s play them?
I love the fact that apple music is finally able to be used for dj’ing and I hope it comes to rekordbox and other dj softwares. But for now useing djay on my phone is a great way to pass the time in my class.
Yes!
Omg I’m just finding this out. Finally Apple Music.
love❤ from india.nice video
Thank you
I want to use Traktor for a live hybrid setup but this throws a spanner in the works.
Ha, because you'd rather have a play with this?
Good step forward
Yes!
What a great video! You answered most of my questions, that is problem that I have with Apple Music. Apple change all the music that I own and remixes, even covers I created. Don’t get me wrong DJ Pro is a great app, and I can lots of things with it. Also, you mentioned music services that you used, which is your favorite that you can get great remixes, and I taking about real dance music not R&B.
No single place, unfortunately, you have to shop around
Losing neural mix with tidal was pretty devastating to my mobile dj setup. I was hoping Apple Music would have it but if none of the streaming services do I might be stuck transferring tracks from my computer to my iPad
That would definitely work! It is still in SoundCloud, Beatport and Beatsource as far as we know... for now.
The work around that has been suggested and what I did was to have a separate itunes account specifically for Apple Music and use that for streaming only,,
As I own all my music and only rely on Apple Music for the odd track I may get requested for, it works for me.
I was a Spotify then Tidal user but have now switched to Apple Music.
Yeah that hack is one way to do it
Good video Phil. Beware anyone that might have regional restriction trouble. When I subscribed to Apple music it actually stopped me from playing some downloaded tracks in my library. Only way I could stop it was to unsubscribe.
Where in the world are you Luke?
@@digitaldjtips Australia. Tracks were legally downloaded from Beatport too.
OMG WHAT!? That's a MASSIVE DEALBREAKER. If you're touring and or you have iTunes/Apple Music accounts in more than one region this absolutely bricks the system and is a HARD NO GO.
I noticed, this morning, when I was analyzing a couple playlist in Apple Music, I got this notification when I tried to load a song ( Could not load track
Access to file is
temporarily not available.
Error Code: 429) and for a couple minutes, I wasn’t able to load anything, until I guess it was doing whatever it was doing in the background of the software. So I guess, analyze all your music, and all your playlist, before your gigs, so you don’t get this notification, and you can’t play nothing.
Good tip, thanks for sharing
How do o get into settings so I can login to my account??
Matched vs. Uploaded. DJ edits always get uploaded, so those specific versions will sync with your devices. The only issue I've seen with matched tracks is cue points being off by a few milliseconds.
Good to know that's your experience, I had too many times when this did not happen to trust it unfortunately. All they need is a "do not match" toggle on tracks, but I doubt Apple will ever add it.
@@digitaldjtips The only time a song is "Matched" is if it is exactly the same as the track available for streaming. If there's an intro, outro, or anything in between that makes it significantly different, it will upload, rather than match. I've loaded my entire DJ library into Apple Music and have been using it successfully for the past 6 months. The addition of streaming within DJay Pro is very welcome for how I have things set up.
@@digitaldjtips What you might try is to extend your special tracks to more that 1hr ( could be silence) than it should not match
@@djmavewave4794 same experience for me for several years now
Thanks Phil - i'm just about to ditch Tidal following "the announcement" - so Apple seems a good alternative.
No stems with Apple though
Good night Phil, I have been following djay pro for more than a year now and I have finally decided that djay pro suits me well because I am a mobile dj that plays all genres, but I was wondering if the app is the same between the mac and pc, if not, what functions are different between them.
Thanks Phil.
Mac is better than PC, the Windows and Android apps tend to lag behind features-wise.
I have to say, it works great with beatport on an Ipad. As far as maintaining playlist order and cues
Cool
I was a bit distracted, but I believe you were concerned about how to keep things separate. Here's how I do it: I have two music libraries. One contains my local tracks from DJ pools, which I organize using Apple Music without the streaming service. The other library is for my Apple Music subscription, where I keep all my streaming songs. When I DJ, I load up my DJ library with only my local tracks. This allows me to keep them separate, as Djay Pro gives you an Apple Music option that bypasses the locally loaded library and gives me access to both libraries within the app and the second icon is for your locally loaded Apple Music Library. Hope that makes sense and helps.
Nice thinking thanks for sharing your solution
A lot of comments/ questions regarding Match or whatever the heck Apple is calling it these days. Would like to see a follow-up vid in a few months :)
We should run a test
I rember having djay since day 1 how everyone was talking about it. I had it because I had a ipad and was surgical with my iPad. Now look at djay and man a flx4 iPad and djay is incredible together.
We’re in the club
Same with me, I always saw the potential in Djay
We even wrote a book about it back in the day
@@digitaldjtips bruv your channel has always been for the good of the peoples DJ. Keep it poppin 🤙🏽
I love this upgrade but I still have a huge struggle with the program. You still can't play songs that you downloaded for offline use through DJay, though you can in "music". There are still some venues that I DJ at that don't have wifi and I'm trying to avoid purchasing a wifi hotspot.
Yes, it is a drawback for sure.
My Apple music is not working on DJAY PRO AI no more it keeps saying could not find😢
TREMBLE
The great part of this is to take requests. I have a ton of music locally BUT there is always that one song that is in Apple music but I don't own that someone wants to hear.
Isn't that so often the case!
@@digitaldjtips Always!! I be like I got everything and anything and then someone comes and is like "YOOOOO play that new Taylor Swift" and Im like noooooooooo!
To Workaround The Matching Feature Track Replacement. Store A Copy Of Your Library Or Files Before Turning On The Cloud Library. If It Replaces A Song You Just Add The One You Want Again And It Won’t Replace It Again. It Just Does It The First Time.
So make a duplicate of your itunes library, and if the track gets matched and replaced, reload the original from my duplicate library?
Can this be done on the fly? or pre/post set only? My goodness this seems cumbersome..
I think im gonna steer clear until this bug is fixed...
From what I understand though you're only replacing the copy on your main device, but it won't put the correct copy on all your devices, will it?
@@digitaldjtips it does not replace anything on your drives. Worst thing could be a mismatch in the cloud
@@papi_roisterous It’s Better If You Do It Previously But Works Somewhat Fast.
@@digitaldjtips It’ll Do It. It’ll Push The Correct Track To The Other Devices.
To confirm my understanding, whatever the functions are called to create crates can work with locally created folders filled with MP3 files. Said functions would just evaluate that local collection of MP3 files and it doesn't have to be associated with any streaming service whatsoever. Is that correct?
Also, I'm not a fan of the seven-day trial period. I feel like I need more time to evaluate whether it's suitable for my needs, but I'll check it out regardless.
You can have your own music on this software too, yes
@@digitaldjtips Many thanks! Cheers.
Does this update make anymore controllers compatible? If not this is a blah update for me. Do I still need to use the shift button on my controller?
We agree, it's one of the big things we want from Algoriddim - treat controller compatibility as a ground zero item.
@@digitaldjtips in my experience works with all midi controllers.
I’ve always used iTunes/Apple Music for my music (from mp3s, CDs and purchased directly from Apple). But I stay awayyyy from Apple Music streaming.
Fair enough!
Can you download songs for when you don’t have internet connection
clues in the name streaming!
No
Are limited to the storage size of the ipad/iphone for apple music
Like 250,000 song capacity on a maxed iPad Pro 😂
My Apple Music playlist is not showing up..any idea?
update? or not logged into?
Im not fully in on this. Lots of places dont have a good enough internet connection to run seemingly. Until then i will keep downloading
Before you do a gig, you most likely want to download all your music, and get it arranged to how you wanna play it that night anyways. Having Internet at a club, is a plus, if you wanna add more to your set, but always be prepared before you do your set anyways.
We don’t think streaming should be seen as an either/or, but at the same time we think they should offer offline caching as some of the streaming services do
@@digitaldjtips Strange thing is in the Music app you can play downloaded tracks offline, but it seems they don't play in Djay.
Is the Apple Music integration compatible with external hardware (ddj rev 7)?
Yes, if the controller works with djay Pro.
Is the Apple Music integration lossless? Do the Apple Music tracks load and play in their lossless format?
Doubt it, it'll be 256 AAC is my guess.
Can any one help for some reason my djay pro app will not let me record purchased music from iTunes as now it comes up with a notification that’s the tracks are being used from a streaming service I’ve made multiple recordings for some years now so now I don’t know what has changed and what I need to do to carry on recording
That's because you're using iCloud to play them, you have to upload to your device and play the "old" way to record.
I really wish we could get neural mix back.
Yes, it is a shame it doesn't work with Apple Music
The match feature changing the version of my owned originals is a complete deal breaker. No neural mix and no record also make this a no go for me.
What happens when you use the DJAY playlists? I prefer these because there is more filtering options including comments. Can apple music songs be added to DJAY playlists? Are they mixed with my own songs? How does that affect recording and neural mix?
I turned an apple music 3 month trial on when I saw the notification but will be cancelling immediately after watching this.
No point cancelling immediately, give your three months a go and see how it is for you! Mine is only one voice.
So can I use Apple Music for the ddj200?
?
Does it allow you to cache/download the songs to your device so you don't have to stream your set?
No
@@digitaldjtips that’s a definite deal breaker for me and probably most DJs then. You can’t trust a wireless internet connection to work when you are at the venue
I'm curious - what's the value of this integration if you don't have access to stems? Is their thinking that they want DJs to be able to use them in sets as is but not necessarily to produce a remix?
I'm a newb, so coming from a place of ignorance.
If you want to use stems you just buy the track.
Cannot use stems anymore on the music i purchased that is in itunes
The video shows you how
I can. Even in mixed playlist in Djay that are composed of Apple streaming tracks and local tracks
Oh waiting for RUclips music to be added
Lots of people would love that for sure
Phil: Will this work on any controller?
Thanks!
Yes! Just not with Neural Mix
@@digitaldjtipsYou answered before I added your name, thank you!
Hi everyone.
I have Djay on my iPhone and MacBook. All of my music is on external SSD and I have the adapter to use this on my phone… and as a standalone system it works well using my own playlists that I’ve created inside Djay.
However, even when using the same SSD and copying the djay library file manually between devices, music can not play. Playlists show up but all tracks (8000 of them) are greyed out and it says they can not be found.
What is the best process for me to use? I don’t use any streaming but would considering using iTunes with my own locally stored music if it works.
Library is, for us, a weak point of djay. you can transfer the music from laptop to iPhone using Apple's Music app which is the preferred way, with a USB cable.
@@digitaldjtips thanks! If I can expand…. My music is on an SSD so won’t be transferring any files from MacBook to iPhone. I’ve just started (in the last hour) building playlists and importing music into ‘music’ on the MacBook. I’ve set it NOT to make copies of my music on the MacBook internal drive… only want to use ‘music’ as a library. Ok… so DJay on the MacBook instantly sees these playlists, great so far.
Then I go onto my phone (the same SSD containing the music is connected) but the music app says there is nothing there.
It seems I might need to tell the music app on my phone that I want to use the external storage…. Can anybody tell me how to do this? : )
All I want (if Apple Music / iTunes is the way to go)… is to build playlists on my MacBook that will work in Djay on the MacBook AND on my phone when I plug the same SSD into either device.
@@digitaldjtips I’ve just had a conversation with the guy who makes the ‘DJCU’ DJ conversion utility, and he’s confirmed that the IOS and MAC OS Djay library files are not compatible. So that at least means I don’t need to continue thinking it must be an issue with my file paths etc. His utility can convert IOS Djay library files to MAC Apple Music (iTunes) playlists but not the other way around… for anybody reading who is interested.
Can you use stems on Dj Pro?
Yes, of course
Two things…
I think that we are fortunate that the embedded DRM did not disable stem use even if it is a song you own in your local library.
Also, does toggling the library on and off enable allow you see see the playlists updated instead of restarting the app? I have found that to be a solution while using different libraries in Serato.
Stems are disabled with Apple Music for all music, owned and streamed. Didn't try toggling on and off but yeah, that'd probably work too - thanks!
Tidal deserves everything for playing hardnall...See ya!✌🏾
It's not Tidal, it's the record companies, and the same restrictions apply to Apple Music.
There are updates to Tidal's subscription tiers. For regular users, the Hi-Fi Plus tier is being eliminated, and its benefits will now be included in a single $10.99 per month Tidal tier. However, for those using Tidal for DJ purposes, there will be an additional $9 monthly charge. Former Hi-Fi Plus subscribers will continue to pay $19.99 per month, but those previously on the Hi-Fi tier using DJ software will now face an extra $9 monthly fee. Apple Music remains at $10.99 per month for now, giving it an advantage for DJay Pro users. It's worth pondering if other DJ apps will integrate Apple Music and whether Apple will introduce an additional DJ tier in response to label requirements or for added benefits.
Can you filter clean/explicit versions on apple streaming?
Good question, I am sure you can but not sure how.
You can but it is an all or nothing setting you do through your AppleID. Essentially, think parental controls and you turn on the explicit filter which blocks all explicit content. Another and much more tedious way is to tag your songs in some way Clean/Dirty and then use smart lists to ensure you have all clean music.
Can I send y'all my entire iTunes library and y'all tell me if y'all have all of them and will I be able to use them in RUclips videos I just need help licensing the songs I already have downloaded
No, of course you can't!
How can I upload my DJ mixes to RUclips without copyright how do DJs get arrested copyright on RUclips in 2024 with the RUclips control id getting smart every day and I can't contact the artist directly because I don't have Instagram or Facebook all I have is email
Apple Music Integration is the feature that I really wanted. Unfortunately, there is a big drawback. Apple Music doesn't let me use Neural Mix in djay Pro. This really sucks.
What is Stroke?
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Was working until 2 days ago.. error message is Forbidden error 403, anyone else experiencing this?
Maybe try again a bit later
I miss Spotify on it
One day we will all miss Spotify if they don’t start making a profit 😂
Look, for me and my setup losing Spotify was a huge blow. Getting Apple Music is a huge step back in the right direction, no matter how sniffy Phil is about anything popular.
Sniffy? Me?
No bpm data on Apple Music?
I love Apple Music, but that’s one thing Beatport does when it comes to DJ’s. Algorithm does tell you all that when you download it into its software, then you just arrange it from there.
Not until you’ve analysed the tracks
@@digitaldjtips I’m wondering if Apple would make a separate app for DJs, like it’s made a separate app for classical music.
On Apple Music meta data no, but dJay does it immediately on load so no big deal. It also basically mixes for you 😂
By the way, pull the track list down to refresh the playlist worked OK for me. I was getting 504 error for a while though. Then I did have to restart the app. Teething troubles perhaps?
Yeah, thanks to you and everyone else who pointed this out. I usually miss something obvious in these First Looks...
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Bummed there’s no stems, but I’d rather pay apple than tidal since they are adding service not taking stems away like tidal.
It's not Tidal, it's the record companies.
@@digitaldjtips fuck them too then!! They had my money but now they get notbingggggg 🤷♂️
Can’t use the stems tho
No, that's true
This is cool but the fact you can’t use stems is a huge drawback but cool nevertheless.
Yeah, agreed
No music videos from Apple music.
Good point actually, how cool would it be to have streaming music videos...
Naming the music apps "music" is really confusing
It is I agree 100%!
Record labels need to get it together. If you can’t play a song, no one can listen to it.
Therefore, no buzz, hype, or interest in the song they spend thousands to promote.
It is the same as it ever was though
Here is a link to the Vision Pro with DJay demo…
ruclips.net/video/ic_RVJ8CaqI/видео.htmlsi=E8iNjBlwlqffiaxM
Thanks
fuck yes! I have been waiting for this ever since Spotify fucked all of us over when they banned every single DJ software from using their service. This is a massive update. This company just keeps innovating and setting themselves apart from everybody else.
Spotify gets their punishment every 1/4 on the earnings calls, if that makes you feel any better 😂
It's definitely a coup for Djay
Amazing software but not reliable in clubs.. good for home parties… so many bugs ..
Care to share some of them with us?
💢💢💢IS THERE ANY PLACE I CAN HEAR YOUR MIXES💢💢💢
Mixcloud
As soon as they support the display on the DJM S11, I‘m giving algoriddim a shot.
But… no stems sadly…
No, becoming the norm in streaming I suspect
@@digitaldjtips stems is the future
@@digitaldjtips what about on Beatport?
Still no stems🥲
Omg this file replacement is not acceptable. Big brother watching you. A streaming service that does not support stems is useless within a year, because stems is comparable to going from B&W TV to color TV.
It's not Big Brother, it's to save uploading and downloading millions of files that are identical - it's quite clever, or would be if 1) we weren't picky DJs and 2) it was 100% accurate. Agree about stems.
Wonder when they will stop coming up with ideas to squeeze your wallet, buy once, be happy, don't rely on streaming/subscription services, actually fight back against this scam and don't entertain the idea! get a decent Traktor bit of gear/controller, get the software included, one time payment, if you want stems you can use a free service and load them into your libary, buy your music, don't give them anymore more of your hard earned money!! you do not need anymore than what Ive mentioned to rock a night, play in your bedroom, the rest is absolute fluff! trust me, 25 years djing from vinyl, cd to laptop. Good luck people, don't be sheeples!
Chill out boomer
That horse has bolted, 83% of music is listened to on streaming services nowadays. If you think it's a scam, great, but that is not the majority view.
Djay pro £25.99 for the year. Bargain I would say.
What an awful, awful take 🤦🏼♂️
I agree with what you just said, but buying your music is part of the problem. Nobody has any drive to fight back. The average person is entertained to death and has been chemically poisoned by fluoride and other dangerous things that the globalists have put into the food and water to sterilize and control the population. I am sorry to have to report this to you, but it is the truth. Most people have no drive at all, and don't know anything about corporate control or Monopolies.
Just a warning for you guys with DJAY Pro- there are basically no library features in this program (very few). You need to use another program (like Apple music) in order to even do basic things- like make a playlist. Stunning for a "DJ" program in 2024 (not even sure it should call itself a "DJ" program if it can not make a playlist. Playlists have been a staple of DJ ing for decades now). All playlists have to be made elsewhere and imported.
The DJ part of it and the midi maps are solid but it necessitates another program to be used to make playlists and library management (guess it is not "stand alone").
Thanks for your feedback Kenneth, this is a new way of doing it though, in the Music app
If you play a set you can then go to history and the playlist is there this was before this update so no sure if it still works will give it a try
You can certainly make playlists with MyCollection😂. It’s solid
Just tried it you play some tunes then look at sessions it then gives you the option to delete tracks and save to rename and save to sesions
My Collection works like a charm. Local music or streaming musics can be mixed in one playlist. You just had to explore and adapt to Apple ecosystem
This sounds pretty bad to be honest. Like a bit of a dumpster fire. And it's pretty much all Apple's fault I kind feel bad for Algoriddim
Well, it’s always been that way
Hey Klaus, can you be more specific about what you don't like about this, please?
@@djantona all the forced Apple integration, basically. Read DDTJs first impression article on it for more detsiled info on it
I don't get the whole streaming crap to DJ! a simple USB or Vinyl will suffice, much more reliable.
There is more than one way to be a DJ, and it's not an either/or.
@@digitaldjtips still don't get the need? Don't get me wrong I think the modern dj equipment is brilliant . I learnt how to mix on a pair of Citronic cs300D belt drive turntables and a Tandy Realistic mixer. I just feel that relying on pulling your tunes from an invisable source in a cloud relient on a stable internet connection is a step I wouldn't be willing to take.