Have to say after watching the video I decided to give the 1050 a shot. Absolutely a beautiful device. The interface is flawless and the screen is extremely easy to see in all lighting conditions.
Especially for those of us with flat aero bars. There are a few bells that can be mounted to them; but being able to trigger it with an electronic shifting button is 100%.
Yeah this is a massive step forward - lets face it a physical bell sucks - thats assuming you can get the damn thing in the right size to attach to your handlebars. And to have it map to shifters or whatever is 👌👌
Happy to hear that basically all the hardware new features will be available also for 40 series, honestly make no sense to upgrade just for a better screen (an maybe UI), but a lower battery performance. Happy with my 840, thanks for sharing buddy
The most I'm excited is the faster gradient algorithm calculation. I ride a lot of climbs and having faster gradient calculation would be a nice quality of life upgrade when doing climb pro on new climbs so I know in advance when a climb is gonna get steeper and pace myself better.
The video overlays you do of the devices to show them functioning are great. So useful to see things side by side or just zoomed in and clear, not trying to focus camera on the screens.
Thank You 1040 Solar has been amazing for the last 14 months. Insane battery life. As an ultra cyclist 600km and 1200km are worry-free regarding battery life.
Last year, my 9-year-old Garmin Edge 1000 was starting to fail. I found the new Garmin prices and went immediately into sticker shock. So I started looking at other brands, and it came down to the Wahoo and Karoo. Then in July 2023, Garmin offered the Edge 1030 plus on sale (Prime Day?) for $309.99. I bought it and absolutely love it!
Deal days are the best days to shop for the expensive cycling stuff :) I picked up a 1030 plus myself last Black Friday and have loved it. It does 98% of what a 1050 will do for a fraction of the price and the battery life is great!
But by now if you have an electronic gear set you can just program one of the hidden buttons to page scrolling, so it's not as big of a problem for a lot of users or you can buy the MTB remote which has a couple of buttons.
Is the Li-Ion battery replaceable in the 1050? Something that complies with upcoming right-to-repair requirements (EU, etc.) would be a BIG thing that would cause me to upgrade/switch! I'm getting so tired of disposable electronic gadgets that won't hold a charge after a few years...
That's one of the main reasons I look for super long battery life. Not because I am going to do 24 hour run/ride, but I want a battery that will easily get me through a 12 hour run/ride after 2 years.
@@aslam7952 I like your way of looking at battery life metric - total user experience vs. over expected ownership duration! This reminds me of electric car "range anxiety" as its batteries age. Something related that I think about is total cost of ownership. Even if a particular make/model price tag is $50 more initially, something that lasts one or more years longer due to better or replaceable batteries would make it a big winner for me.
@@aslam7952 battery life on garmin is great, my 4 year old 830 is still running 10-12h with all features enabled. But i will am looking now to upgrade to the 1050 for a larger screen and more features..
Thanks the the indepth review. I'll be reading the blogpost later. Staying with my 1040, which I'm very happy with. The few updates aren't enough for me to switch units.
Somehow...I still had to shout today when some young teenagers swerved the wrong way (to their credit, the older teenagers immediately chewed them out...).
Hi! I have bought this device, however I am having trouble with live segments, I have configured it with best accuracy yet I am seeing a difference of about 20s on the live segment with the Strava segment. I think this should be something that should be tested as well. Thanks for your reviews! Love your videos!
@@Rzarectehyou can get these features at the price point with the 540. If you want the big, bright, touchscreen with a speaker. Then you gotta shell out the extra $$$$.
That bike bell is dope! That warning is definitely impressive for sure! All the group ride features are pretty sick! Man I might just try and save the money and grab the 1050.
Missing Solar, could have stuck in this model rather than I can safely assume a future 1050 Solar. Plus, that hazard thing has clearly come from Waze, its brilliant for driving, especially here in pot-hole Britain. And great to see that it will work down to the 540 - I just bought that recently so great to see "older" devices getting some of the newer stuff where it makes sense.
Man I'm actually excited for when more people have bike bells integrated into the shifter. That's wonderful, I like my real bell but more people having bells is a really good thing. So many blind riders out there.
Garmin has been killing it recently, and I am a convert to the edge series. But to be honest what would make me upgrade from my x30 series to a new edge isn't a fancy screen, but if they could implement inReach functionality into the unit. I go on plenty of epic rides where there's no cell coverage, and carrying an inReach + edge kinda sucks. Now THAT would be something I'd pay top end iPhone money for.
Less battery also means lower longevity of the device since the battery is usually what gives up first. Double charging needs also means half lifespan of the battery
how often do you ride 20-30h? Let's say you ride 5h a day, and that is a lot and no one except of pros do this kind of volume. That gives you 4days worst case /p cycle. Now 4 days *500 cycles =2000days (do you cycle every single day?) to get to 80% of initial cpapcity and ~15h of battery life worst case. Your device will be long time obsolete before you will ruin your battery man :) Battery chemistry over time is another thing, but that's the same if you have 40h expected life or 20h so let's not dive into that right now.
Absolutely LOVE some of these new features. The ability to mark hazards/animals/whatever is really good. The challenges while in a group ride should really make things fun during group rides. I also love the fact that they've finally done something about the reaction time to gradients. So while I'll be sticking with my 540, I'll get some of those updates and that's good news. Thanks for another great review.
The group ride challenge feature - imagine a future were all riders in the race could see each other - better still if that could somehow be beamed to our tv screens that would complete the picture. An outdoor version of Zwift.
@@josecamara3975 I'm not sure why you would need to do that? Have you had an issue with getting a ticket on your bike? I've been to a lot of national parks and smaller local parks and I've never seen a park ranger with a radar gun. Not sure they even have the authority to write anyone a ticket.
@@BikepackingAdventures sounds like a @Dcrainmaker follow-up video is in order! Measuring the decibel readings at various distances between the new Garmin feature and other popular traditional bells, Spur, Knog, Hidemybell, etc. There is so much bell talk in the comments and I'm here for it.🛎🛎🛎
@@BJKeane-mc6bm I don't think Dcrainmaker should go as far as to make Decibel tests. I have a degree in acoustics, so of course I would find it interesting, but how are the viewers going to assert a decibel measurement? It probably would not be very usefull for most people. But I think it is a brilliant idea to make side by side comparison with other bells and maybe horns at different distances away from the camera and microphone. He could also go as far as to test it on a quiet road and in a busy city, to show the effect of background noise.
I think one point regarding the battery life is that after 2 years the battery power decreases quite a lot, at least in the computers I had (705,820,830) Have that in mind the battery life of the 1040 is a major advantage.
The topic of battery lifespan nobody talk, if I use this gps 150 days a year plus 8 hours per day...how much this battery last ? And Garmin replace batteries? at what cost ? or I need make diy ? or in 2 years time I need buy another expensive brick, because this premium gps device is burst ? I appreciate answers for this questions. Payments: I can not see the innovation to include payment on gps device, for what ? You need carry the same the smartphone...what is the clue ? Battery: The battery hours decrease from 1040, I think is normal, more bright screen...but in marketing what sell is not the battery...is the screen, function etc... Functions: I have some curiosity who use 75% of this functions in one ride, amateurs sport person's ? if so...if have amateur sport people use 75 or more this functions...is people care a lot of his body and his performance...in this case do not forget this gps is not performance friendly, weight × aerodinamics and so on... For last...how many professional cycling athletes go use this " BRIK* gps ?
I was recently in Connect planning a long ride into a rural area I wasn't familiar with. I saw a dog icon along one of the roads I was going to go. I found that super helpful... Wish I had a 1040 or 1050... Lol😊
I hope you could utilize the speaker via the dev APIs so you could make a custom ConnectIQ feature for it like you've mentioned. Maybe even allow custom recordings copied over via USB so you could have funny things like the belling being just screaming, or equivalent of "on your left/right" in other languages.
very good review (again) very appreciated, I do start wondering on whether people aren't to much distracted and look even more to the screen due to all these notifications . A worry that will proof itself as I bought one last week...
Big question for me is; Do Navigation and Routes actually work yet? It's very frustrating on an 830. 1) if you load a route, it offers to "navigate to start". If you pick yes, then it actually navigates you to seemingly the nearest waypoint anywhere on the route? Or maybe its that if the route it takes you on then touches the course at all, it flips to "route detected" and starts navigating you from the middle of the route. 2) If you start a route where the start and finish are the same place (a loop) and you start your ride, and maybe 500 meters in remember you forgot something in your car and go back, it now sees you are at the end and finishes your route. You have to restart the route to get navigation again. 3) If you have a route that crosses the same point multiple times (like a race that crosses the same water station a couple times by looping back to the same point) the navigation gets confused and will move you forward or backward in the overall route. In other words, if you have a 30mi route, and at 10mi and 20mi, you cross the same point, then when you get to the 20mi point in your ride, Garmin sometimes decides to start navigating you from the 10mi point instead. I basically haven't had a single successful navigation experience on my 830. Until Garmin makes basic nav work, and I can stop pulling my phone out of my jersey pocket to load Google Maps to see where I actually am, I don't think upgrading is going to be worth it.
As opposed to me... After much analysis paralysis and contemplation, I finally bot a 1040 less than 3 weeks ago, and now it's obsolete! (Not really "obsolete", but...)
I struggle to find a need for most of the features. It's neat and all but I only use.my computer for power data, time and sometimes Navigation. I want the best version of that with a big battery
You might have not had any routing issues, but my edge 1000 still gives a shorter, better route most of the time for me, near guilford and new haven, CT for example. A 15.6mi ride to the train station is at least 21mi on the 1040. Also took the 1000 and the 1040 (23.10 fw) on a ride, recalculations also do the same, always extra distance. It feels like it wants to avoid higher traffic roads, no matter what settings I try.
This is great, no lag... Thanks..For me would be the pay feature, since my phone never last and sometimes I forget to replenish that 10$ in the saddle or charge that portable battery..
Glad to see they are still supporting the x40 series and still stays around. In fact, it kind of looks like the 1050 has the same code base, just with a prettier UI on top of it.
The Garmin Pay feature would have been great when I got dropped on a group ride. I never carried my phone and didn't have a way to pay for a drink on my long ride back. This feature is way more useful than people realize for certain cyclists.
I was waiting for the 1050 and your review to choose between th Karoo3 and the 1050. I'm still wondering but Garmin apparently hasn't change their really bad maps. I think the price difference is not justified to go for the Garmin, and even more for mtb ... 🤔
I'm pretty excited with the faster gradient calculation coming down to the X40 series as well. Would really appreciate that as I ride climbs quite often.
faster to change, yes. you won't be seeing positive grades for 4s into the descent, but with that also comes overshoots in the estimation, and could display as much as 4% higher grade than actual, depending on how quickly the slope changes. GPLama video shows it well.
My 840S now seems obsolete. Still prefer the smaller form factor. Another solid review Ray 👍🏻@10:44 I see the two parallel red lines on the climb profile field. I see the same thing on my Edge 840S. What are those?
I would pay extra for a dedicated bell button on the Garmin unit itself! They could also make it similar to the watches and have a small LED flashlight at the top of the device. Press and hold the button to turn on/off and single press for bell.
I came to the 1040 a month ago, from the Edge 540. I miss buttons! The interface is not super brilliant and I am surprised there are not more buttons on this. The edge 840 got buttons. I think the battery life is a good compromise, if you're a long distance rider, go for the 1040. I'm happy with my 1040 having bought it at £230 under the list price of this new unit.
I have had three wahoo roams. 1st i purchased and two were warranty replacements. Now my 3rd roam is getting cross-talk from other computers on group rides, causing erratic speed readings. I am considering the 1050 to replace my wahoo roam.
Lucky you we can't get out on UK with the Rain just now certainly not hot here lol more autumn weather in summer it's crazy! I just spent 5k on a new bike and been out once on it because of the weather, it's thay bad here!
@Dmitryzakharov agree. It's more nice to have than must have. This Ui is only in the starting page. Main screen during the ride needs to be simple to read
Why is garmin not optimizing font data size so the entire data window is used ? And why do they write data labels like « heart rate» so big in each window instead of just using a customizable size symbol like ❤️ or unit km/h °C or % ?
Average speed on my 1050 is way off. After 3-4 rides, the average speed that’s showing on the unit is way off. It’s very low. Sometimes, it’s showing 10mph average but after the ride and it after it uploads to Strava, it fixes the issue. Garmin connect still showing lower avg speed. Thoughts?
next feature development in garmin devices will be that you can change the "bike bell" audio to "zwift ride on" shout 😀Hazard report is pretty usefull!
shape/looks is one thing, but to shift the main interface location, thereby creating misc compatibility issues seems counter intuitive if you want to be the defacto standard in bike computers. any videos comparing the locations to see how much it really is?
19:27 The Garmin 1050 shows a slow climb where four other devices do not (roughly from "1:20:09--1:40:09" in the graph). You sound overenthusiastic to me, overall, as in lacking the willingness to call out shortcomings explicitly without making excuses for them. How is Garmin supposed to improve products, if everything is great, even when it isn't quite great? Thanks, though, for all the useful graphs and information in general.
Honest question, what is the point of having the “best” display colors and resolution if it has a ton of glare when riding outdoors? I had an 1030 and the screen glare was a headache. Moved to Roam V2 and is just amazing to look at something with no glare.
Thanks for the great video reviews as always. That dj track in the beginning that cuts in and out does not work well at all on top of someone speaking.
Regarding screen brightness, this is not a cell phone, you only look at your bike computer for a fraction of your ride duration. So, nice yes but not so important, plus it bumps up the price and decreases battery life.
High screen brightness is important if you want to be able to view the vivid colours of the display in bright sunlight. I guess it's the same argument you have on the Fenix 7 versus the Epix 2, you can go with the Fenix if you want long battery and do not care so much for a good looking display, or you take the Epix if you want a really dam good looking display and don't mind that you need to charge it more often.
Is it finally possible to associate a specific equipment (such as a bicycle or running shoes) to a specific activity so that you don’t have to keep changing equipment post ride when you do a MTB ride and your default bike is the road one?
Still happy with my 830. Just like with their watches I feel you need to wait more than a couple of years and newer models to before its worth it to upgrade
Does the mapping/routing function on the connect website reflect the surface type going forward? When should we expect to see the new factions come to the 1040? My 1040(and I will assume the 1050) touch screen is absolutely terrible when my hands have been coated in sunscreen. Buttons would have been nice.
Hey DC, any idea if the Computer/Watch/Connect integration is fixed with this new gen? The x40 offers a bug where calories recorded and imported to Connect are superseded by a garmin watch, and I (and other x40 users) have never gotten accurate calorie data in Connect when also using a watch with Connect. Which renders training readiness features, and much of the ecosystem, useless. The line from Garmin for 1.5 years is “we’re working on it”. Can you shed any light on this?
Seeking advice here: i was looking for a 1040 and now i discovered that the 1050 was presented. I'm not a pro, i will use it for gravel/mtb (95% of the time gravel). I find the 1040 at 465€ delivered next week and the 1050 at 749.99€ delivered maybe in 3-5 week (minimum). Suggestion?
Did you also test the charging time? I wasn't able to hear/find in your review but would very curious to learn how long it takes to charge from 0 to 100%.
I don't necessarily care if the computer is all that responsive or not. I have never really needed to cruise through the menus in the middle of my ride. But, the UI of the menus needs to come to older models. I'm running the 830 and it feels like I need a cartography degree to successfully navigate through the menus on it.
Do you have any opinions about the edge remote? I use the discontinued remote, which is wearing out. It's useful for me but and not sure how much longer it will last. The new one is for ebikes and doesn't work the same. Not sure why garmin discontinued it. It has a screen change button, lap button, and a programmable button. The new one does not have all these features.
@dcrainmaker - can you elaborate on the firmware tickle down part? Your table with the comments is saying that for the share feature as well as for the new gradient algorithm it’s unlikely to tickle down … but in the video you are showing a 1050 and a 840 sharing a track.
@@Dcrainmaker ah - then I did understand it exactly the false way. :) thanks for clarification! Garmin really seems to be upping their game in terms of software over the past 2 years - quiet like it.
Verry nice computer, this week I will have my first ride with it. Great bell function. Be aware when you have a specialized bike with Roval earo bar, when using the Garmin mount, it is pretty close to mount you gamin edge 1050, you can not use a safety cover, I hope ther will be a long mount for the roval aero bar.
imagine riding in a fondo, and in a few years instead of the beeping we would all hear voices of starting segment, turn right, etc. Kind of like it and kind of hate it.
Is that really an issue, you can get the notification from ‚your‘ Garmin Varia quiet during a group ride, at least if you want to ride with that group more frequently. So I guess you can get the 1050 silent as well.
@@saschapeter5882 Yes, I have all the notifications without the beep. But I was thinking in a few years ahead when all the Edge and Wahoo's will have this feature.
I see that you have the option on the 1050 of vocal alerts for navigation to be on the computer or you can change it to your phone. Will the vocal alerts be an option to your phone from the 1040 solar in a software update?
DC, if your going to eurobike this year and see Garmin can you ask about the Varia Front headlight? It’s been 7yrs and no updates. Also any possibility of a 1050 solar?
Dear @DC Rainmaker: can you please check in the 1050 AXS sensors settings, what are the current functions which can be assignment to AXS extra button control? it remains same as for .x40 series, or are there some more option for the extra button control via shifters? thanks in advanced
Does the hazard marking show-up in the activity's .fit file? I'm thinking about the usefulness of being able to send/export the gps file to trail maintenance folks to note the location of downed trees.
Thank you for the video 🙂 Have a question: It's not possible to use the Navigation Search Bar to search for an address in the Garmin Edge 1050 - the system says: "No Results Found". If anyone knows how to solve this problem please tell 🙂 It takes time to move the map around to find a location instead of just type the address.
Ray, does the rider alert/hazard option allow riders to note changes to the surface? I ride a lot in northern Virginia and often the routes on RideWithGPS are badly wrong - imagine making a short sharp descent over a creek and all the sudden it's unexpectedly gravel. Oof! Happens a lot
Hi I’m short before buying a new Garmin 1050 device. But I guess I need a new mount therefore. Currently I’m using a K-Edge K13-2500IC combined with GoPro mount. Do you know is this one for aero cockpits still usable? Or what can u recommend?
What I don’t understand is why it’s not possible to select a course and ride it in the other direction ( start become finish end finish start), you have to go to the app for that and resync the route from the app? With a fenix you can do this on the watch, why not on the edge? Thanks
how is the experience using this computer pair with wahoo kickr smart trainer? is that possible to share any experience with loaded route for training indoor? thanks in advance 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️
For the record, he did in fact let me win :) Beers were on me 🍻
by 1 minute? that's not letting you win. That is bonked legs ;-)
Have to say after watching the video I decided to give the 1050 a shot. Absolutely a beautiful device. The interface is flawless and the screen is extremely easy to see in all lighting conditions.
how are you finding the potential weak point: battery life?
Absolutely no issue.
I have to change my radar anyway.
Have to say the Di2 hood button is perfect for the bell.
Why do people complain about battery life, how many people complaining ride over 20 hours in one ride..........
That bell option is SO smart. I always ride with a bell but hate the look and clutter they bring to my otherwise clean/integrated cockpit.
Hidemybell
Especially for those of us with flat aero bars. There are a few bells that can be mounted to them; but being able to trigger it with an electronic shifting button is 100%.
We've been asking for this feature for years! I wouldn't give Garmin credit for smartness, but their choice to implement the feature.
Yeah this is a massive step forward - lets face it a physical bell sucks - thats assuming you can get the damn thing in the right size to attach to your handlebars. And to have it map to shifters or whatever is 👌👌
closethegap - hide my
bell :) love mine
Happy to hear that basically all the hardware new features will be available also for 40 series, honestly make no sense to upgrade just for a better screen (an maybe UI), but a lower battery performance. Happy with my 840, thanks for sharing buddy
Admit it, you’ll be upgrading because of the bell…
Not really tbh, I’m about doubtful about the volume of the bell, and it’s more satisfying to just yell at the offending person obstructing your way.
The most I'm excited is the faster gradient algorithm calculation. I ride a lot of climbs and having faster gradient calculation would be a nice quality of life upgrade when doing climb pro on new climbs so I know in advance when a climb is gonna get steeper and pace myself better.
The video overlays you do of the devices to show them functioning are great. So useful to see things side by side or just zoomed in and clear, not trying to focus camera on the screens.
love the double wrist "I wear my wearable 24/7" marks 😂🎉😊
The double wrist "new watches on the way" marks
Thank You 1040 Solar has been amazing for the last 14 months. Insane battery life. As an ultra cyclist 600km and 1200km are worry-free regarding battery life.
Yeah, same here. If they were to get rid of the solar, they should've made a device with minimal bezels. Looks like an old device already…
@@EmmanuelNataf 🥲
Whats funny i get 1000ks out of my 830 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Last year, my 9-year-old Garmin Edge 1000 was starting to fail. I found the new Garmin prices and went immediately into sticker shock. So I started looking at other brands, and it came down to the Wahoo and Karoo. Then in July 2023, Garmin offered the Edge 1030 plus on sale (Prime Day?) for $309.99. I bought it and absolutely love it!
Deal days are the best days to shop for the expensive cycling stuff :) I picked up a 1030 plus myself last Black Friday and have loved it. It does 98% of what a 1050 will do for a fraction of the price and the battery life is great!
Except 30 series don't get updates anymore. Abandoned by garmin
But will the 840 get them? And how long?
@@deDANIEL11609yes. For a few more years I suspect.
Cool story bro. Totally relevant to talk about the 30 series in a 50 series video
I completely agree with your comment about not having buttons. Seems an odd ommission.
But by now if you have an electronic gear set you can just program one of the hidden buttons to page scrolling, so it's not as big of a problem for a lot of users or you can buy the MTB remote which has a couple of buttons.
@Maxwaehrens Still much better to just put buttons on it like the 840, Wahoo, Karoo. And Shimano 12 speed MTB is still mostly mechanical.
Is the Li-Ion battery replaceable in the 1050? Something that complies with upcoming right-to-repair requirements (EU, etc.) would be a BIG thing that would cause me to upgrade/switch! I'm getting so tired of disposable electronic gadgets that won't hold a charge after a few years...
That's one of the main reasons I look for super long battery life. Not because I am going to do 24 hour run/ride, but I want a battery that will easily get me through a 12 hour run/ride after 2 years.
@@aslam7952 I like your way of looking at battery life metric - total user experience vs. over expected ownership duration! This reminds me of electric car "range anxiety" as its batteries age.
Something related that I think about is total cost of ownership. Even if a particular make/model price tag is $50 more initially, something that lasts one or more years longer due to better or replaceable batteries would make it a big winner for me.
I bet it'll have micro usb
@@aslam7952 battery life on garmin is great, my 4 year old 830 is still running 10-12h with all features enabled. But i will am looking now to upgrade to the 1050 for a larger screen and more features..
GPLama said USB C
Thanks the the indepth review. I'll be reading the blogpost later. Staying with my 1040, which I'm very happy with. The few updates aren't enough for me to switch units.
I liked the very quick mention at 14:50, "over the summer on existing watches, etc"!!! EPIX 3 coming soon? :-)
I'm upgrading from the edge 800 to this! Excited! I have the Garmin EPIX gen 2, but gps maps are kind of slow for navigating while bicycle touring.
Finally, a Bell without a Bell. No more shouting 😅
Somehow...I still had to shout today when some young teenagers swerved the wrong way (to their credit, the older teenagers immediately chewed them out...).
This is the feature I didn’t know I wanted.
I already have that. With my DT Swiss Ratchet Hub😂
I have an Edge 1040 Solar and want that freaking bell!
If it could quickly connect on all Bluetooth devices in front of you, it would be perfect 👍
Hi! I have bought this device, however I am having trouble with live segments, I have configured it with best accuracy yet I am seeing a difference of about 20s on the live segment with the Strava segment. I think this should be something that should be tested as well.
Thanks for your reviews! Love your videos!
The added features are amazing but the price tag is a jaw dropping for me.
What’s a good price point you reckon for the 1050?
@@ariffauIt’s gotta be less than $350 for what you get. Compare it to almost any tech device, the markup on these must be insane.
@@Rzarecteh I think brands like Bryton, Magene and IGPSports make computers at that price point. What do you currently use? 😄
@@Rzarectehyou can get these features at the price point with the 540. If you want the big, bright, touchscreen with a speaker. Then you gotta shell out the extra $$$$.
That bike bell is dope! That warning is definitely impressive for sure! All the group ride features are pretty sick! Man I might just try and save the money and grab the 1050.
Missing Solar, could have stuck in this model rather than I can safely assume a future 1050 Solar.
Plus, that hazard thing has clearly come from Waze, its brilliant for driving, especially here in pot-hole Britain. And great to see that it will work down to the 540 - I just bought that recently so great to see "older" devices getting some of the newer stuff where it makes sense.
Still baffled Garmin refuses to include mobile internet modems in their devices...
That hazard thing is utterly useless on a bike. First thing I turned off once it arrived on my 1040/840 through an update.
Man I'm actually excited for when more people have bike bells integrated into the shifter. That's wonderful, I like my real bell but more people having bells is a really good thing. So many blind riders out there.
Noise cancelling headphone wearing pedestrians will still ignore you as per usual.
@@edthelizzard Yeah but no more grumpy old farts "where's your bell!?"
@@BikepackingAdventuresyou don’t need a bell lol, you can just yell at them to get their attention.
@@87togabitolegal requirement here with explicit voice doesn’t count as device. Fines are rare though.
@@87togabito yeah definitely preferred here in the UK, but as time passes, people will stop be such clowns and respect the bell, eventually
Garmin has been killing it recently, and I am a convert to the edge series.
But to be honest what would make me upgrade from my x30 series to a new edge isn't a fancy screen, but if they could implement inReach functionality into the unit. I go on plenty of epic rides where there's no cell coverage, and carrying an inReach + edge kinda sucks. Now THAT would be something I'd pay top end iPhone money for.
Less battery also means lower longevity of the device since the battery is usually what gives up first. Double charging needs also means half lifespan of the battery
If only it was so simple… battery chemistry can’t be ignored.
how often do you ride 20-30h? Let's say you ride 5h a day, and that is a lot and no one except of pros do this kind of volume. That gives you 4days worst case /p cycle. Now 4 days *500 cycles =2000days (do you cycle every single day?) to get to 80% of initial cpapcity and ~15h of battery life worst case.
Your device will be long time obsolete before you will ruin your battery man :)
Battery chemistry over time is another thing, but that's the same if you have 40h expected life or 20h so let's not dive into that right now.
Audax
@@ray076NL Grab a power bank. If you're doing an Audax you probably don't mind the extra weight...
@@Maxwaehrens 100 %
Absolutely LOVE some of these new features. The ability to mark hazards/animals/whatever is really good. The challenges while in a group ride should really make things fun during group rides. I also love the fact that they've finally done something about the reaction time to gradients. So while I'll be sticking with my 540, I'll get some of those updates and that's good news. Thanks for another great review.
The group ride challenge feature - imagine a future were all riders in the race could see each other - better still if that could somehow be beamed to our tv screens that would complete the picture. An outdoor version of Zwift.
I see a waze-like use to mark down park rangers with radar guns, too.
@@josecamara3975 I'm not sure why you would need to do that? Have you had an issue with getting a ticket on your bike? I've been to a lot of national parks and smaller local parks and I've never seen a park ranger with a radar gun. Not sure they even have the authority to write anyone a ticket.
I own the 1040. Is it weird that to me the most compelling feature here is the shifter-triggered bell? I'd actually use that a fair amount.
Nope, thats a really compelling feature right there - certainly got my attention. Of course how loud is it out on the road?
@@BikepackingAdventures sounds like a @Dcrainmaker follow-up video is in order! Measuring the decibel readings at various distances between the new Garmin feature and other popular traditional bells, Spur, Knog, Hidemybell, etc. There is so much bell talk in the comments and I'm here for it.🛎🛎🛎
@@BJKeane-mc6bm I don't think Dcrainmaker should go as far as to make Decibel tests. I have a degree in acoustics, so of course I would find it interesting, but how are the viewers going to assert a decibel measurement? It probably would not be very usefull for most people.
But I think it is a brilliant idea to make side by side comparison with other bells and maybe horns at different distances away from the camera and microphone. He could also go as far as to test it on a quiet road and in a busy city, to show the effect of background noise.
@@BJKeane-mc6bmlove my Spurcycle. Rings for ages
If you have a 1040 you definitely don't need a 1050 for a bell… come on guys.
Convinced me to buy! Excited to learn all the features and customize the screens to my liking.
Dang, part of me wants to go in on this, but my Roam v2 just works and the simplicity is refreshing.
I think one point regarding the battery life is that after 2 years the battery power decreases quite a lot, at least in the computers I had (705,820,830) Have that in mind the battery life of the 1040 is a major advantage.
The topic of battery lifespan nobody talk, if I use this gps 150 days a year plus 8 hours per day...how much this battery last ? And Garmin replace batteries? at what cost ? or I need make diy ? or in 2 years time I need buy another expensive brick, because this premium gps device is burst ? I appreciate answers for this questions.
Payments: I can not see the innovation to include payment on gps device, for what ? You need carry the same the smartphone...what is the clue ?
Battery: The battery hours decrease from 1040, I think is normal, more bright screen...but in marketing what sell is not the battery...is the screen, function etc...
Functions: I have some curiosity who use 75% of this functions in one ride, amateurs sport person's ? if so...if have amateur sport people use 75 or more this functions...is people care a lot of his body and his performance...in this case do not forget this gps is not performance friendly, weight × aerodinamics and so on...
For last...how many professional cycling athletes go use this " BRIK* gps ?
I was recently in Connect planning a long ride into a rural area I wasn't familiar with. I saw a dog icon along one of the roads I was going to go. I found that super helpful... Wish I had a 1040 or 1050... Lol😊
Great review Ray, mine arrives tomorrow. Looks like lots of fun!
Can you program the bell to say “On Your Left!”? 😊
Yeah was just thinking it needs custom bell sounds. hehe
I hope you could utilize the speaker via the dev APIs so you could make a custom ConnectIQ feature for it like you've mentioned. Maybe even allow custom recordings copied over via USB so you could have funny things like the belling being just screaming, or equivalent of "on your left/right" in other languages.
@@ryoukokonpaku1575 or farting like a Tesla vehicle...
very good review (again) very appreciated, I do start wondering on whether people aren't to much distracted and look even more to the screen due to all these notifications . A worry that will proof itself as I bought one last week...
I'm buying this just for the bell :D. Love it!
Big question for me is; Do Navigation and Routes actually work yet? It's very frustrating on an 830.
1) if you load a route, it offers to "navigate to start". If you pick yes, then it actually navigates you to seemingly the nearest waypoint anywhere on the route? Or maybe its that if the route it takes you on then touches the course at all, it flips to "route detected" and starts navigating you from the middle of the route.
2) If you start a route where the start and finish are the same place (a loop) and you start your ride, and maybe 500 meters in remember you forgot something in your car and go back, it now sees you are at the end and finishes your route. You have to restart the route to get navigation again.
3) If you have a route that crosses the same point multiple times (like a race that crosses the same water station a couple times by looping back to the same point) the navigation gets confused and will move you forward or backward in the overall route. In other words, if you have a 30mi route, and at 10mi and 20mi, you cross the same point, then when you get to the 20mi point in your ride, Garmin sometimes decides to start navigating you from the 10mi point instead.
I basically haven't had a single successful navigation experience on my 830. Until Garmin makes basic nav work, and I can stop pulling my phone out of my jersey pocket to load Google Maps to see where I actually am, I don't think upgrading is going to be worth it.
I was out for a ride earlier today, during which I contemplated upgrading my Edge 830. It seems fate is guiding me.
As opposed to me... After much analysis paralysis and contemplation, I finally bot a 1040 less than 3 weeks ago, and now it's obsolete!
(Not really "obsolete", but...)
I struggle to find a need for most of the features. It's neat and all but I only use.my computer for power data, time and sometimes Navigation. I want the best version of that with a big battery
Dear Garmin, I’m always impressed with the cool new features you come up with but how about weather overlays on your maps?
wind and radar would be cool, maybe temps
Oooohyeaaah so it is out finally! 20 hrs is plenty battery life for me. Means about 5-6 rides. More than enough. Bike bell-absolutely LOVE IT!
I just bought one and I really like it
You might have not had any routing issues, but my edge 1000 still gives a shorter, better route most of the time for me, near guilford and new haven, CT for example. A 15.6mi ride to the train station is at least 21mi on the 1040. Also took the 1000 and the 1040 (23.10 fw) on a ride, recalculations also do the same, always extra distance. It feels like it wants to avoid higher traffic roads, no matter what settings I try.
This is great, no lag... Thanks..For me would be the pay feature, since my phone never last and sometimes I forget to replenish that 10$ in the saddle or charge that portable battery..
Imagine my surprise seeing Longmont trails come up in your video!
Glad to see they are still supporting the x40 series and still stays around. In fact, it kind of looks like the 1050 has the same code base, just with a prettier UI on top of it.
And with that my 1030 Plus is now officially a relic. though a fully functional relic, for me at least.
“Globally it’s hot as …. Right now”. Correction: Hemispherically it might be hot right now. Greetings from down under. Cheers for the review Ray
The Garmin Pay feature would have been great when I got dropped on a group ride. I never carried my phone and didn't have a way to pay for a drink on my long ride back. This feature is way more useful than people realize for certain cyclists.
Gawd Damn Garmin! I just bought a 1040 a week ago!
I was waiting for the 1050 and your review to choose between th Karoo3 and the 1050. I'm still wondering but Garmin apparently hasn't change their really bad maps. I think the price difference is not justified to go for the Garmin, and even more for mtb ... 🤔
I'm pretty excited with the faster gradient calculation coming down to the X40 series as well. Would really appreciate that as I ride climbs quite often.
faster to change, yes. you won't be seeing positive grades for 4s into the descent, but with that also comes overshoots in the estimation, and could display as much as 4% higher grade than actual, depending on how quickly the slope changes. GPLama video shows it well.
My 840S now seems obsolete. Still prefer the smaller form factor. Another solid review Ray 👍🏻@10:44 I see the two parallel red lines on the climb profile field. I see the same thing on my Edge 840S. What are those?
I would pay extra for a dedicated bell button on the Garmin unit itself!
They could also make it similar to the watches and have a small LED flashlight at the top of the device.
Press and hold the button to turn on/off and single press for bell.
Mine is arriving tomorrow!!
I came to the 1040 a month ago, from the Edge 540. I miss buttons! The interface is not super brilliant and I am surprised there are not more buttons on this. The edge 840 got buttons.
I think the battery life is a good compromise, if you're a long distance rider, go for the 1040.
I'm happy with my 1040 having bought it at £230 under the list price of this new unit.
Not sure what 1040 you've got but my 1040 has three buttons! The same as the Edge 810 it replaced. I wouldn't want anymore myself.
I have had three wahoo roams. 1st i purchased and two were warranty replacements. Now my 3rd roam is getting cross-talk from other computers on group rides, causing erratic speed readings. I am considering the 1050 to replace my wahoo roam.
11:12 stopping next to a Scaled Agile sponsor sign seems somehow the most DC Rainmaker thing ever. The perfect melding of tech and fitness. … sorta.
Lucky you we can't get out on UK with the Rain just now certainly not hot here lol more autumn weather in summer it's crazy! I just spent 5k on a new bike and been out once on it because of the weather, it's thay bad here!
I hope this UI will be added to 840. Garmin did a great job with this device changing design and UI plus some extra features. Great review as always!
Usually during the ride you don't need to have a great UI, the simple the better.
@Dmitryzakharov agree. It's more nice to have than must have. This Ui is only in the starting page. Main screen during the ride needs to be simple to read
Why is garmin not optimizing font data size so the entire data window is used ? And why do they write data labels like « heart rate» so big in each window instead of just using a customizable size symbol like ❤️ or unit km/h °C or % ?
I second this. On my 1030+ my kcal field showed nothing after passing into 5 digits. Presumably because the numbers did not fit.
I thought your review didn't arrive hehe..
I like it! I think change my karoo2 for this
exactly my response! After that lukewarm K3 release
Does the 1050 fit in an aero mount at a Canyon Aeroad stem? It seems well longer than other Edges…
Are there any new graphical data fields (or improved old ones) that utilize the higher resolution?
Average speed on my 1050 is way off. After 3-4 rides, the average speed that’s showing on the unit is way off. It’s very low. Sometimes, it’s showing 10mph average but after the ride and it after it uploads to Strava, it fixes the issue. Garmin connect still showing lower avg speed. Thoughts?
next feature development in garmin devices will be that you can change the "bike bell" audio to "zwift ride on" shout 😀Hazard report is pretty usefull!
Looks good. Think I’ll be upgrading from my 1030 Plus
Looks awesome. Think I prefer the shape of the older ones though. Why they change it!
shape/looks is one thing, but to shift the main interface location, thereby creating misc compatibility issues seems counter intuitive if you want to be the defacto standard in bike computers. any videos comparing the locations to see how much it really is?
19:27 The Garmin 1050 shows a slow climb where four other devices do not (roughly from "1:20:09--1:40:09" in the graph). You sound overenthusiastic to me, overall, as in lacking the willingness to call out shortcomings explicitly without making excuses for them. How is Garmin supposed to improve products, if everything is great, even when it isn't quite great? Thanks, though, for all the useful graphs and information in general.
Honest question, what is the point of having the “best” display colors and resolution if it has a ton of glare when riding outdoors?
I had an 1030 and the screen glare was a headache. Moved to Roam V2 and is just amazing to look at something with no glare.
No issues with glare for me.
Thanks for the great video reviews as always. That dj track in the beginning that cuts in and out does not work well at all on top of someone speaking.
Regarding screen brightness, this is not a cell phone, you only look at your bike computer for a fraction of your ride duration. So, nice yes but not so important, plus it bumps up the price and decreases battery life.
High screen brightness is important if you want to be able to view the vivid colours of the display in bright sunlight. I guess it's the same argument you have on the Fenix 7 versus the Epix 2, you can go with the Fenix if you want long battery and do not care so much for a good looking display, or you take the Epix if you want a really dam good looking display and don't mind that you need to charge it more often.
@@Maxwaehrens You could just take your ipad
@@slangigyeah brilliant idea. I'm sure my iPad with the screen on and running a GPS will last as long as maybe a quarter of the time of the 1050 will
Is it finally possible to associate a specific equipment (such as a bicycle or running shoes) to a specific activity so that you don’t have to keep changing equipment post ride when you do a MTB ride and your default bike is the road one?
Nice review, greetings form Delft.
I got mine yesterday. The bell is great and sound is loud. Hope they fix that varia problem soon. Sound is very weak.
what kind of Varia issue?
Still happy with my 830. Just like with their watches I feel you need to wait more than a couple of years and newer models to before its worth it to upgrade
Excellent as usual DC! 👏👏👏
Thanks!
Excelent review as always.
Loved the T-shirt. Where do I get one?
Does the mapping/routing function on the connect website reflect the surface type going forward?
When should we expect to see the new factions come to the 1040?
My 1040(and I will assume the 1050) touch screen is absolutely terrible when my hands have been coated in sunscreen. Buttons would have been nice.
Hey DC, any idea if the Computer/Watch/Connect integration is fixed with this new gen? The x40 offers a bug where calories recorded and imported to Connect are superseded by a garmin watch, and I (and other x40 users) have never gotten accurate calorie data in Connect when also using a watch with Connect. Which renders training readiness features, and much of the ecosystem, useless. The line from Garmin for 1.5 years is “we’re working on it”. Can you shed any light on this?
Seeking advice here: i was looking for a 1040 and now i discovered that the 1050 was presented.
I'm not a pro, i will use it for gravel/mtb (95% of the time gravel).
I find the 1040 at 465€ delivered next week and the 1050 at 749.99€ delivered maybe in 3-5 week (minimum).
Suggestion?
Did you also test the charging time? I wasn't able to hear/find in your review but would very curious to learn how long it takes to charge from 0 to 100%.
I will stick to my Edge 130 which is lightweight, does everything I need (climbpro included) and has huge battery life.
I don't necessarily care if the computer is all that responsive or not. I have never really needed to cruise through the menus in the middle of my ride. But, the UI of the menus needs to come to older models. I'm running the 830 and it feels like I need a cartography degree to successfully navigate through the menus on it.
Do you have any opinions about the edge remote? I use the discontinued remote, which is wearing out. It's useful for me but and not sure how much longer it will last. The new one is for ebikes and doesn't work the same. Not sure why garmin discontinued it. It has a screen change button, lap button, and a programmable button. The new one does not have all these features.
Thanks, great review. Do you know if the gradient response update is being added to the 30 series? My 1030 is shocking with this.
Sadly not
@@Dcrainmaker a real shame, thanks for the response 👍
@dcrainmaker - can you elaborate on the firmware tickle down part? Your table with the comments is saying that for the share feature as well as for the new gradient algorithm it’s unlikely to tickle down … but in the video you are showing a 1050 and a 840 sharing a track.
It shows unlikely for the Edge Explore 2. Everything else gets it.
@@Dcrainmaker ah - then I did understand it exactly the false way. :) thanks for clarification!
Garmin really seems to be upping their game in terms of software over the past 2 years - quiet like it.
Verry nice computer, this week I will have my first ride with it. Great bell function. Be aware when you have a specialized bike with Roval earo bar, when using the Garmin mount, it is pretty close to mount you gamin edge 1050, you can not use a safety cover, I hope ther will be a long mount for the roval aero bar.
imagine riding in a fondo, and in a few years instead of the beeping we would all hear voices of starting segment, turn right, etc. Kind of like it and kind of hate it.
Is that really an issue, you can get the notification from ‚your‘ Garmin Varia quiet during a group ride, at least if you want to ride with that group more frequently. So I guess you can get the 1050 silent as well.
@@saschapeter5882 Yes, I have all the notifications without the beep. But I was thinking in a few years ahead when all the Edge and Wahoo's will have this feature.
I see that you have the option on the 1050 of vocal alerts for navigation to be on the computer or you can change it to your phone. Will the vocal alerts be an option to your phone from the 1040 solar in a software update?
Dogs are fine. It's the Canada geese that you gotta watch out for.
Those Canadian Geese must have experienced some mighty foul winds if they're all the way over in the Netherlands.
You don't gravel bike do you? ;-)
DC, if your going to eurobike this year and see Garmin can you ask about the Varia Front headlight? It’s been 7yrs and no updates. Also any possibility of a 1050 solar?
I've got SRAM rival hence no "hidden" buttons. Would you recommend using Garmin edge remote control or SRAM blips? 🤔
Dear @DC Rainmaker: can you please check in the 1050 AXS sensors settings, what are the current functions which can be assignment to AXS extra button control? it remains same as for .x40 series, or are there some more option for the extra button control via shifters? thanks in advanced
Is there a 850 version coming?
Does the hazard marking show-up in the activity's .fit file? I'm thinking about the usefulness of being able to send/export the gps file to trail maintenance folks to note the location of downed trees.
Thank you for the video 🙂 Have a question:
It's not possible to use the Navigation Search Bar to search for an address in the Garmin Edge 1050 - the system says: "No Results Found".
If anyone knows how to solve this problem please tell 🙂
It takes time to move the map around to find a location instead of just type the address.
Ray, does the rider alert/hazard option allow riders to note changes to the surface? I ride a lot in northern Virginia and often the routes on RideWithGPS are badly wrong - imagine making a short sharp descent over a creek and all the sudden it's unexpectedly gravel. Oof! Happens a lot
iphone money for a bicycle computer is getting a bit much
Don't buy it
@@cappacullaExactly, the 1040 and 840 still exist. There are also $100 options on Amazon that just do the basics.
motorcycle money for a bicycle?
nobody needs the top level stuff, we want it.
and pleeeeeeenty of people gonna pay
It is just an overpriced andriod device with Garmin software
IPhone money for an iPhone is also a bit much…😵💫
3:36 - all these fountains and waterfalls from Garmin and Karoo, but still the most reflex-INsensitive screen has Wahoo
Hi I’m short before buying a new Garmin 1050 device. But I guess I need a new mount therefore. Currently I’m using a
K-Edge K13-2500IC combined with GoPro mount. Do you know is this one for aero cockpits still usable? Or what can u recommend?
Garmin released some kid of "works with 1050" certification (yes really) so your question is warranted
@@andreasolsson2336 and where can I find these works with?
What I don’t understand is why it’s not possible to select a course and ride it in the other direction ( start become finish end finish start), you have to go to the app for that and resync the route from the app? With a fenix you can do this on the watch, why not on the edge? Thanks
Nice Review again! Animal hazard could be useful for bikepacking/ultra races etc.
When’s the 850 coming?
Given the Edge 840 came out a year ago, I'd assume another year (2-year refresh cycle).
how is the experience using this computer pair with wahoo kickr smart trainer? is that possible to share any experience with loaded route for training indoor? thanks in advance 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️