46. Rome Constantinople Mecca (Jewish History Lab)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @gregcollins7602
    @gregcollins7602 3 года назад +6

    That's is incredible. I also want to know more of the Jews in Yemen. Opens up all kinds of questions and theories about the arabian peninsula.

  • @oneing4206
    @oneing4206 3 года назад +6

    Sir, the name Istanbul is not because of the turkish conquest but it was already in use. It derives from the Greek phrase ‘is timbolin’ with which they meant ‘The City’. It is based on the Greek usage of referring to Constantinople simply as ‘The City’. The Turks at some point simply made official what was already in use.

  • @michaelferto6588
    @michaelferto6588 Год назад +1

    ...Thanks for a great overview, of major events and places, in these religions...Of course seeing the Jewish Temple, rebuilt at this time, would have been a great accomplishment, for the Jewish religion.....

  • @danielpalmer643
    @danielpalmer643 3 года назад +1

    I have heard that they had been calling it 'Istanbul' for many years before the Ottoman conquest, it's a slurring of a Greek phrase that means 'in the city'

  • @Kangaru14
    @Kangaru14 3 года назад +2

    Can you please share your sources for the maps you use in your videos? I'd love to look closer at a few of them!

  • @lsdlrf
    @lsdlrf 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, Dr Henry...🤔great as always...sometimes I think I should move to Brooklyn & find my way to classes with you & the Jewish community. If I was younger, I probably would!😁

  • @arsalanahmad2024
    @arsalanahmad2024 2 года назад +1

    Constantinople's name changed and became Istanbul in 1922. I think you should know that

  • @ninorpereira
    @ninorpereira 3 года назад +2

    My question is similar to Greg's: how do the present-day Yemenite Jews relate to those earlier communities?

  • @matthewsainsbury1801
    @matthewsainsbury1801 3 года назад +1

    the dispersion of the jews following the roman jewish wars cause alot of major changes im glad you touched briefly on the antisemitic views during the byzantine era,i heard that during the byzantine rule over jerusalem jews where banned from the city it was only to the islamic conquest in 638 that jews where allowed tto live there again peacefully with their arab neighbours thanks for the lecture

  • @SuperMan-by5be
    @SuperMan-by5be 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Dr.abramson so much for this great lecture of Jews of arabia and forethuer information they aren't converts they are Israelites from the first and second Temple

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 3 года назад

    Ibn Sapir in his book regarding his travel through Yemen 1860ce .
    “ while I stayed in Shibom I was told that there are two more tiny Jewish settlements in the area, just a few hours walk distant. One of them, called Sari, used to be a city of refuge, and all the inhabitants are levites . On the way there are large stones along the wayside with REFUGE REFUGE written on them .
    I couldn’t believe this, for the law of cities of refuge applies only inside the holy land.
    My host too Mori Shmuel al-Arusi , a learned and intelligent man, testified that a tradition to this effect really does exist. According to it this belonged to an ancient Jewish kingdom from antiquity. There was another such city in tha Amron district.”

  • @terrytzaneros8007
    @terrytzaneros8007 3 года назад

    The adaption to and adoption of Romanitas by the Jews of Rome (Ladino-speaking Sephardim etc.), and its eastern variant, Romaiosyni, by the Jews of Constantinople (Greek-speaking Romaniotes inter al.), is at least some demonstration - albeit for the sake of survival, that there were moments of communal respite in the lives of Western and Byzantine Jewry.

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 3 года назад

    Good evening. Alexandria in Egypt played a role in earlier centuries

  • @Big660
    @Big660 3 года назад

    Hey professor do you know any history of jews during the byzantine empire. Please upload

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 3 года назад

    Heraclius negated on his promise ( by the influence of the bishops)not to punish the Jews for assisting the Sassanian army to capture Jerusalem . A total shmad was instituted, when the Muslims showed up it was like a breath of fresh air , the irony of it.

  • @matthewsainsbury1801
    @matthewsainsbury1801 3 года назад

    thanks henry abramson on your video of the relations between christians and jews following the fall of the western roman empire which ruled the near est that image or painting of the visgoths and others sacking rome is very colurful and realistic they even show the temple menorah that titus took in 70ce,i hear some people wonder if it was taken by the visgoths anyway i also thank you for talking about the kingdom of kazaria briefly i heard alot of eastern jews trace their ancestry to that area north of the black sea in the caucasoid mountains i hear the leader of kazaria named kagan converted to judiasism in the 7century to defend his kingdom from the arab conquest and the byzantine ambitions,

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 3 года назад

    06:15 I read in History of Byzantine Empire book 📚 that name Istanbul comes from misunderstanding of Greek by Turkish conquerors. I qoute from memory it means "isti an polis" something like "That way towards The City"

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 3 года назад

    09:31 Antiochia in Syria in Antiquity was as important as London, Paris, NY. It used to be 2nd biggest city after Rome in the Roman Empire

  • @tiberius.silurus
    @tiberius.silurus 3 года назад

    An interesting proposition about the renaming mentioned in the lecture: history.info/on-this-day/1930-the-city-of-constantinople-renamed-to-istanbul/

  • @akbarshoed
    @akbarshoed 3 года назад

    Wow. Israel was in the Roman Empire? Who was their prime minister? What form of government did they have?

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 3 года назад

    In Church of Saint Peter first Christians were converted Israelites then Saint Paul's Church started to preach between Greeks

  • @charlesedwards5333
    @charlesedwards5333 3 года назад

    What is the source for church opposing circumcision of slaves ? Thanks

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  3 года назад +4

      It's only partially the circumcision, it's the ownership. Lots of Canon law on this.

    • @charlesedwards5333
      @charlesedwards5333 3 года назад

      @@HenryAbramsonPhD Thanks. I found some of that In Chazan's reader and some at the Fordham medieval database.

  • @joegarry8983
    @joegarry8983 3 года назад

    Would very much like if you would some time consider giving a lecture on the lost Israeli tribe of Dan whom the Assyrians routed many centuries b.c..They are said to be theTuatha de Dannen, the nation of Dan who settled across the British Isles in the Celtic era and actually there is much evidence for their being here in Ireland. One of the great claims made for Patrick here in Ireland was that he drove the snakes from Ireland, and one of the emblems of the tribe of Dan was said to be a snake. This idea only came to me a short time ago. Anyone with any ideas.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  3 года назад

      My research agenda is pretty tight for the next 18 months, sorry.

  • @matthewsainsbury1801
    @matthewsainsbury1801 3 года назад

    oh and HAPPY PURIM i know its only a few weeks away but i find the story fascinating ,im not certain if jews still acknowledge the defeat of nicanor by judah maccabeus on the same time but whatever the case its a interesting holiday, i heard in a few documentaries that the hebrew letters in esther that talks on the ten sons of haman being hanged ,the letters shockingly comes to 1946 the time they hang the ten nazi war criminals one said before hanging purim fest thats really fascinating

  • @beliefinjustice448
    @beliefinjustice448 3 года назад

    אחלה הרצאה. הכי טובה בסדרה, לדעתי.

  • @yourthought2333
    @yourthought2333 3 года назад

    Oh the cartography 😮

  • @verticledomain4210
    @verticledomain4210 3 года назад

    I find the notion that Petra not Mecca was the original religious focal point compelling. Internal evidence in the Qur'an itself seems to suggest this also. A strict monotheism in Islam seems to be a somewhat later development, same in Judaism. Obvious Pagan influences in Islam and the Qur'an.
    Dan Gibson does a good job researching this. He has a RUclips channel.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  3 года назад

      Hmm

    • @verticledomain4210
      @verticledomain4210 3 года назад

      @@HenryAbramsonPhD Mecca is only mentioned once in the Qur'an. Curiously, suggestions of the Nabiteans and Petra abound in the Qur'an. Roughly around the time of abd Malak and Islamic Empire Consolidation is when Mecca seems to have replaced Petra as a focal point. The more I go down this rabbit hole the better it works.

    • @supremercommonder
      @supremercommonder 2 года назад

      Stop talking bullshit on our tradition

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 3 года назад

    Mamesh mechaya

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  3 года назад

      Thanks

    • @zafirjoe18
      @zafirjoe18 3 года назад

      Heraclius negated on his promise ( by the influence of the bishops)not to punish the Jews for assisting the Sassanian army to capture Jerusalem . A total shmad was instituted, when the Muslims showed up it was like a breath of fresh air , the irony of it.

  • @terrytzaneros8007
    @terrytzaneros8007 3 года назад

    Many Jewish families in Eretz Israel, particularly outside of Jerusalem, had Christian believers amongst their numbers in the 3rd and 4th c. Ostracism was rare for the 1st and 2nd generations of Yeshuic Messianic Jews.

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 3 года назад

    Justinian and his impact on Jews in Palestine is very much ignored. With his 33 decrees against the Jews . In his time the pytanim like Yossi and later the famous R’ Eliezer Hakalir started inserting the piyutim , because the drasha was banned on the sabbath [ the reason ing was they thought this was the reason keeping the Jews from converting] so they included the aggadaic teachings in the prayer.
    Justinian, not content with subverting the laws of the Roman Empire every day, exerted himself in like manner to do away with those of the Jews; for, if Easter came sooner in their calendar than in that of the Christians, he did not allow them to celebrate the Passover on their own proper day or to make their offerings to God, or to perform any of their usual solemnities. The magistrates even inflicted heavy fines upon several of them, upon information that they had eaten the paschal lamb during that time, as if it were an infraction of the laws
    of the state.
    ( the secret history of the court of Justinian Xxviii)By Procopius of Caesarea
    See שו״ת מהרי״ץ חיות סימן ב that wants to prove from this , that Jews clandestinely sacrificed the Pesach up until the time of Justinian when circumstances allowed.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  3 года назад

      TY

    • @zafirjoe18
      @zafirjoe18 3 года назад

      Henry Abramson By the way Hirsch Chayos is the only Dr. whose commentaries are printed In the shas .