Genius Micro Hydro Turbine Halves Cost of Energy
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2023
- This hydro electric breakthrough can help bring continuous cheap renewable electricity to remote areas!
Natel Energy recently announced a partnership with Symbion power called MyHydro. The aim is to deploy their new restoration hydro turbine throughout the Democratic Republic of Congo. This video looks at how it works and what it means for the clean energy sector.
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Thanks everyone for watching, here are some additional points to compliment what was said in the video:
- The hydro turbine is planned to work along side other more intermittent renewable energy, such as wind or solar, to provide base load & reliable power!
- Some 'screening' would likely need to be done for debris or mammals, however this is much less intrusive, expensive, and inefficient than fish screening.
Possibly a daft question, but would it not be possible to rig it so the outer cylinder rotated whilst the blades were stationary, using the effect seen in the "olds elevator", which would be even better for the fish, seen here. ruclips.net/video/-fu03F-Iah8/видео.html
Make your own...put it in water and forget about it
There's nothing more disastrous for an river biota than this primitive and brutal way of generating energy called hydroelectricity
Indeed renewable, but destructive and filthy
Call this "clean" energy is an aggression to mankind as well as for all biodiversity
The hope is that once people raise awareness about the number of extinct species, lost habitats and landscapes destroyed done by hidroelectrical power plants this neolithic practice will be banned for ever
@Arsène Lupin this is the most shallow excuse anybody could come up with
There are at least half a dozen sustainable ways of generating power before desertifieng rivers and destructing waterfalls
@@arsenelupin4605 I'm trying to protect the heritage of my kids and future generations from rapacious mercenaries
"Dams can cause negative impacts if they break". Bit of an understatement 😆
Tru- but the engineering effort involved here to accommodate fish flow is quite admirable . I think this is in the right direction here
@@cobyiv I doubt the flow goes in both directions.
Ahaha yea I did undersell that a bit... 😅
Watch Damnation much?!
In india, dams have displaced several thousands of people from their homes. Now these dams are full of silt. They are saying that dredging will cost approx the same as a new dam!!
Hydro power has been in use in Scotland for at least 50 years now, did no one know this. 99.9% of electricity in Scotland is by renewable energy and over 60% goes to England
Scotland has a huge land area for less than 10% of the population of the UK, with lots of high ground & valleys that are ideal for this kind of equipment. Scotland also has far higher wind speeds than the rest of the UK, which is why the wind turbines have better production figures. Much of the energy has to go to England because Scotland cannot use it all & transmission losses, for exporting further afield, are huge. It flows the other way when necessary. Scotland spends some £8 billion/ year more than its tax receipts & that includes credits for the oil & gas receipts. That gap is filled by England, along with similar subsidies for N.I. & Wales. Most of the technology installed has foreign investment at its source, that has to be paid for somehow. Norway started hydro-electric at the end of the 19th century, with Hammerfest (north of the arctic circle) being the first town to benefit from electric street lighting in 1891. So Scotland wasn't exactly a pioneer in the process. That aside, there's still a long way to go before oil & gas can be dispensed with, with something like 3 billion people in the world reliant on burning dung or wood as their sole source of energy, causing millions of deaths from smoke inhalation, cold & food shortages. They need cheap energy & the holy grail that consists the current & proposed 'renewables' aren't going to be anywhere near enough to fill that hole.
This sounds really good! Hydro is the way to go if you can and microhydro gets too little attention. I am glad to hear that the propeller is fish safe too!
They have always been and will continue to be very high-maintenance devices. Sediment, wildlife, algea and the thousands of different bits of junk that gets flushed into water clog and deteriorate these things like nobodies business which demands a balancing act of filters at the cost of output.
That and the catastrophic failures that occur once there's a dry-spill which Sweden was recently devastated by, causing energy prices to go up by 1000%+ due to over-reliance on water-based energy.
Better if they could clean, gut and filet, providing an endless source of heart-healthy dinners
Large dams are damaging to the environment, as the guy said at 0:47 this microhydro seems pretty neat though.
@@Coecoo ^This
You put stuff in water, Stuff will inevitably get F*d up because water is great for everything except machinery.
Mixes with anything and everything, everything alive needs water to live meaning that water inevitably has a bunch of living and dead stuff in it which eventually clogs shit up. Since it mixes well, it pretty much always becomes corrosive or acidic. It's also pretty heavy stuff which means that it both loves to carve its surroundings up and transport heavy stuff downstream. Anything built in water needs to be overly solid to account for all kinds of hazards and yet it'll still inevitably degrade and break at a faster pace than any engineer would ever want.
Water sucks to work with. It's really good stuff though.
Being in S.W. Indiana local people have often wondered how come the river current has never been used. With this method would indeed be an excellent place to start. Multiple turbines at points along the river at different depths.
Because the flow of money (commerce) transportation cannot be impeded....
Your current power supplier sees the addition as a threat to their wages.
It's the same concept anywhere you go with changes, people hate it if they take any losses.
Optimize means less humans needed, less work needed, less pay given.
Why not diy, dam it.
Water wheels turn generators do more spinners to get more Zzzz. Why you so silly
I live in WA., you can't even fantasize about getting free power from a river in these parts.
This has some really interesting possibilities for micro-pumped-hydro-energy storage.
Also great video, well presented.
You do know putting water through a turbine cracks all of the entrained gasses out of it ! With no oxygen in the water, all of the organic decomposition is anaerobic and produces extremely toxic compounds!
Really interesting, please keep covering such topics.
These kinds of devices need to become standard for all towns and cities with free-flowing rivers running through them. It will take longer than people realise to get rid of fossil fuels but this kind of stuff is a no brainer
I heard about something like this years ago, im so glad its coming to fruition.
Really like your content! Thanks for all the time you take making these vids!
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Awesome presentation, I’m glad I found this channel 😊
Fantastic videos
Very easy to follow because you are so knowledgeable
Will keep watching
Just found the channel so happy to have found some quality content
Perfectly explained. Thank you.
"My God, Harry, I went *through* that thing, I almost died!"
"You did not 'almost die', Charlie, it's perfectly safe."
One factor that mitigates the initial higher KWH cost of off-grid solar is it allows local distributed production and consumption. It is easily scaled up,then forming micro grids. That cuts out the slick-dressed parasites that run the grid,whatever the initial source of energy.
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Maintenance, is always he maintenance that tips these project up. I remember the the wells for Africa project. They couldn't even look after a simple hand operated well pump. Some of them ended up fighting over who operated the well. Although they will be good for remote areas where there is sufficient infrastructure to repair and maintain them.
Great video as always! Super clear
4th generation Oklahoma oil & gas business here... River hydro-turbines. Now that's an idea I can get behind.
Very interesting content. Your channel seems like it could become the B1M for energy engineering.
A topic to consider is that demand for electricity is not flat but typically is higher during daylight hours than at night. With a dam, the reservoir acts as storage and replaces the battery. Without a reservoir, the overall cost can be optimized by finding the right combination of solar, wind and hydro to reduce demand for expensive batteries. Search term "clean energy u-curve"
Interesting, well presented and explained in a way that a layman such as myself can understand. I look forward to watching your other videos 👍
Yes details aimed at layman.
exactly :)
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Wow thanks for a great vid, which the explanation of the turbine function and new blade tech.
Very well said
Thank you.
"Ticked and subscribed, all", that video was a quality construction and extremely informative., Brilliant stuff well done :)
I liked your micro hydro turbine concept. I also just subscribed
Great video.. very well presented! ❤
Gonna be a million sub channel in 2 years or less, keep it up!
Hell they should use the tides! In my opinion the solent in the UK especially the western end would be an ideal place for hydro power because of the fast tides.
salt water isnt easy. watch barnacles. watch corrosion. watch electricity mix with salty water and corrosion.
then the basic fundamental of the whole system is slowing water flow to half. any turbine. half.
so, big damn wall, block the tide to half speed with turbines.
half the tide as before...
release half of that tide back for only a 1/4 of the tide on the return.
then yeah, half tide on the cycle.
1/4.
1/2.
1/4.
of course, you could reduce flow by like 1000th, and still be making huge amounts... in steady, predictable surges...
then what to do with it?
in that regard i do like the idea of hydraulic air compressors aka trompes... compress air, release as required...
no moving parts, just a deep hole in the ground, with about 1M of fall. some nozzles. the air comes out dry, clean. lots of it...
Great news! Keep it up!!!
Super ! Thank you so much
Well done!
Thanks for this interesting explanation along with the interesting fish-friendly propellers Ziroth.
By placing big rocks all spaced along the waters edge this will considerably slow down the bank erosion as well making it truly nature friendly.
Thanks for the really good informative video.
You deserve a lot more subscribers.
Brilliant 😊
hopefully these can get installed in regions around the world for cheap energy from local watersheds. hopefully around middle america harnessing the rocky mountain watershed hydroelectricity
Damn you are smart. Keep making videos.
Nice technology, hopefully these Hydro Turbine is in the future for us.
Thank you
Please don't choose to add the loud clicking effect. It's purpose is unclear, it comes abruptly, and it's volume is distracting.
Otherwise, thanks and congrats for another succint and interesting video
Thanks for the feedback!
The answer that these companies overlook is using bladeless generators inside sewage pipes. People are constantly creating waste, and yet very little (basically none) of that energy is recouped. Waste products are sometimes harvested for gases, or turned into fertilizers, but the kinetic energy created by transmission from the home to the treatment site is never collected (if at all). There's tremendous hydro-electric potential if only waste were managed better.
really interesting videos, nice work
Yoooo this is awesome
This seems like a winner really.
This sounds good for new builds of a housing estate in the water mains as they are under pressure
This is the kind of turbine I've been waiting for since the 1970s, from a company that seems genuinely dedicated to distributed generation and serving small-community interests. Thanks, I've come to despair humanity will only work to greater and greater centralization with its consequent unavoidable defects.
Sure, we need to develop and deploy the gigawatt and terawatt fusion systems everyone is spending untold billions- for the global-scale projects we will undertake. For the small to mid-szed communities, and even down to us individually, there needs to be power solutions that AREN'T staggeringly expensive and huge-footprint burdens on the planet and society.
good work covering this...something that could be used in areas of the Philippines
It has a great efishiency 😊
Really interesting video thumbs 👍 cheer’s 😊
You'll still have to screen it... To keep mammals and logs out of it.
This is a great point, but the big grids needed to stop large logs and mammals are much easier, cheaper, and slow water less than fish screens - I should have mentioned that!
@@ZirothTech This would make a good topic for a future video.
Well explain
love the vids😇
Nice video
the tech is here and has been for a few years now . we need to at least start the work to transform to renewables. we all need to put pressure on the ones who are in authority to get this going! And it needs to be now!!
This is awesome engineering.
Keep working bro
Keep up the good work we all need more water power tidal aswell as river what ever happened too wind Mills that's on the river too grind flower in the 19th century even before that
This type of hydroturbine was in use since the mid-1980s.
A separate downstream fish passage was in use.
Hydro dam are expensive and time consuming to install.
Electrical distribution is expensive.
Business wants electricity during the day, consumer in the evening. River flow determines the quantity of energy available.
Awesome
Nothing that deals with water and moving parts is going to be cheaper than basically a static plane of glass.
Depends on how much the power output is, really.
Especially if your solar panel is free, and never wears out.
@@dicktaug4773 Power output from solar panels drops over time so systems have to have extra capacity to allow for this, I'm not an expert just reiterating what a number of posts have said so you need to confirm but the posts seemed genuine.
except solar panels arent just glass and have some not so cheap and not as durable materials in them
Well that's pretty cool :)
I don't see how any one could be against this idea brilliant.
Likely because it's mostly bullshit.
Picture this: Hydro dams and turbines have been around the block for a LONG time. Now, an amazing genius new cool idea pops up that nobody has ever thought of before!
What's the idea you ask? Slightly differently shaped turbine blades in a smaller form factor!
Do you still believe that this "new amazing cool genius idea" is something new and revolutionary? It's definitely been done before. It definitely already exists and if there aren't hundreds of similar versions of this out there in the wild already, then there's probably a good reason behind it.
Spoiler: They do exist, but they require so much maintenance that they're an awful investment. Water clogs and corrodes anything it touches over time.
So much potential. We need to address the elephant in the room though. Corruption. There's a lot of it in Africa. As there's a lot of minerals in Dr Congo so lot of potential of wealth.
But great idea. I hope it works out.
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Everyone forgets the bigger elephant in the room: Africans can't sustain civilization. Decades of time, and trillions in aid, and they're still living like animals.
That's the whole reason why this project probably benefits from development aid
In Khyber Pukhtunkhwa Province of Pakistan we need this turbine so much. It can be installed on Swat river in various places
Hydraulic head isn't a measurement of length, it's a measurement of height as a proxy for massless potential energy or potential energy per unit mass. The formula for potential energy (abbreviated as PE) is mgh where m is the mass, g is gravity and h is height, so if you want to calculate the PE per unit mass then the formula is gh, and since g is a constant the PE per unit mass is directly proportional to the height.
Oh wow, a small dam! Who'd have thought?
Me I think we should be putting more money into wave energy, it's never going to stop, is fish and sea life friendly and is easy to maintain. You can also put wave generators in rivers, as the water passes it agitates the machine. Turbines are high maintenance, they have so many working parts.
I agree. Ammonia based turbines are amazingly efficient and all you need to do is let a pipe full of Ammonia gas heat up in the sun and it rapidly expands, flowing past a turbine down through the pipes heading underwater where the cold water cools it so the cycle can begin again
Repair cycle? How do they handle servicing these in remote areas?
Great point, I will have to have a look into that!
Pure Genius
This is something I've had on my mind for some years. I live in France and am sick of seeing energy, in the form of fast flowing rivers, going to waste. Why can't we harness this energy using hydro turbines. Placed in series at strategic points along a river, could surely make a worthwhile contribution to green energy. Apparently, speaking to locals here, the Maire looked into it but found the cost of fish traps made the cost too great. Perhaps this turbine could be the answer. Really glad I fell on this, thanks.
1:26 Hydraulic head is measured in distance because it is a measurment of the difference in height between the surface of the water at one point and some other lower point, not a measurment of pressure.
Pressure is however proportional to the depth of the water, which in the case of the turbine will be its hydraulic head. I just thought saying "hydraulic head (...) represents pressure" was a little imprecise.
The GOV in Virginia USA uses KES to pump the water back up to two small lakes, making it the most efficient hydro-electric system in existence...
You’d think these would be used inline of water tower outlets that feed cities, you could put 50 inline.
You could downsize it for in home use on the water in-line connection.
They could connect to heating elements to heat sand batteries to heat the house and or hot water.
There's one giant problem with your solution: Every unit would drop the delivered pressure.
2nd Law of Thermodynamics: There is no free lunch.
@@Screw_This I´m wondering what difference big wind farms do to the enviroment, by taking kinetic energy of wind. It must have some effects, but there is almost no talk about it in mainstrem.
This definitely has potential.
Literally!
just diverting fish to a 5% outlet downstream n keeping v efficient turbines for the fish free water is a lot more cost effective process. this filter will also keeps the blades safe from harder debris like logs wood stones etc.
Not only it doesn't kill the fish, it gives them a hell of a thrill!
Interesting! Should be tested if Salmon are safe as well
Can, will, may, where is the actual shots of the turbine in action in situ? Where is the real output figures of an in situ site?
I love this turbine, is what we all wanted free energy, freedom from government, free money, and environment is happy to have it!
So long as you own the river bed & flow and don't need an environmental permit for the construction in your country?
I would absolutely love a tiny turbine system for my rural property in Northern Alberta! We have an artesian well that runs into a little creek. Not only that Alberta currently has a program would buy back any surplus energy we'd create. I wonder what their smallest turbine would cost?
See "diy pelton turbine" ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=diy+pelton+turbine
Theres a guy on youtube who does micro hydro turbines. All you need is enough water and slope to spin it. Ive seen a few where they put out enough to beat solar and definitely beat it price wise
@@fajile5109 LOL. My dude. Micro hydro is obviously by far better than solar or wind... if you have physical and legal access to a creek/stream with sufficient flow and head. In reality, very few people have such access.
@@yekutielbenheshel354 That is not an issue in northern Canada.
Nothing beats the Francis turbine.
You guys need to do a video of a startup in Wendel Massachusetts called Flooid Power Systems. I think they have a RUclips video also.
Thank you. That was interesting, and thankfully you did not include any noticeable and loud and inappropriate off-putting music over voice.
Sounds great! How flood resistant is it? DRC rivers can have epic forces in some places
South Africa needs these. Currently 11 out of 24 hours there is no electricity.
Perfect. 4 pieces of a perfect energy grid :
- this microhydro turbine
- a reservoir
- store energy as water in the reservoir
- grow algae in the reservoir for biofuel
But if I recall correctly, biofuel is notoriously energy inye so r to produce.
It's another hydrogen.
Just use the electricity.
@@rogerstarkey5390 depends. The development of it has been trying to maximize fuel production per acre, which means using pressurized tubes. That seems like a dead end, imo. But I see no reason why a low energy version wouldn't work - it's just concentrating sunlight into something dense enough to harvest.
Interesting, though I am skeptical if these micro plants will be cost effective. How expensive are they to install and maintain?
Most small scale hydro is expensive to install but can last twice as long as solar with minimal maintenance
Can these be used on seabeds or held in open sea?
Thanks for sharing. I would like to discuss this more. Do you have a LinkedIn page?
You should also mention that hydro power also comes with the drawback of habitat destruction and displacement of people upstream.
If Dams are used, yeah. This system can be incorporated into ordinary rivers though. You could turn an entire river into a hydropower station without displacing anyone or even changing the topography of the river
is the 2.5 meter model the largest model for optimal production? Is this model suitable for offshore devices? Thanks
Only source of pollution for these is the mining of elements for the magnets needed in the turbines, unless we can replace those that will be a downside for basically any renewable source. Have seen a lot of these smaller turbines and several different designs in the last 10 years, great leaps are being made when people see the potential and invest.
you need not use rare earth magnets for everything; all traditional generators are equally efficient but they are about 30-50% larger in size. You need these super magnets only when you have small space or weight problem.
@@janami-dharmam Further to that, when a device does indeed need a magnet with very high magnetic density, Iron Nitride is likely to become the go to material instead of the much maligned Neodymium in the long term; not only is it cheaper on account of using abundant elements instead of rare earths, it actually offers substantially better performance, being at once more efficient by a good 10% but also being capable of producing 2.5-3x more power output for the same amount of material. Several processes were discovered fairly recently, that allow for the economic production of Iron Nitride, as such GM are already looking to use Iron Nitride magnets in some of their EV motors working in partnership with an Iron Nitride manufacturing startup; if/when they can scale up production, it will be , well, revolutionary.....I'll get my coat....
Given the output capacity of high head dams with high efficiency turbines in Tasmania I am sceptical that this design is capable of living up to its claims.
Count the number and location of suitable locations for (new) "High head dams" globally.
Then remove the locations where communities won't accept the devastation to the local area.
Then consider the time and carbon footprint of the project.
I am not a pro when it comes to HE turbines, but I showed this to a friend who was an electrical engineer in charge of all regional operations for GE. He was a german old-school pragmatic SOB. He categorically disagrees that this is possible, based on math and physics of all previously designed HE turbines. Any thoughts?
I really like this new hydro turbine. I hope we start implementing it all over and getting rid of old river dams. {I truly believe, The more our surroundings flourish, the more we all flourish.} With how bad I've been seeing "water level/droughts" in the Western America lately. I really hope we not only reintroduce Beavers all over to influence more water collection to important area's that we can use to supply crops, deal with forest fires. Instead of running our water straight back out to the sea or blocking the rivers natural process for the ecosystem to thrive.
We've really messed up natural waterways from poorly designed hydroelectric projects. Before we knew how much negative impact they have on our Ecosystem's biodiversity, water oxygen levels, algae blooms, nutrient flow from inland location's to off shore location's. In some areas like where I live in NW Oregon, rivers are a direct connection from the ocean to the inland ecosystems. Keeping the rivers free is how we keep those ecosystems flourishing which directly connects to our qualities of Life. Our natural waterways are crucial aspects of the entire overall health of every aspect of our environment and anything that connects to that environment. In Oregon, we had some of the best Salmon runs on the planet and lush inland forests, wetland ecosystems, beaver's that created special habitats that held extra water/fire safety and all that got totally flipped upside down from all the hydro dams they built in the early 1900s, and many other practices we once commonly did. Before we knew or understood the negative effects and outcomes that comes from altering them into man made waterways. So I really hope to see tons of projects that are working on rewilding areas for the sole purpose of reestablishing ecosystem's that once flourished. Because Humans inherently do better when their environment is doing better. It provides a ton of benefit to it's people and to the quality of Life as a whole for not just humans but the entire ecosystem around you which will definitely have positive impacts to so many layers to people's life's and your community as a whole.
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This is why we need to invest in modern advanced nuclear energy options. Small form reactors, LFTRs, Thorium Reactors, liquid reactors. Utilizing our advanced modern technology, engineering, material science, safety measures understandings and designs, computer technology, robotics, It will really allow any nation to be pretty much be energy independent. Less reliant on fossil fuels. They'll have efficient, stable electrical grids and the rest of the grid could experiment with alternative power sources, etc.
We need to heal from the trauma of our past and see that it came solely from Us not understanding what we were doing, not have advanced enough technology, material science, engineering, safety measures, understanding of how to go about everything, etc. This source of energy will greatly help the world improve towards the future and lowering emissions more than anything else could while having a very stable electrical grid system. Currently we have alternative energy options but the majority of our grid is powered off of fossil fuels and emission producing sources of energy. We will be so much better going forward commiting to modern advanced nuclear energy options.
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Here in India, the dams save water in the summer so that some electricity can be produced even when there is less rain. But when the rain comes, the dam is full and the water released and all low lying areas are flooded. When the water velocity is less, the river dumps silt and the bed fills up fast. We need a solution that is people friendly.
Nuclear is horrible in so many ways you don't understand. Dams create wonderful ecosystems and the lowest cost/most reliable energy source available period.
@Ben McReynolds
My question would be
If it works in a river, why not a tidal estuary? Or offshore?
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Nuclear? More like Unclear.
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Nuclear costs 3 times the amount for 10-15% less energy compared to offshore wind.
It takes double the time to construct.
The energy it produces is 2.5 times the strike price.
(Data from actual projects being completed very soon)
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You could build double the wind project size, with *a lot* of storage, for lees money.
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As for the SMRs.
1) They're not ready.
2) "Estimated" costs *will* overrun.
3) r
Being "small" means you need many more, so the "system" (network) isn't faster to build.
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By the time prototypes are produced (2025-27?)
Tested (2-5 years?)
Production ready (2 years?)
And a complete network is built (who knows how long??)
It's going to be at least 2040 before any meaningful energy is on line.
That's too long.