Great work CS2C. I really enjoyed this and now appreciate how small everything is there! The river is different since the rain especially at the weir. I really like how thoughtful you are. Thankyou. I left England 20 years ago and now live on a tiny Pacific island. This made me really homesick for the very first time! Beautiful countryside and the birdsong too, lovely x
He has been my favorite creator covering this case. He’s just so competent, fair-minded and articulate. I immediately click on anything he puts out on this case.
I just can't help but think it's improbable Nicola would attemp taking her own life by jumping/entering that river at the bench point or elsewhere. In practice this would mean walking into the river, taking a few steps toward the middle where it becomes deeper and then submerging your head and forcing yourself to stay under for long enough to lose consciousness; all while fighting against your instinctive drive to survive. Or, taking a controlled big gulp of water and intentionally directing it to your airways (not an easy thing to do, plus, can be done without leaving home...) and then trying to force your head under the water surface. Nicola would have to be in an incredibly unstable state to believe this could be a successful way of taking her life and not for a second think there is 100% chance she wouldn't be noticed doing this - let's not forget, allegedly, only minutes before she was seen by (and saw) in that area by other dog walkers. Surely she could not be sure these were the only people who could walk in on her struggling (with herself) in the water. She was neither stupid or unstable enough to conclude this was a viable way of ending her life. Cold water shock could play part, but still, she would have no way of knowing whether she would be affected by it. There's just no way, in my opinion, she did it to herself in that river. There are more reliable ways of taking one's life and she would have known this.
Statistically female suicides tend to use over drugs to end their lives. In this case she took her children to school, concluded her calls and arranged a play date for the children yet no one stated she was distressed or seemed upset. I find it hard to accept she went in that river
Just a couple of months ago a lady finished work early, walked to the park and did some yoga. She then went to the river and took her jewels off and went into the river. I do believe something in the brain shuts down, the part where you have fear and you kind of go into a trance like state. Ms Bulley had been in a very bad state of mind a while before the incident, where the police were called out to her home to carry out a welfare check. Don't forget, we never really know what goes on inside someone's they may appear ok on the outside but dying on the inside.
I really enjoy watching your videos. I was following a couple of other channels but their shows have become very clownish and egotistical so, thank you for being a voice of reason.
I had another idea that I wanted to see as well. I want someone to do all the things that Penny did, and see how long it takes. She gets there at 9:30, finds the dog running around, catches it, and ties it up with string. Notices the phone on the bench, and the harness by the river. Looks at the phone to find out who's it is. Sees the screensaver is Nicola, and Paul. Gets a number off the dog collar for the vet. Goes back to caravan park. Phones vet, phones school, and calls her sister (Ron's wife) Talks to sister, and tells her to tell Ron to tie up the dog (even though she tied it up). Then Ron's wife phones Ron at 9:33. So that is 3 minutes!!! So time that by doing it yourself, and filming it.
Penny called the vet? You don't normally put your vet's number on a tag? You should have your name (at least surname), your address & phone number if you wish to.
Perhaps there was no tag, so they phoned the vets to see if it had been reported missing. The Dog tag is a theory put forward to delay the search for Nicola.
From finding the dog at half-nine, catching it, and tying it up with string (how did she happen to have string on her?) ...... that would take more than the three minutes. Have you ever tried to catch a dog that is running around and away from you because it doesn't like you?! Every one of the 'caravan crew' have done nothing but spout bullshit from the moment this story broke. Surely the police know this. A reconstruction of the lot of them would expose their statements for the lies they are. Why haven't the coppers done this?
Welcome to Lancashire! By far the best reporting of this case and the only channel I follow. Impartial, balanced views based on facts and evidence. Great credit to you, thank you 🙏
It's not the first time from me - my great gratitude to you for not giving up. That's so marvelous that such people exist. My high regards to you Nothing and nobody will ever persuade me that she ended her life in the river. She was not there in the first place, the third party was definitely involved. How beautiful the area is in spring!
Thank you so much for doing this. I also thought the fields were larger and the River 2-3 times wider than it actually is. I appreciate the time you took to show all of the places I have been wondering about. Excellent work!!!
I def feel their is more to this than we’re being told penny bully did a great video a week or so ago about rituals satanic ritual occult ext lots of numerology around Nicki s disappearance well worth watching I think x
I'm sorry, but nothing will convince me that Nicola put herself in there. You also have to remember, most people walk their dogs early morning, & sometimes, again in the evening. If you are there at 1p.m. ish.. you won't see many people with dogs. Also, you will probably find that women are not so keen, to walk there alone anymore. There are too many odd things about this case.
Thanks for your effort here mate. I think anybody with an ounce of common sense would conclude that NB was not in the river during the time of the searches which means that there are very suspicious circumstances here and the truth is the opposite of what the shameful lancs police claim. A total coverup. She and her family need justice, lancs police!!!
@@FleetwoodLass The river was searched where they say she was found and a lot farther past it, multiple times by police and PF in the water and various rescue orgs on foot searching banks on first day and for many days after. On day one search upstream 1 mile downstream 3 miles, there was no body in that river. The number of lay people and msm who walked that river over those 3 weeks was staggering.
@@FleetwoodLass as your from that part of the world you should be aware of some of the major drug stings in your area that are mainly connected to Manchester, some of the names in this case should therefore be familiar to you. You should also know that caravans are standard practice for the hiding and the distribution of drugs. One thing I doubt your aware of is most of the players attended the Masonic Lodge in Blackpool including high ranking officers, the director of the Lodge is Anthony Ansell, but you should be aware that the river is only 2/3 ft deep in that part of the world. 🐼
Some great points, if people were aware of the current situation about the area it is not hard to see what potentially could have happened. There are so many coincidences, links and local knowledge that obviously cannot be understood by all. I believe the public will never know what happened now because of the political and police ramifications. The girl deserves justice, but others looking at a bigger picture don't see that as the most important current action. So sad. For such a small and quiet village and area it is mind blowing but not unique as to the "models" of organised crime that run here and all over the country.
@@ibanonymous2644 The names in the drugs bust are not related to the NB case that's been debunked. If you haven't been to the river you have no idea how deep it is on a daily basis. I know bout Masons, they do weird handshakes and roll their trouser legs up and I doubt there is a brain cell between them. Google the surname Ansell, pick a County, any County, see how many people have that name. It's all just rambling fantasy.
Excellent vid Jon. I still think if Nicola wanted to end her own life she would not have involved her Dog, there is no way a Dog owner would want any harm coming to their best friend even in a fragile state of mind it just does not seem possible.
Or walked Willow then put her in the car & then back to the river to commit the deed. Even that doesn't add up as all too calculated & still to cruel for Nicola who did come across as a nice, responsible person.
Exactly, Jon said if she needed privacy she might have taken two other routes, but if you genuinely want privacy & you genuinely want to end your life, Women would be much more likely to purchase a bottle of booze & pills & sit In the car in a remote location. Or attach a hose to the exhaust & inhale carbon monoxide in the warmth of your vehicle. Or book a cheap room in a hotel, lay on the bed & take a handful of pills & booze, but there's no way a good swimmer would have jumped into a freezing cold river on a cold January morning, & in a location so close to home & her kids school, where her children have enjoyed walks with their mummy & padding in the river with willow. A mother would not rob her children of their special times with their mummy & her 3rd child & no one will convince me otherwise. Tired of waiting for LP to do the job they're paid to do. Poor Nicola was murdered whilst those responsible are still walking free pretending to be the injured party.
The Alarm was raised very quickly and I think she definitely would have been spotted as her clothing was a waterproof bubble type long coat, that would have filled with air for quite a while before becoming soaked, people were all over the river looking that day ...Don't believe she was in there! I believe she was put in at a later date. ⚘ .
Thanks so much for taking the time do make this fantastic video. It's a quality piece and covers many of the key issues which remain unanswered. I really wanted to become more familiar with the terrain/general geography of the area. You've clarified several points for me personally, so I'm grateful to you for that. Thanks again for your hard work. You're doing a great job.
Agree this gives a very different perspective than most be seen on other ‘walk’ completely different perspective to everything I’ve seen… a lot based on Google maps!
Got obsessively into your amazing Essex boys series and just love your detailed analysis of this case. By far the best video work of the area I have seen to date. Full appreciation of your efforts in creating this output.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has become obsessed with these cases. Cs2cr have a way of saying it which is gripping and put you at the scene of the crime.
Thank you Jon. What a beautiful part of England. Looks like a Turner painting. But a tragic end for Nicola. Would she end her life very close to the children’s school, AND abandon her dog? I don’t believe she did.
Lancashire, search and rescue was there within three hours. They spent eight hours. There were 25 men and women searching 3 miles up the river that’s past where Nicola was found. It was on day one She wasn’t in the river until she was the day before she was found 🙏🏻 on January 27. The water wasn’t as deep as he is in your film today. Thanks for a good video 💐💐
Also, the entire place was covered in people from all around looking for her. The police made it clear that all of the spectators were interfering with the search but still hundreds of people found nothing?!
Strong swimmers often drown . Where there is water there will always be drownings whether from suicide, accidental or through criminality . Although there are fewer third party drownings of up close and personal nature or action . Takes too long and way too much energy.
It feels very sad seeing time moving on there...the trees, the grass, ...Nicola should be walking her dog every day as usual, enjoying the warmer weather. As for Nicola potentially unaliving herself...dont forget her family say she was a good swimmer...even when you are determined to end it all, your instincts kick in at the last moments and if she was in shallow water, I doubt it would be likely this is how things happened..but yes, all avenues need investigating
She was never in that water until just before she was found. The dog could easily get over that style and if you had springers like I do you would know how great they are at tracking, especially a very fresh, familiar scent like their owner. Willow would have had to have been tied up not to follow. Going by her behaviour and knowing the breed I would say Willow picked up the scent from her phone and was trying to locate where it was coming from. If Nicola had gone over the stye, willow would have too and been found where she went in. Nicola was never there that morning, too many suspicious circumstances including the 10th. This was foul play
Thank you for your insights into spaniel bred, I have two working cockers and no way o could give them the slip and if I went into North Sea with Huge waves that would wipe them out, they would drown themselves to try to get to me! X
@@tracybowen2732 They'd have to be deaf, dumb & blind not to. Apart from incompetence or a cover-up, the only other thing I can think off, & I know I'm clutching at straws here, is because this has happened in such a small rural close-knit village community, & according to LP & the media, it has affected everyone. Is there the smallest of chances that LP are giving Nicola's young children enough time to come to terms with the death of their mummy before they upset their little lives again? If the two people that many suspect are involved, it would mean other childrens welfare would also have to be taken into consideration re the timing of possible arrests & maybe some kind of child welfare intervention being set up at the schools to ensure all of the childrens welfare is considered. I really don't know, like I've said I'm probably clutching at straws but this case has seemed very different from similar cases that have occured in cities & towns precisely because of where it has occurred. perhaps we will never hear nothing more about NB once the inquest has been heard & msm have finished with it.
@@shellbell6919 I see your point, but I'm thinking that they wouldn't wait if they had enough evidence for an arrest; because the childen could be in danger. I totally agree there is no way the police doesn't see who's been acting suspicious all the way... They must be working behind the scenes. (If that's not the case, they would serve the society better by going home and draw butterflies...) But: No way an experienced detective like Becky Smith would just spread the BS narrative without reflection...😏
This is a fantastic video. Thank you Jon. I have always been interested in the little walkway over the stile as this may have been the route Nicola decided to walk. She would not have been seen there I think. Thank you for making the trip and thank you for not giving up on this case.
I doubt it very much Tina, because if you were heading off to do yourself in & you had a lead in your hand to ensure your 3rd child wouldn't follow you or come to any harm, you most certainly would use that lead to fasten your dog to the bench.
@shell Bell I agree with you. I don't have one single theory at all. Just saying if she took that route, she wouldn't have been seen. She would have not left Willow behind, I agree with you
@@katharinamurray9237 It's the perfect escape route for anyone who didn't want to be seen. Considering there seems to be no CCTV evidence of either Nicola or any suspect who could have left the phone & willow by the bench, either leaving of entering the fields, I think I've got the point of realisation that this case will never be solved unless someone who knows something speaks to LP. Seems if you want to get away with the perfect murder, all you need to do is go live in a rural village where CCTV is limited.
Exactly , and Bowland mountain rescue team [ 25 volunteers ]was called by police hour after Nicola went missing on the 27th of January , and they were at the bench area at 1pm .The Mountain rescue are only called out for people who are missing with dementia , or high risk suicide , or people who are lost , and do a tremendous job . They searched until 8pm , and travelled for over 3 miles down stream numerous times and found no trace of a body .
Remember, the dog was running between the gate and the fence... that's apparently what the witness said. So the question I have is this, is the witness telling the truth here? It makes no sense for Nicola to leave the area without tiring up Willow first. If the dog is untied, the dog would simply follow. So leaving the area would be extremely unlikely based on the eye witness report.
Thank you for such great footage of the area. Best video walk through. It is so remote and beautiful. Also shows how quiet it is. Hardly anyone around. The upper field is large and even if she was seen, someone could have still taken her. Just feel so much doesn't add up in this case. I pray the truth will come out.
People jump off bridges (Bristol) or into the Thames but they do not wade into shallow backwaters at 9.15 in the morning when walking their dog to commit suicide. Somebody killed Nicola. Concentrate on who wanted her dead and why, not the location.
Nicola would not have left Willow running free, she would have tied her to the bench. Also if she had gone into the river upstream of the weir the divers, or Peter Faulding would have found her.
Even more convinced that it was not Nicola in the field walking Willow. 1. If she had planned self fate and considered to walk past the stile for more privacy then she would not have taken Willow with her. 2. Willow could easily jump that stile and follow her, we have a cocapoo( mum a spaniel) and he could absolutely clear that! 3. If she had planned self fate I hardly think she would bother logging in to a teams call and arranging a play date in her final moments. 4. If it was the spare of the moment self fate see point 2. 5. If it was an accident she would have been found. Leaves 3rd party involvement
Yep! These are some of the points I’ve always struggled with, never been so involved of moved by a case before but from the beginning alarm bells went off, and still doesn’t sit right. I’m not a conspiracy theorist and don’t normally get involved with these true crime channels! Something is way off on this one!
Re your second point, there is a channel that went to the scene with their own pet cocker spaniel and recreated this scenario. Her dog easily jumped the stile and ran to her and I’m certain Willow would have done the same had Nicola gone that way.
Nicola loved Willow, and woul not have taken her if she intended to take her own life. Also as a strong swimmer, drowning herself would not have been the best way. Sorry to say in my opinion, foul play appears to be more and more likely. Keep up the good work.
She would so as not to draw attention to the fact that her routine was about to change. She left willow where she would be found quickly . Some of the best swimmers drown themselves .
@Angela Watson But surely Nicola would at least tie Willow up? Also, there was no goodbye with her daughters at school. That would take one hell of a cold heart to behave this way when you know what you are about to do. I also say this as someone who has faced the darkest of moments. This is of course only my opinion.
I can say for a fact , I would not take my dog with me if I was going to unalive myself. I'd want him to be safe at home, but having said that , would ones mind be thinking clearly ?
Thanks for the video. Just shows the place so much clearer. I still find it hard to believe she went into the water to take her own life without leaving some sort of note, message on her phone to her girls and the water In January would have been absolutely freezing, just the coldness alone it would be hard. And to leave her dog alone, it just doesn’t sit right.
12:16 (timestamp) fairly certain that at the time of the river searching the river was so low that the area before the weir was mostly sand and stone banks. They couldn't get the raft over that section of water because the water was too shallow.
The police didn't get the cctv from her house, it was Emma and Paul that provided the police with footage. At 9.15 - 9.30 that road and walkers would be out in their droves. Most people walk their dogs after dropping their children off at school. It definitely needs investigating by an independent body from a different county.( Midlands or from the south)
Surrey police would be good. And get Peter Faulding SGI reinstated as he did not deserve to be criticised. There was zero evidence she was in the river for 23 days.
If you believe she was placed in the water after her death do you believe the coroner is part of the conspiracy also? It is very straightforward to determine the length of time a body has been in water, the coroner in this case is one of the most experienced in the country, are you suggesting he is suppressing evidence of 3rd party involvement/foul play?
@@scorpiorising7694 Nothing to ay she was not in the water all the time. Just not where they were searching. If it was foul play then she may have been left immersed in the river and then her body released after a certain length of time when decomposition will have done its work. But as you say, the coroner is very experienced.
i have no words over this case. we all know what happened and who did it, and all this is gained from the daily reporting, the interviews and lack of emotion from all involved.
@@cleoh666 you said we all know who did it! I don’t think her pattern or friend were involved so who could it be? Unfortunately I believe it was an opportunist who murdered her
If you love your children and partner you kill yourself elsewhere so that someone else finds your body . You Don't do it at home because you do not want them to have that memory .
A great video. Which in a way has led me to write this. Quite a few things hit home for me watching this. Before I begin, I realise and know many people go through things, that nobody even those close to them would know. I am only going to speak from experience. Many years ago, I went through some trauma and ended up in a bad place. Dealing with myself, I kinda lived with blinkers on, day to day. I was later told by family and friends, I was merely not me, and knew something wasn't right. I never spoke about what I was going through, and was on autopilot. I will not go into details, but when you are at a certain place, you know enough is enough. For me it was planned, the place, away from everyone and very much alone. Obviously, I was found but to this day, never found out who by. Spent days in a coma, my recovery was slow and mentally and emotionally I got the help I do needed. I am thankfully in a very good place and since this time have three amazing kids. But, also learnt never to bottle anything up, also not to be afraid of how I feel. The point of this is we never know what someone is dealing with or going through. Mental health can affect any of us. Family and friends can also at times not realise. For example, I was always known, has "happy go lucky and nothing bothers him" . A lot of people have made judgements and assumptions, I am not saying anyone is wrong. I like so many do not know. I just wanted to put it out this out there. Rest in peace Nicola 🙏💜
so glad you are here today, happy & healthy with your young family!!! You are clearly meant to be on this earth as a dad and that's a wonderful thing, Anthony! Stay happy and healthy!
Thank you for sharing that! I understand the dark days when you want to walk into the Sea and end all the trauma of life, because it’s sometimes very difficult when people see your outward smiles but not how you truly feel. Sometimes in that moment ‘it’s who will look after my beautiful dog’ I’ve not been lucky enough to have th as t special human in my life. I’m so glad your here and you are a wonderful person even if sometimes you don’t feel it x
CS2CR is superb. Great voice, always fact based and impartial, plausible explanations and genuinely wants to see justice is served when required. Eddie Vinyl is also brilliant.
Fantastic job on this video I hope we hear the truth in what happened to poor Nicola I just can’t see myself her taking her own life she thought to much about her kids and willow xx
Thank you CS2C. That walk was really helpful. What a beautiful May day. Nicola was taken by someone before 27th or on the day. I dont think she walked the field that day. No way did she choose to go in the river. Willow could have jumped over that stile near the bench. See recent video by Michelle after Dark with her dog Cassie. At 49 minutes you showed us where the police waded about in the river... filmed by Maria Solarz. No way was it deep all over. I feel sad. Lovely Nicola should be enjoying this walk now. Heartbreaking to think of her in the cemetery nearby. 😥😥. She had her life ahead of her, being with her beautiful girls. The police have let her down. Justice for Nicola. 💛💛😢
Have been thinking that I find it bizarre that there is not one sighting of Nicola from the car park to the fields. I can’t believe out of 700 cars,not one has caught a glimpse of her on the busy road. If we think that someone else may of walked willow instead,then I can’t believe they would have taken the risk to walk from the car park to the fields,only one person who knew this person spotted them in that narrow lane,then it would be over and they would have some serious questions to answer. Is it possible willow was put in a car and driven around closed to the field avoiding cctv,walked to the bench but making sure they were seen,but from a distance so not to be recognised.Placed the phone and harness,and got out quickly. Again it sounds very far fetched,but I’m struggling to understand how Nicola wasn’t spotted anywhere
I’ve a cocker spaniel and it has no problem jumping from the ground and on to my kitchen table, Willow would have had no problem getting over that stile, but we have no idea if Willow saw where Nicola went, the harness may have been on the bench with the phone and Willow moved it to where it was found.
I honestly feel we’re all looking in the wrong area, simply because of the phone decoy. She was parked on Hall Lane near tennis club. That we do know and that road leads directly to and from Inskip.
Having watched the documentary regarding the death of a m15 agent found in a padlocked sports bag ,i was surprised to see peter falding involved,i would have thought the resources of m15,m16 and the met would not need his assistance. At this point i realised this case is not straightforward.
Yep any spaniel would! That’s what they are bred for n DNA hunters, agile, and won’t let there significant out out of sight, completely devoted to theirs one person!
Thank you for sharing this You really caught beautiful weather too despite all the rain on the way up The bird song and the lush greenery was beautiful Mr Attenborough may have agreed with you Justice for Nicola🙏💛
There are no suspects that was cleared up in the first few days. Again the coroner has the file if this was a criminal case it would be passed Back to the Police , the coroner would not be dealing with it .
@@angelawatson7740 why didnt the police say it was an accident & tell everyone what happened, WHY ALL THIS CLOAK & DAGGER SHIT ?FFS if theres nothing to hide, WHY ARE THEY TRYING THERE BEST TO HIDE IT ?
So penny didn't know who owned the Springer spaniel and the harness even tho she takes the walk at the same time as Nicola who has taken the walk many many times, Nicola would always be carrying the harness in her hand. The red van wasn't parked on hall lane, it was parked in one of those side roads that leads to the back of the church facing the school, the local witness said nobody would usually park there and that it looked odd, out of place, nobody being suspicious of the van makes me suspicious !
A very early video suggested that Nicola could have crossed Blackpool Lane at the iron bridge without being seen as there is no CCTV camera and continued walking along that path as being shown just now, It is very busy but always lulls in the traffic. Thank you for showing that walk along that path because never shown by anyone else and always somewhere that should have been looked at.
It's very small, I have been myself. Respect for going to learn more and become more educated. The case is confusing, yes once over the slow part she could have vanished but the water isnt deep, its slow and the searchers were IN the water within an hour. They would have seen her. I believe she wasn't there. I don't believe you take your own life in a quiet secluded area around peaceful walkers, and onlookers. I imagine your go into the sea or off shard bridge, not this area.
I just believe it would be too hard to drown yourself deliberately in a fairly shallow river when your natural instinct would be to survive. I just don't think it would be a good option in the morning with onlookers. The divers would have found her day one if she had done that. It is a tiny river.
I admire your stance so I'll say it. Just NO! There is no way she was in that stretch of water, digital images produced by waves that hit ALL objects and reflect a difference proved it already.
Some one left a comment, who knows the locals, that she did that and all the locals know what she did, said that she tied Willow to bench then walked back to the road bridge climbed on it, and jumped off at exactly 0930 and that will be revealed on 26th June, can anyone debunk that theory please?
I do not comprehend Nicola actually being there 27th January walking her dog, also even the S.A.S couldn't have snatched her in the window of time given by Lancashire Police.
Thank you so much. Best footage of the area by far. According to Nicola's strava she never walked past the red brick building but would instead walk up the side of the hedge that split the two fields with the hedge to her left and then take a diagonal across the lower field back to the kissing gate. Something that struck me when you did the walk is that when you got to the path near rowanwater where the 9.10 "witness" allegedly saw her she was allegedly walking east. But she would actually have been walking west I think? So yet another thing that doesn't make sense. And I'm really curious to know what you think about comments that the 9.10 "witness" wasn't white fluffy dog man at all but a female witness. Original reports talk about a 9.15 witness walking a labrador (Mirror). Is it possible this is the 9.10 female "witness"?. Anyway, would love to hear your analysis on all that. You are by far the best youtuber on this case. Thank you.
The best video I've seen. I watched it on my TV and I felt like I was walking along the different routes. It's all very strange. With all the police searches etc I can't see she went in by the bench. It's hard to drown yourself your reflexes would stop you, in my opinion. Plus foul play is still very possible.
Many thanks for the time taken to create this video. It surpasses every other attempt to depict the place and like you, I was surprised by how small and intimate the area is. I also appreciate your balanced and respectful approach to this subject. God Bless Nicola 💛
Thank you for this, something does not sit right with many regarding Nicolas death. Will we ever know the truth, not sure. I feel the passion people have and project about this loss of a beautiful women, is for a reason..call it intuition maybe.
Great job, John. And yes, Michelle's Springer Spaniel, Cassie, cleared that stile in no time. This case is doing my head in. 4 months in and yet no closer to what could have happened to her. I very much enjoy your input. Thank you.
Yep my working cockers would have navigated that or round on in water to follow me!!! This is the big red flag I had in first place… dog was dry! A Springer who liked water… mine would follow me into North Sea with waves that would wipe them out to make sure I was ok if in water!
You should have timed how long it took to get from the upper field to the bench .Then timed how long it would take from where the witness seen her back to the exit .Assuming the met walking in opposite directions .In otherwords having crossed paths in the upper field .It stands to reason they would cross paths again .Nicola returning to the exit the witness returning to the exit going the otherway.I assume the witness at 9.10 left the area before Nicola .Why because that witness would see willow by the bench .Even so that witness if they left before Nicola would still see her again walking back to the bench area
You could make videos like this and I could listen all day, maybe even fall asleep. You have a very nice voice. Very beautiful park, love the birds singing. I think visiting in the winter would have been better, far too much foliage to gage if you could see someone across the fields.
@@Michelle1983lou AD is full of it! he claims he was an MI5 agent, solved the mccann case, paid a convicted p*dophile to appear on his channel, lies about being in contact with top brass in Scotland Yard, doxxes people, blackmails women, harasses and torments the grieving family of a young mum and her 3 children, scams subs for money for a non existent book/documentary/movie... i could go on, but...
Thanks for your commentary. An American diving/ recovery expert gave a key observation. He said you can't judge a river by its appearance. He said it can look still and calm on the surface but have currents or issues underneath which make it treacherous. He said the searchers could have been searching very close to her, and have just missed her. It happens, he said.
The best walk and talk video on NB case so far. You crossed the bridge and drove your car which was really helpful to see the locations of the church, school, petrol garage, and Grapes pub. My only thought is, if NB did leave the bench to cross the stile and attempt fate along the lower tow path, then why leave her phone on the bench in full view of passers-by?
Nicola would have used the lead that's rarely mentioned to secure her 3rd child to ensure Willow didn't follow & could come to no harm. I think jon might have felt a bit intimidated & shocked by how small St.Michaels was compared to how it looked on our TV screens, & I also think tracing Nicola's walks would be emotional for anyone who has followed her case. I've said for weeks that Nicola's planned murder & disappearance was never expected to become national news. They thought that it being such as small close-knit community in a rural pretty village, it would be an open & shut case for local news only of an accident or suicide.
@@bostonlincolnshire8745 I think Nicola was murdered the night before. She had a meeting with her boss the day before but no specific time is given so we don't know if that was before or after her children arrived home. Reports state that her Dad said the meeting was in Garstang, but there was also rumours that it was in the grapes pub in St Michaels. We know Nicola's parents dropped the children back & kissed Nicola goodbye but again, they didn't state what time that was, but considering the youngest child is only 6 years of age & it was a school night, I assume it was early evening, probably around 7pm. Nicola's sister had messaged her about a spa date on the Thursday evening but she received no reply from Nicola, again, we don't know what time the message was sent. All women love to be pampered at a spa so it's odd that Nicola would ignore her sisters message, but the next morning take the time to email her boss, arrange a playdate for her children & log into a regular works meeting before deciding to top herself. It seems to me that whomever had Nicola's phone that morning was afraid of replying to her sisters message regarding the spa date arrangements because they knew there was a very good chance Louise might ring her sister if they'd replied to the message. Whenever I've been arranging anything via message with my sister or friends, one of us always ends up ringing the other one. Nicola lived on a fairly new small housing estate in a row of just 5 detached houses with no homes overlooking theirs & with hedgerows blocking the view from the road. In the small hours of a dark January morning it really woudn't be that difficult to roll a vehicle onto the road without starting the engine. When a murder Is planned, it's not unusual for a parent to add a sleep aid into their childrens bedtime drink to ensure they sleep through any disturbances. I think the items bagged up by forensics at Skipool may be connected, despite reports claiming it was unrelated to the NB case.
17 days before Lancashire Police checked the CCTV footage of that business??? And they’ve just been cleared of no wrongdoing or professional incompetence?? Wow 😮 Ohh 😮 I forgot.. they cleared themselves lol ..
Thanks Jon for a fantastic video, you make the area seem much more real; and explain much more cledrly than anyone else, you're a very respectful gentleman. Tha k you very much for this; and yes it's lovely that the countryside still exsists, its just so attractive.❤
Nicola did not fall in, she would of been found. So many underwater rescue teams involved within hours, plus the dogs and overhead drones. I watched a programme the other night, on a young girl aged 26 was found in the river. The pathologist said she took her life, 35 years later which was a couple of years ago, they reopen the case she had been raped and murdered. Nicola would never of left her girls.
On Crime Scene 2 Courtroom 3 months ago, a gentleman in a blue anorak/jacket gave his theory of Nicola possibly having crossed the road at Blackpool Lane and continuing along the path just as shown today. Until today, this theory hasn’t been presented again and it always rang true to me. The gentleman in the blue jacket showing that entrance not covered by CCTV was obviously there. I am just a bit confused by the different people who come on Crime Scene 2 Courtroom but glad to see this consensus of opinion from two people actually there. Thank you.
If you watch "Michelle After Dark" for recent proof a Springer Spaniel can easily jump that stile gate or find a way around it. The dog would follow it's owner. Willow didn't because it wasn't it's owner that day.
@@Michelle1983lou Yes Michelle they do seem to be clingy dogs. Michelle After Dark's runs off then continually comes back to check on her where she is.. also depending how you bring up your dog they rely on a human and most dog breeds would follow an owner but being a Spaniel it's a no brainer. Willow was planted. Ask yourself most likely who the person(s) would be who could get hands on the poor little girl and stage it.
Yep I’ve got working cockers, can’t have a bath without them checking on me, and they would put themselves in danger coming into rough seas to make sure I’m ok, so can’t go ses swimming with them unless calm waves! X
Great work CS2C. I really enjoyed this and now appreciate how small everything is there! The river is different since the rain especially at the weir.
I really like how thoughtful you are. Thankyou.
I left England 20 years ago and now live on a tiny Pacific island. This made me really homesick for the very first time! Beautiful countryside and the birdsong too, lovely x
good for you. your dedication on this case is to be complimented sir.
He has been my favorite creator covering this case. He’s just so competent, fair-minded and articulate. I immediately click on anything he puts out on this case.
I just can't help but think it's improbable Nicola would attemp taking her own life by jumping/entering that river at the bench point or elsewhere. In practice this would mean walking into the river, taking a few steps toward the middle where it becomes deeper and then submerging your head and forcing yourself to stay under for long enough to lose consciousness; all while fighting against your instinctive drive to survive. Or, taking a controlled big gulp of water and intentionally directing it to your airways (not an easy thing to do, plus, can be done without leaving home...) and then trying to force your head under the water surface. Nicola would have to be in an incredibly unstable state to believe this could be a successful way of taking her life and not for a second think there is 100% chance she wouldn't be noticed doing this - let's not forget, allegedly, only minutes before she was seen by (and saw) in that area by other dog walkers. Surely she could not be sure these were the only people who could walk in on her struggling (with herself) in the water. She was neither stupid or unstable enough to conclude this was a viable way of ending her life. Cold water shock could play part, but still, she would have no way of knowing whether she would be affected by it. There's just no way, in my opinion, she did it to herself in that river. There are more reliable ways of taking one's life and she would have known this.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Thanks.
Statistically female suicides tend to use over drugs to end their lives. In this case she took her children to school, concluded her calls and arranged a play date for the children yet no one stated she was distressed or seemed upset. I find it hard to accept she went in that river
Absolutely 💯% ...well said ✨️
@@vandafowkes9759 thanks for putting my thoughts into words. You don't look at that river and think "this is the best way for me to go "
Just a couple of months ago a lady finished work early, walked to the park and did some yoga. She then went to the river and took her jewels off and went into the river. I do believe something in the brain shuts down, the part where you have fear and you kind of go into a trance like state. Ms Bulley had been in a very bad state of mind a while before the incident, where the police were called out to her home to carry out a welfare check. Don't forget, we never really know what goes on inside someone's they may appear ok on the outside but dying on the inside.
I really enjoy watching your videos. I was following a couple of other channels but their shows have become very clownish and egotistical so, thank you for being a voice of reason.
I have a fair idea who. If the NB case was that clear we'd have the whole thing sussed in a day.
Pair of twats if it’s the ones I’m thinking of. Couldn’t bear anymore.
AD chief culprit. Unlistenable garbage.
Very true Donna I’ve found the same thing. I always enjoy these videos as they are very positive without making accusations about others.
Michelle after dark is a disgrace
I had another idea that I wanted to see as well. I want someone to do all the things that Penny did, and see how long it takes. She gets there at 9:30, finds the dog running around, catches it, and ties it up with string. Notices the phone on the bench, and the harness by the river. Looks at the phone to find out who's it is. Sees the screensaver is Nicola, and Paul. Gets a number off the dog collar for the vet. Goes back to caravan park. Phones vet, phones school, and calls her sister (Ron's wife) Talks to sister, and tells her to tell Ron to tie up the dog (even though she tied it up). Then Ron's wife phones Ron at 9:33. So that is 3 minutes!!!
So time that by doing it yourself, and filming it.
good call
Penny called the vet? You don't normally put your vet's number on a tag? You should have your name (at least surname), your address & phone number if you wish to.
Perhaps there was no tag, so they phoned the vets to see if it had been reported missing. The Dog tag is a theory put forward to delay the search for Nicola.
Wot, couldn't recognise her own nephew.????????.............
From finding the dog at half-nine, catching it, and tying it up with string (how did she happen to have string on her?) ...... that would take more than the three minutes. Have you ever tried to catch a dog that is running around and away from you because it doesn't like you?!
Every one of the 'caravan crew' have done nothing but spout bullshit from the moment this story broke. Surely the police know this. A reconstruction of the lot of them would expose their statements for the lies they are. Why haven't the coppers done this?
Welcome to Lancashire!
By far the best reporting of this case and the only channel I follow. Impartial, balanced views based on facts and evidence.
Great credit to you, thank you 🙏
Michelle I also like a few others. The youtubers have worked really hard to find the truth.
I agree
It's not the first time from me - my great gratitude to you for not giving up. That's so marvelous that such people exist. My high regards to you Nothing and nobody will ever persuade me that she ended her life in the river. She was not there in the first place, the third party was definitely involved. How beautiful the area is in spring!
Look up murder by Proxy. I don't believe a partner Is classed as 3rd party by law enforcement.
You are all so sad, go away and get a life, its not normal you will never convince me or anyone else and its not fair on her children
Totally agree, she was never there in the first place
I agree. She was not in the water
Thank you so much for doing this. I also thought the fields were larger and the River 2-3 times wider than it actually is. I appreciate the time you took to show all of the places I have been wondering about. Excellent work!!!
I’m suprised women dog walkers feel safe at the moment walking around where Nicola was until the truth is out what happened to her 😢
We won’t ever find out.
I def feel their is more to this than we’re being told penny bully did a great video a week or so ago about rituals satanic ritual occult ext lots of numerology around Nicki s disappearance well worth watching I think x
Are you American 🇺🇸
I'm sorry, but nothing will convince me that Nicola put herself in there.
You also have to remember, most people walk their dogs early morning, & sometimes, again in the evening. If you are there at 1p.m. ish.. you won't see many people with dogs.
Also, you will probably find that women are not so keen, to walk there alone anymore.
There are too many odd things about this case.
Thanks for your effort here mate. I think anybody with an ounce of common sense would conclude that NB was not in the river during the time of the searches which means that there are very suspicious circumstances here and the truth is the opposite of what the shameful lancs police claim. A total coverup. She and her family need justice, lancs police!!!
She wasn't in the part they searched. Doesn't mean she wasn't in there much further down towards the estuary.
@@FleetwoodLass The river was searched where they say she was found and a lot farther past it, multiple times by police and PF in the water and various rescue orgs on foot searching banks on first day and for many days after. On day one search upstream 1 mile downstream 3 miles, there was no body in that river. The number of lay people and msm who walked that river over those 3 weeks was staggering.
@@FleetwoodLass as your from that part of the world you should be aware of some of the major drug stings in your area that are mainly connected to Manchester, some of the names in this case should therefore be familiar to you. You should also know that caravans are standard practice for the hiding and the distribution of drugs. One thing I doubt your aware of is most of the players attended the Masonic Lodge in Blackpool including high ranking officers, the director of the Lodge is Anthony Ansell, but you should be aware that the river is only 2/3 ft deep in that part of the world. 🐼
Some great points, if people were aware of the current situation about the area it is not hard to see what potentially could have happened. There are so many coincidences, links and local knowledge that obviously cannot be understood by all. I believe the public will never know what happened now because of the political and police ramifications. The girl deserves justice, but others looking at a bigger picture don't see that as the most important current action. So sad. For such a small and quiet village and area it is mind blowing but not unique as to the "models" of organised crime that run here and all over the country.
@@ibanonymous2644 The names in the drugs bust are not related to the NB case that's been debunked. If you haven't been to the river you have no idea how deep it is on a daily basis.
I know bout Masons, they do weird handshakes and roll their trouser legs up and I doubt there is a brain cell between them. Google the surname Ansell, pick a County, any County, see how many people have that name. It's all just rambling fantasy.
Excellent vid Jon. I still think if Nicola wanted to end her own life she would not have involved her Dog, there is no way a Dog owner would want any harm coming to their best friend even in a fragile state of mind it just does not seem possible.
Yes this is the thing I can't get past. She would have made sure Willow was safe, even left her in the car with food and water (it was a cold day).
Or walked Willow then put her in the car & then back to the river to commit the deed. Even that doesn't add up as all too calculated & still to cruel for Nicola who did come across as a nice, responsible person.
Exactly,
Jon said if she needed privacy she might have taken two other routes, but if you genuinely want privacy & you genuinely want to end your life,
Women would be much more likely to purchase a bottle of booze & pills & sit In the car in a remote location.
Or attach a hose to the exhaust & inhale carbon monoxide in the warmth of your vehicle.
Or book a cheap room in a hotel, lay on the bed & take a handful of pills & booze, but there's no way a good swimmer would have jumped into a freezing cold river on a cold January morning, & in a location so close to home & her kids school, where her children have enjoyed walks with their mummy & padding in the river with willow.
A mother would not rob her children of their special times with their mummy & her 3rd child & no one will convince me otherwise.
Tired of waiting for LP to do the job they're paid to do.
Poor Nicola was murdered whilst those responsible are still walking free pretending to be the injured party.
the dog is not supposed to be off the lead in that field
Thanks for doing this video.
I still think somebody did something to her but not sure where it happened.
This is the best NB video to date. I don’t know how safe a woman would feel waking around there - isolated - as you say. Many thanks 🙏
The Alarm was raised very quickly and I think she definitely would have been spotted as her clothing was a waterproof bubble type long coat, that would have filled with air for quite a while before becoming soaked, people were all over the river looking that day ...Don't believe she was in there! I believe she was put in at a later date. ⚘
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Her jacket wouldn't have made a difference. Leaky and not water proof
@@elliotwilliams7421 it would if she jumped in, her coat would fill with air.
@@phildawson2470 no it wouldn't fill with air. It would fill with water
@@phildawson2470 how does jumping into water fill your jacket with air??? You lot are funny
@@elliotwilliams7421 Have you ever jumped into a swimming pool with shorts on ? THEY FILL WITH AIR.
Thanks so much for taking the time do make this fantastic video. It's a quality piece and covers many of the key issues which remain unanswered. I really wanted to become more familiar with the terrain/general geography of the area. You've clarified several points for me personally, so I'm grateful to you for that. Thanks again for your hard work. You're doing a great job.
Agree this gives a very different perspective than most be seen on other ‘walk’ completely different perspective to everything I’ve seen… a lot based on Google maps!
If she went that way the dog would’ve followed her easily
💯 I have had dogs my whole life and they will go anywhere I would go
Got obsessively into your amazing Essex boys series and just love your detailed analysis of this case. By far the best video work of the area I have seen to date. Full appreciation of your efforts in creating this output.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has become obsessed with these cases. Cs2cr have a way of saying it which is gripping and put you at the scene of the crime.
Thank you Jon. What a beautiful part of England. Looks like a Turner painting. But a tragic end for Nicola. Would she end her life very close to the children’s school, AND abandon her dog? I don’t believe she did.
Lancashire, search and rescue was there within three hours. They spent eight hours. There were 25 men and women searching 3 miles up the river that’s past where Nicola was found. It was on day one She wasn’t in the river until she was the day before she was found 🙏🏻 on January 27. The water wasn’t as deep as he is in your film today. Thanks for a good video 💐💐
It is 6-9ft in the middle and local anglers say 15ft nearby. There is a sign on the tree at the bench warning of deep water. Yes it is deep!
Also, the entire place was covered in people from all around looking for her. The police made it clear that all of the spectators were interfering with the search but still hundreds of people found nothing?!
Your possibly very right and where her body was found (although i got my suspisions) there is a road only yards away
Said it a thousand times, I find it very difficult indeed to accept that a strong swimmer could drown in these circumstances.
Strong swimmers often drown . Where there is water there will always be drownings whether from suicide, accidental or through criminality . Although there are fewer third party drownings of up close and personal nature or action . Takes too long and way too much energy.
@@angelawatson7740 I'm sorry but, rubbish.
Unless she fainted and fell in !
@@tabitha4135 Yes, or a head injury or medical episode.
Strangled with dog lead thst has never been found
It feels very sad seeing time moving on there...the trees, the grass, ...Nicola should be walking her dog every day as usual, enjoying the warmer weather.
As for Nicola potentially unaliving herself...dont forget her family say she was a good swimmer...even when you are determined to end it all, your instincts kick in at the last moments and if she was in shallow water, I doubt it would be likely this is how things happened..but yes, all avenues need investigating
She was never in that water until just before she was found. The dog could easily get over that style and if you had springers like I do you would know how great they are at tracking, especially a very fresh, familiar scent like their owner. Willow would have had to have been tied up not to follow. Going by her behaviour and knowing the breed I would say Willow picked up the scent from her phone and was trying to locate where it was coming from. If Nicola had gone over the stye, willow would have too and been found where she went in. Nicola was never there that morning, too many suspicious circumstances including the 10th. This was foul play
Thank you for your insights into spaniel bred, I have two working cockers and no way o could give them the slip and if I went into North Sea with Huge waves that would wipe them out, they would drown themselves to try to get to me! X
Why can't the police see it
Totally agree...
@@tracybowen2732
They'd have to be deaf, dumb & blind not to.
Apart from incompetence or a cover-up,
the only other thing I can think off, & I know I'm clutching at straws here,
is because this has happened in such a small rural close-knit village community, & according to LP & the media, it has affected everyone.
Is there the smallest of chances that LP are giving Nicola's young children enough time to come to terms with the death of their mummy before they upset their little lives again?
If the two people that many suspect are involved,
it would mean other childrens welfare would also have to be taken into consideration re the timing of possible arrests & maybe some kind of child welfare intervention being set up at the schools to ensure all of the childrens welfare is considered.
I really don't know, like I've said I'm probably clutching at straws but this case has seemed very different from similar cases that have occured in cities & towns precisely because of where it has occurred.
perhaps we will never hear nothing more about NB once the inquest has been heard & msm have finished with it.
@@shellbell6919 I see your point, but I'm thinking that they wouldn't wait if they had enough evidence for an arrest; because the childen could be in danger.
I totally agree there is no way the police doesn't see who's been acting suspicious all the way...
They must be working behind the scenes. (If that's not the case, they would serve the society better by going home and draw butterflies...)
But: No way an experienced detective like Becky Smith would just spread the BS narrative without reflection...😏
This is a fantastic video. Thank you Jon. I have always been interested in the little walkway over the stile as this may have been the route Nicola decided to walk. She would not have been seen there I think. Thank you for making the trip and thank you for not giving up on this case.
I doubt it very much Tina,
because if you were heading off to do yourself in & you had a lead in your hand to ensure your 3rd child wouldn't follow you or come to any harm, you most certainly would use that lead to fasten your dog to the bench.
@shell Bell I agree with you. I don't have one single theory at all. Just saying if she took that route, she wouldn't have been seen. She would have not left Willow behind, I agree with you
@@katharinamurray9237
It's the perfect escape route for anyone who didn't want to be seen.
Considering there seems to be no CCTV evidence of either Nicola or any suspect who could have left the phone & willow by the bench, either leaving of entering the fields,
I think I've got the point of realisation that this case will never be solved unless someone who knows something speaks to LP. Seems if you want to get away with the perfect murder, all you need to do is go live in a rural village where CCTV is limited.
Peter Faulding checked out the river 1 mile upstream, and at least 3 miles downstream. This appears to more than cover the area you walked !
Exactly , and Bowland mountain rescue team [ 25 volunteers ]was called by police hour after Nicola went missing on the 27th of January , and they were at the bench area at 1pm .The Mountain rescue are only called out for people who are missing with dementia , or high risk suicide , or people who are lost , and do a tremendous job .
They searched until 8pm , and travelled for over 3 miles down stream numerous times and found no trace of a body .
Peter Faulding wasn't wrong with any of this !!!!! He knew the score
When are we going to start seeing arrests being made and suspects interrogated?
Police too busy being told to arrest RUclipsrs by their best mates at the Caravan Park ffs….
Remember, the dog was running between the gate and the fence... that's apparently what the witness said. So the question I have is this, is the witness telling the truth here? It makes no sense for Nicola to leave the area without tiring up Willow first. If the dog is untied, the dog would simply follow. So leaving the area would be extremely unlikely based on the eye witness report.
I thought that it was then said Willow was not found there, but in the field?
I thought the dog would have jumped the style or the wooden fence to the left of it surely.
@Stuart S yes or injured herself trying to get over it
another person said it was the stiles
I believe that Nicola was taken against her will 😢
Thank you for such great footage of the area. Best video walk through. It is so remote and beautiful. Also shows how quiet it is. Hardly anyone around. The upper field is large and even if she was seen, someone could have still taken her.
Just feel so much doesn't add up in this case. I pray the truth will come out.
Excellent video and narration
People jump off bridges (Bristol) or into the Thames but they do not wade into shallow backwaters at 9.15 in the morning when walking their dog to commit suicide. Somebody killed Nicola. Concentrate on who wanted her dead and why, not the location.
Nicola would not have left Willow running free, she would have tied her to the bench. Also if she had gone into the river upstream of the weir the divers, or Peter Faulding would have found her.
Thanks for doing this. It’s good to now finally have a complete perspective of this area 😊
Looking forward to this, thanks John
Even more convinced that it was not Nicola in the field walking Willow.
1. If she had planned self fate and considered to walk past the stile for more privacy then she would not have taken Willow with her.
2. Willow could easily jump that stile and follow her, we have a cocapoo( mum a spaniel) and he could absolutely clear that!
3. If she had planned self fate I hardly think she would bother logging in to a teams call and arranging a play date in her final moments.
4. If it was the spare of the moment self fate see point 2.
5. If it was an accident she would have been found.
Leaves 3rd party involvement
Yep! These are some of the points I’ve always struggled with, never been so involved of moved by a case before but from the beginning alarm bells went off, and still doesn’t sit right. I’m not a conspiracy theorist and don’t normally get involved with these true crime channels! Something is way off on this one!
Re your second point, there is a channel that went to the scene with their own pet cocker spaniel and recreated this scenario. Her dog easily jumped the stile and ran to her and I’m certain Willow would have done the same had Nicola gone that way.
@@sublimemadenda oh really, that's interesting. Thank you 😊
Nicola loved Willow, and woul not have taken her if she intended to take her own life. Also as a strong swimmer, drowning herself would not have been the best way. Sorry to say in my opinion, foul play appears to be more and more likely. Keep up the good work.
She would so as not to draw attention to the fact that her routine was about to change. She left willow where she would be found quickly . Some of the best swimmers drown themselves .
@Angela Watson But surely Nicola would at least tie Willow up? Also, there was no goodbye with her daughters at school. That would take one hell of a cold heart to behave this way when you know what you are about to do. I also say this as someone who has faced the darkest of moments. This is of course only my opinion.
I can say for a fact , I would not take my dog with me if I was going to unalive myself. I'd want him to be safe at home, but having said that , would ones mind be thinking clearly ?
Also the lack of a suicide note? Or was there? But not divulged by police?
I agree. A swimmer would not have opted for drowning as a means to go.
No way does the police theory work.
At all.
The place is like a mill pond most of the time.
We live in Lancaster.
Most of us are absolutely skeptical
Thanks for the video.
Just shows the place so much clearer.
I still find it hard to believe she went into the water to take her own life without leaving some sort of note, message on her phone to her girls and the water In January would have been absolutely freezing, just the coldness alone it would be hard. And to leave her dog alone, it just doesn’t sit right.
Excellent footage John, big respect to you for going there and filming, well done.
12:16 (timestamp) fairly certain that at the time of the river searching the river was so low that the area before the weir was mostly sand and stone banks. They couldn't get the raft over that section of water because the water was too shallow.
The police didn't get the cctv from her house, it was Emma and Paul that provided the police with footage. At 9.15 - 9.30 that road and walkers would be out in their droves. Most people walk their dogs after dropping their children off at school.
It definitely needs investigating by an independent body from a different county.( Midlands or from the south)
Surrey police would be good. And get Peter Faulding SGI reinstated as he did not deserve to be criticised. There was zero evidence she was in the river for 23 days.
As the expert divers with their high tech equipment said, when they looked she was not in the river.
Drones, helicopters with special body detection equipment, divers, she was deposited later for sure.
Immense amount of resources used in trying to locate Nicola especially in and around the stream.
She was put into the water after her death
If you believe she was placed in the water after her death do you believe the coroner is part of the conspiracy also?
It is very straightforward to determine the length of time a body has been in water, the coroner in this case is one of the most experienced in the country, are you suggesting he is suppressing evidence of 3rd party involvement/foul play?
@@scorpiorising7694 Nothing to ay she was not in the water all the time. Just not where they were searching.
If it was foul play then she may have been left immersed in the river and then her body released after a certain length of time when decomposition will have done its work. But as you say, the coroner is very experienced.
If Nicola went in the river willow would of followed her for sure I still believe she was never there
I believe she was murdered, held perhaps in vacant building, then dumped later
Awesome that you actually went there! It’s best to see in person!
i have no words over this case. we all know what happened and who did it, and all this is gained from the daily reporting, the interviews and lack of emotion from all involved.
What happened and who did do it?
@@missbelle13222 foul play, I think, but I'm not sure of the 'who'
@@cleoh666 you said we all know who did it! I don’t think her pattern or friend were involved so who could it be? Unfortunately I believe it was an opportunist who murdered her
@@claireemily1983 I very much doubt that.. more likely to be someone she knew
@@Trish-ql9kz I beg to differ but will agree to disagree
Hell bent on killing her self? No, I think she would have chosen many other easier ways apart from this to end that beautiful life.
If you love your children and partner you kill yourself elsewhere so that someone else finds your body . You Don't do it at home because you do not want them to have that memory .
Most definitely 😢
Brilliant stuff John.Thanks for taking the time to go there.
A great video. Which in a way has led me to write this. Quite a few things hit home for me watching this. Before I begin, I realise and know many people go through things, that nobody even those close to them would know. I am only going to speak from experience. Many years ago, I went through some trauma and ended up in a bad place. Dealing with myself, I kinda lived with blinkers on, day to day. I was later told by family and friends, I was merely not me, and knew something wasn't right. I never spoke about what I was going through, and was on autopilot. I will not go into details, but when you are at a certain place, you know enough is enough. For me it was planned, the place, away from everyone and very much alone. Obviously, I was found but to this day, never found out who by. Spent days in a coma, my recovery was slow and mentally and emotionally I got the help I do needed. I am thankfully in a very good place and since this time have three amazing kids. But, also learnt never to bottle anything up, also not to be afraid of how I feel. The point of this is we never know what someone is dealing with or going through. Mental health can affect any of us. Family and friends can also at times not realise. For example, I was always known, has "happy go lucky and nothing bothers him" . A lot of people have made judgements and assumptions, I am not saying anyone is wrong. I like so many do not know. I just wanted to put it out this out there. Rest in peace Nicola 🙏💜
so glad you are here today, happy & healthy with your young family!!! You are clearly meant to be on this earth as a dad and that's a wonderful thing, Anthony! Stay happy and healthy!
Thank you for sharing that! I understand the dark days when you want to walk into the Sea and end all the trauma of life, because it’s sometimes very difficult when people see your outward smiles but not how you truly feel. Sometimes in that moment ‘it’s who will look after my beautiful dog’ I’ve not been lucky enough to have th as t special human in my life. I’m so glad your here and you are a wonderful person even if sometimes you don’t feel it x
@@Camille_Anderson Thank you. Appreciate your very kind words a great deal. x
@@yvonneflanagan2312 Thank you.x
Beautiful footage of your walk around St. Michael’s -
Thank you 💕
CS2CR is superb. Great voice, always fact based and impartial, plausible explanations and genuinely wants to see justice is served when required. Eddie Vinyl is also brilliant.
Wow it gives life to the scene
#CrimeScene2Courtroom - I really appreciated going on this walk/journey with you... You are very respectful. Thank you.
Fantastic job on this video I hope we hear the truth in what happened to poor Nicola I just can’t see myself her taking her own life she thought to much about her kids and willow xx
Or someone else walked down to the bench to leave phone harness and willow and went over the style
Yeah' Emma white
@@JeffsWig yep 👍
Anyone who's grown up in St Michaels would 100% know where to enter & exit that area without being seen.
@@shellbell6919 yeah exactly
Thank you CS2C. That walk was really helpful. What a beautiful May day. Nicola was taken by someone before 27th or on the day. I dont think she walked the field that day. No way did she choose to go in the river. Willow could have jumped over that stile near the bench. See recent video by Michelle after Dark with her dog Cassie. At 49 minutes you showed us where the police waded about in the river... filmed by Maria Solarz. No way was it deep all over. I feel sad. Lovely Nicola should be enjoying this walk now. Heartbreaking to think of her in the cemetery nearby. 😥😥. She had her life ahead of her, being with her beautiful girls. The police have let her down. Justice for Nicola. 💛💛😢
Have been thinking that I find it bizarre that there is not one sighting of Nicola from the car park to the fields. I can’t believe out of 700 cars,not one has caught a glimpse of her on the busy road. If we think that someone else may of walked willow instead,then I can’t believe they would have taken the risk to walk from the car park to the fields,only one person who knew this person spotted them in that narrow lane,then it would be over and they would have some serious questions to answer. Is it possible willow was put in a car and driven around closed to the field avoiding cctv,walked to the bench but making sure they were seen,but from a distance so not to be recognised.Placed the phone and harness,and got out quickly. Again it sounds very far fetched,but I’m struggling to understand how Nicola wasn’t spotted anywhere
The dog would have no problen getting past the stile.
Especially one as small as a spaniel
Agree 100% there’s big gaps in the fence
Completely agree, especially if the dog was stressed or trying to follow Nicola the dog would follow.
Cassie, Michelle after darks spaniel jumped it..
I’ve a cocker spaniel and it has no problem jumping from the ground and on to my kitchen table, Willow would have had no problem getting over that stile, but we have no idea if Willow saw where Nicola went, the harness may have been on the bench with the phone and Willow moved it to where it was found.
Fantastic independent commentary and footage! It's such a beautiful place, yet an eerie afterthought remains, the unanswered questions...
I honestly feel we’re all looking in the wrong area, simply because of the phone decoy. She was parked on Hall Lane near tennis club. That we do know and that road leads directly to and from Inskip.
Having watched the documentary regarding the death of a m15 agent found in a padlocked sports bag ,i was surprised to see peter falding involved,i would have thought the resources of m15,m16 and the met would not need his assistance.
At this point i realised this case is not straightforward.
Michelle After Dark’s Cassie jumped over the style as elegantly as a horse ! 🐶💕😊
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Yep any spaniel would! That’s what they are bred for n DNA hunters, agile, and won’t let there significant out out of sight, completely devoted to theirs one person!
Excellent video, thank you for all your work
I thought the witness saw Nicola from the houses on Rowenwater. He said he heard willow bark and looked over to the field and saw 3 people
Yes I read that to, in one of the very first news reports. 🤔
That's what I read too. Why this info is now missing from the narrative in the whole of the media is mind boggling.
Grissley covered this. The witness stated that he saw Nicola and one or two others.
@@mollybloom5816 yes, then he said he’d got his days mixed up apparently 🤦♀️ that would mean no witnesses at all! It’s madness
@@Cazz_ so that's yet another 'witness' eliminated oh my goodness 😮😮😮
Thank you for sharing this You really caught beautiful weather too despite all the rain on the way up The bird song and the lush greenery was beautiful Mr Attenborough may have agreed with you Justice for Nicola🙏💛
Thank you for this! Puts things into a little more perspective concerning the area! 👏🏻
She was put in after for sure, the suspects are the closest to her and own land next to the river.
There are no suspects that was cleared up in the first few days. Again the coroner has the file if this was a criminal case it would be passed Back to the Police , the coroner would not be dealing with it .
@@angelawatson7740 Your obviously related to Ansel..... Or are you Michelle Always in the Dark....
@@martw74 is that the best you can do ? It's a fact there is no criminal case . Go on then share your opinion .
@@angelawatson7740 I fear you'll be waiting a while here 😂
@@angelawatson7740 why didnt the police say it was an accident & tell everyone what happened, WHY ALL THIS CLOAK & DAGGER SHIT ?FFS if theres nothing to hide, WHY ARE THEY TRYING THERE BEST TO HIDE IT ?
Nicola Bulley was a strong swimmer so counter intuitive that she'd kill herself by drowning
So penny didn't know who owned the Springer spaniel and the harness even tho she takes the walk at the same time as Nicola who has taken the walk many many times, Nicola would always be carrying the harness in her hand. The red van wasn't parked on hall lane, it was parked in one of those side roads that leads to the back of the church facing the school, the local witness said nobody would usually park there and that it looked odd, out of place, nobody being suspicious of the van makes me suspicious !
According to Penny's brother-in-law Ron he told Sky News he didn't know who Nicola and Paul was!
Thanks for this. Nice to hear an uncondescending informative and resepectful account of the scene
A very early video suggested that Nicola could have crossed Blackpool Lane at the iron bridge without being seen as there is no CCTV camera and continued walking along that path as being shown just now, It is very busy but always lulls in the traffic. Thank you for showing that walk along that path because never shown by anyone else and always somewhere that should have been looked at.
I always go back to the fact they didn’t find her on the day if she went in
It's very small, I have been myself. Respect for going to learn more and become more educated. The case is confusing, yes once over the slow part she could have vanished but the water isnt deep, its slow and the searchers were IN the water within an hour. They would have seen her. I believe she wasn't there. I don't believe you take your own life in a quiet secluded area around peaceful walkers, and onlookers. I imagine your go into the sea or off shard bridge, not this area.
I just believe it would be too hard to drown yourself deliberately in a fairly shallow river when your natural instinct would be to survive. I just don't think it would be a good option in the morning with onlookers.
The divers would have found her day one if she had done that. It is a tiny river.
@@TimewillTell1481
Yes, so difficult to force your body into the ice cold water and stay there until the job was done ?
It doesn't seem likely.
I admire your stance so I'll say it. Just NO! There is no way she was in that stretch of water, digital images produced by waves that hit ALL objects and reflect a difference proved it already.
Rest in powerful peace 🙏
Nicola Jane Bulley
12 October 1977 ~
27 January 2023⚘
The autopsy should confirm if she had drowned because there would be water in her lungs where as if was deceased before hand the lungs will be clear
Great video, I’m so glad you visited the area and was so respectful in doing so 👍
Why would she leave her phone and dog by the bench if she walked all that way in the opposite direction? (Brilliant coverage !)
Some one left a comment, who knows the locals, that she did that and all the locals know what she did, said that she tied Willow to bench then walked back to the road bridge climbed on it, and jumped off at exactly 0930 and that will be revealed on 26th June, can anyone debunk that theory please?
I do not comprehend Nicola actually being there 27th January walking her dog, also even the S.A.S couldn't have snatched her in the window of time given by Lancashire Police.
Thank you so much. Best footage of the area by far. According to Nicola's strava she never walked past the red brick building but would instead walk up the side of the hedge that split the two fields with the hedge to her left and then take a diagonal across the lower field back to the kissing gate.
Something that struck me when you did the walk is that when you got to the path near rowanwater where the 9.10 "witness" allegedly saw her she was allegedly walking east. But she would actually have been walking west I think? So yet another thing that doesn't make sense.
And I'm really curious to know what you think about comments that the 9.10 "witness" wasn't white fluffy dog man at all but a female witness. Original reports talk about a 9.15 witness walking a labrador (Mirror). Is it possible this is the 9.10 female "witness"?. Anyway, would love to hear your analysis on all that. You are by far the best youtuber on this case. Thank you.
Is Nikki even in that grave?
The best video I've seen. I watched it on my TV and I felt like I was walking along the different routes. It's all very strange. With all the police searches etc I can't see she went in by the bench. It's hard to drown yourself your reflexes would stop you, in my opinion. Plus foul play is still very possible.
Many thanks for the time taken to create this video. It surpasses every other attempt to depict the place and like you, I was surprised by how small and intimate the area is.
I also appreciate your balanced and respectful approach to this subject. God Bless Nicola 💛
Thank you for this, something does not sit right with many regarding Nicolas death. Will we ever know the truth, not sure. I feel the passion people have and project about this loss of a beautiful women, is for a reason..call it intuition maybe.
I live in a very populated place so it's amazing to me how isolated you are there in the middle of the day.
😍 yay been waiting Thank you
The dog would have followed her and simply, they’d have found her. She wasn’t in that river until she was placed there weeks later.
Spot on 👍👍👍
A spaniel would use the style easily, my large lurcher would too. They use the step planks the same as us
Great job, John. And yes, Michelle's Springer Spaniel, Cassie, cleared that stile in no time. This case is doing my head in. 4 months in and yet no closer to what could have happened to her. I very much enjoy your input. Thank you.
Yep my working cockers would have navigated that or round on in water to follow me!!! This is the big red flag I had in first place… dog was dry! A Springer who liked water… mine would follow me into North Sea with waves that would wipe them out to make sure I was ok if in water!
@@yvonneflanagan2312 so true!! our fur babies are more brave than many humans!!
You should have timed how long it took to get from the upper field to the bench .Then timed how long it would take from where the witness seen her back to the exit .Assuming the met walking in opposite directions .In otherwords having crossed paths in the upper field .It stands to reason they would cross paths again .Nicola returning to the exit the witness returning to the exit going the otherway.I assume the witness at 9.10 left the area before Nicola .Why because that witness would see willow by the bench .Even so that witness if they left before Nicola would still see her again walking back to the bench area
No way did she walk into the river.
You could make videos like this and I could listen all day, maybe even fall asleep. You have a very nice voice.
Very beautiful park, love the birds singing. I think visiting in the winter would have been better, far too much foliage to gage if you could see someone across the fields.
@@Michelle1983lou I’ll have to check out those. I like Sleep tube, any court trials and Forensic Files, but that’s on TV 😂
@@Michelle1983lou AD is full of it! he claims he was an MI5 agent, solved the mccann case, paid a convicted p*dophile to appear on his channel, lies about being in contact with top brass in Scotland Yard, doxxes people, blackmails women, harasses and torments the grieving family of a young mum and her 3 children, scams subs for money for a non existent book/documentary/movie... i could go on, but...
If nicola was high risk why was p not waking with her
Thanks for your commentary. An American diving/ recovery expert gave a key observation. He said you can't judge a river by its appearance. He said it can look still and calm on the surface but have currents or issues underneath which make it treacherous. He said the searchers could have been searching very close to her, and have just missed her. It happens, he said.
Find it hard to believe any Woman want to go 8nto very cold water!
Unlikely with side scan sonar.
The best walk and talk video on NB case so far. You crossed the bridge and drove your car which was really helpful to see the locations of the church, school, petrol garage, and Grapes pub. My only thought is, if NB did leave the bench to cross the stile and attempt fate along the lower tow path, then why leave her phone on the bench in full view of passers-by?
Nicola would have used the lead that's rarely mentioned to secure her 3rd child to ensure Willow didn't follow & could come to no harm.
I think jon might have felt a bit intimidated & shocked by how small St.Michaels was compared to how it looked on our TV screens, & I also think tracing Nicola's walks would be emotional for anyone who has followed her case.
I've said for weeks that Nicola's planned murder & disappearance was never expected to become national news. They thought that it being such as small close-knit community in a rural pretty village, it would be an open & shut case for local news only of an accident or suicide.
@@shellbell6919 But why even take Willow, it was not necessary to leave any clues and wasn't Willow loose?
@@bostonlincolnshire8745
Exactly,
Nicola wasn't there that morning & I'm tired of the pretence that she was there or that she may have been.
@@shellbell6919 Where was she then? Wot is UR theory plz?
@@bostonlincolnshire8745
I think Nicola was murdered the night before.
She had a meeting with her boss the day before but no specific time is given so we don't know if that was before or after her children arrived home.
Reports state that her Dad said the meeting was in Garstang, but there was also rumours that it was in the grapes pub in St Michaels.
We know Nicola's parents dropped the children back & kissed Nicola goodbye but again, they didn't state what time that was, but considering the youngest child is only 6 years of age & it was a school night, I assume it was early evening, probably around 7pm.
Nicola's sister had messaged her about a spa date on the Thursday evening but she received no reply from Nicola, again, we don't know what time the message was sent.
All women love to be pampered at a spa so it's odd that Nicola would ignore her sisters message, but the next morning take the time to email her boss, arrange a playdate for her children & log into a regular works meeting before deciding to top herself.
It seems to me that whomever had Nicola's phone that morning was afraid of replying to her sisters message regarding the spa date arrangements because they knew there was a very good chance Louise might ring her sister if they'd replied to the message.
Whenever I've been arranging anything via message with my sister or friends, one of us always ends up ringing the other one.
Nicola lived on a fairly new small housing estate in a row of just 5 detached houses with no homes overlooking theirs & with hedgerows blocking the view from the road.
In the small hours of a dark January morning it really woudn't be that difficult to roll a vehicle onto the road without starting the engine.
When a murder Is planned, it's not unusual for a parent to add a sleep aid into their childrens bedtime drink to ensure they sleep through any disturbances.
I think the items bagged up by forensics at Skipool may be connected, despite reports claiming it was unrelated to the NB case.
This was very interesting...poor Nicola 😢 whatever happened rest in peace ❤
17 days before Lancashire Police checked the CCTV footage of that business???
And they’ve just been cleared of no wrongdoing or professional incompetence?? Wow 😮
Ohh 😮 I forgot.. they cleared themselves lol ..
Thanks Jon for a fantastic video, you make the area seem much more real; and explain much more cledrly than anyone else, you're a very respectful gentleman. Tha k you very much for this; and yes it's lovely that the countryside still exsists, its just so attractive.❤
wow you're the only one thats walked down the stile way, its so isolated that is probably key to the case
Nicola did not fall in, she would of been found. So many underwater rescue teams involved within hours, plus the dogs and overhead drones. I watched a programme the other night, on a young girl aged 26 was found in the river. The pathologist said she took her life, 35 years later which was a couple of years ago, they reopen the case she had been raped and murdered. Nicola would never of left her girls.
On Crime Scene 2 Courtroom 3 months ago, a gentleman in a blue anorak/jacket gave his theory of Nicola possibly having crossed the road at Blackpool Lane and continuing along the path just as shown today. Until today, this theory hasn’t been presented again and it always rang true to me. The gentleman in the blue jacket showing that entrance not covered by CCTV was obviously there. I am just a bit confused by the different people who come on Crime Scene 2 Courtroom but glad to see this consensus of opinion from two people actually there. Thank you.
If you watch "Michelle After Dark" for recent proof a Springer Spaniel can easily jump that stile gate or find a way around it. The dog would follow it's owner. Willow didn't because it wasn't it's owner that day.
@@Michelle1983lou Yes Michelle they do seem to be clingy dogs. Michelle After Dark's runs off then continually comes back to check on her where she is.. also depending how you bring up your dog they rely on a human and most dog breeds would follow an owner but being a Spaniel it's a no brainer. Willow was planted. Ask yourself most likely who the person(s) would be who could get hands on the poor little girl and stage it.
Yep I’ve got working cockers, can’t have a bath without them checking on me, and they would put themselves in danger coming into rough seas to make sure I’m ok, so can’t go ses swimming with them unless calm waves! X
@@yvonneflanagan2312 Thanks Yvonne. It's crazy the police do not look into dog behaviours further as all the clues are there x x
Thank you again for all you dedication for this case ☺
BTW, which town in Devon did you live. I grew up there too!