Stephen A. points out why the Bucks are under the most pressure after Knicks’ moves 👀 | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Kendrick Perkins and Tim Legler debate which team in the Eastern Conference is under the most pressure after the New York Knicks’ latest moves.
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Everytime ESPN talks about the bucks they are just factually wrong lol
Middleton ain’t Middleton anymore, Dame wasn’t great but divorce does that to ppl so i expect him to be better this year, Giannis is a DAWG, he‘ll be fine. the pressure is on Doc to not flop again
I'm putting my money on Giannis. We haven't seen him healthy in the past two post-season and they're already forgetting that mans had a 50 piece in the finals.
“We haven’t seen him healthy in the past 2 post seasons”………. You just proved their point without realizing it😂 putting up a “50 piece” is not gonna save you in the modern nba! The bucks are about to be crying with dames contract! It gets worse and worse the older he gets!
I feel you but that was 3 yrs ago
People trying to sound like Kendrick Perkins with "50 piece" is retarded. Just stop
Don’t trust dues with the same suit print as a Hampton Inn or La Quinta 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂
Don’t trust dudes with the same suit print as a Hampton Inn or La Quinta 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂
Klay Thompson looks really good for all contending teams right now. Look at what Boston did to Dallas. When the defense blitz your best scorer you really need a reliable easy to assist to shooter. Scratch what happen on their recent run, Klay's reputation as an elite shooter is very tempting. Plus if he's in a new environment, I'm sure he'll be back to grinding again.
Why forget about the recent run? Thats IS what you get from Klay now. He is no longer the same guy he once was
The problem with Klay Thompson isnt how good he is, its how much money he want to make. Top contending team aint paying him 30-35mil/year at this point of his career, especially with how the new salary cap rule works.
@@tigera6 Exactly and I would feel the same way if I was a team exec.
Y’all just saying big names😅 did you watch Klay he’s washed, they’re better off going young
@@whoishim2998 I’m not giving Klay 30/35 mil, rather go young like you said
Lolol Stephen a first thing he says is giannis might be leaving........ shocker there he's been saying it for like a decade now lol
Well yea but then he looked re-committed when dame signed. So to say he could be considering leaving again is actually news
You heard Stephen A: Middleton and Lopez are moveable contracts. Horst if you don't get it done you need to be FIRED. No more loyalty w/ those guys they need to win period. We literally saw the Celtics get off Marcus Smart. F*ck Loyalty at this point.
Calm down! Trade them for who exactly 😮?
Ah yes just bc Stephen A and some random chick in the internet said it then he has to do it 😂
As a Celtic fan I am still not worried about the Knicks 1974 is real they have not been to a conference finals since the 90s. Giannis and Lilard scare me way more than all of what the Knicks got.
Bucks vs Celtics ECF🙏🏽
Giannis, Lillard, and who else? Lopez and Middleton are nearing the end of their careers, they're not deep. The Bucks are a great team, but I have doubts about their ability to keep competing with this core.
Stay humble Denver said the same thing
@@galiojusticejustice3191 they need try to get PG move on from Middleton and Lopez
You're an idiot! First off they made the conference finals in 2000, plus injuries had us miss it last season! The Bucks are washed! They finished top 3 in back to back seasons and lost in the first round both years. Knicks have legit 2 way players and a better bench then y'all!
Problem is Bucks can't trade and receive a similar salary due to them being in the 2nd apron, they cant be involved in any sign and trades with other 2nd apron teams, they can't sign anyone to a mid level due to the 2nd apron, only vet minimums. They would have to get real crafty in 3 team trades to take back picks and probably a really young rookie contract type player. Whats the market for that? And what team would actually want middleton in that case. Lopez they might be able to move but i don't think moving Middleton will land them of anyone significant due to the Bucks salary and 2nd apron rules.
Stephen A Smith, Giannis JUST won a championship. I don't see you putting pressure on Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis...why don't y'all put pressure on other dudes? It's always Giannis with the pressure. First of all Giannis is not going to ask out and you know that. Giannis repeatedly says he loves Milwaukee. Y'all love putting pressure on Giannis while other dudes are just walking around free.
The problem is Damian Lillard has been exposed in Milwaukee (shooting 42% and 35%). ITS LAME TIME IN MILWAUKEE. We thought he was gonna help Giannis but the Bucks actually got even worse with him and y'all are quiet. You guys love hating on Giannis but don't have the energy to give him credit.
Lmao because giannis is the one who got his coach fired and got jrue holiday traded who went and won a title with their rival and got dame who like you said made them worse.
Giannis had Bud fired. Adrian Griffin fired. Had Doc Rives brought in who was not and improvement. The list goes on and on cope more tho
Giannis embraces and wants to meet and exceed expectations. We don't need to cover for him and blame others... We're not klutch... Just keep quiet and ball out and that will shut up the critiques
KD and Leonard already has 2 , Davis is the type of player who’s satisfied on one title, SAS’s Knicks will crush Embiid so there’s that. 🤷♂️
@@MarManiakeep running your mouth. It's kinda funny cause even Stephen A Smith said Mike Budenholzer was gonna get fired if the Bucks hadn't won a championship in 2021. Also, there's reports out there that Damian Lillard was wanted Adrian Griffin fired. Talking of Jrue Holiday? Ramona Shelburne said on ESPN that a guy who does the scouting for the Bucks was the one who kept pushing for the Bucks to trade for Damian Lillard. Also, Damian Lillard is on the record for saying he wanted to play with Giannis even before the 2021 championship and that they had been trying to play together. So Dame didn't know that Jrue Holiday was on the Bucks? I love exposing y'all.
No embiid but it’s Giannis 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*The Bucks, and after the Sixers just signed PG they're under even more pressure.
@@WillWilliams-vo4nk 76ers need a ring. Embiid needs a ring bad now since Tatum got one
Very odd take but the expectations for Glass Embiid are lower.
I still put my money in the bucks over the role players super team Knicks
Exactly
How much are we talking?
Brunson exists, I still have Giannis as the best player but y’all would get bounced in 5
@@drewp839😂😂😂😂😂
@@drewp839 Then u woke up
Bucks made great moves...this didnt age well.
El hermano puedes solo tiene que esforzarse si esta hay es por algo tiene que poner más empeño pero puedes y sería mejor para el equipo
Great legs
Letting dru holiday walk for Dame was a dumb move for the bucks no to mention hiring doc rivers to replace the previous coach!
The Bucks have almost no wiggle room. Their cap space situation is a disaster. What no one seems to be talking about is that GIANNIS put the Bucks in this position.
Hire Thanasis as a special assistant, but all these years taking up a roster spot? That's on GIANNIS.
Middleton is being paid like LeBron James but he's never been more than a support role, with moments of taking the lead. Now he is even less. Why didn't he get traded or made to take a pay cut? That's on GIANNIS.
I like that the Bucks went out and got Lillard. He should have been the perfect compliment to Giannis. But it's not working out? Why? Because Middleton's friendship meant more than doing what was best for the team. I hated that the Bucks traded Holiday instead of Middleton. To make things worse, the Bucks got so little for Holiday. Why? GIANNIS put that pressure on the Bucks to make a move, make it now, and made it public. That killed the Bucks from a negotiation standpoint. That's on GIANNIS.
GIANNIS has put the Bucks in a terrible position with his passive aggressive public barbs. He forced the Bucks to make immediate deals that hurt the future of this team with his threats to leave the team. This reminds me a lot of Le Bron James and his manipulation with the Cavaliers. Players who do this to teams are not team players. Giannis could have handled things so much better to help the Bucks make SMART moves.
I don't see the Bucks winning the title again and I see Giannis pulling a James on the Bucks. Sad as it is to say, the Bucks best move if trying to build for the future, is to trade Giannis for a killer deal that gets them top players and tons of 1st round unprotected picks as far out as possible. Otherwise, this team will implode. Giannis will cry for a trade. Bucks will get little for him in order to appease him. Stop trying to appease him! Players who pretend to be GMs hurt their teams.
Oh, and Giannis, you can't shoot. At least make your free throws. You talk about dedication and expecting it of those around you, but you can't shoot free throws and with your style of play, missing free throws is a MAJOR FLAW in your game. The team cannot depend on you at the end of close games and I stress PLAYOFF games. You should be throwing 300 free throws after every practice when you are most tired until you can make them in your sleep.
I feel like I was the only person in the world saying it was a horrible trade with the bucks did. Not just because Holiday ended up going to the Celtics. Only because they traded so much. Just for one player who is not even in his young 20s. He’s older now. Just think about trading him for holiday. I think there’s like a seven point difference on who scores more but holiday is a 10 times better defender and already proven to win a championship. You gave up your future literally for an older player. It made no sense to me. I even said it at the time go back and watch all the videos when it happened. I’m sure you’ll see a few of my comments, saying how bad of a trade that was. In three years, Giannis might leave he will probably be gone and then you won’t even have any pics. Your team is going to be horrible in a few years. Will probably get injured again next season most of the season because he’s getting older
These glorified role players thinking they're max players is wild. OG aint worth that much. Thats facts
This is the new NBA dude you're not looking at it right. It's not the old NBA anymore
If Giannis is healthy he'll mop the floor with the Knicks chill out
Pat Connaughton Beasley and Thanasis have to go
Time for Rebuild at the bucks
😂😂😂you not serious
trade Giannis to Steph or bron pls
@@theaverageperspective he's actually onto something, if we talking titles it came and went for Milwaukee Doc is a known duck up the truth is the truth
@@MoneyMouktv okay I admit that doc is a bad coach but dame and Giannis is almost enough to win you a championship all you need is to get good role players and a third reliable option like klay ,miles bridges,an Ingram
@@theaverageperspective Dame is overatted and unfortunetely Giannis became injury pron
Does not matter how much pressure the bucks are under. They are not winning a chip with that trash roster. Giannis got a ring and then management got cheap and lazy, now the gap between the Celtics and the Bucks is overwhelming.
Okay but hear me out
Sign and trade Klay to Milwaukee and get back brook lopez.
The bucks get a perimeter threat to be the 3rd option behind Giannis and Dame
The warriors get another big to pair with TJD defensively (think KAT and Rudy lite 😂) but Brook spreads the floor
Bucks and Warriors are both in the 2nd apron so by league rules warriors cant sign and trade Klay. There's no way it would work. Klay is either re signing or hitting free agency.
Khris Middleton is literally 10x better than Klay what a stupid take
kawhi for giannis
Khris Middleton & Brooke are getting old. I would trade Khris.
All the speculation has come from people like you Stephen
The most lazy gm in the league bucks
Darvin Ham deserves to be fired...end of story
Milwaukee has the most pressure then Philly
The biggest mistake the bucks made was getting rid of PJ Tucker it's been down hell since
And jrue for dame but dame might work out this year. We will see
The defense and health is the key
PJ Tucker sucks lol
If the Bucks are to have a chance, Lopez has to be traded or made a backup center. Too slow. Barely rebounds. Declining offensive production. Can't adapt to Defensive schemes. Getting blown by multiple times a game. That is unacceptable for a center of his size. Middleton should be up for consideration given his age and constant injuries.
Middleton was the only reason why the bucks didn’t get swept by the pacers this season.he carried the bucks to 6 games
@@yungleek6295 yes he was finally healthy this post season. Doesn't change the fact that he's been injured and unreliable since 2022.
Middleton was nice Perkins but there was never a discussion about Giannis not being the top guy lol
Yes there briefly was mostly amplified by the media but people were asking that in the 2020 offseason after the bucks lost to the heat in the 2nd round
@@RUSS0okcposterizerno nobody was 😂. Giannis was a two time MVP already
@@discipleteo3763 they were u can look up the clips it was one of the most retarded things in have ever heard but they were saying it
Doc is a trash 🗑 coach
Perk was the idiot saying Giannis was the Robin and has been constantly hating on him even after winning the chip. His opinion means ZERO.
Y’all want everyone to a win at the same time lol when asked who is facing the most pressure save us time and just say “yes” lol
Bucks should try to get klay
Absolutely. Bucks should keep Lopez, get Klay and get rid of Middleton. Put shooters around Giannis to make up for his lack of shooting skill.
@@JB-mm5rm a 35mil/year shooter?
another cooked defender?
Hell no
lol they need to get younger!
Perk never gunna get over how wrong his Batman/Robin take was. Just atrocious
Who is under pressure is the Knicks with all the moves they made
Knicks lookin scary👌👌
Nah
Giannis ain't leaving Milwaukee
yeah he is boy
@@AnonymousUser-ss2qr I doubt it. Guy is loyal to a tee. Watch his doco.
Giannis aint leaving until the current run with Middleton and Dame run its course.
@@tigera6it already did
Dame, Middleton, and the Greek Freak all healthy are Far Scarier then any other Team in the EAST. Period.
Khris will never be healthy again sadly maybe he can return to greatness with momentum from the playoffs but unless that happens we should just blow it up bc we cant compete
If this is what you need to tell yourself, in order to feel good going into next season, go for it.
@@RUSS0okcposterizerkhris was hurt (KD zaza'd him )giving Indiana all kinds of problems, this is first season going into summer somewhat healthy
Not enough D with Jrue gone. Not sure their ceiling is that high anymore. Lopez starting to look pretty ordinary at times this season also.
Facts
ive literally never seen all these teams listed with odds to win the chip relevant at the same time in my life what a time to be alive
This was a rare top notch ESPN discussion
Doc Rivers ???. Giannis will leave Bucks if they trade Middleton by any chance.
As a Celtic fan I am still not worried about the Knicks 1974 is real they have not been to a conference finals since the 90s. Giannis and Lilard scare me way more than all of what the Knicks got.
Ok stay humble tho
Can’t afford to sleep on the Knicks they got the perimeter defense to match the Celtics and Brunson can score with the best of them
They have star power. But as an overall team - they suck.
@@ClassicallyChristion I fell asleep and woke up and I am still not worried. The Bucks and Heat are better than the Knicks.
@@emeraldcrowley9837 Is this on past merit or how they’re currently constructed? Because Milwaukee has regressed defensively and Dame looks worse. And the Heat lost shooting after 2023 while Butler ages. It’s ok tho you’ll just be caught by surprise when Knicks look like champion contenders next year
Lol all the bucks are gonna do is shovel the blame on doc if next season doesn’t go well no matter the injury concerns and old age.
Right, but notice Doc Rivers made sure it got out in the media that he asked management to move two of their core players this summer. If management doesn't get it done we need to start looking at the top period. There's no way you can convince anyone they should just run that core back and the result will be any different.
Aww shut up we just need health and a youngster to emerge 💯
Bucks definitely have the most pressure.
How we won a chip in 2021
@@connornighbor1913 cause you have a generational palyer in his prime, and 1 chip is not enough
I still like Boston if healthy
Knicks are not in pressure
yes they are, they have a superteam now
I hope Giannis is giving Jon Horst nightmares when he's sleeping because Jon keeps drafting all of these wings & guards and then burying them at the end of the bench when Brooke and Khris are getting old. Khris is just getting too old and injury prone to get another 100+ million dollar contract. And they don't seem to have Brookes long term replacement
Maybe the bucks should get Russell Westbrook with the veterans minimum as he has transformed himself into an excellent perimeter defender and is on e of if not the best guy they could get with the veterans minimum if Malik B leaves bc he would take a small pay cut to start
Rather have klay tbh
Might as well keep the team if we're getting westbrook.
@@TayUnkown_23 but the bucks cant get klay
@@RUSS0okcposterizer Ik there trash
This panel is dope. A lil push back in a non combative manner would work well. Like when Steven questioned perk on PG moving without the ball. Leglar explained it away by providing a great example, basically answering the question.
I'm beginning to despise ESPN and their "analyst" takes. The fact of the matter is they have less knowledge and experience of the players they are criticizing...that goes for us fans too. They push agendas and narratives rather than report on the games and players. Why is Bronny dominating the draft coverages when he's a non-factor to any team that would pick him up. Anyone that has watched the games(not just highlights) can see Giannis' passion for the game and wanting to win championships. Unfortunately, sometimes the organization fails to put together a team to win championships and injuries are a thing too. Instead of trying to validate our opinions and putting others down, let's see the players for what they are actually doing which is to realize their dreams against all odds and criticisms of people that aren't qualified to critique them. I just love basketball and basketball is in a good place right now...the media not so much. Sure there are players that want the bag or the glory without the work...but Giannis is a real one.
They’ll be alright, they finna go out and get Caleb Martin, dame was fat before the season started, bruh still put up 25ppg and 7apg, it’s only gonna get nastier next year
See those Vegas odds? Boston is favorite is to win again. Against presumably healthy teams. This ain't no Micky mouse run again.
Steven acting like he forgot who’s on that bucks roster . But their is pressure since they the big dogs of the east but rn it’s the Celtics until further notice
The bucks went 18-20 with Doc and in the 10 games leading up to the giannis got hurt they were 3-7 on a 4 game losing streak
It is a problem for all sports, so Stephen A will give it fair coverage by talking to the fired fbi agent
Everytime perkins talks i swear i lose brain cells and get dumber
Again I know perk is wrong alot, but he is speaking facts yet again today
Tim I'm going to start with you. SAS " I'M GOING TO GO WITH MILWAUKEE"
I hope Klay goes to the Bucks
klay needs to go to lakers for cheap or he'll end up in clipperland
Bucks wouldn't be able to trade for Klay because it would be a sign and trade and both teams are in the 2nd apron so thats against the league rules now.
Why the Raptors traded OG i will never understand, a shooter, points when needed, rebounding smarts / hands
Couldn't pay him how much since the Raptors are in a rebuild. Just didn't make sense.
Sorry ladies i only protect Stewie park, but if the usa omplics teams have concerns talk to cheryl reeves or dawn of south carolina
who the hell is Stewie Park?
The Knicks are under the most o pressure to make this work
they are underrated in terms of talent but they play with heart and so they will be fine. Boston better bring it
SAS is getting really tired.
surotosialistic
New York couldn’t even get out of the second round against the pacers calm down
Where's the mavs? Smh