I think the max lens mod is worth it if you are using a chest mount as it acts as a mini gimbal, but when using a chin mount or anything else associated with the helmet I just feel like its unnecessary as your head will stabilize most footage!
Great video. I did not plan to use 8:7 as wide is not sufficient for MTB POV in my opinion… but now I understood that with 8:7 superview and hyperview is both possible in post in the GoPro Quick app… that ist even better since I do not need to decide between wide/SV/HV when filming and have even 9:16 on top and can also change it up/down in case of wide … that is perfect … I checked 8:7 + post digital lens SV/HV and direct SV/HV it is exactly the same …
Love the look of max hyperview. But hyperview without max lens is amazing too. And I think you mixed the description, the footage with max lens is max 4K.
So in that section on Voodoo, where you cropped from 8:7 to 9:16, there wasn't actually more footage vertically, right? does it just crop off the sides? vs mounting the gopro sideways and shooting in 9:16. I still run the 8 and waiting until I crack the lens before upgrading. Some trails are great with the gopro mounted sideways.
Yep! If you shoot in 8:7 with the new GoPro 12, you can just add that footage to a 9:16 timeline without cropping! I agree with the GoPro 8 vertically. It does product a super nice image! I loved my vertical mount from ProBike 3D
Which settings are the best to record airplane take-off & landing using suction cup on flight window seat? I might use hero 12, 11 and 10. Thank you 👍🙂
Excelente video, en SuperView es considerablemente mejor el video. ¿Sabes sin en Superview activando el HyperSmooth la calidad de detalles de la imagen se reduce? ¿Tienes activado el HyperSmooth en esa parte del video ? Me interesaría obtener los mejores detalles del video , aún que se perciba más movimiento!
What about linear mode? does it have distortion? Like Hero 7 did I use Go Pro Hero 7 Black with PeauPro87 3.37mm lens. So I need want to represent the trail as realistic as possible. Show it as it is.
Great video dude, i am waiting on my gopro12 in 7-8 days ... i was a DJI user , but with this hdr i choose gopro ... here in Bulgaria forest is so dark and contrast , so i need more dynamic range for my footage ...
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful. Dynamic range helps a ton in those dark forest situations! Appreciate you watching and have fun with the new GoPro!
Iam about to buy my first gopro nd will use it for motovloging mainly. Is it worth it to go for 12 instead of 11 just for the hdr and once you select hdr what are the limitations compared to standard profile?
HDR is limited to 4k. I personally don’t think HDR is worth the lower resolution. If I were you, I’d get a hero 12 and shoot 5k superview! You could always shoot 8:7 and then change your aspect ratio after the fact.
Conversion work is a bit complicated. In order to get the GOPRO Superview or Hyperview you need to import the video in the GOPRO app and then choose lens and view and export again. In my experience that creates a video of a lower quality. If you try to crop the 8:7 in Davinci you will not get the same view at all. It works for 9:16 I guess.
Great video for showing the improvements the G12 has for controlling highlight burnouts. A little negative EV adjustment can help save the the highlights in "standard" mode for those previous camera models. I normally use an EV -0.5. Nice skills on the bike park!
5:19 The distortion is horrible, super noticeable for me. That's a NO from me, unless it's possible to remove if with in body lens correction, can you use correction in hyper view? I know it's possible to use Linear mode with Max Lens mod. you sohuld test that. Uncorrected it looks awful.
yo you claimed 5.3k resolution on the Max Lens Mod shots but it Clearly says on its specs it only does 4K @ 60fps and does not give 5.3k resolution?? im curious Why didn't you specify frame rate or other settings? you can use GoPro Labs Beta to get a lot more control over the camera.. also test 9x16 with hyperview lens mod it should be wider than 8x7
Yeah - I had the wrong text on the MLM footage. Only shoots 4k resolution. Thanks for the feedback! Actually just go GoPro Labs set up this morning and starting to tinker
super view looks the best others are too warped and you lose details in the single track textures like a flashback video in hollywood movies effect( Max Lens Mod 2 makes it look like toy video)
As cool as the Max Lens Mod 2.0 hyperview footage looks, being able to see your arms, it's hard to see the trail, and the stabilization for a medium to poorly lit trail like in a forest doesn't do that great. It doesn't look like you're using the GoPro Reframe plugin, which will let you dynamically scale that 8:7 footage into hyperview, so the tire (or whatever is in the center of the screen) still maintains some kind of normal aspect ratio. You can also use it to remove the lens distortion for vertical content. That way you can just shoot in 8:7 always and mess with it in the GoPro app or on the computer.
Agreed! I think 8:7 is the way to go. Thank you for the tip on the GoPro Reframe Plugin! I use Davinci Resolve so not available to me now. Looks like the Quik App is where I will have to go to change Lens/Aspect ratio. Awesome tip - thanks!
@@MTBCoop I use Davinci Resolve Studio strictly for color grading (mostly for my work projects when I'm handling huge black magic raw files), and I do all my editing in Premiere. Davinci is almost too complex for regular editing work for me, and there are plugins, like that GoPro one that aren't there. I wish had Davinci had more developer support or some form of cross compatibility. I also have spent years working in After Effects, I feel like a stranger when I try to do any VFX in Davinci. Duthie looks really fun btw. I'm down near Portland, we have Rocky Point, Sandy Ridge, Larch Mountain, and Post Canyon as our main spots. Seems like there is more up in northern WA.
It has a similar feel but the lens mod hyperview definitely increases the FOV considerably. Base hyperview you can see his wrist and up to his elbow at times, max lens hyperview you frequently see the sleeves of his shirt. It's probably not the way to go for mountain biking, but I'm taking a look at this with chest or shoulder mounted rock climbing in mind and I think the extra FOV might help a lot there. It gets a little cramped with the camera so close to the wall so I think every degree of FOV could help a ton.
This is due to me cropping the image. GoPro Quik app for desktops isn’t release yet so I am unable to change the aspect ratio from 8:7 to 16:9. Once Quik is released we should have better results!
I think the max lens mod is worth it if you are using a chest mount as it acts as a mini gimbal, but when using a chin mount or anything else associated with the helmet I just feel like its unnecessary as your head will stabilize most footage!
100% agree! I''m going to not use the Max Lens Mod as much as I thought. Superview and 5K is just as good without the MLM!
Great video. I did not plan to use 8:7 as wide is not sufficient for MTB POV in my opinion… but now I understood that with 8:7 superview and hyperview is both possible in post in the GoPro Quick app… that ist even better since I do not need to decide between wide/SV/HV when filming and have even 9:16 on top and can also change it up/down in case of wide … that is perfect … I checked 8:7 + post digital lens SV/HV and direct SV/HV it is exactly the same …
Great vid the max 2.0 with hyperview looks sick, can't wait to use at bike park Wales!
Love the look of max hyperview. But hyperview without max lens is amazing too. And I think you mixed the description, the footage with max lens is max 4K.
I was thinking the same 4k max lens .20
The comparison I’ve been looking for. Very nice, very nice 🤙🏿
Thanks for sharing, your footage looks really good. BTW, I came here from the LoamRanger pink bike video.
Great video! If I didn't have a GoPro Hero 11, I would definitely have the 12 right now. I went from an 8 to and 11 and it's been great.
Thanks for the video. Did you have any problems with stabilization in HDR? I really like the result but if the image shakes... it's not really usable.
So in that section on Voodoo, where you cropped from 8:7 to 9:16, there wasn't actually more footage vertically, right? does it just crop off the sides? vs mounting the gopro sideways and shooting in 9:16. I still run the 8 and waiting until I crack the lens before upgrading. Some trails are great with the gopro mounted sideways.
Yep! If you shoot in 8:7 with the new GoPro 12, you can just add that footage to a 9:16 timeline without cropping! I agree with the GoPro 8 vertically. It does product a super nice image! I loved my vertical mount from ProBike 3D
I wouldn’t use HV for mtb but it’s a cool feature. I think 8:7 is a perfect viewer aspect.
I agree! As of now I’m planning 8:7 and then cropping to superview after the fact! Thanks for watching!
Which settings are the best to record airplane take-off & landing using suction cup on flight window seat? I might use hero 12, 11 and 10.
Thank you 👍🙂
Excelente video, en SuperView es considerablemente mejor el video. ¿Sabes sin en Superview activando el HyperSmooth la calidad de detalles de la imagen se reduce?
¿Tienes activado el HyperSmooth en esa parte del video ?
Me interesaría obtener los mejores detalles del video , aún que se perciba más movimiento!
What about linear mode? does it have distortion? Like Hero 7 did I use Go Pro Hero 7 Black with PeauPro87 3.37mm lens. So I need want to represent the trail as realistic as possible. Show it as it is.
If youre using the max lens mod would you film in 4:3 to be able to make the same clip 16:9 or 9:16?
Can you do vertical footage on max hyperview with the lens mod? Or really can just crop it cause it’s so wide
Yes! In Quick app just choose the Wide lens to get the 8:7 format of your video and crop to 9:16.
Great video dude, i am waiting on my gopro12 in 7-8 days ... i was a DJI user , but with this hdr i choose gopro ... here in Bulgaria forest is so dark and contrast , so i need more dynamic range for my footage ...
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful. Dynamic range helps a ton in those dark forest situations! Appreciate you watching and have fun with the new GoPro!
How are you getting 5.3K with max lens mod2.0? highest I can get is 4K?
That was a typo on my end! Max resolution with MLM 2.0 is 4k!
i noticed for the max mod 2.0 shots you said it was 5.3k. I believe you can only shoot 4k with it on ( at least my h12 black only does)
Iam about to buy my first gopro nd will use it for motovloging mainly. Is it worth it to go for 12 instead of 11 just for the hdr and once you select hdr what are the limitations compared to standard profile?
HDR is limited to 4k. I personally don’t think HDR is worth the lower resolution. If I were you, I’d get a hero 12 and shoot 5k superview! You could always shoot 8:7 and then change your aspect ratio after the fact.
What was you protune setting on max lens max hyperview? I like Max lens on chest mount view but thank for the info!
Great Video. How does the 8:7 to 16:9 conversion work? The 16:9 footage looks slightly distorted, is there a way to eliminate this?
Conversion work is a bit complicated. In order to get the GOPRO Superview or Hyperview you need to import the video in the GOPRO app and then choose lens and view and export again. In my experience that creates a video of a lower quality. If you try to crop the 8:7 in Davinci you will not get the same view at all. It works for 9:16 I guess.
Hi to get your 4k videos to You Tube without compression to 1080?
Good comparison. However, I am missing timewarps, especially with Max Lens 2.0
Great call out! I'm trying to think of the best use case for TimeWarps for mountain biking.
the stabilization is incredible!
The chin mount helps a ton, but I agree! Spectacular stabilization!
Would you recommend the chest mount?@@MTBCoop
For my videos, 60fps is a must. I was disappointed that you can’t select SuperView when using HDR and 4K60.
Yeah that is unfortunately a drawback. I have been using the Standard Profile and really enjoying it! Haven't seen the need for HDR to be honest!
@@MTBCoop I was hoping to start exporting and uploading my videos in HDR so I bought the camera. Too bad 30fps looks so jittery on certain displays
@@JasonCaville what about using the LOG profile ? You can still control your highlights in post and use 60fps.
@@rodspov1915 I need to learn how to do this
I think that there is an error, the max resolution for the Max Lens Mod 2.0 is 4k not 5.3K
That is correct! Max Lens Mod only shoots up to 4k. My bad!
So the max lens is that set on auto horizon?
Great video for showing the improvements the G12 has for controlling highlight burnouts. A little negative EV adjustment can help save the the highlights in "standard" mode for those previous camera models. I normally use an EV -0.5. Nice skills on the bike park!
Thank you! I always ran -.5 EV on my GoPro Hero 8. This seems to be a great upgrade in terms of dynamic range. Appreciate you watching!
5:19 The distortion is horrible, super noticeable for me. That's a NO from me, unless it's possible to remove if with in body lens correction, can you use correction in hyper view? I know it's possible to use Linear mode with Max Lens mod. you sohuld test that. Uncorrected it looks awful.
In the last section "wrap up": are you using Max Lens mod? What are your other settings? It's my favorite sequence
yo you claimed 5.3k resolution on the Max Lens Mod shots but it Clearly says on its specs it only does 4K @ 60fps and does not give 5.3k resolution?? im curious Why didn't you specify frame rate or other settings? you can use GoPro Labs Beta to get a lot more control over the camera.. also test 9x16 with hyperview lens mod it should be wider than 8x7
Yeah - I had the wrong text on the MLM footage. Only shoots 4k resolution. Thanks for the feedback! Actually just go GoPro Labs set up this morning and starting to tinker
Sick Vid!
what is your protune settings for this?
I’ll have a video coming out highlighting all settings! Stay tuned!
great video, just wondering how you get your thumbnails to look so good. maybe a tutorial?
I think you did a mistake because it' s not possible to record in 5K3 with the lens Mod. Max record in 4K.
You are right! DOH! Max Lens Mod only shoots 4k. Good catch 😎
You are welcome dude@@MTBCoop
super view looks the best others are too warped and you lose details in the single track textures like a flashback video in hollywood movies effect( Max Lens Mod 2 makes it look like toy video)
100% agree! I do not like the warping the MLM and Hyperview do to the footage. Superview and 5K all the way!
Can you test in the same situation hero 12 vs action 4
I'd love to, but don't have the Action 4. If DJI ever sends me a camera I'd gladly test!
As cool as the Max Lens Mod 2.0 hyperview footage looks, being able to see your arms, it's hard to see the trail, and the stabilization for a medium to poorly lit trail like in a forest doesn't do that great.
It doesn't look like you're using the GoPro Reframe plugin, which will let you dynamically scale that 8:7 footage into hyperview, so the tire (or whatever is in the center of the screen) still maintains some kind of normal aspect ratio. You can also use it to remove the lens distortion for vertical content. That way you can just shoot in 8:7 always and mess with it in the GoPro app or on the computer.
Agreed! I think 8:7 is the way to go. Thank you for the tip on the GoPro Reframe Plugin! I use Davinci Resolve so not available to me now. Looks like the Quik App is where I will have to go to change Lens/Aspect ratio. Awesome tip - thanks!
@@MTBCoop
I use Davinci Resolve Studio strictly for color grading (mostly for my work projects when I'm handling huge black magic raw files), and I do all my editing in Premiere. Davinci is almost too complex for regular editing work for me, and there are plugins, like that GoPro one that aren't there. I wish had Davinci had more developer support or some form of cross compatibility. I also have spent years working in After Effects, I feel like a stranger when I try to do any VFX in Davinci.
Duthie looks really fun btw. I'm down near Portland, we have Rocky Point, Sandy Ridge, Larch Mountain, and Post Canyon as our main spots. Seems like there is more up in northern WA.
Do you use the go pro microphone for audio?
Yep! The voiceover bits were using a Yeti Blue Microphone
This is the one! Thanks
Thanks for watching! Hope you found it useful!
I feel like the MAX2.0 mod has more "vibration" in the dark shadow areas 7:10.
Agreed. I actually haven't used the MLM 2.0 since this video!
I just got the mod, and typical me, doing the research after the purchase. At least it isn't too pricey.@@MTBCoop
Honestly after buying the Gopro Max, its definitely the way to go for MTB
Max lens mod superview :-)
I think I’m with you 😎
Hyperview looks exactly like the lens mod to me
Agreed! Right now I don’t think Max Lens Mod is worth it for mountain bike footage if you have a chin mount.
It has a similar feel but the lens mod hyperview definitely increases the FOV considerably. Base hyperview you can see his wrist and up to his elbow at times, max lens hyperview you frequently see the sleeves of his shirt. It's probably not the way to go for mountain biking, but I'm taking a look at this with chest or shoulder mounted rock climbing in mind and I think the extra FOV might help a lot there. It gets a little cramped with the camera so close to the wall so I think every degree of FOV could help a ton.
In 16:9 the image really sucks, it remains crushed, in 9:16 and 8:7 they are perfect.
This is due to me cropping the image. GoPro Quik app for desktops isn’t release yet so I am unable to change the aspect ratio from 8:7 to 16:9. Once Quik is released we should have better results!
@@MTBCoop Okay, I understand, thanks.
max lens did not give me any 'wow factor' worth another $100....that camera is amazing ootb!
Agreed! I haven't used the Max Lens Mod since this video! I may make another one soon though!
Nice👍🏾
Your bike is so quiet 😂
I literally cleaned it the night before and re-greased my hubs to make them quiet! I hate when my bike makes noises 😂
I don't know why you have to buy a 99 dollar mod for horizon lock when insta360 does it with any mods