Honestly, I agree with everything here. I do aswell think it could be a tossup between Starfire and Raven for wave 0, the only thing keeping me saying Starfire is worse is that im better at Raven then Starfire, however Starfire is actually surprisingly not that difficult to shot far ranged
Honestly I think I agree with all. Evil cyborg being the worst surprised me,after thinking about it. He really does rely heavily on his dome to do his damage and to keep them in place. A problem that evil starfire and ebb don’t have is constantly relying on one move to do their deeds. Sure they all three have one unique move and projectiles but evil cyborg has one that works like a spread shot so he is the worst out of the three.
Got a 24 PR killstreak with Killer Moth, I personally find Hotspot to be the worse character due to hoe much he relies on the AOE of chip damage he leaves with his 2 attacks
Oh yeah my opinions,Starfire is the worst in wave 0 undoubtedly,Raven's Capabilities is just much better if handled by skilled players, Billy is definitely the worst in wave 1 as it has no defensive strat + really bad damage. Killer moth is the worst in Wave 2 because his own abilities are really slow. Bumblbee is definitely the worst in Wave 3 by far,she deserves a rework,and as for Wave 4 its debatable but Evil Cyborg is the worst out of everyone in the roster due having no mobility.
I think wave 1 worst character is billy numerous, (aka duke splitter) Because the clones are slow and weak and can be killed easily -And his "empowered punches" deal mediocre dmg and have extremely low range, similar to starfire's melee -the only way to deal good dmg is with the bomb clone (it never connects) -and also has low health -terrible against: >anti-swarm characters (fury, blackfire , terra ) >Tanks (Slade , cinderblock )
I wouldn't call starfires starbolt mediocre - it's high dps, spammy and has a pretty big aoe. If you can aim it well you can shred opponents from almost any range. Her flight is also much better mobility than anything raven has. Raven is insanely low dps, slow, and teleport is only good for slow melee characters. In a 1v1 raven would get destroyed by starfire due to having basically no way to avoid her projectiles, whereas starfire can just fly out of range or just be hard to hit. Jinx is yeah. Awful character, I agree 100%. Only decent dps at absolute best which is at melee range. Can do some funny attacks but just terrible damage. The fact that she has worse dps than like half the range oriented characters says enough Moth is definitely better than Hot Spot. The pet nuke should serve more as area denial while you're not flying and shouldn't be expected to hit. When you're flying in the air you become really hard to hit, are about as fast as robin, and when using the first move on top of a player the 'weak chip dmg' can do like almost 100 damage total. When you're not flying simply use nuke on your location and it's really hard for people to get to. Hot Spot on the other hand only has decent dps if your opponent literally stands still inside of your zones. If you're not fighting a slow character it'll be nearly impossible to outdps them since they'll just move out of any dps zones. It's way easier to apply persistent dps with killer moth since you can actually follow the enemy and can use area denial. Bumblebee sucks for sure. She has a bunch of health and a longer flight but her burst fire is so much worse than starfires - way smaller aoe and much less persistent. Everyone else in wave 3 is just way better, so absolutely no doubts. Evil cyborg I can probably agree on. Before evil starfire got her comet buff I would've been less sure but as you said he's just a really good character surrounded by OP ones. Trigon is maybe worse in practice though because he gets teamed up on, but in a 1v1 scenario he's very powerful.
wave 0: raven shes slow and the teleportation is not that far wave1: it has to be billy you can dodge the clones and target him wave2: agreed wave3: agreed wave4: evil starfire shes exactly the same
Raven is much worse than Starfire since Starfire can just run and keep shooting someone pretty easily. Locust isnt bad at all, and definitely not anywhere near fire guy. Just learn how to use him, his moves are easy to hit and do a lot of damage and you can use the nuke as area denial. Bumblebee and Evil Cyborg are fair enough. I would argue Trigon is potentially worse than evil cyborg just because of how big of a target you become and how many players will jump you but thats just my personal opinion.
I’d actually say trigon is the worst of wave 4, as most people generally team up against him. E cyborg is one of the most defensive characters in the game, with battle dome. He can do solid damage by using the sonic destruction on the downward arc of your jump, making him not jump as high and able to hit more of the bullets.
@@LewangoalskiANDTomAssistMuller first off, seriously? Bro. Second off, my logic is not flawed, as unless you manage to team op with like 4 faster, smaller characters, you will be seeing an early death by 20 kills. The other 3 characters can be sustained up until a hundred kills or so, with the right person.
@@ttbcommunity idk abt you but Raven used to be able to tp into the air but now she can't and her ability goes on CD if she does try to tp into the air so I think that really hurts her mobility to an already slow character. Her other skills are okay because spamming first skill was so abusable back then.
Bro i hit someone with evil cyborg the 123 combo instant death and super damage to titans😮 first land the first move then activate the second move while they are in the air while you are going to the air activate the third move but make sure they go in and they are just gonna walk on a circle and getting damaged😮 trust me bro make a video about it pls you can master it but the first move is hard to aim so watch out😅 pls make a video about this pls😅 but yeah thats all😊
agree with everything except wave 0. It is definitely raven. sure she can teleport but its not that useful. starbolt isnt great but does decent damage. Also you cant even change the direction of ravens range attack
make a BEST character in every wave video.
Why is there a clip of me saying "cyberblade,yo what is this" for every section of the wave LMAO
Cyber blade. Yo, what is this?
Me getting 47 streak with locust: 🗿
I’ve got 71 with doc bright
Me getting 82 streak with Lightspeed: 🗿🍷
I got 128 with evil cyborg 🗿🍷
@@愛THE-KING愛 Today I got 173 with Trigon🗿🍷
The bad thing about Trigon is that the entire server focuses on you
Honestly, I agree with everything here. I do aswell think it could be a tossup between Starfire and Raven for wave 0, the only thing keeping me saying Starfire is worse is that im better at Raven then Starfire, however Starfire is actually surprisingly not that difficult to shot far ranged
Honestly I think I agree with all. Evil cyborg being the worst surprised me,after thinking about it. He really does rely heavily on his dome to do his damage and to keep them in place. A problem that evil starfire and ebb don’t have is constantly relying on one move to do their deeds. Sure they all three have one unique move and projectiles but evil cyborg has one that works like a spread shot so he is the worst out of the three.
I got a decent kill streak with killer moth, but ive never touched hotspot
Got a 24 PR killstreak with Killer Moth, I personally find Hotspot to be the worse character due to hoe much he relies on the AOE of chip damage he leaves with his 2 attacks
I’m sad this game got forgotten
Oh yeah my opinions,Starfire is the worst in wave 0 undoubtedly,Raven's Capabilities is just much better if handled by skilled players, Billy is definitely the worst in wave 1 as it has no defensive strat + really bad damage. Killer moth is the worst in Wave 2 because his own abilities are really slow. Bumblbee is definitely the worst in Wave 3 by far,she deserves a rework,and as for Wave 4 its debatable but Evil Cyborg is the worst out of everyone in the roster due having no mobility.
I think wave 1 worst character is billy numerous, (aka duke splitter)
Because the clones are slow and weak and can be killed easily
-And his "empowered punches" deal mediocre dmg and have extremely low range, similar to starfire's melee
-the only way to deal good dmg is with the bomb clone (it never connects)
-and also has low health
-terrible against:
>anti-swarm characters (fury, blackfire , terra )
>Tanks (Slade , cinderblock )
I wouldn't call starfires starbolt mediocre - it's high dps, spammy and has a pretty big aoe. If you can aim it well you can shred opponents from almost any range. Her flight is also much better mobility than anything raven has. Raven is insanely low dps, slow, and teleport is only good for slow melee characters. In a 1v1 raven would get destroyed by starfire due to having basically no way to avoid her projectiles, whereas starfire can just fly out of range or just be hard to hit.
Jinx is yeah. Awful character, I agree 100%. Only decent dps at absolute best which is at melee range. Can do some funny attacks but just terrible damage. The fact that she has worse dps than like half the range oriented characters says enough
Moth is definitely better than Hot Spot. The pet nuke should serve more as area denial while you're not flying and shouldn't be expected to hit. When you're flying in the air you become really hard to hit, are about as fast as robin, and when using the first move on top of a player the 'weak chip dmg' can do like almost 100 damage total. When you're not flying simply use nuke on your location and it's really hard for people to get to. Hot Spot on the other hand only has decent dps if your opponent literally stands still inside of your zones. If you're not fighting a slow character it'll be nearly impossible to outdps them since they'll just move out of any dps zones. It's way easier to apply persistent dps with killer moth since you can actually follow the enemy and can use area denial.
Bumblebee sucks for sure. She has a bunch of health and a longer flight but her burst fire is so much worse than starfires - way smaller aoe and much less persistent. Everyone else in wave 3 is just way better, so absolutely no doubts.
Evil cyborg I can probably agree on. Before evil starfire got her comet buff I would've been less sure but as you said he's just a really good character surrounded by OP ones. Trigon is maybe worse in practice though because he gets teamed up on, but in a 1v1 scenario he's very powerful.
once I got 12 killstreak with Starfire. She is not bad.
As allways fire video🔥🔥🔥
Can you make a cha guide for Trigon pls?
do you not know how to play trigon
@@twentysevenmoles485 Yes i do but i don't know if there are techniqes.For trigon of cource.
do you really need those to survive as trigon though
In my opinion, evil cyborg is very op, and evil starfire is the worts of the wave 4, but your list is very good too
wave 0: raven shes slow and the teleportation is not that far
wave1: it has to be billy you can dodge the clones and target him
wave2: agreed
wave3: agreed
wave4: evil starfire shes exactly the same
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Raven is much worse than Starfire since Starfire can just run and keep shooting someone pretty easily.
Locust isnt bad at all, and definitely not anywhere near fire guy. Just learn how to use him, his moves are easy to hit and do a lot of damage and you can use the nuke as area denial.
Bumblebee and Evil Cyborg are fair enough. I would argue Trigon is potentially worse than evil cyborg just because of how big of a target you become and how many players will jump you but thats just my personal opinion.
I’d actually say trigon is the worst of wave 4, as most people generally team up against him. E cyborg is one of the most defensive characters in the game, with battle dome. He can do solid damage by using the sonic destruction on the downward arc of your jump, making him not jump as high and able to hit more of the bullets.
trigon being targeted just proves how good he is your logic is so flawed
@@LewangoalskiANDTomAssistMuller first off, seriously? Bro. Second off, my logic is not flawed, as unless you manage to team op with like 4 faster, smaller characters, you will be seeing an early death by 20 kills. The other 3 characters can be sustained up until a hundred kills or so, with the right person.
I think the most wrost was definitely bumblebee
Why did they nerf Raven.
"Oh lemme just nerf all wave 0 🤓🤓🤓"
The devs have 0 knowledge on how to balance holy shit
I do agree that Toxicator has flawed balancing, but Raven has been buffed in recent years and half of Wave 0 is pretty busted.
@@ttbcommunity idk abt you but Raven used to be able to tp into the air but now she can't and her ability goes on CD if she does try to tp into the air so I think that really hurts her mobility to an already slow character. Her other skills are okay because spamming first skill was so abusable back then.
Bro i hit someone with evil cyborg the 123 combo instant death and super damage to titans😮 first land the first move then activate the second move while they are in the air while you are going to the air activate the third move but make sure they go in and they are just gonna walk on a circle and getting damaged😮 trust me bro make a video about it pls you can master it but the first move is hard to aim so watch out😅 pls make a video about this pls😅 but yeah thats all😊
Idk why i bought both hotspot and locust since after i tried them, umm they sucked and were ass
Star fire is good at spam jumping
Jinx isnt the worst wave 2 character. she has more DPS than kid flash and some good movement
I mean it was either her or Billy. Jinx just has VERY mediocre offense and can die pretty easily.
Bro cyborg its good for me grinding point
agree with everything except wave 0. It is definitely raven. sure she can teleport but its not that useful. starbolt isnt great but does decent damage. Also you cant even change the direction of ravens range attack
Fury is the worst in wave 2
I main jinx and she's rlly goos
I’m sorry…
Im your 600 subscriber
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why jinx i got 20 to 10 kill with her
watch the video!
but yeah out of all id say billy is the least powerfull
The premiere makes me extremely unhard frenzy
make it to 2 hours
ok
I main bumblebee how is she bad
Starfire Clone