Eco-Emotions: How we deal with climate fears | ft.
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- Understanding climate change and how we're unravelling our world is gruelling. And to work as a climate scientist and communicator means you're constantly juggling emotions - from hope to climate anxiety. So where do we find our hope and our courage to continue? And how can we manage our feelings so that working on global warming is not only bearable, but brilliant!
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just to note something I forgot to say in our discussion: as tough as this work can sometimes be, I wouldn't trade it in! it's an honour - and in lots of ways an antidote to despair - to learn and share crucial climate info with you all! so thank you for coming along for the ride! and speaking of which - huge thank you to my patrons for supporting videos like this one. if you want to join amazing patrons like Dave Thomas and Atticus Yang, head over here: www.patreon.com/ClimateAdam
it is game over, get over it!
You're sharing literal propaganda from the scientific theocracy.
Dont ya mean ya really keen on not dying. lol
Tony Heller makes a lot of great videos exposing the corruption and tampering within the data sets. Take a look at
Tony Heller climate data corruption business (part 2)
Thank you so much for having me, Adam! It's so wonderful to be able to share these kinds of experiences with like-minded people, it makes such a difference :)
Just like every 0.1 of a degree makes a difference, every action to try and spread awareness of the sh1tstorm most people ignore every day makes a difference. And you guys have a decent reach, so much respect for keeping on and using it. X
thank you Richard - that means a lot 💚
You know what gives me hope? Listening to two brilliant young scientists speak so honestly and eloquently. I frequently rewatch videos on both channels. Thank you for being here and always presenting what needs to be said and for keeping us all informed and in touch in this changing world.
that's so lovely to hear, Jennifer. so glad to have people like you in this community!
Such a shame that the same speed of change and worldwide cooperation for the ozone layer and acid rain issues hasn’t been applied to climate change.
100% this. though there are lots of important notable differences between the crises (like fossil fuels being interlinked with eeeeeeverything)
All of those are problems and they're inter-related. Don't be" soft-soaked" into believing that Climate Change isn't serious.
Definitely something I've been struggling with. I'm honestly not sure how much it helps, but something I keep in mind is that every thing we do to make the world better, no matter how short it falls of what we need, still makes the world better. World leaders could do nothing about climate change for the next 50 years and it would lead to enormous preventable suffering, but it would still be worth starting to do things even at that stage
Thank you Adam, Ella for walking this tightrope between climate ambition, scientific honesty and hope/courage for what's coming!
And thanks for sharing your thoughts, unveiling a bit of the personal side of covering climate change, I think it's very useful.
Quite frankly, unless folks start to get much more serious about protest (and I don’t mean holding more signs) we’re not going to see change happen fast enough. We are genuinely approaching the point where we have nothing to lose.
I sometimes think of Wynn Bruce and how his extreme protest seemingly accomplished nothing. It happened less than two years ago and I don't see anything being done about it. I genuinely hope there is something that can lead to significant and swift action, but I don't know what that would be.
Needed this video! Been feeling h3lla hopeless these last few years on and off about climate change. Like the message od the video. There has been progress, just NOT ENOUGH at this very moment.
Thank you both for your work, you provide an oasis of sanity.
Thank you for an awesome video on climate grief - and it's not just for climate scientists. Everybody who loves nature etc or cares about our world is watching - in horror - as our planet suffers. It's really gut-wrenching.
I see climate restoration like a puzzle with lots of little pieces coming together to create a big picture of a sustainable future for everyone. Many pieces of the puzzle slowly coming together all over the world
- restorative agriculture (permaculture)
- ecological restoration
- renewable energy
- greener industry & manufacturing
- greener construction
- expansion of urban transit & EV rollout
- greener steel & cement processes available
- waste reduction efforts & the circular economy
Several international agreements have recently been negotiated & being implemented, albeit piece meal
- 2030 Agenda & 17 SDGs
- New Urban Agenda
- Sendai Framework on Disaster Risk Reduction
- the new Biodiversity agreement
- a new agreement on the High Seas
- a new deep sea mining agreement?
I'm actually quite "amused" by participant behaviour at COP 28 vs DAVOS 2024. I'm thinking the UN should hold the climate COPs just after the DAVOS meetings - not before it - perhaps then we will have a different outcome!
We understand the climate crisis in terms of physics & chemistry, but the climate crisis is due to human decision-making & world view... the realm of the social scintists & humanities.
And if most people will live in cities by 2050'ish then climate solutions must also come cities. Check out cities such as Curitiba, Bogota, Medellin, Tirana, Barcelona, Paris, Amsterdam, Utrecht, Singapore awa many cities in Scandanavia etc. The move to a sustainable world is starting to come from cities involving a large proportion of the global population. A "city" in India (I think it's quite small) is now operating on 100% renewable energy, mainly solar. Generally once something difficult has been achieved once, more successes follow soon after.
The pieces of the puzzle are slowly coming together; we often don't see it because they are very small still.
I recently found an excellent YT channel "Planet Critical" with some very interesting interviews & discussions.
Sabina (Science without the Gobbledygook) has also done two recent excellent vids on climate change. Hopefully the narrative is changing; hopefully just in time!
Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are. (St Augustine) Collective action requires the right combination of anger and courage.
Thank you both!
I am not a professional scientist, but I can feel strong "this is fine" vibes...
I find a lot of similarities between fighting for climate change and demanding ceasefire for Palestine. They are a lot of proofs and signs and yet they are many forces that opposes and make things difficult. There's greenwashing and then there's propaganda and lies. And both elicits a lot of feelings of hope, courage, helplessness, fear etc. I hope the community for climate change will grow as much as the community for humanity against genocide is. Community definitely helps a lot in managing the feelings.
We need to support and grow the Birthstriker movement! Proud Antinatalist Birthstriker here!
It is nice to hear the facts with a sense of humanity, humility, and humour. Thank you both.
well thank you Dave for watching and commenting!
The statement of courage is great! We can empower ourselves when we become courageous.
yeah I was really moved by that when I saw Ella's fantastic vid
You got in 2024 where I was in 2010 when it became obvious the Gulf of Mexico oil spill wasn't going to results in Americans change their behavior in any way, although it was also obvious in 2010 that the Point of No Return was already crossed and yet humans wouldn't even make the least sacrifice to aboid the Worst Possible Outcome.
I think the major problem is, while individual action is important, the actions of those in power positions matter much more. I don't mean just governments, I mean the richest 1%. They pollute on a scale greater than the poorest two thirds of the world's population. I have never owned a car, but that's insignificant next to the environmental impact of say, coca-cola or elon musk's jet.
@@gmenezesdea the poor voted for the corporations and billionaires to have that lifestyle so the responsibility is shared by all.
@@sentientflower7891 No they didn't.
@@gmenezesdea in the United States they did. Europe followed suit
@@sentientflower7891 So you mean the only reason billionaires have so much money and multinationals pollute so much is because "the poor" have allowed them to, via voting? That seems incredibly simplistic.
Hi everybody, because the infinite growth society has been threatening life for 80 years, many people have been thinking about this aspect. For one, check out Joanna Macy's work on active hope and the work that reconnects.
The solution is civilisational-scale, so the shift includes a mindset shift from exploitation to regeneration.
Thankyou. Really needed this right now.
Thanks to both of you, phase change disruption is the place C+O2 finds hope and courage. The world is transitioning through a series of disruptive X curves which are creating a positive feedback loop. Phase change requires a lot of energy and sometimes it feels like it may never happen but then... C+O2 works in the 3rd agricultural revolution - think solar powered UGVs, village scale open source technology, fermentation for humans and soils . The Solutions are Beautiful .
I for one really appreciate the amount of pushback you give to climate doomerism. The doomerism is no more helpful than the emissions. Collective action means that we need as many as possible to be on board taking action.
Thanks for keeping us informed Adam. Keep on keepin on. Cheers
Interesting, I'm near 50..and have gone through my worst climate anxieties years ago..I still worry of course but have accepted most people cannot listen or be mature about our environment.. I'm so grateful to all the entrepreneurs and people forging new paths, ideas, businesses, technologies that are helping us transition. ❤
I learned 13 years ago that we are doomed! I feel so sorry for people who still have hope. :( I have been super sad for many years and just getting over it now well i never will be but. I guess the best way to look at it is maybe we will all die before they get to the depths of sadness!
@@jimbob-jn6jzI want you to come back to your comment, re-read it, and ask yourself if that sounds like it's coming from a place of good mental health.
Hope and the courage to act are situated in the human capacity for empathetically driven social cooperation. This is evident in the countless daily expressions and acts of caring, consideration, altruism, and cooperation. The challenge is how to scale this up into transformative expressions of national and global human action....action that recalibrates existing power structures, distributions of wealth/material well-being, and extractive ecological footprints. Such transformative actions will arise when a sufficient mass of folks agree on the agenda and its goals. The challenge is for this to occur before 'the belly eats the backbone'........that is before ecological crises such as sea level rises and storm surges dislocate further 100s of millions, destroy infrastructure including access to food, water etc. to the extent that concern for accessing these overwhelms all.
Love you both! I’m much more cynical than both of you, but know probably a fraction as much as you. I threw in the towel 20 years ago. I appreciate that you did not.
I note the IPCC at their 60th meeting in January just set their work programme for the 7th assessment cycle of the next 5 years. Besides the 3 Working Group reports and a Synthesis report, it includes : Special Report on Climate Change and Cities, Methodology Report on Short-lived Climate Forcers, Methodology Report on Carbon Dioxide Removal Technologies, Carbon Capture Utilization and Storage. All three are important foundations for climate policy decision making in key areas. We need to take hope in science. We mostly have the technical climate solutions, but we need the political systems to take appropriate policy action leadership. Change is happening, but still way to slow.
Thank you both! I’ve been working on climate change issues for ~20 years - getting the climate-denying electric utilities to ditch coal and fossil gas, and QUIT KILLING SOLAR. !@#$!@#$!@#$!23
Lecture Human 101 - When a segment of humans suffer while seeing others living it up they are not going to care for the environment.
Thank you both for sharing this video! I agree that community helps so much with keeping morale around some of these hard, often depressing slogs.
Cheering you both on!
What a great and truly valuable post watching these 2 great young scientists discussing so open heartedly. Although not a climate scientist myself, and a bit older then you two all together (I assume 😅), I also experience similar feelings and haven't given up hope as well. Keep up the great work, see you in a next YT post. Cheers!
Mourning is a long cyclical process. I started my climate mourning maybe six years ago, and gone through at least three cycles. It's best to start early. I started mourning our civilization when I realized fairly early that no progress was being made -- at all. I am still not seeing any movement in doing anything differently that would actually make a difference. So, the process continues, but now I understand the situation and my position in it. If you are wondering, yes, it's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. You are not going to get over it, but it will hurt a little less each year.
Thank you both so much for sharing your thoughts so openly! Climate change and [gestures at everything around in general] can often feel very overwhelming. Great to hear your tips on how to deal with that if you don't have the option to just hide under a rock for... uh... four months.
Courage instead of hope is something I'll have to keep in mind! For actions I've found that a lot of the "classic" things to do, protests, writing to representatives etc, are kinda draining to me. Interacting with strangers is hard lol. Still important and I won't stop doing that! But I hope to find something to make a difference that fits my skillset a bit more. Maybe volunteering for bicycle repairs or something more "handsy" like that. Might help with the getting courage part, although it'd only be a very small impact.
Do you have any ideas of how to support the climate movement that are maybe less obvious? I'm sure there's a lot of behind the scenes work that never gets seen, but is still important. (As in, part-time volunteering stuff. I think there's already websites that list professional jobs that have an impact.)
On a fundmental level. We likely have already passed 1.5c. The tempature seems to work with a 5 to 10 year lag to the increase in co2
Lovely video, thanks. And you're right of course, it is a difficult balancing act to pull off.
For me, the only time I get exasperated with You Tube climate commentators is when they say things like 'we have the technology in place to address this issue' which is simply untrue (yet I hear it all the time). And videos that suggest staying within 1.5 degrees is remotely possible. Yes, there is hope, and there is so much still to fight for, but the first step to making change is recognising where we're at.
Thanks so much both for the important work you're doing.
German scientist: The situation is serious, but not hopeless.
Italian scientist: The situation is hopeless, but not serious.
The #2 thought that gets me over fear of confrontation: if my opponents don't take AGW seriously,
I don't have to take anything THEY care about seriously: EVEN IF I AGREE WITH SOME OF THEIR OTHER CAUSES.
Doesn't matter if they are judges or police.
This is why I admire Sovereign Citizens and Anarchists.
(Don't worry: I also admire Communists, Socialists, & Marxists and thank them for their service.)
My #1 thought: I was forced into this world without my consent, and therefore I have no obligation to obey laws I quantitatively find and prove unfair
Everyone chooses to come into this life, buddy.
Two of my youtube favs doing a collab... This makes me much happier than the news being shared...
ah thank you
"We'd hoped we be doing." "Hopless-ness" (helplessness is not the same). "Actions underway;" *the change is not waiting and also already left the station.* This is not a binary thought of mind. Glad Ela mentioned this towards the end in refering to some one. But this had me from the start of the video since it is used a lot through out, even in the end. Hope is not the best communicative word for the material world/realm, very inactive, fingers crossed and hope for the best vs putting your shoulder under it and your backs into it. (Adam it's not hopes and fears, but; *desires and fears,* more active than a dreamstate illusion, ideology) *Abandon hope.* (Avatar The last air bender, Serpents pass.)
It is depressing Adam, it can be very nihilistic. We need to acknowledge also the facts "science" has.
And yet the opposite is the messaging of; optimism and hope and motivation for change "now",
which sadly is not taking place in realitiy aka the real world at the pace that it should have taken place. Captain Planet! Never came.
With reasons, as you also know. The rings of power do not align yet. COP28
"It's not too late, if we would ...." "we could still avoid the worse." ... [which we should, don't get me wrong]
Instead focus on the scientific fact that the sealevels will rise 5 meters in the future, and probably even more.
We need to adapt to these facts to prevent catastrophes.
These fact should matter motivations in the now.
Not just limiting and "prevention".
What if we farmed the cyanobacteria of the evolution story which created the oxygen world and made it become more habitable, they consumed CO2 and I think they are easier to mass produce than the trees we took down with our deforestations. All links in the chain of life on earth, and its hospitability to life on earth/land.
That is what you should preach in a way. Communicators & communications + messages/messagings; courage, adaptation & resilliance vs hope, Adam & Ella, should we give up? Nope. Should we settle for a bare minimum? Nope. Should we accept the negative aspects? Yes.
We should not just keep focus on the positive of neutral, the negative also matters.
Expect the worse / set the bar low... but aim for the stars/sky. Achievements fester confidence.
There are issues with science, not just the image, branding and PR's.
Science image - facts cold, hard, impartial (it's not always that we are humans after all, not bot. Even if we were we would be programmed by flawed humans)
Humans are not wired like that, neither are scientist above their cultural or academic biases etc.
"From a scientific perspective you can't say that."
This reminds me on how "psychology" was not "allowed" to give a general assesment on Trumps psychology, even if some did warn and got repremanded. It there clearly is some form of censorships in sciences; we should be allowed to scratch behind our ears and raise our eye brows.
Green/renewable energy & powergrids failures, bump in the road, a new problem we overlooked. Patterns we should also take into account in our scientific approach. Don't you think?
If it "had happened" wouldn't that be the news instead? Not things continualy getting worse. Remember it's always darkest before dawn.
Maybe I just accepted my role in society as a Debby downer... we all got our place and role in society.
Honestly, as long as my friends and family are ok, that’s all that matters. And I don’t care if it’s selfish or me not looking at the big picture. I know we’re in for a wild ride but they will have my back. I won’t live to see 2100 but I’ll do what I can.
hope will always be more motivating to me than fear
Love you both and thank you for some positivity. Fear of the future has hijacked my exsistance, I don't want to even get out of bed anymore knowing I brought two children into this.
thank you for your comment. I understand those fears very well. and for me, I try to remind myself that the important choice isn't between hope and fear. it's between action and inaction 💚
I love the work you both do, both in and out of screen. I would really love to see more talk about animal culture tho since it's the easiest change people can make for the largest gains
Lovely stuff
thanks harry!
great video guys
The loss&damage fund was pledged the same amount that an american baseball team just paid for a single player. Trillions per year required (owed to the global south), 1e-5 (1/100,000) of that *pledged* (none actually paid out, and no clear process to ever pay a penny). An intentional insult that corporate media pretended was progress.
100% the loss and damage fund is definitely still waaaaay off evidence indicates lower income countries would need. that said, the very phrase "loss and damage" was so intensely controversial that I think many understandably thought a fund would never see the light of day. so this is a legit groundbreaking first step, but a first step on what needs to be a loooong sprint!
It is a good idea to look for good climate change information.....
The 'scientific perspektive' is *a third of the* picture. You can dig hope there.
Society & politics makes the cake. Cultural tensions are the background. The all-over picture is far worse than scientific options suggest.
Ignoring the complexity of climate, economy, politics-society, ecology ...and then estimate confidence. ...???
You are both taking part in humanity dream of being capable of forming a planetologists like "Dune" or a Teraformers like in "Star trek". I follow your video with admiration and share as much as possible info coming from both of you. As I am a biologist, I do so with a little addition of what will happen to Life at different of its scales if what you say becomes a reality. I'm at your sides to give a perspective on the beautiful limits our planet currently has, how to nurture them and maybe one day navigate safely through them with more maturity of our general knowledge on this subject.
Take the emotions out of scientific objectivity towards ways we need to stop the continued warming even with a miracle of zero emissions tomorrow. The billions of affected people that will starve or be forced to migrate could be spared the catastrophe with climate restoration. Rationality towards climate restoration, i.e. geoengineering is needed to decide the merits, versus scientists getting emotional about the words.
Homes are to big land for em to small and we need to remove grass to save water.
Also we should grow native stuff as it will require lots less water.
Farms should farm native stuff stop chemical use and start using organics like we did before chemicals where a thing in farms.
All that can help reduce water use chemical use and help are own personal health.
We should also plant by seed native flowers shrubs cactus trees whatever along the empty middle bit in freeways and hyways but mostly see it in hyways.
Also off ramps on other side of sound walls as there require 100 or more feet before homes can be put up.
Then when they get big enough you can remove the sound wall and plant there too reducing noise by a lot as plants reduce sound soo well if your in a thick forest you can't hear someone screaming just 200 feet away.
I think 1.5 is gone, 2 is unaviodable and now we are looking at the distriction coming from 3. I have not been happy since I realized that people/govs are not doing anything quick enough and that all animals and plantlife are going to die and humans are responsible. I will be shocked if we can walk out doors in 10 years with out masks.
Every action does help.
This is a great topic, you should return to it. Like ' The Days of our Lives' climate emergency addition. 😊
It will be avoidable if we can instill degrowth as our new system, and reform government. Do a bit of research on degrowth and spread the words of it while getting those you told to do the same. And maybe we can organise a global strike to instill policies
@@tobywindgassen8427Degrowth is what we should do; post growth is what might happen. Collapse is what will probably happen.
@@opossumboyo you don't know that. And that kind of negative talk will get you nothing and more importantly, no where
@@tobywindgassen8427 Positive talk won’t get you anywhere either. Neither of us do anything unless we take action against the problem.
@@tobywindgassen8427
We don't know it for a fact, but it is likely. We can continue to advocate for degrowth, and hold hope for the future, while acknowledging were probably screwed.
sir can you talk about solar storm.too ? social media talk about too much about this
The world isnt ending. Take a look at
Tony Heller twice as fast
I have a solution for Urban commuting to steer humanity away from fossil fuel dependence. We need to put our efforts to solutions, I see a a green and sustainable solution if we can get the word out. Please help spread this new tech before it becomes regulated by a broken system. Efficiency is key to our survival. Thank you for your work in saving all life on Earth! -Cambro Wheels
Thank you for always being honest and realistic but not hopeless. Here in the Netherlands, the (far) right won the elections instead of the green/left wing party (they’re second place but unfortunately far behind in seats), and they pretty much want to cancel as much of the “measures against climate change nonsense” as possible. It’s…hard to be hopeful sometimes.
yeah it's tough with so many countries prioritising jingoism over working towards a better, kinder world...
In desperate moments I turn to tapping. EFT tapping, it helps. I have altered the process a bit to include points at the hips to release the psoas, and turn on the root chakra. I am actually involved in making a video for this now. Also participating in a climate emotions. Community circle has done incredible things for me. There are online opportunities for such a thing and it's wonderful when your group includes people all over the planet.
The process of game over is the obvious aspect that science tries but fails to address. I am alive until I am not but even as I know that my death is inevitable, I cannot live well by obsessing on my mortality so I attempt to live in the moment. Perhaps a tipping point in consciousness may occur when enough humans take matters in their own hands and dedicate lives to sacrificing that very life as a commitment to a higher truth: that individual life means nothing much at all in the larger picture. This is the commitment of war. Which side are you on?
hope you don't mind lots of rectangles ☺♥
Millions of people are now suffering climate anxiety and depression. When the realization of just how bad climate change is now finally registers with a person, it is a soul crushing experience. It is like receiving a death sentence or a fatal diagnosis. The best thing for people to do is to allow themselves to feel the full range of emotions and feelings and to process their intense grief. The loss of sea ice, the loss of normalcy in the weather, the loss of human habitat, and all the other losses that climate change brings, creates intense grief. Grief can be processed. It took me 3 years of intense grieving to reach acceptance. Once a person reaches acceptance, they will feel stronger and even more strongly motivated to do everything they can to save Life on Earth. Climate change is no longer a gradual linear process. It is now abrupt, exponential, and irreversible. In my view, multiple cascading tipping points have now been breached and are combining exponentially to end all life on Earth by 2030.
I'll be back in 2030 to respond.
I couldn't have said it better myself. When I felt climate anxiety as a teenager, it was dismissed as some cute passion that wasn't affecting me directly. If our world was being attacked by zombies or aliens, would they have said the same thing, I wonder?
My climate anxiety has been bad in the past year and I have done just what you said: making space for my emotions, prioritizing my mental health, and doing what I can to help (not just the carbon footprint thing, which even as a teenager I knew was far from enough). I am starting to educate and challenge those around me, making art to increase awareness on the subject, I volunteer, I try my best to abstain from huge carbon footprint activities like driving and eating meat/dairy. I have even been thinking of learning to forage, to get closer with nature and reduce my carbon footprint in terms of food consumption, hoping to inspire others as well. My parents are climate doomerists, but I try my best to not let them get to my head like I did in the past.
@@hannahpapernick-yudin2846 You have to walk a fine line, both accepting the horrible reality of the situation, but also maintaining hope and not giving up
All life on Earth is not going to end by 2030, or probably ever--there's still far too much resiliency left in both ecological and societal systems for that. So we need to fight to change the initia conditions so we can save as many people, species, and as much of ecosystems as possible.
@@karlwheatley1244 Great plan! I'm not throwing in the towel!
Good video, and idea. Thank you
On this topic: what do you think about the Paul Beckwith channel?
Is he a doom scroller or is he spot on?
Or something in between...
Cheers and as always thanks, if not for the good news, then for your smiles...
Paul Beckwith scares me. The fact that James Hansen joins him scares me even more. As a veteran in this space I trust James Hansen . Paul Beckwith looks for bad news and finds evidence to support it - that is not good science.
Thanks for the input. I was looking for a nice "dr john campbell' debunking style vid on Beckwith. But it is not there. Which also scares me.
Looking for good news and support is just as bad. Baseline: utuube is not the place for science - but beckwith did however trigger me to do some nice reading work.@@CplusO2
Bottom line is there's going to be a tough peak to climate change problems - that we know, but if we switch as much as possible as fast as we can from fossil fuels to renewables including hydrogen, the peak will be sooner than later. What I've done to contribute to the green transition is invest in hydrogen stocks. It's only $25,900 US but it's something to help move that tech infrastructure forward and will add more investment over time.
If CC is going to be exponetial...we haven't seen anything yet, and, people my age, mid 70's, aren't to likely to see things get so bad.
But, younger people, including my kids,and grandkids, will see just what exponetial change is.
I always looked forward to the future...many younger don't snymore...nor would I if I were young. But, guess what...
I wasn't always, but now I'm glad to be sn older person...I can't begin to imagine what thingd might be in another few decades. If things keep getting warmer and less predictable...oh, well...
There is no way to create a sustainable economy with an economic system that NEEDS endless growth...lol...lol...
I wouldn’t be so sure on that, looking like we’ll be lucky if the planet is still habitable in 3-5 years but I guess time will tell
@@Jc-ms5vv 3-5 decades is scary enough, even though I will only be hear for maybe the next one or two...3-5 years is a possibility, one I don't like pondering.1
Who has the cop this year?
Take a look at
Tony Heller climate data corruption business (part 2)
IEA optimistic report? I smell oil money!
I believe we can make the world a better place to live! my hope may die only when I will die.
I very much doubt emissions peaked in 2023. I hope I'm wrong but I think those overly optimistic IEA predictions are a disservice to action and change, especially considering that the COP conferences are consistently captured by the oil industry and we continue to blow past all previous estimates for how bad things are already and most of the actions by the emitters are greenwashing. Those reports just make me think of the arguments of "don't worry carbon capture or some technology will save us out of nowhere".
...is counteracted by...
I'm gunna stick with counteractable!
I feel like you guys are the musicians that played music to calm the passengers down on the Titanic when everyone, especially the paupers, clued up to the fact that they're screwed.
Do you really feel that politicians can control the climate ?
Turn off the tv.
The data shows that there may be an additional cause for global warming which may also have much less time lag and so faster remediation.
This is an ALSO not an instead of GHG controls. If it turns out we can control the temperature of the planet by adjusting the dark matter flow only then do you reevaluate the big picture! The data says the lag time from the sun to the temperature at the poles is about 60 days!! If we prove we can control the temperature of the planet by either redirecting or vaporizing Liquid dark matter then we can think about harnessing that heat or redirecting it to Mars to kick start its magnetic field field or if nothing else warm it up. Alternatively if the earth cools to much we could siphon some from Venus to warm the planet. Assuming the vaporization is done around L1 we could see the change in a week. Redirecting from Venus would take longer.
All of the planets in the solar system are showing signs of heating up.
Dark matter phase transitions could be a primary climate driver. If the solar system passes through an area of higher liquid dark matter content the planets cores would all receive more heat due to increased phase transitions thus heating the earth from the inside out. The dark matter content may even be virtually the same but the fact that we are facing into the hurricane may increase it’s effects.
Heating of the planet from the inside out would result in :
Increased ground temperatures
Increased sea temperatures
Increased nighttime temperatures
Increased seismic activity
Increased earthquakes
We are currently passing through the S1 dark Matter stream. At the winter solstice the earth goes from moving with the S1 stream to moving into it.
Dec 12 2016 Venus Mercury alignment tsunami rotation slowed
Dec1 2018 Venus Mercury alignment tsunami rotation slowed
June 3 18:00 2020 +0 29 North Venus Earth conjunction VENUS TSUNAMI facing the Earth day 1
July 2020 Siberian heatwave and Antarctica temperature spike
Feb 11 2021 ice storm in Texas - this may be due to an offset of the dark matter sphere as it shifts after the winter solstice resulting in the movement of the zero G spot to an area of gaseous dark matter which means less internal heat until the dark matter sphere regains equilibrium.
Jan 9 01:00 2022 +4 51 North Venus Earth conjunction VENUS TSUNAMI facing the Earth and the planets were slightly closer than the last conjunction 585 days
March 18 2022 Concordia Station spiked 39 C degrees due to unusual air patterns near Australia
North Pole regions hit 30C above normal
Jan 30 2022 ice storm in Texas
Aug 13 11:00 2023 -7 41 south Venus Earth conjunction VENUS TSUNAMI was past the outward deflection and on its way back 1166 days also Venus was south of the orbital plane
Oct 28 predict a major heat release in the Arctic and Antarctic due to combined tidal affects on the dark matter sphere around the sun in combination with the movement of the barycentre of the Earths location. VENUS TSUNAMI was facing the side and the distance between the planets was further
DATES TO WATCH for tsunami rotation ?? Pre and post rotation rates are needed
Jan 16-25. 2024 Mercury Venus alignment
Mar 07-20 2024 Mercury Jupiter alignment Venus Mars alignment
Apr 11-18 2024 Mercury Earth alignment Jupiter Uranus alignment
May 20-28 Venus Jupiter Uranus alignment Mercury Mars Saturn ? Neptune ?
June 15-23 Mercury Venus alignment
Venus atmospheric temperatures from 2009-2017 also were higher after conjunctions
Venus atmospheric rotation takes 4 days - atmospheric tsunami takes on average 5 (4.9?) days to circle Venus since 1986 this could be caused by an offset dark mater sphere as a result of wobble induced by overflow of LDM every 5 days when the sphere is closest to the sun. This departing kick is what keeps the offset between Venus and its dark matter sphere which then accumulates LDM for 5 more days. The interval from the data I found varies from 4-6 days the 6 day stretch was after the 2022 conjunction which may have depleted its dark matter reserves resulting in a slower tsunami rotation. The clouds at that level take 5.7 days to circle the planet (tsunami speed = 328 kph)
The earths core also has an 8.47 day astronomically induced wobble.(LDM sphere)
NASA issued a climate change warning for Mars after Mariner 9 (icecaps melting)
Neptune has been heating up since 2018
I suspect that your general theme and tone on Climate Change is misleading.
What's the point of all this catharsis? To try and find peace with being a part of creating an extinction event and some redemption arc when there isn't one, and the koalas just putting up with it thinking wtf is wrong with those dudes?
we are doomed, but that's ok it seems with everyone
Do the math. We’re F.
Feces conflagration.
Sorry, ClimateAdam, you would be more convincing if you talked less and argued the case more. Then you would be better able to see the holes in the arguments that claim 'atmospheric CO2 causes changes of a planet's surface temperature'.
All the evidence available is that it is, or a given distance from its star, to a first approximation, only surface pressure influences a planet's surface temperature.
By far the best example is Venus, a planet with a surface pressure of 95 bar. A pressure, which, apart from a closer proximity to the Sun, accounts accurately for the high surface temperature found on Venus.
When we bother to pay attention we realise we’re an extinct species working!
Sadly our children will probably die of starvation.
"Heart in the ice" ???
A cold hearted woman? Unbearable!
Polar bears beware!
I advocate for animal based regenerative silviculture. I struggle to gain any headway with young people who are now convinced that being vegan is the only way to save the planet.
After last year/this year where el nino has not behaved as expected due to increased sea temperatures off the east coast of Australia... I have pretty much given up hope.
You two seem so young. I get why you need hope. But your stoic cheerfulness is painful to watch.
I'm 64 and been working in environmental management issues for 40 years.
The grip of our daily lives refuses to allow for change in any meaningful way...
I am with you 100%
Regenerating a small farm just north of Melbourne with grass fed cattle. Wishing the vegans with so much passion and love for animals (used to be me, too) would transfer their energies and better health (with some animal protein) into improving animal welfare and shifting ALL agriculture away from industrialism.
It is not just the heat off East Coast but also the Southern Ocean has thrown up huge storms all 2023, as would be expected with melting. In Victoria we have had a regular flow of cold fronts through this summer. Has been SO GOOD for us, but a sign of issues down south and at sea. Also the coral sea has been smashed by the 2 slow moving cyclones. Has been a very strange El nino.
Unfortunately, when you do the science and math of the situation of a global scale, to regenerate Earth's ecosystems, we not only must stop CO2 emissions, global beed consumption and cattle populations must drop sharply. Cattle and sheep are just such an incredibly land-intensive way to produce calories and nutrients that their overall global effects are eco-destructive. 38% of Earth's habitable land (former wilderness) has been taken over by raising livestock and their feed (by contrast, all out cities only occupy about 2% of Earth's habitable land). As for vegan diets, the science is VERY clear that vegan, vegetarian, or very low meat diets are what's best for the planet--and by a wide margin. For example, if everyone went vegan tomorrow, we would need 75% less land to feed everyone and we could re-wild and reforest an area the size of North America plus Brazil, with mind-blowing benefits for restoring biodiversity.
Fewer cattle = more wilderness + more wildlife. Period.
please don't paint your nails.
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