@MarcosElMalo2 yet somehow everyone knows what I'm saying. Verily I say, we've witnessed a miracle today. Also, Dan doesn't like definitions. Just sayin.
@@fariesz6786 , you don't know how hard that comment punches for me. My wife went fundamentalist "independent" Christian in the last couple years. She has a coven of women that all follow each other on RUclips and other platforms. I swear, they come up with the most ridiculous nonsense! The jackalope Christianity that they've cooked up is the stuff of Monty Python.
We need an app that allows us to find Biblical justification for beliefs we make up. Such as... Mary was a DJ who created salvation-giving conga lines, a fulfillment of prophecy.
Thank you for covering this. I had bought into the "only the bridegroom gets asked" urban legend myself. Also, I'm glad to see your "do not mock this person" disclaimer. Speaks to your character and desire for the tone of this channel.
I heard a child in the background. A child is learning this nonsense. A child is watching their dad scribble things out of the Bible so he can appear somehow spiritual. Gross.
...Just how many of these creators are on TikTok? It feels like an army of people stringing together random theories based on half-understood Greek or Hebrew words, bad history, and...just...making stuff up. Where is all this coming from?
There are tons of these folks, all hoping to become internet famous and amass a following. And since TikTok just created a new way for creators to monitor their channels, expect even more of them to arise.
People want to be special, recognized, seen as wiser or smarter than others. We always have been that way to some degree. Today I think there is a spirit of isolation and anonymity, the thought that the individual (me) no longer matters, thus posts like this one.
I don't find the idea of a married Jesus all that farfetched and seeing as how Mary Magdalene's is the one name that appears near or at at the top of the list nearly every time any are named, plus that she seems to have been the first one to have seen the resurrected Jesus, she seems to be the best candidate. There are also hints at an intimate relationship in some of the Gnostic text. However, this is nothing like strong evidence and should be taken as speculation only. It definitely doesn't approach anything remotely resembling proof.
The part I love about this story is that even tho Jesus says no... Mary tells the servants to do whatever Jesus tells them. She doesnt acknowledge Jesus' refusal. It has attitude... Like maybe there was a whispered part from Mary that the writer didnt hear... "Listen, I'm your mother, and I'm not arguing right here in front of everyone."
I don’t even know if this dude would be considered an apologist, as they typically try to preserve the generally accepted dogma of their time. The creator in the video comes across as the kind of guy the History Channel would recruit as an “expert” on Ancient Aliens.
I tend to notice that the Gospel according to John says five times over that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved (John 13:23; 19:26; 20:2; 21:7; 21:20), and that disciple appears from the context to be another guy. It makes me wonder whether they were just besties, or something more.
I totally understand that. I am not the most observant Jew by any means but if I had ever treated a religious book like that young man has done, my grandfather would have had a rather strong discussion with me.
Dr. McClellan, I stumbled across your channel a couple of days ago, and really appreciate all your videos, because you provide numerous details which dispel the mythological claims within the Tanakh, and in the New Testament. What I would love to see is a reaction video to claims made by Michael Brown (a Jewish Christian apologist and Hebrew / Greek scholar), and William Lane Craig on their claims of biblical inerrancy, and that Jesus of Nazareth was prophesied in the Tanakh.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 From that perspective, but Michael Brown is genealogically Jewish nevertheless. But even Maimonides begins his statement with, "A Jew..." and then says, "... is considered".
@@What_If_We_Tried - the tragedy here is that @hrvatskinohid1048 paid $250.00 US for a class on Judaism to a Noahide group and now thinks he is a learned Torah scholar. He pops up from time to time making silly pronouncements. he especially likes using Maimonides.
I always thought it strange that Mary came to Jesus for more wine. I would wonder that maybe it was his wedding and his mom was like, "we need more wine!" Why would she come to Jesus? And when Jesus told he, "My hour has not come," does that mean Mary knew Jesus' future as well? As always, more questions, no answers.
The usual theological explanation is that Mary comes to him about the wine because she knows his capability of working miracles. He responds "my hour has not yet come" to let her know that he's not ready to start working miracles in public, but decides to do so at her request.
Damn! Here I thought we could be getting another holiday off from work. I wonder what month/day would be appropriate to have it? I love a May wedding, lol!
That content creator needs repentance. Scribbling out the Holy Word and preaching a false gospel does not bode well with our Master. I pray that our Lord will soften his heart and guide him towards the narrow path.
The only wedding that Jesus will be an integral part of is when he marries the church, also known as us believers, in heaven. Therefore, Jesus could not marry anyone while on earth.
despite this guys bumbling remarks showing Jesus to be married . . Um yeah a much better argument can actually be made that Jesus was in fact married. Even the gospel of John itself, which is not authored by John, may have been written by the wife of Jesus, ie, the disciple whom Jesus loved . thats why this gospel (falsely called John) has so many intimate details about Jesus that others do not nor could have possibly known. Including Jesus' own wedding where he performed his first miracle
When I was a parole officer, most offenders I supervised who had tattoos on their faces usually had a gang or mental illness issue, this guy struck me as being in the mental illness category.
I appreciate your no nonsense comments that sound authorative and balanced... personally I dont care cos the bible is fiction IMO but do like to study all positions on the content....
The married is not like us...bible talk about a union( married) spiritual. Not carnal..... the union of the mind ogf god..with the choice one..eho is a sescendent of mary magdalene...
OK, so the original post guy is just lying. That's clear. So what is his motivation?. Is it just for kicks? Is there a lot of money to be made in these Tic-Tock conspiracy videos??
you said it yourself the Greeks wrote the bible, Did you know God lives within you but the church won't tell you ! Jacob seen God in a place called pineal. GENESIS 32:30 the pineal gland is in the brain , full of Cryistals that's where the Greeks get KRISTOS meaning CHRIST
Some 19th century LDS leaders did hold hold a view that Jesus was married and even a polygamist but those views were never promoted widely in the our church. In those days as with today, there is no official position so LDS can believe whatever they want on this subject. I for one have no concrete conclusion on the subject though I lean Jesus being more likely to have been married to Mary than not. Personally I put it at a 60/40 chance. So if I am wrong it is no big deal to me as there is a reasonable chance I may be wrong.
Orson Hyde, an early apostle, made some fairly strong speculation on it but it was controversial even then (and also falls into the invitation trap.) It's never been canon.
Interesting getup the dude has on: knit cap with Mason’s symbol, oversized Harry Potter glasses, a nose ring, multiple scalp, neck and facial tattoos. And then he has scratched out a key phrase and scribbled all over the passage. Yeah, definitely someone who inspires confidence in his offbeat amateur interpretation of this passage.
If wife mean woman according to hou...read the word woman in the Bible mean Matrix...so you telling me the matrix is the mother of jesus...m y lady mean the image of god...the eye........ gynai mean madam...or adam in reverse... gynai or gina...one of the names of virgen Mary
Excellent, as always. However, two tangent thoughts... 1) I'm reading a book called "The Immortality Key" by Brian Muraresku, where he argues that John framed the turning of water into wine at the wedding as a parallel construction to the Dionysian myth, allowing the new Jesus "cult" to piggyback off older, local mythology (starting at g 198.) I believe I know that the "moral of the story" in John was the old wine skin being Judaism and the new was Jesus's new religion, but do you think there might be something to the Jesus/Dionyses idea? Not that they were equivalent, but that the Dionysian mythological structure allowed John to frame a narrative that resonated with older expectations. 2) Talking about the whole "was Jesus married" hypothesis, can you imagine any reason Leonardo would have though JC WAS married? I know the arguments against the Last Supper holding "hidden messages" about JC and Mary being married and having a child, but most/all of them can be shown to be... if not wrong, then at least weak. Specifically, compare the image of "John" in the Last Supper and Mary in the "Virgin on the Rocks." They are almost identical. This is not to say I think JC was married, but I think Leo did. Anyway, as I said... every one of your episodes is excellent.
Nevertheless, the scriptures are peppered with redactions, alterations etc which often do not make sense. the are allegidly all sort of 'gospels" which were deemed at the councils of Nicaea to be in conflict with doctrines/narratives of the day according to the catholic church. There was ample opportunity to do "revisionst history" on any documents to reflect what was being claimed or denied by the church. By narrowing the number of gospels, and probably altering the ones that were deemed canonical, they could alter anything they saw fit to do so. Making Jesus celebate and unmarried is a common theme in many religions to put the leader or Massiah above the pack. It is much the same for 'virgin birth" claims, to elevate important women, such as the mother of a divine or a massiah, to be all pure and holy, and not part of the run of the mill, great unwashed. If you want a narrative that suggests divinity, then you find ways to make them special as humans, and throw in a few miracles for good measure. So you have a 30-somehting guy, unmarried, and probably some sort of carpenter/tradesman who was a good orator, allegedly a progressive and reasonably well educated, perhaps with a striking physical appearence, possible blue or green eyes. The educated thing is a bit of a puzzle too. Jesus's reported rhetoric was Helenistic progressivism, which suggests he either studied [which means money and status] or had lots of contacts with said progressives with knowledge of the Helenistic progressivism! Taken together, this suggest that both he and Mary M, got married, and could both claim to some sort of wealthy and or semi- noble, heritage. Jesus didn't go on any anti-slavery rants, and no one could mistake him for having any deep feminist sympathies. Maybe I am expecting too much of Jesus as a "child of his times", but as the son of a good god it is inexplicable. And there is a lot more spin-doctoring about the whole Christianity thing. At that time, monothestic relgions faced competition from blood-sacrifice, polytheistic regimes. This explains both the trinity idea, AND the symbolic death-sacrifice of Jesus in the narrative. It could hardly be called a real blood sacrifice if Jesus was ressurected after a day or so. So Christians were definately pandering to the religious "market" of theological ideas. New twists, lots of miracles and yet the retention, in toned down form, of both polytheism, and the blood-cult thing. Not saying that I have proven a thing of course. But it does give some traction to the idea that the narratives could be very economical with the truth, and thus lose some credability as actual histories, or in JC's case, credible biographies. And for many centuries, before the printing press and vernacular editions of the bible, priests through the ages could tell people anything they wanted, without much fear of being exposed.
No, he didn't. The Bible explicitly mentions several women accompanying him, sponsoring him with their fortunes, one even being the wife of a high-ranking Jewish official.
It shouldn't be much of a surprise that in a highly patriarchal and even misogynistic culture that women would not have featured roles in the literature. However, there is frequent mention of women as being part of Jesus' retinue.
Who's hating the Bible? Biblical scholarship was literally started because believers wanted to know more about where the Bible came from, so they started scrutinizing the text deeper than on merely a surface level. And if Dan is "nonsense" and the person he's answering is a "fool," then by all means, cite the scholarly papers you've written on the subject. Go right ahead!
@@tchristianphoto Modern Biblical scholarship is mostly criticism of Scripture. There has been seminars , whole institutes , etc set up to try denigrate Scripture, attack the Divinity of Christ and so on, no other ancient writing has had the onslaught the the Bible has endured, but that alone prooves its something far above any other book ever written , because it is Divinely inspired. If it is not then Christianity is false and pointless. After 2000 years of Christianity are we going to say we ve been wrong all along about Scripture and its Doctrine and believe Dan. The Bible has prooved itself over and over.
"You mean Jesus?" Not 20 seconds in and we're already dropping the mic. This is gonna be a good one. 🤣
Dan mispronounced Jebus. 😂
Mic drop signifies the finish. It means you are done speaking. If the mic drop occurred 20 seconds into the video, it would be a 20 second video.
@MarcosElMalo2 yet somehow everyone knows what I'm saying. Verily I say, we've witnessed a miracle today.
Also, Dan doesn't like definitions. Just sayin.
The fact that he just crossed part of it out made actually laugh out loud!😂
Honestly 😂
@@tsemayekekema2918 Or lack of honesty as the case may be
@@iamfiefo 😂
That's when I stopped watching, read the comments and realised I'm not alone. No further watching needed. That's just insane
Mighty cringe I would say.
No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: he is always convinced that it says what he means.
George Bernard Shaw
the only blunder Shaw made here is not to anticipate that women would be just as crazy
@@fariesz6786 , you don't know how hard that comment punches for me. My wife went fundamentalist "independent" Christian in the last couple years. She has a coven of women that all follow each other on RUclips and other platforms. I swear, they come up with the most ridiculous nonsense! The jackalope Christianity that they've cooked up is the stuff of Monty Python.
I'm naming my punk band Gamma Nu Consonant Cluster :D
Willing to bet that there's a sorority that already has that name. And not a good one either. 🤣
i'm sorry but that's what i'm naming my noise project.
Alright, let's hear it.
ah yiss, art punk! i already dig it
We need an app that allows us to find Biblical justification for beliefs we make up. Such as... Mary was a DJ who created salvation-giving conga lines, a fulfillment of prophecy.
i swear i read about that in Nabbateans
Oh yeah, Paul's letter to the Romulans predicted that the Romulans would invent an AI capable of doing just this.
"Mawage. Mawage is what bwings us together....today."
We need to find da sauce of da wuv of God, W-megaman! If we can find da wuv, we can find da Twinahtee!
Thank you for covering this. I had bought into the "only the bridegroom gets asked" urban legend myself. Also, I'm glad to see your "do not mock this person" disclaimer. Speaks to your character and desire for the tone of this channel.
I’ve heard of people omitting stuff out of the Bible to fit their narrative, but come on! This guy wasn’t even trying to make it subtle!
I heard a child in the background. A child is learning this nonsense. A child is watching their dad scribble things out of the Bible so he can appear somehow spiritual. Gross.
This is what corkboard and yarn conspiracy theories look like when they are confined to a single chapter of the Bible.
Dude literally wrote "already drunk" in the margin. I agree dude.
He moves that pen really well, though. Therefore he must be right.
(Thank you.)
What I learned from watching this video is that a passage in The Gospel According to John predicted that a hurricane will hit the coast of Georgia
I like this crossing things out that you dont like aporoach to study.
I think theres a great future for it
He crossed out Jesus, and wrote in nonsense in crayon.
...Just how many of these creators are on TikTok? It feels like an army of people stringing together random theories based on half-understood Greek or Hebrew words, bad history, and...just...making stuff up. Where is all this coming from?
There are tons of these folks, all hoping to become internet famous and amass a following. And since TikTok just created a new way for creators to monitor their channels, expect even more of them to arise.
People want to be special, recognized, seen as wiser or smarter than others. We always have been that way to some degree. Today I think there is a spirit of isolation and anonymity, the thought that the individual (me) no longer matters, thus posts like this one.
Crossing out words is usually more obvious than just not acknowledging them 😂
I don't normally use exaggerated words to describe debate or analysis. Words like "wiped the floor with," "destroyed," or "torn apart," but...
I don't find the idea of a married Jesus all that farfetched and seeing as how Mary Magdalene's is the one name that appears near or at at the top of the list nearly every time any are named, plus that she seems to have been the first one to have seen the resurrected Jesus, she seems to be the best candidate. There are also hints at an intimate relationship in some of the Gnostic text.
However, this is nothing like strong evidence and should be taken as speculation only. It definitely doesn't approach anything remotely resembling proof.
His presentation isn’t entertaining like Holy Blood, Holy Grail was. Shorter though.
The part I love about this story is that even tho Jesus says no...
Mary tells the servants to do whatever Jesus tells them. She doesnt acknowledge Jesus' refusal.
It has attitude...
Like maybe there was a whispered part from Mary that the writer didnt hear...
"Listen, I'm your mother, and I'm not arguing right here in front of everyone."
The writer of Matthew didn’t hear anything, because the writer wasn’t there.
@@PC-kd7dj Wow
You're so uptight
You miss the entire point
You must be fun at parties
Okay class, let's demonstrate how we can read a story INTO the Bible.
When you have to scratch out a phrase that defeats your argument, you obviously already know your argument is wrong.
Gotta lie to be an apologist.
He ain't an Apologist: just ignorant like u seem to be!!!
I don’t even know if this dude would be considered an apologist, as they typically try to preserve the generally accepted dogma of their time. The creator in the video comes across as the kind of guy the History Channel would recruit as an “expert” on Ancient Aliens.
I tend to notice that the Gospel according to John says five times over that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved (John 13:23; 19:26; 20:2; 21:7; 21:20), and that disciple appears from the context to be another guy. It makes me wonder whether they were just besties, or something more.
Most of the time, once I see scribbling in a Bible, I can’t take the person’s words seriously
I totally understand that. I am not the most observant Jew by any means but if I had ever treated a religious book like that young man has done, my grandfather would have had a rather strong discussion with me.
He’s a special one
Poor kid thought he knew what he was talking about! Wow!
Even you don't know...the death don't know nothing.
@janmed1592 Everything that's comes out of your mouth is a lie. That old geezer in you..get behind me.
@janmed1592 wow you're smart.
Dr. McClellan, I stumbled across your channel a couple of days ago, and really appreciate all your videos, because you provide numerous details which dispel the mythological claims within the Tanakh, and in the New Testament.
What I would love to see is a reaction video to claims made by Michael Brown (a Jewish Christian apologist and Hebrew / Greek scholar), and William Lane Craig on their claims of biblical inerrancy, and that Jesus of Nazareth was prophesied in the Tanakh.
No such thing. A Jew who serves false gods is considered like a gentile in all regards (Maimonides, Avodat Kochavim 2:5).
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 From that perspective, but Michael Brown is genealogically Jewish nevertheless. But even Maimonides begins his statement with, "A Jew..." and then says, "... is considered".
@@What_If_We_Tried - the tragedy here is that @hrvatskinohid1048 paid $250.00 US for a class on Judaism to a Noahide group and now thinks he is a learned Torah scholar. He pops up from time to time making silly pronouncements. he especially likes using Maimonides.
The Masonic symbols on the hat give that authoritative touch.
Thanks!
I always thought it strange that Mary came to Jesus for more wine. I would wonder that maybe it was his wedding and his mom was like, "we need more wine!" Why would she come to Jesus? And when Jesus told he, "My hour has not come," does that mean Mary knew Jesus' future as well?
As always, more questions, no answers.
The usual theological explanation is that Mary comes to him about the wine because she knows his capability of working miracles. He responds "my hour has not yet come" to let her know that he's not ready to start working miracles in public, but decides to do so at her request.
@@tchristianphoto So Mary is supposed to be in on the ministry? Of course, the virgin birth probably tipped her off that something was up.
I knew the Bible didn't state Jesus was married, but was told the lost book of Mary Magdalen is where the story came from. Any truth to that?
Great video - I shall like and subscribe!
Damn! Here I thought we could be getting another holiday off from work. I wonder what month/day would be appropriate to have it? I love a May wedding, lol!
That is one of the most dishonest things I've ever seen.
Check out Flat Earthers. Flat Earth debunker scimandan is a good portal.into their world.
C'est magnifique!
The t-shirt is Super!
Not as logical as I would expect from a guy with a face tatoo
Amazing, you have read the original Lord of the Rings. Learning Greek but reading the same book is a nice touch. Other novels are available.
It looks like he was taking notes from a sermon, possibly - which would mean he's repeating something he was taught in some fringe church.
Awesomeness
Oh dear
That content creator needs repentance. Scribbling out the Holy Word and preaching a false gospel does not bode well with our Master. I pray that our Lord will soften his heart and guide him towards the narrow path.
Who’s wedding was this?
I do not believe it's ever stated in the gospels.
Wow
No, J and MM were not married. Just friends with benefits.
Jesus told me he disapproves of this poster's lies.
He then served me a burrito from his cart and asked if I wanted a Jarritos™ to wash it down.
Good video, Dan.
The only wedding that Jesus will be an integral part of is when he marries the church, also known as us believers, in heaven. Therefore, Jesus could not marry anyone while on earth.
despite this guys bumbling remarks showing Jesus to be married . . Um yeah a much better argument can actually be made that Jesus was in fact married. Even the gospel of John itself, which is not authored by John, may have been written by the wife of Jesus, ie, the disciple whom Jesus loved . thats why this gospel (falsely called John) has so many intimate details about Jesus that others do not nor could have possibly known. Including Jesus' own wedding where he performed his first miracle
Ah divine providence at work 😂
Where do these people come from?
Is this Gnostic mythology?
I'm just gonna make stuff up and pretend to be a Greek speaking scholar of the bible and maybe my video will make a few bucks.
God! The lengths these people will go to create and then defend their absurd takes. What is it about a search for truth they find so repulsive?
Jesus got uninvited and married off! 😂 how Alexandrian!
how to make those difficult Bible bits fit your interpretation. 1. Take black pen…
When I was a parole officer, most offenders I supervised who had tattoos on their faces usually had a gang or mental illness issue, this guy struck me as being in the mental illness category.
Dan, were all the Greek canon texts in all-caps?
Lowercase letters didn't exist until the Middle Ages.
@@ZorValachan Confirmed. Thanks
I appreciate your no nonsense comments that sound authorative and balanced... personally I dont care cos the bible is fiction IMO but do like to study all positions on the content....
Said the guy with the freemason symbol and a face tattoo...
I'm sorry I know it's Prejudice but I just can't take someone seriously when they have face tattoos
The married is not like us...bible talk about a union( married) spiritual. Not carnal..... the union of the mind ogf god..with the choice one..eho is a sescendent of mary magdalene...
What's missing from all of OP's nonsense is amy mention of Mary Magaldalene.
What was that guy smoking? 🤓
i would call that guy a real γυνηcorn but i feel like that would be insulting towards women..
..and unicorns
..and like _several_ languages
Worst use of a Beatles song ever.
OK, so the original post guy is just lying. That's clear.
So what is his motivation?. Is it just for kicks? Is there a lot of money to be made in these Tic-Tock conspiracy videos??
you said it yourself the Greeks wrote the bible,
Did you know God lives within you but the church won't tell you !
Jacob seen God in a place called pineal. GENESIS 32:30
the pineal gland is in the brain , full of Cryistals that's where the Greeks get KRISTOS meaning CHRIST
Clearly today's content creator "does his own research", LOL.
Can you confirm that a Mormon prophet said that Jesus was married to Mary and Martha?
Some 19th century LDS leaders did hold hold a view that Jesus was married and even a polygamist but those views were never promoted widely in the our church. In those days as with today, there is no official position so LDS can believe whatever they want on this subject. I for one have no concrete conclusion on the subject though I lean Jesus being more likely to have been married to Mary than not. Personally I put it at a 60/40 chance. So if I am wrong it is no big deal to me as there is a reasonable chance I may be wrong.
Orson Hyde, an early apostle, made some fairly strong speculation on it but it was controversial even then (and also falls into the invitation trap.) It's never been canon.
Interesting getup the dude has on: knit cap with Mason’s symbol, oversized Harry Potter glasses, a nose ring, multiple scalp, neck and facial tattoos. And then he has scratched out a key phrase and scribbled all over the passage. Yeah, definitely someone who inspires confidence in his offbeat amateur interpretation of this passage.
Dr. Logic gotten again……
If wife mean woman according to hou...read the word woman in the Bible mean Matrix...so you telling me the matrix is the mother of jesus...m y lady mean the image of god...the eye........ gynai mean madam...or adam in reverse... gynai or gina...one of the names of virgen Mary
Dear God in heaven, the Pharisees were so based. I love them.
I would expect better logic from a guy with a face tattoo.
Excellent, as always. However, two tangent thoughts... 1) I'm reading a book called "The Immortality Key" by Brian Muraresku, where he argues that John framed the turning of water into wine at the wedding as a parallel construction to the Dionysian myth, allowing the new Jesus "cult" to piggyback off older, local mythology (starting at g 198.) I believe I know that the "moral of the story" in John was the old wine skin being Judaism and the new was Jesus's new religion, but do you think there might be something to the Jesus/Dionyses idea? Not that they were equivalent, but that the Dionysian mythological structure allowed John to frame a narrative that resonated with older expectations.
2) Talking about the whole "was Jesus married" hypothesis, can you imagine any reason Leonardo would have though JC WAS married? I know the arguments against the Last Supper holding "hidden messages" about JC and Mary being married and having a child, but most/all of them can be shown to be... if not wrong, then at least weak. Specifically, compare the image of "John" in the Last Supper and Mary in the "Virgin on the Rocks." They are almost identical. This is not to say I think JC was married, but I think Leo did.
Anyway, as I said... every one of your episodes is excellent.
I do not recall where I read it but another symbolic interpretation that the water changing to wine was a mass conversion.
Very interesting. @@EricMcLuen
But remember, the Bible is only correct inasmuch as it is correctly interpreted! So says Joseph Smith. 😂🤮
What's next, biblical mad libs?
Nevertheless, the scriptures are peppered with redactions, alterations etc which often do not make sense.
the are allegidly all sort of 'gospels" which were deemed at the councils of Nicaea to be in conflict with doctrines/narratives of the day according to the catholic church.
There was ample opportunity to do "revisionst history" on any documents to reflect what was being claimed or denied by the church.
By narrowing the number of gospels, and probably altering the ones that were deemed canonical, they could alter anything they saw fit to do so.
Making Jesus celebate and unmarried is a common theme in many religions to put the leader or Massiah above the pack. It is much the same for 'virgin birth" claims, to elevate important women, such as the mother of a divine or a massiah, to be all pure and holy, and not part of the run of the mill, great unwashed.
If you want a narrative that suggests divinity, then you find ways to make them special as humans, and throw in a few miracles for good measure.
So you have a 30-somehting guy, unmarried, and probably some sort of carpenter/tradesman who was a good orator, allegedly a progressive and reasonably well educated, perhaps with a striking physical appearence, possible blue or green eyes. The educated thing is a bit of a puzzle too. Jesus's reported rhetoric was Helenistic progressivism, which suggests he either studied [which means money and status] or had lots of contacts with said progressives with knowledge of the Helenistic progressivism!
Taken together, this suggest that both he and Mary M, got married, and could both claim to some sort of wealthy and or semi- noble, heritage.
Jesus didn't go on any anti-slavery rants, and no one could mistake him for having any deep feminist sympathies. Maybe I am expecting too much of Jesus as a "child of his times", but as the son of a good god it is inexplicable.
And there is a lot more spin-doctoring about the whole Christianity thing. At that time, monothestic relgions faced competition from blood-sacrifice, polytheistic regimes. This explains both the trinity idea, AND the symbolic death-sacrifice of Jesus in the narrative. It could hardly be called a real blood sacrifice if Jesus was ressurected after a day or so. So Christians were definately pandering to the religious "market" of theological ideas. New twists, lots of miracles and yet the retention, in toned down form, of both polytheism, and the blood-cult thing.
Not saying that I have proven a thing of course. But it does give some traction to the idea that the narratives could be very economical with the truth, and thus lose some credability as actual histories, or in JC's case, credible biographies.
And for many centuries, before the printing press and vernacular editions of the bible, priests through the ages could tell people anything they wanted, without much fear of being exposed.
Jesus preferred the company of men. ;)
Especially the night with the naked disciple😂
@@JopJio
And Jesus said “alright, let’s see it”.
Yes, I am ashamed of this joke.
@revilo178
Slightly less so, I’d imagine. :)
No, he didn't. The Bible explicitly mentions several women accompanying him, sponsoring him with their fortunes, one even being the wife of a high-ranking Jewish official.
It shouldn't be much of a surprise that in a highly patriarchal and even misogynistic culture that women would not have featured roles in the literature. However, there is frequent mention of women as being part of Jesus' retinue.
More nonsense from Dan ridiculing another fool, Gods Word is forever settled in Heaven it will be here long after the Bible haters are gone.
How cute. Oliver is back with another cheapshot, factually devoid opinion.
Citation needed
Who's hating the Bible? Biblical scholarship was literally started because believers wanted to know more about where the Bible came from, so they started scrutinizing the text deeper than on merely a surface level. And if Dan is "nonsense" and the person he's answering is a "fool," then by all means, cite the scholarly papers you've written on the subject. Go right ahead!
@@tchristianphoto Modern Biblical scholarship is mostly criticism of Scripture. There has been seminars , whole institutes , etc set up to try denigrate Scripture, attack the Divinity of Christ and so on, no other ancient writing has had the onslaught the the Bible has endured, but that alone prooves its something far above any other book ever written , because it is Divinely inspired. If it is not then Christianity is false and pointless. After 2000 years of Christianity are we going to say we ve been wrong all along about Scripture and its Doctrine and believe Dan.
The Bible has prooved itself over and over.
Thanks!