HS242 Herbert Junior Mk2 surface grinder Part 9 - Paragon (re)paint

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @retromechanicalengineer
    @retromechanicalengineer 7 месяцев назад +2

    I've used Paragon a number of times Paul. Professional quality stuff. Even a slap dash merchant like me can get a good finish.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hiya, yep I was very pleased with it. Proper stuff. Cheers

  • @eyuptony
    @eyuptony 7 месяцев назад +2

    Your surface grinder looks great in the new colour. Good to see a British company offering that service.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Tony yes they are great. I need to find some more Brit companies. Cheers

  • @lv_woodturner3899
    @lv_woodturner3899 7 месяцев назад +2

    Quite the story. Thanks for sharing. Very good by Paragon. Sounds like a good company to deal with.
    I like the lighter grey and the original. It would be a difficult choice for me. The machine looks very good.
    I love that colour chart.
    Dave.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks Dave. I've learnt that colour matching is a complex topic and also there are many colour schemes. There are at least 2 RAL schemes. BS 381 originally 1930 but with revisions in 1945, 1948 & 1964. And then all the others .... Cheers

  • @russellwall1964
    @russellwall1964 7 месяцев назад +5

    Wow! Paragon really did come through for you and then some!! Glad to see you supporting your country’s manufacturing. Every country could use more of that. Even though this was not a ‘machining’ video, I still enjoyed it immensely. Nice work as always!

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Russell, I aim to make most of my videos about machining or at least in the shop. Just occasionally I throw in a wild-card topic if I think people may be interested but still that would normally be at least something technical and/or practical. As an example, in a couple of months I'll do an update on my solar panels and battery, after 1 year in service. Cheers

  • @camillosteuss
    @camillosteuss 7 месяцев назад +3

    The paint looks damn good! And the paint company really did their best in regards to their efforts to get the job properly done in every regard...
    Best regards!
    Steuss

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Steuss 👍

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap8399 7 месяцев назад +2

    Yes, been using Paragon paints for several years, excellent product. Well done for chasing courier, DPD is a top courier.
    All painting needs narrative Paul, helps the paint to dry.
    Love that colour chart.
    Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi John, it is hard to think what to say whilst painting. There were many topics that did not make it to the final vid. Cheers

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hello Paul. Thank you for the lovely chat whilst you painted the machine. So much better than simply watching the paint dry. That said, full credit to Paragon. They certainly went over and beyond. It’s great that good British companies still exist.
    I have used Paragon before and do also recommend their paints. However I’ve struggled matching paints in the past by not knowing whether to choose gloss, semi gloss or indeed satin. As machines age they loose their gloss and it’s tempting to steer away from gloss. But in doing so, the less glossy paints I find are harder to apply by brush. 👍😀
    PS The surface grinder looks resplendent in its new “original colour”. Well done 👏👏

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks Andrew. Cheers

  • @carlwilson1772
    @carlwilson1772 7 месяцев назад +2

    Watched last night but commenting now. Great video, nice and relaxed. Watching paint dry has never been so pleasant. Paragon paints are good, I can get a decent finish with them and I'm the worlds worst painter. They came through for you too which is brilliant. The surface grinder looks the business now.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Carl, sometimes more it less when it come to chat 😁 I did wonder how people would react to chat and little action. Cheers

  • @RB-yq7qv
    @RB-yq7qv 7 месяцев назад +2

    I must agree the colour is great. paragon should be supported for their great effect.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Paragon were certainly generous to me so I hope it pays back for them. Cheers

  • @TheRecreationalMachinist
    @TheRecreationalMachinist 7 месяцев назад

    Great stuff Paul. I prefer the new colour, and a few extra coats on there won't do any harm. Credit to Paragon, great service 👍 🇬🇧

  • @motjuste8549
    @motjuste8549 7 месяцев назад +2

    That is definitely the correct color for that machine. Good on all of you (Paragon and yourself) for going the extra effort.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you. 👍

  • @tsheritageengineering
    @tsheritageengineering 7 месяцев назад +2

    Paragon paint is good, painted my Tom Senior with it 8 years ago and despite a lot of use it still shines. I purchased a load of Meccano and it never arrived, DPD were the couriers, they sent it back to the sender as it rattled and they thought they had broken whatever was in the package. Didn't tell anyone until the original sender managed to track it down to a depot where the collect broken parcels, anyway I eventually got it and written in big letters was: :its supposed to rattle!"

    • @TheAyrCaveShop
      @TheAyrCaveShop 7 месяцев назад +2

      Great story 👍

    • @carlwilson1772
      @carlwilson1772 7 месяцев назад

      I also bought Meccano (like I need any more of it...) and the driver told me whatever was inside the parcel had shattered!

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Aren't you too old to be playing with Meccano Tony?

    • @tsheritageengineering
      @tsheritageengineering 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@HaxbyShed never too old. do displays at various places.

  • @TheAyrCaveShop
    @TheAyrCaveShop 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Paul, That color match looks incredible.. And what a pleasure and I'm sure you feel the same way, to come across a local company such as Paragon that values customer service. 👍👍
    Cheers....

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Dean, here is it almost impossible to find a Brit company making stuff at hobbyist prices. Cheers Paul

  • @chrisstephens6673
    @chrisstephens6673 7 месяцев назад +2

    Sounds like they are an honorable company to deal with and you cant give greater praise,👍

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Yes Chris, decent people. Reassuring. Cheers

  • @paulhammond7489
    @paulhammond7489 7 месяцев назад +2

    I concur about the colour from Paragon, the grinder looks miles better in its new livery than the one you used previously. Back in the day I used to inspect industrial electrical equipment at different manufacturing facilities. I had 3 light-tight boxes of postcard sized paint samples (BS & RAL) that would travel with me. I rarely had issues, but on occasion there were disasters where lots of kit had been painted the wrong colour and assembled...

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Paul, to follow up on the Boxford paint colour story, apparently they took more care with the colour match if it was a contract for the Department of Education (i.e. machines for schools). Cheers

    • @paulhammond7489
      @paulhammond7489 7 месяцев назад

      @@HaxbyShed Good to hear they are still supplying machine tools to schools. I got my first taste of machine tools in my metalwork class in secondary school back in early 60's

  • @hilltopmachineworks2131
    @hilltopmachineworks2131 7 месяцев назад +2

    Very nice of Paragon to go out of their way to get you the proper color. I feel your pain. I hate painting machines also.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Tom, besides anything else talking to Steve at Paragon has broadened my personal network quite a bit. He knows a lot of people. Cheers

  • @philhermetic
    @philhermetic 7 месяцев назад +1

    Must admit i do like Paragon paints! I used it on the Colchester, use their thinners too, it is better than white spirit and produces a higher gloss and better oil resistance. I sprayed the Colchester, but i have found that using a small gloss roller gives a finish very close to spray work-light looks excellent! The machines we have are certainly from the heyday of British machine tools, and a surface grinder is something i want rather than “need” but that never stopped me!
    Another cracking video Paul!
    Phil

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you Phil. How does Paragon stand up to (semi)synthetic coolant?

  • @stuartmcintosh8275
    @stuartmcintosh8275 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for setting off my Alexa last night. It was someone on the TV that set it off

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      He he lol, I can just picture it. My Alexa is useful when I need to voice-mute music for a video 'take' but it can be a pain when it chirps up unexpectedly. Cheers

  • @Rustinox
    @Rustinox 7 месяцев назад +1

    At work, every year we repaint the whole barge. And doing that takes about... one year. So, I know painting takes a lot of time.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Got to have some thing for the crew to do when underway - painting, mopping decks, checking cables/ropes, greasing things - must be a nice rhythm to life.

  • @ThePottingShedWorkshop
    @ThePottingShedWorkshop 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thats really good of Paragon! I've used their paints on almost all my machines and its been very good. I brush it on, like you were doing, as I dont have spraying capability.
    Their brush cleaner is good as well, less smelly than white spirit.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Oh hello, the man with the very cleaver shaper gear cutter rig .... 😁

    • @ThePottingShedWorkshop
      @ThePottingShedWorkshop 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@HaxbyShed That's me!

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Welcome Sir 👍

  • @StuartsShed
    @StuartsShed 7 месяцев назад +3

    That grinder is a lovely machine, and Paragon did a top job setting you up with paint. Very excellent. Side note - I have no problem with any channel doing honest reviews of products, no matter where they are from. It helps the community. If a major importer of a variety of equipment were to send me a Davit crane, for example, I’d review it honestly. 😂

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Right then Stuart, davit crane, davit crane, davit crane ...... maybe somebody will notice 😁

  • @quinntalley1681
    @quinntalley1681 7 месяцев назад +1

    I always enjoy your videos. Sorry to hear you very nice and expensive camera is not working well. Great job on the surface grinder. The new colour looks very nice.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Pleased to report that I've fixed the cam Quinn. Cheers.

  • @romanvarcolac2238
    @romanvarcolac2238 7 месяцев назад +2

    An original color of paint is always very nice. Good job! Are the ways in good condition?
    Also, as others have said, great for you to support a British company! I hope Paragon stays successful!

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Roman, the ways on the grinder look ok. I have not tried a clock on them, as yet. Cheers

  • @machineshopatthebottomofth3213
    @machineshopatthebottomofth3213 7 месяцев назад +1

    I used paragon when repainting the Harrison lathe. It’s a joy to use compared to hammertoe smooth etc

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hiya, I used oil resistant grey floor paint on my Harrison and it's done ok. With hindsight Paragon would have been better. Cheers

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 7 месяцев назад +1

    Paragon by me made a colour specially for the company, though it did not actually have a name, just a colour code. Was stored under their special colour code, so you can go anywhere and order it, and it would be mixed to the right match. Also a good paint, it covers well, and is very hard wearing.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Sean. It seems machine paint is a truly international topic since we all have the same issue. 😁 Cheers

  • @jaybailey3518
    @jaybailey3518 7 месяцев назад

    How delightful... It's not often that things go this way !!!

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Jay, I think 'givers get'. I'm sure Paragon's generosity will be repaid by the community in time. Cheers

  • @grantlindley2145
    @grantlindley2145 6 месяцев назад

    I’ve used there paint before on a myford ML7 and it was a lovely paint to use, covered very well and left a lovely finish. Plus I also do like to use British products where possible. Loving the whole series

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you Grant, It's taking a while but I'm loving it too. Cheers.

  • @paulrayner4514
    @paulrayner4514 7 месяцев назад

    good on you for helping to support british manufacturing (i've no affiliation) great colour👍

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Paul.

  • @dutchgray86
    @dutchgray86 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just bought a litre of Paragon paint for some parts of my Dean Smith and Grace lathe, it might be tomorrow's job to do.
    Expensive paint but its a good machine paint and I don't want to have to re do it.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Oh a DSG, you lucky guy. I hope is a big one. If I were the Jay Leno of machines I'd have one just to look at. Cheers

  • @davidberlanny3308
    @davidberlanny3308 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Paul, What a great offer from Paragon it looks just the job, mind you I liked it how it was too. I think you were lucky with the cover that could have easily gone missing in the accident.
    Not sure how customs works in the UK (having just read Kimber's comment) here, despite the customs label indicating its a gift with next to no value the post office insist on charging the minimum customs duty about 5 pounds. No way around it I'm afraid.
    Have a great weekend!!

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi David, the duty free allowance for a gift from anywhere outside UK is £39 (currently about 49USD / Eur45). After that it gets 20% VAT slapped on and the handling charge. Then over about £135 it also attracts import duty but that's not high - maybe 5%. For Europe there is no import duty provided it meets the country of origin requirements. In some cases the country of origin can be redefined if the part is incorporated into something else - or otherwise transformed. I think in practice it depends very much on what the sender puts on the customs label. But don't take my word for any of this ..... it's just my diy understanding. Cheers

    • @davidberlanny3308
      @davidberlanny3308 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@HaxbyShed Hi Paul, Thanks for that.
      In theory it's broadly similar here but Spain being Spain the application is not as it should be. The postie insists on applying the charges against gifts, no argument, you either pay the duty or they send it back. I have paid it on a few occasions for Christmas gifts from family but I've told them not to send anything it's not worth it. Better to give it in person next time we meet.
      I have brought books and paid the duty. In all honesty I don't follow the logic I can't buy similar books on engineering etc here so it's not like local products are at a disadvantage. That said I don't think Amazon products get treated like that.
      Anyway rant over!! Have a great Easter!!

  • @Griffon37
    @Griffon37 7 месяцев назад

    Nice job, great paint

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Yep, I'm very pleased with it. 👍

  • @mikegray9181
    @mikegray9181 7 месяцев назад

    The work light is a classy touch. Great job painting.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Mike, it does look smart but honestly it was the cheapest flimsiest thing ever until I welded the seams up on the arms to stop them flexing. Cheers

  • @MyLilMule
    @MyLilMule 7 месяцев назад +1

    I like the new color so much better. I'm getting bored with grey machines. :) And I think you need to paint the front of the letters black.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Oh black Greg, that's radical. Most people would say white 😁

  • @dcraft1234
    @dcraft1234 7 месяцев назад +1

    Would be a good color for other machines and tools.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Indeed it would. The grinder looks really classy in its new coat. Cheers

  • @julias-shed
    @julias-shed 6 месяцев назад

    Blue grey looks so much better 😀

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it really does. Looks so superior compared with the basic grey on the other machines.

    • @julias-shed
      @julias-shed 6 месяцев назад

      @@HaxbyShed your search reminded me of looking for Admiralty Grey for 16mm scale WW1 trench railway rolling stock. I ended up with an Artists Acrylic called Paynes Grey which is really popular to darken colours rather than black.

  • @ramnereds
    @ramnereds 7 месяцев назад

    What a fine company! I wish I could order the paint for my Fordson Dexta from Paragon but they don’t ship to Sweden. Well at least my Dexta made it here. 😊

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi you are not the first to say that but most curriers will not ship paint overseas (I did a bit of research myself). Cheers

  • @graedonmunro1793
    @graedonmunro1793 7 месяцев назад

    nice colour!!

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      👍 Cheers Graedon.

  • @TrPrecisionMachining
    @TrPrecisionMachining 7 месяцев назад

    good video paul

  • @TroubledTimes2024
    @TroubledTimes2024 7 месяцев назад

    Wow, I thought it looked great before but the original paint color Paragon sent you tops that substantially.Tells us more about the paint, oil based, enamel, epoxy type?

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Ken, I hope you will find that detail somewhere on their website www.paragonpaints.co.uk/ Cheers

  • @billdoodson4232
    @billdoodson4232 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well Paragon really came through for you Paul, does the paint go on OK? It looks as if it is covers alright. Must admit I have been looking at their products to paint my machines when I get to them, although they will all be the same light cream or light grey. I have no natural light in the workshop, I want to keep the shop as light as possible.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Bill, the paint goes on very smoothly and covers well. I do not know if it resists synthetic coolant, I've not tested that. I painted the Harrison with industrial floor paint and that will sit in mineral oil all day and not lift but synthetic coolant will bubble it if I leave it standing. Perhaps I'll paint a bit of the lathe tray with the Paragon grey and see how it does. Cheers

  • @Warped65er
    @Warped65er 7 месяцев назад

    Thx for the vid.

  • @adamdiaz8442
    @adamdiaz8442 7 месяцев назад +1

    More waffle than a cows got udder 😂as my late mother would say,And rock o paragon top company

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      I agree Adam, I was watching this morning thinking "this guy is talking a lot!". 😁 Cheers.

  • @tinkeringtim7999
    @tinkeringtim7999 7 месяцев назад

    If the touch screen has gone, it's quite likely the pressure caused delamination of the screen. This messes up the capacitance detection giving symptoms like you're seeing. It likely needs a new screen.
    However, you'd have to trace the path of mechanical stresses to see if its more likely the screen or the circuit board.
    Also, don't discount it being after warranty day which let's the gremlins out! By that I mean it's quite possible the mount is a red herring, and moisture or temperature related damage actually caused the problem (or it's a defect/bug - see if you can flash the firmware).

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Tim, you may have seen my later video fixing the cam. It was the printed flexible ribbon cable between the display and the main board. A tricky job. Cheers Paul

    • @tinkeringtim7999
      @tinkeringtim7999 7 месяцев назад

      @HaxbyShed oh, I thought you had already ruled that out with a replacement that didn't work?
      Yep, ribbon cables are always suspect, especially if they go over something like a laptop hinge. Well done.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@tinkeringtim7999 Hiya. I changed the ribbon cable the first time and had just the same fault. But then I changed it again (2nd time) but avoiding any sharp creases in the folds and then it worked. Cheers

  • @christophercullen1236
    @christophercullen1236 7 месяцев назад

    I have been listening to Pom moan for 76 years the day they stepped off the boat nothing new .
    Kit from down under

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Kit that made me chuckle ... I'm with my granddaughter at the coffee shop just now and she says "what's so funny grandad??". If not the shop vac or the cam it would have been a moan about the weather I suppose. Got to say something whilst the paint dries ..... Cheers

    • @christophercullen1236
      @christophercullen1236 7 месяцев назад +1

      @HaxbyShed glad you enjoyed the banner from behind the stumps ( Rod Marsh was my mentor )

    • @bostedtap8399
      @bostedtap8399 7 месяцев назад

      Fairly sure your ancestors moaned far more. 😅

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      @@christophercullen1236 Ah I just looked that up "Rodney William Marsh MBE (4 November 1947 - 4 March 2022) was an Australian professional cricketer wicketkeeper for the Australian National team". You educated me.

  • @alanremington8500
    @alanremington8500 7 месяцев назад

    Nice !!

  • @melgross
    @melgross 29 дней назад

    Paragon Paint js here in the USA as well. The Paragon name is written in the same font. I wonder if it’s a British company or an American one.

  • @jasonhull5712
    @jasonhull5712 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love the fact you support your local companies. They usually cost a little more. But the benefits stay in your own communities/country. You don’t have many options left. We don’t either here in the US. Everything is made in china now. Makes me so frustrated. I’ve got nothing against china, it’s just dependent on others kinda leaves us in a vulnerable position. At least with the US we have politicians that sold us out to the highest bidders. Not sure if it’s the same for you.
    Anyways, that’s my “moan”
    Surface grinder looks amazing! Hopefully it will work as good as it looks right !

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Jason, my next vid will be a China product review (I hope that's not a spoiler) but I'm on the lookout for other British companies to support. Cheers Paul

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 7 месяцев назад +1

    What is the best value to put on an item being sent to you from the US. Should it be considered a gift with the value of $25 US? I know there’s some tax consequences for you. I just want to make it as smooth as transaction as possible.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      Hi Kimber the tax free limit for gifts sent from USA to UK is £39 which is currently $49. Anything over that gets stuffed with 20% purchase tax and perhaps 5% import duty and then maybe a handling charge by the UK postal service. A gift valued at $25 on the customs label should not get any tax at this end. Who might be the lucky recipient ? 😁🤣🤣 Cheers my friend.

  • @eduardogarcia3049
    @eduardogarcia3049 7 месяцев назад

    Send the camera to stezstix fix. He’s in the uk and he makes videos on fixing electronics. Maybe he can figure it out.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Eduardo, I managed to fix the cam after a lot of tricky work. I made a video about it which got me 3% dislikes and dropped one subscriber. Oh well, got to take the long term view it might prove popular with the broader RUclips community in time. Some topics are like that. I know it would have helped me. Cheers

  • @somebodyelse6673
    @somebodyelse6673 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nope. Nobody gets it next. It's been decided you're indispensible, and not allowed to pass on. So, take care of yourself because you're going to be around for a loooong while.

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi somebodyelse, when I was 60 my instructor put me in for my Karate black belt. He said "we'd better put you in now because you have a lot of miles on the clock and you never know ....". Sure enough last year my sore hips made me quit. They are fine day to day but can't take the 'out of normal range' movements now. But notwithstanding I hope I'm still some ways off my expiry date, and a new home for the surface grinder. Cheers Paul

  • @kenjohnson6338
    @kenjohnson6338 7 месяцев назад +1

    Moan away.. get it off your chest dude...

    • @HaxbyShed
      @HaxbyShed  7 месяцев назад

      My wife sometimes says, "is there any new information in this or are you just repeating the same thing a different way to carry on the moan .....??" 😁