Best thing about this channel: Sometimes he show or tell us something what it’s called and how it work. He also made his videos realistic, dramatic, and detailed. He also explained a lot in his videos. He used the flight simulator with good graphics. TheFlightChannel, if you read this comment, I want to tell you that I love your channel and videos and I subscribed you. You’re one of my entertainers. Thanks for your hard works! ❤️🇲🇾
The only problem is MFS has problems with realism. For bigger planes, I'm going to assume he'd have to use XPlane. I understand the graphics match it, so it would be a better experience for us viewers, but in terms of making the video, he'd struggle with the handling. Also, the fact that you can't replay with different angles might affect the time. Plus, MFS has lots of buttons inside bigger planes without functional properties. Not good for the first-person reconstruction like IFR details that he added in XPlane vids. So, there are pros and cons, but depending on how you look at it MFS doesn't exactly match TFC's video style (which I'm sure we all love).
So realistic, even birds chirping in the background. Great job. Can you imagine, it's a beautiful day, let's take a little flight and see the sights, then bam. Life is so precious and short. One never knows.
First off, I love the animation. It is sooooo easy to see how anyone could get complacent in this situation. Let me make some observations. 1) complacency is a big problem for people with lots of experience 2) this was obviously meant to be a joy ride, going low and slow to see the sights. Another addition to the complacency factor. 3) thousands of hours of flight time doesn't mean you are not going to encounter something new. Much flight time is at altitude in a straight line, not buzzing trees in a water filled canyon. 4) if you ever get a chance to do this, look the pilot in the eye before you take off and tell him/her that you want to stay in a highly safe flight envelope, not go down and buzz the trees. I was in the USAF for 6 years and had a chance to fly the gun door on a Blackhawk chopper twice. They strapped me into the harness. Since I was not normally on flight duty they decided to try to make me puke. They left the side door open and the gun was not in place. So it was just me and the harness. And so they begin jerking the collective up and down trying to get me to yak. I was completely unafraid of the machine breaking down but I was worried that the pilots would go too far trying to get me to barf because I don't barf. It all turned out fine on both rides but it did teach me that my simple presence had changed the safety equation for that aircraft.
@@haranglouis5252 Mission failed. You cannot make me yak. I am an offshore fisherman. I'm the guy who lights up the stogie when everyone else is turning green.
The silly thing being that he could have put it down on the water, then flown it back out the way that he came in. What a tragedy. RIP to both men and condolences to their family, friends and colleagues.
The pilot didn’t need to turn in that blind canyon. He could have simply landed on water, turned his craft around, and took off in the opposite direction. It’s especially sad to the passenger who trusted the pilot.
@veryslyfox His ‘experience’ killed him. I know the dangers of flying into a blind canyon. That pilot was clueless. Apparently so are you. If I was flying I would have lived. If you followed in that inept pilot’s footsteps you would have crashed. I wonder why you are defending a pilot that made a massive blunder.
@veryslyfox He likely turned up this canyon by mistake. And he most certainly could and should have landed straight ahead on the water. It just goes to show that even experienced pilots are human and can make mistakes.
I know this lake well. From the entrance to Portuguese canyon, a left turn takes you through a narrow passage into the main body of the lake. That is where they were planning to go. That narrow passage to the lake body looks very similar to where Portuguese canyon narrows then dead ends at the north. The pilot likely didn't know he was flying into the canyon until he saw the end of the water and the steep hills at which point it would have been too late to land, with the only option being to attempt a U-turn. Also, that left turn is easy to miss. It looks a lot like one of the many dead end canyons.
I really appreciate you recreating that accident. I can really understand the nature of the steep hills, the planes inability to climb, and it asks the question so well: “why did he fly up those canyons?”
The quality is simply outstanding with the new flight simulator. Soon you're going to have to upgrade your PC a bit, lol! Thanks for the amazing video as always
Again I'm seeing this in the comments a lot... I'm not sure most of you are familiar with flight sims but IFR antics are going to have to require XPlane. So I don't know if he will be using MFS for bigger planes or not.
The new graphics just add another fantastic dimension to these videos. As usual, so very well done and informative. I'm looking forward to seeing this new flight simulator take on even more complex and detailed recreations!
Wouldn't buy it though. If the performance was so bad it couldn't even fly out of that canyon I wouldn't buy a flying car. It's awesome don't get me wrong, but I want an airplane, not a car.
@@nokilhot3550 Yup. I wouldn't go anywhere near those mountains at that altitude in that airplane. Even if nothing went wrong, the pilot was teaching the passenger horrible decision making.
TheFlightChannel, I may not know your name but the videos you make are incredible and how you explain about the crash and what the pilots did and all. All in all, the videos you do are perfectly made, I mistakes them for real ones! Thank you for an amazing video!!
@@jamescaley9942 Fun is good! :) Adventure and being able to get close to beautiful places are wonderful, and I bet this plane is a great machine for that, as long as the person who flies it remembers that it's neither a snowmobile nor the high-performance aircraft they've flown before. RIP...
That was the pilot's mistake, attempting to stay over the lake when the aircraft could have easily climbed to safety flying out the back of the canyon. As best I can tell from my Northern California DeLorme Atlas, although the _walls_ of the canyon are steep, the gradient of the creek only rises another 100 meters in the next 1.2 miles, well within the A5's published climb rate: doc8643.com/aircraft/A5
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 released, Other gamers: Flying planes peacefully, finding their houses in the game, admiring graphics etc Theflightchannel : Lets make a cinematic crash in the game
Here's what we learned from this plane crash so far: "When we carry out flight plans for a small plane before take off, we must not forget to insert a flight path into the aircraft's computer because it's the most important thing that every pilot must do if they want to fly over mountainous terrains. You see, before the Icon A5 took off to fly over Lake Berryessa, no flight path was carried out which resulted in the pilot who is flying not even knowing if he is flying over the canyon he expected to fly over, he then realized that he was in the wrong canyon so attempted to escape the canyon but they crashed! The lesson of this accident is when we prepare a small plane for take off, we must carry out a flight path as it's the rules for every single aviation pilot!" By the way, love your content ❤
Sorry but you are incorrect here. There is no need to file a flight plan if you are on a local flight in VFR conditions. The mistake here was the low altitude. He could have flown the same route at a safe altitude and everything would have been fine.
This is the second Icon crash I’ve seen. It’s being marketed as a sports vehicle, rather than a plane, so I think there’s a false sense of reality going on there..that somehow the basic rules of aviation don’t apply.
@@virginiaviola5097 I heard from a case study by the youtube channel : AVweb (really great youtube channel) that he mentioned that the Icon A5 provided a false sense of security and "invincibility" due to the AOA indicator being expressed as a revolutionary indicator and that their commecials and videos even suggested you could fly off it alone. BIG mistake imo, As a pilot of even a smaller aircraft, PPL training should be a must since it shows people who dont respect/know the laws and physics of aviation how to understand why these accidents happen and how to avoid them. *edited for grammar lol
This was great! You should do more General Aviation accidents in the future! Tons of them out there, and lots of good lessons to be learned by people who are in training.
judging by his experience, flight hours, and certification, it sounds like he maybe was trying to show off a bit to the new employee and wasn't paying attention to his map or GPS
@@jamescaley9942 As a pilot, there are certain types of mistakes that I will NEVER make. Because those things are always at the front if my mind, a permanent part of my psyche. Because I make myself stay afraid of the fatal consequences. There are no excuses in aviation, just incident reports.
Timothy Campbell And yet- you can still make a mistake. MOST accidents in General Aviation are caused by pilot error. Even the most experience professional pilots sometimes make simple mistakes. The attitude that it ‘won’t happen to me’ because I am more careful is a primary attribution error, and is the very mentality that causes pilot error mishaps. This aircraft was flying the same route the company took nearly all customers on. Flying low to the water the way a hundred kit Fox and carbon cub pilots do every day. This day, the pilot took what he thought was the canyon that lead to the larger area of the lake where he was planning to land the aircraft on the water... instead he turned one canyon too soon and ended up in Portuguese cove- by the time he saw he was in the wrong cove, he did not have enough water in front of him to land so he tried to climb. Realizing he couldn’t clear the surrounding hills he tried a 180, but had to cut back on power to make the bank sharper and so lost altitude as he turned. Coming out of the turn he was descending and tried to gain enough airspeed to climb out of the descent... but ran out of altitude. Sadly, had his first instinct not been to climb, he might have been able to set it down hard on the water and run her aground before running out of wet... certainly destroying the aircraft and likely being serious injured, but at least perhaps surviving. Much faster and easier to DROP 50 feet when you only have 56kts - than to climb 700 feet... But then, MOSt pilots who get themselves killed were killed by their first instinct.
During my 59 years of flying, this was one of my rules: Before you get 1500 hours, don't ever buzz; after you get 1500 hours, don't ever buzz. (One other thing for pilots: the sky is really a very safe place, but the edge of the sky can be very dangerous.)
When the manufacturer itself wants to position the aircraft with a recreational focus as if airplanes were too complex or complicated, that's what you get. Flying is not a joke, or a game. In the end, the pilot did exactly what the CEO wanted: he got out there and interacted with his world.
Well, that's a deceiving marketing slogan (and a fatal too); for private leisure non-pro or commercial flight I get it they would simplify things but at least build the plane with enough power to climb a f'n canyon UNDER ALMOST PERFECT WEATHER; the pilot could have attempted a water landing giving the fact they advertise the plane as aquatic too
That reminds me of the plane that John Denver crashed in. That would make a great crash analysis video, hint, hint. Keep up the great work , I enjoy, greatly, all you do. Thanks so much.
It was a long easy it had been built with the throttle directly behind him, so he couldn't get to it fast enough and he ran out of fuel. Before he left the airport maintenance tried to get him to refill his tanks, but he refused. That seems so ridiculous that he would do that, but that's the main reason many pilots die, they don't ever think it can happen to me
Thanks for the help with the aircraft, my uncle, who is a flight instructor and also trained me, said that they are some of the most dangerous aircraft to fly. This is due to cramped cockpit, and its not faa certified.
Great vid, love the new MS sim program! Always thought about this accident...how do you crash an amphib instead of simply land on the lake, turn around & take off?
World be great if that thing had some 10000ft/min climb performance... well, maybe not that much, but it seems to me that this a/c has inadequate climb performance for its designed to be used for.
Idk why when using msfs2020 flying smaller planes like they are so easy to maneuver and thats not realistic i mean yeah small planes can maneuver better than big planes but they are so fragile
Flying into unfamiliar and familiar box canyons with low powered planes at low altitudes have killed many pilots, and actually quite a few in the CA mountains. Bruce Gellar ( Mission Impossible creator in a C337) , Frank Tallman(famous stuntman in an Piper Apache) to name a couple. Their were complicated with low ceilings and fog, but these familiar stories , the almost always fatal 180 turn or just flying into the side of mountains are hard lessons never learned. Always sad. Awesome vid.
The standard training routine for this plane certification teaches doing a higher altitude overflight of your proposed landing site; if he followed their own training he would have seen that this was the wrong canyon and flew on to the correct longer one.
Oh, man, I'm sorry to learn that Jon Karkow was in this crash. I only met Jon once or twice in my decades in Mojave, but he also owned a set of four tiny houses on K st that were known as the "Karkowminiums" locally. I was so wrapped up in XCOR's final days that a lot of other news at the time didn't register with me.
I live in this area and the graphics are stunningly accurate both with the airport and the terrain surrounding the airport and Lake Berryessa. Fabulous re-creation
4:23 "At the intersection of aviation and artistry, the Icon A5 is an elegant two seat amphibious light-sport aircraft specifically designed to embrace the adventure of flying." Lofty drivel characteristic of today, but, getting back to reality, the pilot still has to fly the aircraft.
I know nothing about flying other than what I've seen on this awesome channel. But - this is an amphibious plane. When the pilot appeared to realize he was in trouble, I wonder why he didn't attempt to land on that lake?
Please recreate the miracle on the Hudson in mfs2020, yes I know that the aircraft is not the A320 neo.... but the graphics! Gesus . Keep up your work, Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Not sure why, but I really am fascinated by these videos, particularly how they are made. It would be great if you would produce a "making of...." video where you show the process that you go through to put one of these videos together.
Flight simulator programmes are freely available to buy... all you have to is get good at using it them simulate the characteristics of the various crashes using all available details.. Lol sounds easy but I'm guessing it's not.
I can never get tired of your work. Dunno if you remember me, but this is dedication to be producing work at this quality and efficiency. Truly a pleasure to be able to watch this content for free. Keep it up.
An experienced pilot showing off, is the impression I'm left with. He over-estimated his own abilities and left investigators, and undoubtedly the loved one's of both pilot and passenger, as to WTF went wrong.
X X nonsense. Experience is merely a measure of the amount of flying a person has undergone coupled with the number of different situations and planes he’s been in. An experienced pilot could become reckless OR he could learn to be methodical, detail oriented and prone to planning his flights. Merging experience and danger is just stupid.
@@breeknow AOPA has a writer that made the very same point... the ICON A5 has a problem with killing experienced pilots, because the aircraft handles so well that they forget that it's bleeding close to it's limits while handling *that well*. Airspeed low, need just a little more power... whoops, you were already getting 95% and now you're f*cked because you boxed yourself in a corner with no exit. Long story short, pilots used to trusting other airplanes in ways that you can't trust this one, finding themselves caught in their own trap.
I go to Lake Berryessa all the time and when I saw this I was shocked. I never knew there was a plane crash here. It's a weird feeling seeing a video made on my local area
A sad experience that must be learned from. To me the Icon A5 is a true sea plan and also more of a flat flyer and is not a plane for fast maneuvers so plan ahead and know your terrain and your planes limitations. RIP.
I have always been recommended your channel to others because of your content. And I hope you keep using Microsoft Flight simulator 2020 Hoping for the best videos
was a weird story. those things cant fly at at that altitude nor at 300 mph. the only thing that can do that is the Dubai rocket man, and I doubt it was him.
@@khoado2060 from the story ""Person in a jetpack reported 300 yards south of the LA final at about 3,000 feet, 10-mile final," the controller said." the worlds only jetpack can fly half that height for 8 mins most
Pretty scary when their own chief pilot can’t fly the airplane. I have a seaplane rating and one of the first rules they teach you don’t go where you can’t get out.
You are right! My brother in law has flown as a bush pilot in Alaska and all over the western U.S. Years ago I started lessons with him but quit. I still remember him saying, know where you are going and if you're not sure you can get out, don't go in. Flying is for knowing, not guessing !
I don't know who you are, but I can confidently say this pilot was more experienced than you, period. Sometimes highly experienced pilots make mistakes. Do you really think this pilot didn't know to avoid flying into canyons you can't fly out of? The mistake wasn't knowing that, it was making a wrong turn. Show some respect.
@@TheBeefBaron being more experienced in that airplane isn’t saying much and I maybe mistaken, but isn’t that lake where they do all their flight testing etc? Pilot should know that place pretty well. That thing is basically a jet ski with wings. BTW you come across sounding like you work for them
Just what I want to fly in: An airplane that wants to be an ATV. “It’s not about speed or altitude or flight instruments, because they’re boring. If we could have taken the seats out and just built a super high-powered hang glider, we’d have done that. It’s about getting you out there so you can, you know, make a real impact on the world.”
Nokil Hotrun Well to be fair, that was my joke-the company founder didn’t actually say anything about having an “impact”. That was one of the parts I made up as a way to (darkly) parody what he said. But the fact my joke/parody version seems like something the company really might have said is mildly terrifying, in terms of how seriously they take aviation safety in creating their aircraft, marketing it, training people to fly it, etc.
Shannon McCrary I’m not saying it does; at least not directly. I just thought that the founder’s quote (which he said when the aircraft was introduced) suggested a bit of apathy toward safe aviation. If you release an airplane to compete in the same market as ATVs and motorcycle, rather than with other airplanes, it shouldn’t come as a shock when people fly it like an ATV. (I believe the late Hall-of-Fame MLB pitcher Roy Halladay was also flying an Icon pretty recklessly in his fatal crash, although he was also under the influence of drugs at the time.)
He couldn't determine the direction of the area he spotted to land. The co-pilot should have assisted as a spotter . Overall the issue was pilot error. He just didn't have enough altitude to correct his heading due to distance. ..
Feel for the passenger, he would have realised they were in trouble some time before the crash. Relying on others to do their job can be a bitch sometimes. Oh and that aircraft needs more power.
First thing came to mind as an aviation engineer .... This type of A/C needs more then 150 hp at least in order to get out of troubles at lower altitudes.....
Yeah ..could use a bit more power but that had zero to do with these deaths .. purposely flying into a box canyon at low level that the plane can't climb out of is always avoidable ... also the rocket propelled chute can make a save at incredibly low altitude .. Numerous decisions not to die were not made
@@Fadil1954 yes, but the former CEO had something else in mind ... cutting down costs, in order to make it more affordable for the public ... that's why you need engineers who have the guts to say : NO BOSS ! THIS AIN'T GONNA WORK ! But nobody does that, especially when your job is at stake ... I see it everyday happen !
Basically it looks as though inexperience and loss of situational awareness FLEW IT INTO THE GROUND. Fantastic, well-produced video reproduction. Excellent video. Condolences...
Okay, this video shouldn't be making you scared of flying. I see you don't understand flying a lot. *facepalm* .Listen, this is literally a one in a million crash.Being scared of airplanes can get you killed, because it's one of the safest things you can do. More people die from taking a run than flying sport aircraft. These videos are supposed to be educational to teach pilots what not to do and a tribute for the people who suffered from the crashes. The main reason people don't do recreational flying is because of cost. Saying you don't want to do sports flying because of this is like saying you'd rather be a taxi driver than a pilot. By not flying, you're killing yourself. I know it sounds stupid and they don't sound like facts, after all, how can walking be more dangerous than flying, but these are hard facts. Look at the stats.
Off topic here but I will always remember the Nut Tree airport. 9/29/1979, the Nut Tree was the first stop of my and my late wifes honeymoon. We flew there in a Piper Comanche, stayed at the Brigadoon Inn (I think that's the name.....), rode the train a few times, really enjoyed ourselves. One of the most pleasant memories I have!
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Best thing about this channel:
Sometimes he show or tell us something what it’s called and how it work. He also made his videos realistic, dramatic, and detailed. He also explained a lot in his videos. He used the flight simulator with good graphics.
TheFlightChannel, if you read this comment, I want to tell you that I love your channel and videos and I subscribed you. You’re one of my entertainers. Thanks for your hard works! ❤️🇲🇾
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Bad things about the channel: There are none
@Odyssey 80 what do you mean?
@@sunnyfon9065 there isn't anything bad about the channel
Don't know why this channel really touches my heart. I feel bad for the people and the aircraft. You are amazing sir, really it feels .
Finally! A flight simulator that at least somewhat matches the pure quality of TheFlightChannel's video-making skills. Another great one
The only problem is MFS has problems with realism. For bigger planes, I'm going to assume he'd have to use XPlane. I understand the graphics match it, so it would be a better experience for us viewers, but in terms of making the video, he'd struggle with the handling. Also, the fact that you can't replay with different angles might affect the time. Plus, MFS has lots of buttons inside bigger planes without functional properties. Not good for the first-person reconstruction like IFR details that he added in XPlane vids. So, there are pros and cons, but depending on how you look at it MFS doesn't exactly match TFC's video style (which I'm sure we all love).
Sadly, he used FSX and P3D with shaders
True.
@@nokilhot3550 the game just came out it's improving the reason x plane's planes are so good it's been out for years
@@Atmostyx I guess we could wait...
So realistic, even birds chirping in the background. Great job. Can you imagine, it's a beautiful day, let's take a little flight and see the sights, then bam. Life is so precious and short. One never knows.
First off, I love the animation. It is sooooo easy to see how anyone could get complacent in this situation. Let me make some observations.
1) complacency is a big problem for people with lots of experience
2) this was obviously meant to be a joy ride, going low and slow to see the sights. Another addition to the complacency factor.
3) thousands of hours of flight time doesn't mean you are not going to encounter something new. Much flight time is at altitude in a straight line, not buzzing trees in a water filled canyon.
4) if you ever get a chance to do this, look the pilot in the eye before you take off and tell him/her that you want to stay in a highly safe flight envelope, not go down and buzz the trees.
I was in the USAF for 6 years and had a chance to fly the gun door on a Blackhawk chopper twice. They strapped me into the harness. Since I was not normally on flight duty they decided to try to make me puke. They left the side door open and the gun was not in place. So it was just me and the harness. And so they begin jerking the collective up and down trying to get me to yak. I was completely unafraid of the machine breaking down but I was worried that the pilots would go too far trying to get me to barf because I don't barf. It all turned out fine on both rides but it did teach me that my simple presence had changed the safety equation for that aircraft.
So today Jim the mission is to make *the captain* puke. Go and fill the tank of a blackhawk will you.
@@haranglouis5252 Mission failed. You cannot make me yak. I am an offshore fisherman. I'm the guy who lights up the stogie when everyone else is turning green.
The silly thing being that he could have put it down on the water, then flown it back out the way that he came in. What a tragedy. RIP to both men and condolences to their family, friends and colleagues.
yeah was thinking the same thing, although maybe it's just the animation and in real life the water wasn't there or landable.
Whats bad is the mark left on this aircraft. Even though it turned out to be pilot error.
Another Incident Perfectly Recreated by TheFlightChannel!
nice
Wtf is vansh
@@6o.p6 Vansh is my NAME
V4N5H oh sorry I didn’t know
I’m sorry, did all onboard lose their lives? It is too fast to read & after all. that is more important than the aircraft performance in the end.
The pilot didn’t need to turn in that blind canyon. He could have simply landed on water, turned his craft around, and took off in the opposite direction. It’s especially sad to the passenger who trusted the pilot.
@veryslyfox His ‘experience’ killed him. I know the dangers of flying into a blind canyon. That pilot was clueless. Apparently so are you. If I was flying I would have lived. If you followed in that inept pilot’s footsteps you would have crashed. I wonder why you are defending a pilot that made a massive blunder.
@veryslyfox He likely turned up this canyon by mistake. And he most certainly could and should have landed straight ahead on the water. It just goes to show that even experienced pilots are human and can make mistakes.
Its the first thing I thought about. Why risk it, land if it was that much of a problem.
I know this lake well. From the entrance to Portuguese canyon, a left turn takes you through a narrow passage into the main body of the lake. That is where they were planning to go. That narrow passage to the lake body looks very similar to where Portuguese canyon narrows then dead ends at the north. The pilot likely didn't know he was flying into the canyon until he saw the end of the water and the steep hills at which point it would have been too late to land, with the only option being to attempt a U-turn. Also, that left turn is easy to miss. It looks a lot like one of the many dead end canyons.
I love you content man keep it up love the way it is presented in a cinematic form it’s just so good, that’s why I’ve subbed to you ages ago
Me too
I really appreciate you recreating that accident. I can really understand the nature of the steep hills, the planes inability to climb, and it asks the question so well: “why did he fly up those canyons?”
2:13 The guy in the yellow has the easiest job in the world... "Just stand there and then when they turn on their engine, go somewhere else"
Tom Wilson lmfao
Really try standing like that during summer when temperatures is above 50 degree Celsius or in winter when the temperature is -30 degree Celsius.
And he routinely fails doing it. Countless times he has ended up inside my propeller.
mohammad zohorul winter would be way easier
@@britishairways744 depends on where you live.
This channel is the first thing that came into my mind the first time mfs 2020 was announced, keep up the good work dude!
I'm tired of responding to these comments so it's the last time i'll say it; IFR does not like MFS, MFS does not like IFR.
Really glad to see first air disaster in Flight Simulator 2020☺️.
I'm glad you immediately went back to the tried and true formula without narration. You can't fix perfection.
The quality is simply outstanding with the new flight simulator. Soon you're going to have to upgrade your PC a bit, lol! Thanks for the amazing video as always
He's already using a 2080ti..... I don't think it gets better than that
@@zarakdurrani7584 Until next month when the 3000 range come out
@@zarakdurrani7584 If he's using a 2080ti, I feel sorry for him lmao
Mudbill He bought it ages ago at least, but a 3080 would be a lot better for frames
Again I'm seeing this in the comments a lot... I'm not sure most of you are familiar with flight sims but IFR antics are going to have to require XPlane. So I don't know if he will be using MFS for bigger planes or not.
The new graphics just add another fantastic dimension to these videos. As usual, so very well done and informative. I'm looking forward to seeing this new flight simulator take on even more complex and detailed recreations!
This is a frikin car with wings
Look at the dash!
And it can even land on water and snow!
You can see the BMW designers influence. The gauge cluster and touchscreen are very reminiscent of a BMW.
lol yeah it really does.Especially the interior
Wouldn't buy it though. If the performance was so bad it couldn't even fly out of that canyon I wouldn't buy a flying car. It's awesome don't get me wrong, but I want an airplane, not a car.
@@nokilhot3550 Yup. I wouldn't go anywhere near those mountains at that altitude in that airplane. Even if nothing went wrong, the pilot was teaching the passenger horrible decision making.
TheFlightChannel, I may not know your name but the videos you make are incredible and how you explain about the crash and what the pilots did and all. All in all, the videos you do are perfectly made, I mistakes them for real ones! Thank you for an amazing video!!
CEO: "It's not about the usual metrics of speed, range, payload, altitude, and complex cockpits..."
Reality: yeah it is :/
Yep. Didn't have the power.
More 'don't ride your lamb in tiger country' . . .
He took a risk in flying low, doesn't discredit the concept at all. A parachute accident does not discredit the concept of parachuting for recreation.
@@jamescaley9942 It does if it was a crappy parachute.
@@jamescaley9942 Fun is good! :) Adventure and being able to get close to beautiful places are wonderful, and I bet this plane is a great machine for that, as long as the person who flies it remembers that it's neither a snowmobile nor the high-performance aircraft they've flown before. RIP...
Beautifully executed (again). And MSFS2020 is indeed spectacular! thanks a lot!
They could've landed in the water. RIP To pilot and passenger.
Ist das wirklich passiert
@@guilienschulze Ja, wurde doch am Anfang gesagt.
@@guilienschulze ja, ist sogar in Wikipedia: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICON_A5#Zwischenf%C3%A4lle
Wolfgang Mahringer da steht es bei Zwischenfälle aber nicht Direckt nur dieses Unglück und beide Personen an Bord sie gestorben
That was the pilot's mistake, attempting to stay over the lake when the aircraft could have easily climbed to safety flying out the back of the canyon. As best I can tell from my Northern California DeLorme Atlas, although the _walls_ of the canyon are steep, the gradient of the creek only rises another 100 meters in the next 1.2 miles, well within the A5's published climb rate: doc8643.com/aircraft/A5
Darn Dawgs your videos are lit af, great work bruh!
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 released,
Other gamers: Flying planes peacefully, finding their houses in the game, admiring graphics etc
Theflightchannel : Lets make a cinematic crash in the game
Icon addressed this with an addition to their flight checklists. Page 20: Emergency Procedures: Box-canyon Reversal. Hard lesson to learn. RIP guys.
Here's what we learned from this plane crash so far: "When we carry out flight plans for a small plane before take off, we must not forget to insert a flight path into the aircraft's computer because it's the most important thing that every pilot must do if they want to fly over mountainous terrains. You see, before the Icon A5 took off to fly over Lake Berryessa, no flight path was carried out which resulted in the pilot who is flying not even knowing if he is flying over the canyon he expected to fly over, he then realized that he was in the wrong canyon so attempted to escape the canyon but they crashed! The lesson of this accident is when we prepare a small plane for take off, we must carry out a flight path as it's the rules for every single aviation pilot!"
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Sorry but you are incorrect here. There is no need to file a flight plan if you are on a local flight in VFR conditions. The mistake here was the low altitude. He could have flown the same route at a safe altitude and everything would have been fine.
This is the second Icon crash I’ve seen. It’s being marketed as a sports vehicle, rather than a plane, so I think there’s a false sense of reality going on there..that somehow the basic rules of aviation don’t apply.
@@virginiaviola5097 Exactly! It's another case of "just because you can afford it and legally use it doesn't mean you're skillfully qualified to"
@@virginiaviola5097 I heard from a case study by the youtube channel : AVweb (really great youtube channel) that he mentioned that the Icon A5 provided a false sense of security and "invincibility" due to the AOA indicator being expressed as a revolutionary indicator and that their commecials and videos even suggested you could fly off it alone. BIG mistake imo, As a pilot of even a smaller aircraft, PPL training should be a must since it shows people who dont respect/know the laws and physics of aviation how to understand why these accidents happen and how to avoid them.
*edited for grammar lol
@@potatopilot16 true, if you are in the air you are in the air, and physics and the laws of gravity apply, irregardless of what you are flying.
you wont believe your channel has encourged me to become a pilot in future because of your channel I get much information about planes
This was great! You should do more General Aviation accidents in the future! Tons of them out there, and lots of good lessons to be learned by people who are in training.
I dont know anything about airplanes except what this channel shows. These videos are very informative and detailed.
judging by his experience, flight hours, and certification, it sounds like he maybe was trying to show off a bit to the new employee and wasn't paying attention to his map or GPS
Or became disoriented/incapacitated for some reason and the non-pilot was left to fend for himself.
Anyone can make a mistake, hours on type is no guarantee against that.
@@jamescaley9942 As a pilot, there are certain types of mistakes that I will NEVER make. Because those things are always at the front if my mind, a permanent part of my psyche. Because I make myself stay afraid of the fatal consequences. There are no excuses in aviation, just incident reports.
Timothy Campbell And yet- you can still make a mistake. MOST accidents in General Aviation are caused by pilot error. Even the most experience professional pilots sometimes make simple mistakes.
The attitude that it ‘won’t happen to me’ because I am more careful is a primary attribution error, and is the very mentality that causes pilot error mishaps.
This aircraft was flying the same route the company took nearly all customers on. Flying low to the water the way a hundred kit Fox and carbon cub pilots do every day. This day, the pilot took what he thought was the canyon that lead to the larger area of the lake where he was planning to land the aircraft on the water... instead he turned one canyon too soon and ended up in Portuguese cove- by the time he saw he was in the wrong cove, he did not have enough water in front of him to land so he tried to climb. Realizing he couldn’t clear the surrounding hills he tried a 180, but had to cut back on power to make the bank sharper and so lost altitude as he turned. Coming out of the turn he was descending and tried to gain enough airspeed to climb out of the descent... but ran out of altitude.
Sadly, had his first instinct not been to climb, he might have been able to set it down hard on the water and run her aground before running out of wet... certainly destroying the aircraft and likely being serious injured, but at least perhaps surviving. Much faster and easier to DROP 50 feet when you only have 56kts - than to climb 700 feet...
But then, MOSt pilots who get themselves killed were killed by their first instinct.
@@christopherpardell4418 Good point. "It won't happen to me because I am more careful" is true only when one is indeed actually more careful.
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TFC, I must say THIS IS IMPRESSIVE!
tfc?
During my 59 years of flying, this was one of my rules: Before you get 1500 hours, don't ever buzz; after you get 1500 hours, don't ever buzz. (One other thing for pilots: the sky is really a very safe place, but the edge of the sky can be very dangerous.)
When the manufacturer itself wants to position the aircraft with a recreational focus as if airplanes were too complex or complicated, that's what you get. Flying is not a joke, or a game. In the end, the pilot did exactly what the CEO wanted: he got out there and interacted with his world.
Well, that's a deceiving marketing slogan (and a fatal too); for private leisure non-pro or commercial flight I get it they would simplify things but at least build the plane with enough power to climb a f'n canyon UNDER ALMOST PERFECT WEATHER; the pilot could have attempted a water landing giving the fact they advertise the plane as aquatic too
Well, the pilot certainly made an impact that's for sure.
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That reminds me of the plane that John Denver crashed in. That would make a great crash analysis video, hint, hint. Keep up the great work , I enjoy, greatly, all you do. Thanks so much.
To flight channel, the John Denver idea is a good one
I don't think he was in a plane.
it was one of those kites with an engine.
@@MrYfrank14 I thought he was in a Long EZ or something similar.
It was a long easy it had been built with the throttle directly behind him, so he couldn't get to it fast enough and he ran out of fuel. Before he left the airport maintenance tried to get him to refill his tanks, but he refused. That seems so ridiculous that he would do that, but that's the main reason many pilots die, they don't ever think it can happen to me
Thanks for the help with the aircraft, my uncle, who is a flight instructor and also trained me, said that they are some of the most dangerous aircraft to fly. This is due to cramped cockpit, and its not faa certified.
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Pilot: "Wait, this isn't right. Is it that canyon or...."
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
This is why flight plans are vital. This is why these videos are educational.
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Well said, I teach that to every single one of my students.
Oh, my god, this thing looks like it’s powered by a big rubber band.
The Rotax engine is a very popular and successful aircraft power plant. Sadly this crash was caused by pilot error.
Great vid, love the new MS sim program! Always thought about this accident...how do you crash an amphib instead of simply land on the lake, turn around & take off?
Arrogance.
The decision to land is done after he sees suddenly the end of the lake (2500 feet at best) while still being at 450 feet.
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Just discovered this channel. So enjoyable and well made!
Okay, I give up. It is now pretty much impossible for me to tell what is simulated and what isn't. Even the water looks real! Bravo TFC! Nice job!
Great re-creation using MS2020!
Hi blancolirio...Do you think these sport planes should even be allowed to fly unless its in an uninhabited area with no other air traffic ? thx.
@@sl123sl yh
World be great if that thing had some 10000ft/min climb performance... well, maybe not that much, but it seems to me that this a/c has inadequate climb performance for its designed to be used for.
Idk why when using msfs2020 flying smaller planes like they are so easy to maneuver and thats not realistic i mean yeah small planes can maneuver better than big planes but they are so fragile
Is that ms flight simulator?
Flying into unfamiliar and familiar box canyons with low powered planes at low altitudes have killed many pilots, and actually quite a few in the CA mountains.
Bruce Gellar ( Mission Impossible creator in a C337) , Frank Tallman(famous stuntman in an Piper Apache) to name a couple. Their were complicated with low ceilings and fog, but these familiar stories , the almost always fatal 180 turn or just flying into the side of mountains are hard lessons never learned. Always sad. Awesome vid.
The standard training routine for this plane certification teaches doing a higher altitude overflight of your proposed landing site; if he followed their own training he would have seen that this was the wrong canyon and flew on to the correct longer one.
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Great work as always! Love the new simulator and I'm excited about what's to come!
Beautifully edited!
Yes!!! Another banger! Now in MSFS, Realism:100
Your videos are always awesome TFC!
Oh, man, I'm sorry to learn that Jon Karkow was in this crash. I only met Jon once or twice in my decades in Mojave, but he also owned a set of four tiny houses on K st that were known as the "Karkowminiums" locally. I was so wrapped up in XCOR's final days that a lot of other news at the time didn't register with me.
Why do people dislike this? It takes lots of efforts to create this kind of videos. Also good luck The FlightChannel for future
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@@martinc.720 yep i found thousands of these comments
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I live in this area and the graphics are stunningly accurate both with the airport and the terrain surrounding the airport and Lake Berryessa. Fabulous re-creation
Lol I was just watching your other video when I got notification of this video.
Same😆
Wow the new simulator made this sooo reaaaal.. Fantastic job!
I would have thought a pilot of that experience would have put down on the lake turn round and took off again.
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Extremely best animation with best choice of background music. You're epic your videos are masterpiece ❤️
4:23 "At the intersection of aviation and artistry, the Icon A5 is an elegant two seat amphibious light-sport aircraft specifically designed to embrace the adventure of flying."
Lofty drivel characteristic of today, but, getting back to reality, the pilot still has to fly the aircraft.
geoh7777 sounds like a lawnmower
@@sherriquinley8100 Has the horsepower of a lawnmower too!
Your work on this channel is AMAZING !
As in many aircraft accidents, human error is the cause. In this case, pilot error caused two men their lives. Needlessly. RIP.
Another great clip, TFC. You're getting better! 🙂
I know nothing about flying other than what I've seen on this awesome channel. But - this is an amphibious plane. When the pilot appeared to realize he was in trouble, I wonder why he didn't attempt to land on that lake?
First video in this awesome game. CANNOT WAIT FOR MORE CONTENT KEEP IT UP KING.
Please recreate the miracle on the Hudson in mfs2020, yes I know that the aircraft is not the A320 neo.... but the graphics! Gesus . Keep up your work, Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
This simulator got a lot more realistic! Thanks TheFlightChannel!
Not sure why, but I really am fascinated by these videos, particularly how they are made. It would be great if you would produce a "making of...." video where you show the process that you go through to put one of these videos together.
Flight simulator programmes are freely available to buy... all you have to is get good at using it them simulate the characteristics of the various crashes using all available details.. Lol sounds easy but I'm guessing it's not.
You know it's gonna be a good day when TheFlightChannel uploads the same time you're other favourite RUclipsrs upload!
I can never get tired of your work. Dunno if you remember me, but this is dedication to be producing work at this quality and efficiency. Truly a pleasure to be able to watch this content for free. Keep it up.
Amazing graphics! Your content is consistently high quality.
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Dude, this looks better than the pervious videos! Can't wait for more from this simulator
An experienced pilot showing off, is the impression I'm left with. He over-estimated his own abilities and left investigators, and undoubtedly the loved one's of both pilot and passenger, as to WTF went wrong.
X X nonsense. Experience is merely a measure of the amount of flying a person has undergone coupled with the number of different situations and planes he’s been in. An experienced pilot could become reckless OR he could learn to be methodical, detail oriented and prone to planning his flights. Merging experience and danger is just stupid.
Breeknow You need human factors training ...... and when you’re done , you’ll delete your comment .
Duncan D McGrath So, experience = danger. Got it. SMH
Duncan D McGrath btw crm trained, baby. So shut the f up.
@@breeknow AOPA has a writer that made the very same point... the ICON A5 has a problem with killing experienced pilots, because the aircraft handles so well that they forget that it's bleeding close to it's limits while handling *that well*. Airspeed low, need just a little more power... whoops, you were already getting 95% and now you're f*cked because you boxed yourself in a corner with no exit.
Long story short, pilots used to trusting other airplanes in ways that you can't trust this one, finding themselves caught in their own trap.
waited so long to see an air crash recreation in fs2020, thank you for coming thru!!!!!
All the certifications and flight hours in the world don't matter once you decide to do something stupid. Altitude is safety.
I go to Lake Berryessa all the time and when I saw this I was shocked. I never knew there was a plane crash here. It's a weird feeling seeing a video made on my local area
Was impressed by the underwing surface reflection. ~5:40
This is actually the best channel which tells you about plane crashes
A sad experience that must be learned from. To me the Icon A5 is a true sea plan and also more of a flat flyer and is not a plane for fast maneuvers so plan ahead and know your terrain and your planes limitations. RIP.
I have always been recommended your channel to others because of your content. And I hope you keep using Microsoft Flight simulator 2020 Hoping for the best videos
You should do a video on the flying jet pack man sightings over LAX from a couple days ago.
was a weird story. those things cant fly at at that altitude nor at 300 mph. the only thing that can do that is the Dubai rocket man, and I doubt it was him.
He probably has to crash first....
@@khoado2060 from the story ""Person in a jetpack reported 300 yards south of the LA final at about 3,000 feet, 10-mile final," the controller said." the worlds only jetpack can fly half that height for 8 mins most
The visuals are now in a par with your story telling and technical informations: it's wonderful and educative, as always! Kudos!
these crashes are just sad
Another amazing video by TFC. Keep it up. Good luck
Pretty scary when their own chief pilot can’t fly the airplane. I have a seaplane rating and one of the first rules they teach you don’t go where you can’t get out.
You are right!
My brother in law has flown as a bush pilot in Alaska and all over the western U.S. Years ago I started lessons with him but quit.
I still remember him saying, know where you are going and if you're not sure you can get out, don't go in.
Flying is for knowing, not guessing !
I don't know who you are, but I can confidently say this pilot was more experienced than you, period. Sometimes highly experienced pilots make mistakes. Do you really think this pilot didn't know to avoid flying into canyons you can't fly out of? The mistake wasn't knowing that, it was making a wrong turn. Show some respect.
@@TheBeefBaron being more experienced in that airplane isn’t saying much and I maybe mistaken, but isn’t that lake where they do all their flight testing etc? Pilot should know that place pretty well. That thing is basically a jet ski with wings. BTW you come across sounding like you work for them
Wow, great job making this video. Thank you!
Just what I want to fly in: An airplane that wants to be an ATV. “It’s not about speed or altitude or flight instruments, because they’re boring. If we could have taken the seats out and just built a super high-powered hang glider, we’d have done that. It’s about getting you out there so you can, you know, make a real impact on the world.”
I think by making a real impact on the world they literally meant it - make an impact into the world, by crashing into it.
Nokil Hotrun Well to be fair, that was my joke-the company founder didn’t actually say anything about having an “impact”. That was one of the parts I made up as a way to (darkly) parody what he said. But the fact my joke/parody version seems like something the company really might have said is mildly terrifying, in terms of how seriously they take aviation safety in creating their aircraft, marketing it, training people to fly it, etc.
I don't know how that has anything to do with the crash... it was pilot error, the vehicle itself was not at fault at all.
Shannon McCrary I’m not saying it does; at least not directly. I just thought that the founder’s quote (which he said when the aircraft was introduced) suggested a bit of apathy toward safe aviation. If you release an airplane to compete in the same market as ATVs and motorcycle, rather than with other airplanes, it shouldn’t come as a shock when people fly it like an ATV. (I believe the late Hall-of-Fame MLB pitcher Roy Halladay was also flying an Icon pretty recklessly in his fatal crash, although he was also under the influence of drugs at the time.)
They used the word “interact” with your world. As in impact at high enough speed to kill the occupants.
Thankyou for posting this. I have always been curious about the situation in which a top test pilot could go so wrong.
I remember when this accident occurred, so sad; the Icon is still an Amazing aircraft though
Yes this accident wasn’t because of the plane, It’s a really good model maybe the pilot got a bit overconfident with the water landing feature
Wow the new flight simulator makes the videos look insane. It gives a whole new feeling to the crashes.
Simply this, your in a seaplane, land in the water and taxi out.
He couldn't determine the direction of the area he spotted to land. The co-pilot should have assisted as a spotter . Overall the issue was pilot error. He just didn't have enough altitude to correct his heading due to distance. ..
@DRESDEN 411 I'll be honest. It's funny until it happens to you. Hopefully they walked away.
@@kimroberson8376 It says at the end they were both killed.
@@rickl6697I didn't catch that. Hopefully people will learn a valuable lesson from this tragic mistake. .
Kim Roberson: There was no copilot. The passenger had no flying credentials whatsoever.
Nice work with the editing! MSFS2020 will do great things for your channel as we get additional aircraft. Nice job.
Icon pilots need to realize they're not flying an a high performance stunt plane. It may look sleek and quick but its just a basic LSA at heart.
By the way, this is the best air disaster channel on RUclips.
Feel for the passenger, he would have realised they were in trouble some time before the crash. Relying on others to do their job can be a bitch sometimes. Oh and that aircraft needs more power.
First thing came to mind as an aviation engineer .... This type of A/C needs more then 150 hp at least in order to get out of troubles at lower altitudes.....
Yep, I think they need to consider doubling the HP...
@@theoldman8877 - Thank you. I guess that wasn't such a good idea after all. 🙄
Yeah ..could use a bit more power but that had zero to do with these deaths .. purposely flying into a box canyon at low level that the plane can't climb out of is always avoidable ... also the rocket propelled chute can make a save at incredibly low altitude .. Numerous decisions not to die were not made
@@Fadil1954 yes, but the former CEO had something else in mind ... cutting down costs, in order to make it more affordable for the public ... that's why you need engineers who have the guts to say : NO BOSS ! THIS AIN'T GONNA WORK !
But nobody does that, especially when your job is at stake ... I see it everyday happen !
Basically it looks as though inexperience and loss of situational awareness FLEW IT INTO THE GROUND. Fantastic, well-produced video reproduction. Excellent video. Condolences...
Oh shoot, this is why I don't want airplane flying as my sport routine.
Okay, this video shouldn't be making you scared of flying. I see you don't understand flying a lot. *facepalm* .Listen, this is literally a one in a million crash.Being scared of airplanes can get you killed, because it's one of the safest things you can do. More people die from taking a run than flying sport aircraft. These videos are supposed to be educational to teach pilots what not to do and a tribute for the people who suffered from the crashes.
The main reason people don't do recreational flying is because of cost. Saying you don't want to do sports flying because of this is like saying you'd rather be a taxi driver than a pilot. By not flying, you're killing yourself. I know it sounds stupid and they don't sound like facts, after all, how can walking be more dangerous than flying, but these are hard facts. Look at the stats.
BS!
Off topic here but I will always remember the Nut Tree airport.
9/29/1979, the Nut Tree was the first stop of my and my late wifes honeymoon. We flew there in a Piper Comanche, stayed at the Brigadoon Inn (I think that's the name.....), rode the train a few times, really enjoyed ourselves.
One of the most pleasant memories I have!
7:04 honestly for a second I thought I that was real footage.
honestly?
Love the new flight simulator design Flightchannel. Such great detail 🤩🤩👏👏
The next video also made with MFS2020 will be: “Air Moorea Flight 1127”