Loving the temperature of the CBBs, same color as a new Lexus. Ive been running the morimoto 5500k for about 3 months now and they still have a green tint to them, kinda like the Philips XV.
I got the cbbs with d2s5.0s I decided to go with the xv2s I found them much better for visibility and pleasing to the eyes. The cbb just seemed like I was looking through a tinted windshield nice color but the performance wasn't amazing but still better than the morimoto xb5500 and xb6500 that's for sure
@@MikeLee661 CBBs would match with them I'm currently running night breaker lasers at 45w. Highly recommend going to a warmer bulb after xv2s I went to cbb for about 8 months when I went to the NBs they were so much better
@@mattmonroe5680 Have you ever tried Hella Hid Ultralight D2S?, I want to try it, but I'm a little hesitant because I don't know whether Hella has used anti-UV or not (i'm afraid if my headlamp getting yellow because wrong bulb) sorry if my english isnt good
I have the Phillips Xtreme Vision D3S in my 2014 Ford SHO and like them. However, at 4800k they're slightly too warm with a tad yellow/green hue. What bulb do you suggest that is both bright and more white color? Thanks for all these test videos!!
I've had both CBI and CBBs. They say CBI has a hint of blue and I strongly disagree. It's pure white (closer to 5000k than 6000k). However CBBs are white with a hint of blue (closer to 6000k than 7000k).
the first reading is the CBB. so its actually brighter. you said in the video they were the extreme vision, and the xtreme vision you said its the CBB... i think you misspoke.
larry ayala uhh no, if you see clearly he switched the bulbs around. When the CBB comes on you can also clearly tell the temperature difference. Just pay attention when the camera gets close you see who ever is handling the projectors actually move the CBB out the way and bring down the Gen2.
Yeah i agree, the first comparison shows the CBB slightly bluer white and when the two are compared, the first test is definitely bluer, if you flick back and forward to both tests. Just what it looks like from what i watched.
Many times - Aftermarket bulbs cant really stack up against the top OEM bulbs though, this is over a year old but it does paint a pretty good picture... www.lightwerkz.net/index.php/research/
I got the XNL in DS1. Illuminate I say, but the left side has a dark cone under the exit and generally glows worse than the right. Everything was fine before. Is that because of the burners? Could it have happened during delivery or is the dark spot still burning? Does anyone know more?
This may not be completely true but from what I heard is that the 5500K and 6000K CBI are one and the same, it is just that Osram had change the packaging so realistic there is no difference between the 5500 and 6000k CBI.
We could go on and on comparing bulbs all day long :) These are special because they are new and top performers. The White Vision and Xtreme Vision is very close in performance.
That depends on what is more important to you. Total Light Output or Color? The Gen 2 Xtreme vision is the brightest OEM bulb currently available. The White Vision gen 2 is the Whitest bulb currently produce by Philips but it is still not as white as the CBI or CBB and does not produce the same level of output. I currently have the Gen2 X-treme Vision in my vehicle and I am glad I chose that. Output is awesome with a enough white to please me but still has a tinge of yellow to inclement weather driving. One thing I've noticed is that modern cars that comes with LED these days are around the 5500-6500k color temp and during rainy condition the road absorbs almost all of the light.
I've noticed the same thing with my D2S Morimoto 5500k bulbs, and not just in rainy conditions. The light gets absorbed so much that it gets hard to see. I was going to get the CBB, but it looks like it will have the effect at night.
The Ultinon bulb is a complete failure in my book. The color is not as pure white as the CBI and also comes in marginally brighter than a stock 85122 philips bulb. The CBI/CBB or Philips X-treme would be noticeably brighter than the WX. That being said, the WX is the whitest of all the current Philips bulb being produce but it still does not compare to the CBB in terms of output.
Based on my experience with D3S CBB: Looking head on at the lights I would say they are pretty close to what you see in LED-equipped headlights. I have the Philips Ultinon H8 LED replacement foglight bulbs and the color temps looking directly at the lights is very close. The light cast on the ground by the D3S CBB however is noticeably different from an LED. CBB appears blue/green compared to a more purple/pure white that I see in some LED-equipped cars (Acura/Lexus). Compared to the Toyota Corolla and Chevy trucks the CBB appears less blue/purple and closer to a pure white. Keep in mind this is in OEM JEEP D3S housings (Valeo).
Chad McKinney I’ve been searching for a d3s bulb that replicates the purple/pure white color of leds, do u know of any that provide similar results. I’m trying to get that bright icy white light from my stock projectors (golf mk7) but after hearing the d3s cbb is disappointing in both color and output, I’m wondering if I should just go w xv gen 2’s for max performance. Or maybe white visions? Which d3s bulb would u recommend the most?
To be honest with you, I don't know. Wish I could give you a definitive answer short of saying retrofit your car to LED. I'm still feeling let down by the D3S CBB in the Jeep after roughly 15 hours of break-in. However they have lost some of the blue tinge and are shifting ever-so-slightly to white. Do they look like LED? Head-on from another vehicle you would probably think they are. The light cast on the ground is still telling a different story. I wish I could capture an accurate representation with with my Nikon DSLR, but I just can't. Thinking I'm going to order up White Vision Gen 2 and do a comparison. White Vision Gen 2 in my E90 BMW (D1S w/ Hella Ballast) is still blowing away the D3S CBB in my WK2 Jeep. This may always be the case no matter which bulbs are in either car due to the optics and the fact that D3S is quite different from D1S.
Chad McKinney Interestingly Osrams site lists the luminous flux of the d3s cbb as 200 lumens lower than the d1s cbb, so it might be due to differences between bulb types. Has the output improved and did you get a chance to test white visions in d3s? A comparison of the two in your stock jeep projectors would be great.
They have shifted from noticeably blue to more white. There has been no discernible difference in output with the color shift. I have not tried the Philips bulbs yet as the daylight hours are getting longer quickly, so headlight usage is minimized. Therefore it isn't concerning me at the moment. Once Fall hits I may be back at it trying to find a better alternative.
I wouldn't judge it by this video. It's using two separate projectors - with a camera phone to come up the video - could sway results. This is just for lux/color comparison.
I bought the Osram Cool Blue Intense CBI and Osram Blue Boost OBB from an authorized distributor's shop like amazon and ebay and surprise! Yellow light. It's not up to 7000K but 4200K. Money spent for nothing.
This week after our convo I ordered off Amazon for $142 delivered, confirmed on Osram site that numbers match. I just popped them in they are are more yellow than my previous phillips 6k ultinon D4S bulbs. You are right. However, I turned them on and off a few more times and a few times they'd light up as purple and then gradually go to a yellower shade. I did read that some bulbs require a month to burn in, though usually they start off more blue and turn white. I will give it a few weeks and reply back how my experience goes. I bought off Amazon because seller was rated high and I figured returns would be easy if fake.@@Sulfuristik
You description is confusing along with what you show in video, you had Philips on top and Osram on bottom and then when you tested you said it was Extreme Vision?? Then you switched bulb into different projector and gave reading for CBB. Very confusing and not sure which was which. This test was a failure, sorry. I could see the Osram CBB was whiter which was on bottom, you tested output first but called it Extreme Vision, then you shut down top bulb put into projector that you had CBB in? Then tested it and called it a CBB. ALL the tests I've seen are flawed yours, TheRetrofitSourse, and others. WHY, do you continue to hand hold the projector??? That's NOT a controlled condition. MOUNT the projector and swap out bulbs instead of moving the projector around, unless you like being vague with these tests. You have meter mounted, bulb mounted(in projector), and then hand hold moving it around. Shouldn't be to difficult to mount projector, properly aim mounted projector with "controll bulb" use same ballast AND projector for ALL tests then all you have to do is swap bulbs.
I'm sorry to hear you found the test confusing and flawed. I rewatched it myself and couldn't find any confusion on my end. We showed two different bulbs, in two different projectors at first with the Extreme Vision up top, CBB on the bottom. Got the lux in low beam mode, then in high beam mode, and then took the CBB out of the other projector and placed it into the same projector that the lux readings taken in to be as close to apples to apples comparison. The CBB was being shown while I was walking up to the wall, but it was removed and the Extreme Vision was brought into the picture for lux testing. I'm sorry to hear hand holding the projector bothers you, have you considered doing your own tests? As with anything you see on the internet, best to take it with a grain of salt =)
Loving the temperature of the CBBs, same color as a new Lexus.
Ive been running the morimoto 5500k for about 3 months now and they still have a green tint to them, kinda like the Philips XV.
I appreciate your lack of bias.
I got the cbbs with d2s5.0s I decided to go with the xv2s I found them much better for visibility and pleasing to the eyes. The cbb just seemed like I was looking through a tinted windshield nice color but the performance wasn't amazing but still better than the morimoto xb5500 and xb6500 that's for sure
Would you mind helping me match or suggesting what would be close to my morimoto XB led foglights please?
@@MikeLee661 CBBs would match with them I'm currently running night breaker lasers at 45w. Highly recommend going to a warmer bulb after xv2s I went to cbb for about 8 months when I went to the NBs they were so much better
@@mattmonroe5680 Have you ever tried Hella Hid Ultralight D2S?, I want to try it, but I'm a little hesitant because I don't know whether Hella has used anti-UV or not (i'm afraid if my headlamp getting yellow because wrong bulb)
sorry if my english isnt good
do you mind shearing where did you buy them? i need some just being cautious about the knockoffs
Can u please do a comparition between Philips Xtreme Vision Gen2 vs Osram Xenarc Night Breaker unlimited please?? Color temp and lumen as well please
after the cbb break in does it perform better in rain/super dark roads vs the xv2 4800k since those appear to be the brightest
Osram cool blue Colorful color in the way At night Try it in your car and see the difference
I have the Phillips Xtreme Vision D3S in my 2014 Ford SHO and like them. However, at 4800k they're slightly too warm with a tad yellow/green hue. What bulb do you suggest that is both bright and more white color? Thanks for all these test videos!!
I've had both CBI and CBBs. They say CBI has a hint of blue and I strongly disagree. It's pure white (closer to 5000k than 6000k). However CBBs are white with a hint of blue (closer to 6000k than 7000k).
I confirme that!
Should do the Phillips Gen 2 versus the Phillips WhiteVision gen 2
the first reading is the CBB. so its actually brighter. you said in the video they were the extreme vision, and the xtreme vision you said its the CBB... i think you misspoke.
First reading is the Xtreme Vision. The CBB/TLR Combo was removed from the wall and we showed the Xtreme Vision.
I saw that too, he mix them up lol !!!!
larry ayala uhh no, if you see clearly he switched the bulbs around. When the CBB comes on you can also clearly tell the temperature difference. Just pay attention when the camera gets close you see who ever is handling the projectors actually move the CBB out the way and bring down the Gen2.
Yeah i agree, the first comparison shows the CBB slightly bluer white and when the two are compared, the first test is definitely bluer, if you flick back and forward to both tests. Just what it looks like from what i watched.
Got a video of these new CBB's installed if anyone wants to take a look :)!
How long has the Philips gen 2 been out? And the minute a better bulb comes out please make a video review
They just came out a few months ago. The CBB just came out the other day. We don't except any new bulbs coming out soon.
Lightwerkz Global Inc. thank you. I always try to know what’s the best D2s bulb available.
@Aquahair Wax Not much has changed in this department.
How about an OEM vs aftermarket shootout? Or has it been done?
Many times - Aftermarket bulbs cant really stack up against the top OEM bulbs though, this is over a year old but it does paint a pretty good picture... www.lightwerkz.net/index.php/research/
Thanks for that. Have you seen any color shift to a whiter color with XVgen2?
I got the XNL in DS1. Illuminate I say, but the left side has a dark cone under the exit and generally glows worse than the right. Everything was fine before. Is that because of the burners? Could it have happened during delivery or is the dark spot still burning? Does anyone know more?
Sounds like the bulbs aren't properly seated.
There is a color tone difference between the two CBBs I bought in the same box. one looks a little green. is this normal?
No
Can you redo the CBB one? I noticed that there was not much fluctuations during your testing? Thanks
These are peak figures so they will only go up, not down if the meter finds a higher lux reading.
Could you compare cbb 7000k with cbi 6000k ?? Im just waiting this test to finish my purschase.
www.lightwerkz.net/photo/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-osram-xenarc-cool-blue-boost-d2s/
Lightwerkz Global Inc. I thought was 5500k in this link. Mine is cbi 6000k but i really want something whiter.
This may not be completely true but from what I heard is that the 5500K and 6000K CBI are one and the same, it is just that Osram had change the packaging so realistic there is no difference between the 5500 and 6000k CBI.
there is only 5% diffrence,i changed from osram night breaker laser to ccb and colour temp of cbb is like 4800k not even close to 6k
Should do the Phillips Gen 2 versus the Phillips WhiteVision gen 2 . D2s bulbs
We could go on and on comparing bulbs all day long :) These are special because they are new and top performers. The White Vision and Xtreme Vision is very close in performance.
Franky G You should check out TheRetrofitSource Inc YT channel. They did a Philips comparison between their HID bulbs.
That depends on what is more important to you.
Total Light Output or Color?
The Gen 2 Xtreme vision is the brightest OEM bulb currently available.
The White Vision gen 2 is the Whitest bulb currently produce by Philips but it is still not as white as the CBI or CBB and does not produce the same level of output.
I currently have the Gen2 X-treme Vision in my vehicle and I am glad I chose that.
Output is awesome with a enough white to please me but still has a tinge of yellow to inclement weather driving.
One thing I've noticed is that modern cars that comes with LED these days are around the 5500-6500k color temp and during rainy condition the road absorbs almost all of the light.
does yours have greenish hue like ones in the video >?
I've noticed the same thing with my D2S Morimoto 5500k bulbs, and not just in rainy conditions. The light gets absorbed so much that it gets hard to see. I was going to get the CBB, but it looks like it will have the effect at night.
Osram just released the cbb and its odd that they stepped outside there normal color range 7000k is new for them
Market keeps asking for a high performance cool white bulb - they delivered! Philips has not yet for example.
Lightwerkz Global Inc. Yea plus it help to have some decent ballast also.... What projectors where those in? G5 or D2s 4.0
This is TL-R
How would these twos compare to the Philips Ultinon 85122wx?
Hybrids Vader ultinon is an old bulb. Poor performer. No comparison. CBB is the top bulb for a cool bluish white bulb.
Good to know.
The Ultinon bulb is a complete failure in my book.
The color is not as pure white as the CBI and also comes in marginally brighter than a stock 85122 philips bulb.
The CBI/CBB or Philips X-treme would be noticeably brighter than the WX.
That being said, the WX is the whitest of all the current Philips bulb being produce but it still does not compare to the CBB in terms of output.
above is Osram and below Phillips?
Donde puedo comprar los osram 7000k hiper blue
I understand that the Osram Cbb give 800 lux in low beam. It is possible that a tone similar to led?
Based on my experience with D3S CBB:
Looking head on at the lights I would say they are pretty close to what you see in LED-equipped headlights. I have the Philips Ultinon H8 LED replacement foglight bulbs and the color temps looking directly at the lights is very close. The light cast on the ground by the D3S CBB however is noticeably different from an LED. CBB appears blue/green compared to a more purple/pure white that I see in some LED-equipped cars (Acura/Lexus). Compared to the Toyota Corolla and Chevy trucks the CBB appears less blue/purple and closer to a pure white. Keep in mind this is in OEM JEEP D3S housings (Valeo).
Chad McKinney I’ve been searching for a d3s bulb that replicates the purple/pure white color of leds, do u know of any that provide similar results. I’m trying to get that bright icy white light from my stock projectors (golf mk7) but after hearing the d3s cbb is disappointing in both color and output, I’m wondering if I should just go w xv gen 2’s for max performance. Or maybe white visions? Which d3s bulb would u recommend the most?
To be honest with you, I don't know. Wish I could give you a definitive answer short of saying retrofit your car to LED. I'm still feeling let down by the D3S CBB in the Jeep after roughly 15 hours of break-in. However they have lost some of the blue tinge and are shifting ever-so-slightly to white. Do they look like LED? Head-on from another vehicle you would probably think they are. The light cast on the ground is still telling a different story. I wish I could capture an accurate representation with with my Nikon DSLR, but I just can't. Thinking I'm going to order up White Vision Gen 2 and do a comparison. White Vision Gen 2 in my E90 BMW (D1S w/ Hella Ballast) is still blowing away the D3S CBB in my WK2 Jeep. This may always be the case no matter which bulbs are in either car due to the optics and the fact that D3S is quite different from D1S.
Chad McKinney Interestingly Osrams site lists the luminous flux of the d3s cbb as 200 lumens lower than the d1s cbb, so it might be due to differences between bulb types. Has the output improved and did you get a chance to test white visions in d3s? A comparison of the two in your stock
jeep projectors would be great.
They have shifted from noticeably blue to more white. There has been no discernible difference in output with the color shift. I have not tried the Philips bulbs yet as the daylight hours are getting longer quickly, so headlight usage is minimized. Therefore it isn't concerning me at the moment. Once Fall hits I may be back at it trying to find a better alternative.
It seems that the CBB has a bigger hotspot?
I wouldn't judge it by this video. It's using two separate projectors - with a camera phone to come up the video - could sway results. This is just for lux/color comparison.
Wall distance?
Great comparison bro... but they r on 35 w ballast i need it on 55 w ??? Waiting
OEM Denso 35W
Lightwerkz Global Inc. Needing morimoto 55w
I understand that the Osram Cbb give 800 lux in low beam. It is possible that a tone similar to led?
Germán Quintana Calle ..no br ...it gives 460 lux
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bottom (lower) cbb?
yes
Who won?
Philips Xtreme Vision Gen 2 is the brightest bulb on the market.
какая снизу?
Osram CBB Cool Blue Boost
I bought the Osram Cool Blue Intense CBI and Osram Blue Boost OBB from an authorized distributor's shop like amazon and ebay and surprise! Yellow light. It's not up to 7000K but 4200K. Money spent for nothing.
there have also been countless people posting up purchases from eBay and amazon that ended up being fakes..Perhaps that's the issue?
@@valdaviper1 no fakes for me
@@Sulfuristik 4200K is sold as a halogen version - this is the xenon bulb version - are you sure you bought and received the xenon bulb?
@@FrostedLight Yes Xenarc D1S osram 66140 CBI and CBB
This week after our convo I ordered off Amazon for $142 delivered, confirmed on Osram site that numbers match. I just popped them in they are are more yellow than my previous phillips 6k ultinon D4S bulbs. You are right. However, I turned them on and off a few more times and a few times they'd light up as purple and then gradually go to a yellower shade. I did read that some bulbs require a month to burn in, though usually they start off more blue and turn white. I will give it a few weeks and reply back how my experience goes. I bought off Amazon because seller was rated high and I figured returns would be easy if fake.@@Sulfuristik
You description is confusing along with what you show in video, you had Philips on top and Osram on bottom and then when you tested you said it was Extreme Vision?? Then you switched bulb into different projector and gave reading for CBB. Very confusing and not sure which was which. This test was a failure, sorry. I could see the Osram CBB was whiter which was on bottom, you tested output first but called it Extreme Vision, then you shut down top bulb put into projector that you had CBB in? Then tested it and called it a CBB.
ALL the tests I've seen are flawed yours, TheRetrofitSourse, and others. WHY, do you continue to hand hold the projector??? That's NOT a controlled condition. MOUNT the projector and swap out bulbs instead of moving the projector around, unless you like being vague with these tests. You have meter mounted, bulb mounted(in projector), and then hand hold moving it around.
Shouldn't be to difficult to mount projector, properly aim mounted projector with "controll bulb" use same ballast AND projector for ALL tests then all you have to do is swap bulbs.
I'm sorry to hear you found the test confusing and flawed. I rewatched it myself and couldn't find any confusion on my end. We showed two different bulbs, in two different projectors at first with the Extreme Vision up top, CBB on the bottom. Got the lux in low beam mode, then in high beam mode, and then took the CBB out of the other projector and placed it into the same projector that the lux readings taken in to be as close to apples to apples comparison. The CBB was being shown while I was walking up to the wall, but it was removed and the Extreme Vision was brought into the picture for lux testing. I'm sorry to hear hand holding the projector bothers you, have you considered doing your own tests? As with anything you see on the internet, best to take it with a grain of salt =)
The test wasn't confusing! It was very straight forward! You are probably an idiot left wing Liberal who is pissed off at life and always is confused!
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