As someone who’ve played Ryu on and off throughout the series, one thing people don’t really talk about is how simple he is to play compared to previous versions. I could never really focus cancel in 4 so I could never play him at a high level, and in 5, it just felt like he didn’t have the tools to hit as hard as other characters. Now he can dish out damage and all it takes is a 2 button combo repeating with drive rushes in between.
Ryu is good and finally has something unique compared to Akuma and Ken that he does, but in reality he still doesn't compete with the top tiers. Ken still has way better mixups and pressure with his Jinrai, better meterless damage, better corner carry, just all around more utility and strong vortex which are amazing to have especially in an aggressive game. Ken basically gets to play the old Akuma gameplan of get them in a bad situation and keep them there with repeated mixups on their wakeup. One of the best offensive gameplans in the game. Ryu isn't the best at defense either, Akuma has him beat by far. Akuma has way better fireballs with variable timing with charge which makes them near impossible to consistently perfect parry, way better jump ins that can get him more plus frames than Ryu to get a mix off of, let him escape the corner or reversal the situation at any time, etc. Then he dominated Ryu in neutral too with way better movement to land his hits, and bigger/better normals to make landing hits even easier. So Akuma is just going to have stronger options in every game state, and can play a much more effective safe fireball and poke style of neutral/footsies than Ryu can. So what does Ryu have? Looping plus frames, great meter pressure, and theoretically the best damage. The problem is that these things aren't enough. Burnout sucks but it isn't like he magically becomes super scary just because he burned the opponent out, his plus frames are great sure but he basically gets 1 strike throw mix or loops for meter pressure and that's it. Yes his damage is theoretically the highest of the shotos at its peak, but when he requires and install to get that damage boost while other characters have better meterless damage and can land their hits to get that damage much more easily, the better theoretical numbers become worse in practice because he won't land them nearly as often. As a rough comparison: 5 damage x 4 times, is better than 8 damage twice. Ryu also has a major weakness that the other two don't: he is very simple in comparison. He doesn't have skill checks, gimmicks, movement tricks, nothing that he can really test the opponent with to steamroll them or cheese a win when he needs to. He has to win through pure fundamentals and getting his install momentum going, but he doesn't even have as good of fundamental tools as the other shotos, none as good as Akuma and the ones he has over Ken are the least important. There is a reason we saw 0 Ryus at Evo. All of them were gone by top 96 because he has to outplay people consistently in a way that just isn't consistently doable unless you are just fundamentally better than the opponent enough to compensate for skill checks and gimmicks they have while having none yourself and still get an advantage. That just isn't going to happen often at high level to get that far, the best players in the world who could outplay everyone like Punk, the birds, Tokido, etc, are smart enough not to waste their time with Ryu. Ryu still needs some more buffs to be able to hang with the top tiers. Whether it be a new move, or buffing his current arsenal to fix some of his issues, he still needs more. One great buff would be to his movement. His normals are nothing special but his walk speed is only average when he has no good burst options, and his dash is one of the worst for absolutely no reason.
That Manon Player DopeBoyFresh. I wonder if he got nervous knowing it was @JJWongg. He seems like he was a better player than what we saw in this match. then again, Justin is ridiculous.
I think there are some Ryu's moves that people don't take all the advantage from them... Like the axe kick, it is much more useful than it seems. It stops a lot of attacks 🤭
0:09 CAPCOM , why not have RYU have lazerbeam super as a secret Akuma raging demon-esque secret super? Command should be easier tho . 15:27 8:33 oh Jwonggs RYU Jumped out? 10:58. 11:00 KO 12:45 16:51 16:56 Closing comments STRIVING for PERFECTION. SF6 is the Perfect One.
The Hyakkishu (aka Demon Flip) is not a Satsui no Hadou technique. Gouken has it. Maybe they should give Ryu that throw that was removed from Akuma's Demon Flip option. Ryu has too few moves compared to Ken, Akuma and even Luke.
Ryu got big buff but too late Ken still top5 in S2, pros who used Ken do not need to change the character they used to Pros who want to drop Luke(T2 character in S2) have another option, Akuma Akuma is much more suitable for agressive play style of SF6
I think he has moved up, but I don’t think he has made top 5. Right now at a solid A tier though 😊 Gonna take that stack at 2:34 😅 CMP > SHP > HPS > DI So sick 😊
I always liked Ken’s fighting style over Ryu but with him hitting like a tank is peaking my interest. Ken has prettier combos but Ryu combos just look vicious.
"Lock" is a state that is triggered to prevent true unblockable situations. The best example of it is when your opponent is in burnout and you try to hit a normal that acts as a true blockstring into Drive Impact for the stun. The Drive Impact will still make contact, but it will only blow the opponent back into a stagger (like it does when it's blocked) instead of scoring the stun. This happens because the developers wanted to ensure that there was always a gap and an opportunity to escape if Drive Impact is being used.
He got hit with the impact while still in hitstun, you'll see that it says "lock" on the right. It means you impacted your opponent while they in hitstun. Happens more often in burnout because it adds +4 when hit or block to attaxks
Ryu is the most fun character in the game IMO, but I think he misses some spice like Ken. I think giving his Tatsumaki being somewhat like Ken's would be cool
That close quarters hadoken reminds me of SNK's Ko-ou ken. I am glad finally capcom saw the potential of close range fireball instead of being a joke move with Dan
True top tier tends to come down to "broken characters that abuse the mechanics" discovered over time though, usually in ways the developer didnt anticipate, like roll cancelling in CvS2. Ryu has almost never been a BAD character and usually has pretty good fundamentals.
@computervision557 C.m was a nightmare pre-patch. I'm glad that's all they really fixed rather than nerf him to the ground. Characters deserve to be viable not dead haha
@@paorasimon4957 Luke become mediocre character in S2, he is not good at defensive play style anymore In S2 you better play him as a rush down character, a mediaocre one. You may aruge he is still T0, but the truth is almost every pros drop him, usage rate of Luke drop fron 10%to 4%(roughly), winrate of master rank drop from 51% to 49%
Makes me happy knowing that I'm not the only one that does fireball and gets DP mid string or try to do hashogeki and get fireball/DP. I thought I was messing up my execution 95% of the time.
@@edgarleon4680 just give it time, hopefully people like bigbird will start using him because he thinks ryu is top 5 right now and he does hit like a tank, hopefully we see some ryu’s in top 16 at EVO this year
I rank characters mostly based on how hard the match up is. So to me all shotos are low tier matchups. And the more unpredictable and tricky to have a beat on is highest. Characters like Rashid, Blanka, AKI, JP and more.
That “HMMM, HMMM, HMMM” from A.K.I was getting to me, too…was over here saying “STOP LYING ON THE FLOOR!” right along with you 😆 Ryu’s definitely a problem for opps in Season 2.
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13:37 Justin is really evolving the ryu meta with that setup
😂
all part of the plan
Damn he's good
As someone who’ve played Ryu on and off throughout the series, one thing people don’t really talk about is how simple he is to play compared to previous versions. I could never really focus cancel in 4 so I could never play him at a high level, and in 5, it just felt like he didn’t have the tools to hit as hard as other characters. Now he can dish out damage and all it takes is a 2 button combo repeating with drive rushes in between.
.... No way focus cancel is hard bruh, you didn't buffer your dashes
Not having special cancellable st.HP gated behind V Trigger was refreshing.
@@chungusamongus519shut up dork, you didn’t play SF4. 1f links for days boy
ryu really needed this after 5 games 😭😭
He was alright in SF4, especially vanilla
@@mattyryonas a ryu main in sf4 vanilla, agree
What 5 games ? SFV is the only one that destroyed him
@@EchoEcho-q4r sf3 ryu is low tier too
@@philipesantos484hm?
Ryu is good and finally has something unique compared to Akuma and Ken that he does, but in reality he still doesn't compete with the top tiers.
Ken still has way better mixups and pressure with his Jinrai, better meterless damage, better corner carry, just all around more utility and strong vortex which are amazing to have especially in an aggressive game. Ken basically gets to play the old Akuma gameplan of get them in a bad situation and keep them there with repeated mixups on their wakeup. One of the best offensive gameplans in the game.
Ryu isn't the best at defense either, Akuma has him beat by far. Akuma has way better fireballs with variable timing with charge which makes them near impossible to consistently perfect parry, way better jump ins that can get him more plus frames than Ryu to get a mix off of, let him escape the corner or reversal the situation at any time, etc. Then he dominated Ryu in neutral too with way better movement to land his hits, and bigger/better normals to make landing hits even easier. So Akuma is just going to have stronger options in every game state, and can play a much more effective safe fireball and poke style of neutral/footsies than Ryu can.
So what does Ryu have? Looping plus frames, great meter pressure, and theoretically the best damage. The problem is that these things aren't enough. Burnout sucks but it isn't like he magically becomes super scary just because he burned the opponent out, his plus frames are great sure but he basically gets 1 strike throw mix or loops for meter pressure and that's it. Yes his damage is theoretically the highest of the shotos at its peak, but when he requires and install to get that damage boost while other characters have better meterless damage and can land their hits to get that damage much more easily, the better theoretical numbers become worse in practice because he won't land them nearly as often.
As a rough comparison: 5 damage x 4 times, is better than 8 damage twice.
Ryu also has a major weakness that the other two don't: he is very simple in comparison. He doesn't have skill checks, gimmicks, movement tricks, nothing that he can really test the opponent with to steamroll them or cheese a win when he needs to. He has to win through pure fundamentals and getting his install momentum going, but he doesn't even have as good of fundamental tools as the other shotos, none as good as Akuma and the ones he has over Ken are the least important.
There is a reason we saw 0 Ryus at Evo. All of them were gone by top 96 because he has to outplay people consistently in a way that just isn't consistently doable unless you are just fundamentally better than the opponent enough to compensate for skill checks and gimmicks they have while having none yourself and still get an advantage. That just isn't going to happen often at high level to get that far, the best players in the world who could outplay everyone like Punk, the birds, Tokido, etc, are smart enough not to waste their time with Ryu.
Ryu still needs some more buffs to be able to hang with the top tiers. Whether it be a new move, or buffing his current arsenal to fix some of his issues, he still needs more. One great buff would be to his movement. His normals are nothing special but his walk speed is only average when he has no good burst options, and his dash is one of the worst for absolutely no reason.
ok hes mid low tier we know..justin is only daysreaming ahah
That Manon Player DopeBoyFresh. I wonder if he got nervous knowing it was @JJWongg. He seems like he was a better player than what we saw in this match. then again, Justin is ridiculous.
"MY TURN" is probably the most relatable moment ever.
I’m liking the haircut, man - color too!
that manon was pretty legit though
I love how the second Justin keeps still, the other guy immediately panics and lvl3.
I think there are some Ryu's moves that people don't take all the advantage from them... Like the axe kick, it is much more useful than it seems. It stops a lot of attacks 🤭
Everybody loves a good Ryu.
What is this song in 6:12?
0:09 CAPCOM , why not have RYU have lazerbeam super as a secret Akuma raging demon-esque secret super? Command should be easier tho . 15:27
8:33 oh Jwonggs RYU Jumped out?
10:58. 11:00 KO 12:45
16:51
16:56 Closing comments STRIVING for PERFECTION. SF6 is the Perfect One.
This makes me want to learn Ryu. Amazing watching Justin be great with every fighter in SF6 😅 🐐
11:30 how didn't that DI stun the ken? is it cause the DI was performed mid combo before burn out was established?
Drive rush st.HP into DI was a true blockstring, so DI couldn't stun.
The Hyakkishu (aka Demon Flip) is not a Satsui no Hadou technique. Gouken has it. Maybe they should give Ryu that throw that was removed from Akuma's Demon Flip option. Ryu has too few moves compared to Ken, Akuma and even Luke.
I felt how good ryu is recently, good ryus are legit scary
MAH TURN!!!
Será que teremos algum Ryu nessa Evo? 🇧🇷
You da GOAT. I wish I can play as Ryu as fluently like you. Damns...
Ryu's training has finally paid off
15:28 I've experienced this as well...😅
I think that Ryu is top tier but most people use Ken I've noticed.
Most pros. Average people use more Ryu than Ken
Ryu got big buff but too late
Ken still top5 in S2, pros who used Ken do not need to change the character they used to
Pros who want to drop Luke(T2 character in S2) have another option, Akuma
Akuma is much more suitable for agressive play style of SF6
Low ranks, Ken is almost twice as common as Ryu. Mid-high ranks, Ryu is a bit higher than Ken. Pros, Ken again.
Because ken and akuma still outshine ryu. Although Ryu is like A tier rn, Ken and Akuma are sitting around S tier
Bro, it’s been like that since vanilla streetfighter 2. I don’t know why, but most of humanity has always gravitated toward ken masters.
I think he has moved up, but I don’t think he has made top 5.
Right now at a solid A tier though 😊
Gonna take that stack at 2:34 😅
CMP > SHP > HPS > DI
So sick 😊
16:52 brew yes, i keep getting shoryus when i try to hashogeki xD Dx
10:25 You know someone is an oldschool SF player when they use Ryu's standing LK as a fake fireball.
Maybe I’m just biased and want Ryu to always be S++ Tier, but I still feel like he’s only mid-tier in SF6. Like I said, maybe it’s just me.
Always a good day to see J wong post
12:39 I tried the same thing in a match 1 time and failed as well...😅
Always had DR management issues with Roo.
How does he have the wong nation banner under master?
How did you get that music when you were fighting akuma?
You can set your music selection now. It's kinda hidden in the character select menu
Persona 3 music in the beginning? Take my upvote.
MY BOY RYU!
4:39 It is Funny that in order to avoid a copyright claim on a new game that he does the x men versus street fighter nash theme.
I need more ryu matches
I love your videos of ryu
I really want to play Justin Wong in Street Fighter II HF. I wanna dizzy him with my Spinning Bird Kick😂 love your videos bro!
We want more Elden Ring Content Justin!
Is the game audio for the first match off or is that me
Ryu is brokenly balanced...finally lmao
Majin Ryu is top tier
I always liked Ken’s fighting style over Ryu but with him hitting like a tank is peaking my interest. Ken has prettier combos but Ryu combos just look vicious.
How did that ken not get stunned at 11:30 ?
"Lock" is a state that is triggered to prevent true unblockable situations. The best example of it is when your opponent is in burnout and you try to hit a normal that acts as a true blockstring into Drive Impact for the stun.
The Drive Impact will still make contact, but it will only blow the opponent back into a stagger (like it does when it's blocked) instead of scoring the stun. This happens because the developers wanted to ensure that there was always a gap and an opportunity to escape if Drive Impact is being used.
11:33 why didnt that stun?
He got hit with the impact while still in hitstun, you'll see that it says "lock" on the right. It means you impacted your opponent while they in hitstun. Happens more often in burnout because it adds +4 when hit or block to attaxks
Ryu was already top tier im my heart.
You gotta have good fundamentals to beat seasoned Ryu players. Magnificent stuff J-Dawg 😂
Ryu will always be my main!!!! 😁 WIN, LOSE OR DRAW!!!!
They need to put Rufus in the game 😊
Nah
Honestly the way things have been, I think they could add Jar Jar Binks and they’d make him look cool.
How does one do the mini uppercut, ashamed to admit it but im a master ryu who doesnt know how to do it
Crouching heavy punch?
Great gameplay Justin
He's top tier in every yt video until the big tournaments with the big boys arrive. Then everyone be choosing Ken or Luke :( lol
Now Capcom will review Ryu and re-nerf him on next update after Justin's video...
Ryu is the most fun character in the game IMO, but I think he misses some spice like Ken. I think giving his Tatsumaki being somewhat like Ken's would be cool
I feel like he's more of a top A tier character, instead of top tier.
Justin Blonde!
See you at evo!
oh hair changed
Something about playing Ryu makes you want to cash out your meter and super every combo😂😂😂
My turn!!!! 😂
Why some people want to "fight in custom" after they win ?
turbo colored ryu is my favorite!
Tekken has Kazuya, MK has Scorpion, etc, yet Ryu has never been above mid tier in comparison... Damn
On high MR, he's actually got the lowest aggregate winrate, right?
Or am I reading CatCammy6 wrong?
Justin can you please play killer instinct on snes or original arcade 🥺
Two minutes ago is crazy
woooo jwong clickbait about my main letsgoooo
love the hair fr
Justin you gotta teach me how to play Ryu like you 😭 clean af
Wong Remember This Barcus Would of Stayed..( Best of the Best 2?) Marital arts movie it was Good
Ryu was still really tough last season, well mainly the Ryu players. Most of them play really good neutral.
Sure yoooouuuuuu caaaaaannn 😊top tier Ryu😅
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That close quarters hadoken reminds me of SNK's Ko-ou ken. I am glad finally capcom saw the potential of close range fireball instead of being a joke move with Dan
You're talking about the Hashogeki
It's Hashogeki,not hadoken.
Must've never played this game yet
Ryu has been around Ken long enough. When is this hobo/nomad gonna get some plain clothes??
True top tier tends to come down to "broken characters that abuse the mechanics" discovered over time though, usually in ways the developer didnt anticipate, like roll cancelling in CvS2. Ryu has almost never been a BAD character and usually has pretty good fundamentals.
incorrect
Luke pre-patch disagrees, Luke's buttons are simply strong but none of them are particularly mechanically broken but still a top tier anyways.
@@user-tzzglsstle585e38 Luke was a strong honest character, but audiences do not like strong honest character, they like strong rush down character
@computervision557 C.m was a nightmare pre-patch. I'm glad that's all they really fixed rather than nerf him to the ground. Characters deserve to be viable not dead haha
@@paorasimon4957 Luke become mediocre character in S2, he is not good at defensive play style anymore
In S2 you better play him as a rush down character, a mediaocre one.
You may aruge he is still T0, but the truth is almost every pros drop him, usage rate of Luke drop fron 10%to 4%(roughly), winrate of master rank drop from 51% to 49%
Ryu feels like he's weilding an axe now. Chop chop chop chop chop K.O!
I love ryu and have used him many years but he takes too much damage for what he is should not be taking zangief level damage output
Capcom please make od hadoken into super 1 work more consistently 😭
huh? ive heard hes top tier about 3 times since the game came out
That light blue/Hyper Fighting Ryu color is the way to be!
Makes me happy knowing that I'm not the only one that does fireball and gets DP mid string or try to do hashogeki and get fireball/DP. I thought I was messing up my execution 95% of the time.
You are messing up. Try half circle forward instead of quarter. And always end dp in diagonal.
I feel like Ryu gonna be slept on still because of Ken and akuma
Thank u Justin. As a low Rank Ryu main. I will study this video and practice these setups
He’s still too reliant on DR
I liked every comment!
No one is playing Ryu correctly this season you should be rushing people down.
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Ryu isn't top tier but he's definitely a gatekeeper because if you do one thing wrong and he catches it goodbye hp
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Yes!
Man ryu is amazing this season, i actually think he feels stronger than ken because that denjin buff and solar plexus being +3 is just broken lol
Ken is still better, nobody is taking Ryu to tournaments
@@edgarleon4680 just give it time, hopefully people like bigbird will start using him because he thinks ryu is top 5 right now and he does hit like a tank, hopefully we see some ryu’s in top 16 at EVO this year
I didn't think that guile with ponytail would be more cursed than his absurd flattop.
I rank characters mostly based on how hard the match up is. So to me all shotos are low tier matchups. And the more unpredictable and tricky to have a beat on is highest. Characters like Rashid, Blanka, AKI, JP and more.
10:26 - thats why justin is the goat 😂 fuckin stop that shit
Ryu lacks fast moving forward normals that’s why even he’s buffed multiple times he ain’t gonna be top tier
That “HMMM, HMMM, HMMM” from A.K.I was getting to me, too…was over here saying “STOP LYING ON THE FLOOR!” right along with you 😆
Ryu’s definitely a problem for opps in Season 2.
That stand pose and blocking animation are just stupid. I wish Sim could go back to have a normal stance again.
The answer is no.
Jwong dye his hair blonde to show you who is the real shoto king
Ryu is not top tier because Ken, Akuma and Luke exists
But is really cool to use him against those psycos that only know how to jump
😂😂😂