1932 Oshkosh 4x4 Will It Run And Drive? Or Is This Problem Too Big To Ignore?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In todays episode we pick up a 1932 Oshkosh 4x4 and its an absolute BEAST of a truck BUT there is 1 big problem with it....
#willitrun #willitstart #oldtruck #oshkosh #willitrunanddrive
Your a great dad brother i always wished my dad would spend time with me like yours does with you , really made me smile when he made the suggestion "eanna see if it will run" and the truck is rad too but a dad like yhat is priceless.
Things just aren't made the same anymore. What an epic piece of machinery, can't wait to see more!
they didn't totally figure out planned obsolescence yet
I have a 1959 military Oshkosh wrecker/crane...massive double frame 60,000 pounds...
Dude I absolutely love that thing. Please keep the series going!
@5:25 Wow, That's a good idea!!
...and she lit right up? Holy Moly!! 👍
I'm very happy that You and Your Dad saved this truck. I saw it on FB Marketplace about 12 days ago and considered adding it to My Herd of Nags as it was not far from home in the PNW. But I have too many projects that need finishing. Great job guys!
At 37 minutes, I was looking at the rear axle, and wondering how many turns the driveshaft is before the tire rotates once. Maybe 10 rotations? You need to put some string on the driveshaft, and drive forward until the tires rotate once, and see what it is.
Love the sound of that huge gas engine!
Oshkosh made trucks that last! I wonder if a museum would like to see it fixed up?
Just join your channel Steve from Annapolis Maryland this is so cool what you guys are doing and you got your father helping you it's good to see family working together and everybody getting along everything's positive and looks like a really cool place where you live too
Wow that truck runs real quiet down the hill. We all wish things could last that long today.
From what I know, this is an FB model. Now, this is just what I remember from the air force museum in Dayton, OH. But the FC models were duallies and the FB models had a single rear tire on an oversized hub. But, they were the same truck essentially, just the FC model came later and had some minor upgrades done. I just remember trying to figure it out from the pictures they had up on the display and that was all I could come up with.
😊 would love to see that all cleaned up and refreshed.
The Oshkosh is super cool when I was a kid in the 60s about 12 years old my neighbor had Oshkosh his name was Kenny Krall he had a lot of cool crap have a great day thanks to the video keeps me inspired I can't build cars anymore but I enjoy this thanks
That truck is a real beauty! I would love to be the proud owner of something like that someday.
the scenery where you picked the truck up was beautiful
Very! Its along the border of Washington and Oregon!
From what I can see of it, that engine looks like a 145 Waukesha. The water in oil on the ones I worked on usually came from cylinder sleeves leaking past the wet sleeve o-rings. The ones I worked on drove gas compressors and were surplus engines from WW II tanks.
From what we can tell it is a 145, any suggestions on what we could do about it? Any advice would be appreciated
About the only thing you can do is to rebuild the engine. For a short-term fix, we used Barz Leaks in about double the quantity called for. It would hold for a while, but eventually, it will leak again. To check for that, drain the oil and put some antifreeze in it and let it sit overnight with the drain plug open and a clean bucket under it. See what comes out. From there, drop the oil pan and with antifreeze in it. Look at the base of the cylinders for leaks.
There used to be a Waukesha dealer in Shreveport LA. I don't know of any others.
I would change the oil and filter. Possibly add some stp run it for a while and bring it up to operating temp and see if it seals up.I believe it is a sleeved engine and the o rings might seal.
You are a fortunate man indeed. Super Schweet Truck!
Try driving one of those with a huge rollover plow, plowing huge airfields.
Amazing , i wouldnt have taken that bet !
A little more research in my files reveals that I had looked at your truck during the ATHS convention in 1992. I had heard through the grapevine that an old big Oshkosh was on the WA side of the Columbia River near Portland. We found it in Bingen WA at the Mt. Adams Timber Products yard. Decided it was too big for me and had no idea then, 32 years ago that it would run. It's a BG3 serial number 1029, 1937, originally had a Hercules HXB engine. It was part of serial number run of trucks sold to State of Washington Highway
Department. I had also heard the it had moved at some point to a collector in the Vancouver WA area.
I have a very similar GD36 Oshkosh. I know if one other BG3.
Thats incredible! We found the serial number and you are correct! My dad would like to get in contact with you, if you have instagram you can message me @edward-thaine and we can exchange information. Or we can figure out another way to communicate
That Waukesha engine was built about five miles from my home. Waukesha has always been a leader in the ICE industry and built the official engine in which the "horse power" was established. Still a leader!
thats awesome!
I had a 1939 Oshkosh that looked just like this. Was a town truck, dump box completely junk. Fenders cut like yours are. No hood sides. Mine may have been a touch smaller but not much. 6 cylinder Hercules that ran good after we freed the couple stuck valves. The wood cab structure (Highland cab) needed most of the wood replaced and my brother rebuilt the wood structure. We did have doors on ours. I sold it to a guy in Pa.
Thats awesome! Our cab is a highland cab as well and most of the wood is shot haha we have doors but the wood for them is shot as well. Thanks for sharing and watching!
With time, money, effort, and creativity - you men could turn that big rig into one hell of Tow truck!
Wow that is amazingly impressive
I’d like to see some of those firetrucks you have in the background.
We have a couple videos of the firetrucks. Bringing it home, getting it running and driving it! Theyre super cool trucks with GIANT engines, check out our page. 1958 mack b-21 Firetruck. Thanks for watching!
Freakin' Amazin' fun video to watch! inspirational. Bringing something like that back to life is a good feeling
It's got a "parade" gear! You can haul big floats at walking speed and never exceed an idle! Would be nice to get the service brakes working. Change the oil!
what a find bud!!!!! great job
This thing is amazing! I never thought this old of a truck would run and drive like this. Maybe this truck was outside and water ran inside of the motor somehow, say if someone was working on it and left the hood open for a period of time. Anyhow great video!
Wow, nice Find. That thing must've been badass, the day it left the factory, but hand-cranking a 700 cube motor, even a low-comp one, in cold weather? ...ooof.
nice truck man, looks great
very Jealous of it
Cheers
Jim
Thanks Jim!
RE the two levers in the cab. Could this have had a dump box? The one to the trans could have been hoist, the other release for tailgate??
It definitely deserves to be fully restored, can only be a handful of those left in existence. Not sure if it’s worth keeping the engine or swapping it for Cummins or Cat just simply for reliability. Then maybe a flatbed and a fifth just for goosenecks.
Like a cross between a Scammell Pioneer and an AEC Hardy Monarch4/4 really cool as it has the original factory fitted petrol engine ,a straight six Waukesha, the US equivalent of Henry Meadows. The Grey Battleship,s grand child, complete with boxy narrow cab ,like a Model 'A' Ford, direct acting Westinghouse air brakes means the lorry stops, unlike a similar vintage Leyland Beaver with the awful Clayton Dewandre vacuum servo brakes. Twelve speed 4x3 gearbox, double reduction spiral bevel spur axles, the old Oshkosh built to pull some serious weight.
And that's why the US military loves Oshkosh trucks. Serious hardcore and reliable offroad trucks.
para ser una camion de 1932, esta bien construidos y con muchos adelantos como ser freno de aire Bendix y potenciado por un Viejo Waukesha de 6 cilindros ,Por el estado que esta se ve que tuvo poco trabajo y no hace tanto tiempo tirado basta no mas ver el estado de las mangueras de agua y las correas y la conservación de los neumáticos ;las ruedas no son las originales ,pareceria de un IH de los 80.Me gusta Felicitaciones y nueva vida pata el viejo Oshkoh El motor esta muy bien ni humo de aceite hecha La direccion la reemplazaria por una Ross HYD de camion 5 Ton MS
Don’t ever let someone stand close to cables that are under load like that. The cable or rope can snap and cause a fatal accident.
William Besserdich and Bernhard Mosling use their groundbreaking four-wheel-drive designs as the foundation for the Wisconsin Duplex Auto Company, founded May 1, 1917. They quickly obtain funding to develop and produce their first four-wheel-drive truck prototype, known as Old Betsy.
Oshkosh brings two new trucks to market, the Models FC and FB. These models have six-cylinder gasoline engines with four- to twelve-speed transmissions, allowing drivers to haul capacities up to 44,000 pounds. 1932
Weren‘t one of those fellows associated with FWD in Clintonville before starting this company?
Me screaming at the tv... change the oil!!!! It was probably just rain water
Great on to save!
The water in the oil, may just be sweat from from that big cast iron block.
o man i bet that would push some snow lol but a v blade on an just go to town lol
Bet points are solid.
It's a beast, I love it.
I think the dad said '15 tonne' , but how were these trucks configured? ( goose neck , flat bed trailer on 5th wheel, long fixed bed / wagon and drag? ) thanks
OOHH!! YA,, MY SON MAX 8 YR.S OLD SAYS YOUR BACK I AGREE ,, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ,, GREAT BIG TRUCKS AND CHANNEL... CHECK THE FLUIDS ,,WE WERE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDE OF THE RAD.. WHAT IS THOSE ,, OK ..WOW!!! STARTS GREAT!!! DAD AND HIS MONSTER TRUCK!!!! HA,,..THX. WE MISS THE FIRE ENGINE ,, WE SEE IT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANOTHER VIDEO ON IT???
We are back! Still working on stuff just not as much for RUclips but we have some videos in the works and more of the mack firetrucks! Numbers on the rad look to be service dates but we are unsure. Glad you guys enjoy this truck! See you on the next video and thanks for watching!
@@Edward-Thaine THX. FOR THE UPDATE,, COMING BACK SOON.. MAX LOVES THE BIG OLD TRUCKS ,, NOW TWO FIRE TRUCKS COVERED ,.. PEACE...
It had a dump truck box on it he called the gravel Gertie
The 32s had electric starters.
Oshkosh is still a thing, give them a call 😊
People that don't drain all the 80 year old sludge and contaminated oil before starting a vehicle like this drive me nuts.
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Nice dually, but the rims aren’t my cup of tea.
what a beast 🙂
o my lanta she purrs, thats awesome
Were these trucks made for the lumber company's that harvested the forests of Wisconsin ?
Southern Washington as far as we know, where it might have originated is unclear
Looks like water pump is leaking into crankcase .
Thats so cool
how did it get the name Oshkosh wondering that since the early seventies
The city in which they were made, Oshkosh, WI.
Engine was made in Waukesha, WI.
It's weird seeing an American refer to a "truck" and have it mean a truck and not an oversized flatbed...
Beautiful truck
It would probably be a good idea to partially drain the engine oil to see if water is present underneath. The oil pump will definitely suck up any water and do damage.
Honestly, at this stage I wouldn't worry too much about that milky engine oil atm - change the oil and let the engine get right up to full operating temp and hold it there for an hour or so.
These big old industrial gas engines are notorious for filling the oil with condensation if they do short runs/never get up to full temp - especially if they've run on fuels like propane.
I'm a forklift tech and we get this issue ALL THE TIME!
Your absolutely correct, im a Farmall addict, and about every 3 months each one needs to spend about 45mins on a disk to run the condensation out. You SR. are on point 👍
Maybe rig up a proper PCV system if it hasn't got one already. That will do a lot to remove and keep moisture out of the oil.
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@@samsungtvset3398 that could very well be, on the Farmalls and other older engines its just a vent. And the timing covers usually contributes to most of the condensation. They're very heavy cast iron
I was born and raised an hour and a half from Oshkosh. This beast makes me proud of Wisconsin. It is amazing that thing was in service until 96.
I see this old iron and look at new trucks and we have taken a step back..great video..
I worked on a lot of those Waukeshas in cranes back in the day. They were good engines. I was good friends with the dealer in Philadelphia North American Engines on B Street. I think his son still has a lot of NOS parts. That would be Mark at Jobber's Warehouse in Philly. It really doesn't take much water in the oil to make it milky. I've had them with only a tiny bit of water and the oil looked like cappuccino after running a short time.
All in all that truck looks like a winner, especially considering it's 92 years old
I'm going to say that I am so happy for you all and me being a old mechanic, fabrication, body, paint, and road service mechanic of 40 years as of last August, 20th to see you guys grabbing and saving them from the scrap yard and I wish I was there to help you all because when I got tossed in the trade at 15 I started with Semi truck wheels and in the Western Pennsylvania Farm and Rust Belt country we had tons of those with split rims and widow maker wheels and after a good year and a half of that I was lucky enough to have two guys one was early 40's and the other one was in his mid 50's and the tossed me in to working on stuff like that with nothing but being told to do this and if any questions stop and ask. Luckily I had to of the best people who were able to explain to me what and how to do it and they could watch me as they did their own work. From there it was more and more as it went and as you know it is all history for us now. Thanks for sharing this with me and my family,🧐💯%! For the first 10 years of my work was 70 % big old farm, power plant, coal mines, road work. Reminder of the good old days and the only thing that I don't miss is the farmers and miners using the old Aircraft landing wheels with the 40-44 ply tires and they usually took two of us to change them especially if they got them used at the Pittsburgh, Pa. International Airport and put them on the tractors and other bigger equipment. Say after five or so years if they were used that long as the laws got updated and they were not allowed to run them as much as as they used to but the farmers and miners would run them until they were dry rotted so bad you could see the middle plies of sidewall cords and it would rub holes in the tubes. They would get almost petrified and so stiff we would have to use a bead breaker and then try to run them over with the truck and push with the back hoe to get them off. I hope that you have a great day day today and I hope you are able to get it to be a great mule and local highway runner for short hauls to town maybe 🤔. Would be the center of the world at a location car or truck show with some TLC and a great refresher of all the normal maintenance items as long as you don't have any catastrophic issues with anything. They were built so tough that the shame is if they would have done the simple maintenance and not let it go to pot in a hand basket. Great day and I hope you have a good go of getting it to where you want it to be and I don't believe that you will have a issue doing so as I have been watching you do this for a good while now.
Раньше сталь что ли делали по другому,столько лет,а рама с виду хорошая! Сейчас машины по ходу из фольги делают. Привет из России!!!
Thank you Russia! ❤️From Michigan in the USA!!!!
That thing is sweet! Glad you rescued it
Dang!
Nice one boys.
If you'll take a tip from an old Cat mech who ran desert roadtrains in Aust.
Do remove those ancilliaries, its totally worth it long term, new bearings, new lipped seals, clean up the shafts, especially on the running surfaces, clean out oil feed galleries.
Don't be churlish about taking the head off, its simple as, clean out all lube & coolant galleries, dismount the valves & hand reface the valves & seats. Check for correct oil pressure, its only a pre-determined spring, tension pressing a (bearing) ball against its seat. Cut your own gasket out of copper sheet. The trick with head gaskets is to torque down sequentially 3 times after reassembly. Once, then run up to operating temp, cool right down, like overnight, re-torque, then re-torque for the third time after about 500 miles when everything has settled into its position proper. Its a pain because you have to remove the valve train each time, but it will never trouble you again thereafter.
Needless to say, but clean mating faces if you don't want leaks. It too will be a pain if it involves removing seized in studs, but it can be done with care & forethought without snapping them. Then hand face over grit on a very flat sheet. Cat make a range of liquid gaskets, red is the universal, yellow seals up to 60 thou.
Do pay close attention to shaft end floats, so shim appropriately, & cut your own.
Piston rings are the life of any motor, so clean air, fuel, & oil is essential. Its well worth the trouble. While the head is off, may as well drop the crank & see, be sure to clean out the accumulated carbon in the piston lands. Never put new rings into old bores, either replace same in same, or renew both together.
Ham fisted mechs always upset the float in a carb. its a delicate thing & the fuel level in the bowl determines how the jets are fed. The float level is set by simply bending the tang attaching it to the body. Correct float setting is when the engine runs its nicest with the mixture screw in the middle position +/-.
A lot of folks restore, & they look great, but seldom run beautifully, just like the factory intended.
If you want to convert red rust to black oxide, use vinegar on oil free surfaces. Not the salad kind (6% acidity), the cleaning kind marketed as 2x double strength. Get it from the supermarket. It will knock even heavy scale, if you leave it on long enough. Trick is to keep it from drying out, so put a soaked rag over it, tape plastic sheet over it in the case of panels, great on tools too, wrap in a rag & put it in a plastic bag. In a jar it can be re-used until its a goup. Works a treat & wash off with water when done. To avoid flash rusting prior to paint, wash of with rain water. Looks like you get plenty of that for free.
Don't use soft paint. Use hard epoxy 2 part mix, best place to get it from is ship yard suppliers. You'll want 5 gallons of top coat to do the whole truck, half that in etch primer. Trick is, thin coat of primer, thick coat of colour.
Do everything right, & you'll only ever do it once.
Have fun.
I saw that truck for sale as well, I wanted it so bad but it was too far from me, I'm so glad you got it. I have a 1941 Oshkosh W400 with a 4-71 detroit that runs and drives, heavy and slow but great trucks to play with. I'd love to get a F-Model at some point for my collection. Look behind the right front tire on the frame, around the front spring mount, if its at all similar to mine there should be a frame stamp with a model and serial
Good to know! We'll have to check the frame and see what we find!
content like this channel is what RUclips should be. people doing their thing and sharing it. when things become a production, the ads, the plugs, the sponsors and all the other garbage ruin it. people want that money and pander to the powers that be resulting in censorship that goes far beyond bleeping swear words. good stuff though, very cool old truck.
She is a beauty and deserves a little more TLC. :)
The water can be just condensate and not a leak, I would run Rotella in it even though it's a gasser.
This exact Oshkosh had been sitting at our local museum for years until it disappeared a few months back, I'm glad to see it found a good home.
Which museum was that? We would love to learn some history on this truck!
@@Edward-Thaine It was at the Columbia River Gorge interpretive center, they underwent some staff changes recently, so I'm doubtful they'll know much about it. I'll see if I can dig up any information on the truck, I know some folk who used to work down there.
This thing is awesome and what an absolute UNIT it must have been back then.
What a fantastic truck! Great save, gents. I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing this old girl get some much deserved LOVE. Thanks for sharing...keep up the great videos...and KEEP 'EM COMING!
Totally cool!
We had those in Colorado forever and they were all snowplows!
With big monster blades about 6-7’ tall for the highway. All orange and I couldn’t tell you the years, they all looked the same!
Nice!✊
Why was the oil in the sump milky but nice and clean in the rocker cover?
Thats a good question, maybe due to how long it was sitting? Not sure
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I seen this thing in Washington last weekend and it is definitely Big and bad ass .
It must have been a off road log truck ?
Can you imagine the o shit moments in its hay day that old girl has seen.
I bet that milkshake is simply from years of setting around.
She's cool guys 😎👍
I would throw an engine flush in the crankcase and refill it with old used oil and see what happens. If it comes back okay put some new oil in and go with it. I would expect pretty much everything to leak shortly
Fantastic old truck ! 👍
Just found your site. I dig this truck. You gave a little info on it but what did you pay for it ? Give us an idea of what we should be paying if we run across something similar.
You had me at “sketchy things I do with my dad”.
Grease caps were very common on vehicle water pumps before we had neoprene sealed bearings. I remember working on AEC, Leyland, and Foden double deck buses from the early 1950's that all had them. A very tuff Truck that reminds me of the trucks I have seen in very early photos of the initial earth works at the beginning of the Snowy mountains Hydroelectric and Irrigation scheme built in Australia from 1948 to 1972. An American company was one of the major contractors. It is legend that when a machine had reached its end of life it was parked at what would be the deepest part of the dam excavation site and submerged when it filled because dragging it back out of the remote sites was difficult and cost money. If true I wonder how many machines including trucks similar to this one are in a watery grave.
We've heard similar rumors but no idea if they are true, if true its very interesting to think about!
Nice Truck.
Greetings from Germany Peter
Congratulations, it is a very nice truck.
L-D-O = low direct overdrive . An early version of the later "brownie" that most trucks . The Roadranger trans took over in the 70s 👍
That is exactly what we found from shifting through it, thanks for the input.
@@markmorris2267 Hi, just thought I'd add to my last comment . I should have said underdrive direct overdrive . Also starting in the late 50s a 4 spd aux. (brownie) was available . One version had a deep under , under , dir. , od . The other (called progressive) gave you 4 evenly spaced ratios (1u , 2u , dir , od) . With a 4 spd main box , that's 16 forward spds , 5 main 20 fwd ! That's what I learned on in '65 at 15 y.o. ('56 mack lt w/380 Cummins , 5.23 ratio ) and drove for my 1st 7 years . Take care and have FUN 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Nice
I have a set of very decent grade/quality old military 14x20 tires that’d look awesome on that! Toss in some plexiglass, fab up some doors & GO! That’d look absolutely incredible if u could find/score an early ‘30’s heavy duty wrecker wench/boom setup on chassis back there!
Very cool piece of vintage machinery!! I would have been concerned about the water in the oil...
Thank God this truck was saved!!
I recognize those retreads. They were done at a shop called northwest retreaders in Portland Oregon. I used to work there.
how can you tell? thats awesome if so!
I recognize those two levers by the handbrake, the inner one is for engage/ disengage on the PTO, and the outer one would have controlled whatever the PTO was running, most likely a dump box from when it was a plow truck. The levers themselves are near identical to the ones in my '47 Ford dump truck, so I'm going to hazard a guess that it has a Chelsea PTO.
Great info! Thanks for sharing!
Oshkosh is just brilliant--they're still around, they still make incredibly beefy stuff like this. Proper truck with a pedigree, this thing. LOVE that the diffs are interchangeable.
My ‘54 fwd fire truck has the same engine, and the water pump had the same issue last year. There’s a couple of places I found that had rebuild kits available. Now it holds coolant great
Those look like Timken design double reduction differentials, possibly built by Timken for Oshkosh. Those type third members were common on 5 ton and up class trucks into the 1940's
By the mid 1920's, electric starting was pretty much the standard, that hand crank was for emergencies!!
Carburetor would have originally been updraft, somebody flipped things around to use different carb. Hood latches are identical to my 1927 Hudson super six !!
What a sweet truck !!
Awesome info! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
I think if my job was to hand crank that beast, I would always park it on a hill, pointing downhill!
Modern Cars are dead after 9 years, this truck is 92 and still fit for use.
what a beast 😍
hopefully the water just entered through some opening as it sat and there is no coolant leak 🤞
mostly just condensation. These monsters' motors were mostly cast iron and sweated a lot. If they weren't run long enough to get them up to temp, then run some more, then all that condensation didn't evaporate out.
dud it looks as if it was from the 70s the condition for where it was is spectacular
Looks like I have to stick around to see where this truck goes!
I own a 55 wrecker w218 I think was lucky enough to talk to Clarence Jungwirth he looked up Vin and sent me build sheet
And I thought my '52 Studebaker was old. Good stuff guys!