The saddest and scary part of this is that the same Onic will go back to Indo and do 5 peat in Mpl Indonesia.Dont wanna be that guy but Indo teams have to step up big time,their region is becoming a farmers league
@@248.n_ntook the words out of my mouth. Indo is becoming Malaysia, Malaysia becoming Indo. They need to focus on scrimages internationally now to get hold of the meta. The adaptation of Yeb and Kairi to the levels of indo is hurting them right now.
Indog top 10 META. 1. CRYING META 😭 2. REASON META🤫 3. IMPORT PH META😂 4. SAMSUNG META😛 5. POISON META 😢 6. REDRAFT META 🤪 7. CLOWN in international META 🤡 8. EGGVOSS META 🥚 🥚 🥚 9. Feeling strong META 😂😂 10. BLAME META 🤭🤭
Just keep doubting Karl. Amost everyone is saying Karl only uses Assassin heroes against weaker team. Now that one of the teams that they deemed as "strong" teams or an actual contender, Onic ID, got demolished so bad. And we'll see if they can continue this performance against FCAP or SRG
In the last few days i saw comments of Indonesians bragging that they got 2-1 against srg and they gave a good fight against them unlike ph teams who got sweap. But they're nowhere to be found now😂
@@Yteut01If that's the case then PH teams can do it too right? Onic only won because SRG made mistakes while the match between ApBren and SRG wasn't completely one sided at all you can see ApBren dominating the majority of Game 2 but they blundered that's why SRG made a comeback
@@kikidoulabme4121Actually It's a phrase or term used by MPL PH casters especially Wolf ever since Team Liquid came to Echo and rebranded the team they started calling the express as stampede because Team Liquid is called the "Cavalry" so it makes sense that it fits their name and their game style
@@jerwinjose6182 how can we not blame the coach for making such stupid drafts, even the casters heck even mirko said that they always get out drafted, not all the blame goes to the coaches ofcourse the players of fnoc are declining ALL of them but their draft is their no 1 reason why they suck rn.
Nah this isn't express. This is a slower Liquid Team than their echo days. But more accurate and precise. This is like the rumbling in AoT. Slowly but surely. Slower but you'll sure to get killed. This is the LIQUID RUMBLING ERA.
I agree at least this time they are more careful and don't become overconfident with their engagements but you can still feel the aggressiveness and discipline of Liquid PH as long as they can keep up with the new meta and play consistently they'll be able to win against FCAP or SRG later on I'll also call this as Liquid Stampede, Liquid Rumbling, Liquid Marching and so many more
I dont know why everyone is doubting rhe jungling goat and 2 time world champion "Karltzy". While hyphing up kairi who only had an early hyphe highlights in M5 while Karl has more. And how many times did karl stomped kairi in ph?
@@GenX1692 fr, And people hates Karl for some reason and always doubting him just because his still sticking to damage junglers instead of adjusting to tanky junglers
In the last few days i saw comments of Indonesians bragging that they got 2-1 against srg and they gave a good fight against them unlike ph teams who got sweap. But they're nowhere to be found now😂
Karl haters be like: he can’t use assasin in topdogs team and yet he demolished Onic Haters be like again: Onic is not the their best form and their are declining. What more can say hater? 🤣
Vengeance xp is not good vs roger gold. Vengeance is good vs karrie, harith, and claude - to counter their ultimate. But for roger, it's too easy for him to dash away and disengage and waste the vengeance, same with julian. Maybe flicker terizla would have been better. And for sanz, purify lylia would have been better, he could bait some ult or something, plus it counters sanji valentina. The valentina was the main problem, they had no answer for it, sanz was out leveled pretty fast, and it spiraled from there. Kairi was losing space to farm cuz luoyi cant zone their area.
They keep doubting Karltzy saying he is only playing assassin against weaker teams. The same person that they doubted when he only uses assassin's against Utility when assassin's was already out of meta and when Karl uses Utility he went and won his 2nd world title 😅😅
Let them continue doubting KarlTzy they are just a new generation of people who played Mlbb during pandemic games and they don't know what it means to be called the "You g Prodigy" If they keep doubting him then it's good for KarlTzy that will motivate him more to improve
If no other teams beat Onic in MPLid idk what to say😅..... Other teams should step up.. instead of wanting to end PH era why not starting first to end Onics Dominance n the region😆...its not that other teams were trash ..i think there is something missing.. Higher salary and getting big income in indo seems the problem right now thats why players are very complacent..unlike other region like PH were u need to do everything as long as your in the pro scence since u dont know when it will end..and players aren't getting as much as indo players.. very example were the imports of SRG ... Thats why PH players has always fire in their heart since most of them thinks about their family and their future thats why they need to earn something by playing MLBBB😢😢since majority of ph players arent not that well compensated ...
#onic #mirko , Onic has a low pool of heroes & they must watching replays on how to adapt strategies. Also Kiboy & lutpi are not in good terms in scouting & initiating, in short they are not in chemistry.. Kiboy & Butts must be!
At this point, onic is just cw and kairi. Sanz made a lotta bad decisions, kiboy is just washed up(guess he gotta follow buts), lutpi, i even forgot there was a lutpi, coach yeb keeps getting outdrafted too
Could be. He was a captain as an exp, which means he was leader material. You can find the best macro, and the best micro players but only few are leaders.
No offense. I think ONIC need to change CW. CW is good but not the best. They should get new gold laner with lot of potential. Like geek. They get a very good laner. The gaming Instict is comparable to kelra
Realtalk the big problem of fanatic onic is exp laner so noobs luck of experience so manny commits errors and also kiboys errors i think kiboy has underperform👎 and also sanz no new heroes or new things sanz hero pools is same last msc no supricing i think onic id not belong to this new current meta they slow to adopt👎 i think bcuz of changing players like cw and butts replacing albert and lutpi and lack of practice i think if they stick the line up like m5 i thunk onic they not strungle like this realtalk👍
This the proof that indoteams are far behind in all aspect of the games what happen indo no improvement at all onic dominating in mpl id but they always got destroy in the international tournament its embarrassing
Nah this isn't express. This is a slower Liquid Team than their echo days. But more accurate and precise. This is like the rumbling in AoT. Slowly but surely. Slower but you'll sure to get killed. This is the LIQUID RUMBLING ERA.
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The saddest and scary part of this is that the same Onic will go back to Indo and do 5 peat in Mpl Indonesia.Dont wanna be that guy but Indo teams have to step up big time,their region is becoming a farmers league
Only Onic is competing in international tournaments, other indo teams are trash and they know it
it's alr a farmer's league the moment Onic went on a 4 peat lmao
Onic is now basically what Todak was in Malaysia
@@248.n_ntook the words out of my mouth. Indo is becoming Malaysia, Malaysia becoming Indo. They need to focus on scrimages internationally now to get hold of the meta. The adaptation of Yeb and Kairi to the levels of indo is hurting them right now.
Indog top 10 META.
1. CRYING META 😭
2. REASON META🤫
3. IMPORT PH META😂
4. SAMSUNG META😛
5. POISON META 😢
6. REDRAFT META 🤪
7. CLOWN in international META 🤡
8. EGGVOSS META 🥚 🥚 🥚
9. Feeling strong META 😂😂
10. BLAME META 🤭🤭
Just keep doubting Karl. Amost everyone is saying Karl only uses Assassin heroes against weaker team. Now that one of the teams that they deemed as "strong" teams or an actual contender, Onic ID, got demolished so bad. And we'll see if they can continue this performance against FCAP or SRG
I love him too. Im happy to see him back with assasin gameplay
Onic Id is weakest nowadays.. especially their drafting.
@@bunswaegimelon6896 yes they need a better coach
@@bunswaegimelon6896they should hired MPtheking as their draft coach 😂
Yet Onic keep winning Mpl ID. That shows how bad MPL Indo at adapting to changes.
AP BREN vs Onic
2 - 0
TEAM LIQUID ECHO vs Onic
2 - 0
In the last few days i saw comments of Indonesians bragging that they got 2-1 against srg and they gave a good fight against them unlike ph teams who got sweap. But they're nowhere to be found now😂
Lmao@@Yteut01
@@Yteut01If that's the case then PH teams can do it too right? Onic only won because SRG made mistakes while the match between ApBren and SRG wasn't completely one sided at all you can see ApBren dominating the majority of Game 2 but they blundered that's why SRG made a comeback
it’s liquid stampede now, i think
originally from u? if yes then you should get hired because that's a nice phrase
@@kikidoulabme4121that's what PH casters call it
Liquid flushflood for me
Stampede is more cool because liquid is cavalry/horse@@kelvinweshowek5136
@@kikidoulabme4121Actually It's a phrase or term used by MPL PH casters especially Wolf ever since Team Liquid came to Echo and rebranded the team they started calling the express as stampede because Team Liquid is called the "Cavalry" so it makes sense that it fits their name and their game style
what in the world is coach Yeb & Adi smoking bruh since the MSC every draft they make dont do sense at all, only grabbing lucky wins lol
Player on onic already adapt on meta but not their coaches i guess
Blaming the coach but not the players? Lmao
@@Sanemi010 di you watch always wrong comms
@@jerwinjose6182 how can we not blame the coach for making such stupid drafts, even the casters heck even mirko said that they always get out drafted, not all the blame goes to the coaches ofcourse the players of fnoc are declining ALL of them but their draft is their no 1 reason why they suck rn.
@@oirr7799 tell your players to learn something new, they dont know how to execute the game
Nah this isn't express. This is a slower Liquid Team than their echo days. But more accurate and precise. This is like the rumbling in AoT. Slowly but surely. Slower but you'll sure to get killed. This is the LIQUID RUMBLING ERA.
nah bruh you make me remember mikasa "see you later,eren"😢
I agree at least this time they are more careful and don't become overconfident with their engagements but you can still feel the aggressiveness and discipline of Liquid PH as long as they can keep up with the new meta and play consistently they'll be able to win against FCAP or SRG later on I'll also call this as Liquid Stampede, Liquid Rumbling, Liquid Marching and so many more
Mirko buy and sell jersey is the new meta 😂
Fan favorite best assassin jg gets outclassed by history's assassin jg which majority doubted AINTNOWAY
Kairi is overrated
I dont know why everyone is doubting rhe jungling goat and 2 time world champion "Karltzy". While hyphing up kairi who only had an early hyphe highlights in M5 while Karl has more. And how many times did karl stomped kairi in ph?
Kairi hype only started because he was able to enter M3. If that was Karl, he would've received the same treatment and probably even better.
@@GenX1692 fr, And people hates Karl for some reason and always doubting him just because his still sticking to damage junglers instead of adjusting to tanky junglers
@@Kingmain707 I fully agree.
In the last few days i saw comments of Indonesians bragging that they got 2-1 against srg and they gave a good fight against them unlike ph teams who got sweap. But they're nowhere to be found now😂
Even the camera man wants to surrender to TLPH 😆😆😆
Karl haters be like: he can’t use assasin in topdogs team and yet he demolished Onic
Haters be like again: Onic is not the their best form and their are declining.
What more can say hater? 🤣
Onic started declining w/o even winning mseries yet.
Ye kinda choked.They looked shocked after loss.Hope they can recover.
Do you really know what Choked means?😂😂😂 The proper term is mismatched.
Against FCAP/SRG, chances are iffy.
Expected onic to lose but definitely not in such a hard stomp like this
@@markrivera4021 exactly lol this is not choke.. onic just plays bad for international standard currently...
Choked? dude stop and pls humble your self Since when this match is even a match
It's clearly dominated by echo
"There's no real CC even though Cici is on Onic side" 💀💀 Damn Mirko chill!
Mirko!!!! You wore Onic Jersey, you Mirkursed them in game 1
KarlTzy is the only assasin user but unique playstyle.
Vengeance xp is not good vs roger gold. Vengeance is good vs karrie, harith, and claude - to counter their ultimate. But for roger, it's too easy for him to dash away and disengage and waste the vengeance, same with julian. Maybe flicker terizla would have been better. And for sanz, purify lylia would have been better, he could bait some ult or something, plus it counters sanji valentina. The valentina was the main problem, they had no answer for it, sanz was out leveled pretty fast, and it spiraled from there. Kairi was losing space to farm cuz luoyi cant zone their area.
We only used vengeance to heroes who excels on stand and fight situations.
Thumbail from the screenshots he did in the Livestream 😂
nice thumbnail bro best editor on the planet 👌
They keep doubting Karltzy saying he is only playing assassin against weaker teams. The same person that they doubted when he only uses assassin's against Utility when assassin's was already out of meta and when Karl uses Utility he went and won his 2nd world title 😅😅
Let them continue doubting KarlTzy they are just a new generation of people who played Mlbb during pandemic games and they don't know what it means to be called the "You g Prodigy" If they keep doubting him then it's good for KarlTzy that will motivate him more to improve
Yes karltzy uses assasin on weaker teams. Like onic hahahahaha
@@johncarloreyes8402then why he using assassin against apbren and srg
@@xg3371 coz srg is weak.easy
Looks like Malaysia and PH are the top teams.
Personally, Onic ID is just strong in Indo. Their best form was M5 even with underperforming Butts.
Won't you cast in semis/ finals?
Oh no, Sanz not recalling? Is he okay? 😅
what's up with your usb bro
keep getting unplugged and plugged
at first I thought its from my desktop
If no other teams beat Onic in MPLid idk what to say😅.....
Other teams should step up.. instead of wanting to end PH era why not starting first to end Onics Dominance n the region😆...its not that other teams were trash ..i think there is something missing..
Higher salary and getting big income in indo seems the problem right now thats why players are very complacent..unlike other region like PH were u need to do everything as long as your in the pro scence since u dont know when it will end..and players aren't getting as much as indo players.. very example were the imports of SRG ...
Thats why PH players has always fire in their heart since most of them thinks about their family and their future thats why they need to earn something by playing MLBBB😢😢since majority of ph players arent not that well compensated ...
this shows Karltzy always above in jungler
At this point I can't even think of any solution they can make to fix their teams performances in the International tournaments.
Liquid Express ❌
Liquid Stampede ✔️
you cursed it again man 🤣🤣🤣
Sans recalling against weaker team but against ph team hes silent
Onic is not a scary team anymore, Onic is really struggling on this assassin's centric meta
It's not the meta that they are struggling anymore overall they are just playing at their worse and it sadly makes them look like a A-B Tier now
Did it sound weird when you first said "interesting" ?
don't trigger ph .. 😅
Other regions always doing it after msc. calling era and whatnot that's why they always lose in m series
Bro those 4 players need to take a break and also coach yeb they havent stopped since s10
My question from the release of Julian on the official server, why does everyone keep saying that Julian is an assassin 🤨
Butst damage
He is played like an Assassin. Quick in and out. You won't see him being in the front lines like what Terizla, YZ, XBorg is doing.
yeah moonton should change his role now, his gameplay more to Assassins
Ass/mage
It is skill and heroes gap. Kiboy and Lupti don't know how use tanky heroes like teresla/ edith/ grock/ minutour. Limited hero pool
Lutpi: ❌
Butts: ✅
Under 1 minute gang 👇🏻
ph fans humbled? never! 😂 we will always trash talk whenever we wanted 😂
Taking the words of our adversaries against us. That's how we roll. 😎
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#onic #mirko , Onic has a low pool of heroes & they must watching replays on how to adapt strategies. Also Kiboy & lutpi are not in good terms in scouting & initiating, in short they are not in chemistry.. Kiboy & Butts must be!
No Improvement for Onic.
At this point, onic is just cw and kairi. Sanz made a lotta bad decisions, kiboy is just washed up(guess he gotta follow buts), lutpi, i even forgot there was a lutpi, coach yeb keeps getting outdrafted too
Mirkcurse immediately wear Liquid shirt
Yeah to curse tlph. Too bad it only works in the weakest region mplid
Look at that roam and XP don't know what to do. lol
we need butss back fr fr
for what? hahahahaha. kairi needs to go home now. let bobONiC suffer. in the first place, no improvements in mpl id. 8 years of playing and my god
since butss left they struggle in international stage i think butss its the lucky charm.
butss is the scapegoat . notice how they cant single out onic players now cuz theres no scapegoat left .
Remember M5, and GOTF? Yea
@@Lynx-ns5xf Went from finalists to first-round-exits, pretty sure the latter is much worse
Could be. He was a captain as an exp, which means he was leader material. You can find the best macro, and the best micro players but only few are leaders.
Butts was better. The problem with Butts is ApBren.
No offense. I think ONIC need to change CW. CW is good but not the best. They should get new gold laner with lot of potential. Like geek. They get a very good laner. The gaming Instict is comparable to kelra
Sanz Vs Indo = ☠️☠️☠️
Sanz Vs PH = 🥺🥺🥺
btr betas better than this Fathetic Onic 😅
liquid dreams
Kairi is the only credible. But the rest of his team is nonsense.
Sheesh🔥
Kiboyyyy noooo kiboyyy owwwww hahahahahaha
Haysst talo nanaman tayo par hahaha
karl's assasins tho
Sanford eat lupti in XP
kiboy?? wtf.....
Kboy and.Lutpii nubb
TLPH is not better than sekyss
just wait til tomorrow or the grand finals
Lol
Where are you now??? 🤣🤣 EZ 3-2 🤣🤣 NO LING, NO FANNY NO WIN OVERRATED SEKYSS🤣🤣🤣
"Fnatic onic Philippines"🤭
I even dare say that Fnop might get an M series title before Fnoc 😂 (that is if they can qualify for M series and win it all)
eeyy 🤙
Kairi is overrated 😢😢
E
ugly meta currently..
Indo is easy server
Hahaha kairi cant beat karltzy
Realtalk the big problem of fanatic onic is exp laner so noobs luck of experience so manny commits errors and also kiboys errors i think kiboy has underperform👎 and also sanz no new heroes or new things sanz hero pools is same last msc no supricing i think onic id not belong to this new current meta they slow to adopt👎 i think bcuz of changing players like cw and butts replacing albert and lutpi and lack of practice i think if they stick the line up like m5 i thunk onic they not strungle like this realtalk👍
Use english properly please.
This the proof that indoteams are far behind in all aspect of the games what happen indo no improvement at all onic dominating in mpl id but they always got destroy in the international tournament its embarrassing
At this point I can't even think of any solution they can make to fix their teams performances in the International tournaments.
Nah this isn't express. This is a slower Liquid Team than their echo days. But more accurate and precise. This is like the rumbling in AoT. Slowly but surely. Slower but you'll sure to get killed. This is the LIQUID RUMBLING ERA.
Yea, Liquid's pace was kinda slow that series. Now, Liquid in MPL S13 Grand Finals is the Express.