The Citadel Trilogy || My wife watches The Clone Wars for the FIRST time ||
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- We're watching The Citadel Trilogy arc in the Clone Wars for the first time!
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Severely underrated arc imo. RIP Echo. Now Fives is all that’s left of Domino Squad.
Should change his name to One....yeah il walk myself out the door. 🤣
Yeah it’s still one of my favorites from the show
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The Jedi Master who covered for Ahsoka was Plo Koon, the Jedi who found Ahsoka and brought her to the Jedi.
Plo Koon is basically Ahsoka's Qui-Gon...
12:20: Them giving more attention to the pimp droids than to my boys, Echo and Fives 😔. Breaks the heart
RIP Echo.
@@cardiac19 he’s not dead tho..
@@jordanandino3882 afaik they haven't seen bad batch so you should probably delete spoilers
shame that holden and jen don't seem to care about them much, i still remember being heartbroken about echo
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Tarkin and Anakin’s talk is always interesting to watch
13:50 The gag behind this line: The villain of this arc and Kenobi share the same voice actor.
This personally is one of my favourites in the series. Just seeing Tarkin and Anakin interact is so good, seeing how they share similar views and laying the groundwork of what will become the empire. Plus it showing how Vader knows to freeze Han in carbonite. Lots of cool stuff.
hey i never thought about that! that is super cool!
I think as far as PLO Koon saying “it appears I did” is more him trusting in the will of the force. And seeing as how she did go, then he perhaps assumes that whatever he did say to her ended with that outcome.
Perfectly stated, the jedi were never supposed to be rule followers. They have fundamental principles but not black and white rules
Plo Koon is very much Ahsoka's father figure in the order. Even though Anakin is her master, he is more like a big brother to her as Obi-Wan was to him. Plo was the one who found her and brought her into the order as a baby, and he's kept a close eye on her throughout her training. Seeing him ambiguously cover for her makes a lot more sense with that in mind.
Season 4 is fast approaching and we all get the see the reaction to the Umbra Arc! Widely considered to be the best one for the actual clone troopers. It’s also my favourite altogether
That will be awesome to see
Definitely one of the best arks
The jedi who covered for Ahsoka was Plo Koon, he was the jedi who brought her to the temple so he is basically the Qui Gon equivalent for Ahsoka
You can’t have the Clone Wars exist without episodes following the actual war aspect with the specific battles, missions and campaigns. Arcs like this one bring out the true cost of the war. How anyone can die. Jedi and these brave clone troopers too. Not to mention we meet Tarkin for the first time and see how he puts together the idea for the inner workings of the death Star. Crucial part of the show.
So I get it’s a taste thing but I respectfully disagree with Jen. It wasn’t just them walking around. I also feel it is not left field for Plo to protect Ahsoka. Cuz he was the one who found her as a youngling. He’s like her father. ❤️ I always found that scene between them at the end really sweeet. Not to mention, at this point who cares if she disobeyed Anakin. He frankly teaches her to be a rebel the way he is too. 😆
Cringe war sucks
@@DLites151 then why are you here
@@user-km4lo8zz6z Motivating them to drop proper content (like ATLA). Letting my opinion be known so they know what’s up. 🤓
@@DLites151 oh so instead of letting people who like the show watch something they like you are being selfish and trying to get them to stop showing something just cause you, one person, hates it? ok
btw no you are not letting them know your opinion. stop lying to yourself because if you where this would be a regular comment instead of a reply
@@DLites151 fans like you are exactly the kind of thing that puts me off watching that show, no matter how good i hear it is the fans being so consistently cringe and generally really fucking annoying is off-putting as hell
Iv noticed y'all's dogs always have a "Iv seen shit, you would never believe" face. 🤣
24:37: Scenes like those and that particular music cue always gave me goosebumps when watching this show
29:36 Plo Koon was her uncle, in a sense. Ahsoka literally called him that in S1 of TCW, specifically during the Malevolence story arc. "Uncle Plo" when he first reached out to them, via holo transmission, if I remember right. Either way, just like what your other viewers have said down below here, Plo has always been there for Ahsoka (aka "Little 'Soka" as he often likes to call her--signifying just how close their relationship was) ever since she was a literal toddler. That one narrator flashback scene did in fact show Plo taking Ahsoka away from her home world and into the Jedi Order, after all. He's been with her ever since and she's always looked up to him as a sort of uncle/father figure while Anakin felt more like a brother to her. 2 daddies and one daughter, all throughout TCW show, from a certain point of view. :)
Hey, Holden and Jen!
CITADEL:
This is the third DOMINO SQUAD arc because ARC Troopers Fives and Echo accompany the rescue party. FIVES has the blue semi-circle on his helmet while ECHO has the blue parallel stripes on his helmet and a handprint on his right breastplate.
The introduction of Lannik Master EVEN PIELL who was seen in live-action on the Jedi Council and at the Naboo celebration in "Phantom Menace". I like the gruff Russian accent they gave him.
Anakin's attachment to Ahsoka is demonstrated by his overprotectiveness and his influence on her behavior is demonstrated by her insubordination.
Anakin's carbon-freezing strategy foreshadows his willingness to subject Han and Luke to it in "Empire".
I like how Artoo commands his own squad of reprogrammed battle droids! Lol.
The broken world where the Citadel was built is called LOLA SAYU. The crustless southern hemisphere is dominated by a molten sulfur sea. I like the lore that the fortress was constructed by the Jedi to house wayward adepts.
The Warden Osi Sobeck is a PHINDIAN.
The introduction of WILHUFF TARKIN! Here he is just a Captain but he will be the future Grand Moff, Governor of the Outer Rim and Commander of the Death Star who destroys Alderaan played by legendary Hammer actor PETER CUSHING in "A New Hope"! This arc reveals how the relationship between him and Anakin got started.
C-3PO makes a brief appearance voiced, as always, by Anthony Daniels.
COUNTERATTACK:
Very exciting episode as the survivors dwindle!
The DEATH of ECHO leaves FIVES as the sole survivor of DOMINO SQUAD.
Good Anakin-Tarkin bonding going on in conjunction with Ahsoka-Tarkin irritation.
I like how Tarkin admires the impregnability of the Citadel envisioning all kinds of uses for such a place!
It's gratifying that REX is the one to defend Ahsoka against Tarkin's doubts.
Ahsoka tips her hand about not being briefed when she fails to blow the wall.
I like how the commando droids' shields are permeable to the barrels of their blasters!
I like how Osi Sobeck ignores Dooku's demand for an update to avoid a withering excoriation!
CITADEL RESCUE:
The DEATH of Lannik Master EVEN PIELL!
Artoo's battle droids valiantly defended the rappelling escapees!
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The introduction of ANOOBAS.
The introduction of Admiral COBURN.
I love how Osi Sobeck's left eye twitched under duress. Lol.
FIVES shoots Sobeck from the sky!
Ahsoka murders Osi Sobeck to save Tarkin's life! She's taking her cues from Anakin and Tarkin approves.
It is revealed Tarkin is being groomed by the Chancellor much like Anakin. Palpy knows what he likes.
Their mutual acquaintance and like-minded military philosophy forges a bond between Tarkin and Anakin indicated by the hints of the Imperial March as they clasp hands!
The compartmentalization of intelligence by order of Palpatine troubled Yoda as it did Piell which is why he instructed Ahsoka to reveal her half of the coordinates only to the Jedi Council. The Jedi are leading the war effort yet Palpatine is creating a division between the Generals and the lay military.
Kel Dor Master Plo Koon covering for Ahsoka's insubordination proves once again why he's the coolest Jedi Master!
The lack of a dedicated video for Domino's backstory confused the hell out of me
Echos death always gets me
This is the arc where I was like WOW, this is a TV show on Cartoon Network!! It looks fantastic!!🔥🔥
One of the great arcs of the season! Tarkin, Echo’s death, and the action really make this arc memorable for me.
I think you guys may be the only ones who dislike the snips thing. People at SW celebration went nuts to hear her voice actress call Hayden Skyguy, anfd for him to call her snips.
I didn't like it going into the show. Having finished it, I am okay with it but it should stay in the past.
No, ppl hated the whole sky guy and snips thing when it was airing. That’s why they stopped using it all the time. Ppl only like it now bc of nostalgia. I vividly remember there being a bunch of ppl complaining about it
@@jaradsage8546 Maybe some (vocal) people hated it. I didn't. I thought it was sweet, even way back in season 1. I can also honestly say I never hated Ahsoka, either, but I was certainly not as vocal as those who did.
28:26 Don‘t worry, Holden. Tarkin has in every animated star wars-series his appearances here and there …
Fun fact the reason the planet is purple and yellow is because a lot of the crew were LA Lakers fans and they won the NBA championship during production. And the tactical droid's name is K2-B4, referring to Kobe Bryant & his number, 24.
Also, seasons 1-5 are the 22 episode seasons because that's when Disney bought LF and cancelled the show. Season 6 is what was almost finished for the planned seasons 6-7 (and when I got turned on to the show and went through what you're going through now) so it's shorter. Season 7 is a recent addition with 2 arcs to wrap up [REDACTED]'s story and one to act as a pilot for Bad Batch.
I can’t believe no one has talked about K2-B4, aka the Kobe Bryant tactical droid. While I’m not a fan of the lakers, Kobe always had my respect and deserves the shout out.
Yep, that's Murphy's Law. But have you heard of Cole's law? It's a combination of cabbage and red lettuce that makes a good side for BBQ food.
When I first watched the show all the way through, I remember there being some adult moments throughout that I very much appreciated. But this arc was the first one where I remember my jaw hit the floor because I just said "What age was this show intended for?" It literally felt like I was watching an episode of 24 (great show) with how graphic it was.
Even deeper into nerd time! While Holden is correct about the faster you go, the more massive you become, IIRC hyperspace is a different dimension/layer of realspace that doesn't conform to normal physics, so no worries about getting squished
I think they’re more based of Egyptian jackals, because they’re called Anubas, which sounds like Anubis, the Jackal Headed Egyptian God.
I love how they gave the jedi a funeral but when echo and longshot died they just looked at them and left, they didn't even take a moment to remember them. Not even ahsoka.
19:11 From the Whills. The magical space people who are telling the story of "Star Wars".
I'm loving that you're starting to release these again
Man I can't wait for you to watch the finale to Clone Wars. I can't wait to see yalls reactions to it!
Love the channel and y’all man! Been watching for so long, always look forward to watching the vids and now y’all watching my fav show, doesn’t get better ❤🙌
While I think that there are one or two action sequences that are pure filler and I wanted to see more of Echo and Fives, this is one of my favourite arcs in the series. The banter is just great, seeing how Anakin and Tarkin met and howAhsoka proves herself once more are great touches. Also, this is a great example of how the misions on the clone wars look like. Brave clones die with the jedi esencially being cold with them (cut in half, falling to their deaths, electrecuted, shot in the face, blown up, eaten alive...), captains like Tarkin or Sobeck feel that there's a need for more violence and inmoral methodes, and the death of another great jedi in the climax
This one I vividly remember scaring me as a kid, the lava pit and dark tone stuck with me all these years.
I always loved the arc cause it reminded me of Star Wars The Force Unleashed and its missions on Raxus Prime.
Plo Koon is one of the chillest Jedi and he's like what Qui-Gon was for Anakin.
A great pilot and a really cool jedi overall. But think he covered for Ahsoka because she sneaking into the mission ended up being the right call and if Anakin nor Obi-Wan would admit it, Plo certainly will.
Also... Domino Squad, I know you guys don't care as much, but we've seen Echo and Fives go so far to just end up like this, this is pretty much the end of them, now the only one left of the squad, who is in the 501st is Fives, he's alone and that's pretty sad, but he is also a damn good soldier.
One of my favorite arcs probably, very underrated I think.
Makes me sad that they didn't acknowledge the fact that Echo died. Hope they notice the recurring Clones more in the episodes to come.
yep and they've watched the domino squad arc which makes their lack of reaction kinda sad 😔
my thoughts exactly
13:47 I loved it when they break the fourth wall
Believe it or not, "Dobby," Master Even Piell was actually in The Phantom Menace in 1999. So he predates Dobby in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets movie in 2002. Sure, the Chamber of Secrets book came out in 1998, but I really doubt that George Lucas based him on that, especially since TPM was already written and maybe even filmed by then.
I know you were impatient for Clone Wars to get more dark, adult, intriguing, etc., but it's actually REALLY good for the overall story that it started out somewhat childish. That's what any real war in history is like - the first several months each side think it's going to be over soon, but then nasty battles happen, the death toll rises, and they realize they're in it for the long haul. Childhood, naivete, and innocence are destroyed. This arc is Ahsoka's first living kill - the wolf/wharg-like creature, and then it's her first sentient kill, the warden. All of her previous kills up to this point have been droids. Despite how young she is, (and she's roughly 15-16 at this point) she's not a kid anymore. I mean, she was immature "asking mom not dad" at the beginning, but by the end of the arc, I'd say she learned her lesson. Anakin really wasn't being overprotective. This was a far riskier, dangerous, and high-stakes mission than anything they had done before.
As for Plo Koon, I would say he's like an indulgent father to her, while Anakin is a protective older brother and Obi-Wan is like an uncle. I think they all knew that Ahsoka wasn't supposed to be there, but decided to just let it go since she rose to the occasion. This isn't nearly as bad as the fact that really everyone knows about Anakin and Padme but is just deliberately turning a blind eye. Don't ask, don't tell.
If you guys didn't notice the color scheme of the enemy tactical droid 11:55 matches the Lakers color scheme and the name of the droid is K2-B4 Kobe Bryant Jersey 24. Also the production of the episode The Citadel was when the lakers won the nba championship.
Regarding Jen's Hyperspace question at 19:40, the expanded universe imagined hyperspace as a separate dimension, with its own laws of physics, and even some unique species "native" to it. People aren't crushed by their mass because of a piece of equipment aboard all ships which nullifies the speed's affect on the body (also why the pilots don't experience the G-forces of the maneuvers they pull in combat, allowing Han Solo to sit all cool and stoic during a fight).
What's really interesting is that Jedi couldn't meditate for long while traveling in hyperspace, or they would go insane for some reason. The force doesn't seem to work the same in hyperspace.
This arc is the basis for the theory that Tarkin knew who Vader really was during the OT.
PLO koon has a special bond with Ashoka as plo was the one who “recruited” her to the Jedi.
Master Plo Koon (the guy with the rebreather and eye coverings) was the Jedi that first brought Ahsoka into the Jedi order.
They do indeed have a kinda surrogate father thing.
on Plo Koon's gunship it has a painting of him and two clones with "Plos bros" written on it
One thing to mention. I am almost sure the there is no travel above loght speed. So I would guess that hyperspace travel is atravel through a different dimension in which the distances between point A and B ist different then in normal space
Wow droids adapting Gungan shield design
Ah, Tarkin... That man will destroy two planets in two different ways, using the same weapon
5:24 I think Force users can use the Force to augment their physical abilities.
These hyperspace routes are the ones Grevious used to surprise attack Coruscant and “kidnap” the chancellor
When Anakin says that the Citadel was place for “Jedi who have lost their way”, the supplementary material goes into further (darker) detail on that. As it reveals that the Citadel is where the Jedi send their more “problematic” members, not just those that fallen to the Dark Side but also those that do anything the Council deems “taboo” (such as visions of the future). So in short, the Citadel is essentially the Jedi equivalent of a “pray away the gay” camp.
At light speed your mass doesn't change thats more of a physical interpretation, there is a factor (a number) in the expresion of the energy required to reach certain velocity that does tend to infinity as your velocity aproaches the speed of light (the mass thing comes from combining the mass with the factor creating a sort of special mass, a relativistic mass if you will). So it is the energy what goes to infinity not the mass, hence you wouldn't feel crushed. What is intersting though is that going at constant velocity is the same as bieng in rest (static), you wouldn't feel any difference between standing still and going at the speed of light (though you'll feel the g-forces when accelerating). Also you might see wierd things due to space contraction.
Hyperspace works the same way nether traveling does in Minecraft. You enter an alternate plane of existence and can travel immense distances in a fraction of the time.
“Adaptation is the key to survival”- Disney when making any live action remake
If you guys didn’t watch the Domino Squad/Arc Trooper Arc you really should because you get to learn about the important clone troopers that has a big effect in the future
Wait a second!
I call shenanigans!
Which came first the Doby or the Yoda?
How can he be Doby when Doby is clearly Yoda!
Shenanigans!
Always loved how that alien had the Al Pacino vibes
Master Plo Koon was admiring that he technically suggested something that gave Ahsoka the idea that she should go along. Even though it was not what he meant, it wasn't a lie. It was the truth from a certain point of view. The truth is not so cut and dry, especially when it comes to Jedi. They probably didn't mind as much because they see it as the will of the force. Which is more of a fluid path to follow that rules don't always allow you to follow. If Ahsoka wasn't there would they have the information they needed? We will never know.
Hyperspace is a different dimension. So that's the idea of why they're not crushed and how they go faster than light.
0:25 Pretty sure those couple of ambiguous things were kept that way on purpose, my guy. Having watched every single BTS featurette for every single episode and arc of TCW really has opened my eyes, doubly so, in the making of the show and the overall lore explanations for it. It really has further expanded by knowledge and insight into this masterpiece of Star Wars storytelling and it should for ya'll too! Check out the featurettes they did on every single episode, including the most recent "Clone Wars Download" featurette series for the final season, whether on your own time or on the channel or a bit of both!! It's really nice to hear from Dave, George and so many others on what every episode of TCW means to the overall saga and having them explain various ideas, choices, lore and more. The Mortis trilogy specifically was meant to offer some questions to the viewer, not necessarily answers. Dave Filoni himself has notably stated he doesn't ever want to hold the hands of any viewer, he doesn't want everything to be explained to them, everything to be spelled out. Much like how Lucas himself felt about a lot of the work he did for Star Wars and even TCW, alongside Filoni, as well. But Dave also mentioned that if he were at our homes, he would certainly love to spell things out, spill all the beans, but he can't possibly do that for all Star Wars fans out there, so this is the best he can do here and it's for the best anyways. Always great to have some mystery and maintain much of the mysticality that Star Wars is so widely beloved and appreciated for! :)
Holden probably already know this, Jen is actually interested in playing star wars games, she would probably like the force unleashed games and their dlcs
Jedi Evan Peels looks like a mix of Dobby and Mad Eye Moody. It haunts me to this day lmao.
The episode where they encounter the Zygerian slave traders is really good
Well, Asogian's (E.T. Species) was in the Prequels. Then E.T. was stranded on Earth in E.T., so that puts Earth in the Star Wars Universe.
Love this arc
The biggest thing I remember about this arc was the clone trooper getting cut in half by the closing blast doors. That’s when I knew this series was going to start getting darker.
The Force Unleashed remastered was on sale recently. A perfect first game and first game level to play as Darth Vader fully powered up👍
You can see Doby in the background a lot in "Phantom Menace" lol.
Star Wars is told from a Future Retrospective. Let's say Star Wars is 25,000 years in the future, but is being recounted by someone 40,000 years in the future!
WOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU GUYS!!!
Tarkin appears in the Clone Wars.
Holden: Wait, is that...???
Jen:.......who?
5:04 It never went away, you just thought it did. I don't necessarily like Anakin being called Skyguy but I have no issue with Anakin calling Ahsoka Snips. You Americans need to lighten up. Nicknames are great. I personally have about 4 different ones.
petition for a fallen order lets play with jen and holden.
We always called him Russian Space Dobby, so it was cool to hear you also call him Dobby. c:
And their back!
i wish ATLA was coming out this fast lol
Towards the end of the show, (I'd say season 6 and 7) every single episode is good
Honestly one of my top 5 favorite arks in the entire show, I don’t even know why it’s just so awesome.
Also are you guys going to watch cobra Kai at any point? Because you really should
Back to Snips after she said she hates being called that lol
I'm digging your hat, Jen.
26:01: Fives! 👏
Anakin reminds me of Revan
19:18: Look at Cody! Badass right there. I’d love to be a clone
If Christopher Walken were an alien warlord...
Did you guys actually watch the domino squad arc? Cause I cant find it anywhere but it's one of the shows most important arcs character wise
Rlly love this arc
I’m not a giant fan of this arc, but I can’t deny it’s super fun. I found Tarkin to be pretty annoying. By the way, the Jedi who lied about Ahsoka is Plo Koon, who found Ahsoka as a baby.
Try the Tarkin novel or better yet the audiobook. It changed my perspective on Tarkin.
Yeah, I agree. It makes fun watching it. But in the greater sceam of things, it doesn‘t really have a pay-off.
In retrospective, it‘s a bit build-up for season 7 and „The Bad Batch“-show. But nothing really significant is happening …
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Yes thank you so much for recognizing that the one guy is sooo similar to the bad guy from power rangers turbo. I was going to leave a comment about it but you’re too cultured!
how does everyone miss the villain voice patterns are imitating Christopher Walken
Can't wait for more Rebels.
They are Space Hyenas from Space Australia.🤫
I know it's your thing to watch fantasy movies. But I'd recommend you watch Rush (2013) by Ron Howard, based on the real-life events of the 1976 Formula 1 World Championship. It will be a definite switch from the fantasy stuff, and the tracks by Hans Zimmer will for sure hook you in.
There's a really good Yoda arc I believe in season 6.
20:53 No, Tarkin has no point. Tarkin is an intellectual infant and a sadist. He seems to think that by committing more atrocities than the other guy is how you win a war. It’s pretty conclusively the opposite. I mean are there any War Crimes left for the CIS to commit?
Oh boy I love this arc
This one and the first arc of season 4 are sort of background episodes. The next arc is a little more economical with story and has a big technical advancement that makes generating backgrounds a lot easier. Expect more, "radial flora."
As for Plo Koon's comment at the end. It seemed to me that he was somewhat convinced by her argument for self-determination; especially since the ultimate Jedi power move is self-sacrifice.
Also don't get too hyped about the beginning of season 4...it's kind of a slow roll at first until it isn't.
I'm having trouble with getting notifications on the new Clone Wars video or it still hasn't been uploaded yet?
Plo koon is the Jedi that found Ashoka and brought her to the Jedi, she sees him as a father figure
Every episode of season 4 is in correct order
Omg y’all should play the Star Wars game for the Oculus. The darth Vader one!