History & Playoffs At Stake! (Packers vs. Vikings 2012, Week 17)

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  • Check out the 2012 Week 17 game highlights between the Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings!
    0:14 Q1
    3:37 Q2
    14:29 Q3
    17:54 Q4
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  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 года назад +284

    Look at the 2012 Vikings roster besides Adrian Peterson, then you’ll appreciate just how great he had to be in his prime to get that into the playoffs.

    • @MNSportsJunkie101
      @MNSportsJunkie101 2 года назад +37

      Defensively the Vikings still had Jared Allen, Antoine Winfield, Chad Greenway, Everson Griffen and a rookie Harrison Smith but offensively your point stands. Percy Harvin was on the roster but he was done almost halfway through the year.

    • @kalibakingJesustha1
      @kalibakingJesustha1 2 года назад

      Fr

    • @FungiRy91
      @FungiRy91 2 года назад +1

      They got in because the Packers lost on purpose to keep Chicago out of the playoffs as they were way better than the Vikings hence why the Packers annihilated them WC week

    • @andrewlarson7
      @andrewlarson7 2 года назад +2

      Right! I guess you could argue their special teams was really good considering Walsh was the best kicker in the league as a rookie, and they had 2 of the best returners in Harvin and Sherels. But besides them AD carried this team on his back!

    • @jamtop1105
      @jamtop1105 2 года назад +4

      @@FungiRy91 I mean, the Packers swept the Bears that year vs splitting with the Vikings, so I really wouldn't say the Bears were better...

  • @sports3117
    @sports3117 2 года назад +188

    AD won the MVP that season after tearing his ACL the previous year. It was just like he never left the game watching him bounce back

    • @arod927-01
      @arod927-01 2 года назад +4

      He never should have won.

    • @kamyriengillies1781
      @kamyriengillies1781 2 года назад +9

      @@arod927-01 Adrian Peterson bettet than Aaron Jones

    • @NWI_Steel
      @NWI_Steel 2 года назад

      He was incredible that year. Let alone after an acl recovery

    • @yengvang8737
      @yengvang8737 2 года назад +2

      AP*

    • @joshuacole3120
      @joshuacole3120 2 года назад +2

      Yeng Vang it’s AD for all day 🔥 everyone called him that

  • @theamateurobserver
    @theamateurobserver 2 года назад +34

    Jeez this has got to be the first NFL throwback game that I actually remember watching live. I was rooting for AP so hard

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 2 года назад +24

    Can’t believe how crazy that game was in 2012 , that was a helluva game in Minnesota between these two ball clubs

  • @humbleastheycomefuckingwit8352
    @humbleastheycomefuckingwit8352 2 года назад +115

    R.I.P John Madden..... One Of The Top Win Percentages In The History Of Football.... Averaged 10 Wins A Year In Mostly 14 Game Seasons,If Not Mistaken His Raiders Went To 4,5 Straight A.F.C Title Games. 76 Raiders One Of My Favorite Teams Of All-time, Wish Madden Still Had History Teams. Christmas Day Special On Him Was Great.....As If They Knew Something With The Timing.
    Thanks 4 The Memories And Football Game J.M....Sad You Can't Watch Your 9 TV Wall For Football Anymore
    R.I.P J.M

    • @AK.CC1
      @AK.CC1 2 года назад +5

      He died, didn’t he just have a documentary, RIP to a football legend 🙏

    • @JamesGrinstead
      @JamesGrinstead 2 года назад +2

      @@AK.CC1 yes, his documentary aired on Christmas Day 3 days before his death.

    • @blusnuby2
      @blusnuby2 2 года назад +1

      Oh, rest assured, JM`s still watching---just 'from better seats' !

    • @Saints-ji3vj
      @Saints-ji3vj 2 года назад

      R.I.P to the Goat John Madden. He got a football game name after him. If that doesn't cement his legacy alongside of his accomplishments i don't know what will. "I've seen a lot of games, and i got a feeling this one is going to be special" R.I.P John Madden

    • @tyreepowell8367
      @tyreepowell8367 2 года назад +1

      @@Saints-ji3vj I already miss mr madden, happy new year to you.

  • @slmosqueda
    @slmosqueda 2 года назад +4

    Honestly, these last few years up to 2015 honestly were the last years that felt like football. The hits, less penalties and rules. Everything in this game is a night and day difference compared to today's game

    • @ht82smash42
      @ht82smash42 2 года назад

      This season has been hitting different with a lot of close games though

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 2 года назад +36

    Truly Rest In Peace to a helluva NFL legend , 🕊🕊🕊🕊 John Madden , what a man he was for the NFL , and just the game of football as a whole 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @rich4446
    @rich4446 2 года назад +6

    Still can’t believe he finished 9 yards short. AP deserved to break that record

  • @mattmaltese8375
    @mattmaltese8375 2 года назад +57

    As a Bears fan, this game ANGERED me. The one time I need the Packers to win, they lose LOL

    • @willjeffrey2285
      @willjeffrey2285 2 года назад +3

      And then eliminated the Vikings less than a week later

    • @tevinsherrill5653
      @tevinsherrill5653 2 года назад +10

      Same, but the Bears did no favors by losing 5 of their final 6 games....

    • @mattmaltese8375
      @mattmaltese8375 2 года назад +1

      @@tevinsherrill5653 5 of their final 8 games *** either way, 10-6 should have been good enough to get in the playoffs smh

    • @PrinceTron1
      @PrinceTron1 2 года назад +1

      Well, our Bears should have taken care of our own business and beat the Vikings up there when we had the chance. Then we wouldn't have needed the Packers help. It also didn't help that the Bears got swept by the Packers in 2012. That's the real reason why Lovie Smith got fired even after going 10-6. The Bears started at 7-1 in 2012. Lovie's first few years with the Bears he did beat Green Bay. But after the Bears got Jay Cutler, the Bears under Lovie and Jay were like 1-10 or 12 against the Packers.

    • @thecrown_jul
      @thecrown_jul 2 года назад +2

      @@mattmaltese8375 Yeah that sucks. Another thing is Pats went 11-5 and still somehow missed the playoffs in 2008

  • @joshprice7527
    @joshprice7527 2 года назад +7

    Ponder looked so good this game lmao

  • @sonofmiriam
    @sonofmiriam 2 года назад +101

    How close was AP breaking the record?
    He was 9 yards short. Had he score he would have taken the record

    • @JoshuaZ.64
      @JoshuaZ.64 2 года назад +16

      "he just ran out of time"

  • @Jack-cv7pl
    @Jack-cv7pl 2 года назад +12

    Rip John madden

  • @brisreiter1396
    @brisreiter1396 2 года назад +10

    This was actually a great game that everyone seems to forget.

  • @iangoodisDMX
    @iangoodisDMX 2 года назад +17

    Can't believe how good this game was! Its nuts. Thanks for this!!

  • @hassansaleh4649
    @hassansaleh4649 2 года назад +26

    Packers fan, even though we lost this game I still remember watching it as a 10 year old. My first season watching football and to this day I haven’t seen any RB as good as 2012 Adrian Peterson. Pretty sure we beat the Vikings a week later in the playoffs before the Kaepernick game.

    • @Beranin
      @Beranin 2 года назад +7

      yeah, joe webb started. Ponder actually had a decent year.

    • @FungiRy91
      @FungiRy91 2 года назад +1

      Packers lost on purpose to keep chicago out of the playoffs. If Packers would have won they'd have played Chicago in the WC and the 2012 Bears were way better than the Vikings. Thats why GB annihilated Minnesota in the playoffs. Also Henry last year was as good at 2012 AP only had less receptions and 5 more Touchdowns.

    • @balnc907
      @balnc907 2 года назад +1

      @@FungiRy91 why would we intentionally lose if we can get first round bye with win you loser
      2012 Bears sucked as well

    • @adonismioi3225
      @adonismioi3225 2 года назад

      @@Beranin qqq+qq

    • @hassansaleh4649
      @hassansaleh4649 2 года назад +8

      @@FungiRy91 don’t think this is accurate because it costed us a bye week

  • @jasonl3686
    @jasonl3686 Год назад +3

    Blair Walsh was a machine in his first couple of seasons

    • @dhollins
      @dhollins Год назад +3

      He never mentally recovered after missing vs Seattle

    • @DerrickRG91
      @DerrickRG91 Год назад

      ​@@dhollinsHe was showing cracks that whole year.

    • @jasonl3686
      @jasonl3686 Год назад

      @@dhollins I was at that game unfortunately

  • @AT3toxic
    @AT3toxic 2 года назад +17

    Rest in peace to John Madden 🕊️

  • @trippingkanga134
    @trippingkanga134 2 года назад +5

    I loved this season so much seeing Adrian Peterson run in his prime is so fun god I loved this team I wish he broke the record tbh

  • @orekingcatan8142
    @orekingcatan8142 2 года назад +2

    he was just soooo EXPLOSIVE. GOATed

  • @yukikimura8204
    @yukikimura8204 2 года назад +12

    Looking back now, I wished he had scored on that last run or Walsh missed that kick to go to OT for the chance for AP to break the record. I think most Viking fans would have wished AP had broken the record instead of their result in the playoffs that year.

  • @codysmomhj
    @codysmomhj 2 года назад +9

    Can we get a rip for mr madden 😔

  • @zachthrone7474
    @zachthrone7474 2 года назад +7

    I remember kids (fellow Vikings fans) at school said they’d rather have AP break the record than the Vikes make the playoffs! They had me heated😂😂

    • @abreathoffreshsports
      @abreathoffreshsports 2 года назад +3

      Vikings would have still won-had Frazier gave AP the damn ball more

    • @zachthrone7474
      @zachthrone7474 2 года назад

      @@abreathoffreshsports you’re saying we shouldn’t have trusted Christian “the GOAT” Ponder?

  • @kalibakingJesustha1
    @kalibakingJesustha1 2 года назад +4

    This was a really good game

  • @5000jetadam
    @5000jetadam 2 года назад +3

    Not going to lie, every time when I see those Vikings jerseys with the number 28, I get nightmares.

  • @heatvike
    @heatvike Год назад +2

    “here’s Peterson…… Adrian Peterson down inside the 15 yard line” chills great call by buck

  • @humbleastheycomefuckingwit8352
    @humbleastheycomefuckingwit8352 2 года назад +9

    And 2 Think Peterson Still Plays Now. That Nearly Almost 300yd Game Against Chargers In 2007,2008 Was Something.....I Believe He Barely Had 50+yds At Half

    • @garyparkinson6198
      @garyparkinson6198 Год назад +1

      That horsecollar tackle stopped a potential 350+ yard game

  • @KingDizzleLTDinc.
    @KingDizzleLTDinc. 2 года назад +3

    10:33 Greg Jennings with the juke

  • @vanteal
    @vanteal 5 месяцев назад

    Peterson was such a joy to watch play in his prime, even in his rookie year you knew he was going to be something special.

  • @SunDedGon
    @SunDedGon 2 года назад +2

    Peterson almost literally carried Ponder into the playoffs just so he could be "inactive" going into Green Bay the next week. Webb was thrown to the wolves while Ponder kept up on that sore shoulder with some icy hot...

    • @abreathoffreshsports
      @abreathoffreshsports 2 года назад +2

      I blame Leslie Frazier for not giving AP the ball more in this game

    • @SunDedGon
      @SunDedGon 2 года назад +1

      @@abreathoffreshsports Agreed. Green Bay game planned for AP as if it were Normandy & STILL steamrolled em. Him and the front five could've taken Omaha Beach at will

    • @FriendsofTaz
      @FriendsofTaz 6 месяцев назад +1

      You obviously didn't see the pictures of Ponder's arm and shoulder. Brett Favre could not have played with that injury. Fool

  • @Savoonnn
    @Savoonnn 2 года назад +4

    When AD made that cut back, I was like Oh shìt he might get it!!! Still sad he didn’t 😪

  • @malcolmriley8493
    @malcolmriley8493 2 года назад +1

    It's 2021 and it doesn't even feel like this was that long ago and that's interesting because Perterson burst and speed was something ferocious !

  • @-Always_Right-
    @-Always_Right- 2 года назад +5

    These games remind me how much Rodgers used to get mauled by defenses over the years

  • @KenFan4life
    @KenFan4life 2 года назад +1

    Battle between the 2011 & 2012 MVPs.

  • @howardcraigiv518
    @howardcraigiv518 2 года назад +2

    AP does not get enough credit now days to how good he really was. The man was and still is a beast. I think when he got in trouble for correcting his child with a belt and it coming to light in the media is was hurt AP.

  • @Boldnorthmn
    @Boldnorthmn 2 года назад +1

    I was at this game as a 14 year old. The biggest thing I remember was the noise. The fans knew we needed to win that game and it seemed like everyone in purple was doing whatever they could to make as much noise as possible when the pack had the ball. Making a megaphone with the game program, clapping with big mittens, finger whistles, it was really everyone. I had no voice for a few days but it was worth it…

  • @pac5209
    @pac5209 2 года назад +1

    that ref sequence in the late third was so weird

  • @MegaMadDog88
    @MegaMadDog88 2 года назад +2

    I felt like if Minnesota REALLY wanted to give Peterson the record, they could've. However, I understand they were more conservative with him down in the later stages of game to try to insure a playoff berth.

  • @rustyshackleford1114
    @rustyshackleford1114 2 года назад +11

    God Bless John Madden.

  • @baracksays9401
    @baracksays9401 2 года назад +5

    The last great game at the Metrodome.

  • @mjf2891
    @mjf2891 2 года назад +1

    16:55 Mike McCarthy summed up

  • @masteryang7243
    @masteryang7243 2 года назад +3

    I’m a die hard Packers fan! AP was mine favorite all time RB!!!

    • @DerrickRG91
      @DerrickRG91 Год назад

      Die hard Vikings fan.....Favre was my favorite QB though lol.

  • @amoses11
    @amoses11 4 месяца назад

    John Madden used to call AP a “VIOLENT RUNNER” because the numbers on the front of his jersey would have the markings of the defender’s helmets on them from trying to tackle him.

  • @ArtieRaizeOfficial
    @ArtieRaizeOfficial 24 дня назад

    Can we all appreciate Jarad Allen for a quick second

  • @isaiahmarquezcoach9419
    @isaiahmarquezcoach9419 2 года назад +2

    rest in peace john madden

  • @jerwur39l94
    @jerwur39l94 Месяц назад

    Ponder had the game of his life😂😂

  • @Fireyninjadog
    @Fireyninjadog 2 года назад +3

    The next week, green bay answered

  • @redt7452
    @redt7452 2 года назад +2

    the Vikings DBs outside of Harrison smith were so bad

  • @siddakid4777
    @siddakid4777 2 года назад +3

    Pin this, R.I.P. John Madden🙏

  • @XtotheK
    @XtotheK 2 года назад

    Such a classic game. Not a fan of either team but watching such a close game with so many implications occurring throughout was truly memorable. I also think that this is one of the more noteworthy games in defense of Joe Buck's commentary style. His simplicity in calling AP's efforts to break the record in whilst simultaneously needing a win at all costs to make the playoffs was well suited, I think.

  • @Peezster
    @Peezster 2 года назад +2

    I remember the interview after the game. Pederson was shocked when he found out he was just 9 yards short. He thought he'd broke it.

  • @jefferyrobertson7520
    @jefferyrobertson7520 2 года назад +2

    Green Bay Packers Against Minnesota Vikings NFC Central Division Rivalry ☺🏈Thanks For Uploading

  • @KingxJiji30
    @KingxJiji30 2 года назад +1

    #50 at 10:54 is the definition of never playing another game after. Man coverage defense and he let go by 😂

  • @abreathoffreshsports
    @abreathoffreshsports 2 года назад +3

    Leslie Frazier clearly didn’t want AP to break his record- AP was getting chunk yards against that Packers run defense- completely criminal-he had Ponder throwing the damn ball on more than enough occasions with 1st and 10 instead of handing the ball off to AP-I bet AP will never love it down

    • @FriendsofTaz
      @FriendsofTaz 6 месяцев назад

      He was coaching for his job, which is to take the team to the playoffs, not get records

  • @ianzang2178
    @ianzang2178 Год назад

    Back when football was fun and the guys played like it meant something. I’m only 19 and this feels like forever ago

  • @jvarga2
    @jvarga2 2 года назад +1

    anyone else secretly wishes walsh misses that so AP can have a chance to break the record in OT??

  • @natethegreat2408
    @natethegreat2408 2 года назад +2

    It doesn't matter what the records of these two teams are because every single game is great and could easily go either way.

  • @juangringo3906
    @juangringo3906 Год назад +1

    They said Crosby was a "shakey" kicker back then. Lol

  • @stevewarren4813
    @stevewarren4813 2 месяца назад

    Always great when the Vikings break the Packer's hearts.

  • @Jman417
    @Jman417 2 года назад +1

    Fire Zimmer and we will go back to playing football like this. I miss Adrian Peterson. He was a great runner

  • @AhJeezEnt
    @AhJeezEnt 2 года назад +4

    Probably Christian Ponders best game as a pro, at least his most meaningful

    • @DerrickRG91
      @DerrickRG91 Год назад +3

      The 49ers game that same year was probably his best, but the stakes in this game probably tops it.

  • @eddiem2981
    @eddiem2981 2 года назад +2

    As the Patriots play the Jaguars you guys should do the 2017-18 AFC championship game

  • @angelenriqu1
    @angelenriqu1 2 года назад +4

    I’ve always felt that the 2012 Vikings were one of those teams that only managed to get into the playoffs due to other much better teams squandering their seasons.
    You had the defending Super Bowl champion Giants, who suffered from a common SB hangover. The Saints had the Bountygate scandal catch up to them, and I think Sean Payton’s suspension affected them psychologically. The Bears were on a roll at the beginning of the year, but then suffered from a late season slump, and the Vikings were able to take that final playoff spot due to having a better division record than Chicago.

    • @trentholio
      @trentholio 2 года назад +4

      I wouldn't say any of those teams were better than the Vikings in 2012. Defensively, Minnesota stepped up from their abysmal 2011 season. Especially at the end of the year when they went on a 4 game win streak. They got hot at the right time, while the Bears and Giants struggled down the stretch. They also beat the eventual nfc champion 49ers earlier in the year too. So, no the Vikings weren't great that year, but you gotta give them some credit.

  • @eugenesatele9434
    @eugenesatele9434 2 года назад +10

    Wow, AD playing well and the Packers getting their buts kicked, and the biggest loser out of this, was Chicago.

    • @jamtop1105
      @jamtop1105 2 года назад +5

      They only lost by a FG...

  • @HaydenSkol
    @HaydenSkol 2 года назад +1

    AP MVP 2012 let’s go all day

  • @jimmybones5960
    @jimmybones5960 2 года назад +1

    Prime ap was a beast 💯🔥

  • @NickTasy
    @NickTasy 10 месяцев назад

    Even now, 11 years later, it still bugs me they didn't just let him run one or two more times to get the record, then win the game in OT. He was that close. I remember his record-breaking season that year had the whole country just like invested into him. It was great. We all wanted him to break that record. I'm a Jets fan and I was rooting for it. Still pisses me off they didn't let him run one or two more times lol

  • @yyxy.oncesaid
    @yyxy.oncesaid 2 года назад

    Thanx mate from Napier, New Zealand

  • @yazspaz7989
    @yazspaz7989 2 года назад +3

    7:06 no one ever talks about this play, similar to a 15 yard Hail Mary

  • @nicnames8396
    @nicnames8396 2 года назад +2

    Hi NFLThrowback, how you doing? 😊

    • @NFLVault
      @NFLVault  2 года назад +1

      Doing good having some wine 🍷

  • @CasusCantare
    @CasusCantare 4 месяца назад +1

    Imagine he misses the kick and we get OT with AP

    • @matthewspallina226
      @matthewspallina226 2 месяца назад

      I remember watching it in real time and thought that Blair Walsh missed the FG

  • @owenselijah
    @owenselijah 2 года назад +1

    11 year old me was at this game! Was amazing!

  • @Terror832
    @Terror832 2 года назад +6

    I’m no Vikings fan but these jerseys are million times better than today

  • @ht82smash42
    @ht82smash42 2 года назад +22

    All this for Green Bay to blow out Minnesota a week later

  • @JonJonGTA
    @JonJonGTA 2 года назад +2

    Sucks that he never broke the record and he was so close. Packers fan here

  • @TheSloppyjoejr
    @TheSloppyjoejr 2 года назад +1

    Going to the game on Sunday!!!

  • @alexkrug8307
    @alexkrug8307 Год назад

    I remember watching this in my basement not really knowing much about football holy shit felt like every play was give the ball to Petersen lol he was nasty

  • @mrchance105
    @mrchance105 2 года назад +1

    I miss having a motivated team, one that’s begging to go to the playoffs

  • @blusnuby2
    @blusnuby2 2 года назад

    Fine game. Too many commercials.

  • @JohnSmith-tk7nt
    @JohnSmith-tk7nt 29 дней назад

    22:53 Aaron Rodgers is magical with a football

  • @goatedfigure
    @goatedfigure Год назад +1

    the 2012 vikings heavely relied on adrain peterson

  • @zainbando99
    @zainbando99 2 года назад +1

    This game kept the Bears out of the playoffs and got Lovie Smith fired, even though he went 10-6 that year. They would’ve played Green Bay in Lambeau the following week had the Packers won.

    • @johntheapostle4181
      @johntheapostle4181 2 года назад +2

      No Green Bay would've been the 2 seed had they won. Chicago would have to go to San Francisco in the WC

    • @zainbando99
      @zainbando99 2 года назад +1

      @@johntheapostle4181 Thanks for clarifying. That is correct

  • @finchborat
    @finchborat 2 года назад

    I hope the next video on this channel is something related to John Madden.
    RIP John Madden

  • @wadeoden8464
    @wadeoden8464 2 года назад

    incredible to see how much better the CHRISTIAN PONDER led 2012 Vikings were compared to the current version with a supposedly top tier QB in Cousins who is the opposite of clutch and will never win a super bowl (hell, maybe a play off game). and i have no misconceptions about how average Ponder was. I remember him throwing an interception when trying to throw one away.

    • @DerrickRG91
      @DerrickRG91 Год назад

      What? Lol

    • @wadeoden8464
      @wadeoden8464 Год назад

      @@DerrickRG91 one of those teams had an ok defense. neither had a top tier quarterback. 2012 vikes would whup 2022's team. How many playoff wins does Cousins have for us? Oh yeah, 0.

  • @wyattladner7464
    @wyattladner7464 2 года назад

    Greg Jennings put the team on his back doe

  • @LoganMagel
    @LoganMagel 11 месяцев назад

    GREG Jennings was a dawg oml

  • @abreathoffreshsports
    @abreathoffreshsports 2 года назад +1

    AP got screwed. There were times they didn’t even give it to AP on 1st and 10-he could have broke the record easily.

  • @donaldverhota7503
    @donaldverhota7503 4 месяца назад

    After watching this game back then I felt this was game ponder was turning the corner but boy was I wrong

  • @DreTooDope
    @DreTooDope 2 года назад

    @10:32 omfg greg stop it 😬🌪🔥

  • @randyrandy1599
    @randyrandy1599 2 года назад

    AD banger season and amazing video

  • @EmanJr28
    @EmanJr28 2 дня назад

    I was at this game!!

  • @anthonyadamo5614
    @anthonyadamo5614 Год назад

    Joe Webb had to start vs the packers the next week

  • @GreyMarano
    @GreyMarano 4 месяца назад +1

    Is it me or did Ponder not look that bad? 😅😅

  • @thomascrowley9122
    @thomascrowley9122 2 года назад +1

    AP carried this team to the playoffs

  • @willjeffrey2285
    @willjeffrey2285 2 года назад +1

    The packers then beat the Vikings in the playoffs in a blowout 6 days later

    • @DerrickRG91
      @DerrickRG91 Год назад +1

      Only packer fans remember that.

  • @user-se8sp7gs4t
    @user-se8sp7gs4t 2 года назад

    R.I.P to John Madden

  • @gabbyjim8943
    @gabbyjim8943 2 года назад +1

    This is exactly why Rodgers doesn’t have more Rings! His defenses have been terrible for the majority of his career!

  • @austyncohrs863
    @austyncohrs863 2 года назад

    Banger

  • @wolfcastlewolfcastle5863
    @wolfcastlewolfcastle5863 2 года назад +1

    It was a crime!!!...they didn't call a cple more plays at the end for A.P!
    He Would of got the record!!

  • @supergame5006
    @supergame5006 2 года назад

    Nfl throwback can you make a video about John Madden’s greatest calls.

  • @devyn46
    @devyn46 2 года назад +1

    Big Mike with the mistakes as usual