Great review. Just ordered myself one of these with the solar panel as well. Charging was very quick with the solar panels (for my camping). Great product had the same issues with the DC cut off especially when I connected smaller portable power packs to charge. Big issue I had was charging the phone on the wireless charger but this fantastic review cleared that up for me, shame about the design flaw. By any chance have you found away around this because other than that I am very happy with the product.
According to the manual the 12 Car socket is both an input and an output. Considering this you could add extra 12V battery packs with some control circuitry to charge and discharge as needed. Good use for all those 18650 cells that somehow get accumulated.
Hiya, i found this review very helpful, Ive iust bought one of these to use with my laptop which uses 150w. Hwowever. I plan on using a dc step up invertor, so i was hoping youd be able to tell us the amperage out of both the DC outputs, what can the cigarette port put out in terms of amperage ? Thanks
Thank you for the detailed review. Just ordered one off of Amazon. I'm wondering if those empty 18650 slots could be populated for some ~10Wh capacity?
There are 3 thingss I would check: 1. If BMS can support it or be reconfigured to support it. 2. If the battery charging circuit can support or be reconfigured for the added pack voltage. 3. If the dc-dc converter circuits can support or be reconfigured the added pack voltage These things might be under firmware control to which you don't have access so it may not be possible to do it.
I have one and after two months it want power on I was changing it and I plugged it to the side on the right and changed is on the left.it stop power on.how can I get it fix
If you powered the AC circuit on from the dedicated button and it doesn't work, something could be damaged. Have you overloaded that output? Could be reason for warranty replacement.
LiIon cells are considerably more efficient than LiFePO4 cells (power in/ power out). The 2 main reasons LiFePO4 has become so popular is because of a certain asian country being unable to obtain adequate rare-earth metals and the significantly more intricate construction plants needed. And the idiot-proof thermals that iron offers over the more efficient option. But to say that LiFePO4 is the better chemistry is a huge stretch. Its a stop-gap chemistry to aid building infrastructure in a country that is still in its infancy for tech engineering.
Li-ion are indeed more efficient but what LiFePO4 stands off in is stability, they are more chemically stable and aren't as dangerous if something goes wrong, also I think life cycle is longer
In a product like a portable power station shown here number of cycles and safety are top criteria and so you can easily imagine why I would say LiFePO4 is a better chemistry for this application. Capacity matters too, but when you have a lot of it anyway you tend to look at the other two factors. This is what I meant in the video.
@@voltlog Portable applications are exactly where LiIon is best. Lithium Iron cells have up to 1/3rd the power density of LiIon cells this means they are up to 3x as heavy, bulky, and inefficient as LiIon. I have a few multi-KWH LiIon packs I have been running for up to 7 years now with no overheated cells (ever). The largest pack now has over 13,000 full 100% cycles of the pack. This would be 18,570 cycles at 70% DOD. All this with less than 4% degradation in pack capacity after 7 years. The iron cells can't even come close to that. I have 2 other packs that are portable and I use them year round from -30F(-34C) up to 105F by properly designing them with active heating and passive cooling. At the coldest temps the heating uses far less current than iron cells lose due to inefficient cells losing up to 4X the amount of power which they were charged with as pure lithium ion does. So No, I cannot see why an intelligent person who kinda knows the field would possibly make such a statement.
@@voltlog The applications where Fe (Iron) cells can make sense is in stationary applications like a home power wall where the same capacity of iron cells is less than half as expensive as the superior Lithium Ion cells. It can also be used in ballast situations like on a heavy Tractor-Trailer or heavy equipment like excavators and bulldozers. However, to my knowledge, they are all using Ion cells so far, at least the American & European companies.
What can you use max 300W for? Not a water heater, not a coffee machine, not for power tools, not a vacuum, not a microwave. That leaves TV, laptop and lamps. I understand you earn a commission for talking about this device and for the links, so you have to talk nice about it, as it's income for you. You really should reveal that in the interest of honesty.
Guitar amps, speakers, laptop chargers, slow cookers etc. 300w is plenty for what most people use these packs for. But yes, for anything bigger, I'll need to buy a much larger unit.
Most people won't be using such a power station or a microwave for example. It's more meant to be used for mobile stuff, for camping. I have been using such stations when filming outdoors where no power is present, so I can easily charge my drone remotes, and batteries, power a laptop, and a 60W light that I use when I need a bit more light when filming outside.
I have allpowers S300 and is a very good powerstation!
Wow !! What a break down . Greetings from Kenilworth , N.J .
Great review. Just ordered myself one of these with the solar panel as well. Charging was very quick with the solar panels (for my camping). Great product had the same issues with the DC cut off especially when I connected smaller portable power packs to charge. Big issue I had was charging the phone on the wireless charger but this fantastic review cleared that up for me, shame about the design flaw. By any chance have you found away around this because other than that I am very happy with the product.
According to the manual the 12 Car socket is both an input and an output. Considering this you could add extra 12V battery packs with some control circuitry to charge and discharge as needed. Good use for all those 18650 cells that somehow get accumulated.
Very nice review video.😘
Thank you!
Hiya, i found this review very helpful,
Ive iust bought one of these to use with my laptop which uses 150w.
Hwowever. I plan on using a dc step up invertor, so i was hoping youd be able to tell us the amperage out of both the DC outputs, what can the cigarette port put out in terms of amperage ?
Thanks
Thank you for the detailed review. Just ordered one off of Amazon. I'm wondering if those empty 18650 slots could be populated for some ~10Wh capacity?
There are 3 thingss I would check:
1. If BMS can support it or be reconfigured to support it.
2. If the battery charging circuit can support or be reconfigured for the added pack voltage.
3. If the dc-dc converter circuits can support or be reconfigured the added pack voltage
These things might be under firmware control to which you don't have access so it may not be possible to do it.
Do you think it's possible to add 4 cells to those empty spaces?
I have one and after two months it want power on I was changing it and I plugged it to the side on the right and changed is on the left.it stop power on.how can I get it fix
The AC on my S300 doesn't work 0w output, any ideas? Everything else works
If you powered the AC circuit on from the dedicated button and it doesn't work, something could be damaged. Have you overloaded that output? Could be reason for warranty replacement.
These things have INSANE self discharge. Won't hold a charge for more than 8 - 10 weeks.
LiIon cells are considerably more efficient than LiFePO4 cells (power in/ power out). The 2 main reasons LiFePO4 has become so popular is because of a certain asian country being unable to obtain adequate rare-earth metals and the significantly more intricate construction plants needed. And the idiot-proof thermals that iron offers over the more efficient option. But to say that LiFePO4 is the better chemistry is a huge stretch. Its a stop-gap chemistry to aid building infrastructure in a country that is still in its infancy for tech engineering.
Li-ion are indeed more efficient but what LiFePO4 stands off in is stability, they are more chemically stable and aren't as dangerous if something goes wrong, also I think life cycle is longer
In a product like a portable power station shown here number of cycles and safety are top criteria and so you can easily imagine why I would say LiFePO4 is a better chemistry for this application.
Capacity matters too, but when you have a lot of it anyway you tend to look at the other two factors. This is what I meant in the video.
@@voltlog Portable applications are exactly where LiIon is best. Lithium Iron cells have up to 1/3rd the power density of LiIon cells this means they are up to 3x as heavy, bulky, and inefficient as LiIon.
I have a few multi-KWH LiIon packs I have been running for up to 7 years now with no overheated cells (ever). The largest pack now has over 13,000 full 100% cycles of the pack. This would be 18,570 cycles at 70% DOD. All this with less than 4% degradation in pack capacity after 7 years. The iron cells can't even come close to that.
I have 2 other packs that are portable and I use them year round from -30F(-34C) up to 105F by properly designing them with active heating and passive cooling. At the coldest temps the heating uses far less current than iron cells lose due to inefficient cells losing up to 4X the amount of power which they were charged with as pure lithium ion does.
So No, I cannot see why an intelligent person who kinda knows the field would possibly make such a statement.
@@voltlog The applications where Fe (Iron) cells can make sense is in stationary applications like a home power wall where the same capacity of iron cells is less than half as expensive as the superior Lithium Ion cells.
It can also be used in ballast situations like on a heavy Tractor-Trailer or heavy equipment like excavators and bulldozers. However, to my knowledge, they are all using Ion cells so far, at least the American & European companies.
What can you use max 300W for? Not a water heater, not a coffee machine, not for power tools, not a vacuum, not a microwave. That leaves TV, laptop and lamps.
I understand you earn a commission for talking about this device and for the links, so you have to talk nice about it, as it's income for you.
You really should reveal that in the interest of honesty.
Guitar amps, speakers, laptop chargers, slow cookers etc. 300w is plenty for what most people use these packs for. But yes, for anything bigger, I'll need to buy a much larger unit.
Also, as a busker this is so small and light, an eb3a would be difficult to carry with all my gear
Most people won't be using such a power station or a microwave for example. It's more meant to be used for mobile stuff, for camping. I have been using such stations when filming outdoors where no power is present, so I can easily charge my drone remotes, and batteries, power a laptop, and a 60W light that I use when I need a bit more light when filming outside.