UPDATE 16th Apr 2021 : I'm OT7 & some people failed to read this pinned comment. If I see again some random ppl completely blaming Jin or Tae with the intention of creating frictions among ARMY, I will completely delete your comment. It's very obvious you are not ARMY and solo stan are not welcome here. You can state a case & explain your reasons but dropping some BS one liner will not be tolerated anymore. UPDATE 21st Aug 2019 : Hi guys, thank you for watching & commenting. I noticed some troubling comments lately. As I do believe everybody have their own opinion, I didn't say anything at first. But it seems some fans are using this video either against Tae or Jin. Which is not the point of this video. The main point is how BTS took an argument, solve it & turn it into something beautiful. It's not about anybody fault. For me, this situation came about because they are stressed. Jin tends to be dismissive (making jokes) during serious moments & Tae tends to push on & be blunt. It's ironic bcoz both wanted the best performances. And Jin wasn't in a good mood even before Tae said anything. Tae on the other hand was probably very hype up. So when the response was not align with their mood, miscommunication happened. This is not their first fight, nor it is the biggest (Namjoon & Yoongi are known to have big fights b4 debut, so does Jimin & Tae), nor their only fights (we can see their dynamic changes each time there's trouble in the team). They fought & bicker many times. So why BTS is still BTS? Because of what I'm trying to show here. How BTS handles their fights. Explanation / Elaboration, Acknowledgement, Acceptance & Resolutions. **** Hi guys, the original videos had to be deleted as it was blocked by BigHit. So I had to re-edit some parts, tho it might not be as good as the original. There are many who comments on the previous vid, so I apologize that you can't see your comments anymore. Just know that I've read & appreciated them all, even when we have different opinions. Hopefully there would be no problem for this version. Thank you !
In Korea,Being old gives u a lot of authority,,,but Jin never uses it...he never seems to be real hyung...thats why i like Jin a lot...he is best..he always acts like maknae....i love him a lot...💜💜💜💜
I feel the same.. That's why he is my bias.. Jin is the eldest but I have never seen any video that he use his hyung authority to control or ordering the members.. Instead he always the one who create the fun atmosphere.. He allows the youngers to bully him and make laugh at him.. He always sacrifice his handsome face and do silly movements to make the rest laugh...
I noticed this too...in many groups being hyung especially the eldest seems to make them far from the group cause they're at the top but jin isn't like that,,, he's so chill with the boys even they knew it and they did say jin is just like their close friend at times and a good hyung at the appropriate time...
I just hope others understand that Jin always take all criticism about his dance positively but sometimes it can be overbearing. it's not too much to ask to not always pin point what he did wrong or what should he do.
baldiesarelife 🤔 I can just say that I would stand by ot7 always, because I really don't know what hurt you in my comment. and I love both tae and Jin otherwise I would not even be on a taejin video.
RNJSHTJJ bts I was agreeing with your comment...I said that everyone becomes an expert when it comes jin because they critisize him the moment he breathes 😅 For example I found many to say that he was struggling in the latest album with his lines and he should have less for his "own safety" which I find as smth hypocrite...
Everybody noticed Tae's tear in this fight but our inexpressive little hamster he was crying more inside . And everyone failed to notice that . Seeing the pain in Jin's eyes I started crying.
Yes , I feel like hes the one who felt hurt the most even if he didnt cry and still he apologized first 🥺. But its ok now i guess, they learn and grow and this help them to understand each other more💜
JUNGKOOK IS BUNNY How do you know Jin was not mad/upset? I am sure he was but probably tried to hide how he felt which does not mean he is not mad/upset. I had a feeling he was.
jin really does his best and sadly (at this point) the members has not even realize it yet to the point he had to explain and defend himself. I know they do NOW but watching old content, i realize that when they are rewatching their music videos/live performance they only comment on two things 1. his looks 2. him being offbeat or too slow at dancing. (watch their self reaction to danger and live 21centgirls/bst) I think the main reason why it seemed like he was not taking it seriously is that he is hurt and is trying to brush it off. I think out of everyone in bts, jin is definitely the strongest in terms of perseverance and pure hard work. Im not korean but I am from an asian country so i understand how age is important and looking at how all his juniors managed to overtake him so easily must have hurt regardless of how kind ones personality is. And what made me so impressed and like jin so much is that he does not have a single OUNCE of resentment at all. Anyway he literally built himself up from scratch. Bighit was not giving him a chance to really shine ( dont get me started at the time they had jin dress as a banana/objects while everyone else had actual roles) which was why I believe he adopted this persona in order to bring attention to himself. - Bts themselves has said that jin has really been shy. I think jin has been keeping this bottled up which is why i am so impressed that he still manages to keep his cool and even apologize first. Anyways stream TONIGHT, AWAKE, EPIPHANY peace
I think this is too deep of analysist based off very carefuly picked footage...But even saying what you said all all truth....all members had some issues within the group, and they can only be worked on if the person with the issue opens up.If we jsut pick V, for whom a lot have the idea of having it easy...we can also make the case for he was not treated well: He clearly had a rough start within the group...most members acknowledged of either not understanding him(Rm ad JIn) or outright not really liking(Suga) him at the beginning. He was labled a "dumb pretty boy" "an alien" "the weird one" AND he got the most attention at the start - which might seem a like a good thing, btu I doubt it truly is when you are a kid with Tae s personality. Once it got better, he basicaly started losing family one by one and getting more and more closed up. He is clearly trying to work on his education and manners, as a reponse to all the names he got at the beginning...and BTS did not help at the start with all the jabs at his intelligence. And I am not saing this to in any way dicredit BTS as amazing people, I am just trying to make people see that it is NORMAL. When you put a group of people together, it will take literal yeaars until they understand where are the lines, what hurts, what helps and so on, a lot of mistakes will be made along the way and eve after...what counts is that BTS always tried, always had good intentions and lears from their mistakes.
@@Kunoichi4ever4 im literally just pointing out jin's experience. we can go one by one about the struggles each member had cuz they all have aspects where they overcame hard situations and we can definitely praise that as well. But I don't really see the point in your comment. Every member experienced difficult situations and they definitely grew as individuals, yes, but I was just using this time to talk about jin specifically and I don't think there is anything wrong with that? Not sure what you are trying to tell me really.
I think this really shows not only how good Jin and Tae's relationship is, but also the rest of Bangtan. You can clearly see that they have a close relationship, and Tae wants them to succeed. So does Jin. At the end of the fight, you could see that they accepted that they just wanted what was best for each other. And the rest of BTS helped, especially Namjoon and Jimin. They all work so well together, and anyone can see how close they are and how much they care for each other. They truly are a family.
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
oh i know which scene you are talking about. Tae didnt mean it that way at all. he explained after he shouted that he shouted because he was proud of jin. But i get what you mean. when i watch like bts reaction to their performance they sometimes criticize his dancing mistakes on LIVE which i thought was uncalled for,,, they could have talked to him after their Live ended. They also pointed at him when an interviewer asked who usually has dancing mistakes. I think because he tries to vibe and be friendly to the maknae they sometimes forget that he is the oldest one and even being the oldest ones has a lot of pressure too...
Sometimes I feel sad too about this, jin himself say that he doesn't have charisma that's why when his brothers make a fun of him and that's to much, he really want to telling them to stop but he can't just telling them because he scared he may hurt them, and they get fight. Even we knew that he is the one who get hurt, but still he can't do anything about that. In taejin fight, he might not cry like how tae cry but we can see that his body are shaking, he try his best not to cry and show us the weakness of him. He hold his tear but trust me he must be hurt so much, because we all know how struggling jin with his dancing skills, so if someone who is really close to him and know how hard he practice every single day just to be like the other members say something like that ,it's must be hurt him so much. Watching this video always make me want to tell him that he is doing the best.
Yeah agreed I think he didn't realize it at first because the choreo is that he walks, and I think that's the start of the conflict + the stress, so sad tho but at the end of the day they both admitted their mistakes, so much love for Taejin, this conflict just proved they really love each other. #Taejin
Actually he did & that's why he raised the matter up. But I think all of that got lost in translation. As far as I know BTS will talk a bit about their performances before each show. At that time, the members were discussing about parts of their choreo & that might be the reason Jin got upset at first. They might be talking about their dance & Jin got frustrated & then Tae decided to raise another issue. So everything went downhill after that.
@Aratrika Ray It could be because he already had raised the issue before and was ignored, which made him frustrated. As we see, a lot of parts were cut and we don't know what really happened behind the scenes, so please don't make assumptions. None of us know what happened off camera so please don't be so quick to paint Tae has the villain. He can make mistakes, he's only human. Anyway, just be glad it's over and stop bringing it up again. This happened what, 3 years ago? Let it go...
Kittae they might know each other than anything but why do you think that fight started anyway you think jin apologized just cause he realized it no. That’s how the fight started anyway and beside Jin was always insecure and if your a fan you just know tae should’ve talked it out in Another way ik he was frustrated but he should’ve at least thought about how Jin would feel. Jin being older he apologized first
I've only seen other videos of the fight, but I never saw the fancams of what happened before. Now I see both sides. I totally understand the way Jin took the pointers, just cause he's always critized for his dancing, and Tae moved further, so he was trying the best he could. While Tae thinks he's trying to help someone he admires so much and is getting frustrated that he isn't being heard. I'm glad that in the end, they took the part where they found about the choreography and made it their own.
@7_idiots_ruined_me aka BTS At that times, he didn't know he was wrong, how could he accept the mistake ? lol As the problem is now settled, he must have later.
@7_idiots_ruined_me aka BTS I think you are a Tae hater, and anyone who have a slightest hate for a any of these 7 babies, is not a true army. Why I'm saying this because I've seen your other comments too. Listen, both V and Jin were confused about their performance. They were both tired as hell. And sometimes not every conversations work perfectly, specially when you are tired. They both made mistakes and they solved it out amazingly. They are family and family always fights.
I'm literally crying. Jin let's everybody make fun of him, because he is the "oldest" and shouldnt get hurt. But nobody understands that he is actually hurt. It breaks my hurt.
Jin is the best hyung 💜just because he is the oldest doesnt mean he is okay with everything he can get hurt too.he said that his pride is hurt but still apologize to v first..so kind of him and jin said he tried his best taehyung 😭'im use to get depressed but im just trying to stay positive for you guys' that was heavy 😭both are right from their own sides of view anyway here's a big thumps up and a big heart for the best hyung jin 👍💜💜💜💜💜💜
My opinion As a dancer its difficult to know what to do especially when you cant see the other members Neither are in the wrong Tae accidentally walked too far because he couldn't see the gap Because he was turned around And Jin just didn't do anything wrong what so ever So it triggers me when army make such a big deal out of this argument, even when they resolved it in the end. Stop picking sides of your biases when there's literally no need to
squishy yoongles exactly thank you. Do army’s not realise that it is normal and healthy to fight. Bts have been with each other for now 7 years and are like family. So of course they have fought.
@@Veronika-vy5ou omg exactly people can't tell me they haven't fought with their best friend at least once. They've known each other since 2010. They're going to fight. It's unhealthy if they don't tbh. And they're such good friends that they solve it straight away everyone's just made a massive deal out of this
squishy yoongles exactly as long as they resolve it. I have fought with my sister millions of time but we always love each other. It’s the same with bts
most mature comment i've read in this comment section. No need for fault-finding. I think the point of this analysis is that we saw how the members fight and how they resolve and reconcile with each other. which is completely normal within friends, within family.
It's not a big deal... It happens in family...and sometime these fights make their bond stronger... But seeing Jin controlling his tears just broke my heart... Elder one can't express their feeling .. I can feel that pain😭 but the way they solved the issue and made that a beautiful cute choreo melts my heart... So, this is our BTS 💜💜💜💜
I understand that V just wanted to correct Jin so that they'll have a perfect performance and I also understand Jin's side cause he is doing his best on his dancing and to be on track. V, not realizing his own mistake and talking in that kind of tone and expression might have hurt Jin's feelings and ego because he is older. Although he is not using his authority and always jokes around, I personally think that his dongsaengs should not forget that he is their hyung. The stress and pressure might had affected their feelings and judgment. But kudos to Jin for apologizing first for it was the right thing to do at that moment.
i know its been over years ago but can i share my thought on it... i think in some way tae did realize his mistake that's why he tried to bring up the matter even if the concert will start in next couple hours. idk if in some way tae didnt manage to convey it correctly (cause there is a lot of cut being done we really can't be sure about it), but i think in this momment there is a part of tae that ask jin for help... like what happen before there will be a time when tae messed up the choreo and at that momment he want jin to cover him and be on his back cause if you realize tae choreo is kind of complicated and he need to move fast and change movement from A to D in a seccond. but then again maybe before tae bring up the talk there is something that happen before, that bring down jin mood and upset him. that's why as soon as tae bring up the matter jin already act defensive, its understandable though. they must be tired and had a lot of stress regarding the performance. but then tae also frustrated to be heard and want to at least get his mind shared trouhgly, thats why he get so frustrated the momment jin appologize because that mean they need to closed the matter while his oppinoin hasn't been conveyed for a good shake, and there is somepart of him feeling so little because jin being so big hearted man by aproach the appology first while he (tae) keep on pushing the matter... well i love the fact that they still had control of themself and have a respect for each other even if the situation got heated and it was even before their performamce... imagine how stressfull that can be... they are indeed really amazing.💜💜💜💜
I think that it’s down to miscommunication. No matter how much older or younger s person is, it shouldn’t stop them from speaking up if something is wrong. I’m not really blaming either tbh.
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
I love both tae and Jin. But tbh this was taes fault. Jin was trying his best and he was trying to explain that he was doing his best but no one listened to him. Instead they carried on criticising him for his dancing. Jin was doing the best he could and it only happened because tae moves too far forward. I feel bad for Jin although the rest of the group made sure both of them were okay, I feel like they paid more attention to tae. Jin is the oldest and he has to hold in so much. Everyone assumes he’s okay because he’s the oldest. I feel like tae kinda overreacted by crying. DONT ATTACK ME I LOVE BTS SO MUCH AND I LOVE ALL OF THEM. but I feel like if anything it should’ve been Jin crying. They should’ve paid more attention to Jin and taken care of him more. I fell like they all went to tae more. He has so much pressure and they’re just criticising him even tho he’s trying his best. My little babies are all perfect tho. I love them
I always apologized first even it’s not my fault 🥺 my respect for Jin is increasing each day because he apologized first as a older brother even it’s not his full faults It’s just misunderstanding between Jin and V so I won’t be blaming on them 💜 My Bias is Jin but I love all the 7 💜 I’m not solo stans I just had a bias 💜
Jin dont worry, we (true armys) love you. Dont hear solo stan or haters. You are so kind, humble, love your brothers, not only has handsome face. Sometimes, you are too kind and can hurt your heart😞💜💜 Glad you made up with Taehyung💞
jane yumul Yes, even though it was not his mistake and RM had said they could not say who was right and who was wrong, Jin immediately stepped up to apologise and say he was wrong. That was VERY BIG of him as in their culture, the eldest is to be respected. He put his pride and ego aside just to placate Tae for the good of the group. Tae has a very big ego. People say Jin is narcissistic but it is actually Tae. He once said that the group needs him and without him they cannot do anything. That is true but then every member is equally important and they cannot do without any of them. It's just that nobody would actually say it aloud like he blatantly did. But having lived together for so long they know and love each other so much that they are able to forgive each other and move on. The way they solved the problem was very adult and mature. They are true professionals. But I cannot watch this without also saying that I thought jimin overstepped his boundary to come out in the middle of Jin and Tae talking to actually tell them to stop. Jin was already sore at being disrespected by Tae and here comes someone else to disrespect him again by bossing him around. Jimin likes to think that he's the social worker or counsellor of the group but he does not wait to be asked. He just pushes himself in people's face. In this case, he should not have stepped in. Only RM, as the leader had the right to step in but even he did not. I really wish that Jin had not listened to jimin and had told him to go away because they were still talking. He did say to stop butting in, though which was what jimin was doing. He really had no right to take over RM's position. He is not the oldest, neither is he the leader but there he was telling the eldest to stop their discussion! I know many Jimin stans are going to go like Oh no, our mochi is just being his angel self. He is the kindest, sweetest blah blah blah but be objective. If you are a male Korean and the oldest in a group that you've taken care of like a mother, you are not in a particularly good mood and you are disrespected twice in the same night by the second and third youngest in the group, how would you feel? Everyone be honest here and ask yourselves, if it was RM or Suga, would any of the younger ones dare to talk to them the way they talked to Jin that night? Yes some of you may say Jin should not allow them but Jin is not the type to scold. He would just say What would people think of you if they saw you disrespecting me? He expects them to check themselves and know their boundaries. Yes this video is about how they approach problems and solve them but we cannot help but look at HOW the problem came about too. And this is just one obvious one. How many other times did Jin get scolded by the younger ones that we don't know about? There was the one I saw where they were in an elevator and Tae was scolding Jin who looked resigned to his fate. There were staff as well as the group members in the elevator but did Tae care? He does not have the decency to do such things in private. He just does not care about giving Jin any face. Especially since he now has many fans, he has really gotten big-headed. For me, if a person is good-looking, can sing and dance well, look very stylish doing it, and has a 'cute' personality, he is a ZERO if he has no manners or consideration for the feelings of others, especially his elders.
@@oliveoyl1802you said everything i wanted to express.since English isn't my mother language .you are so right.spot on.been wanting to point this out but i always got bash from other taejin or Tae stands.its too bias to accept that no body is an Angel each or them must have flaws.i saw that elevator clip on tweeter it was posted on April 21th just before fansign when tae still has blue or green hair.he was rude towards Jin but tae stands defend him like always.i my self taejin shipper but i love Jin and felt his struggle dealing with Tae and JK.only jimin the magnae who respects him.to be honest best dancer in BTS in Jhope but since JK is good-looking and as their golden magnae so JK is the get the center position.he dance well but not as the same level as Jhope.we all know how showbizz works the good looking be at the front liner .but Jhope is down to earth and if you see Jhope in other clips he also corrected and gave advice to Jin ( i must admit Jin isn't a born dancer but he is a great and fast Learner but dancing isn't for everyone and it's not easy) and Jin gave respon and Jhope respects Jin's reason and no issue at all.it's so different than the way Tae brought up the issue.i love BTS i just don't approve on how Tae and JK take advantage of Jin's kindness and humbleness .also i try to feel how Jin's must have felt on Tae being The Most Handsome man in the world while the original concept in BTS is Jin the worldwide handsome.i honestly don't like to rank someone's looks .it's not fair for the other members despite their talents.to me they all handsome and talented.and another thing how cud tae did this to jin who supposed to be his close buddy even got paired as Taejin.and maybe Tae forgot how Jin was there to cheer him up while Army passed him during fansign on debut era.how ungrateful Tae is.i am disappointed
NightOwl 75 Yes. Thank you. For me I don’t really subscribe to the idea that you have to be totally submissive to someone just because they are older than you but I do believe in the general rule of just respecting one another. Tae, JK AND Jimin are ALL guilty of being outright rude to Jin but their stans think they are just being cute. The maknae line stans are just like their biases. RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL BIRDS OF A FEATHER! Yet they have the audacity to call ME disrespectful for saying their biases are disrespectful! They do not know that I used to be OT7 and liked them ALL as a group but as I watched them more and more, I got disappointed at the younger members. They are SO MUCH YOUNGER and INEXPERIENCED than Jin yet they act like they know better than him. Suga is only 3 months younger than Jin and actually knows more than Jin in terms of life experience because of what he went through compared to the sheltered Jin. Suga is also better than Jin in the entertainment business as he has the experience of being a rapper, songwriter and producer yet do we see him lord it over Jin? He could if he so wanted but even the Tsundere Suga knows his place according to their Korean way. I can’t get over seeing him stop talking when Jin tells him to. I feel uncomfortable for him at those times but I am at the same time full of respect and admiration for him for being able to contain himself and his feelings. It shows his mental strength more than if he were to outright confront Jin for telling him off. HE, of all of them could yell at Jin if he wanted, but does he? No he doesn’t. Neither do any of the others in the hyung line. I don’t know if they do it privately and if they do, that’s perfectly alright. That’s the way it should be done - PRIVATELY! I watched the guys arrive at the Lotte Family Concert venue and noticed how Tae walked straight from the car to the building without turning towards the screaming fans to his left like his team members who had waved and bowed. This is what he has become, proud and arrogant. Yet his stans will come up with some excuse for him. You wait and see. My friend, who likes Tae, commented that he looked glum and unhappy to perform that day. Yet nobody called him out for being unprofessional and letting his emotions get in the way of giving his fans a good time. My friend was quite disappointed in him and is seeing him for the pouty spoiled brat that he is and that’s why I am friends with her, because she knows right from wrong and doesn’t BLINDLY give her devotion to people who don’t deserve it. Tae’s fans probably think his s**t smells like perfume!
Happy girl Jimin is full of a sense of his own importance because people like you enable him. He should have let the 2 have as much time as they needed to do a proper closure instead of coming in part way and telling them to wind up. The others had all left the scene to give them that privacy & time they needed. If anyone should come out to say enough is enough, it should be RM the leader. It would be easier for Jin to take it from the lesder, NOT another maknae. Jimin is just lucky that Jin is the kind of nice, humble guy who doesn’t totally expect the maknae line to observe the Korean seniority rule. Any other person would have chewed him up good instead of just saying ‘stop butting in’ which was all Jin said. Jin was already upset about being ‘disrespected’ by Tae, a 95er and here was Jimin, another 95er to boss him around and tell him to stop with the closure? WTH is Jimin? You are EXACTLY like your bias! A BOSSY KNOW-IT-ALL! WTH are you to tell me if I can be in the fandom or not? After reading the comment sections of the many different vids I’ve watched, I’ve noticed a pattern of maknae line stans who think they are the fandom police and can decide who gets or doesn’t get to be in the fandom. WTF gave you that right? I used to be OT7. It’s people like you, claiming to like all 7, who started OBVIOUSLY showing so much love and support for the maknae line that have made me want to balance things up by supporting the hyung line. Most especially Jin, the most bashed-up member. You PRETEND to like all 7 but you GUSH over uour bias like he is the only one who exists in the group. You think I’m stupid? And guess what? Even PARENTS have their favorite among their children. I’m guessing you are not one of them. I can see why. Sorry not sorry. P.S. Put your $ where your mouth is and support the group in a way that matters. I may fight for Jin in comments section but I fight for the WHOLE GROUP in terms of votes and tickets to shows etc. Don’t get me started on the thousands I’ve spent on their merchandise! I may be only one person and therefore very insignificant but every person counts in the survival of the group. Do you really want people leaving the fandom just because you’re hurt that your bias was dissed? TYPICAL maknae line stan! With the number of other groups coming up and taking many people away as THEIR fans, BTS needs every fan they can keep. You don’t care about THAT, do you, fake OT7?
Happy girl You need to change your name cos u ain’t no happy girl. You are Miss BOSSY BOOTS for telling people if they qualify to be in a fandom or not. You are so typical of the kind of fan who think they are BTS guardians telling everybody to be mindful of their feelings or else get out. BTS themselves know that they will be nothing and nowhere without their fans. But they need REAL fans that call them out when they’re wrong. Especially when the intention is to make them better people. BTS do not need fans who are so blinded to their faults and treat them like God, following their every word. I mean I’ve been environmentally-conscious before it became fashionable and I laugh at how people who didn’t care before are now ‘saving the earth’ because their bias wants them to. OMG! Don’t they have their own minds and consciousness? Are they puppets? But I’m happy because what they’re doing is positive and a step in the right direction. I just wonder though. If these same fans or people who are like them ever fall for someone not as pure as BTS, would they also blindly do their bidding to please them? I bet if your mother, who carried you in her womb for 9 months and suffered through labour for you, were to tell you to stop spending so much time or money on BTS, you wouldn’t listen to her as you do BTS. Wouldn’t you be considered disrespectful then? Would she tell you to get out of the family? Get real, HAPPY(?) GIRL. And don’t throw 99% or any other figure at me from whatever poll or survey you would have conducted(???)! I don’t care if 100% of people are against me. I am stull SPEAKING MYSELF! There are many people who write about BTS members whose behavior they don’t agree with but people only jump at me and troll me. But I understand that too. COWARDS and BULLIES will find the safety in numbers and beat up on people who dare speak out. The difference between you and me is if I were to meet the 100% of people against me FACE TO FACE, I would still stand my ground. So go ahead, HAPPY GIRL. Continue to make yourself happy. Just don’t do it in my face.
I mean also, poor Jin, sweetie is trying his best to improve and grow in the dancing department and he’s really working hard, so when he thought he was getting hate for not doing his part properly of course he feels hurt. 💜💜
to be honest i hate analyze videos but u made an exception to me your analysis was soo professional , clear, understandable and u pointed to somethings i never get attention to it also always when i hear thing about their argument i feel like people overreact about it bcs i think it's normal if two people disagree with each other they aren't an angels after all and sure they had a lots of this argument before but this time you managed to bring me a good memory about their argument so thank u for your good work
I love the sincere and cute smile in SeokJin face when Tae gave him the first finger heart while changed the choreo for first time, he was adorable and Tae was so sweet!, I love the way they get over all of this and show us how they love each other. Thanks a lot for your great vid. :)
Jin, though he's visibly hurt demonstrated restraint, maturity, graciousness. I'm glad my Bangtan grandkids resolved the situation amongst themselves, all is forgiven. If more of us can learn from BTS, it will be a better world.
Reading the comments I really don’t understand why people are discussing who’s right and who’s wrong here. It’s not our place to take sides in their arguing, and it’s also something that’s in the past and well resolved already. Bringing it up while taking sides would only be hurtful.
I hate seeing them fight too, BUT I'm glad they show it because it shows that they are human too. Incredible but human. They truly are really good role models for hard work, determination, brotherhood, dedication, and communication. I love them so much it hurts. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I dont want to defending both of them cuz im not there to see it, and im not them so i dont know what they feel, and im not the one that has responsible to judge them,, but the important thing is "fight" is a normal thing that often happen but we all know that "fight" make them closer and closer So stop blaming Jin or V okay?? You guys didnt even there to know what really happened.
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
Jin lower his pride to say sorry to tae..and im crying..i really stan a good man😭, ..i love you jin❤ But i noticed after taejin fights they are now close even more❤
BTS Jin is always humble in his own ways. He did his best that he could in their dance choreo . He works hardest for him not to be left behind and to prove to those criticizers that he can get it all through however hard choreos might be. I love him. A hard-working man. BTS FOREVER!
I never watched so many spring day clips on rewind but today i noticed that Tae's part is a bit difficult. He has to run back stop in front of Jimin and jump and then go sideways behind jimin in just split of secs. May be that is why he was extremely worried about choreo and got carried away by his emotions. Jin did his best to run fast in the problematic concert but it wasnt enough to give Tae enough time to do his steps. But i am so proud of the way they solved it. I live in a hostel with my friends and throughout 4 years nothing big happened but if we were a bit like them maybe our first big argument wouldnt have ended with disappointment and tears. We overcame our fight as well but it took us 3 months to be back to normal again.
@Aratrika Ray He wasn't trying to cover it up... He just didn't realize he made a mistake. He is only human. Stop bringing him down every chance you get.
@Aratrika Ray So you're saying that Tae started the argument knowing that he had made the mistake and was trying to blame it on Jin intentionally? Why would you even think/assume that? Tae loves Jin more than you ever could, he would never do that, so stop spitting lies. And for fuck's sake stop pretending to be OT7, just admit you hate Tae and leave.
@Aratrika Ray You start by saying that you didn't blame it all on Tae and in the next sentence you say it was all his fault. Lol make up your damn mind and for the last time he made the mistake of going too far but he didn't realize it. Basically what I'm saying could be metaphorized as if Tae was driving a car, got distracted and hit Jin. You're saying he saw Jin and sped up the car to hit him. There's a difference. Now could you stop dragging Tae under every comment and just bury this? It's been years, Tae felt guilty and that's why he cried, and he later apologized, isn't that enough? Like jesus, let the man breathe...
I know how they both feels. Tae just wanted a perfect performance. While jin was disappointed to be blamed even he has done his best. They ended up fighting to stand their point. Jin then say sorry try to make the situation less intense but tae was still mad and couldn’t stop showing his emotions. Tae shouldve pretended to be okay after jin say sorry even tho he’s still mad, just like how Jin put aside his pride and say sorry even he still been thinking its not his fault.
If Tae wanted a perfect performance he shouldn't have messed up, Jin had to try and cover more distance than time allowed because of his mistakes. Stop blaming Jin.
i still find it so sad that jimin, while he said tae was in the wrong for being disrespectful, thought that jin should have done what tae said in the first place. i love u jimin but jin is doing his best and in this situation, in terms of the actual core of the problem: the run, was not his fault at all. jin even had to speed walk to tae to reach him at the correct beat.
First of all, Tae could not know how far he reached because he was facing back, Jin could not complete beats on time because there was huge distance between them. There was clearly a misunderstanding. Both of them made a mistake. Both of them resolved and said sorry, so we shouldn't even fight in the first place. Many people bring up the fact that how Jin's feelings were not heard but both of them were hurt. It was kind of right for Jimin to say that Jin should have ran faster, because when you have already covered that much distance, you cannot go back, and the only option left is to run faster. But Jin was also right when he said he ran as fast as he can, because in the choreo he cannot start running unless Tae gives him a signal. In short, the choreo was messed up and Taejin changed it for the better.
@@aditiballal2591 Tae was hurt because he felt that jin was brushing off his concerns which is definitely valid. Where did I point out that Tae voluntarily went further. I did not. He also accidentally went farther than intended which made complications for him and jin. I only pointed out that while Jimin commented on Jin's choreo mistake, at the same time he didn't point out Tae's choreo errors which wasn't really fair. Yes this fight was years ago and theirs no point talking about it but lol you can't really force people what to say or what not to say. It's just an observation.
seokjin it was not your fault and we stand with you,you are really great that you apologised first tho it was never your fault. even if the members didnt comfort you,we know you are the best, an angel that no one deserves.
Its just make me sad seeing someone innocent and try his best was blamed over and over esp in quite a rude way and then the one who got blamed apologized first, what a beautiful soul is that. I cant imagine how hurt Jin hearing and facing that time to time. Tbh, he never do mistake in stage at least its soo rare to see him doing mistake, instead the other are but still Jin is the one got all the blame. Ik theyre joking sometimes but what Jin feel is the other way🥺
I think that jin was the right one. Taehyung went too far away, so he couldn’t have put it all on jin for not making it. It was also taehyungs fault. Taehyung should also apologize after jin apologized.
you must be not understan about the situation. its because when tae talk serious about coreo, jin make fun of it (you know jin right he's always joking) and he's joke in wrong situation. its confirm from RM when they talk together. when someone make fun of you in a serious situation, I think I am going mad too. its logic if jin just said yes in what tae said to him and the problem can be solve but in that situation his joking about that and than tae got mad and said something rude. and who's fault ??? who's gassoline the fire ?
@@esterdream7032 i dont get it why jin must say yes ? It is the same as he admit that he is wrong, that he run slower, that he must run faster. As you can see in the video jin really did run as fast as he can. And it really is not his fault, v is the one who is walk more far than usuall. Why he must agree that he made mistake? I would defend my self if someone acuse me wrong if i'm sure i am right. By your logic is when jin said he already trying the best , v should stop arguing. But i wonder why you only mention that jin must say yes to v request but not the other way around.
One thing I like about these two's personalities are the ability to say what they want, whether or not it will hurt the other people they are talking to, y'know, it just sounds so real. That's not my personality, cuz I am just on a Jimin type of level that as much as possible I don't want to say something that can offend the other person. TaeJin and their free personalities are admirable.
누가 잘못한것은 없음 다만 태형이가 먼저 정말 정말 부드럽게 더 지혜롭게 웃으면서 아닌듯하며 형한테 말했으면 진도 접수하고 부드럽게 대응했을텐데. 지민이가 말한것처럼 막내라인들은 형임을 잊지않는것이 중요한것같다. 방탄들이 마음이 많이 여리고 착해서 여기보이는 상황들이 아주 심각한것이 아닌데도 눈물흘리고 마음들이 불편해한다. 옇튼 갈등해소과정이 참 훌륭하다. 무대나 무대뒤나 밝게 사이좋게 서로 사랑해주는 방탄의 모습은 진짜다.
I feel bad for them fights are normal in relationships etc Why are people going at each of them Jin is my ultimate bias and seeing this hurts me I’m not taking sides The fact that Jin apologised straight after is amazing and it shows they do love eachother even when they do fight Fights are normal in friendships.
That's okay. Fight can make the relationship getting stronger. And now we can see how tae-jin is clingy each other now just like glue 😁 tae is really love his hyung. Same as jin too
Like Suga said its normal that they are fighting. Because of it they become more closer and understand each other. They live together almost 5 years (when the fight happened). They are like siblings. Siblings fight sometimes but you become closer and love each other.
Ohh i thought im the only one see those..i mean i have been checking all videos of bts esp interviews and vlive..he seems happy and smiling but it seems hes been suffering from something and crying pain inside...hope im wrong coz i love all bts i dont one any of them hurt...they are so precious and deserves all happiness and love ..
Because Maknae line have too many solo stans and they think Seokjin is just good for nothing... JK idk 😂... But fr Seokjin breaths and they give him de*ath th*reats for the whatever reasons 💀
@@viewer325 Nah. You need to expand your ARMY circle & look carefully at these solo stan. Some of them are actually antis or just join ARMY to create drama. Most ARMY I know are beautiful people who adore all of them even if they have specific bias. And you need to differentiate destructive solo stan & appreciative solo stan. Appreciative solo stan will hype their bias & may mention what are being unappreciated. Nothing wrong with that. Destructive solo stan will focus on what negative things being said about their bias & then turn on other members. So careful not to fall under that.
BangtanMyBangtan what i really wanted to say that i was just talking about Seokjin Antis here because Maknae "Solo Stans" and Haters really have been attacking Seokjin for past 3 years now. i wrote i what i see generally with solo a/cs on Twitter. I used to follow Jin's Solo a/cs and found out honestly they are really dumb and just constantly victimize him in some way or the other.
This is my opinion of the argument: Tae shouldn’t have started pointing out flaws of Seok-Jin’s dancing because Jin is sensitive when you talk about his dance abilities. Also Jin is 3 years older than Tae and in South Korea you should respect anyone older than you otherwise it’s extremely rude. Jin kept on telling Tae ‘I can’t do it that fast’ ‘I can’t do that’ ‘I’ll be off beat if I do that’ he said he’s trying his best but the way Tae told him was rude but in an argument your rude and don’t mean to be. Tae told him 10 minutes before they had to get on stage, so he timed it wrong because Jin wouldn’t have enough time to work over it. I believe Tae was in the wrong but I understand where he was coming from but the way he said it was rude and Jin kept on saying he’s doing his best. If Jin finds it harder to dance that well than Tae has to know that Jin isn’t as advanced as Tae is. Jin wanted to be the bigger man as he apologised first but Tae had really made him lose Dance confidence and pride. Jin said after ‘I know you see me bright and happy all the time but I’ve been really depressed and I just want to be positive for you guys’ which really broke my heart knowing he only smiles for the people around him. But what annoyed me is that no one comforted Jin, the Bighit staff saw that so they comforted Jin when the members didn’t. Jin hasn’t made a mistake on stage yet he is called a bad dancer that’s why he is sensitive when talking about his dancing abilities. This is my opinion and it’s no hate towards Tae, Jin is my bias and Tae is my bias wrecker.
I think in the same way because jin really try his best danceing and he never get encourge for this it was awrong time to talk that time and tea even cried after thefight maybe he felt bad talking like that to jin espcially jin was theone who apologised first but days pass fast they was and still thebest friends in bts my bais is hope but teajin is some thing i really love so much they are my friendship goals
@@joditamara5360 it's in the past now they are really close but jin that time said sorry because he didn't take tea's talk seriously he just wanted to keep every thing positive befire the stage time let's move on this is old
@@gentlyyhaven Regarding the argument it was Seokjin's fault because he not only didn't take him seriously but also provoked Taehyung anger. If he wanted respect he should've respected him as well.
That time they argue and look at them now. How close they are. How beautiful their bonding is now. Tae prepared a video of birthday wish for jin. Jin was so happy to see that.
They are family they can fight anytime...this way their bond grow more stronger💜💜💜💜💜💜💜..im happy bcoz of this fight they changed the choreo n gave more sweet moments💜
this was really hard for me too watch. Especially as there were some parts cut out which means its more heated than it looks. ON camera we see them having fun, playing around and being goofy but since they are together most of the times this was just an example of how it looks or even worst behind closed doors. and this isn't the right time to be saying who's fault is who's... Weather its jins fault or taehyungs that really shouldnt matter. And they just needed to communicate. its not just the fact that jin needed to run faster but taehyung needing to take smaller steps but not to far and not to close. They both made a mistake and that happens
In this situation, tbh I feel bad for Jin...whether its V or Jin who was at fault, V still has to remember that Jin is older than him...in some ways, Jin admits and apologize quickly showing how good he is as a Hyung...
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
I understand both side and I think that both are wrong and right at the same time. When you get bad reviews, you feel bad and need to defend yourself. Jin must have felt wronged because for him, he was right and he really was. But I think that what angered Tae maybe, was the way he took it ? I know some people uses humour to hide their pain, but when you are trying to do something serious and you feel like the person in front of you isn't taking you serisouly, it's so baaaad. Personally, it makes me so mad and I always end up crying because I feel like a joke to that person... So yeah, it might be what threw of Tae and as for Jin, the way Tae talked to him... It was a little bit harsh, but at the same time, who argue while singing with rainbows coming out of their mouths ? lol
The other videos about it made us depressed but this was really good it explained it very well and at last made us smile too,with their amazing bond. Thanks for the video!
It's not about who's right and wrong it's about the ARMY. BTS always want to give their best to ARMY. I think Taehyung didn't mention this thing in rehearsal he must have thought that it was because the stage was big. But if you see that episode, you'll find RM and JIMIN talking about their part also So it must have made taehyung to talk about it. he didn't have thought that it would be fight. And if you see from the start Taehyung and Jin are more close to each other than other. Jin was right on his point about being fast. Because both wanted best performance for the team. You see the pressure at that time was too much, they had to go on stage and they had to get rid of issue but somehow the situation didn't seem okay. But it's good to fight. This tells us that BTS are normal people and they are not afraid to tell people that they do make mistake but fir them they try to mend them too. In the end, you see they realize that they made up and talk about their issue. Also There are a lot of people saying taehyung did it for camera attention. He doesn't need to get camera attention. If you see he had been always shy from camera especially when it only focuses on him. And criticizing Jin is not a good thing. I think SPRING day still today is known to be their song and they always make memories out of it, even it's their favorite songs. Just an opinion
Heart KimSoekJin And i dont want to think that BH is being unfair to jin coz it makes me soo sad 😔😔😔 just hoping for the best to jin, coz he is a wonderful man inside and out ☺
Well, Taehyung took small steps but the problem is the other members moved a bit far from V when he was to take those strides which made a long gap between them and Jin was really fast there so the blame goes to none. It's just misunderstanding and y not? V couldn't see that he was way too far from the others members although it's not his fault. Jin knows he ran as fast as he could which he did..... If there is supposed to be blame then others members are to blame as well coz they moved and made their position a bit far away from V. They work really hard and this reflects from this fight. They couldn't handle a simple mistake which means they always try to not make any mistakes and provide us with well-organized performance. Thanks to these hard-working people for their efforts and setting up an example of perfection.
Even though Jin is my bias but I still want to say please don't hate tae guys. Every artist is sensitive before their concert so that is why tae said those stuff cuz he wanted their performance to be perfect. And when they were making up after the concert tae even cried and I think he cried because he regretted having that fight with jin. Also jhope once mentioned that tae and jin became umseparable after the fight.
I see this situation as to why it became a conflict despite minor mistake on the choreography is because of two reasons: 1) v's title in the group and 2) jin's relationship with the members. So hold on to your seat belts because this shit's gonna be long So, starting off with v's title in the group, not only bts, but us armys refer to him as "alien" because he often do things unusual, his words formations doesn't make sense, or mumble weirdly to himself, and yes, we don't refer to it as something negative but rather, cute. However, this became the reason why the members oftentimes don't take him seriously because they don't find what he say or do makes sense so they either just laugh it off or ignore it. Now, playing a role on this quarrel, we obviously see tae so pissed as he mentioned the problem and he probably do so because he thinks the members doesn't take him seriously because despite the conflict in the choreo that they need to fix, jin initially didn't take it seriously/ joke about it(which I don't blame jin for because there's also other factors not shown in burn the stage like personal problems they might currently holding or mental stress, etc.) So it probably add to tae's frustration regarding the situation. Now on to jin's relationship with the members. So, as many of us know, respect is a huge thing in korea(not just with older people, but people with high social status or positions) and as we know jin's relationship with the members, we know the maknae line just throw it off, especially jungkook lmao, and we see this as cute and funny while jin just smile and laugh along when it happens because he might also feel the same. But for everytime it happens, of course he also feel bad for being disrespected like that considering he's the oldest. And we even notice the hyung line giving more respect to jin probably because they also want to receive the same as they are the "hyung"s of the group. So now, relating it to the subject, we see jin initially joking/ not taking what v said seriously because he might felt bad thinking he's not being respected with v talking to him that way telling him what to do despite him already taking precautions and acting on a solution. And as we can hear him mention when they talked alone, he often get depressed, and laughing and joking is his way to get out of it and to lift members as well. So for v to act in a way, it must have hurt him that cause him to act the way he did that worsen the problem. However, Jin still take the first step and apologize to tae even though it's not his fault. V, however, is still visibly mad because of what I already mentioned, not being taken seriously, thinking jin only did that to recognize his whine and to end their argument which also made him cry knowing jin's side And there you go, those are the reasons and whys to why it suddenly become a big deal despite resolving it by just taking a simple adjustment to the choreo. And post disclaimer, these are just my opinions based on my observation, how I know them and my knowledge about bts
And jungkook got upset when jhope asked kookie to pour water for the hyungs because suga was doing it. To me all the hyungs are extremely nice to the younger members, do not havr the usual korea culture of respecting the hyung(is the biggest) . This tend to happend because gentle jin, who didnt set a typical hyung to the others thus they become all like "same age friend" . Which is ehy they are closer and funnier compared to other kpop groups. But yeh i still feel bad at times seeing them bully or disrespect jin tbh.
comments like these add fuel to the fire. it’s so tiring seeing people call maknae line, especially Jungkook, “disrespectful” because of the way they interact with jin. seokjin is naturally very playful, he’s the youngest in his family and he gets along with jungkook especially well. they act like brothers & they clearly love each other a lot. people who go off on tangents about jungkook being “disrespectful” have clearly never had a relationship like them before. jimin teases yoongi and no one calls him disrespectful. they all tease joon and no one calls them disrespectful. remember that one live of jin just talking about raising jungkook and he’s suddenly like “this is making me miss jungkook, bye i’m gonna go see him” they love and admire each other so much. jungkook respects the hell out of him, teasing someone when you’re both laughing together isn’t disrespectful. jungkook isn’t a bratty little kid, he knows when to shut up and be mature, don’t sell him short. maybe people who call them disrespectful in humorous situations have no sense of humor or friends or siblings, maybe all of the above, but it’s really just the normal way young people act with each other. just because seokjin loves to act childish with them doesn’t mean they don’t respect him. hoseok (i think it was him) cringes and calls him childish, no one thinks he’s a disrespectful kid for it. jin/jungkook have one of the most wholesome, genuine, familial bonds in bts so idk where people get the idea that them bickering (as yoonmin do) is somehow jungkook not respecting jin? maybe people just need a reason to dislike maknae line or something, but that’s a dumb reason to. jin has never once said a word that would indicate he feels disrespected by their jokes. do you think if he hated it he’d constantly initiate teasing with jungkook?? why would he always start those situations if he felt less than afterwards? he always laughs along with them. jungkook is a respectful asian man who was born and raised in korea, he knows the rules surrounding elder respect much better than you do.
It's understandable and ironically, you're most likely to get into fights to those people you're close with. They are still two different people no matter how close they are, i feel for jin being the oldest and disrespected (though tae is unaware) his defense mechanism kicked in and later on tried to lighten up the mood through jokes to the point tae got angry because he felt jin is not sincere.. But hey, without this kind of arguments they will not know what they mean to each other and learn how to read between the line.. They've a new reason to appreciate what real family is..
I feel like Jin also couldn’t express himself as in he couldnt explain what had happened because i do believe that V went too far out but we as the audience could see that clearly but Jin could not explain that but oh well it just goes to show how BTS overcome such issues that if not sorted could lead to bigger problems.
I think this situation made Jin and Tae understand each other more better. I mean look at them right now.. They're more closer than before. I think it's also a misunderstanding instead of a fight. Taehyung wasn't satisfied with Jin's performance, but we all know that Jin tried his best, but that doesn't mean it's already Taehyung's fault. Taehyung probably wasn't in a good mood too. I'm an OT7 stan so I don't wanna choose sides on who's more right and who's more wrong. I'm so thankful that they handled this situation really well and amazing.
yay, when i saw this i didn't know what moves they were talking about and i wanted to see the actual performance but i thought i wouldn't find it bc idk much about them, i didn't even know they were talking about spring day, i thought they showed that part of the choreography for dramatic effect lol. this is awesome, and you even added other performances, thank you so much. and i thought i understood the argument but the details and what may be missing made me understand it better.
UPDATE 16th Apr 2021 : I'm OT7 & some people failed to read this pinned comment. If I see again some random ppl completely blaming Jin or Tae with the intention of creating frictions among ARMY, I will completely delete your comment. It's very obvious you are not ARMY and solo stan are not welcome here.
You can state a case & explain your reasons but dropping some BS one liner will not be tolerated anymore.
UPDATE 21st Aug 2019 : Hi guys, thank you for watching & commenting. I noticed some troubling comments lately. As I do believe everybody have their own opinion, I didn't say anything at first. But it seems some fans are using this video either against Tae or Jin.
Which is not the point of this video.
The main point is how BTS took an argument, solve it & turn it into something beautiful. It's not about anybody fault.
For me, this situation came about because they are stressed. Jin tends to be dismissive (making jokes) during serious moments & Tae tends to push on & be blunt. It's ironic bcoz both wanted the best performances. And Jin wasn't in a good mood even before Tae said anything. Tae on the other hand was probably very hype up.
So when the response was not align with their mood, miscommunication happened.
This is not their first fight, nor it is the biggest (Namjoon & Yoongi are known to have big fights b4 debut, so does Jimin & Tae), nor their only fights (we can see their dynamic changes each time there's trouble in the team). They fought & bicker many times.
So why BTS is still BTS?
Because of what I'm trying to show here. How BTS handles their fights. Explanation / Elaboration, Acknowledgement, Acceptance & Resolutions.
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Hi guys, the original videos had to be deleted as it was blocked by BigHit. So I had to re-edit some parts, tho it might not be as good as the original. There are many who comments on the previous vid, so I apologize that you can't see your comments anymore. Just know that I've read & appreciated them all, even when we have different opinions.
Hopefully there would be no problem for this version.
Thank you !
BangtanMyBangtan OK thanks we recomment
What was the problem about the original upload that BigHit wanted it deleted??
BangtanMyBangtan l
@@missjeanny111 I used the exact clips from the show. That's why this time I freeze frame the clips & kept the audio. I don't blame BigHit tho.
@BTS베이비 모치 Yes. It was blocked worldwide. So I have to change it a bit.
In Korea,Being old gives u a lot of authority,,,but Jin never uses it...he never seems to be real hyung...thats why i like Jin a lot...he is best..he always acts like maknae....i love him a lot...💜💜💜💜
I feel the same.. That's why he is my bias.. Jin is the eldest but I have never seen any video that he use his hyung authority to control or ordering the members.. Instead he always the one who create the fun atmosphere.. He allows the youngers to bully him and make laugh at him.. He always sacrifice his handsome face and do silly movements to make the rest laugh...
ofcourse he used it, But not like other kpop group
you can watch Rookie KIng BTS variety show
Me too
I noticed this too...in many groups being hyung especially the eldest seems to make them far from the group cause they're at the top but jin isn't like that,,, he's so chill with the boys even they knew it and they did say jin is just like their close friend at times and a good hyung at the appropriate time...
In this instance he reminded V that he was his elder but also that he tries not to suffocate them with his status.
personally i don't get how Jin gets through all the judgments on his dance, all the meant to be funny jokes on his mistakes.. he's a great man
are you a fan of one direction?
I don't know either.
Same💜💜💜
Jin is so quick to accept shortcomings,,, that is why i like jin....
I just hope others understand that Jin always take all criticism about his dance positively but sometimes it can be overbearing. it's not too much to ask to not always pin point what he did wrong or what should he do.
RNJSHTJJ bts everyone becomes an expert when it's jin it leaves me room to nothing but laugh at their hypocrisy...
baldiesarelife 🤔 I can just say that I would stand by ot7 always, because I really don't know what hurt you in my comment. and I love both tae and Jin otherwise I would not even be on a taejin video.
RNJSHTJJ bts I was agreeing with your comment...I said that everyone becomes an expert when it comes jin because they critisize him the moment he breathes 😅
For example I found many to say that he was struggling in the latest album with his lines and he should have less for his "own safety" which I find as smth hypocrite...
baldiesarelife ohh my mistake. 😛💜😀
RNJSHTJJ bts It was my mistake for not being clear enough thou 😅😂
Everybody noticed Tae's tear in this fight but our inexpressive little hamster he was crying more inside . And everyone failed to notice that . Seeing the pain in Jin's eyes I started crying.
Exactly
He deserves all the love ❤
Yes , I feel like hes the one who felt hurt the most even if he didnt cry and still he apologized first 🥺. But its ok now i guess, they learn and grow and this help them to understand each other more💜
@@qearaaa01 yeah...my jinoo is the bestest
jin was desperately trying to hold in his tears after fighting with taehyung
i'm sobbing :(
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I salute jin bcoz he is adult but he's the one saying sorry first.. I proud of you baby.. 💜 💜 💜 I love you jin 💜 💜 💜
jin was desperately trying to hold in his tears after fighting with taehyung
i'm sobbing :(
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Jin is so good and tolerant people I have known that he never hurt someone specially his beloved hyung. I'm really love him every daylight💕😘
Jin Forever he is too kind, if I was Jin, I would mad to Taetae lol
JUNGKOOK IS BUNNY why would you be mad at Tae? He was only giving constructive criticism and trying to fix the choreo
But when a person is at a bad mood, giving advices generates anger.
Telling them their drop-outs at a bad mood will induce anger
JUNGKOOK IS BUNNY How do you know Jin was not mad/upset? I am sure he was but probably tried to hide how he felt which does not mean he is not mad/upset. I had a feeling he was.
So basically, the lejindary taejin moments in spring day is a result of their misunderstanding.
Wow. Another side to BTS. I love them more and more.
jin really does his best and sadly (at this point) the members has not even realize it yet to the point he had to explain and defend himself. I know they do NOW but watching old content, i realize that when they are rewatching their music videos/live performance they only comment on two things 1. his looks 2. him being offbeat or too slow at dancing. (watch their self reaction to danger and live 21centgirls/bst) I think the main reason why it seemed like he was not taking it seriously is that he is hurt and is trying to brush it off.
I think out of everyone in bts, jin is definitely the strongest in terms of perseverance and pure hard work. Im not korean but I am from an asian country so i understand how age is important and looking at how all his juniors managed to overtake him so easily must have hurt regardless of how kind ones personality is. And what made me so impressed and like jin so much is that he does not have a single OUNCE of resentment at all. Anyway he literally built himself up from scratch. Bighit was not giving him a chance to really shine ( dont get me started at the time they had jin dress as a banana/objects while everyone else had actual roles) which was why I believe he adopted this persona in order to bring attention to himself. - Bts themselves has said that jin has really been shy.
I think jin has been keeping this bottled up which is why i am so impressed that he still manages to keep his cool and even apologize first. Anyways stream TONIGHT, AWAKE, EPIPHANY peace
I think this is too deep of analysist based off very carefuly picked footage...But even saying what you said all all truth....all members had some issues within the group, and they can only be worked on if the person with the issue opens up.If we jsut pick V, for whom a lot have the idea of having it easy...we can also make the case for he was not treated well:
He clearly had a rough start within the group...most members acknowledged of either not understanding him(Rm ad JIn) or outright not really liking(Suga) him at the beginning. He was labled a "dumb pretty boy" "an alien" "the weird one" AND he got the most attention at the start - which might seem a like a good thing, btu I doubt it truly is when you are a kid with Tae s personality. Once it got better, he basicaly started losing family one by one and getting more and more closed up. He is clearly trying to work on his education and manners, as a reponse to all the names he got at the beginning...and BTS did not help at the start with all the jabs at his intelligence.
And I am not saing this to in any way dicredit BTS as amazing people, I am just trying to make people see that it is NORMAL. When you put a group of people together, it will take literal yeaars until they understand where are the lines, what hurts, what helps and so on, a lot of mistakes will be made along the way and eve after...what counts is that BTS always tried, always had good intentions and lears from their mistakes.
@@Kunoichi4ever4 im literally just pointing out jin's experience. we can go one by one about the struggles each member had cuz they all have aspects where they overcame hard situations and we can definitely praise that as well. But I don't really see the point in your comment. Every member experienced difficult situations and they definitely grew as individuals, yes, but I was just using this time to talk about jin specifically and I don't think there is anything wrong with that? Not sure what you are trying to tell me really.
@@bublyns True
@@Kunoichi4ever4 stop bringing tae in when they were talking about JIN.
I think this really shows not only how good Jin and Tae's relationship is, but also the rest of Bangtan. You can clearly see that they have a close relationship, and Tae wants them to succeed. So does Jin. At the end of the fight, you could see that they accepted that they just wanted what was best for each other. And the rest of BTS helped, especially Namjoon and Jimin. They all work so well together, and anyone can see how close they are and how much they care for each other. They truly are a family.
I loveTaeJin forever . Jin is so cute my angel 09:09 he is a baby
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
oh i know which scene you are talking about. Tae didnt mean it that way at all. he explained after he shouted that he shouted because he was proud of jin.
But i get what you mean. when i watch like bts reaction to their performance they sometimes criticize his dancing mistakes on LIVE which i thought was uncalled for,,, they could have talked to him after their Live ended. They also pointed at him when an interviewer asked who usually has dancing mistakes. I think because he tries to vibe and be friendly to the maknae they sometimes forget that he is the oldest one and even being the oldest ones has a lot of pressure too...
Sometimes I feel sad too about this, jin himself say that he doesn't have charisma that's why when his brothers make a fun of him and that's to much, he really want to telling them to stop but he can't just telling them because he scared he may hurt them, and they get fight. Even we knew that he is the one who get hurt, but still he can't do anything about that. In taejin fight, he might not cry like how tae cry but we can see that his body are shaking, he try his best not to cry and show us the weakness of him. He hold his tear but trust me he must be hurt so much, because we all know how struggling jin with his dancing skills, so if someone who is really close to him and know how hard he practice every single day just to be like the other members say something like that ,it's must be hurt him so much. Watching this video always make me want to tell him that he is doing the best.
I guess Tae didn't realize he walked farther than usual that day. Either way he should have chosen a different time for that talk
Yeah agreed I think he didn't realize it at first because the choreo is that he walks, and I think that's the start of the conflict + the stress, so sad tho but at the end of the day they both admitted their mistakes, so much love for Taejin, this conflict just proved they really love each other. #Taejin
Actually he did & that's why he raised the matter up. But I think all of that got lost in translation. As far as I know BTS will talk a bit about their performances before each show. At that time, the members were discussing about parts of their choreo & that might be the reason Jin got upset at first. They might be talking about their dance & Jin got frustrated & then Tae decided to raise another issue. So everything went downhill after that.
Aratrika Ray their best friends. They know each other better than any fan does. Jin knows what Tae meant. And fyi you do seem like you hate Tae.
@Aratrika Ray It could be because he already had raised the issue before and was ignored, which made him frustrated. As we see, a lot of parts were cut and we don't know what really happened behind the scenes, so please don't make assumptions. None of us know what happened off camera so please don't be so quick to paint Tae has the villain. He can make mistakes, he's only human. Anyway, just be glad it's over and stop bringing it up again. This happened what, 3 years ago? Let it go...
Kittae they might know each other than anything but why do you think that fight started anyway you think jin apologized just cause he realized it no. That’s how the fight started anyway and beside Jin was always insecure and if your a fan you just know tae should’ve talked it out in Another way ik he was frustrated but he should’ve at least thought about how Jin would feel. Jin being older he apologized first
I cried for Jin. This hits home, especially the part when he kept repeating that he had tried his best.
I've only seen other videos of the fight, but I never saw the fancams of what happened before. Now I see both sides. I totally understand the way Jin took the pointers, just cause he's always critized for his dancing, and Tae moved further, so he was trying the best he could. While Tae thinks he's trying to help someone he admires so much and is getting frustrated that he isn't being heard. I'm glad that in the end, they took the part where they found about the choreography and made it their own.
@7_idiots_ruined_me aka BTS At that times, he didn't know he was wrong, how could he accept the mistake ? lol
As the problem is now settled, he must have later.
@7_idiots_ruined_me aka BTS I think you are a Tae hater, and anyone who have a slightest hate for a any of these 7 babies, is not a true army. Why I'm saying this because I've seen your other comments too. Listen, both V and Jin were confused about their performance. They were both tired as hell. And sometimes not every conversations work perfectly, specially when you are tired. They both made mistakes and they solved it out amazingly. They are family and family always fights.
@Aratrika Ray I totally understood where you were coming from. 👍🏼 And I didn't take you as a "Tae hater."
I'm literally crying. Jin let's everybody make fun of him, because he is the "oldest" and shouldnt get hurt. But nobody understands that he is actually hurt. It breaks my hurt.
I love how Jin saying sorry first instead of let this fight bigger.
Jin is the best hyung 💜just because he is the oldest doesnt mean he is okay with everything he can get hurt too.he said that his pride is hurt but still apologize to v first..so kind of him and jin said he tried his best taehyung 😭'im use to get depressed but im just trying to stay positive for you guys' that was heavy 😭both are right from their own sides of view anyway here's a big thumps up and a big heart for the best hyung jin 👍💜💜💜💜💜💜
My opinion
As a dancer its difficult to know what to do especially when you cant see the other members
Neither are in the wrong
Tae accidentally walked too far because he couldn't see the gap Because he was turned around
And Jin just didn't do anything wrong what so ever
So it triggers me when army make such a big deal out of this argument, even when they resolved it in the end. Stop picking sides of your biases when there's literally no need to
squishy yoongles exactly thank you. Do army’s not realise that it is normal and healthy to fight. Bts have been with each other for now 7 years and are like family. So of course they have fought.
@@Veronika-vy5ou omg exactly people can't tell me they haven't fought with their best friend at least once. They've known each other since 2010. They're going to fight. It's unhealthy if they don't tbh. And they're such good friends that they solve it straight away everyone's just made a massive deal out of this
squishy yoongles exactly as long as they resolve it. I have fought with my sister millions of time but we always love each other. It’s the same with bts
most mature comment i've read in this comment section. No need for fault-finding. I think the point of this analysis is that we saw how the members fight and how they resolve and reconcile with each other. which is completely normal within friends, within family.
Jin is such a understanding hyung...
It's not a big deal... It happens in family...and sometime these fights make their bond stronger... But seeing Jin controlling his tears just broke my heart... Elder one can't express their feeling .. I can feel that pain😭 but the way they solved the issue and made that a beautiful cute choreo melts my heart... So, this is our BTS 💜💜💜💜
I understand that V just wanted to correct Jin so that they'll have a perfect performance and I also understand Jin's side cause he is doing his best on his dancing and to be on track. V, not realizing his own mistake and talking in that kind of tone and expression might have hurt Jin's feelings and ego because he is older. Although he is not using his authority and always jokes around, I personally think that his dongsaengs should not forget that he is their hyung. The stress and pressure might had affected their feelings and judgment. But kudos to Jin for apologizing first for it was the right thing to do at that moment.
i know its been over years ago but can i share my thought on it... i think in some way tae did realize his mistake that's why he tried to bring up the matter even if the concert will start in next couple hours. idk if in some way tae didnt manage to convey it correctly (cause there is a lot of cut being done we really can't be sure about it), but i think in this momment there is a part of tae that ask jin for help... like what happen before there will be a time when tae messed up the choreo and at that momment he want jin to cover him and be on his back cause if you realize tae choreo is kind of complicated and he need to move fast and change movement from A to D in a seccond. but then again maybe before tae bring up the talk there is something that happen before, that bring down jin mood and upset him. that's why as soon as tae bring up the matter jin already act defensive, its understandable though. they must be tired and had a lot of stress regarding the performance. but then tae also frustrated to be heard and want to at least get his mind shared trouhgly, thats why he get so frustrated the momment jin appologize because that mean they need to closed the matter while his oppinoin hasn't been conveyed for a good shake, and there is somepart of him feeling so little because jin being so big hearted man by aproach the appology first while he (tae) keep on pushing the matter... well i love the fact that they still had control of themself and have a respect for each other even if the situation got heated and it was even before their performamce... imagine how stressfull that can be... they are indeed really amazing.💜💜💜💜
I think that it’s down to miscommunication. No matter how much older or younger s person is, it shouldn’t stop them from speaking up if something is wrong. I’m not really blaming either tbh.
Jin is so much more humble. He never imposed the authority of being older...Sometimes being too good can hurt more
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
And Tae even said that this fight made them even closer😍😍😍 And now these two are inseparable 😍😍😍😍 I love them... and the rest of BTS
I love both tae and Jin. But tbh this was taes fault. Jin was trying his best and he was trying to explain that he was doing his best but no one listened to him. Instead they carried on criticising him for his dancing. Jin was doing the best he could and it only happened because tae moves too far forward. I feel bad for Jin although the rest of the group made sure both of them were okay, I feel like they paid more attention to tae. Jin is the oldest and he has to hold in so much. Everyone assumes he’s okay because he’s the oldest. I feel like tae kinda overreacted by crying. DONT ATTACK ME I LOVE BTS SO MUCH AND I LOVE ALL OF THEM. but I feel like if anything it should’ve been Jin crying. They should’ve paid more attention to Jin and taken care of him more. I fell like they all went to tae more. He has so much pressure and they’re just criticising him even tho he’s trying his best. My little babies are all perfect tho. I love them
I always apologized first even it’s not my fault 🥺 my respect for Jin is increasing each day because he apologized first as a older brother even it’s not his full faults
It’s just misunderstanding between Jin and V so I won’t be blaming on them 💜
My Bias is Jin but
I love all the 7 💜
I’m not solo stans I just had a bias 💜
Jin dont worry, we (true armys) love you. Dont hear solo stan or haters. You are so kind, humble, love your brothers, not only has handsome face. Sometimes, you are too kind and can hurt your heart😞💜💜 Glad you made up with Taehyung💞
I❤U Jin your a true big brother for Tae
화해하는 방법도 방탄 스럽다...
맏형인데도 먼저 미안하다고 사과하는 우리진....
참 쉽지 않은일인데...정말 그릇이 큰 사람이다💜
I also love how you explained the fight and analysed it.
fair distribution in mic drop! Me2
Jin said : Sorry but Jin not fault 😭 Jin is the best ❤️ I love Jin most ❤️Humble, Intelligent, called Human#Jin❤️😭
Jin wasn't wrong either but...I think he took up a good step to apologise ..... To not to ruin the performance for the Army... ... ....
that the video didn't acknowledge
I'm so proud of JIN as the eldest hyung..but he is the first one to say sorry.. down to earth.. so humble..👋👋👋
jane yumul
Yes, even though it was not his mistake and RM had said they could not say who was right and who was wrong, Jin immediately stepped up to apologise and say he was wrong. That was VERY BIG of him as in their culture, the eldest is to be respected. He put his pride and ego aside just to placate Tae for the good of the group.
Tae has a very big ego. People say Jin is narcissistic but it is actually Tae. He once said that the group needs him and without him they cannot do anything. That is true but then every member is equally important and they cannot do without any of them. It's just that nobody would actually say it aloud like he blatantly did.
But having lived together for so long they know and love each other so much that they are able to forgive each other and move on. The way they solved the problem was very adult and mature. They are true professionals.
But I cannot watch this without also saying that I thought jimin overstepped his boundary to come out in the middle of Jin and Tae talking to actually tell them to stop. Jin was already sore at being disrespected by Tae and here comes someone else to disrespect him again by bossing him around. Jimin likes to think that he's the social worker or counsellor of the group but he does not wait to be asked. He just pushes himself in people's face. In this case, he should not have stepped in. Only RM, as the leader had the right to step in but even he did not. I really wish that Jin had not listened to jimin and had told him to go away because they were still talking. He did say to stop butting in, though which was what jimin was doing. He really had no right to take over RM's position. He is not the oldest, neither is he the leader but there he was telling the eldest to stop their discussion!
I know many Jimin stans are going to go like Oh no, our mochi is just being his angel self. He is the kindest, sweetest blah blah blah but be objective. If you are a male Korean and the oldest in a group that you've taken care of like a mother, you are not in a particularly good mood and you are disrespected twice in the same night by the second and third youngest in the group, how would you feel?
Everyone be honest here and ask yourselves, if it was RM or Suga, would any of the younger ones dare to talk to them the way they talked to Jin that night? Yes some of you may say Jin should not allow them but Jin is not the type to scold. He would just say What would people think of you if they saw you disrespecting me? He expects them to check themselves and know their boundaries.
Yes this video is about how they approach problems and solve them but we cannot help but look at HOW the problem came about too. And this is just one obvious one. How many other times did Jin get scolded by the younger ones that we don't know about? There was the one I saw where they were in an elevator and Tae was scolding Jin who looked resigned to his fate. There were staff as well as the group members in the elevator but did Tae care? He does not have the decency to do such things in private. He just does not care about giving Jin any face. Especially since he now has many fans, he has really gotten big-headed. For me, if a person is good-looking, can sing and dance well, look very stylish doing it, and has a 'cute' personality, he is a ZERO if he has no manners or consideration for the feelings of others, especially his elders.
@@oliveoyl1802you said everything i wanted to express.since English isn't my mother language .you are so right.spot on.been wanting to point this out but i always got bash from other taejin or Tae stands.its too bias to accept that no body is an Angel each or them must have flaws.i saw that elevator clip on tweeter it was posted on April 21th just before fansign when tae still has blue or green hair.he was rude towards Jin but tae stands defend him like always.i my self taejin shipper but i love Jin and felt his struggle dealing with Tae and JK.only jimin the magnae who respects him.to be honest best dancer in BTS in Jhope but since JK is good-looking and as their golden magnae so JK is the get the center position.he dance well but not as the same level as Jhope.we all know how showbizz works the good looking be at the front liner .but Jhope is down to earth and if you see Jhope in other clips he also corrected and gave advice to Jin ( i must admit Jin isn't a born dancer but he is a great and fast Learner but dancing isn't for everyone and it's not easy) and Jin gave respon and Jhope respects Jin's reason and no issue at all.it's so different than the way Tae brought up the issue.i love BTS i just don't approve on how Tae and JK take advantage of Jin's kindness and humbleness .also i try to feel how Jin's must have felt on Tae being The Most Handsome man in the world while the original concept in BTS is Jin the worldwide handsome.i honestly don't like to rank someone's looks .it's not fair for the other members despite their talents.to me they all handsome and talented.and another thing how cud tae did this to jin who supposed to be his close buddy even got paired as Taejin.and maybe Tae forgot how Jin was there to cheer him up while Army passed him during fansign on debut era.how ungrateful Tae is.i am disappointed
NightOwl 75
Yes. Thank you.
For me I don’t really subscribe to the idea that you have to be totally submissive to someone just because they are older than you but I do believe in the general rule of just respecting one another. Tae, JK AND Jimin are ALL guilty of being outright rude to Jin but their stans think they are just being cute.
The maknae line stans are just like their biases. RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL BIRDS OF A FEATHER!
Yet they have the audacity to call ME disrespectful for saying their biases are disrespectful! They do not know that I used to be OT7 and liked them ALL as a group but as I watched them more and more, I got disappointed at the younger members. They are SO MUCH YOUNGER and INEXPERIENCED than Jin yet they act like they know better than him. Suga is only 3 months younger than Jin and actually knows more than Jin in terms of life experience because of what he went through compared to the sheltered Jin. Suga is also better than Jin in the entertainment business as he has the experience of being a rapper, songwriter and producer yet do we see him lord it over Jin? He could if he so wanted but even the Tsundere Suga knows his place according to their Korean way. I can’t get over seeing him stop talking when Jin tells him to. I feel uncomfortable for him at those times but I am at the same time full of respect and admiration for him for being able to contain himself and his feelings. It shows his mental strength more than if he were to outright confront Jin for telling him off. HE, of all of them could yell at Jin if he wanted, but does he? No he doesn’t. Neither do any of the others in the hyung line. I don’t know if they do it privately and if they do, that’s perfectly alright. That’s the way it should be done - PRIVATELY!
I watched the guys arrive at the Lotte Family Concert venue and noticed how Tae walked straight from the car to the building without turning towards the screaming fans to his left like his team members who had waved and bowed. This is what he has become, proud and arrogant. Yet his stans will come up with some excuse for him. You wait and see.
My friend, who likes Tae, commented that he looked glum and unhappy to perform that day. Yet nobody called him out for being unprofessional and letting his emotions get in the way of giving his fans a good time. My friend was quite disappointed in him and is seeing him for the pouty spoiled brat that he is and that’s why I am friends with her, because she knows right from wrong and doesn’t BLINDLY give her devotion to people who don’t deserve it.
Tae’s fans probably think his s**t smells like perfume!
Happy girl
Jimin is full of a sense of his own importance because people like you enable him.
He should have let the 2 have as much time as they needed to do a proper closure instead of coming in part way and telling them to wind up. The others had all left the scene to give them that privacy & time they needed. If anyone should come out to say enough is enough, it should be RM the leader. It would be easier for Jin to take it from the lesder, NOT another maknae.
Jimin is just lucky that Jin is the kind of nice, humble guy who doesn’t totally expect the maknae line to observe the Korean seniority rule. Any other person would have chewed him up good instead of just saying ‘stop butting in’ which was all Jin said.
Jin was already upset about being ‘disrespected’ by Tae, a 95er and here was Jimin, another 95er to boss him around and tell him to stop with the closure? WTH is Jimin?
You are EXACTLY like your bias! A BOSSY KNOW-IT-ALL! WTH are you to tell me if I can be in the fandom or not? After reading the comment sections of the many different vids I’ve watched, I’ve noticed a pattern of maknae line stans who think they are the fandom police and can decide who gets or doesn’t get to be in the fandom. WTF gave you that right?
I used to be OT7. It’s people like you, claiming to like all 7, who started OBVIOUSLY showing so much love and support for the maknae line that have made me want to balance things up by supporting the hyung line. Most especially Jin, the most bashed-up member.
You PRETEND to like all 7 but you GUSH over uour bias like he is the only one who exists in the group. You think I’m stupid?
And guess what? Even PARENTS have their favorite among their children. I’m guessing you are not one of them. I can see why.
Sorry not sorry.
P.S. Put your $ where your mouth is and support the
group in a way that matters. I may fight for Jin in
comments section but I fight for the WHOLE
GROUP in terms of votes and tickets to shows
etc. Don’t get me started on the thousands I’ve
spent on their merchandise! I may be only one
person and therefore very insignificant but every
person counts in the survival of the group. Do you
really want people leaving the fandom just
because you’re hurt that your bias was dissed?
TYPICAL maknae line stan!
With the number of other groups coming up
and taking many people away as THEIR fans,
BTS needs every fan they can keep.
You don’t care about THAT, do you, fake OT7?
Happy girl
You need to change your name cos u ain’t no happy girl. You are Miss BOSSY BOOTS for telling people if they qualify to be in a fandom or not. You are so typical of the kind of fan who think they are BTS guardians telling everybody to be mindful of their feelings or else get out.
BTS themselves know that they will be nothing and nowhere without their fans. But they need REAL fans that call them out when they’re wrong. Especially when the intention is to make them better people.
BTS do not need fans who are so blinded to their faults and treat them like God, following their every word. I mean I’ve been environmentally-conscious before it became fashionable and I laugh at how people who didn’t care before are now ‘saving the earth’ because their bias wants them to. OMG! Don’t they have their own minds and consciousness? Are they puppets? But I’m happy because what they’re doing is positive and a step in the right direction. I just wonder though. If these same fans or people who are like them ever fall for someone not as pure as BTS, would they also blindly do their bidding to please them?
I bet if your mother, who carried you in her womb for 9 months and suffered through labour for you, were to tell you to stop spending so much time or money on BTS, you wouldn’t listen to her as you do BTS. Wouldn’t you be considered disrespectful then? Would she tell you to get out of the family?
Get real, HAPPY(?) GIRL. And don’t throw 99% or any other figure at me from whatever poll or survey you would have conducted(???)! I don’t care if 100% of people are against me. I am stull SPEAKING MYSELF!
There are many people who write about BTS members whose behavior they don’t agree with but people only jump at me and troll me. But I understand that too. COWARDS and BULLIES will find the safety in numbers and beat up on people who dare speak out. The difference between you and me is if I were to meet the 100% of people against me FACE TO FACE, I would still stand my ground.
So go ahead, HAPPY GIRL. Continue to make yourself happy.
Just don’t do it in my face.
I mean also, poor Jin, sweetie is trying his best to improve and grow in the dancing department and he’s really working hard, so when he thought he was getting hate for not doing his part properly of course he feels hurt. 💜💜
to be honest i hate analyze videos but u made an exception to me
your analysis was soo professional , clear, understandable
and u pointed to somethings i never get attention to it
also always when i hear thing about their argument i feel like people overreact about it bcs i think it's normal if two people disagree with each other
they aren't an angels after all
and sure they had a lots of this argument before
but this time you managed to bring me a good memory about their argument
so thank u for your good work
Thank you for your kind words
I feel so sad for jin...so heartbreaking I just cry for him..we love you jin so cheer up..💘💘💜
I love the sincere and cute smile in SeokJin face when Tae gave him the first finger heart while changed the choreo for first time, he was adorable and Tae was so sweet!, I love the way they get over all of this and show us how they love each other.
Thanks a lot for your great vid. :)
Jin, though he's visibly hurt demonstrated restraint, maturity, graciousness. I'm glad my Bangtan grandkids resolved the situation amongst themselves, all is forgiven. If more of us can learn from BTS, it will be a better world.
Reading the comments I really don’t understand why people are discussing who’s right and who’s wrong here. It’s not our place to take sides in their arguing, and it’s also something that’s in the past and well resolved already. Bringing it up while taking sides would only be hurtful.
Yes! Say it louder! 💜 :)
I hate seeing our boys fight but I am glad that they made up 😊 and changed the chereo
I hate seeing them fight too, BUT I'm glad they show it because it shows that they are human too. Incredible but human. They truly are really good role models for hard work, determination, brotherhood, dedication, and communication. I love them so much it hurts. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I love Jin most ❤️ Jin is the best ❤️❤️😭😭😭😭
I dont want to defending both of them cuz im not there to see it, and im not them so i dont know what they feel, and im not the one that has responsible to judge them,, but the important thing is "fight" is a normal thing that often happen but we all know that "fight" make them closer and closer
So stop blaming Jin or V okay?? You guys didnt even there to know what really happened.
This is why I like jin...He’s so humble. He could have got angry but still was composed...V is still a kid I guess
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
Pinkamon exactly
jin trying his best to be good dancer and best hyung
Jin lower his pride to say sorry to tae..and im crying..i really stan a good man😭, ..i love you jin❤
But i noticed after taejin fights they are now close even more❤
i'm so proud of jin because even it's not his fault, he apologized to tae aww 🥺❤️
BTS Jin is always humble in his own ways. He did his best that he could in their dance choreo . He works hardest for him not to be left behind and to prove to those criticizers that he can get it all through however hard choreos might be. I love him. A hard-working man. BTS FOREVER!
I think it s natural for them to have a little fight sometimes, they won't be human without it ^^ the most important is everything is okay now ❤
I never watched so many spring day clips on rewind but today i noticed that Tae's part is a bit difficult. He has to run back stop in front of Jimin and jump and then go sideways behind jimin in just split of secs.
May be that is why he was extremely worried about choreo and got carried away by his emotions.
Jin did his best to run fast in the problematic concert but it wasnt enough to give Tae enough time to do his steps.
But i am so proud of the way they solved it.
I live in a hostel with my friends and throughout 4 years nothing big happened but if we were a bit like them maybe our first big argument wouldnt have ended with disappointment and tears.
We overcame our fight as well but it took us 3 months to be back to normal again.
Yes, it was like he needs to sprint, stop & turn back to another direction. If any of them missed their spot, they could easily bump with each other.
This is nice
love u bts 🙆🙆🙆
@Aratrika Ray He wasn't trying to cover it up... He just didn't realize he made a mistake. He is only human. Stop bringing him down every chance you get.
@Aratrika Ray So you're saying that Tae started the argument knowing that he had made the mistake and was trying to blame it on Jin intentionally? Why would you even think/assume that? Tae loves Jin more than you ever could, he would never do that, so stop spitting lies. And for fuck's sake stop pretending to be OT7, just admit you hate Tae and leave.
@Aratrika Ray You start by saying that you didn't blame it all on Tae and in the next sentence you say it was all his fault. Lol make up your damn mind and for the last time he made the mistake of going too far but he didn't realize it. Basically what I'm saying could be metaphorized as if Tae was driving a car, got distracted and hit Jin. You're saying he saw Jin and sped up the car to hit him. There's a difference. Now could you stop dragging Tae under every comment and just bury this? It's been years, Tae felt guilty and that's why he cried, and he later apologized, isn't that enough? Like jesus, let the man breathe...
I know how they both feels. Tae just wanted a perfect performance. While jin was disappointed to be blamed even he has done his best. They ended up fighting to stand their point. Jin then say sorry try to make the situation less intense but tae was still mad and couldn’t stop showing his emotions. Tae shouldve pretended to be okay after jin say sorry even tho he’s still mad, just like how Jin put aside his pride and say sorry even he still been thinking its not his fault.
Exactly what my mom also said and I agree
Agree
If Tae wanted a perfect performance he shouldn't have messed up, Jin had to try and cover more distance than time allowed because of his mistakes. Stop blaming Jin.
looking at this... I m so proud of Jin... he is really nice.. love you from India
Sme
Hyung will always understand
Hyung will always love
Hyung will always care
One of the reasons why Tae loves Jin the most 💜
i still find it so sad that jimin, while he said tae was in the wrong for being disrespectful, thought that jin should have done what tae said in the first place. i love u jimin but jin is doing his best and in this situation, in terms of the actual core of the problem: the run, was not his fault at all. jin even had to speed walk to tae to reach him at the correct beat.
First of all, Tae could not know how far he reached because he was facing back, Jin could not complete beats on time because there was huge distance between them. There was clearly a misunderstanding. Both of them made a mistake. Both of them resolved and said sorry, so we shouldn't even fight in the first place. Many people bring up the fact that how Jin's feelings were not heard but both of them were hurt. It was kind of right for Jimin to say that Jin should have ran faster, because when you have already covered that much distance, you cannot go back, and the only option left is to run faster. But Jin was also right when he said he ran as fast as he can, because in the choreo he cannot start running unless Tae gives him a signal.
In short, the choreo was messed up and Taejin changed it for the better.
@@aditiballal2591 Tae was hurt because he felt that jin was brushing off his concerns which is definitely valid. Where did I point out that Tae voluntarily went further. I did not. He also accidentally went farther than intended which made complications for him and jin. I only pointed out that while Jimin commented on Jin's choreo mistake, at the same time he didn't point out Tae's choreo errors which wasn't really fair. Yes this fight was years ago and theirs no point talking about it but lol you can't really force people what to say or what not to say. It's just an observation.
I love how mature Jin was in this situation
"Its just a matter of stepping back a little" -jungkook
태형이는 리허설때 해결해야될 문제를 굳이 카메라가 돌고있을때 삿대질을 하면서 진에게 고치라는식으로 말을 했을까... 카메라앞에서 계속 몰아세우면서ㅠㅠ
seokjin it was not your fault and we stand with you,you are really great that you apologised first tho it was never your fault.
even if the members didnt comfort you,we know you are the best, an angel that no one deserves.
All member comfort him
@@kinnporsche2329 where?
@@waeeva5330 go check, dont being solo stan
@@kinnporsche2329 but you didnt tell where they comforted him🥺 im army..borahae💜
Jin, we love you.💜
Its just make me sad seeing someone innocent and try his best was blamed over and over esp in quite a rude way and then the one who got blamed apologized first, what a beautiful soul is that. I cant imagine how hurt Jin hearing and facing that time to time. Tbh, he never do mistake in stage at least its soo rare to see him doing mistake, instead the other are but still Jin is the one got all the blame. Ik theyre joking sometimes but what Jin feel is the other way🥺
Im crying...
@@瑪莉安-y7c I'm crying too
But tae didn't want to hurt jin he just want to improve their performance 🥺
Can't agree moore 🥺
I think that jin was the right one. Taehyung went too far away, so he couldn’t have put it all on jin for not making it. It was also taehyungs fault.
Taehyung should also apologize after jin apologized.
the apologies could've been off camera, they don't have to show us all the happenings in their life.
you must be not understan about the situation. its because when tae talk serious about coreo, jin make fun of it (you know jin right he's always joking) and he's joke in wrong situation. its confirm from RM when they talk together. when someone make fun of you in a serious situation, I think I am going mad too. its logic if jin just said yes in what tae said to him and the problem can be solve but in that situation his joking about that and than tae got mad and said something rude. and who's fault ??? who's gassoline the fire ?
@@goldenxyoon702 your update so late...... are u new army ??? Btw, my bias is JK and I am not a kid
@@esterdream7032 i dont get it why jin must say yes ? It is the same as he admit that he is wrong, that he run slower, that he must run faster. As you can see in the video jin really did run as fast as he can. And it really is not his fault, v is the one who is walk more far than usuall. Why he must agree that he made mistake? I would defend my self if someone acuse me wrong if i'm sure i am right. By your logic is when jin said he already trying the best , v should stop arguing. But i wonder why you only mention that jin must say yes to v request but not the other way around.
the funny thing that they made a beautiful memories from something was their argument reason before
they soo beautiful💜💜
Jin's heart glasses got me screaming and laughing 😂🙇
Tae reaction is best representation of ROTFLMAO. XD
BangtanMyBangtan true he looked so cute when he was laughing 🙇🙇🙇
i think that time maybe jin cried . .look at him face . .red nose . .
One thing I like about these two's personalities are the ability to say what they want, whether or not it will hurt the other people they are talking to, y'know, it just sounds so real. That's not my personality, cuz I am just on a Jimin type of level that as much as possible I don't want to say something that can offend the other person. TaeJin and their free personalities are admirable.
누가 잘못한것은 없음
다만 태형이가 먼저
정말 정말 부드럽게
더 지혜롭게 웃으면서
아닌듯하며 형한테 말했으면
진도 접수하고 부드럽게
대응했을텐데. 지민이가
말한것처럼 막내라인들은 형임을 잊지않는것이 중요한것같다. 방탄들이
마음이 많이 여리고 착해서 여기보이는
상황들이 아주 심각한것이
아닌데도 눈물흘리고
마음들이 불편해한다.
옇튼 갈등해소과정이
참 훌륭하다.
무대나 무대뒤나
밝게 사이좋게 서로
사랑해주는 방탄의 모습은
진짜다.
I feel bad for them
fights are normal in relationships etc
Why are people going at each of them
Jin is my ultimate bias and seeing this hurts me
I’m not taking sides
The fact that Jin apologised straight after is amazing and it shows they do love eachother even when they do fight
Fights are normal in friendships.
Fights amongst friends and siblings are normal. Let’s leave it them to resolve their issues. We just need to continue supporting them.
That's okay. Fight can make the relationship getting stronger. And now we can see how tae-jin is clingy each other now just like glue 😁 tae is really love his hyung. Same as jin too
Like Suga said its normal that they are fighting. Because of it they become more closer and understand each other. They live together almost 5 years (when the fight happened). They are like siblings. Siblings fight sometimes but you become closer and love each other.
they live together for almost 8 years
@@Alexandra16062013 I said when the fight happened.
Oh it's true, i'm sorry ;)
@@Alexandra16062013 its ok✌️
Seeing Jin sad made me tear up😭. He is also going through so many things that we don't know.
Ohh i thought im the only one see those..i mean i have been checking all videos of bts esp interviews and vlive..he seems happy and smiling but it seems hes been suffering from something and crying pain inside...hope im wrong coz i love all bts i dont one any of them hurt...they are so precious and deserves all happiness and love ..
im still confuse . .why other people always blame jin . . ? ?
Not all. For me this is just a misunderstanding from both of them.
Because Maknae line have too many solo stans and they think Seokjin is just good for nothing... JK idk 😂... But fr Seokjin breaths and they give him de*ath th*reats for the whatever reasons 💀
@@viewer325 Nah. You need to expand your ARMY circle & look carefully at these solo stan. Some of them are actually antis or just join ARMY to create drama. Most ARMY I know are beautiful people who adore all of them even if they have specific bias. And you need to differentiate destructive solo stan & appreciative solo stan.
Appreciative solo stan will hype their bias & may mention what are being unappreciated. Nothing wrong with that.
Destructive solo stan will focus on what negative things being said about their bias & then turn on other members. So careful not to fall under that.
BangtanMyBangtan what i really wanted to say that i was just talking about Seokjin Antis here because Maknae "Solo Stans" and Haters really have been attacking Seokjin for past 3 years now. i wrote i what i see generally with solo a/cs on Twitter. I used to follow Jin's Solo a/cs and found out honestly they are really dumb and just constantly victimize him in some way or the other.
He kinda mad the situation a lot worse by ting to joke about it.
This is my opinion of the argument: Tae shouldn’t have started pointing out flaws of Seok-Jin’s dancing because Jin is sensitive when you talk about his dance abilities. Also Jin is 3 years older than Tae and in South Korea you should respect anyone older than you otherwise it’s extremely rude. Jin kept on telling Tae ‘I can’t do it that fast’ ‘I can’t do that’ ‘I’ll be off beat if I do that’ he said he’s trying his best but the way Tae told him was rude but in an argument your rude and don’t mean to be. Tae told him 10 minutes before they had to get on stage, so he timed it wrong because Jin wouldn’t have enough time to work over it. I believe Tae was in the wrong but I understand where he was coming from but the way he said it was rude and Jin kept on saying he’s doing his best. If Jin finds it harder to dance that well than Tae has to know that Jin isn’t as advanced as Tae is. Jin wanted to be the bigger man as he apologised first but Tae had really made him lose Dance confidence and pride. Jin said after ‘I know you see me bright and happy all the time but I’ve been really depressed and I just want to be positive for you guys’ which really broke my heart knowing he only smiles for the people around him. But what annoyed me is that no one comforted Jin, the Bighit staff saw that so they comforted Jin when the members didn’t. Jin hasn’t made a mistake on stage yet he is called a bad dancer that’s why he is sensitive when talking about his dancing abilities. This is my opinion and it’s no hate towards Tae, Jin is my bias and Tae is my bias wrecker.
I think in the same way because jin really try his best danceing and he never get encourge for this it was awrong time to talk that time and tea even cried after thefight maybe he felt bad talking like that to jin espcially jin was theone who apologised first but days pass fast they was and still thebest friends in bts my bais is hope but teajin is some thing i really love so much they are my friendship goals
This whole argument is flawed because Seokjin provoked V by not taking him seriously.
@@joditamara5360 Well it’s not entirely Jin’s fault. They both messed up.
@@joditamara5360 it's in the past now they are really close but jin that time said sorry because he didn't take tea's talk seriously he just wanted to keep every thing positive befire the stage time let's move on this is old
@@gentlyyhaven Regarding the argument it was Seokjin's fault because he not only didn't take him seriously but also provoked Taehyung anger. If he wanted respect he should've respected him as well.
That time they argue and look at them now. How close they are. How beautiful their bonding is now. Tae prepared a video of birthday wish for jin.
Jin was so happy to see that.
They are family they can fight anytime...this way their bond grow more stronger💜💜💜💜💜💜💜..im happy bcoz of this fight they changed the choreo n gave more sweet moments💜
this was really hard for me too watch. Especially as there were some parts cut out which means its more heated than it looks. ON camera we see them having fun, playing around and being goofy but since they are together most of the times this was just an example of how it looks or even worst behind closed doors.
and this isn't the right time to be saying who's fault is who's... Weather its jins fault or taehyungs that really shouldnt matter. And they just needed to communicate. its not just the fact that jin needed to run faster but taehyung needing to take smaller steps but not to far and not to close. They both made a mistake and that happens
In this situation, tbh I feel bad for Jin...whether its V or Jin who was at fault, V still has to remember that Jin is older than him...in some ways, Jin admits and apologize quickly showing how good he is as a Hyung...
Yes the maknae line need to learn to respect Jin. Theres so many examples but ill just state one with tae. Rmb the kimchi bts run episode when jin is trying his best to squeeze the kimchi, but tae was shouting and show unhappiness at Jin, even rm show respect to Jin. These are the tiny tiny things. I mean i love tae too but they just need to not take gentle Jin for granted.
I understand both side and I think that both are wrong and right at the same time.
When you get bad reviews, you feel bad and need to defend yourself. Jin must have felt wronged because for him, he was right and he really was. But I think that what angered Tae maybe, was the way he took it ? I know some people uses humour to hide their pain, but when you are trying to do something serious and you feel like the person in front of you isn't taking you serisouly, it's so baaaad. Personally, it makes me so mad and I always end up crying because I feel like a joke to that person... So yeah, it might be what threw of Tae and as for Jin, the way Tae talked to him... It was a little bit harsh, but at the same time, who argue while singing with rainbows coming out of their mouths ? lol
I see some comments here defending only one of them.THEY BOTH WERE WRONG OK.everything is solved now so just love them ,actually the 7th of them...
This fight make them more closer like in DNA Jin hug V
For everyone who fights in those comments... Its already happened 2 yrs ago & they are going good now...
All ends well, they loved each other more than anything!
The other videos about it made us depressed but this was really good it explained it very well and at last made us smile too,with their amazing bond. Thanks for the video!
The ironic thing is, they fought during the lyrics part “you know it all, you’re my best friend” - I CRIED OKAYYY
It's not about who's right and wrong it's about the ARMY. BTS always want to give their best to ARMY. I think Taehyung didn't mention this thing in rehearsal he must have thought that it was because the stage was big. But if you see that episode, you'll find RM and JIMIN talking about their part also So it must have made taehyung to talk about it. he didn't have thought that it would be fight. And if you see from the start Taehyung and Jin are more close to each other than other. Jin was right on his point about being fast. Because both wanted best performance for the team. You see the pressure at that time was too much, they had to go on stage and they had to get rid of issue but somehow the situation didn't seem okay. But it's good to fight. This tells us that BTS are normal people and they are not afraid to tell people that they do make mistake but fir them they try to mend them too.
In the end, you see they realize that they made up and talk about their issue.
Also There are a lot of people saying taehyung did it for camera attention. He doesn't need to get camera attention. If you see he had been always shy from camera especially when it only focuses on him. And criticizing Jin is not a good thing.
I think SPRING day still today is known to be their song and they always make memories out of it, even it's their favorite songs.
Just an opinion
👏👏👏💜
I was actually pissed by the burn the stage video, I thought it was unfair for jin , but your video managed to subdue my anger m you are talented ~
Heart KimSoekJin And i dont want to think that BH is being unfair to jin coz it makes me soo sad 😔😔😔 just hoping for the best to jin, coz he is a wonderful man inside and out ☺
I LOVE u jin😘
Well, Taehyung took small steps but the problem is the other members moved a bit far from V when he was to take those strides which made a long gap between them and Jin was really fast there so the blame goes to none. It's just misunderstanding and y not? V couldn't see that he was way too far from the others members although it's not his fault. Jin knows he ran as fast as he could which he did..... If there is supposed to be blame then others members are to blame as well coz they moved and made their position a bit far away from V. They work really hard and this reflects from this fight. They couldn't handle a simple mistake which means they always try to not make any mistakes and provide us with well-organized performance. Thanks to these hard-working people for their efforts and setting up an example of perfection.
Our Bantan Boys 💜
They are human 😭😭😭😭😭😭
But always make good resolution 💔💔💔💔💔💔💜💜💜😭😭😭
Omo my JINNIE is so humble T_T
Even though Jin is my bias but I still want to say please don't hate tae guys. Every artist is sensitive before their concert so that is why tae said those stuff cuz he wanted their performance to be perfect. And when they were making up after the concert tae even cried and I think he cried because he regretted having that fight with jin. Also jhope once mentioned that tae and jin became umseparable after the fight.
Yeah jin is also my bias but don’t hate tae for this
Jin once acknowledged in interview that he knew Tae was a generous person early on by the way he treated Jin when Jin was insecure & unhappy.
I see this situation as to why it became a conflict despite minor mistake on the choreography is because of two reasons: 1) v's title in the group and 2) jin's relationship with the members. So hold on to your seat belts because this shit's gonna be long
So, starting off with v's title in the group, not only bts, but us armys refer to him as "alien" because he often do things unusual, his words formations doesn't make sense, or mumble weirdly to himself, and yes, we don't refer to it as something negative but rather, cute. However, this became the reason why the members oftentimes don't take him seriously because they don't find what he say or do makes sense so they either just laugh it off or ignore it. Now, playing a role on this quarrel, we obviously see tae so pissed as he mentioned the problem and he probably do so because he thinks the members doesn't take him seriously because despite the conflict in the choreo that they need to fix, jin initially didn't take it seriously/ joke about it(which I don't blame jin for because there's also other factors not shown in burn the stage like personal problems they might currently holding or mental stress, etc.) So it probably add to tae's frustration regarding the situation.
Now on to jin's relationship with the members. So, as many of us know, respect is a huge thing in korea(not just with older people, but people with high social status or positions) and as we know jin's relationship with the members, we know the maknae line just throw it off, especially jungkook lmao, and we see this as cute and funny while jin just smile and laugh along when it happens because he might also feel the same. But for everytime it happens, of course he also feel bad for being disrespected like that considering he's the oldest. And we even notice the hyung line giving more respect to jin probably because they also want to receive the same as they are the "hyung"s of the group. So now, relating it to the subject, we see jin initially joking/ not taking what v said seriously because he might felt bad thinking he's not being respected with v talking to him that way telling him what to do despite him already taking precautions and acting on a solution. And as we can hear him mention when they talked alone, he often get depressed, and laughing and joking is his way to get out of it and to lift members as well. So for v to act in a way, it must have hurt him that cause him to act the way he did that worsen the problem. However, Jin still take the first step and apologize to tae even though it's not his fault. V, however, is still visibly mad because of what I already mentioned, not being taken seriously, thinking jin only did that to recognize his whine and to end their argument which also made him cry knowing jin's side
And there you go, those are the reasons and whys to why it suddenly become a big deal despite resolving it by just taking a simple adjustment to the choreo. And post disclaimer, these are just my opinions based on my observation, how I know them and my knowledge about bts
And jungkook got upset when jhope asked kookie to pour water for the hyungs because suga was doing it. To me all the hyungs are extremely nice to the younger members, do not havr the usual korea culture of respecting the hyung(is the biggest) . This tend to happend because gentle jin, who didnt set a typical hyung to the others thus they become all like "same age friend" . Which is ehy they are closer and funnier compared to other kpop groups. But yeh i still feel bad at times seeing them bully or disrespect jin tbh.
@Private TaeJin i agreeee
comments like these add fuel to the fire. it’s so tiring seeing people call maknae line, especially Jungkook, “disrespectful” because of the way they interact with jin. seokjin is naturally very playful, he’s the youngest in his family and he gets along with jungkook especially well. they act like brothers & they clearly love each other a lot. people who go off on tangents about jungkook being “disrespectful” have clearly never had a relationship like them before. jimin teases yoongi and no one calls him disrespectful. they all tease joon and no one calls them disrespectful. remember that one live of jin just talking about raising jungkook and he’s suddenly like “this is making me miss jungkook, bye i’m gonna go see him” they love and admire each other so much. jungkook respects the hell out of him, teasing someone when you’re both laughing together isn’t disrespectful. jungkook isn’t a bratty little kid, he knows when to shut up and be mature, don’t sell him short.
maybe people who call them disrespectful in humorous situations have no sense of humor or friends or siblings, maybe all of the above, but it’s really just the normal way young people act with each other. just because seokjin loves to act childish with them doesn’t mean they don’t respect him. hoseok (i think it was him) cringes and calls him childish, no one thinks he’s a disrespectful kid for it. jin/jungkook have one of the most wholesome, genuine, familial bonds in bts so idk where people get the idea that them bickering (as yoonmin do) is somehow jungkook not respecting jin? maybe people just need a reason to dislike maknae line or something, but that’s a dumb reason to. jin has never once said a word that would indicate he feels disrespected by their jokes. do you think if he hated it he’d constantly initiate teasing with jungkook?? why would he always start those situations if he felt less than afterwards? he always laughs along with them. jungkook is a respectful asian man who was born and raised in korea, he knows the rules surrounding elder respect much better than you do.
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The best hyung eveeeer💐💐💐
It's understandable and ironically, you're most likely to get into fights to those people you're close with. They are still two different people no matter how close they are, i feel for jin being the oldest and disrespected (though tae is unaware) his defense mechanism kicked in and later on tried to lighten up the mood through jokes to the point tae got angry because he felt jin is not sincere.. But hey, without this kind of arguments they will not know what they mean to each other and learn how to read between the line.. They've a new reason to appreciate what real family is..
It is okay too bickering. It means they are closer to be real brothers not just friends but real family.
I feel like Jin also couldn’t express himself as in he couldnt explain what had happened because i do believe that V went too far out but we as the audience could see that clearly but Jin could not explain that but oh well it just goes to show how BTS overcome such issues that if not sorted could lead to bigger problems.
Exactly
인간이기 때문에 싸움도 있습니다,하지만 JIN는 중요😉👍
I think this situation made Jin and Tae understand each other more better. I mean look at them right now.. They're more closer than before. I think it's also a misunderstanding instead of a fight. Taehyung wasn't satisfied with Jin's performance, but we all know that Jin tried his best, but that doesn't mean it's already Taehyung's fault. Taehyung probably wasn't in a good mood too. I'm an OT7 stan so I don't wanna choose sides on who's more right and who's more wrong. I'm so thankful that they handled this situation really well and amazing.
yay, when i saw this i didn't know what moves they were talking about and i wanted to see the actual performance but i thought i wouldn't find it bc idk much about them, i didn't even know they were talking about spring day, i thought they showed that part of the choreography for dramatic effect lol. this is awesome, and you even added other performances, thank you so much. and i thought i understood the argument but the details and what may be missing made me understand it better.
Its okay now
They are super sweet and loving to each other.
And they are my ultimate ship^_^