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The European countries you mentioned with free tuition also have less expansive admission requirements, a much narrower model of college life, and often overlooked, less income inequality, better social support, and much higher unionization. In the US while college remain the gateway to great rewards, that is in large part because we do not compensate those in non-degree jobs well. This means that debt forgiveness and free tuition inherently is subsidizing higher earners and leaving others behind. Subsidizing our current high cost educational model will come at the expense of broader equality unless much broader changes are made.
Alright... I'm going to say something that I'm SURE will get some ire. I'm not saying it to make people angry or anything. I just want say it because I hope it makes people see the world a tiny bit differently, and hopefully give insight to how some people view certain topics. Minorities ARE greatly affected by many of the things mentioned in this video. But I am a white person that grew up (and still am) SUPER poor and I faced many of the same challenges in my life. I am certain being a minority comes with its own set of insanely unfair challenges, but socioeconomics needs to be examined closer. There are SOOO many variables besides just Gender and Race. Maybe it's because these issues affect the poor, and the poor are made up of more minorities than whites? I honestly don't know because I'm not an expert in the field. But having grown up super impoverished, in a poor town, in a poor area, I can say with certainty that it affects poor white people too. And I've seen a lot of people from my region become VERY spiteful when they hear people say "it affects minorities more" when they are struggling to survive. While not intended in this manner, many of these people interpret this as "You're white, so your suffering isn't valid." So the next time you hear a bunch of poor white folks mad at a bunch of poor black folks for simply trying to be treated fairly, this is a strong reason why. They feel like their suffering is being brushed off, because they are white. I'm absolutely certain it's harder for minorities, but if you've ever wondered why so many poor white folks seem to hate when people when discussing these issues, this is a strong reason why. I just wanted to be sure and bring this (flawed) way of thinking to people's attention. Anger, even when irrational, still feels VERY real/valid to the person afflicted by it.
Whether or not college is worth it depends on what one's degree is in. If I had it to do over again I would have pumped the brakes after I finished my basics and realized I didn't want anything to do with more school beyond my BA. 20 years out of college and I've yet to hold a job whose skill actually requires a degree at all let alone my degree.
Indeed! Haven't we heard of people in high society circles who professed to go to Ivy League schools yet did not have a degree? One or more presidents, even? *cough* Bush Jr. *cough*
This Post-Covid/economic crisis/continued rise in college tuition world is not the first of its kind. I've known of people in the early 1980's who needed to get into college on early admissions for technicalities. (Me included) A friend of mine wasn't able to enter straight into University, so she went to Community College for a while and then transferred to University a little later-I think a semester later. My mom told me of a guy she knew who didn't get into medical school directly (I think in the 1970's). He worked at a hospital as an orderly, and the following year he got in with a little of life experience under his belt. There is no reason college can't be put off, especially if there's something else you like that you can make money at, too. Trade schools come to mind. Programming, too. These days, I understand that being a RUclipsr or other content creator can make you money, too. Just be careful of money pitfalls. Minors' income is part of taxable household income technically belonging to the head of household. I've known of a middle school kid who had "built a better mouse trap" and was selling her product or service and making a large amount of money to go to college back in the 1970's. The IRS came knocking and demanded a large chunk of it, and it devastated her. Other sources stepped in to realize her dream of college, but the hit to her funds hurt, still. One thing I've found that should be required in high school for everyone is business: money movement in the world and where to look things up. And what the IRS requires.
How about transferring all that tax money from the army to make school and education free? Man, if we only had politicians who were young and not stuck in the old ways
Education is one of the few things that capitalism can't do right. If you want equal chances for every one, then the cost shouldn't be an entry barrier. Especially if you believe in the american dream, that every one can succeed in life only on their own merit. (It has never been the case anywhere, but we can try to get closer.)
I think you should rephrase that with “college education” Education in the west is largely accessible to everyone. You undervalue the amount of educational content provided by multiple free sources in this modern era of technology not to mention the large and growing catalogues of public libraries in America. Of course the high costs of high education is a growing effect of capitalism, but you just can’t label every issue as the fault of capitalism and offhandedly use it as the central cause to the high cost of college as well as presumably the barrier to all types of education.
@@jmsunday My comment assumes the reader has watched and understood the video it is under. And that the reader is able to work out the details. However, I would argue that online or freely accessible content is just not the same. As a teacher I'd guesstimate that half of the knowledge is in the interaction with the teacher. The teacher's job is to spot the misconceptions and fix them. Use different ways to explain the same thing depending on the students. Some people can learn by themselves, but they're a minority in my experience. Plus, on the politics side, I believe that it's your country's job to ensure that everyone can get the best education they can. It's a matter of common well being.
@@Ceelvain I would agree in part of education being a right to the individual. However, I would say that, although I agree on part of the quality of free education being not up to par with formal education, it is still nonetheless education. Everyone has their own capacities and we obviously ought to take that into account. But in a world where education is largely free and for the taking, I would argue that it really is dependent on the individual’s willingness to go the mile. Minority or not, the potential to be great is there.
It takes time to pay all the student loan debt. Some companies like The Walt Disney Company would pay 100% for Disneyland cast members' tuition if they attended specific colleges or universities. It is called Disney Aspire Education Program.
DEI staff makes little sense as the cause of high prices. We get an itemized bill for student fees and DEI, technology, sports, library, only costs ~1.5k a semester whilst tuition is 5-8.
Can you provide me a source in regards to the demographics in loans and debts. Gender and race has become more “equalized” in the years past. But in some cases, it perpetuates enough to give an unfair advantage in the name of equality. Curious about that statistic, I would like to see the source of the specific data of where you state the disadvantages by race and gender.
Like Syndrome said, when everybody is special, nobody is. Likewise, when everybody has a degree, nobody does because just like with supply-and-demand, when there's a surplus of college-degrees, demand goes down, and they become worthless. There are countless people who go to college not for the education but because they think it's a party (and treat it as such). Those people are diluting college and screwing up "the curve" by helping to make a degree worthless for nothing. 😠 8:17 That CNN headline should've a college degree makes $30,000 more than a high-school diploma ON AVERAGE. There are MANY college/university grads who don't benefit from their degree at all, who may as well not have gone to post-secondary at all because they can't find a job in their field and are now saddled with a large student-loan debt. Don't get me wrong, post-secondary has benefits other than just the degree, but unless it's free, those self-improvement, social, and other benefits just aren't worth it for most people if it means owing tens of thousands of dollars. You'd be better off just getting those benefits in other ways that are cheaper or even free. The worst part is when people are self-taught and learn stuff from channels other than college/university but can't benefit from it because they don't have an expensive piece of toilet-paper to prove what they know because employers demand it. 🤦 On top of all that, zoomers don't even see the value in a post-secondary education because most of them want to be RUclipsrs or Twitch-streamers or Instagram influencers or OF "models" and such. (Not to mention the general anti-intellectual sentiment that zoomers seem to have. 😒) So the post-secondary boom might be over. 🤷
What do you think is the best solution for making college more affordable in the U.S.? And subscribe so you can get notified every time Myles drops a new episode!
The European countries you mentioned with free tuition also have less expansive admission requirements, a much narrower model of college life, and often overlooked, less income inequality, better social support, and much higher unionization. In the US while college remain the gateway to great rewards, that is in large part because we do not compensate those in non-degree jobs well. This means that debt forgiveness and free tuition inherently is subsidizing higher earners and leaving others behind. Subsidizing our current high cost educational model will come at the expense of broader equality unless much broader changes are made.
Alright... I'm going to say something that I'm SURE will get some ire. I'm not saying it to make people angry or anything. I just want say it because I hope it makes people see the world a tiny bit differently, and hopefully give insight to how some people view certain topics.
Minorities ARE greatly affected by many of the things mentioned in this video. But I am a white person that grew up (and still am) SUPER poor and I faced many of the same challenges in my life. I am certain being a minority comes with its own set of insanely unfair challenges, but socioeconomics needs to be examined closer. There are SOOO many variables besides just Gender and Race. Maybe it's because these issues affect the poor, and the poor are made up of more minorities than whites? I honestly don't know because I'm not an expert in the field. But having grown up super impoverished, in a poor town, in a poor area, I can say with certainty that it affects poor white people too. And I've seen a lot of people from my region become VERY spiteful when they hear people say "it affects minorities more" when they are struggling to survive. While not intended in this manner, many of these people interpret this as "You're white, so your suffering isn't valid."
So the next time you hear a bunch of poor white folks mad at a bunch of poor black folks for simply trying to be treated fairly, this is a strong reason why. They feel like their suffering is being brushed off, because they are white. I'm absolutely certain it's harder for minorities, but if you've ever wondered why so many poor white folks seem to hate when people when discussing these issues, this is a strong reason why. I just wanted to be sure and bring this (flawed) way of thinking to people's attention. Anger, even when irrational, still feels VERY real/valid to the person afflicted by it.
You didn't mention Germany. No tuition. Just a semester fee from 150 to 300 euros.
College is expensive because of government loans.
Whether or not college is worth it depends on what one's degree is in. If I had it to do over again I would have pumped the brakes after I finished my basics and realized I didn't want anything to do with more school beyond my BA. 20 years out of college and I've yet to hold a job whose skill actually requires a degree at all let alone my degree.
One of the reasons that women carry more educational debt than men is because they have higher educational attainment.
We do mention that. Especially Black women - proportionately.
Indeed! Haven't we heard of people in high society circles who professed to go to Ivy League schools yet did not have a degree? One or more presidents, even? *cough* Bush Jr. *cough*
6:56 what is midnight for life?
Is sexism and racism stronger in the US or why does it sound that different to me in comparison to Europe?
This Post-Covid/economic crisis/continued rise in college tuition world is not the first of its kind. I've known of people in the early 1980's who needed to get into college on early admissions for technicalities. (Me included) A friend of mine wasn't able to enter straight into University, so she went to Community College for a while and then transferred to University a little later-I think a semester later.
My mom told me of a guy she knew who didn't get into medical school directly (I think in the 1970's). He worked at a hospital as an orderly, and the following year he got in with a little of life experience under his belt.
There is no reason college can't be put off, especially if there's something else you like that you can make money at, too. Trade schools come to mind. Programming, too. These days, I understand that being a RUclipsr or other content creator can make you money, too.
Just be careful of money pitfalls. Minors' income is part of taxable household income technically belonging to the head of household. I've known of a middle school kid who had "built a better mouse trap" and was selling her product or service and making a large amount of money to go to college back in the 1970's. The IRS came knocking and demanded a large chunk of it, and it devastated her. Other sources stepped in to realize her dream of college, but the hit to her funds hurt, still.
One thing I've found that should be required in high school for everyone is business: money movement in the world and where to look things up. And what the IRS requires.
How about transferring all that tax money from the army to make school and education free? Man, if we only had politicians who were young and not stuck in the old ways
Education is one of the few things that capitalism can't do right.
If you want equal chances for every one, then the cost shouldn't be an entry barrier. Especially if you believe in the american dream, that every one can succeed in life only on their own merit. (It has never been the case anywhere, but we can try to get closer.)
I think you should rephrase that with “college education”
Education in the west is largely accessible to everyone. You undervalue the amount of educational content provided by multiple free sources in this modern era of technology not to mention the large and growing catalogues of public libraries in America. Of course the high costs of high education is a growing effect of capitalism, but you just can’t label every issue as the fault of capitalism and offhandedly use it as the central cause to the high cost of college as well as presumably the barrier to all types of education.
@@jmsunday My comment assumes the reader has watched and understood the video it is under. And that the reader is able to work out the details.
However, I would argue that online or freely accessible content is just not the same. As a teacher I'd guesstimate that half of the knowledge is in the interaction with the teacher. The teacher's job is to spot the misconceptions and fix them. Use different ways to explain the same thing depending on the students.
Some people can learn by themselves, but they're a minority in my experience.
Plus, on the politics side, I believe that it's your country's job to ensure that everyone can get the best education they can. It's a matter of common well being.
@@Ceelvain I would agree in part of education being a right to the individual. However, I would say that, although I agree on part of the quality of free education being not up to par with formal education, it is still nonetheless education. Everyone has their own capacities and we obviously ought to take that into account. But in a world where education is largely free and for the taking, I would argue that it really is dependent on the individual’s willingness to go the mile. Minority or not, the potential to be great is there.
It takes time to pay all the student loan debt.
Some companies like The Walt Disney Company would pay 100% for Disneyland cast members' tuition if they attended specific colleges or universities. It is called Disney Aspire Education Program.
Yeah when you are in school, you're always told how important a good education is. However, why they don't tell is how EXPENSIVE it is.
I like the idea of making employers contribute towards the cost of educating their employees.
DEI staff makes little sense as the cause of high prices. We get an itemized bill for student fees and DEI, technology, sports, library, only costs ~1.5k a semester whilst tuition is 5-8.
Did the GI Bill help minorities after the war?
here's another solution. stop voting for more government funding (especially in student loans department)!
Can you provide me a source in regards to the demographics in loans and debts. Gender and race has become more “equalized” in the years past. But in some cases, it perpetuates enough to give an unfair advantage in the name of equality.
Curious about that statistic, I would like to see the source of the specific data of where you state the disadvantages by race and gender.
I woulds like to see how much of that "equality" is hiked expenses for everyone.
Like Syndrome said, when everybody is special, nobody is. Likewise, when everybody has a degree, nobody does because just like with supply-and-demand, when there's a surplus of college-degrees, demand goes down, and they become worthless. There are countless people who go to college not for the education but because they think it's a party (and treat it as such). Those people are diluting college and screwing up "the curve" by helping to make a degree worthless for nothing. 😠
8:17 That CNN headline should've a college degree makes $30,000 more than a high-school diploma ON AVERAGE. There are MANY college/university grads who don't benefit from their degree at all, who may as well not have gone to post-secondary at all because they can't find a job in their field and are now saddled with a large student-loan debt.
Don't get me wrong, post-secondary has benefits other than just the degree, but unless it's free, those self-improvement, social, and other benefits just aren't worth it for most people if it means owing tens of thousands of dollars. You'd be better off just getting those benefits in other ways that are cheaper or even free.
The worst part is when people are self-taught and learn stuff from channels other than college/university but can't benefit from it because they don't have an expensive piece of toilet-paper to prove what they know because employers demand it. 🤦
On top of all that, zoomers don't even see the value in a post-secondary education because most of them want to be RUclipsrs or Twitch-streamers or Instagram influencers or OF "models" and such. (Not to mention the general anti-intellectual sentiment that zoomers seem to have. 😒) So the post-secondary boom might be over. 🤷
Does private colleges encourage quality due to competition? Or is that a myth. Why public college do perform well when compared with public
Good research to pursue.