Playing from the sidelines
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Caroline Roper, Ella Hubber and Tom Lum from 'Let's Learn Everything!' face a question about a furtive footballer.
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HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
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You've *GOT* to add a video of the bit from the beginning of the show where everyone talks about the red-shirts shenanigan. It's *hilarious.*
Which episode is this on the podcast?
I hope they make that too. It'll probably be a short, like when Tom sang the Major-General's Song
@@robertjarman3703 the most recent
Even better than that, Tom Lum posted this pre-recording chat: ruclips.net/video/-r1h5ZamXcg/видео.html
@@lateralcastthis was out in the world for 6 months and no one even noticed.
Tom I love the new Lateral uniforms that you’re making everyone wear
I can't believe all 3 guests were just Tom Scott on this episode
This episode feels like it's from a parallel universe where everyone's default shirt colours are just red and it's never questioned once...
Cuz Tom Scott.
Maybe it was Toms birthday when recorded? 🤔
I heard the bit from the start of the podcast and had to come see, slightly disappointed that theirs are more bright red than his more wine coloured one.
it's the jersey of their fave aussie rules team!
@@peema10 gotta appreciate the fine attention to detail
The guests with red-shirts turning their webcams on for a reaction while Tom's internally contemplating his life choices when the realization hits him.
Tom Lum posted a clip of Tom Scotts reaction on his channel. Lateral commented with a link to it under a comment
Which Tom?
@@AltonV Would you kindly post a link to that? Thank you darling.
Lmao at everyone's red shirt
It's like citation needed all over again!
Next time, they should up their game and find the exact hue that Tom has.
@@blindleader42 That would be extremely hard to do, as they would also need the same lighting, cameras and settings. The same red shirt can look different if you just change any of these three.
@@hebl47 Nah. The hard part would be finding out where Tom gets those shirts. That's the only way you're really going to match the color.
As for the lighting. Three different RUclipsrs in different setups, and the shirts look close enough to identical as makes no difference.
I love that Tom is a Bois Boy. His sport documentaries transcend enjoyment of the sports. They're just great stories about interesting people playing games.
Love how Tom Scott mentioned Jon Bois during a question about a story that SecretBase (formerly SBNation) has already covered. You love to see it.
Been fans of both forever, knowing Tom watches him is amazing
THANK YOU! I was wondering why I already knew this. I could've sworn Lateral was redoing a question
I love when Lateral and Secret Base Overlap. It's happened quite a few times. The Scorigami question that came up on Lateral a while back was fantastic.
Basically Australian Rules Football was invented as a way to keep cricketers fit while outside the cricket season using the cricket ground and it's main parent in terms of rules & gameplay is actually Gaelic Football
And is the first football game with delineated and published rules.
To translate this history into something nerds would understand: Australian rules football is the Magic the Gathering to cricket's Dungeons and Dragons.
@@EinDose I'm some other kind of nerd and I just learned something about Magic the Gathering
I was imagining very muscular bugs at first, wvich seems fitting for the Australian wildlife
Aussie here! The penalty of setting the score back to zero, especially late in the game is even bigger than at forst thought, as scores in Aussie Rules Football can reach 100 (or more) with some frequency.
Imagine getting that penalty late in the 4th quarter
As a richmond supporter, lately they don't get anywhere near that for us :(
Ok, add Jon Bois to the growing list of people I would love to see on here.
It’s funny you mention Jon Bois - I first heard this anecdote from a different SB Nation show, Weird Rules
Bring back Weird Rules/That's Weird!
Australian football rules: In the last quarter, a teammate is allowed to run into the stands and perform a thunder from down under routine. The amount of dollars they are tipped in their Budgies gets added to the clock with a 15 minute maximum. Classic Australian past time.
Amount of DOLLARYDOOS.
@@bradygrumpelt7140 Did you get that from watching Nasaspaceflight?
I (quietly) wooed when Bois was mentioned. I genuinely took hours out of my life during an exam just to read 17776. It was a 24 hour at-home exam during Covid years, admittedly. But still. I just couldn't stop reading, it hooked me so completely and I NEED to read the sequel at some point.
It's a red herring! Focus Soldier!
I love when this group is on. They have such a good spirit.
A brilliant video. This team are very good at working together. Get this set of guests back
I had this happen during a game I played during university. Unfortunately our captain was on the ground when he should not have been, so after the headcount was called our entire score was wiped out, and with it our chances of winning! In retrospect I should have just made a break for it.
Awesome to see the love & admiration of Mr. Bois amazing work. Scoragami is one of my favorite things. 😊
Tom was SO CLOSE bringing up Jon Bois, here! 😂
Not sure where else to suggest this, but I would love a couple of Lets Learn Everything and Answer in Progress crossover episodes, and of course a (episode 100?) Tech Diff special.
of all the eps to wish for full video of, it's the one where the guests troll tom by dressing like him lol
Secret Base did an episode about this rule
To clarify the rules (as they were in the 90s through 10s, I don't know about the older rules when this happened, nor more recent although I doubt it's changed much):
--- spoiler alert ---
Running off into the crowd doesn't officially count - you still count as being on the field. Only players leaving through the interchange area count as leaving. The umpires (especially the goal umpires, since they have the widest view) watch the field from when a head count is called to spot anyone leaving the field, so that they can still be included in the count. If they managed to leave without anyone noticing, they might get away with it (like in this question). In a high-level game, the video footage would be checked.
A head count is called by a captain or acting captain, not a coach.
If either team is found to be over the allowed number of players:
- the other team's captain (or acting captain) will receive a Free Kick from either the centre circle or where play was stopped, whichever is a greater penalty to the offending team.
- a fifty metre penalty is then applied.
- the offending team's score is reset to zero. (Yes, this is still the case, as far as I'm aware. It was certainly still the case in the late 2010s when I last umpired.)
If the head count shows that both teams have the correct number of players:
- the captain (or acting captain) of the team which didn't call for the head count will receive a Free Kick from either the centre circle or where play was stopped, whichever is a greater penalty to the offending team.
- a fifty metre penalty is then applied.
- if the umpire believes the head count was called to waste time, the captain can be reported.
6:50 You missed an obvious opportunity…. Bueller… Bueller…
Why are you here? I''m here for the subtitles that read "Laughts squekily" at 6:58
Look It's Tom Scott, Tom Scott, To Scott, and Tom Scott
Bonus fact: It wasn't a case of someone just not noticing there were too many people on the field. Specifically, a player was injured and needed to be carried off. The replacement player came on while this was happening, someone drew the attention of the other team's coach to it, who then called for the headcount, at which point the people carrying the injured player off put him back down on the field so he could be counted. If you watch some team sports today, you'll see when players are being replaced, even if they're injured, the replacement player will be careful not to enter the field of play until the player they're replacing has crossed over the line and left.
Tom Scott x Secret Base collab when?
Oh, my bad, I thought they weren't loading.
Oh my goodness the captions: _(laughs squeakily)_
I'm Aussie, I have no idea of the answer, but my first thought is "It's Melbourne, in spring, he went to the pub and they had to hold the game while he finished a few pints" 😆
Why was it just 4x tom scott today? Why no guests?
Spoiler Shield
As an Australian, who enjoys sport, this video hurts me
I thought the one in the red shirt was funniest.
The Tom wearing the red shirt
I’m expecting one of them will eventually show up with a Tom Scott VTuber avatar.
2:00 There's no official pronunciation, so I've seen people pronounce the title as either "two-hundred-twenty", "twenty-oh-twenty", or "twenty-thousand-twenty". Personally, I say it as "two-hundred-twenty".
Was there a uniform for this episode or something?
It was international red day
The guests pre-planned it to prank Tom Scott
Oh i get it - cos he always wears a red shirt
I wanna watch the hypothetical Jon Bois video on this story. It would be a 3 hour banger for sure
I presume there's a 'too many players on the field' penalty in Aussie Rules, could maybe that extend to the number of players on the sideline as well?
This is yet another one that I knew instantly because of SBNation.
The John Bois story Tom Scott is alluding to is 222-0, when Georgia Tech thoroughly obliterated Cumberland College in the greatest blowout game of football that was ever played.
Probably my favorite episode of Pretty Good, which is saying something when there’s so many other great ones.
Nope, he's done a couple long-form football-centered stories about the bizarre forms of football in the very distant future. The first edition is "17776" and the second is "20020". There's a planned third edition coming.....sometime. Hopefully.
When Tom mentioned Jon Bois, I expected he was going to reference the "Every NFL Score Ever" video, because nerdy stats.
I think he referenced it in the video about the random Cardinals-Texans game that filled in the 31-5 scorigami box, come to think of it.
I think it's a reference to 20020, a sequel to 17776, both of them are Jon's text-only stories
Tom was so vaguely close bringing up Jon Bois as well, cause he's a creative director at SB Nation, and they had an episode of Weird Rules about this very incident
The Join Bois name drop got me geeking
4:07 Tom you're going to cop some backlash from Aussie rules fans for this (including me), that's Rugby Union's lineout.
The Aussie rules one are better (a specky), the player jumps over someone else's back (preferably an opponent), uses it as leverage to reach higher and catch the ball!
I'm glad someone else thought that Tom was talking about Rugby Union, which is also played in the UK, France, etc. Definitely a favoured university pastime here in Oz.
Are your guests cosplaying Tom Scott?
i don't think i ever had any interest in team sport ever before, but this sounds like such an enjoyable sport to watch
Full contact sport with no body padding, and as mentioned in this clip, frequently using other players' shoulders as a springboard to leap extra extra high to catch the ball.
AFL is such a supreme display of raw athleticism that no other sport even comes close to. Over the course of a match players typically run 10-14 KILOMETRES.
(And if you're someone who enjoys ogling men, hooooooo boy, you're in for a treat! Short-shorts and tight sleeveless vests as far as the eye can see 👀😳)
Look up some highlights here on RUclips or over on the /r/AFL subreddit!
Why did they edit all the shirts to look red?
First guess: did someone dare him?
I agree with the red shirt
After all the rules described in this episode alone, Aussie rules football sounds like blernsball from Futurama.
My first thought was too many players, cause that's a notable rules violation that's happened a few times in NFL games. First time I got the answer without any clues/guesses.
My first thought was the opposite, running off to be one player too few so time would be stopped to allow for drawing up a play or something similar.
He calmed down the crowd and prevented a match cancelation?
The Tom Scott cosplay 🤩😘
I was gonna ask if he was DARED to do it?
Got this one from the start, it is a strange rule.
Tom Scott watches/reads Jon Bois? Didn't think he would be enough into sports for that.
Non-sports-fan here: 17776 is one of the best and most unique things I've ever read.
I'm here just to see the red shirts 😂
Jon Bois can spend 90 minutes on the current crisis of the shortage of people named "Bob" in professional sports. The guy is a genius.
He did it on a dare.
Initial thoughts: I won't even try to first guess this one. But I will remark on the Lateral things going on in this question. The year could [be] only the year of the rules. "Australian" may refer, once again, only to the rules. The actual match could well have been in Cuba in 2020, or whatever [else].
Now the guess: maybe he was using himself as a reference point, a target, a guide, giving important information back to the team by being up and above in the stands. Could be so to provide info to a newer team playing by old rules (some markers/lines/layout missing or not the same). Could also be a kind of loophole that those old rules allowed; (Sorry, I'm not into football) like no "kickoff/throw" advantage on penalty if the opposing team is one player down?
In any case, that name is great, Dare "challenge" the Norm! The Norm Darer!
4:40 Norm was in the stands to make a quick entry into play? Like for a long kick/pass to the other side field, or perhaps a surprise play? Along the lines of being outside the play area, in the stands, was the quickest/shortest/stealthiest way to insert him into play, instead of having to come from the team's bench?
Results: I had my mind in the right region, but quite the way backwards. Nice one!
Aussie Rules football is closer to Gaelic Football than it is to Rugby.
Red shirts!
@jonbois is required to be a part of this in the future. There is no alternative.
Ella is so lovely 😅
Redshirts... oh no
Are they all wearing red on purpose?
Laserpointers in 1975?
They switched to playing Tommyball, after all, this is Australia.
Just here to watch everyone in red shirt
Ah, it's all that Vegemite - makes 'em Krafty . . . : )
Where's the comments?
Before I realized it was rugby, and still thought it was football (soccer) rules, I thought it was a switch-in situation, where a player was ready to be swapped in to help score a goal, but the player he was trading in was far away from the actual swapping area - and my guess was that maybe Australia hadn't specified that players need to swap in a specific location, so he just took off to the nearest exit, let the other player in, and they scored a goal.
I'm sure it's something far more interesting than this, but my first thought is there were too many players on the field.
Too many players? An Alabama football player famously got off the bench and tackled a Rice player to prevent his scoring a touchdown in the Cotton Bowl in 1954. The Alabama player's famous quip? I was “just too full of Alabama”. PS The officials awarded Rice the touchdown because even when Alabama is playing only 11 players are allowed on the field at one time.
I believe the penalty is still the same, offending team reset to zero. Oh and Aussie Rules is much closer to Gaelic or International Rules Football (not soccer) rather than rugby, but using a much larger rugby shaped ball rather than round like Gaelic.
So he quit playing football and started playing hide and seek?
You should have added -Scott on everyone’s last names on this one
I'm never quite certain when talking 'football' what game is being played. Gridiron? FIFA? Some version of rugby? Not that I understand any of them, but the layer of confusion stack deep.
a knife fight has more understandable rules than Australian rules football.
I found it quite disrespectful how Tom talked over the top of Caroline there.
If video is to be believed, the story is even carzier: ruclips.net/video/FCp28zzO6Pw/видео.htmlsi=NyoW9eQMgh6F6yGQ&t=204
I'm Australian, but more of an NRL fan than AFL. First guess is: can you take a mark even if the ball goes out of bounds?
To the brits: AFL is actually more like soccer than it is like American football. You're still moving all around the field, trying to keep possession and get field position, with the aim being to kick the ball into the goal. The difference is that you're carrying the ball instead of dribbling, and the goal is upright goalposts, rather than a rectangle.
Oh damn. I've actually heard this story before, but completely forgot about it...
Wrong football in the thumbnail.
"I only meant to offend Americans" but you already offended us by the time you compared it to Rugby. I thought you were about to say Gaelic football, but no. I'm pulling a suss face when saying it got its DNA from Rugby (Union? coz most of the country plays Rugby League) and especially gridiron, which I'm pretty sure had zero influence on Australia … but what would I know, I'm not into sport at all and only know enough to know it's bizarre down under. The only "football" I follow is FIFA so I can take a 3.9 year break every 4 years.
The combination of Caroline’s headphones and chair make her look so much like an old school nun.