Beautiful looking build. I have been riding a stock dinghy blunt for a few months and contemplating building my own complete. Not sure if you’ve ridden the bear 130’s that are standard, but how do you like the Indy 109s? I thought about getting Indy 129s. I know the mids are the same height as the bears, but wasn’t sure about how far back the hanger went and if the wheels would align with the cutouts. Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks - I appreciate it! I haven’t ridden the standard bears, only RKP bears on a LY dropcat, which I liked. They are decent trucks for sure. I went with the 109 Indys because I like the look plus the turn of an Indy truck is just great in my opinion. Height didn’t matter to me, as the wheels are quite big and I knew I wouldn’t be low to the ground anyway. You could just leave out the risers or go for Indy Mids. I did ride a set of Mids (159) on my normal setup (10” SC Winkowski) and the turn just wasn’t as good as a normal Indy. Might just be my perception, but I care less about 1,5mm more height compared to the better turn. Indy Hollows or Titaniums with the forged baseplate are definitely my go to. You can for sure rock 129s on the Dinghy, just make sure to match them with wheels that aren’t as offset / wide as the hawgs so they don’t stick out too much on the sides. Either way - mix and try out, that’s the way to go :) I hope this helps!
Hidden Leaf sure, if you want to make it a bit more stable maybe. The Indy 109 trucks are only marginally wider than the bear 105 trucks and with the hawgs wheels there isn’t much of a difference. The deck is 8” wide afaik, so go for anything that feels good for you. Maybe not over 8,5” wide trucks, but that’s up to you!
They turn great, as any Indy basically. They do feel slightly different because if the big soft wheels and also because they are higher off the ground due to the riser pads. I added harder bushings, because of my weight and preferences, but other than that nothing special. Keep in mind that they are very narrow and I only picked them because I was going to use wide and off-set wheels!
i did the mixed hardness risers like you but i was worried about wheelbite and soft risers losing height when clamped down. so switched to half inch hard riser. i thought handling might be bad, but was great actually
Hi - good question! The reason it that the wheels I used (Fattie Hawgs) are offset (they stick out more to the outside) and generally wider than “normal” skateboard wheels. This makes the whole truck-wheel combo the perfect width for the Dinghy. If you intend to use a slimmer wheel (basically any normal skateboard wheel and not a cruiser wheel) you can absolutely use 139 or 129 trucks. If you are building the Dinghy as a cruiser, I recommend getting nice and soft wheels in size 60 mm or above. Slime balls or OJ super juice wheels fit well, same as some Orangatang wheels. Pick a soft durometer (anything below 90a) and you will be riding smooth like on clouds.
Hi Marco, this is very useful reply. I have a normal skateboard with 139 trucks, will test about it with the ricta cloud 60mm. I definitely want to try the fattie hawgs and will consider a 109 trucks as well! Thanks for ur info!!
Thanks :) in fact, I stuck my 69mm snakes on this board just for fun and they fit well when it came to width etc. I think the 66s will be great and not too big! Remember at least a 1/4” riser.
@@thomasecallaghan1111 no worries! It will absolutely be! With the Indys and riser pads + whee wells, this tiny board is so nimble to maneuver - it’s my favorite mini cruiser. And I can still send it down mellow hills. It rolls super smooth and can keep some good speed!
Hey! Hi! I'm building my own custom cruiser and I'm now at the truck choice. How would you rate these indies vs RKT regarding to carve? I've heard nice things about Indy and their turn but people (longboard people) keep telling me to get bears G6 or Paris.
Hi! All depends on the feel you’re looking for. If you want a TKP truck - Go with Indys or ACE. For RKP go with Paris or Bear, I like Paris a bit better. What size is the cruiser, meaning deck length, width and wheelbase?
@@MarcoEckhardt Hey m8 thanks for the quick response!! Regarding to the feel TBH I don't know! I've ridden both kind of trucks but never felt so much difference (elements on TKP, calibers & bears on RKP). I'd like to turn and ride quick and agile trough streets and people, have fun carving, that's it. We're talking a short cruiser 28x8 inches currently on crappy traditional kriptonics. 20 inch wheelbase.
@@asher2865 anytime! If you want it to be agile and quick turning to get around town, I’d personally go for TKPs. Indys are a safe bet because you can so easily swap bushings to change the ride feel and responsiveness. ACEs are also great, but I’d say they hit a very specific feel, more like a very loose feeling truck. Both are great options - perhaps check them out at your local skate shop. Depending on what wheels you are planning on using - use riser pads and pick the right width for your deck. I hope you build a sick setup for yourself!!
@@MarcoEckhardt I think I'm going for the indys, do you know if the kingpin is replaceable? I'm currently using tall cones from venom and they don't fit on a regular size kingpin. Or what kind of bushings do you recommend for a surfy feeling? I'm riding some big 75x65 mm wheels but I already got wedges and risers to take care of wheelbite. Thanks man I appreciate your input.
@@asher2865 The duro depends on your weight and preference. Indy has quite a range for a TKP truck company. They also have almost all versions also as double cone instead of the regular barrel-cone version. The double cone definitely feely more nimble (I have the black ones in my 109T Indys on the Dinghy). And if none of that works - yeah you can hammer out the kingpin and replace it with a longer one for your Venom bushings. I don’t think kingpin clearance will be an issue for you, as they go on a cruiser. Those are some big wheels - sounds comfy ☺️
Haven’t tried 70mm wheels on a Dinghy, but given that I use 1/4“ risers for 63mm wheels, you’ll need minimum 1/4“ risers for 70mm wheels. I’d probably even go for 1/2“ risers.
Since I mostly just cruise on this board, I can’t give you a very detailed description on the performance regarding grinds and pinch etc., but they are Stage XI Indys after all, so the geometry and materials are the same as in any size Stage XI. Turn is superb (if you love your Indys you’re gonna love these too). I threw my preferred hardness Indy bushings in there (black 94A) but the double cone ones, so it’s even more carvy while still being stable when bombing small hills etc. No clue why only the 109s have T hangers (probably a size issue), but they look great and do the job more than well. For me it was important that they fit the setup and carve well, which Indys always do. Can strongly recommend them, also for other small setups or even a lil bit of slalom practice. Hope this helps!
Jon Cunanan although the Dinghy deck has wheel wells, 85mm Caguamas would be huge and make the board unnecessarily heavy in my opinion. Technically it is of course possible, but to avoid wheebite you would need at least 1/2 inch risers and ride your trucks tight. For a mini cruiser of 8” width and this wheelbase - I personally wouldn’t ride any wheel bigger than 63/65mm. Huge whees also wouldn’t make the board more stable, rather slow and laggy to maneuver. A mini cruiser is usually meant to be quick and nimble around narrow sidewalks and corners :)
Carson Juliot I doubt it. I had to order the deck from the US (I live in Europe), which means after shipping and taxes it was probably 90€ for the deck only. Indys cost 75€, wheels 44€ I think, bearings and hardware about 30€ + risers 10€. Makes nearly 240€. A normal dinghy is 170-180€. But yeah, a complete is usually cheaper...
@@abyyman1671 get the custom feel your after. The stock wheels are good, but I’m enjoying riding on the OJ hot juice 60s. Not a fan of the stock bearings... quickly switched out for Reds big balls. I would be curious to try out the Indy trucks though. I do like the response of the bears though.
I’ve answered this before in another comment. Search it below please - can’t remember from the top of my head. But more expensive than a complete for sure.
Rad but that Andy Anderson board in the background!!! Drooool
Oh! Damn the Indy 109! Oh course!! It is a clear picture. Very nice. Set up very good!
Getting my dinghy relay in the mail tomorrow! I was thinking of doing a video or a review with it but it would probably suck haha 😄 😅
Nah it wouldn't bro do it pls
This is the great and beautiful setup.
Thank you - it rides like a dream!
Sweet ride, I hope to build one just like that, thanks for the walk through
Beautiful board!
Thanks man new to boarding and never had my own custom this helped me build my EVO 40 build 🔥🔥
Glad to hear that man! Now go out there and enjoy!
nice set up
Beautiful looking build.
I have been riding a stock dinghy blunt for a few months and contemplating building my own complete. Not sure if you’ve ridden the bear 130’s that are standard, but how do you like the Indy 109s? I thought about getting Indy 129s. I know the mids are the same height as the bears, but wasn’t sure about how far back the hanger went and if the wheels would align with the cutouts.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks - I appreciate it!
I haven’t ridden the standard bears, only RKP bears on a LY dropcat, which I liked. They are decent trucks for sure. I went with the 109 Indys because I like the look plus the turn of an Indy truck is just great in my opinion.
Height didn’t matter to me, as the wheels are quite big and I knew I wouldn’t be low to the ground anyway. You could just leave out the risers or go for Indy Mids. I did ride a set of Mids (159) on my normal setup (10” SC Winkowski) and the turn just wasn’t as good as a normal Indy. Might just be my perception, but I care less about 1,5mm more height compared to the better turn. Indy Hollows or Titaniums with the forged baseplate are definitely my go to. You can for sure rock 129s on the Dinghy, just make sure to match them with wheels that aren’t as offset / wide as the hawgs so they don’t stick out too much on the sides.
Either way - mix and try out, that’s the way to go :) I hope this helps!
This is exactly what I want to do. Get the Relay but put some wider trucks and adjust the wheels for it.
Do you think that would be a good idea?
Hidden Leaf sure, if you want to make it a bit more stable maybe. The Indy 109 trucks are only marginally wider than the bear 105 trucks and with the hawgs wheels there isn’t much of a difference. The deck is 8” wide afaik, so go for anything that feels good for you. Maybe not over 8,5” wide trucks, but that’s up to you!
Try n keep close to the original specs as u can in my opinion. All the specs have been carefully chosen for that particular ride feel.
How do the Indy 109 feel? Looks fun
They turn great, as any Indy basically. They do feel slightly different because if the big soft wheels and also because they are higher off the ground due to the riser pads.
I added harder bushings, because of my weight and preferences, but other than that nothing special. Keep in mind that they are very narrow and I only picked them because I was going to use wide and off-set wheels!
i did the mixed hardness risers like you but i was worried about wheelbite and soft risers losing height when clamped down. so switched to half inch hard riser. i thought handling might be bad, but was great actually
A while after I found aa set of 1/4” hard risers and put those on as well. Works like it should, although no huge difference to the mixed ones before!
Hi since the deck is 8 inch, why using a 109 trucks but not the 139? I am just curious and ordered a dinghy deck
Hi - good question! The reason it that the wheels I used (Fattie Hawgs) are offset (they stick out more to the outside) and generally wider than “normal” skateboard wheels. This makes the whole truck-wheel combo the perfect width for the Dinghy. If you intend to use a slimmer wheel (basically any normal skateboard wheel and not a cruiser wheel) you can absolutely use 139 or 129 trucks.
If you are building the Dinghy as a cruiser, I recommend getting nice and soft wheels in size 60 mm or above. Slime balls or OJ super juice wheels fit well, same as some Orangatang wheels. Pick a soft durometer (anything below 90a) and you will be riding smooth like on clouds.
Hi Marco, this is very useful reply. I have a normal skateboard with 139 trucks, will test about it with the ricta cloud 60mm. I definitely want to try the fattie hawgs and will consider a 109 trucks as well! Thanks for ur info!!
love the board!! How much did it cost total, preferably in USD.
That’s a bit hard to say - I bought everything here in Europe. I’d guess something under 200$.Iirc it was in total ~230€ in early 2018
Great review! Do you think Powell Peralta Snakes 66mm 75a with the 109s would be a good/better set up?
Thanks :) in fact, I stuck my 69mm snakes on this board just for fun and they fit well when it came to width etc. I think the 66s will be great and not too big! Remember at least a 1/4” riser.
@@MarcoEckhardt thanks man! Hoping it will still be a fun, manœuvreable ride but just roll farther and faster 👍
@@thomasecallaghan1111 no worries! It will absolutely be! With the Indys and riser pads + whee wells, this tiny board is so nimble to maneuver - it’s my favorite mini cruiser. And I can still send it down mellow hills. It rolls super smooth and can keep some good speed!
Hey! Hi! I'm building my own custom cruiser and I'm now at the truck choice. How would you rate these indies vs RKT regarding to carve? I've heard nice things about Indy and their turn but people (longboard people) keep telling me to get bears G6 or Paris.
Hi! All depends on the feel you’re looking for. If you want a TKP truck - Go with Indys or ACE. For RKP go with Paris or Bear, I like Paris a bit better.
What size is the cruiser, meaning deck length, width and wheelbase?
@@MarcoEckhardt Hey m8 thanks for the quick response!! Regarding to the feel TBH I don't know! I've ridden both kind of trucks but never felt so much difference (elements on TKP, calibers & bears on RKP). I'd like to turn and ride quick and agile trough streets and people, have fun carving, that's it.
We're talking a short cruiser 28x8 inches currently on crappy traditional kriptonics. 20 inch wheelbase.
@@asher2865 anytime!
If you want it to be agile and quick turning to get around town, I’d personally go for TKPs. Indys are a safe bet because you can so easily swap bushings to change the ride feel and responsiveness. ACEs are also great, but I’d say they hit a very specific feel, more like a very loose feeling truck. Both are great options - perhaps check them out at your local skate shop. Depending on what wheels you are planning on using - use riser pads and pick the right width for your deck.
I hope you build a sick setup for yourself!!
@@MarcoEckhardt I think I'm going for the indys, do you know if the kingpin is replaceable? I'm currently using tall cones from venom and they don't fit on a regular size kingpin. Or what kind of bushings do you recommend for a surfy feeling?
I'm riding some big 75x65 mm wheels but I already got wedges and risers to take care of wheelbite. Thanks man I appreciate your input.
@@asher2865 The duro depends on your weight and preference. Indy has quite a range for a TKP truck company. They also have almost all versions also as double cone instead of the regular barrel-cone version. The double cone definitely feely more nimble (I have the black ones in my 109T Indys on the Dinghy).
And if none of that works - yeah you can hammer out the kingpin and replace it with a longer one for your Venom bushings. I don’t think kingpin clearance will be an issue for you, as they go on a cruiser.
Those are some big wheels - sounds comfy ☺️
Instructions unclear, my shoe is now a cruiser board.
Have you ever tried 70mm wheels on a dinghy blunt??
Should I need risers??
Haven’t tried 70mm wheels on a Dinghy, but given that I use 1/4“ risers for 63mm wheels, you’ll need minimum 1/4“ risers for 70mm wheels. I’d probably even go for 1/2“ risers.
🤘❤️🤘
T hanger truck review how are they are they different feeling than regualr indys?
Since I mostly just cruise on this board, I can’t give you a very detailed description on the performance regarding grinds and pinch etc., but they are Stage XI Indys after all, so the geometry and materials are the same as in any size Stage XI. Turn is superb (if you love your Indys you’re gonna love these too). I threw my preferred hardness Indy bushings in there (black 94A) but the double cone ones, so it’s even more carvy while still being stable when bombing small hills etc. No clue why only the 109s have T hangers (probably a size issue), but they look great and do the job more than well. For me it was important that they fit the setup and carve well, which Indys always do. Can strongly recommend them, also for other small setups or even a lil bit of slalom practice.
Hope this helps!
@@MarcoEckhardt thanks I wish they made them wider they look so cool and weird
noob here, i wanted to do the same thing. would i be able to use 85mm orangatang caguamas?
Jon Cunanan although the Dinghy deck has wheel wells, 85mm Caguamas would be huge and make the board unnecessarily heavy in my opinion. Technically it is of course possible, but to avoid wheebite you would need at least 1/2 inch risers and ride your trucks tight. For a mini cruiser of 8” width and this wheelbase - I personally wouldn’t ride any wheel bigger than 63/65mm. Huge whees also wouldn’t make the board more stable, rather slow and laggy to maneuver. A mini cruiser is usually meant to be quick and nimble around narrow sidewalks and corners :)
@@MarcoEckhardt thanks for the response, i was trying to see what other applications i can put those spare wheels to.
I want to CHOMP those wheels.
Do those trucks fit on a 8.3 deck ? Thats the size of the one i got
They might be a bit too narrow for that. For a 8,3” deck I’d use 144 Indy’s.
what's the song called?
Nevermore the artist is called PYC and both songs are from them (“Used to know” and “Spark”). Found via Soundcloud.
@@MarcoEckhardt thanks, amazing songs
Did the total cost of this come in at less than a complete dinghy?
Carson Juliot I doubt it. I had to order the deck from the US (I live in Europe), which means after shipping and taxes it was probably 90€ for the deck only. Indys cost 75€, wheels 44€ I think, bearings and hardware about 30€ + risers 10€. Makes nearly 240€. A normal dinghy is 170-180€. But yeah, a complete is usually cheaper...
@@MarcoEckhardt damn what's the point then? Better to buy a complete one
abyy man the point being you can custom it to however you want it’s a free(ish) world.
@@MarcoEckhardt Dinghy completes are like 209€ now
@@abyyman1671 get the custom feel your after. The stock wheels are good, but I’m enjoying riding on the OJ hot juice 60s. Not a fan of the stock bearings... quickly switched out for Reds big balls. I would be curious to try out the Indy trucks though. I do like the response of the bears though.
What was the overall cost of the bulid
I’ve answered this before in another comment. Search it below please - can’t remember from the top of my head. But more expensive than a complete for sure.
Does the deck come with a grip tape
Sam Lol yes it does! Check out the deck for example at daddiesboardshop.
Marco Eckhardt okay thank you :)
What is the tool you use to make it
Okay Vlogz I use a Silver Skate tool. You can get them in most skate shops for about 20€. They are definitely worth the money!
Part of me wants to get the chinese dragon graphic and call it my COVID Cruiser. But the holographics on this board are so tempting...
Mr. Pineapple both are amazing graphics for sure! I picked the relay as I already have the powell peralta chinese dragon (Steve Caballero) 😅
Could do without the thinly veiled racism
@@ashtree8868 That’s where the virus came from sooo 🤷♂️
Building your own is wayyyyyy cheaper
Sauce Tingo lol in my case not bc I had to order the deck separately from the US (I live in EU). But over there I guess it’s possible :)