I work as a train engineer in Manitoba, and with the flooding going on around here this spring, I sure didn't need to see this - but I can't stop watching! Thank you to all section forces everywhere. You guys deserve all the recognition you can get.
I hope CN recognizes you guys for being there and probably saving a train crew from serious injury or death and the millions of dollars it would have cost them. I'm a retired Engineer, I was lucky I never had to deal with a wash-out. I salute you MOW guys, thanks for keeping trains on the rails!
Thank god the CN employees were investigating the high water levels in the area when this happened. I think the CN crew probably saved lives. Great job guys!!!
This is my boyfriends crew, Tommy Miller. He noticed on his patrol that something wasnt quite right with the tracks, he had his crew get out and check the tracks. he let 3 trains go by and noticed that the sides had deep cracks and decided to stop the trains until he fully investigated the situation.
No sooner did he call to cancel ( thats the beeping you hear) and have chris start to take the video of the craks then the whole thing let go. you can see him and byron run to the trucks and move them farther up the rail to avoid being dumped as well. Tom then called an emergency stop to all trains. the washout was 142 ft long, 25 ft deep and 35 feet wide. no one was hurt because tom did his job right and maintianed public safety on the tracks.
I'd like to know one thing, if this wasn't a culvert failure as stated below, where did that water that is now rushing under the main and siding, going before the failure? It sure looks like a culvert failure to me, that led to saturating the subgrade and then came the failure. BUT, it's hard to tell from this video. Will someone who was there answer this question for me? Thanks! Oh, I'm rails also, but not the CP or CN...
@samthegreencat47 From the story that I heard, this crew were suspicious of this section of track for washout possibilities, they radioed the RTC and told them to stop the trains in the area until the track was cleared of danger. The issue of stopping trains was already taken care of by a call to the RTC, so there was no danger of oncoming traffic.
You guys suggesting that he should cross on the ties are nuts. Did you not notice that the one wood tie disappears when he was turned around. The concrete ties with spring clips might hold better, but I still wouldn't trust them!
One last comment about safety. Depending upon where you work, crossing over a washout like that by walking on the ties is a rule violation, not to mention a high risk behavior. I would rather a fellow railroader take the safe course, and get home in the same condition as he left it in. Dumb decisions cost lives.
@coldblue9mm I run for CP in Manitoba, Canada - we're in the middle of a 1-in-300-year flood up here, so my nerves are a little on edge after seeing this vid...!!!
@hitatortot1112 Heh. A C-5 Galaxy - the largest plane operated by the USAF - has a maximum payload of 135 tons. Your average main line train carries anywhere from 4000 to 18000 tons of cargo (not including the dead weight of the cars.) It would take a lot of planes to equate that...
@dano132454 I know for a fact the company is strict and likes to keep it confidential... The video was pretty interesting to watch no doubt about that and I am a huge railfan myself that I have an interest to work for CN but you know the company will do what it takes to cover their ass because a washout makes them look bad.... I probably would have recorded it too but i would have never have posted it on youtube or anywhere online unless i had permission
@saintjohnrailfan Things don't always work out this well. In July 2009 there was a fatal derailment near Rockford, IL. A patrol car happened to record the washout 20 minutes prior to the accident. Unfortunately, they couldn't contact dispatchers who were able to stop the train... The first 40 or so cars were empty or light, but 18 tanker cars derailed. They were carrying a mixture of 95% ethanol and 5% gasoline, and a dozen of them caught on fire.
@coldblue9mm If you look carefully at the video, you will see the river that runs in a horseshoe on the right of the tracks. I'd guess that once the bank on that side was undercut by water and slid away, everything else to the left just followed. You can see trees waving on the left as the new river starts running right to left under where the tracks were.
I didn't even see any water before it started to slide. This is truly one of the most puzzling things I've ever seen. I guess the soil underneath the tracks was already completely saturated with water?
@gavnastyyy This was my first reaction after I finished watching the video as well. I kept expecting the ground to drop out from under him and ending with him standing on suspended tracks or something equally ridiculous.
I have questions. What subdivision did this event occur on? What was the outcome..did the crew drive on out? When did this occur? How many days did it take to repair the section? Where did you find this video?
Hi there. I'm a TV producer working on a series about working on the railroad. I would love to get in touch with you about this video you shot and possible obtain it for the series. Is there a way to contact you?
@hoggerjeff I'm always suspect anytime you have water against a fill. I've been around quite a few railroad washouts and this looks more like the fill liquidified, maybe in the thaw. At any rate, it's good that they stopped traffic before they put one in the ditch. What road are you off of?
it's be at the right place at the right moment,and the best thing,he's CN employee,so it's was report in real time,an getting that on tape....priceless
@JeannieSouza These guys are railroaders. And during something like this, when the ground is falling out under your feet. you say what's on your mind. You can always turn off your volume...
@craizydragon Great stuff, Craizy. Huge respect to Tom, Byron, Chris, and all MOW guys out there--you guys are the unsung heroes who keep the global economy going. So I'm curious, how DID he get back to the hi-railer afterwards? Or did they send one from the other direction to pick him up/have the crew run around the washout on the nearest roads to get him? (I'm hoping he didn't have to *walk* to the nearest crossing, lol!)
Many engineers are very thankful Tom, Byron and chris for being at the right sopt at the right time and definatley avoiding a terrible tragedy. I am very proud of Tom and I have a whole new respect for his job and what it entails.. so next time he calls to tell me hes gonna be late home, im glad cause i know hes doin the job that he loves so much to the best of his ability.....thats the reality :)
@FightTheElite Likely a culvert passing under the track that got plugged with debris and caused a buildup of water on one side. This is just speculation, mind you - but it's a very real scenario.
HOLY SHITAQUA! Talk about being in the wrong place at the right time. This proactivity is what really saves lives on the railroad. So what if there was some cursing? If you were seeing the roadbed give way in front of your eyes, you would too.
@J3110M4N14 What exactly is a hevey fraght? Is that a special piece of on-track equipment CN has? And is that how MoW gets bizey (not even sure what that means either)?
wow, not fun. if it was me, I would have crossed on the side with the concrete ties. rails being clipped in to the ties sould hold alot better than spiked into wood. How did he get acrost the gap anyways?
The guy who posted the video is probably in deep shit or worst case costed his job. You know why? Because when you work for CN it's confidential and they take it pretty serious I know for a fact he broke that policy... I wouldn't be surprised if he got fired for this.... I don't work for CN but I had an interview with them before and part of the agreement is that your job is kept confidential
I can't beleave how big this thing is and how fast it opened up. It looks like now they are going to need to put in a 50 foot span railroad bridge or at least a 20 foot cross box culvert for this so it doesn't happen again.
Hey, how about an answer from one of the gang members on whether or not a failed culvert was the cause. How about it Tommy MIller or one of his "crew" (we still call them "gangs" south of their border). That fill was definately saturated.
1:45 "It's not a fucking derailment but looks like I got overtime hours for next pay". LOL this guy has his priorities straight. Get paid first worry about making it out alive later.
@JeannieSouza ...I stand by what I said. You cannot watch videos on RUclips and not expect some rough language. I don't know where you're from, but it's time for you to leave Fantasy Island....or pop that bubble that you've been living in, OR TURN OFF YOUR VOLUME, OR EVEN BETTER YET, DON'T LOG ONTO THIS SITE!
Maybe next time they will put a decent sized culvert in there. Well, except if they like spending more money year after year, then they will just do business as usual.
I work as a train engineer in Manitoba, and with the flooding going on around here this spring, I sure didn't need to see this - but I can't stop watching!
Thank you to all section forces everywhere. You guys deserve all the recognition you can get.
I hope CN recognizes you guys for being there and probably saving a train crew from serious injury or death and the millions of dollars it would have cost them. I'm a retired Engineer, I was lucky I never had to deal with a wash-out. I salute you MOW guys, thanks for keeping trains on the rails!
Thank god the CN employees were investigating the high water levels in the area when this happened. I think the CN crew probably saved lives. Great job guys!!!
This guy can't decided whether he wants to get closer or farther to it.
Wow. That's great footage. Look how fast that went!
So, a new bridge yeah?
Awesome catch guys! No doubt in my mind you saved a couple lives. I hope CN gives ya some recognition for being in the right place at the right time.
This is my boyfriends crew, Tommy Miller. He noticed on his patrol that something wasnt quite right with the tracks, he had his crew get out and check the tracks. he let 3 trains go by and noticed that the sides had deep cracks and decided to stop the trains until he fully investigated the situation.
Pure life saver right here, this could have been one hell of a disaster
No sooner did he call to cancel ( thats the beeping you hear) and have chris start to take the video of the craks then the whole thing let go. you can see him and byron run to the trucks and move them farther up the rail to avoid being dumped as well. Tom then called an emergency stop to all trains. the washout was 142 ft long, 25 ft deep and 35 feet wide. no one was hurt because tom did his job right and maintianed public safety on the tracks.
Wow! That was incredible, thanks for getting this on video and posting it :)
Great catch! Rails remained electrically intact, so the signals would not have displayed red. When was the track opened?
Wow, talk about wrong place, right time. With the footage, CN and other railroads can see for themselves what happens during flooding on rail lines.
I'd like to know one thing, if this wasn't a culvert failure as stated below, where did that water that is now rushing under the main and siding, going before the failure? It sure looks like a culvert failure to me, that led to saturating the subgrade and then came the failure. BUT, it's hard to tell from this video. Will someone who was there answer this question for me? Thanks! Oh, I'm rails also, but not the CP or CN...
@samthegreencat47 From the story that I heard, this crew were suspicious of this section of track for washout possibilities, they radioed the RTC and told them to stop the trains in the area until the track was cleared of danger. The issue of stopping trains was already taken care of by a call to the RTC, so there was no danger of oncoming traffic.
You guys suggesting that he should cross on the ties are nuts. Did you not notice that the one wood tie disappears when he was turned around. The concrete ties with spring clips might hold better, but I still wouldn't trust them!
One last comment about safety. Depending upon where you work, crossing over a washout like that by walking on the ties is a rule violation, not to mention a high risk behavior.
I would rather a fellow railroader take the safe course, and get home in the same condition as he left it in. Dumb decisions cost lives.
the new cargo bridge on coolmath games is looking intense
WELL DONE GUYS ........ya really did save a few lives that day finding that washout.....
@coldblue9mm I run for CP in Manitoba, Canada - we're in the middle of a 1-in-300-year flood up here, so my nerves are a little on edge after seeing this vid...!!!
@hitatortot1112 Heh. A C-5 Galaxy - the largest plane operated by the USAF - has a maximum payload of 135 tons. Your average main line train carries anywhere from 4000 to 18000 tons of cargo (not including the dead weight of the cars.) It would take a lot of planes to equate that...
at least there are no trains coming that day
The language is a bit unnecessary, but the actual washout is like a bad dream come true. I wonder how he got over to the other side?
@dano132454 I know for a fact the company is strict and likes to keep it confidential... The video was pretty interesting to watch no doubt about that and I am a huge railfan myself that I have an interest to work for CN but you know the company will do what it takes to cover their ass because a washout makes them look bad.... I probably would have recorded it too but i would have never have posted it on youtube or anywhere online unless i had permission
@saintjohnrailfan Things don't always work out this well. In July 2009 there was a fatal derailment near Rockford, IL. A patrol car happened to record the washout 20 minutes prior to the accident.
Unfortunately, they couldn't contact dispatchers who were able to stop the train... The first 40 or so cars were empty or light, but 18 tanker cars derailed. They were carrying a mixture of 95% ethanol and 5% gasoline, and a dozen of them caught on fire.
@coldblue9mm If you look carefully at the video, you will see the river that runs in a horseshoe on the right of the tracks. I'd guess that once the bank on that side was undercut by water and slid away, everything else to the left just followed. You can see trees waving on the left as the new river starts running right to left under where the tracks were.
I didn't even see any water before it started to slide. This is truly one of the most puzzling things I've ever seen.
I guess the soil underneath the tracks was already completely saturated with water?
Engine Engine number 9, on the new york transit line, if my train goes off the track, pick it up, pick it up, pick it up. ...
@gavnastyyy This was my first reaction after I finished watching the video as well. I kept expecting the ground to drop out from under him and ending with him standing on suspended tracks or something equally ridiculous.
@MrStabbie1 The guy is a maintenance-of-way worker for the train company. If you were to ring them... it'd be referred to him and his gang.
I have questions. What subdivision did this event occur on? What was the outcome..did the crew drive on out? When did this occur? How many days did it take to repair the section? Where did you find this video?
Hi there. I'm a TV producer working on a series about working on the railroad. I would love to get in touch with you about this video you shot and possible obtain it for the series. Is there a way to contact you?
@hoggerjeff I'm always suspect anytime you have water against a fill. I've been around quite a few railroad washouts and this looks more like the fill liquidified, maybe in the thaw. At any rate, it's good that they stopped traffic before they put one in the ditch. What road are you off of?
it's be at the right place at the right moment,and the best thing,he's CN employee,so it's was report in real time,an getting that on tape....priceless
Surprised CN hasn't fired him for using a camera at work...
@JeannieSouza These guys are railroaders. And during something like this, when the ground is falling out under your feet. you say what's on your mind. You can always turn off your volume...
@craizydragon Great stuff, Craizy. Huge respect to Tom, Byron, Chris, and all MOW guys out there--you guys are the unsung heroes who keep the global economy going.
So I'm curious, how DID he get back to the hi-railer afterwards? Or did they send one from the other direction to pick him up/have the crew run around the washout on the nearest roads to get him? (I'm hoping he didn't have to *walk* to the nearest crossing, lol!)
This happened to the IND Rockaway Line during hurricane Sandy.
Many engineers are very thankful Tom, Byron and chris for being at the right sopt at the right time and definatley avoiding a terrible tragedy. I am very proud of Tom and I have a whole new respect for his job and what it entails.. so next time he calls to tell me hes gonna be late home, im glad cause i know hes doin the job that he loves so much to the best of his ability.....thats the reality :)
Long walk home
@61rreed Northern Ontario, about 200km north of Sudbury.
@FightTheElite Likely a culvert passing under the track that got plugged with debris and caused a buildup of water on one side. This is just speculation, mind you - but it's a very real scenario.
HOLY SHITAQUA! Talk about being in the wrong place at the right time.
This proactivity is what really saves lives on the railroad.
So what if there was some cursing? If you were seeing the roadbed give way in front of your eyes, you would too.
That'll give you a sphincter factor of 10. A round of new shorts for everyone.
Amen for the engineering boys.
@J3110M4N14 What exactly is a hevey fraght? Is that a special piece of on-track equipment CN has? And is that how MoW gets bizey (not even sure what that means either)?
wow, not fun. if it was me, I would have crossed on the side with the concrete ties. rails being clipped in to the ties sould hold alot better than spiked into wood.
How did he get acrost the gap anyways?
you could have sat on the rails and had the EARTH MOVE UNDER YA FEET
@papoocanada Stackpool is about 200 miles north of Sudbury. Way out in the middle of nowhere.
...and that's how bridges are made.
Suddenly, you hear a train in the distance...
@craizydragon smart man...its good that people actually care about their job and the people they work with.
How do you fix something like that? Cool vid guys.
very lucky,, as a retired engineer,, I am thankful,,as for CLAM502,,he doesnt have a clue.
The guy who posted the video is probably in deep shit or worst case costed his job. You know why? Because when you work for CN it's confidential and they take it pretty serious I know for a fact he broke that policy... I wouldn't be surprised if he got fired for this.... I don't work for CN but I had an interview with them before and part of the agreement is that your job is kept confidential
how did he get across to his buds?
I would have walked on the ties.
Putting your comment in capitol letters really makes your point.
This showed how a flood can effect the railway embankment
Time to put a bridge there.
you said tide? is it normal for tide water to be there?
@laucknerd walk along the the tracks, they're not sturdy enough to hold a train anymore but a person shouldn't be a problem.
Slowest reaction to a landslide beneath you ever. Lol. Great video though.
but where the hell is "Stackpool" nothing on maps ??
I can't beleave how big this thing is and how fast it opened up. It looks like now they are going to need to put in a 50 foot span railroad bridge or at least a 20 foot cross box culvert for this so it doesn't happen again.
Nice Catch! very good video of a dangerous situation, though you were just a little close.
Damn this is nuts!!
how do you fix that? Bridge?
@MrStabbie1 Observe the radio noises and the crew on the other side, assume the crew had radios too, hypothesise what you think they where doing.
Notice the fibre line next to the track on the left.
How does CN plan on fixing that??
Hey, how about an answer from one of the gang members on whether or not a failed culvert was the cause. How about it Tommy MIller or one of his "crew" (we still call them "gangs" south of their border). That fill was definately saturated.
Better send two men with red flags, one each directions and call the dispatcher first.
good reaction time man. Glad nobody got hurt. ... wonder how long it will take to get the rail up and running again....
All that shit just disappeared in about 1/4th of a second. Let me get closer.
Now that's cajones.
1:45 "It's not a fucking derailment but looks like I got overtime hours for next pay". LOL this guy has his priorities straight. Get paid first worry about making it out alive later.
Idea for Freddie Wong's or Corridor Digital's next video?
Is this Line back in service?
@NellsStuff Heh... as far as railroaders go, this is nothing. I'm actually surprised at how little he swore.
@finkako86 Read the title - "Washout". There didn't use to be a "river" there!
It might still work if they dirve reeeallly slowly!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Cause that's the safest thing to do at that time and place.
That one guy who dislikes this works for VIA
what is CN ??
wow pretty crazy......we have a camp on the line not too far from here
@JeannieSouza thats nordenontonese they are speaking!! they need to "watch my fair lady"
you can see the trucks start to move at 0:40.wild.
@coldblue9mm What do you expect? Her channel is about chickens...and snow....and hot dogs I think. This is not an advanced mind.
@spungie85 and CN lost employees and equipment??? Im gonna go with no...I need their stock value to stay where it is.
Cool video brother. Good thing your hyrail was parked down the tack far enough or they would take you onto the carpet and give you a jar to pee into.
Dang,,how much you weigh, son?
Talking about being at the right place at the right time!
@JeannieSouza
what century do you live in? It's compeltly acceptable for adults, even more so when THEY'RE RUNNING FOR THIER GOD DAM LIVES!
@JeannieSouza ...I stand by what I said. You cannot watch videos on RUclips and not expect some rough language. I don't know where you're from, but it's time for you to leave Fantasy Island....or pop that bubble that you've been living in, OR TURN OFF YOUR VOLUME, OR EVEN BETTER YET, DON'T LOG ONTO THIS SITE!
Crazy stuff...unfortunately i think with the huge snow pac we have this year this is only the start.
Poor guy'd have to sit there forever waiting for a new ride, lol.
OMG!
That is CRAZY!
Holy Crap!!!!! 😳
That’s a railroad trestle now
@komsomolac
ooh, thank you
Maybe next time they will put a decent sized culvert in there. Well, except if they like spending more money year after year, then they will just do business as usual.