Thank you for supporting Englot in this hard situation. Things will past. But your reaction will be left. When things are fine again, your reaction videos will turn to be another journey of Englot. Your reaction is the reason why I falled for Englot. I watched your reaction video of Gap the series, I liked your reaction, then I found Englot reaction from your channel as well. So thank you. I really love them, and I'm learning Thai language now.
Some fans turned to be trolls without realizing it. It's happens all the time. It even happened to me several months ago when I falled for another couple. That situation made me realize that when the hate crawled all over the body, being silent is best. Just ask yourself several basic questions. Are they good people? Yes. Do they have a beautiful personality? Yes. Do they care about each other? Yes. OK. Then things are clear. I'm the one misunderstand.
I still don't understand, in the meeting with the fans in September they accepted that they loved each other, and were very affectionate, Char happy, later in the interviews, Tigger and Halloween events they seemed like girlfriends, and that was recently, in Japan they had a good time, According to them, it was practically a vacation and it was an important trip for the couple, and when they returned everything changed, all drama. Charlotte asking him for an opportunity and Engfa publicly at events telling him that it was not time, that he had to wait, that now they should dedicate themselves to work and that it was not the time for love, etc. etc. Coming back from Japan they asked them and Engfa said the same thing, that the right person should wait the right time, Charlotte responded: that if she was the right person she should not wait the right time. Then Woody came two days later and everything died. It really seems like a novel and we are watching it live and direct. I've thought about it, some time ago the girls were hinting that surprises would come next year, that Englot would change its name, that a new member would join the family. etc... Doesn't everything seem shady to you? The Thais even say that something big is coming that will impact Thailand. (that last one is rumor) and that all this is theater. In that last interview I saw - November 8 I think, Char complains to Engfa that he no longer responds as quickly as before, Engfa said: the boss won't let me, oops, I missed it, he said. P.S. The last episode of Show Me Love was edited, they changed the order of some scenes and Menna's dream (marriage) was put at the end, after the credits, not as a dream, but as a reality (GO AND SEE), they say that There is a 2nd season or a Vlog they will publish (for a reason the girls are with the cameras all day and they filter only what we want to see, they show that the girls cook together, that they flirt, that they sleep together, the trips to the USA, etc.. BEWARE! I think there is a story left to tell. On the Woody Charlotte Show crying, Engfa couldn't look her in the eyes, he didn't hug her when she cried, he ignored her, like they didn't know each other, the next day they went to the Philippines and sat together haha, and not to mention the songs they sang at the concert, Ugh... If everything we've seen from day 1 so far has been acting, they deserve an OSCAR. They talk a lot, especially Engfa, but no one can doubt that with their eyes and actions they say other things, no one can deny that.
OK so what u wanna say englo6has been acting all along from the start? In my opinion there's no faking u can't tell me that a 24 lady came out as a lesbian on public I personally believe the love char has for fah is not fake and I think char saying that fah rejected me on my side it wasn't a good thing to say coz some fans now blame fah this drama includs personal feelings that's y even if they said they're sisters nothing more still they can't act like sisters that tells me fah was hurt even if she won't say, and the she rejected me I think char said it coz she was emotional not only that tree their a some things we do out of emotions when we don't know it will hur4 another party so let it be God knows what's happening to them but the truth we can't forget that they confessed and am sure fah know about char trying with that guy but I think she was surprised of the photos
@@CINASTORM explico que es imposible que no tengan sentimientos ahora, NO PUEDEN FINGIR QUE SE QUIEREN Y NO COMO HERMANAS, me quedo con las palabras de Engfa en donde indica que AMA A CHAR pero que no es el momento adecuado, que debe esperarla; que ambas deben crecer por separado, por esa razon se despidieron de Englot para crecer ambas en sus proyectos por separado etc, y que el tiempo dira que pase entre ellas .
All I am going to say here its their story is not over. The situation that they are in it's bad. have to work together for 6 more years. Till 2029 . They under contract they have to do what he says whether they want to or not. Watch the movie The Adjustment Bearu. it will explain a lot of things.
@@CINASTORM All I can say is that they do love each other. we have all seen it with our own eyes. How they look at each other. Eyes never lie. The eyes are the windows of your soul...
honestly boss shouldn't have make this public considering how close the competition was and how could harm engfa, not a smart move. And lets be honest engfa its the most famous person in the organisation and who brings more benefit to it, he should protect her not throw her under the bus. i kind of agree of what he said about protecting her but he shoudn't have make it public
Singapore is a prosperous city. There are many beautiful buildings. And there are trees all over the city, on the buildings and on the streets, there are only green trees. That's why E wanted to go to Singapore. The person who said she was lying was someone who had never been to Singapore and had a bias towards E.
The time when she thought of suicidal 😢. She got bashed, critised left and right. And i'm heartbroken watching her first live (with Coco) after the incident. She can't even look straight to the camera. Her eyes was empty and sad.
As far as I know, that person had a boyfriend and then immediately broke up with her girlfriend to come see Engfa... Boss Nawat just screened the people who would come to find Engfa so as not to affect the work. The boss must definitely know better than an outsider like me.... That person is not worth getting along with and should not be close to. Anyway, this matter happened a long time ago, let it be.
Engfa was not on vacation, she knows she wasn’t. That woman talked her into doing a photo shoot that was against Engfa’s contract . This woman wanted to ride on Engfa’s coat tails, period . This woman caused so much havoc in a short period. Engfa could of lost everything. Also I believe that Engfa , had she studied her English like she was supposed to, she would of been Miss International. Remember when she answered that one question about what would you say to Putin about him starting the war in Ukrainian? The last sentence she said was Putin, make love then she forgot not war . She said make love . I believe and heard so many people say the same thing , that’s what blew her international win . She had that title, it was hers but she didn’t study like she was supposed to. I adore Engfa , I love how fame didn’t change her . You get what you see , a goofy , loving, crazy wonderful, kind , beautiful badass . She’ll always be my queen ❤️🙏🏻👸🏻✌️
Thankyou for never stopping reacting to them, your reaction is like my reaction like I am not just the one thinking of it hahahaha thankyou vicky until forever we will never leave them ❤
Yes ,lots of drama with these two . I love your reviews. I dislike the boss , he is too controlling. Girl alot of drama right now with charlot. Can't wait for review 😊😊😊
i'm seeing a lot of "attack" comments on Engfa and Charlotte, everyone needs to chill, they're still young, they need to experience life. like, relax, its their life to live afterall 😂
Engfa doesn't seem like an impulsive person, even when she talks it's very slow and well thought out, she may have just been having an episode which caused her to be easily led and manipulated. I think boss was genuinely concerned about her wellbeing but he also knows he struck gold with Engfa and was terrified of losing his golden goose. I don't know why this made fans disappointed in Engfa, even if she told a few little porky pies because she wanted privacy, so what? we all have those days where we want to disappear and rejuvenate. Why do fans like to act so self righteous? Like it's okay for 'regular' people to act up but a celebrity has to always be perfect? Silly asf. Anyway, glad you're back reacting to HWT2, I look forward to seeing how this all wraps up and Enfas MGI journey if you're still covering that.
Ok. Thai people will have to say what TN did before... because I don't know, But there were two instances after this... that she tried to get attn from Engfa. IN Indonesia, TN called P'fa and recorded it and then posted her voice in one of her stories. TN said it was accident and P'fa gave benefit of the doubt. THEN ...She did something like this again after P'fa returned-- calling to say congrats or something, but used a recording again .. as an effort to get attn. The last one, P'fa cut her off (not by name, but it was obvious to fans in social media) and then TN posted something about hate she received because of this.. playing victim. Then P'fa felt bad- had to speak about it. And a few news reports happened. So boss was right about her
Thanks Vicky for another reaction, try not get into the drama right know, things are a little bit of toxic. SOme are picking sides and everything but by the time you catch up, everything will be calm hopefully. Rollercoster thats what I like to call ahahah from what they said is the same as before but different words. Even engfa said to ship carefully without expectations. They never said englot is over , they said the time is not right and their status right now is better. Whatever they do about the love they have for each other only time and destiny will tell. I will stay, hope and pray for them individual and together. They deserve all hapiness and love like they give to us. Whats meant to be it will be. I have faith in them . ENGLOT IS ENGLOT.
Engfa was in a really bad place at that time and personally I think T took advanged of that. Maybe E needed an break after the whole "No chance" drama and wanted to forget her MGI responsibilities for a short time. I don't know much about T's past but it wasn't long ago she was on the news for being responsible for crashing into a motorbiker and apperantly she didn't do anything to help the victim until much later after he was admitted to hospital. Even after she didn't provide enough help. Lets just say E really dodged a bullet there.
Vicky you’ve opened the portal to very hurtful peeps. They’ll pour out here 😂. Su su dukhon. No wonder HT2 closed comments when this video came out. Twitter & SM was damned when E fled Thailand.Their queen ran away yo. Their poster child, their golden duck.The literal face of MGO 😂went AWOL. We remember all fans giving out minute by minute details on what’s happening on Twitter & praying she returns back home safely,It was a 💀 time truly. All the GC were going loko-Not to exaggerate but it was a devastating time. So glad E pulled herself out & managed to make it til today Sathuu 🙏
This dude and that type of organization are cutthroats and slavers, but it doesnt matter what we think, is ingraved in their culture. He thinks he own her and she must be obedient even if he is doing something wrong, he has the power to ruin her and he shouldnt be allowed to do that, yet as far as we know he keeps doing that and the artists has to abide to that way even if they know is wrong...
I'm from Singapore. Lemme tell you. Our beach are boring, there's no mountains and there's always signal cause its a small but populated country. All there is are buildings and more buildings. Engfa deserves to take her mind off things after a brutal competition. She did wrong by lying to the boss. One thing i hate is boss always drying out laundry for everyone to see. Some stuff deserves to stay behind the scenes. LOVE YOUR REACTIONS BY THE WAY.
People need to realize that this woman is under so much pressure. We have no idea what her and Charlotte are going through behind the scenes. Its a very difficult situation. she may have to keep a secret whoever she is with until her contract is over. Too much pressure for her.
As far as I know, that person had a girlfriend and then immediately broke up with her girlfriend to come see Engfa... Boss Nawat just screened the people who would come to find Engfa so as not to affect the work. Boss Nawat must definitely know better than an outsider like me.... That person is not worth getting along with and should not be close to. Anyway, this matter happened a long time ago, let it be.
Its suck to say but engfa lied. she really went missing and not informed boss or any person in the organization that she will be in Singapore with Tina, p'daad and p'sun. She also tell p'sun to boss that she is training in walking at the rooftop but she didn't. that's why it cause a lot of drama but it's all in the past. she learned her mistakes.
I aggreed with you on everything!!!! First of all.... I'm Thai but that's why I know it's NOT in Thai tradition, It's like you have to respect where you come from in this case Miss Grand Thailand. You have to respect on every rules they have, you can not just get in then get out of it without saying anything, it's in the individual contract of each company (in this case Public Company as Miss Grand) too. I don't think Engfa is that kind of person whose not grateful for what she has after attending Miss Grand. Hope she will have more financial benefit or more percentage of the income from the Miss Grand. I think Engfa is smart enough to know what is GOOD for her and her family 👩🎤🕺❤🥰
I don't watch Englot but didn't Engfa & Charlotte try and say they were just friends but their fanbase wasn't accepting that and tried to say they were really confessing they loved eachother. It seemed like after that Englot got worried and wanted to hold onto their fanbase so they backtracked into being into eachother again even amping up the showmanship & skinship to sell their brand.
Here's my humble opinion. Charlotte said she was a member of the LGBT before they met but on the Woody interview, she said she rejected Engfa at first because she wasn't attracted to women. And she only developed feelings for Engfa when she felt "weak". For almost 2 years, Charlotte made us all believe that she's part of the LGBT community. Charlotte did the "no chance" live and said that she doesn't want their working relationship to be complicated so she doesn't want to be Engfa's girlfriend. Her reason wasn't because "I'm not attracted to women". She hid this information from all of us. We all thought that Charlotte just needed to have a girlfriend. Charlotte's answer to all of the people who would ask her publicly is always something like "I haven't had a girlfriend yet but if I feel comfortable then yeah". Engfa said it though like she said it on her August live of last year that Charlotte wasn't a member of the LGBT community but nobody believed her and it's because 99% of the fans who were following the Englot ship including me were all blinded by our obsession with them as a couple. Most importantly, we were all holding on to what Charlotte has said at the beginning of the Englot ship in which she claimed that she's a member of the LGBT community. Moving on to Singapore. The only real mistake that Engfa did is not tell Nawat that Tina was going to go with them. If Charlotte was the one who went with Engfa, Nawat wouldn't have been angry because it would hype up the Englot ship and it would bring him more profit. But Engfa needed a break away from Charlotte. Engfa needed to heal whatever pain she felt when Charlotte said "no chance". We have to remember that Charlotte didn't say "no chance right now". Charlotte said "no chance even in the future". If Charlotte said "maybe not right now but maybe in the future". Engfa wouldn't have given Tina the time of day. Was Engfa and Tina flirting last year? yes. Did Engfa and Tina sleep with each other? no. Unless somebody out there can provide proof then that is a no. Nawat even said that Tina tried real hard but Tina failed. There are no pictures of shirtless Tina in Engfa's apartment. Engfa didn't send pictures or a video of them looking like a couple to a private group chat with only 10 people. There are no pictures of Tina in Engfa's apartment where Tina was looking like she's so used to sleeping there. Charlotte now admits that she dated two men in the past and Engfa would even give her the advice to be careful about those men. Charlotte said this after the USA trip. She cried about those rumors when those rumors first came out saying they're not true and some people just wants to make her look bad. Serious question. Why is there no backlash for Charlotte whenever she lies and seriously flirt with men? Charlotte can admit to lying publicly and she is always easily forgiven. Charlotte can have a shirtless man in her apartment but Engfa can't party on a yacht with some lesbians. Charlotte can kiss and share a bed with other people from the LGBT community like Aoom and that's accepted. Charlotte can physically cling on to men in general but nobody would ever think that there is malice. Charlotte kissed Madam Fin's lips in front of everybody's salad but everybody just smiled at it. If it was Engfa kissing some CEO's lips then there would've been another backlash for Engfa. Charlotte gets away with so much. It may be because people who looks like her are the standard of beauty in Asia. I don't know if it's because she's half white and there is a privilege attached to that or something else but one thing is for sure, life is much easier for her compared to Engfa. I've been following them for more than a year and I observed that Engfa never blamed Charlotte whenever she's sad. Engfa has never thrown Charlotte under a bus. Engfa might've posted sad songs and hidden messages about Charlotte but she never said "I cried so much because of Charlotte". Last year on her August live, Engfa was just smiling and drinking. Engfa never did what Charlotte has done at 4am in the morning. Charlotte have kept on "crying and publicly been sulking" until this early November. Charlotte have been acting like she hasn't moved on from Engfa's rejection when all this time, she already had that BL actor in her life. For somebody who said they don't do fan service, what Charlotte has done is really something to think about.
In response to your comments, I would also like to share my own opinion. During the MGT era, it was widely known that Charlotte was not an LGBT individual; this was certain from the beginning. After developing feelings for Engfa, Charlotte openly admitted to being an LGBT individual. Engfa always knew who Charlotte had talked to in the past and advised her to be careful. Many of the released images are fake, and only one or two are real, which Charlotte acknowledges (let's not forget that there was someone she used to associate with). One thing you missed is that Charlotte doesn't have a boyfriend. I'm sorry, but I don't understand how people interpret having a conversation with someone as having feelings for them. This has always been the case with Charlotte; whenever people see her with a man, they immediately label him as her boyfriend. When Charlotte confessed her feelings to Engfa, Engfa started distancing herself, and this was visibly apparent. The reason for this, as Engfa explained on the Woody Show, is that her feelings towards Charlotte are like those of a sister. She always said that when the right time comes, there could be a 100% chance, but she never gave that chance to develop. (Because they both stated that they never met outside of work.) Both admitted on the show that they have been with others. Do you think Engfa didn't meet anyone just because Charlotte was meeting someone? I won't even mention the live broadcast at 4 in the morning; she was seriously psychologically broken in that live broadcast. We never knew what was going on between them, and she still defended Engfa in that broadcast. (Remember the reactions she received after the broadcast.) We have always seen that a step has always been taken by C in this relationship, we have never seen E take a step in this relationship. (After Charlotte confessed her feelings) C has suffered for a few months, do you think a person without feelings would do this ? Why would a person do fan service using their emotions when both of them have already become well-known? If you think that he is doing fan service, do not think that he is doing it unilaterally. After saying that they are seeing others, don't forget the Fire Tiger, Aleove broadcasts, both of them are doing fan service then.. There is a situation like this, why would a person spend 200k to do fan service.. We will never be able to understand who is right or not in the events that have taken place, we just stick our noses into their lives by interpreting what we see. Let's not forget that there is only one thing they both want, that we should not interfere so much in their lives. **Let's not forget the boss factor, they are both under a lot of pressure** While we are commenting after this time, it is useful for us to comment taking into account the experiences of both sides. I don't think both of them are mentally well. And one more thing for sure, both of them need to go to a couples therapist..
@@gakyuz98 You're here to say that she's pretty much perfect and has always been honest with us? right..... Charlotte said that she's a member of the LGBT community. Exact translation from their first live is Engfa asking her if she's LGBT and she said "yeah but I've never had a girlfriend". Charlotte even won awards as a celebrity who is part of the LGBT community. There are even polls where Engfa and Charlotte were being pinned against each other because they were both labeled as "LGBT idols or influencers" and Charlotte liked all of those polls and would even RT those things. Charlotte categorized herself as a member of the LGBT community. Charlotte considers herself as LGBT. Charlotte said she REJECTED ENGFA because she IS NOT ATTRACTED TO WOMEN. What Charlotte felt for Engfa is INFATUTUATION and it happens to straight women sometimes. That is not unique to Charlotte at all. It happens to other straight women. Charlotte never tried dating other women or tried with other women even when Engfa encouraged her because Charlotte is straight as a ruler. CHARLOTE WAS JUST BI-CURIOUS. If Charlotte was actually attracted to women in general then she would've tried dating other women instead of going back to men. But she actually never stopped dating men even when Engfa hasn't rejected her yet. Charlotte being inconsistent shouldn't be forgotten just because Engfa knew that Charlotte was dating those men on the side. You're only seeing and hearing what you want. You only want to see the good side of Charlotte and not the real facts. Charlotte said it herself that she only felt WEAK when she started developing her feelings for Engfa. Charlotte said that on the Woody interview. I'm sure she told Engfa that beforehand so would it actually be a good relationship if Engfa took advantage of Charlotte during her WEAKEST stage? like they would only have a relationship just because Charlotte feels WEAK. You think that's good? and isn't that some type of an insult to have somebody develop feelings for you just because they feel WEAK? How do you know what is fake and real from those pictures and video? did Charlotte personally told you that only two of them are real and which ones exactly? all Charlotte did after the Philippines concert is to acknowledge that what happened was irresponsible and that she admit that it's a mistake on her part. She said that those images were taken 4 months ago. But she officially moved to her new house on October. In August, she made a contract signing. In September, she was starting to buy things for her new house. In October, that is the time of the official moving in. Can't you see that the numbers doesn't add up? but even if it did, how can she keep on acting like she hasn't moved on from Engfa when the fact is that BL actor was already inside of her life? they weren't just "talking" because talking is what we're doing right now. People talk using words. What Charlotte has done with those men and especially that BL actor is physically be together with them in an intimate manner. Just the fact that Charlotte sent those images in a private group chat says it all. If it was just some random guy who had no romantic connection with her then she would've posted those things publicly because there is no malice whatsoever. Charlotte wasn't just using her phone and talking to that BL actor. Charlotte allowed that BL actor to be shirtless on her couch. How many times do you need to hear this? if it was nothing and it wasn't a big deal, Charlotte wouldn't have sent those images to a private group chat with only 10 people. Charlotte wouldn't have had to apologize and Nawat wouldn't have been concerned. Nawat already said that she cleans up Charlotte's mess all the time and he was talking about 3 specific times. Nawat even said that part of loving a celebrity is helping to manage their behavior. When they make a mistake, fan clubs should point it out and not just agree with everything that celebrity is saying. Nawat asked the fan club of Charlotte, "how many more times? how many more people? how many more incidents?" etc. That's his direct response to the fans saying that Charlotte needs to pay for her new house. Nawat said Charlotte should focus on working but she makes mistakes all the time. So that was his questions like "how many more times and all that".
@@gakyuz98 Engfa never made the first move on Charlotte when they both admitted to seeing "someone". Charlotte kept that act going though. Engfa was always just sitting or standing and minding her own business. Charlotte was always the one who made it look like she wants to physically get intimate with Engfa even after they both confessed that they were seeing "someone" already. Engfa would even ask Charlotte's solo fans to help her with Charlotte because Charlotte was being too touchy. Engfa just smiled about it all the time because it's not like Engfa can actually physically hurt Charlotte by pushing her. Was Engfa meeting and dating other women early this year right after Charlotte's concert? because Charlotte was already dating some man during that time. That rumor just like the rumor last year was true. Charlotte said it herself that she was dating two men after the USA trip. How can you tell that Engfa never gave it a chance? have you forgotten that ENGFA WAS REJECTED FIRST and the reason is because CHARLOTTE IS NOT ATTRACTED TO WOMEN and this reason was hidden from everybody. The official reason that Charlotte gave to the public last year was because she doesn't want their working relationship to be toxic. Charlotte never said that she isn't really attracted to women. But when Charlotte started developing feelings for one specific woman, it was only because CHARLOTTE FELT WEAK. Charlotte was never attracted to other women in the way that she is very attracted to men. It's so easy for Charlotte to be attracted to men in general but not women. How can you not see that Charlotte was just BI-CURIOUS? They don't even talk normally as friends because they have nothing in common. They look pretty as a shipping couple but they're not a good match. Why would they go to a couple's therapy when they aren't even a couple? you guys are treating them like toys. It's okay to ship and imagine but know your limits. Englot started as an imaginary ship and it will end as an imaginary ship. Know your limits.
@@religiondoesntpaytaxes7861 I'm sorry, but you have a lot of hatred for Charlotte. Yes, he has never lied to us and continues not to. He admitted that everything was his fault, even though he was betrayed by a close friend, he did not 100% attribute the mistakes to others. The last person who would use the LGBT community is charlotte. If you imply that charlotte uses the LGBT community, I'll tell you like this, then why was Engfa asking every person she broadcast live during the MGT competition why are you an LGBT member or have you been with someone from the LGBT community? the person who wanted to use this community and become an agenda was Engfa at that time. According to you, charlotte used it, according to me, she used it in Engfa. Since both of them use this community, there is no problem. Falling in love with a person, feeding emotions already happens in such situations. As a Software developer, I can understand which images are real - fake. People like you believe what they want to believe in this case. Nawat always cleaned up Charlotte's mess, what kind of statement. He didn't do anything to clean up her mess, he humiliated her in front of people, she didn't do him professionally the way a company would. Charlotte cleaned up her own situation, there was no need for Nawat to clean it up. If She had done something wrong, she wouldn't have gone to the media and cleared the situation. And the reason Charlotte remained silent was because she was betrayed by the person closest to her. And there was no mess to clean up. People may have friends, their closeness or distance is none of our business, this is not our life. Because of people who are heavily obsessed with ships, people cannot have normal friends and cannot share on social media. Both of them clearly knew a few months ago that they were not in a relationship. Why is it so difficult for them to meet others? This is their life. (Although EL has already said that they are meeting with others, do not think that Engfa is not meeting anyone because there are no images of her, she is just being smart) Remember that Engfa already wants Charlotte to talk to other people. Nawat needs EL, the two of them bring in 70% of the company's revenue. He must be behind them. Unfortunately, he uses them as slaves. I hope you see this and feel sorry for their situation. It wouldn't do us any good to comment further because they are both happy with their situation and there are no problems between them. Stop creating problems. Don't be so nosy and toxic about other people's lives. Know your limits when interfering in other people's lives. This is not your life. Remember that our comments do not affect their lives either. Go out and touch some grass. You're too angry about this life that doesn't belong to you.
@@gakyuz98 Oh and about that 200,000 baht? so what though? does that mean she's a real bisexual? for me, it was an effective MARKETING TOOL or an INVESTMENT. She will get that amount back and would definitely earn more money in the future because the shippers were happy with what she did.
That woman Engfa was with , she talked Engfa into doing a photo shoot with her, that’s pissed boss off . Engfa’s bullsh*ting everyone on that live . Personally I think she was burnt out and her and that woman just took and she didn’t do anything she was supposed to be doing. She lied to the boss , that’s why he got pissed off . This woman used Engfa . Engfa just blocked everything and everyone. No communication at all . Engfa just took off , point blank period. She had a things she was supposed to be doing as a queen. I really really like Engfa but she messed up bad .She was contiplating being with this woman. She got tired of chasing Charlotte and Charlotte wasn’t interested then . Vicki you know how it was between them in the beginning.
I heard about this drama. It was not cute at all. even through all of this Charlotte was there for Engfa. One thing that I would like to say Enfga and Charlotte are in a very difficult situation. First and most important what need to remember is that there contracts are till 2029. Engfa owes a bg favor to Boss. Don't forget he paid for the lawsuit of the record deal she had with those people when she was young. Has much as we all know that they truly love each other. They are to many things in their way they have o work together for 6 more years. To me what really bothers me its that They both work day and night. The boss gets 40% of what they make. They are the ones keeping that company afloat. I honestly don't care for the Boss everything he does has do with money. If he wants them to not be together than that what they have to do. Lets not also forget that Engfa has a 7 years dating ban. So it's a lot of pressure on both of them but more on Engfa.
Watching the final video engfa's tik tok is 🤬.. now that Charlotte is going through something similar the engfa is not by her side.. what changed in a few days? Oh man 😶
I'm just sad about that...😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 EF needs to be there for her . not aoom, meena , the team but EF............ because unconditional love never fails it shows up always friends, sister. moved on regardless 😌 Love shows up..........😢😢 So i hope EF does in a huge way. This is not the time for ego's and pride. This is the time to be there for the sake of helping her grow healthier mentally..... i want say anymore but this is not the time for EF to wait for a call from Char...... She needs to pick up the phone and be there 🙄 😒 😑 😩 😭
When are you guys going to give Engfa a break. Everything involving drama's you guys drag Engfa into it. It's like you guys always want her to be the one in the wrong. Engfa don't even have enough time for sleeping and you guys also want her to babysit Charlotte.
The situation is different. Last year, people knew they actually were nothing. But this year, the biggest problem is that more than 90% of trolls think they're together, and Engfa get cheated. Which is not true. Engfa clarified things between them is wayyyy better than say something make people think Char belongs to her. How you can't see the overall situation just want blaming one another. It's always happening. Some of fans turned to be trolls without realizing it.
@@雪と梅I understand what you're saying, but work together to entertain the world. . Now we see two people who look like they're bored. It's better to stop cooperating than for the world to see two people who almost don't speak. Sorry about my English, but I hope you understand what I mean.
Thank you for supporting Englot in this hard situation. Things will past. But your reaction will be left. When things are fine again, your reaction videos will turn to be another journey of Englot. Your reaction is the reason why I falled for Englot. I watched your reaction video of Gap the series, I liked your reaction, then I found Englot reaction from your channel as well. So thank you. I really love them, and I'm learning Thai language now.
🥹 Thank you so much! 🫶🏼🥰
Some fans turned to be trolls without realizing it. It's happens all the time. It even happened to me several months ago when I falled for another couple. That situation made me realize that when the hate crawled all over the body, being silent is best. Just ask yourself several basic questions. Are they good people? Yes. Do they have a beautiful personality? Yes. Do they care about each other? Yes. OK. Then things are clear. I'm the one misunderstand.
That takes a lot of self reflection, maturity, and growth to admit. I respect you ❤️
I still don't understand, in the meeting with the fans in September they accepted that they loved each other, and were very affectionate, Char happy, later in the interviews, Tigger and Halloween events they seemed like girlfriends, and that was recently, in Japan they had a good time, According to them, it was practically a vacation and it was an important trip for the couple, and when they returned everything changed, all drama. Charlotte asking him for an opportunity and Engfa publicly at events telling him that it was not time, that he had to wait, that now they should dedicate themselves to work and that it was not the time for love, etc. etc. Coming back from Japan they asked them and Engfa said the same thing, that the right person should wait the right time, Charlotte responded: that if she was the right person she should not wait the right time. Then Woody came two days later and everything died. It really seems like a novel and we are watching it live and direct. I've thought about it, some time ago the girls were hinting that surprises would come next year, that Englot would change its name, that a new member would join the family. etc... Doesn't everything seem shady to you? The Thais even say that something big is coming that will impact Thailand. (that last one is rumor) and that all this is theater.
In that last interview I saw - November 8 I think, Char complains to Engfa that he no longer responds as quickly as before, Engfa said: the boss won't let me, oops, I missed it, he said.
P.S. The last episode of Show Me Love was edited, they changed the order of some scenes and Menna's dream (marriage) was put at the end, after the credits, not as a dream, but as a reality (GO AND SEE), they say that There is a 2nd season or a Vlog they will publish (for a reason the girls are with the cameras all day and they filter only what we want to see, they show that the girls cook together, that they flirt, that they sleep together, the trips to the USA, etc.. BEWARE! I think there is a story left to tell.
On the Woody Charlotte Show crying, Engfa couldn't look her in the eyes, he didn't hug her when she cried, he ignored her, like they didn't know each other, the next day they went to the Philippines and sat together haha, and not to mention the songs they sang at the concert, Ugh...
If everything we've seen from day 1 so far has been acting, they deserve an OSCAR. They talk a lot, especially Engfa, but no one can doubt that with their eyes and actions they say other things, no one can deny that.
OK so what u wanna say englo6has been acting all along from the start? In my opinion there's no faking u can't tell me that a 24 lady came out as a lesbian on public I personally believe the love char has for fah is not fake and I think char saying that fah rejected me on my side it wasn't a good thing to say coz some fans now blame fah this drama includs personal feelings that's y even if they said they're sisters nothing more still they can't act like sisters that tells me fah was hurt even if she won't say, and the she rejected me I think char said it coz she was emotional not only that tree their a some things we do out of emotions when we don't know it will hur4 another party so let it be God knows what's happening to them but the truth we can't forget that they confessed and am sure fah know about char trying with that guy but I think she was surprised of the photos
@@CINASTORM no puedo traducir a español .
@@CINASTORM explico que es imposible que no tengan sentimientos ahora, NO PUEDEN FINGIR QUE SE QUIEREN Y NO COMO HERMANAS, me quedo con las palabras de Engfa en donde indica que AMA A CHAR pero que no es el momento adecuado, que debe esperarla; que ambas deben crecer por separado, por esa razon se despidieron de Englot para crecer ambas en sus proyectos por separado etc, y que el tiempo dira que pase entre ellas .
All I am going to say here its their story is not over. The situation that they are in it's bad. have to work together for 6 more years. Till 2029 . They under contract they have to do what he says whether they want to or not.
Watch the movie The Adjustment Bearu. it will explain a lot of things.
@@CINASTORM All I can say is that they do love each other. we have all seen it with our own eyes. How they look at each other. Eyes never lie. The eyes are the windows of your soul...
honestly boss shouldn't have make this public considering how close the competition was and how could harm engfa, not a smart move. And lets be honest engfa its the most famous person in the organisation and who brings more benefit to it, he should protect her not throw her under the bus. i kind of agree of what he said about protecting her but he shoudn't have make it public
Im 100% with you. I dont cae for him at all...
The "No chance " effect hit hard. Thinking rationally was not her nr1 priority
Singapore is a prosperous city. There are many beautiful buildings. And there are trees all over the city, on the buildings and on the streets, there are only green trees. That's why E wanted to go to Singapore. The person who said she was lying was someone who had never been to Singapore and had a bias towards E.
Yes loved Singapore such a modern and peaceful country. Can’t wait to visit again ❤
I saw Charlotte's ig story guys she and engfa were sitting tgt on the airplane🤭🤭
The time when she thought of suicidal 😢. She got bashed, critised left and right. And i'm heartbroken watching her first live (with Coco) after the incident. She can't even look straight to the camera. Her eyes was empty and sad.
Oh the timing of this video, vicky! 😂
😅 Only over a year later 😂
As far as I know, that person had a boyfriend and then immediately broke up with her girlfriend to come see Engfa... Boss Nawat just screened the people who would come to find Engfa so as not to affect the work.
The boss must definitely know better than an outsider like me.... That person is not worth getting along with and should not be close to.
Anyway, this matter happened a long time ago, let it be.
They are in Combodia now ... 😅😅😂😂😂
Engfa was not on vacation, she knows she wasn’t. That woman talked her into doing a photo shoot that was against Engfa’s contract . This woman wanted to ride on Engfa’s coat tails, period . This woman caused so much havoc in a short period. Engfa could of lost everything. Also I believe that Engfa , had she studied her English like she was supposed to, she would of been Miss International. Remember when she answered that one question about what would you say to Putin about him starting the war in Ukrainian? The last sentence she said was Putin, make love then she forgot not war . She said make love . I believe and heard so many people say the same thing , that’s what blew her international win . She had that title, it was hers but she didn’t study like she was supposed to. I adore Engfa , I love how fame didn’t change her . You get what you see , a goofy , loving, crazy wonderful, kind , beautiful badass . She’ll always be my queen ❤️🙏🏻👸🏻✌️
Thankyou for never stopping reacting to them, your reaction is like my reaction like I am not just the one thinking of it hahahaha thankyou vicky until forever we will never leave them ❤
Yes ,lots of drama with these two . I love your reviews. I dislike the boss , he is too controlling. Girl alot of drama right now with charlot. Can't wait for review 😊😊😊
i'm seeing a lot of "attack" comments on Engfa and Charlotte, everyone needs to chill, they're still young, they need to experience life. like, relax, its their life to live afterall 😂
Skipping classes... Good girl ,gone bad... I like it 😂😂😂
Engfa doesn't seem like an impulsive person, even when she talks it's very slow and well thought out, she may have just been having an episode which caused her to be easily led and manipulated. I think boss was genuinely concerned about her wellbeing but he also knows he struck gold with Engfa and was terrified of losing his golden goose. I don't know why this made fans disappointed in Engfa, even if she told a few little porky pies because she wanted privacy, so what? we all have those days where we want to disappear and rejuvenate. Why do fans like to act so self righteous? Like it's okay for 'regular' people to act up but a celebrity has to always be perfect? Silly asf.
Anyway, glad you're back reacting to HWT2, I look forward to seeing how this all wraps up and Enfas MGI journey if you're still covering that.
Madam Finn kept being part of MG until she associate with MU, right after MGT23!
😱 Ohhhhh and I bet that was a traitor move for Nawat 😬
Ok. Thai people will have to say what TN did before... because I don't know, But there were two instances after this... that she tried to get attn from Engfa. IN Indonesia, TN called P'fa and recorded it and then posted her voice in one of her stories. TN said it was accident and P'fa gave benefit of the doubt. THEN ...She did something like this again after P'fa returned-- calling to say congrats or something, but used a recording again .. as an effort to get attn. The last one, P'fa cut her off (not by name, but it was obvious to fans in social media) and then TN posted something about hate she received because of this.. playing victim. Then P'fa felt bad- had to speak about it. And a few news reports happened. So boss was right about her
Oof 😬😬😬😬 If that was after she met Engfa, I wonder what she did before. Thank you for the update!
Thanks Vicky for another reaction, try not get into the drama right know, things are a little bit of toxic. SOme are picking sides and everything but by the time you catch up, everything will be calm hopefully. Rollercoster thats what I like to call ahahah
from what they said is the same as before but different words.
Even engfa said to ship carefully without expectations.
They never said englot is over , they said the time is not right and their status right now is better.
Whatever they do about the love they have for each other only time and destiny will tell.
I will stay, hope and pray for them individual and together.
They deserve all hapiness and love like they give to us. Whats meant to be it will be. I have faith in them . ENGLOT IS ENGLOT.
great job on the video!
Englot now is divorce 😂😭
We are still in the court being asked if we wanna go with mother or father 😂😂😂
I saw Charlotte's ig story she shared snack's story where they were in airplane and englot is sitting tgt hehehe😆
Why divorce? They not married yet.😁😁😁
Just wait and see, will they did next year?
@@guchansung2120 😂😂 divorce because no more clingy moments 🤣
@@ElleiramXD00 Englot so funny because when they're close together they doesn't know how to start a conversation 😂🤣😅😆
E said "Deuces, I'm tired of this issshhh" to all the P's and the strawman
Engfa was in a really bad place at that time and personally I think T took advanged of that. Maybe E needed an break after the whole "No chance" drama and wanted to forget her MGI responsibilities for a short time. I don't know much about T's past but it wasn't long ago she was on the news for being responsible for crashing into a motorbiker and apperantly she didn't do anything to help the victim until much later after he was admitted to hospital. Even after she didn't provide enough help. Lets just say E really dodged a bullet there.
Vicky you’ve opened the portal to very hurtful peeps.
They’ll pour out here 😂. Su su dukhon.
No wonder HT2 closed comments when this video came out.
Twitter & SM was damned when E fled Thailand.Their queen ran away yo. Their poster child, their golden duck.The literal face of MGO 😂went AWOL. We remember all fans giving out minute by minute details on what’s happening on Twitter & praying she returns back home safely,It was a 💀 time truly. All the GC were going loko-Not to exaggerate but it was a devastating time.
So glad E pulled herself out & managed to make it til today
Sathuu 🙏
Let their private lives be private. And if anyone is a true fan, just support and be happy for them or each individual person.
Vicky engfa talks more about what happened in her club Friday interview and a lot of other serious topics for more context
She is not a child. She is 28 years old. And entitled to live her own life.
This dude and that type of organization are cutthroats and slavers, but it doesnt matter what we think, is ingraved in their culture. He thinks he own her and she must be obedient even if he is doing something wrong, he has the power to ruin her and he shouldnt be allowed to do that, yet as far as we know he keeps doing that and the artists has to abide to that way even if they know is wrong...
I'm from Singapore. Lemme tell you. Our beach are boring, there's no mountains and there's always signal cause its a small but populated country. All there is are buildings and more buildings. Engfa deserves to take her mind off things after a brutal competition. She did wrong by lying to the boss. One thing i hate is boss always drying out laundry for everyone to see. Some stuff deserves to stay behind the scenes. LOVE YOUR REACTIONS BY THE WAY.
also, she def can practise english, since thats our lingua franca
😣😖Noo-the dreaded episode is here. Was hoping will never get to this gate again.
It’s ok I’m strong now; let’s revisit our deepest wound.
😅
I also dreaded reacting to this episode when I saw the title. Hopefully it wasn’t too bad watching it again with me. 🫶🏼
Bout to sleep, but I gotta watch this!!
Sweet dreams once you sleep! 😴
People need to realize that this woman is under so much pressure. We have no idea what her and Charlotte are going through behind the scenes. Its a very difficult situation. she may have to keep a secret whoever she is with until her contract is over. Too much pressure for her.
This was a very tough time for Engfa. from what I seen before they said that she lie about her wereabouts.
20:26 no hagas cosas buenas que parezcan malas. it's what my mom always say
As far as I know, that person had a girlfriend and then immediately broke up with her girlfriend to come see Engfa... Boss Nawat just screened the people who would come to find Engfa so as not to affect the work. Boss Nawat must definitely know better than an outsider like me....
That person is not worth getting along with and should not be close to.
Anyway, this matter happened a long time ago, let it be.
Vicky, existe la posiblidad de que en tus reacciones puedas incluir subtítulos en español? ..
Its suck to say but engfa lied. she really went missing and not informed boss or any person in the organization that she will be in Singapore with Tina, p'daad and p'sun. She also tell p'sun to boss that she is training in walking at the rooftop but she didn't. that's why it cause a lot of drama but it's all in the past. she learned her mistakes.
I aggreed with you on everything!!!! First of all.... I'm Thai but that's why I know it's NOT in Thai tradition, It's like you have to respect where you come from in this case Miss Grand Thailand. You have to respect on every rules they have, you can not just get in then get out of it without saying anything, it's in the individual contract of each company (in this case Public Company as Miss Grand) too. I don't think Engfa is that kind of person whose not grateful for what she has after attending Miss Grand. Hope she will have more financial benefit or more percentage of the income from the Miss Grand. I think Engfa is smart enough to know what is GOOD for her and her family 👩🎤🕺❤🥰
Acredito que houve algo entre elas e engfa ta sofrendo pelo q aconteceu entre charlotte e seea
I don't watch Englot but didn't Engfa & Charlotte try and say they were just friends but their fanbase wasn't accepting that and tried to say they were really confessing they loved eachother. It seemed like after that Englot got worried and wanted to hold onto their fanbase so they backtracked into being into eachother again even amping up the showmanship & skinship to sell their brand.
Late, but here...
Both ready bored to work together
It's charlotte now with actor sea.
Spoiler alert. Currently Englot is this video but reversed role 🥲
Here's my humble opinion. Charlotte said she was a member of the LGBT before they met but on the Woody interview, she said she rejected Engfa at first because she wasn't attracted to women. And she only developed feelings for Engfa when she felt "weak". For almost 2 years, Charlotte made us all believe that she's part of the LGBT community. Charlotte did the "no chance" live and said that she doesn't want their working relationship to be complicated so she doesn't want to be Engfa's girlfriend.
Her reason wasn't because "I'm not attracted to women".
She hid this information from all of us. We all thought that Charlotte just needed to have a girlfriend. Charlotte's answer to all of the people who would ask her publicly is always something like "I haven't had a girlfriend yet but if I feel comfortable then yeah". Engfa said it though like she said it on her August live of last year that Charlotte wasn't a member of the LGBT community but nobody believed her and it's because 99% of the fans who were following the Englot ship including me were all blinded by our obsession with them as a couple. Most importantly, we were all holding on to what Charlotte has said at the beginning of the Englot ship in which she claimed that she's a member of the LGBT community.
Moving on to Singapore. The only real mistake that Engfa did is not tell Nawat that Tina was going to go with them. If Charlotte was the one who went with Engfa, Nawat wouldn't have been angry because it would hype up the Englot ship and it would bring him more profit. But Engfa needed a break away from Charlotte. Engfa needed to heal whatever pain she felt when Charlotte said "no chance". We have to remember that Charlotte didn't say "no chance right now".
Charlotte said "no chance even in the future".
If Charlotte said "maybe not right now but maybe in the future". Engfa wouldn't have given Tina the time of day. Was Engfa and Tina flirting last year? yes. Did Engfa and Tina sleep with each other? no. Unless somebody out there can provide proof then that is a no. Nawat even said that Tina tried real hard but Tina failed. There are no pictures of shirtless Tina in Engfa's apartment. Engfa didn't send pictures or a video of them looking like a couple to a private group chat with only 10 people. There are no pictures of Tina in Engfa's apartment where Tina was looking like she's so used to sleeping there.
Charlotte now admits that she dated two men in the past and Engfa would even give her the advice to be careful about those men. Charlotte said this after the USA trip. She cried about those rumors when those rumors first came out saying they're not true and some people just wants to make her look bad. Serious question. Why is there no backlash for Charlotte whenever she lies and seriously flirt with men? Charlotte can admit to lying publicly and she is always easily forgiven. Charlotte can have a shirtless man in her apartment but Engfa can't party on a yacht with some lesbians.
Charlotte can kiss and share a bed with other people from the LGBT community like Aoom and that's accepted. Charlotte can physically cling on to men in general but nobody would ever think that there is malice. Charlotte kissed Madam Fin's lips in front of everybody's salad but everybody just smiled at it. If it was Engfa kissing some CEO's lips then there would've been another backlash for Engfa. Charlotte gets away with so much. It may be because people who looks like her are the standard of beauty in Asia. I don't know if it's because she's half white and there is a privilege attached to that or something else but one thing is for sure, life is much easier for her compared to Engfa.
I've been following them for more than a year and I observed that Engfa never blamed Charlotte whenever she's sad. Engfa has never thrown Charlotte under a bus. Engfa might've posted sad songs and hidden messages about Charlotte but she never said "I cried so much because of Charlotte". Last year on her August live, Engfa was just smiling and drinking. Engfa never did what Charlotte has done at 4am in the morning. Charlotte have kept on "crying and publicly been sulking" until this early November. Charlotte have been acting like she hasn't moved on from Engfa's rejection when all this time, she already had that BL actor in her life. For somebody who said they don't do fan service, what Charlotte has done is really something to think about.
In response to your comments, I would also like to share my own opinion.
During the MGT era, it was widely known that Charlotte was not an LGBT individual; this was certain from the beginning.
After developing feelings for Engfa, Charlotte openly admitted to being an LGBT individual.
Engfa always knew who Charlotte had talked to in the past and advised her to be careful.
Many of the released images are fake, and only one or two are real, which Charlotte acknowledges (let's not forget that there was someone she used to associate with).
One thing you missed is that Charlotte doesn't have a boyfriend. I'm sorry, but I don't understand how people interpret having a conversation with someone as having feelings for them.
This has always been the case with Charlotte; whenever people see her with a man, they immediately label him as her boyfriend.
When Charlotte confessed her feelings to Engfa, Engfa started distancing herself, and this was visibly apparent. The reason for this, as Engfa explained on the Woody Show, is that her feelings towards Charlotte are like those of a sister.
She always said that when the right time comes, there could be a 100% chance, but she never gave that chance to develop. (Because they both stated that they never met outside of work.)
Both admitted on the show that they have been with others. Do you think Engfa didn't meet anyone just because Charlotte was meeting someone?
I won't even mention the live broadcast at 4 in the morning; she was seriously psychologically broken in that live broadcast. We never knew what was going on between them, and she still defended Engfa in that broadcast. (Remember the reactions she received after the broadcast.)
We have always seen that a step has always been taken by C in this relationship, we have never seen E take a step in this relationship. (After Charlotte confessed her feelings)
C has suffered for a few months, do you think a person without feelings would do this ? Why would a person do fan service using their emotions when both of them have already become well-known?
If you think that he is doing fan service, do not think that he is doing it unilaterally.
After saying that they are seeing others, don't forget the Fire Tiger, Aleove broadcasts, both of them are doing fan service then..
There is a situation like this, why would a person spend 200k to do fan service..
We will never be able to understand who is right or not in the events that have taken place, we just stick our noses into their lives by interpreting what we see. Let's not forget that there is only one thing they both want, that we should not interfere so much in their lives.
**Let's not forget the boss factor, they are both under a lot of pressure**
While we are commenting after this time, it is useful for us to comment taking into account the experiences of both sides. I don't think both of them are mentally well.
And one more thing for sure, both of them need to go to a couples therapist..
@@gakyuz98 You're here to say that she's pretty much perfect and has always been honest with us? right..... Charlotte said that she's a member of the LGBT community. Exact translation from their first live is Engfa asking her if she's LGBT and she said "yeah but I've never had a girlfriend". Charlotte even won awards as a celebrity who is part of the LGBT community. There are even polls where Engfa and Charlotte were being pinned against each other because they were both labeled as "LGBT idols or influencers" and Charlotte liked all of those polls and would even RT those things. Charlotte categorized herself as a member of the LGBT community. Charlotte considers herself as LGBT.
Charlotte said she REJECTED ENGFA because she IS NOT ATTRACTED TO WOMEN.
What Charlotte felt for Engfa is INFATUTUATION and it happens to straight women sometimes. That is not unique to Charlotte at all. It happens to other straight women.
Charlotte never tried dating other women or tried with other women even when Engfa encouraged her because Charlotte is straight as a ruler.
CHARLOTE WAS JUST BI-CURIOUS.
If Charlotte was actually attracted to women in general then she would've tried dating other women instead of going back to men. But she actually never stopped dating men even when Engfa hasn't rejected her yet.
Charlotte being inconsistent shouldn't be forgotten just because Engfa knew that Charlotte was dating those men on the side.
You're only seeing and hearing what you want. You only want to see the good side of Charlotte and not the real facts. Charlotte said it herself that she only felt WEAK when she started developing her feelings for Engfa. Charlotte said that on the Woody interview. I'm sure she told Engfa that beforehand so would it actually be a good relationship if Engfa took advantage of Charlotte during her WEAKEST stage? like they would only have a relationship just because Charlotte feels WEAK. You think that's good? and isn't that some type of an insult to have somebody develop feelings for you just because they feel WEAK?
How do you know what is fake and real from those pictures and video? did Charlotte personally told you that only two of them are real and which ones exactly? all Charlotte did after the Philippines concert is to acknowledge that what happened was irresponsible and that she admit that it's a mistake on her part. She said that those images were taken 4 months ago. But she officially moved to her new house on October. In August, she made a contract signing. In September, she was starting to buy things for her new house. In October, that is the time of the official moving in. Can't you see that the numbers doesn't add up? but even if it did, how can she keep on acting like she hasn't moved on from Engfa when the fact is that BL actor was already inside of her life? they weren't just "talking" because talking is what we're doing right now. People talk using words. What Charlotte has done with those men and especially that BL actor is physically be together with them in an intimate manner. Just the fact that Charlotte sent those images in a private group chat says it all. If it was just some random guy who had no romantic connection with her then she would've posted those things publicly because there is no malice whatsoever.
Charlotte wasn't just using her phone and talking to that BL actor. Charlotte allowed that BL actor to be shirtless on her couch. How many times do you need to hear this? if it was nothing and it wasn't a big deal, Charlotte wouldn't have sent those images to a private group chat with only 10 people.
Charlotte wouldn't have had to apologize and Nawat wouldn't have been concerned. Nawat already said that she cleans up Charlotte's mess all the time and he was talking about 3 specific times. Nawat even said that part of loving a celebrity is helping to manage their behavior. When they make a mistake, fan clubs should point it out and not just agree with everything that celebrity is saying. Nawat asked the fan club of Charlotte, "how many more times? how many more people? how many more incidents?" etc. That's his direct response to the fans saying that Charlotte needs to pay for her new house. Nawat said Charlotte should focus on working but she makes mistakes all the time. So that was his questions like "how many more times and all that".
@@gakyuz98 Engfa never made the first move on Charlotte when they both admitted to seeing "someone". Charlotte kept that act going though. Engfa was always just sitting or standing and minding her own business. Charlotte was always the one who made it look like she wants to physically get intimate with Engfa even after they both confessed that they were seeing "someone" already.
Engfa would even ask Charlotte's solo fans to help her with Charlotte because Charlotte was being too touchy. Engfa just smiled about it all the time because it's not like Engfa can actually physically hurt Charlotte by pushing her.
Was Engfa meeting and dating other women early this year right after Charlotte's concert? because Charlotte was already dating some man during that time. That rumor just like the rumor last year was true. Charlotte said it herself that she was dating two men after the USA trip.
How can you tell that Engfa never gave it a chance? have you forgotten that ENGFA WAS REJECTED FIRST and the reason is because CHARLOTTE IS NOT ATTRACTED TO WOMEN and this reason was hidden from everybody. The official reason that Charlotte gave to the public last year was because she doesn't want their working relationship to be toxic. Charlotte never said that she isn't really attracted to women.
But when Charlotte started developing feelings for one specific woman, it was only because CHARLOTTE FELT WEAK.
Charlotte was never attracted to other women in the way that she is very attracted to men. It's so easy for Charlotte to be attracted to men in general but not women. How can you not see that Charlotte was just BI-CURIOUS?
They don't even talk normally as friends because they have nothing in common. They look pretty as a shipping couple but they're not a good match.
Why would they go to a couple's therapy when they aren't even a couple? you guys are treating them like toys. It's okay to ship and imagine but know your limits. Englot started as an imaginary ship and it will end as an imaginary ship. Know your limits.
@@religiondoesntpaytaxes7861
I'm sorry, but you have a lot of hatred for Charlotte.
Yes, he has never lied to us and continues not to.
He admitted that everything was his fault, even though he was betrayed by a close friend, he did not 100% attribute the mistakes to others.
The last person who would use the LGBT community is charlotte.
If you imply that charlotte uses the LGBT community, I'll tell you like this, then why was Engfa asking every person she broadcast live during the MGT competition why are you an LGBT member or have you been with someone from the LGBT community? the person who wanted to use this community and become an agenda was Engfa at that time.
According to you, charlotte used it, according to me, she used it in Engfa. Since both of them use this community, there is no problem.
Falling in love with a person, feeding emotions already happens in such situations.
As a Software developer, I can understand which images are real - fake. People like you believe what they want to believe in this case.
Nawat always cleaned up Charlotte's mess, what kind of statement. He didn't do anything to clean up her mess, he humiliated her in front of people, she didn't do him professionally the way a company would.
Charlotte cleaned up her own situation, there was no need for Nawat to clean it up. If She had done something wrong, she wouldn't have gone to the media and cleared the situation. And the reason Charlotte remained silent was because she was betrayed by the person closest to her.
And there was no mess to clean up. People may have friends, their closeness or distance is none of our business, this is not our life.
Because of people who are heavily obsessed with ships, people cannot have normal friends and cannot share on social media.
Both of them clearly knew a few months ago that they were not in a relationship. Why is it so difficult for them to meet others? This is their life. (Although EL has already said that they are meeting with others, do not think that Engfa is not meeting anyone because there are no images of her, she is just being smart)
Remember that Engfa already wants Charlotte to talk to other people.
Nawat needs EL, the two of them bring in 70% of the company's revenue. He must be behind them. Unfortunately, he uses them as slaves. I hope you see this and feel sorry for their situation.
It wouldn't do us any good to comment further because they are both happy with their situation and there are no problems between them.
Stop creating problems.
Don't be so nosy and toxic about other people's lives. Know your limits when interfering in other people's lives. This is not your life.
Remember that our comments do not affect their lives either.
Go out and touch some grass. You're too angry about this life that doesn't belong to you.
@@gakyuz98 Oh and about that 200,000 baht? so what though? does that mean she's a real bisexual? for me, it was an effective MARKETING TOOL or an INVESTMENT. She will get that amount back and would definitely earn more money in the future because the shippers were happy with what she did.
pfa said try to date women. char dated men. 😂 straight women. u cant live w/ them u cant live without them.😘 i said what i said. char is straight. 🤷
That woman Engfa was with , she talked Engfa into doing a photo shoot with her, that’s pissed boss off . Engfa’s bullsh*ting everyone on that live . Personally I think she was burnt out and her and that woman just took and she didn’t do anything she was supposed to be doing. She lied to the boss , that’s why he got pissed off . This woman used Engfa . Engfa just blocked everything and everyone. No communication at all . Engfa just took off , point blank period. She had a things she was supposed to be doing as a queen. I really really like Engfa but she messed up bad .She was contiplating being with this woman. She got tired of chasing Charlotte and Charlotte wasn’t interested then . Vicki you know how it was between them in the beginning.
I heard about this drama. It was not cute at all. even through all of this Charlotte was there for Engfa.
One thing that I would like to say Enfga and Charlotte are in a very difficult situation. First and most important what need to remember is that there contracts are till 2029. Engfa owes a bg favor to Boss. Don't forget he paid for the lawsuit of the record deal she had with those people when she was young.
Has much as we all know that they truly love each other. They are to many things in their way they have o work together for 6 more years. To me what really bothers me its that They both work day and night.
The boss gets 40% of what they make. They are the ones keeping that company afloat. I honestly don't care for the Boss everything he does has do with money.
If he wants them to not be together than that what they have to do. Lets not also forget that Engfa has a 7 years dating ban.
So it's a lot of pressure on both of them but more on Engfa.
Watching the final video engfa's tik tok is 🤬.. now that Charlotte is going through something similar the engfa is not by her side.. what changed in a few days? Oh man 😶
I'm just sad about that...😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
EF needs to be there for her . not aoom, meena , the team but EF............
because unconditional love never fails it shows up always friends, sister. moved on regardless 😌
Love shows up..........😢😢
So i hope EF does in a huge way. This is not the time for ego's and pride.
This is the time to be there for the sake of helping her grow healthier mentally..... i want say anymore but this is not the time for EF to wait for a call from Char...... She needs to pick up the phone and be there 🙄 😒 😑 😩 😭
When are you guys going to give Engfa a break. Everything involving drama's you guys drag Engfa into it. It's like you guys always want her to be the one in the wrong. Engfa don't even have enough time for sleeping and you guys also want her to babysit Charlotte.
@@greatnesswalking The Engfa has her career, she doesn't have time to pick up a phone 🤣
The situation is different. Last year, people knew they actually were nothing. But this year, the biggest problem is that more than 90% of trolls think they're together, and Engfa get cheated. Which is not true. Engfa clarified things between them is wayyyy better than say something make people think Char belongs to her. How you can't see the overall situation just want blaming one another. It's always happening. Some of fans turned to be trolls without realizing it.
@@雪と梅I understand what you're saying, but work together to entertain the world. . Now we see two people who look like they're bored. It's better to stop cooperating than for the world to see two people who almost don't speak. Sorry about my English, but I hope you understand what I mean.
It's funny how you keep reacting when they are not shipped again
Engfa need to be completely out of Charlotte, she's already help her to be popular .