Deadlock was already good at making on-the-fly holds. The wall buff, and especially the sonic sensor buffs lean into this aspect so well, which helps distinguish her further from other sentinels.
Started maining Deadlock a while back because she's fits my trap and contain playstyle a bit more than Cypher, my previous main. The wall buff is kinda nutty but the ability to pick up trips is singlehandedly my favorite buff they're adding. As Cypher I'd always grab a trip or two while leaving a site to make sure I have a little util outside of cam for retakes which often throws people off guard, causing them to accidentally stumble into them. So being able to freely setup fully with Deadlock on a site without worrying about having zero util for retakes is extremely nice. I also like that they left her key weakness intact of her not having good util for watching flanks. She'll be much stronger at what she does while still having clear flaws to be able to play around her.
This is actually making me feel very happy. I've been maining Deadlock ever since she came out because I don't have a very good aim. I wasn't expecting a buff for her.
I'm actually unsure if the buffs will make her all that powerful for the average player. The wall will for sure be fantastic regardless of skill level, but the rest of her kit does need some level of thought behind it to use. Regardless I'm glad she's getting some love. She's one of my favorite characters, and I might just pick her up again. I've always felt like she's a strange mix of Breach and Cypher, which are both my mains lol.
one mistake ppl do is to treat the traps like its a trip. it should be played more close to you where theres a big chance the enemies make sound (drop, defuse, a zipline) and play of it once it gets triggered its an ez kill. the DL net is more used to combo with mollies. creative lineups for it can be game changing. i can see DL gonna be picked more in proplay now
imagine one choke point and u have two traps that activate at the same time. thats a sure kill there. in some cases its better than a cypher trip coz you dont need contact just sound so you rly have to force the enemy to make sounds
I’ve been playing her a bunch lately and I’ve been doing pretty well since I learned from watching ur streams! She’s so much fun and I can’t wait for the update
Better than KJ? Do you think the buffs compensate for sensors not being anti-lurk like alarmbot / turret and KJ ult being used on offense/defense to clear a site + molly lineups?
Yes, not all maps but mostly yes. Alarmbot for anti lurk is good but that’s about it. It’s like when I played solo sentinel on Sage, you couldn’t hold flanks with util but she was still an amazing solo sentinel. The same applies here. Got to ask yourself, how often are you dying from lurks and what’s the reason you’ve died. 9/10 times it’s bad awareness and map control. Not util
@@FlowAscending I think a lot of people focus way too much on the idea of sentinels being anti-flank. While yes, sentinels are the main agent type that can usually hold a flank, they're capable of far more than that as seen with Sage, Deadlock, and even Chamber to a degree. Is it nice having a tripwire/alarmbot/trademark on the flank? Yes. But you can also just have a single person watch the flank if you honestly believe someone is going to be flanking. Flanks only work because they catch everyone with their backs turned. Just having one set of eyes behind is more than enough to shut down the usefulness of a flank. That's the big reason why I like that they're focusing on deadlock's strengths and leaving her weaknesses intact. She has a clear weakness both sides have to play around but she's going to be much stronger in her strong areas. They easily could've just said, "Nah. She'll just be a jack of all trades" and made her anti-flank better, but then she'd just be a bog standard sentinel with nothing that really makes her stand out.
In pro play it is mandatory to get map control with the sentinels covering choke points to be more focused on other sides of a map. And if the other team sees that you don't have trips they will inevitably flank every round.@@jasonfoxfire9563
I find that so funny cause like in Pro Play for example, well I guess this is where most of their balancing ideology comes from, the mindset of anti-flank literally is usually one person holding back like a Viper/Omen/Astra even lol so when people say "sentinel is flank watch", I'm like...right.@@jasonfoxfire9563
when seeing the thumbnail I thought it was a joke like "haha deadlock so bad imma make a bait" but this sh*ts actually good like REALLY good I might just try and play her now
Honestly, she's been my go to for most maps and now bitches gonna instalock her and throw the game because they don't understand how to actually play her.
The big problem with deadlocks traps was that they can’t hold flank no? Maybe now you use the wall to hold flank instead but if you need to rotate you could be in trouble
I think if you pick dl, you aren't really trying to hold flank, her utils are just not for that. She feels more like an offensive sentinel, like a hybrid sentinel-initiator. The net is great for taking space, wall to reduce possible entries and ultimate to clear angles. Sensor is also good for holding spike and certain areas of the map.
Please never use deadlock to hold flank. That’s not what the agent is designed to do. That’s like saying just cause Sage is a sentinel you’re supposed to use her wall to wall the flank? Not all sentinels have the same role, Deadlock should be used to create space and anchor sites
@@FlowAscendingone of deadlock’s weaknesses is anchoring. Because her utility doesn’t actually pick up slow lurks, it’s better to have an agent that can play off of your traps and hold an angle safely for when the enemies execute. Otherwise, they likely just shoot her traps, and leave her without util she can actually play off of. Also, her wall, and grav net are both really good for retakes, so it’s typically more necessary there than for her to anchor. You’re not wrong about anything else, but I think it’s an important aspect of her kit, knowing that you give up being able to anchor a site yourself, and rather set it up for an ally.
@@adamnguyen966 Judging by what you said it sounds like you genuinely don't know how to play the agent. Honestly if you get the chance, pop in on my stream and hang out to see how I swing with her on my traps etc, she's incredibly strong. Most people are playing her wrong, thats the problem
@@FlowAscending I just watched 2 of your videos and you’re never anchoring a site. You have full util up on retakes, so I’m genuinely confused, because I don’t know if you mean she’s good at holding a site, because there’s a big difference between being able to play off executes, and lurks/rotates
Always always go into a custom to experiment. There’s no way you’re ever pulling out actual lineups in a comp game without practice and repetition to remember them
I still dont think she will get picked at tournaments, cypher,kj even chamber are better when it comes to practicality of their ult. And the moment deadlock is picked players are super aware and never rush blindly have to see how pros use her
Main issue here would be breaking deadlocks wall Like in ascent A site, just throw the wall on side next to entrance (means the wall will be unbreakable because enemy can't see the ciricle ____wall____(entrance)____wall__ Blocks O-------------o I (deadlock wall) I I I o
@@FlowAscending for clarification I never used deadlock, does the wall need to have same distance each line? Or It's ok to have 1 wall long that the wall closet to wall I didn't add the 2 extra small circle since the type keep changing the spaces and lining
I started playing more deadlock and fade because i liked there kit now it might seem ill drop my duelist main phoenix and play Cypher and Deadlocl moslty
ITS THE SMELLY 98 DEMON GOING 37 14! WATCH OUT! who is running into deadlocks sonic sensor like a NPC? lol the shorty kill on noodle when you aced was personal, i can clearly see that
I agree imo they should buff his wall so it would stay longer and his orb would have a little bit more HP and 6 points ult maybe i think it would a great buff
As a non-deadlock main, i agree with this buff. Now they need to buff judge back to 7 ammos. It's already one of the low tier main weapon, no need to make ot lower 😂
"There is no reason to pick sage over deadlock" Sage wall denies info. Sage has a heal. Sage has a rez. Sage has two slow orbs instead of just one net. There are a lot of reasons to pick sage over deadlock. These buffs are nice, but to say there is "no reason to pick sage over deadlock" is WILDLY overstating your case. There are good reasons to pick deadlock and good reasons to pick sage. There are trade offs with either one.
Its the overall worth of the abilities I'm evaluating. Yes Sage has heal but general Skye is a top tier initiator pick who can also heal and mulitple allies at the same time. Sage wall denies visual info but has half the HP of a Deadlock wall so takes much less bullets and time to regain control of that area. Sage has a rez which is very good obviously since it's her ult but thats what ults are meant to be, good. Sage has two slor orbs which in total decrease movement for 8 seconds where as the gravnet could make the enemy full stopped indefinitely AND can provide info as the enemy literally have to pull it out to move on. I understand what you're trying to say and don't get me wrong theres no one thats loved Sage more than me. As I said I have over 10k hours on her but these buffs absolutely tank over Sages abilities
"these buffs absolutely tank over Sages abilities" I completely disagree. Skye is a completely different agent and has nothing to do with the comparison so that point is null and void. Saying Sage's rez is her ult and it's supposed to be good has nothing to do with the comparison. With that same logic Deadlock's ult is "supposed to be good" so the almost guaranteed kill doesn't matter. The HP of Sage's wall is in reference to each individual section. If you compare it to each leg of Deadlock's wall then they're on par. If you dodge the net, then you can immediately take space back. With Sage's orbs, you can't take it back as immediately. And there's two of them. AGAIN, both agents have their trade offs. I'm not saying Deadlock is a bad pick. I'm saying there are trade offs with either one and saying that there is "no reason" to pick Sage is a WILD overstatement of your case. I really don't care how much you love or don't love Sage. My problem is with your comparison in saying there is "no reason to pick Sage." That's asinine. There are multiple reasons to choose one over the other.
As a deadlock main , i always know her value. I don't care what people say:- she is useless xyz. But few players like us know that she is an Broken player. She got absolute defence and offence. I can't remember how many matches i win using deadlock 🎉🎉
Why would you think that, it completely slows movement, stunts aim and can now be repositioned infinite amount of times. It’s already good in Immortal 3 where I play, now it’s gonna be nuts
that's only true if you would use it as a flank watch when compared to 3 other sentinels (kj, cypher, chamber) it's obviously useless. But her sonic sensors are more comparable to Sage's slow orbs i.e. are used more effectively during defense/post-plants where it can punish rushes and wide swings The buff to her sensors just made it more comparable as a "deployable" sage slow rather than a flank watcher
@@FlowAscending It seems more situational than other "trips" on similar agents. Its use is now more offensive and used for close angles or to stop rushes. It's flank detection is not reliable by any means. I am very willing to be wrong. And I hope it succeeds.
@@Jovi_97 I get confused why people would ever assume Deadlocks util is to hold flank. That’s not how she was designed, it’s like saying just cause Sage is a sentinel her wall should be used to stop flanks? Her kit is to deny the enemy from retaking once the spike is planted and on CT side is to stop pushes
@@FlowAscending What I am trying to respectfully argue for is, that it is NOT meant to hold flank, and is therefore often worse than most other sentinels abilities with similar funktion that can do both. So maybe not useless, but limited. Sage has the benefit of the slow orbs being instant and not having to be setup.
As a deadlock main, these buffs do not change her gameplay at all. She is still just pretty good at her job, and still completely useless at the stuff people hate her for. Y'all are falling SO HARD for the clickbait. Flow is well aware she is still the worst agent in the game. I'm niot saying she is bad, she is just not versatile without her ult. She is worse at defending a site than Killjoy, but would not really compare her playstyle to KJ, she is mechanically a fusion of Cypher and Sage. however cypher can watch flank on attack, and sage can heal her team and has a better ultimate. Deadlock gets ZERO value from any of her abilities, unless she sticks around to swing off of them, putting herself in danger each time, and has no regenerating abilities at all. A better buff would be to make her wall regenerate every 45 seconds after use, considering its REALLY NOT THAT STRONG AT ALL. it can be broken easily, and is mostly used to get info or stall a push for a few seconds.
Most hilarious comment I’ve seen yet. “Flow is well aware she is still the worst agent in the game”. My guy, I’ve just finished an 11 hour stream with over 75% winrate on Deadlock after 17 games… I’m top 50 EU currently just playing Deadlock. What are you talking about? She’s far superior than every sentIntel other ff than Cypher at this point and the proof is literally in my games today. Just tune in for a stream or two and maybe you could learn how to play her properly. Seems more like a misunderstanding of what the agent is rather than how good or bad the agent is
@@UnrulySpirituality777 Deadlock is essentially supposed to deny pushes and retakes. She’s not a sentinel to hold flank but should be played more aggressively to get into sites and gain information with her gravnet and then use sonic sensors and wall to stop the retake when the spike is planted. When you’re on CT side you’re simply trying to deny or split the enemies push. Use the util to swing at the right time and get easy kills. If you watch my videos or streams it’s much easier to understand over time
Sage walls don't have lineups that let you block off early rotations on smaller maps, like on ascent you can block of the mid to tree entrance in pistol when you're 5 maning main
Also a lot of the time the fact that the wall is diagonal makes in so enemies can take the space made where the 4 walls converge, get a pick, and fall back where they can’t be traded. It’s a bit like a bad smoke where either team can play around it, but more often then not it’s the enemy
"The only advantage sage now has off deadlock is boosting urself", bro sage can heal, res and has a slow which can be triggered whenever she wants, deadlock is still the worst agent, competing with iso
Why not play Skye to heal though? More healing output + better utility for entrying and aiding the team. My point was Deadlock has now taken Sages main role which is slowing down pushes and stopping retakes. Sages core gameplay is not healing
@@FlowAscending the thing is skye can't heal herself AND her teammates. You may not play Sage as a healer but there are a lot of people who play sage for healing. I know there are self healing agents like Reyna and Pheonix but there are also people who would rather not be duelists.
@@iwannabeanelfyaknow the self heal is 30hp brother. That’s 1 bullet of damage and it’s gone. I know what you’re trying to say but just trust me on this one. I’ve been playing nothing but Sage for almost 4 years now and with all the nerfs she’s had and the recent Deadlock buffs, Deadlock is far more viable in a team comp now
@@iwannabeanelfyaknow oh absolutely no shade bro, sage is still my favourite agent and probably always will be. I just meant it from an actual effective point of view with utility. Realistically you can be good at any agent no matter the nerfs or buffs as long as you apply your own play style. But this videos was meant for general advice to the average players
"Strongest agent of 2024" , with over 1k games on deadlock i wish this was true but lets be real its not LOL, but its a step in the right direction compared to the shit grenade buff.
I honestly didn't like playing deadlock, so I ended up not getting her, but this just gets me a bit upset since I am a KJ main who noticed that KJ was getting nerfed (with her turret going from 180 degrees to only 100) because the wall is so strong and can really just take over the game completely, I mean its cool and I support it, but hopefully KJs future gets better 😭
Deadlock was already good at making on-the-fly holds. The wall buff, and especially the sonic sensor buffs lean into this aspect so well, which helps distinguish her further from other sentinels.
Man, as a deadlock main this makes me so happy. Keep up the good work, Flow!
Deadlock mains rise up!
I’d rather her stay under the radar
There are dead lock mains also😭😂
Me to man!
You exist?
Started maining Deadlock a while back because she's fits my trap and contain playstyle a bit more than Cypher, my previous main. The wall buff is kinda nutty but the ability to pick up trips is singlehandedly my favorite buff they're adding. As Cypher I'd always grab a trip or two while leaving a site to make sure I have a little util outside of cam for retakes which often throws people off guard, causing them to accidentally stumble into them. So being able to freely setup fully with Deadlock on a site without worrying about having zero util for retakes is extremely nice. I also like that they left her key weakness intact of her not having good util for watching flanks. She'll be much stronger at what she does while still having clear flaws to be able to play around her.
I think he sonic sensors (for attacking) are meant to punish aggressive retakes especially on common angles where shooting happens
This is actually making me feel very happy. I've been maining Deadlock ever since she came out because I don't have a very good aim. I wasn't expecting a buff for her.
by any chance ur an cypher main?
I'm actually unsure if the buffs will make her all that powerful for the average player. The wall will for sure be fantastic regardless of skill level, but the rest of her kit does need some level of thought behind it to use.
Regardless I'm glad she's getting some love. She's one of my favorite characters, and I might just pick her up again. I've always felt like she's a strange mix of Breach and Cypher, which are both my mains lol.
As a DL main, I can play a good mix of defense and offense with DL but the kit made it difficult. Now the buff is gonna make it a hell lot easier
one mistake ppl do is to treat the traps like its a trip. it should be played more close to you where theres a big chance the enemies make sound (drop, defuse, a zipline) and play of it once it gets triggered its an ez kill. the DL net is more used to combo with mollies. creative lineups for it can be game changing. i can see DL gonna be picked more in proplay now
imagine one choke point and u have two traps that activate at the same time. thats a sure kill there. in some cases its better than a cypher trip coz you dont need contact just sound so you rly have to force the enemy to make sounds
deadlock is going to be insane. i play her a bunch so ill instalock her always
The wall buff is actually insane. will increase her pickrate way beyond!
same
Deadlock mains are eating so good after so long yessss
As the only fucker who played 450 matches of deadlock immortal EU I see this as a win.
1:49 or, yknow, bring back teammates from the dead
I’ve been playing her a bunch lately and I’ve been doing pretty well since I learned from watching ur streams! She’s so much fun and I can’t wait for the update
Awesome, she really needed that trap retake.
And now blocking off the spike from defuse is easier
As a hardstuck diamond deadlock main, I'm glad to see the agent getting better as I am aswell
Now the slides ontop of the deadlock wall are huge
Cool video, I'll def be trying her more often now!
Better than KJ? Do you think the buffs compensate for sensors not being anti-lurk like alarmbot / turret and KJ ult being used on offense/defense to clear a site + molly lineups?
Yes, not all maps but mostly yes. Alarmbot for anti lurk is good but that’s about it. It’s like when I played solo sentinel on Sage, you couldn’t hold flanks with util but she was still an amazing solo sentinel. The same applies here. Got to ask yourself, how often are you dying from lurks and what’s the reason you’ve died. 9/10 times it’s bad awareness and map control. Not util
@@FlowAscending I think a lot of people focus way too much on the idea of sentinels being anti-flank. While yes, sentinels are the main agent type that can usually hold a flank, they're capable of far more than that as seen with Sage, Deadlock, and even Chamber to a degree. Is it nice having a tripwire/alarmbot/trademark on the flank? Yes. But you can also just have a single person watch the flank if you honestly believe someone is going to be flanking. Flanks only work because they catch everyone with their backs turned. Just having one set of eyes behind is more than enough to shut down the usefulness of a flank. That's the big reason why I like that they're focusing on deadlock's strengths and leaving her weaknesses intact. She has a clear weakness both sides have to play around but she's going to be much stronger in her strong areas. They easily could've just said, "Nah. She'll just be a jack of all trades" and made her anti-flank better, but then she'd just be a bog standard sentinel with nothing that really makes her stand out.
In pro play it is mandatory to get map control with the sentinels covering choke points to be more focused on other sides of a map. And if the other team sees that you don't have trips they will inevitably flank every round.@@jasonfoxfire9563
I find that so funny cause like in Pro Play for example, well I guess this is where most of their balancing ideology comes from, the mindset of anti-flank literally is usually one person holding back like a Viper/Omen/Astra even lol so when people say "sentinel is flank watch", I'm like...right.@@jasonfoxfire9563
WE USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS
5:18 is the combat report broken? It says deadlock killed with a vandal headshot but it was a shorty
Deadlock mains our time has come! And FlowAscending is our king!
Deadlock mains eating good can’t wait to make content on all this
Sick video mr flow 🔥🔥
when seeing the thumbnail I thought it was a joke like "haha deadlock so bad imma make a bait" but this sh*ts actually good like REALLY good I might just try and play her now
only thing that sucks is that im not gonna be the only one playing deadlock anymore
Wouldn’t it be cool if ability kills had the last kill sound, animation and finisher of the last equiped weapon?
Initial thought: yay my main is better!
Now: I am never gonna be able to play her again due to insta locks
Honestly, she's been my go to for most maps and now bitches gonna instalock her and throw the game because they don't understand how to actually play her.
Now she is living to her own name
Yoo I have a lotus b site sound sensor that barely worked since the range was too short, now it will work
Sonic Sensor range has not changed, only the activation time
@@FlowAscending u sure? I swear I remember hearing something abt the range
you cant recall sonic sensors mid round i thought
It’s in the buff, now you can 😄
ooohhhhh we are eating soo good tonight my fellow ståljeger
never been happier to be a dl main. ppl always shit on her but i felt like she was well balanced
That soundtrap buff is so nice, because most of my time jett or Neon is running my traps off😪
Im pretty sure they will nerf the wall as quick as possible, maybe to 7.5m or even 8m
no, deadlock's still bad but she's pickable
Tell me I’m not the only one who thought the thumbnail was clickbait just to be proven wrong
The big problem with deadlocks traps was that they can’t hold flank no? Maybe now you use the wall to hold flank instead but if you need to rotate you could be in trouble
I think if you pick dl, you aren't really trying to hold flank, her utils are just not for that. She feels more like an offensive sentinel, like a hybrid sentinel-initiator. The net is great for taking space, wall to reduce possible entries and ultimate to clear angles. Sensor is also good for holding spike and certain areas of the map.
Please never use deadlock to hold flank. That’s not what the agent is designed to do. That’s like saying just cause Sage is a sentinel you’re supposed to use her wall to wall the flank? Not all sentinels have the same role, Deadlock should be used to create space and anchor sites
@@FlowAscendingone of deadlock’s weaknesses is anchoring. Because her utility doesn’t actually pick up slow lurks, it’s better to have an agent that can play off of your traps and hold an angle safely for when the enemies execute. Otherwise, they likely just shoot her traps, and leave her without util she can actually play off of. Also, her wall, and grav net are both really good for retakes, so it’s typically more necessary there than for her to anchor. You’re not wrong about anything else, but I think it’s an important aspect of her kit, knowing that you give up being able to anchor a site yourself, and rather set it up for an ally.
@@adamnguyen966 Judging by what you said it sounds like you genuinely don't know how to play the agent. Honestly if you get the chance, pop in on my stream and hang out to see how I swing with her on my traps etc, she's incredibly strong. Most people are playing her wrong, thats the problem
@@FlowAscending I just watched 2 of your videos and you’re never anchoring a site. You have full util up on retakes, so I’m genuinely confused, because I don’t know if you mean she’s good at holding a site, because there’s a big difference between being able to play off executes, and lurks/rotates
If still think we need to nerf chamber and take all Jets abilities
hi, just out of curiosity, how do you experiment to find unorthodox lineups? do you use a custom game by yourself or just yolo it in game
Always always go into a custom to experiment. There’s no way you’re ever pulling out actual lineups in a comp game without practice and repetition to remember them
Here comes the Sonic Sensei. 😅
I still dont think she will get picked at tournaments, cypher,kj even chamber are better when it comes to practicality of their ult. And the moment deadlock is picked players are super aware and never rush blindly have to see how pros use her
i'm a deadlock main and seeing your plays as her makes me so :D
So good to see deadlock buffs haha, i know im a bit late to the party but its about time. she was the worst sentinel for a hot minute
Main issue here would be breaking deadlocks wall
Like in ascent A site, just throw the wall on side next to entrance (means the wall will be unbreakable because enemy can't see the ciricle
____wall____(entrance)____wall__
Blocks O-------------o
I (deadlock wall)
I
I
I
o
That’s not how the wall works, it’s never parallel to a choke point, it looks more like this X than this + if that makes sense
@@FlowAscending for clarification I never used deadlock, does the wall need to have same distance each line? Or It's ok to have 1 wall long that the wall closet to wall
I didn't add the 2 extra small circle since the type keep changing the spaces and lining
@@FlowAscending like this
____wall____(entrance)____wall__
Blocks. o |
Block o-O-------------o |
I (deadlock wall) door
I |
I
I
o
I started playing more deadlock and fade because i liked there kit now it might seem ill drop my duelist main phoenix and play Cypher and Deadlocl moslty
can i use my attack lineups to stop the defuse with the gravnet?
Time to see who actually "mains" cypher
Wait, would you lose if you ult but the time runs out?
I gotta start maining deadlock ASAP!
This update just killed Killjoy and every other sentinel :O
Yall been sleeping on my girl this whole time. Now is the time for Deadlock mains to rise up.
But guys any new agent this season??
You can block mid on breeze with e now lol
Can you make a vid with deadlock setups and ult lineups?
I got you!
ITS THE SMELLY 98 DEMON GOING 37 14! WATCH OUT!
who is running into deadlocks sonic sensor like a NPC? lol
the shorty kill on noodle when you aced was personal, i can clearly see that
deadlock looks fun now
She was always fun
Now that's a new controller 🙂🙂
“There is literally no reason to pick sage over deadlock anymore” but heals and res ;-;
no more "deadass", now she's "Deadlock"
Wtf the deadlock wall thing already has too much hp
Harbor needs a buff.
I agree imo they should buff his wall so it would stay longer and his orb would have a little bit more HP and 6 points ult maybe i think it would a great buff
I wanted to be a DL main, but people quit everytime I pick her. So maybe now’s the time
Practice in custom first and then go be a demon in ranked and prove them all wrong! 😄
As a non-deadlock main, i agree with this buff. Now they need to buff judge back to 7 ammos. It's already one of the low tier main weapon, no need to make ot lower 😂
11:52
I think KJs util is probably better than Deadlock at ascent and bind. But ok
This new agent is insane
Yes i love to play deadlock especially lotus
The best character in the game being buffed finally
Is that bachablox voice?
can you use Macha music again pls????
I'm gonna lose so badly against deadlocks lpl
Bro said sage only ability is grim walls
"There is no reason to pick sage over deadlock"
Sage wall denies info. Sage has a heal. Sage has a rez. Sage has two slow orbs instead of just one net. There are a lot of reasons to pick sage over deadlock. These buffs are nice, but to say there is "no reason to pick sage over deadlock" is WILDLY overstating your case. There are good reasons to pick deadlock and good reasons to pick sage. There are trade offs with either one.
Its the overall worth of the abilities I'm evaluating. Yes Sage has heal but general Skye is a top tier initiator pick who can also heal and mulitple allies at the same time. Sage wall denies visual info but has half the HP of a Deadlock wall so takes much less bullets and time to regain control of that area. Sage has a rez which is very good obviously since it's her ult but thats what ults are meant to be, good. Sage has two slor orbs which in total decrease movement for 8 seconds where as the gravnet could make the enemy full stopped indefinitely AND can provide info as the enemy literally have to pull it out to move on. I understand what you're trying to say and don't get me wrong theres no one thats loved Sage more than me. As I said I have over 10k hours on her but these buffs absolutely tank over Sages abilities
"these buffs absolutely tank over Sages abilities"
I completely disagree. Skye is a completely different agent and has nothing to do with the comparison so that point is null and void. Saying Sage's rez is her ult and it's supposed to be good has nothing to do with the comparison. With that same logic Deadlock's ult is "supposed to be good" so the almost guaranteed kill doesn't matter. The HP of Sage's wall is in reference to each individual section. If you compare it to each leg of Deadlock's wall then they're on par. If you dodge the net, then you can immediately take space back. With Sage's orbs, you can't take it back as immediately. And there's two of them. AGAIN, both agents have their trade offs. I'm not saying Deadlock is a bad pick. I'm saying there are trade offs with either one and saying that there is "no reason" to pick Sage is a WILD overstatement of your case. I really don't care how much you love or don't love Sage. My problem is with your comparison in saying there is "no reason to pick Sage." That's asinine. There are multiple reasons to choose one over the other.
Are you a sage player?
Man please dont play too good with Deadlock they will nerf chamber again..
wow they gave a huge buff to deadlock
i think its high time they should nerf chamber now !!!. Like who agrees
As a deadlock main , i always know her value. I don't care what people say:- she is useless xyz. But few players like us know that she is an Broken player. She got absolute defence and offence. I can't remember how many matches i win using deadlock 🎉🎉
i am maining her now
still gonna play jett
yea there is a reason to pick sage over deadlock. um the revive?
Yeah that’s the only thing, util wise the stats just don’t add up anymore. So throughout the game Deadlock provides more value
@@FlowAscending i could see that, deadlocks new wall looks crazy.
I feel deadlock is still kinda weak on attack.
What about my boy chamber😢
Fuck kj deadlock is my new best friend
and then they're gonna nerf her into the ground in a few months probably
bro what... where is the iso buff? Deadlock is literally insane compared to iso
its easier now to play deadlock
My boy harbor is still the worst smoke :(
Wth is happening there 11:53
I think the sound sensor will be mostly useless in higher elo still, but the upgrades to her wall is very good.
Why would you think that, it completely slows movement, stunts aim and can now be repositioned infinite amount of times. It’s already good in Immortal 3 where I play, now it’s gonna be nuts
that's only true if you would use it as a flank watch when compared to 3 other sentinels (kj, cypher, chamber) it's obviously useless.
But her sonic sensors are more comparable to Sage's slow orbs i.e. are used more effectively during defense/post-plants where it can punish rushes and wide swings
The buff to her sensors just made it more comparable as a "deployable" sage slow rather than a flank watcher
@@FlowAscending It seems more situational than other "trips" on similar agents. Its use is now more offensive and used for close angles or to stop rushes. It's flank detection is not reliable by any means.
I am very willing to be wrong. And I hope it succeeds.
@@Jovi_97 I get confused why people would ever assume Deadlocks util is to hold flank. That’s not how she was designed, it’s like saying just cause Sage is a sentinel her wall should be used to stop flanks? Her kit is to deny the enemy from retaking once the spike is planted and on CT side is to stop pushes
@@FlowAscending What I am trying to respectfully argue for is, that it is NOT meant to hold flank, and is therefore often worse than most other sentinels abilities with similar funktion that can do both. So maybe not useless, but limited. Sage has the benefit of the slow orbs being instant and not having to be setup.
As a deadlock main, these buffs do not change her gameplay at all. She is still just pretty good at her job, and still completely useless at the stuff people hate her for. Y'all are falling SO HARD for the clickbait. Flow is well aware she is still the worst agent in the game. I'm niot saying she is bad, she is just not versatile without her ult. She is worse at defending a site than Killjoy, but would not really compare her playstyle to KJ, she is mechanically a fusion of Cypher and Sage. however cypher can watch flank on attack, and sage can heal her team and has a better ultimate. Deadlock gets ZERO value from any of her abilities, unless she sticks around to swing off of them, putting herself in danger each time, and has no regenerating abilities at all. A better buff would be to make her wall regenerate every 45 seconds after use, considering its REALLY NOT THAT STRONG AT ALL. it can be broken easily, and is mostly used to get info or stall a push for a few seconds.
lot of bronze players in the comments thinking she is op now.
Most hilarious comment I’ve seen yet. “Flow is well aware she is still the worst agent in the game”. My guy, I’ve just finished an 11 hour stream with over 75% winrate on Deadlock after 17 games… I’m top 50 EU currently just playing Deadlock. What are you talking about? She’s far superior than every sentIntel other ff than Cypher at this point and the proof is literally in my games today. Just tune in for a stream or two and maybe you could learn how to play her properly. Seems more like a misunderstanding of what the agent is rather than how good or bad the agent is
still bad .. they dont touches the flank protection problem..
That’s not the purpose of the agent… it’s like Sage, it’s not Sages job to hold flank
What is her job exactly? Im having trouble with playstyle. Great video btw looking forward to watching your stream again.@@FlowAscending
@@UnrulySpirituality777 Deadlock is essentially supposed to deny pushes and retakes. She’s not a sentinel to hold flank but should be played more aggressively to get into sites and gain information with her gravnet and then use sonic sensors and wall to stop the retake when the spike is planted. When you’re on CT side you’re simply trying to deny or split the enemies push. Use the util to swing at the right time and get easy kills. If you watch my videos or streams it’s much easier to understand over time
@@FlowAscending yeah ok i see the point. I always forgot that sage is a sentinal because of the different kit.
still the wall is not as good as sages as you can shoot and see through it
Its stronger and much larger than Sages, in many ways its much better
Sage walls don't have lineups that let you block off early rotations on smaller maps, like on ascent you can block of the mid to tree entrance in pistol when you're 5 maning main
Also a lot of the time the fact that the wall is diagonal makes in so enemies can take the space made where the 4 walls converge, get a pick, and fall back where they can’t be traded. It’s a bit like a bad smoke where either team can play around it, but more often then not it’s the enemy
This is real?
can u still boost you up?
Unfortunately not
Deadlock ult is still broken I demand a nerf after being wrapped with it about 20x this game 😭
fr tho flow is best deadlock main D:
"The only advantage sage now has off deadlock is boosting urself", bro sage can heal, res and has a slow which can be triggered whenever she wants, deadlock is still the worst agent, competing with iso
I'm tired of replying to these comments, just watch the content I put out in the next few days :D
Ayyyy not cool with the sage slander. Sage is a healer. thats her main point.
Why not play Skye to heal though? More healing output + better utility for entrying and aiding the team. My point was Deadlock has now taken Sages main role which is slowing down pushes and stopping retakes. Sages core gameplay is not healing
@@FlowAscending the thing is skye can't heal herself AND her teammates. You may not play Sage as a healer but there are a lot of people who play sage for healing. I know there are self healing agents like Reyna and Pheonix but there are also people who would rather not be duelists.
@@iwannabeanelfyaknow the self heal is 30hp brother. That’s 1 bullet of damage and it’s gone. I know what you’re trying to say but just trust me on this one. I’ve been playing nothing but Sage for almost 4 years now and with all the nerfs she’s had and the recent Deadlock buffs, Deadlock is far more viable in a team comp now
@@FlowAscending ayyy i never mean it as a negative thing im just saying no shades for an agent because another got buffed
@@iwannabeanelfyaknow oh absolutely no shade bro, sage is still my favourite agent and probably always will be. I just meant it from an actual effective point of view with utility. Realistically you can be good at any agent no matter the nerfs or buffs as long as you apply your own play style. But this videos was meant for general advice to the average players
tf is riot doing
Alright cool now let chamber change spots with a less cool down for the love of all things holy lmfao
I love you flow
"Strongest agent of 2024" , with over 1k games on deadlock i wish this was true but lets be real its not LOL, but its a step in the right direction compared to the shit grenade buff.
On my way to abuse deadlock😁😁
Time to nerf Chamber
I honestly didn't like playing deadlock, so I ended up not getting her, but this just gets me a bit upset since I am a KJ main who noticed that KJ was getting nerfed (with her turret going from 180 degrees to only 100) because the wall is so strong and can really just take over the game completely, I mean its cool and I support it, but hopefully KJs future gets better 😭
buff cypher
Deadlock useless??!? It was never ;-;