@@contentm3893 If you define value in a camera to be tied to the manufacturers color science, you have very limited capability to use these tools for creative purposes.
I agree, either ungraded with a CST to REC709 or with a custom look showcasing how flexible the footage is but without bloom or halation, which I find quite distracting.
@@Thomasm-x7r Hey, just one of many possible looks, if you go to to the following link and scroll down you can download a couple of Braw clips. www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursacine/gallery
Yes, I like the grade but the Dr doesn't look great, it's a pretty contrasty look. Even on the jb launch footage, the shadows don't seem to have a lot of detail. This is just judging by what I'm seeing, not pixel peeping. Might be an artistic choice but you'd think you'd really want to show case the Dr if it was that good. I'm currently shooting on a monstro, and the Dr I see from that looks waaay better
I had a peek at your YT videos (and also your website/IMDB page…wow!) and noticed you have pretty much done exclusively BMD camera tests on this platform. Does BMD come to you to film test footage? How would you rate this camera in relation to other cameras you’ve used in the past? Nice work, and thanks!
Hey, yeah I beta test for them, I have always thought them to be innovative, making affordABLE presser cameras that make great images. Yes, I have uses Alexa as my primary digital camera. I have to say this new Ursa Cine FF camera his a home run, I want to shoot a movie on this camera,. I certainly have had much to say to BM about building a professional cinema camera.. They have certainly done it with this camera.. Crazy good
Hey, so for e personally, I have never like RED camera.'s. I was forced into using the Raptor XL on a project and honestly not impressed. I love the Alexa for sure especially the Alexa 35 but this camera is getting close for sure. I mage wise there certainly isn't an $80K difference. There is so much about this camera to like!
@@vanceburberry710 thanks so much the response and from what I’m gathering ARRI Alexa is still on top but ursa cine is on it tail one last question if you don’t mind why don’t big studios acquire the Blackmagic systems to make features like the ARRI , SONY and REDS
@@mcneilbelle To be honest, Blackmagic have been on a journey developing cameras for the prosumer market. Cameras with great image quality at lowe cost. The New Ursa Cine LF and also the upcoming Ursa 17K 65 Cameras have been developing for the pro market, Now I believe these will be used by many mor on the proeffrsnal level. Certainly this camera fulfills what I have been missing g in earlier models. These camera confirm to industry standards which is huge. Cannot wait to shoot a film on these.
@@vanceburberry710 the Ursa mini 12k Olpf is used daily across the industry mostly for vfx plates, and virtual volumes, which currently most sort after time saving workflow especially for tv. the only reason why it isn't used as the main camera is the DR and Dual Native absence (Venice). in regular broadcast tv, smaller tv stations have all adopted BMD broadcast cameras, mainly for the archival workflow and solid DNXHD proxies which work with Avid.
Wow very impressive image quality and outstanding camera work superb job bro 🙏 question for you blackmagic doesn’t make it clear How we get the footage off the camera and on to our computers do you mind telling us
Verry simple, insert whatever media card you used in camera into a card specific to type of card. Normally I would connect and external drive top my computer due to size of files, then connect media card via card reader. select all files and drag and drop onto external drive or into folder you have created on you computer. Now you can bring into DaVinci resolve for edit and color. If this is professional use then it's a good idea to transfer files via a program called Shotput. This will check the integrity of files as you are bringing them in..
Hey so I operated camera but had a focus puller. With FF lenses it can be tough. As this is a serious cinema camera chances are you would have a focus puller. That being said with the right system you could pull pretty well.
@@vanceburberry710 That's my biggest problem... I need to be able to operate solo. So I'm on a7iv and sony lenses to help me with the focus. My dream is to be able to go with Blackmagic and Anamorphic lenses...
@@omidpakbin OK so take a look at the DIJ LIDAR system. can works as completely auto focus system www.dji.com/focus-pro?site=brandsite&from=landing_page#76033. Or you can use the Tilta Nucieus M system that will give you focus control on handheld grips.tilta.com/shop/nucleus-m-wireless-follow-focus/ This will work for you. Believe me this camera is mind blowing, I would shoot a movie with this, it's that good.
@@vanceburberry710 Awesome! And of course we all have to remember, this fantastic video that you uploaded is 90% YOU, 10% gear. Your work shines the most. Looking forward to seeing more from you. And I will look into the DJI LIDAR + BMPCC 6K full-frame opengate as it's way more affordable for me compared to Cine 12K. Pyxis is on my mind too - waiting for the reviews to come out.
The cinematography is great. Everything looks very good. But, for 12K, I was expecting sharper, more detailed images. Maybe, this was intentional, but in thet case, I would like to see this camera showing its true potential.
Hey so this is an h265 with RUclips compression. The pro res master looks a lot better. That being said for me it’s about over sampling and have a great image not about sharpness. I’m not a fan of overly sharp. But that’s just my preference. If you want sharp this camera will certainly deliver. The hi res of the on a HDR monitor is beautiful
It’s not a Bayer sensor, a larger array of photosites are used to derive color per pixel, so the ballpark resolving power per pixel density is not on the same scale here. I would assume the actual resolving power is closer to 4k. But the benefit of this sensor is channel uniformity, which is likely also the case for resolution. Alexa for example has very poor resolving power for the blue channel, and about the same for the green and red.
Not to be so harsh but used the 12k camera with anamorphic lenses, filters and post processing which basically softened the image overall. This hardly shows off the 12k potential since it also ends up downsampled in the end anyways.xD I can't tell the difference between this and a downsampled 4k-8k camera.
Yeah, this is not the place to see its full potential, but it's not about the pixels for me as much as the quality of image. This has been color graded no softening. The images compare in my opinion to the top 4k-8k cameras at a fraction of the cost.
You're never going to see the "12k potential". Outside of reframing, 8k is far beyond what anyone can see in terms of quality improvement. Most people don't sit close enough to displays to see the full benefit of 4k. Even if there were 12k displays, your eyes are the weakest link in that equation.
@@DragoTJ Because 65MM and higher resolution is the future, The 65mm camera will be ideal for capture for virtual productions. and as good as this sensor is, you will have a 65mm camera for 30K . Some serious players are going to buy these cameras. Large high resolution images are the future.
@@DragoTJ Why they go for that resolution, I have no idea... Imax don't project at higher than dual 4k which gives something similar to 6k. But why they go for that sensor size is something else entirely. 65mm is an almost-mythical format that only a reserve few have gotten to use. If Arri opened that format up for a lot more people, BMD are trying to democratize it. The thing they gave going for them is the fact that you can shoot at lower resolutions without cropping the sensor. So the max resolution doesn't really matter too much. If you were forced to shoot at 12k or 17k, it would make both of these cameras a lot less useful.
I love the film look which is intentional , this is also an h265 so compressed. The pro-res master looks amazing but kinda wasted on RUclips. Go to this page and you can download a couple of Braw clips so see clean 12kwww.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursacine/gallery
Thanks, so 2 parts to this, this new RGBW sensor is incredibly good with excellent color science, then of course Blackmagic Braw. Then you an excellent grade by the colorist.
I don't get people who write 'test' and then put a supersized grade as subtle as a serving of chillies on a plate of truffles, plus all other kinds of image corrupting stuff like grads, vignettes etc. You may as well have shot it on a mirrorless then. Looks fantastic and nicely shot, don't get me wrong... but, a camera test??
I do understand your point but for me I want to know that I can get the look I want which is this, I have never likes the standard neutral test approach but thats just me. Also if you want to download some Braw clips to see ungraded footage www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursacine/gallery I certainly appreciate your comments and as I said I do understand your point of view.
@@matthewphillips5483 I I I love the Alexa but it’s not 60k better than this camera. This camera is going to shake things up big time. Especially the 65 mm version.
@@matthewphillips5483 Thats a pretty rude response. As I said the Alexa is an incredible camera, which I use constantly. But image wise there is not a 60K difference, It has nothing to do with being broke, not all film makers are wealthy like you apparently are. This is a very affordable camera that produces a great image. Maybe you work for ARRI? FYI you are looking at a compressed RUclips file so????
@@vanceburberry710 Do you think the 17k will offer FF and Super 35 crops that are as good as this 12k camera? I'm trying to decide if I should wait since the 12k is available now. The 65mm format wouldn't be needed for all project but I also don't want a bunch of bodies sitting around.
Creative choice plus the RUclips compression doesn't help. Pro res 422HQ Master looks great though I much prefer contrast and a little on the darker side. Actually for me thats a compliment.
Nice Vance! Can’t wait to get my hands on the Ursa. The Cooke lenses are just downright beautiful
Beautiful cinematography and the colours...oh Lord, the colours...
looks like RED colors
Looks bad
@@chicobraz4335 I'm talking about the over saturation.
@@contentm3893get your exes checked and buy a propper screen
@@contentm3893 If you define value in a camera to be tied to the manufacturers color science, you have very limited capability to use these tools for creative purposes.
Looks cool. I wish there were some clips ungraded just a rec709 conversion, to judge dynamic range.
I agree, either ungraded with a CST to REC709 or with a custom look showcasing how flexible the footage is but without bloom or halation, which I find quite distracting.
@@Thomasm-x7r Hey, just one of many possible looks, if you go to to the following link and scroll down you can download a couple of Braw clips. www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursacine/gallery
Yes, I like the grade but the Dr doesn't look great, it's a pretty contrasty look. Even on the jb launch footage, the shadows don't seem to have a lot of detail. This is just judging by what I'm seeing, not pixel peeping. Might be an artistic choice but you'd think you'd really want to show case the Dr if it was that good. I'm currently shooting on a monstro, and the Dr I see from that looks waaay better
Amazing, Vance! Stunning texture!
Super dope! Enjoyed every bit of it .
OMG... The colors......just wowwww😍😍
Beautiful images, and a stunning palette of colours. Are you able/willing to share this look as a LUT? Thank you!
Great work!
Beast
Simply stunning! Bravo.
this is some beautiful footage
이것의 샘플 파일은 어디가면 받을 수 있습니까??
Cool. What halation did you use? Native resolve?
Yes. native Resolve
I had a peek at your YT videos (and also your website/IMDB page…wow!) and noticed you have pretty much done exclusively BMD camera tests on this platform. Does BMD come to you to film test footage? How would you rate this camera in relation to other cameras you’ve used in the past? Nice work, and thanks!
Hey, yeah I beta test for them, I have always thought them to be innovative, making affordABLE presser cameras that make great images. Yes, I have uses Alexa as my primary digital camera. I have to say this new Ursa Cine FF camera his a home run, I want to shoot a movie on this camera,. I certainly have had much to say to BM about building a professional cinema camera.. They have certainly done it with this camera.. Crazy good
Man this is awsome work 🔥🔥🔥 straight fire I have a question would you choose this camera over RED raptor X and how does it compare to an ARRI camera ?
Hey, so for e personally, I have never like RED camera.'s. I was forced into using the Raptor XL on a project and honestly not impressed. I love the Alexa for sure especially the Alexa 35 but this camera is getting close for sure. I mage wise there certainly isn't an $80K difference. There is so much about this camera to like!
@@vanceburberry710 thanks so much the response and from what I’m gathering ARRI Alexa is still on top but ursa cine is on it tail one last question if you don’t mind why don’t big studios acquire the Blackmagic systems to make features like the ARRI , SONY and REDS
@@mcneilbelle To be honest, Blackmagic have been on a journey developing cameras for the prosumer market. Cameras with great image quality at lowe cost. The New Ursa Cine LF and also the upcoming Ursa 17K 65 Cameras have been developing for the pro market, Now I believe these will be used by many mor on the proeffrsnal level. Certainly this camera fulfills what I have been missing g in earlier models. These camera confirm to industry standards which is huge. Cannot wait to shoot a film on these.
@@vanceburberry710 this just encouraged me to take a change on this camera thanks
@@vanceburberry710 the Ursa mini 12k Olpf is used daily across the industry mostly for vfx plates, and virtual volumes, which currently most sort after time saving workflow especially for tv. the only reason why it isn't used as the main camera is the DR and Dual Native absence (Venice). in regular broadcast tv, smaller tv stations have all adopted BMD broadcast cameras, mainly for the archival workflow and solid DNXHD proxies which work with Avid.
Superb! Very, very cool.
Wow very impressive image quality and outstanding camera work superb job bro 🙏 question for you blackmagic doesn’t make it clear How we get the footage off the camera and on to our computers do you mind telling us
Verry simple, insert whatever media card you used in camera into a card specific to type of card. Normally I would connect and external drive top my computer due to size of files, then connect media card via card reader. select all files and drag and drop onto external drive or into folder you have created on you computer. Now you can bring into DaVinci resolve for edit and color. If this is professional use then it's a good idea to transfer files via a program called Shotput. This will check the integrity of files as you are bringing them in..
Outstanding
stunning
Finally some good footage.
Gorgeous.
Bravo to the cinematographer!
How heavy was it handheld? Using an easy rig I assume?
Yeas. Easy rig. Not too heavy though. I was shooting with Cooke Panchro Classic FF
@ awesome sauce mate, I shoot a lot of handheld so this is some great info! Cheers lord!!
Amazing
Blackmagic is slowly changing the game
Agreed, they are really such an innovative company. I love this camera, and the 65mm to follow.
This is awesome. Quick question: Did you operate the camera on your own? Was it difficult to pull your own focus?
Hey so I operated camera but had a focus puller. With FF lenses it can be tough. As this is a serious cinema camera chances are you would have a focus puller. That being said with the right system you could pull pretty well.
@@vanceburberry710 That's my biggest problem... I need to be able to operate solo. So I'm on a7iv and sony lenses to help me with the focus.
My dream is to be able to go with Blackmagic and Anamorphic lenses...
@@omidpakbin OK so take a look at the DIJ LIDAR system. can works as completely auto focus system www.dji.com/focus-pro?site=brandsite&from=landing_page#76033. Or you can use the Tilta Nucieus M system that will give you focus control on handheld grips.tilta.com/shop/nucleus-m-wireless-follow-focus/ This will work for you. Believe me this camera is mind blowing, I would shoot a movie with this, it's that good.
@@vanceburberry710 Awesome! And of course we all have to remember, this fantastic video that you uploaded is 90% YOU, 10% gear. Your work shines the most.
Looking forward to seeing more from you. And I will look into the DJI LIDAR + BMPCC 6K full-frame opengate as it's way more affordable for me compared to Cine 12K. Pyxis is on my mind too - waiting for the reviews to come out.
@@omidpakbin Thanks for your kind words. FYI I have a test of that camera on my RUclips page if you haven't seen it. Pretty fabulous
great stuff! for the scene with the close up of the purple skateboard wheel, what lens were you using? Thank you!
Hey, thank you! The wheels was shot with the LAOWA Probe 2
@@vanceburberry710 thank you for youre reply - youre a huge inspiration!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The cinematography is great. Everything looks very good. But, for 12K, I was expecting sharper, more detailed images. Maybe, this was intentional, but in thet case, I would like to see this camera showing its true potential.
Hey so this is an h265 with RUclips compression. The pro res master looks a lot better. That being said for me it’s about over sampling and have a great image not about sharpness. I’m not a fan of overly sharp. But that’s just my preference. If you want sharp this camera will certainly deliver. The hi res of the on a HDR monitor is beautiful
It’s not a Bayer sensor, a larger array of photosites are used to derive color per pixel, so the ballpark resolving power per pixel density is not on the same scale here. I would assume the actual resolving power is closer to 4k. But the benefit of this sensor is channel uniformity, which is likely also the case for resolution. Alexa for example has very poor resolving power for the blue channel, and about the same for the green and red.
wow beauty
Not to be so harsh but used the 12k camera with anamorphic lenses, filters and post processing which basically softened the image overall. This hardly shows off the 12k potential since it also ends up downsampled in the end anyways.xD I can't tell the difference between this and a downsampled 4k-8k camera.
Yeah, this is not the place to see its full potential, but it's not about the pixels for me as much as the quality of image. This has been color graded no softening. The images compare in my opinion to the top 4k-8k cameras at a fraction of the cost.
You're never going to see the "12k potential". Outside of reframing, 8k is far beyond what anyone can see in terms of quality improvement. Most people don't sit close enough to displays to see the full benefit of 4k. Even if there were 12k displays, your eyes are the weakest link in that equation.
@oscarstegland Blackmagic is coming out with a 17k. Aside from rreframing. Why do you think they acrually go that far to create a sensor that size?
@@DragoTJ Because 65MM and higher resolution is the future, The 65mm camera will be ideal for capture for virtual productions. and as good as this sensor is, you will have a 65mm camera for 30K . Some serious players are going to buy these cameras. Large high resolution images are the future.
@@DragoTJ Why they go for that resolution, I have no idea... Imax don't project at higher than dual 4k which gives something similar to 6k.
But why they go for that sensor size is something else entirely. 65mm is an almost-mythical format that only a reserve few have gotten to use. If Arri opened that format up for a lot more people, BMD are trying to democratize it. The thing they gave going for them is the fact that you can shoot at lower resolutions without cropping the sensor. So the max resolution doesn't really matter too much. If you were forced to shoot at 12k or 17k, it would make both of these cameras a lot less useful.
would love to know what you did for grading. Was there grain added? where luts used or not?
No Let's used, Graded directly from Braw, As I was working I was not in session,, I just gave notes. I will ask and get back to you on grain,
@@vanceburberry710 Oh that would be great! Thanks!
@@vanceburberry710 Great image - does look like grain was added.
Molto bello
awesome😄
Great, but the "noise" in this beautiful colors confuse the 12K of definition! Looks like a vintage film.
I love the film look which is intentional , this is also an h265 so compressed. The pro-res master looks amazing but kinda wasted on RUclips. Go to this page and you can download a couple of Braw clips so see clean 12kwww.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursacine/gallery
I love this visual too! ❤ @@vanceburberry710
@@vanceburberry710thanks, I will check! ❤
Bravo!
This is so good. Congrats!!
How did you achieve such a great colour?
Thanks, so 2 parts to this, this new RGBW sensor is incredibly good with excellent color science, then of course Blackmagic Braw. Then you an excellent grade by the colorist.
Wooowwwww
would love to know the colorist on this project
Hook from Blackmagic design in Australia, he developed the color science for this camera. His was kind enough grade for me.
I don't get people who write 'test' and then put a supersized grade as subtle as a serving of chillies on a plate of truffles, plus all other kinds of image corrupting stuff like grads, vignettes etc. You may as well have shot it on a mirrorless then. Looks fantastic and nicely shot, don't get me wrong... but, a camera test??
I do understand your point but for me I want to know that I can get the look I want which is this, I have never likes the standard neutral test approach but thats just me. Also if you want to download some Braw clips to see ungraded footage www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursacine/gallery I certainly appreciate your comments and as I said I do understand your point of view.
How is the readout speed of the sensor? Is it a global shutter?
Hey so, no not global shutter but readout is very fast, not seeing any issues.
Looks more like a regular 4K rather 12K footage.
You're right, this is RUclips, it's 4K, with 12k capture. and a h265 at that.
kinda surprised at the heavy heavy vignetting, especially on a bright day, kinda odd, don't really understand that move
Francis is calling - should I put him on hold for you?
grade is wicked
Giving the Alexa a run for its money. Bravo!
Yeah. I agree. I love Alexa 35 but this camera is damn close. And look at price difference.
@@matthewphillips5483 I I I love the Alexa but it’s not 60k better than this camera. This camera is going to shake things up big time. Especially the 65 mm version.
@@matthewphillips5483 Thats a pretty rude response. As I said the Alexa is an incredible camera, which I use constantly. But image wise there is not a 60K difference, It has nothing to do with being broke, not all film makers are wealthy like you apparently are. This is a very affordable camera that produces a great image. Maybe you work for ARRI? FYI you are looking at a compressed RUclips file so????
@@vanceburberry710 Do you think the 17k will offer FF and Super 35 crops that are as good as this 12k camera? I'm trying to decide if I should wait since the 12k is available now. The 65mm format wouldn't be needed for all project but I also don't want a bunch of bodies sitting around.
bro filmed this with a potato or sum
Cine, not 'point-and-shoot.'
Too dark
Creative choice plus the RUclips compression doesn't help. Pro res 422HQ Master looks great though I much prefer contrast and a little on the darker side. Actually for me thats a compliment.