Kenobi ep 6 double length version with cut scenes, de-aging, cut music, and double length kenobi vader fight disney+ release early 2023, all stuff Kathleen Kennedy initially removed…
Yup think of them as individuals but in the same body. Anakin lost control for over 20 years until he saw the light again to take back control of himself.
No matter how much time passes or what writing they’re given, good or bad, Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen will always have that special kind of chemistry that makes me emotional when they come together.
They had chemistry in The Clone Wars show. In the prequel trilogy alone with no supporting materials, their relationship is just servicable at best and at worst it was obi wan constantly trying to console a whiny adult
When he says "I am not your failure Obi wan" the light on his face his blue. It's like Anakin is accepting Obi Wan's apology and telling him that it's not his fault. And then it becomes red again when Vader returns. Brilliant creative choice there.
Also notice how different his face looks in those lights? When the blue is there, he has a more human look and less scarring, when red, he looks so much more monstrous. I don’t know if it’s just a lighting effect or if they used make up or cgi to change the face to reflect the personality half’s but it’s good.
the important part is to note that they are not two different people. vader and anakin are well and truly the same man which is what obi wan realizes properly now. you can say vader "returns" but he was always there. what i like about the show is that it dispels the notion that there are two personas in anakin's mind, and that somehow poor little anakin is locked away in vader's helmet somewhere.
Hrm! Hadn't thought of him like that before, nice take. Very Macbeth: "I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, returning were as tedious as go o’er"
His face poking through the broken part of his mask, the tear, the scream in the end…all metaphors for the conflict within him. And to finally hear the apology that he needed after so long…it’s heart wrenching
Vader saying "I am not your failure" always tears me up. He's basically saying: "Don't blame yourself, Obi-wan." He tries to release Obi-wan from the guilt. Because Vader exactly knows he can blame noone but himself for all this. And he hates himself for the rest of his life. When Luke tries to turn him back, Vader truly wanted go back the light, but he felt he didn't deserve redemption.
And all along, Luke was right. That's the difference between Obi-Wan and Luke. Obi-Wan took the out Vader gave him and Luke refused despite Vader being personally responsible for killing close friends of his and indirectly his extended family. Luke is the hero Obi-Wan felt he didn't deserve to be.
@@UltimaKeyMasterthat’s exactly why The Last Jedi does not work, and it’s not that he failed, it’s the way he went about it that just is not Luke’s character
Tbh its a lot more sinister and hateful than that..Vader isn't doing any favors for Obi at this point trying to release him of guilt lol When Lukes dealing with him we have a much differnt version of Vader then here. Its not just that he hates himself. He genuinely doesnt want to give Obi any kind of sense of connection/entitlement to him. And he even goes on to say he himself killed Anakin to dawn Vader so in his eyes hes ascended, not failed.
Not as many people talk about it as much as they need to, but James Earl Jones’s performance was stellar. I’m so glad that he was able to give one last memorable performance as Darth Vader. He’s such a legend. ❤
Not just that. When they blended JEJ and Hayden's voices together... that took it to an entirely different level. They didn't do that in Rebels. We didn't know what was missing in that moment, but if you play both moments back to back, it's just night and day.
I love the double meaning of this line. It could be interpreted as Vader being arrogant and not wanting to be known as just Obi Wan's failure BUT it can also be interpreted as Anakin relieving Obi Wan of the guilt he feels about failing him.
He wasn't consoling him. It was the weakness in him attempting to assert control over something he lost: himself. He is so lost that everything he does is an attempt to control everyone and every situation. Even when he calls him master earlier in the fight it was after burying Obi Wan in the rocks. He was mocking Obi Wan, believing himself to be superior, but he is not.
I feel like that was the last final bit of empathy from Anakin to Obi Wan, after seeing obi wan tearfully apologize to everyone, it was one final monument to their incredibly deep friendship, I've heard other explanations, but I still want to believe that Anakin was intentionally releasing Obi-Wan from his guilt and regret.
When he was speaking to Obi Wan he was speaking as Vader, not Anakin. He even tells Obi Wan that he (Vader) killed Anakin and smiles when he says it. There is no empathy or compassion in the dark side. Think about it. Why would Vader want to ease Obi Wan's emotional suffering when he's trying to kill him? All Vader feels for Obi Wan is hatred. @@jamesmay3446
He didn't respond to Obi Wan as Anakin, he was speaking as Vader. He even says as such when he tells Obi Wan that he (Vader) killed Anakin, not Obi Wan. There is no trace of Anakin in this scene, unlike when he's near death and saves Luke from Palpatine. @@jamesmay3446
No, when Vader said "I am not your failure, Obi-Wan", he had a clear look of disgust in his eyes. He resented Obi-Wan's pity. He wasn't consoling his friend, he was basically saying "I'm not your failure, I succeeded Anakin Skywalker. I am something better." He is reflecting what he said a few episodes back, "I am what you made me."
I love how once Vader's suit is broken he almost immediately goes from a cold intimidating villain to a sympathetic broken man who's barely alive. Hit's harder knowing he's only in his early 30s at this point.
That makes me remember something: The switches controlling Vader's suit are located OUTSIDE on his chest. A* on design choice, Palps. Edit: I read all the replies, and I have no doubt that Palpatine designed the suit specifically to hinder Vader, in case of possible rebellion. I'm just pointing out that he made it so blatantly obvious, placing them fully exposed to, oh I don't know, blaster fire or lightsabers.
It reminds me of Bane in Dark Knight Rises when Batman breaks his mask in the last fight, which is funny cause Nolan’s version of Bane was inspired by Darth to begin with. Funny, rhymes like poetry.
@@darkspeinwarrior It was intentional. Palpatine FEARED Vader. That's why the control panel was on the outside of the suit. It's also why the suit was intentionally made weak to Force Lightning. The suit was designed so that Palp could dispose of Vader if he needed to, and in such a way that Anakin knew that fact, so he wouldn't turn against his Master and try to do what every Sith apprentice since the formation of the Rule of Two has done in the end. Succeed him.
The part of Anakin still alive saying "I am not your failure, Obi-Wan.", then Darth Vader coming in with the "You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did." just hits so hard. He really just saw his best friend completely die
Also the lighting shift, up till that point Vader's face was lit blue from Obi-Wan's saber, but when he says he killed Anakin it went red from his own saber. It's the little details like that that makes this scene
They needed it. One of the biggest failings of Revenge of the Sith was that it left inconsistencies, such as Ben calling him Anakin on Mustafar and then Vader on the Death Star.
It was a masterclass in acting by Hayden, you see the last of Anakin Skywalker (the literal embodiment of the humanity of Vader) get snuffed out and the psychopathic, taunting grin of pure evil, as Vader asserts himself completely. Just heartbreaking.
When you think about it logically. No matter what you do or decisions you make. You will always be you. He was always anakin and always will be. Regardless of when he was a sith and when he was a jedi. The name vader was just another way to be controlled by his sith master.
@@orionred2489 Yes but the point is that Vader truly wants to believe that he has destroyed Anakin. The fact that Anakin was never truly gone is a constant source of Vader’s pain and strength.
obi-wan just relentlessly bashing his chest with the hilt of his light saber was so raw like in that moment saber styles went out the window and primal instinct to win no matter what was all that was left
1:26 those kind of hand gestures re-gripping adding so much detail with so little movement is only something Hayden cares enough to do and I love him for it
No. I think it was more deeper than that. He was trying to tell Obi-Wan that he Anakin- himself- was already gone before they fought on Mustafar. He was basically saying he was already down the dark path before. Remember Obi-Wan didn't know he killed the Tuskens that killed his mother.
Personally I took it as a Vader telling that to himself, to re-iterate to himself that HE killed Padame, HE betrayed the Jedi, HE destroyed the good in his life and created the hell he lives in. I took it as Vader accepting what he did as a way to fully accept the Dark Side and his living hell; otherwise, if it was Obi Wan who failed him them Vader's current living hell would be almost impossible to bear. I gather this from the comics.
@@DEAXTHGIVESNOPXACE only in the flashbacks around the attack of the clones period here it was someone else. I think he was in the suit from time to time but just mainly when Vader was walking around.
I think it's moreso Anakin not wanting to give Obi any sort of credit to the monster he's become. Like saying "Don't you pity me". He doesn't want to be looked down to. He wants to be acknowledged as an equal/enemy and not a failure.
@@captaindeadpool2655 I agree. A lot of people I think are misinterpreting that line. When Vader says "I am not your failure", he clearly is expressing a look of disgust in his eye, almost exactly saying what you have said: "Don't you pity me."
@AlextheHistorian it's open for interpretation really. I believe it has a few ways of looking at that statement and deciding what your comfortable with. I see your view but I also see others too. Love how they've left it open for us. I can go anyway really 😊
No they are not. These "emotions" are a testament to the character building skill of George Lucas. This "stuff" uses the old dialogue in exactly the same terms only to do fanservice. There was no character development in 8 hours of material that led up to that moment. And there was never an excitement about such an encounter given that the characters must survive to meet in the New Hope.
@@ValJedi calm down karen I get what you mean though we needed more of anakin training and his past and what he was doing as vader still it was a good show with the fight scenes!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate obi-wan? He suffered just as much as Anakin. Lost his master, his love, his brother and best friend, his republic, had to exile himself and yet he was NEVER tempted by the dark side
@@zaer-ezart at least he doesnt have to breathe with a damn mask his whole life, trapped in a suit thats holding his true potential, got brainwashed and gaslighted his whole life, only doing what other people wanted and never chose for himself.
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did." This line gives us a resolution to the (now)fact that Obi-Wan never lied to Luke about his father's death; stating: "He betrayed and murdered your father." Darth even took credit.
Obi-Wan always spoke in a turnabout way in Episode IV. But the thing about it, was that he was, in point of fact, never lying, but also, never answering. By doing both, he never told the truth, because from a certain point of view, he would be lying if he did tell the truth. The irony here as well, is that he also admitted that while Darth Vader had 'murdered' Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan made clear that Anakin never died either leading to Luke redeeming his father.
@@DarthVader-1701 Not a retcon, I don't think you know the meaning of the word. This directly plays into what Obi-Wan told Luke in Return of the Jedi. Vader despises Anakin, we know this. No changes are made here.
The single best lightsaber fight since Revenge of the Sith. Theres so much in it. The emotion, their usage of the force and showing how Vader is the more physically capable but Kenobi is at peace with himself, showing that he’s finally moved on.
Hearing Anakin/Vader struggle to breathe after obi wan cut his helmet is just heartbreaking. This whole scene is heartbreaking. So glad Ewan and Hayden came back and gave us this moment
Great scene. Obi Wan could have finished him but when the mask broke, he just saw his friend and Jedi Brother as a broken man. He really took pity on him.
Yeah I get the feels too, but he’s a terrible person. I don’t care about this whole “I killed anakin” thing. No you’re anakin and you killed the younglings.
A small detail but I love that Vader is using both hands while gripping his lightsaber throughout the fight when for most opponents he only uses one. It just shows how serious he took Obi-Wan.
It also shits on the dickriders saying Vader is the strongest character ever and is simply unbeatable. This proves that obi wan was always the more powerful man.
Such a powerful ending, brings tears to my eyes. Obi-Wan still hoping to get to his lost friend and then realizing he is truely gone, because he destroyed himself.
Hes still in there obi wan could've killed him bur im the end he finally sways him back to the light by rasing his children whom eventually do convert anikin back hence the force ghost ar the end of return
A sad scene be for Obi-Wan, he loved Anakin like a brother and then saw his teammates betray him and become Darth Vader. Congratulations to Hayden and Ewan on a fantastic performance. What a fight
I don't quite think that's the thought process behind that line. I understood it as Anakin saying he wasn't just "ObiWan's failed apprentice" he succeeded in his eyes despite what Obi-Wan thinks of him.
Same. Its how i saw his line to ahsoka "then you will die" It was both of them saying it, anakin is telling her to "run or vader will kill you" and vader was sayin "im gunna destroy you"
He truly loved him. You can see the pain in Obi Wan’s eyes. He spared him because he still clung on to some form of hope for Anakin, while at the same time knowing that there was nothing left of him. He realized that his love had to become grief. This is such a sad scene.
@@bancalolThat is true, but whatever that was left of him was so removed and corrupted that it wasn’t really him. There may have been remnants of who he once was but he would never be the same again. He was driven by hatred and evil up until almost the very end.
@@MrDanDude did you really watch tho?? He was still there, that's why he was able to bring balance to the force by eliminating Palpatine and saving his son Luke. That was his very end, nothing like what you just said.
@@Boss2164 No, he simply knew that the way of the jedi was past and he had a duty to anakins offspring. That doesn't mean kenobi gave into the dark side. Perhaps during his fight with maul, but he was younger, here however, no.
He learned from Qui-Gon, who wasn’t quite the greatest adherent to the rules that the Council had ever seen. A Padawan with Obi-Wan’s skill utilizing such aggression - such as Anakin - may gradually be in danger of falling to the Dark Side, but for Obi-Wan, this fight completes his training in a way.
The chemistry between Hayden and Ewan is still off the charts, even after all these years. I hope we get more of them on screen together. Clone Wars series, flashbacks, anything.
What an epic scene. I know all of the non original Star Wars catch hell in reviews, but there are some absolute goose bump giving gems like this out there.
obi wan beat anakin EVERY time they fought. 1. before vader 2. in this scene 3. on the death star (he chose to lose) The power of Obi Wan at peace is truly truly terrifying....
This scene was very entertaining and emotionaI.The the only problem I have with it is why did Obi-Wan allow Vader to live? If he could have beaten Vader this whole time, why did he choose to wait another 10 years to make a barely trained Luke to face him? He accepted that Anakin was gone so why allow that monster to continue to slaughter innocents when he could have ended it here. Obviously Vader has to live for canonical reasons but story wise it makes no sense.
@@46sn29 well, people try to apply plain logics to this decisions. Why would he? The same reason people not always do what is right, at least in the greater picture. Even though Anakin died, Obi-Wan still couldn't bring himself to kill Vader. My guess is that it would end in another PTSD. So while he realized that Anakin might be gone, he saw the man behind the mask. He couldn't do it looking him in the eye, the same way he couldn't do it in Episode III, even after Anakin slaughtered younglings. About Luke, well. Obi-Wan believed from what I remember that Luke might be the chosen one instead. So, in the end, his decisions might seem illogical, but they worked out in the end.
@@46sn29 in both situations they were atacking Obi-Wan at the moment of their deaths. And yes, Vader was pretty much done, his armor was starting to malfunctioning and it was only a matter of time until he couldn't fight and Obi Wan noticed
@@user-hk7hz9cn7v that’s not true man.. Mostly Vader was present, but if it was all of Vader’s rage and hatred then he would’ve continued to try and take out Kenobi. No talking. No conversation whatsoever. This was a guy begging for his friend back but also accepting that he has ruined that relationship all at once.
@@toididthat he couldn’t have taken out Obi-Wan at that point and he knows it. That’s why he didn’t chase after him, he knows that Obi-Wan doesn’t want to kill him, but is willing to and he doesn’t stand a chance in his injured state, not to mention he probably couldn’t breath with his damaged suit.
Of all the Star Wars scenes that emotionally took me out, this scene is it. Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship throughout the saga is heartbreaking because you are seeing a brotherhood collapsing. It's even more chilling that Vader/Anakin says that _he_ "killed Anakin Skywalker", thus destroying his own self worth, all while his Vader mask reveals his face through a broken crevice; a broken man who had a destiny lost. It's a truly tragic scene.
When Obi Wan apologizes and cries, that killed me. A hopeful little kid who later became a close friend and brother in arms turned into a vengeful heartless monster. This fight is excellent, a perfect balance between the fast fights of the prequels and the emotion of the OT.
Not only someone he knew since they were a child, but someone they considered their brother. In many ways watching him die would have been less painful.
i love how hayden INSISTED BEING IN THE SUIT. People use to call him a bad actor, but those people never acted a day in their life. Hayden researched from the clone wars animated series to keep up with anakin. Thats a damn good actor and artist in my opinion.
Don't have to be an actor to recognize a bad one. That's a daft way to look at giving an opinion on someone's craft. But yeah, this was legendary. We'll be able to enjoy it for the next few years for sure.
Sorry, how again is dressing in a suit, and watching previous material equal to being a good actor? I think he’s decent, but you will find most fans of all said material, incapable of “good acting”, regardless of suit or not.
@@twd949 Being able to project emotion and character through the suit, through the _helmet_ is what proves it. Karl Urban was praised for Dredd on this account, why shouldn't Hayden get his due? You're holding his past as a young and barely fledged actor with mediocre scripting against him. Lucas is amazing at many things, but writing tender romance simply ain't one of them.
Revenge of the sith" OBI WAN: "I will do what I must" ANAKIN " You will try Kenobi Series: OBI WAN "I will do what I must" DARTH VADER "Then you will die"
Return of the Jedi Vader: The Emperor will show you the true nature of the Force. He is your master now. Luke: Then my father is truly dead. Kenobi series Vader: I am not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did. The same way I will destroy you! Obi-Wan: Then my friend is truly dead.
They are literally copying Rebels. This show is just a copy paste festival from Disney trying to drain every penny from Star Wars they can with feminist racial justice crap. And you are eating it up.
In the same way Luke Skywalker came out in the Madelorian and star struck and teared up Gen X. It's this scene for millennial me. Watching the prequels as a child and now as an adult, seeing these two back together makes me emotional. It's a beautifully made scene. I don't care about the hate it gets, I will always love the Kenobi series.
Hayden was born to play Anakin, i can't -, his voice, his face, his expression, the emotions, he stayed so true to his character... Him and Ewan returning was a blessing
@@lousyacrobat I think he had good skills but bad dialogues, also he said that it's Lucas who directed him how to act, everything, his personality, so I wouldn't put the blame on Hayden (he was great in the III for example) but it's just my opinion ☺️
Obi Wan saying “goodbye darth” instead of “goodbye anakin” really hit home for obi wan you can tell his long fight to bring anakin back to the light was truly over
It’s also the exact thing he called Vader in a new hope. “You can’t win Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine” A really cool little bit of detail they’ve added in there!
As bad as the series was, the obiwan Darth Vader scenes were good. It made a good connection for the Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father line from a new hope.
I mean it would have made sense if he put him out of misery at that point. I know Jedi aren't supposed to kill in cold blood, but surely a utalitarian argument can be made in this case wherein the self defence and defence of others can be used. considering the chaos he wreaked across the galaxy and the countless others he killed after and the fact that he was certain this would be the case given his choice of words to Darth Vader this makes sense. Hell, he should have killed him at Mustafar out of sheer human compassion (never mind the Jedi code, anyone else with an ounce of humanity would have opted for a clean mercy kill over what at that point seemed like a wholly miserable way to die.). Really, I feel like this was just a convoluted way to get back to where they left things in episode 3.
Ewan is such a great actor, the look of horror, the pain and regret, the weight of his past action came crashing down on him in that moment he saw Anakins face and it was all spoken so well before he even said a word.
I don’t care what anybody tells me, Hayden Christiansen was the perfect cast to play Anakin/Darth Vader. He absolutely nailed it in this scene alone. His delivery along with the evil smile when he says, “You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker…I did” gives me chills. This whole scene was perfectly written and directed. Outstanding acting by Hayden and Ewan in this scene!
Brings more meaning to Obi-Wan's line, "Vader betrayed and murdered your father." And then, "Your father was seduced by the dark side of the force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed."
Hayden Christensen nailed it. His delivery of "I did" is the best line of the series imo. With only a quarter of his face showing and a hand full of lines he was able to help knock the scene out of the park.
he also did a really good job with the flashback scene when he was training. As Anakin, he was excited, energetic, and having fun. As Vader, he's completely different. Kind of hard to believe he's the same character.
I love the idea of Obi-Wan saying "I'm sorry Anakin, for everything", as if he understands why Anakin fell to the dark side and realises that he could have done things diffrently. Made me sooo teary-eyed.
he understands that while Anakin does hold alot of the responsibility for falling to the darkside he's not ENTIRELY to blame. Vader is literally the byproduct of the Clone wars and Darth Sidious but also THE JEDI THEMSELVES. he is the living proof that the Jedi way (of the old republic) DOES NOT WORK.
When Vader is against anyone else, he’s this powerful Sith Lord no one can beat. When he’s against Obi wan we see him as a young man still trying to prove himself. His fighting style against Obi wan shows that. Pure aggression, no thinking.
Obi-Wan literally the one opponent he could never truly defeat and when he did he either faced him when he was at his weakest or getting older but even in their final showdown (A New Hope) Obi-Wan still manages to best him cause Vader didn't feel the satisfaction of seeing his body and cause he simply disappeared out of nowhere after death
Bullshit, Vader fought as well as he could but at this point Obi Wan's powers as a Jedi Master were still higher than Vader's. Though for some reason in this bullshit series, Obi Wan conveniently forgot to be a master for all episodes except the last two. I hate this Disney nonsensical idea that a Jedi Master like Obi Wan or Luke Skywalker can conveniently forget to be Jedis and lose all their powers. It just doesn't make sense.
especially the choice of the word “remains” he’s not half of what he could’ve been had he not been destroyed by obi wan physically. he is only a cracked shell held together by the suit
God it fucks me up SO BAD to see both faces and hear both voices at once. I find it hard to see Vader as Anakin, like ever, but this series has really cemented the two together, and also separated them in a way that I never couldn’t have imagined.
I love the "goodbye, Darth" connecting this with how old obi-wan refers to him. After seeing Darth Vader renouncing his old identity of Anakin, Obi-Wan does not see him as his old friend anymore, rather, just some other, faceless Sith. Just some "Darth".
The fact that obi wan could have killed him twice is crazy. And no one will ever know how truly great obi wan was. The man who defeated Anakin and Vader.
I don't think Obi Wan wanted any recognition for his amazing feats. He just wanted Luke and Leia to be safe. And in his final moment he saw them seconds away from safety.
He defeated him not on skills or the use of the force ( disney sucks and it's all filler ) but since anakin was always a power house with the emotional strengh of a teenager he would always colapse in front of his best friend/ brother
"Then my friend is truly dead" "Then my father is truly dead" I like that they included this. It adds some extra context as to why this line seems to affect Vader in Return of the Jedi.
I love the way Hayden Christensen delivers the line "you didn't kill Anakin Skywalker...I did" with the slight change in tone and the very small smile at the end. I genuinely can't tell if that's Anakin or Vader talking. It's almost like both parts of him are saying it in different ways. Anakin's voice is in there saying it regretfully; Vader is there saying it proudly. Vader is bragging about an accomplishment while that remnant of Anakin is accepting what he did and absolving Obi-Wan. Just brilliant!
Exactly!!! This is most clear with Anakin's face when Obi-wan says he's sorry for all of it. Anakin looks like he was gonna cry for a moment before Darth Vader took over again. That heartbreak and pain buried beneath what he has become. It hit so perfectly for when deeply repressed feelings are resonated with. 7:31
There are many lines that can be portrayed as a split, when Anakin says "I am not your failure." He's saying it to tell Obi-Wan that he's not what made him a failure, Vader's telling him that the failure he created is dead. The writing of Vader is genius itself.
This scene was so perfectly executed. It should’ve been in Episode 3 somewhere as a flash forward, idc. But it ties the prequels and OT so well. In a way that they made rogue one a thing with a single line, this made this show worth it just for this sequence.
Yes,I agree...Both actors were off the scale,the tears in Ewan’s eyes were Very Real,and I would say actors ,or Really Good actors draw on a Real painful moment in their lives to get that effect,which is often used in method acting,for an actor to Recall mentally a Real incident in their lives,Not that Ewan is a method actor,but he is extremely skilled at what he does..
You can decipher it by the lighting of the lightsaber. When Obi-Wan sliced Darth Vader’s helmet, it was red and blue; indicating who Obi-Wan sees (Anakin) but it was Vader. When Obi-Wan began to apologize to Anakin (bc that’s who he sees), the lighting is more blue than red, signifying that the person responding to Obi-Wan was indeed Anakin. After that, the man in the suit is more red than blue, revealing who he became, who killed Anakin…Darth Vader. Then when Obi-Wan leaves, We see a moment where there was no red nor blue; this I think means that at that instance there was a moment that whatever was left of Anakin has faded, which finally transitions to engulfing red as Obi-WAN leaves him after being said that Anakin is truly dead and addresses him as Darth Vader. And thus he became fully Darth Vader. P.S this is my take from this scene, idk if it’s accurate 🤷♀️ or digging too much
I think the most heart wrenching thing for me is the line from Kenobi “I’m sorry Anakin, for all of it.” Because Obi Wan isn’t just apologizing for Mustafar, for Padme, and his suffering inside the suit. He’s apologizing for, as he says, EVERYTHING. Every little thing, every wrong done to Anakin by the republic, the council, and obi wan himself that lead up to this moment. Obi wan knows exactly what lead to Anakin’s fall to the dark side, he’s had plenty of time to think about it.. and he’s apologizing for it all, but Anakin is gone. Vader is what remains.
@@TomAS-wm5mn that's one of the things I like most about this and I feel like it reinforces the poignancy of Vaders redemption in Return of the Jedi. Vader knew, and freely acknowledged he and he alone bore the blame for the horrors he inflicted. He was not forced into it, he chose it. Out of desperation and fear perhaps, but none the less: He CHOSE it. His evil came from within, as did his eventual turning away from it when he chose to save his sons life at the cost of his own.
Such a shame to think Anakin could’ve turned the tides for good to finally win once and for all instead he basically single-handedly destroy most of the light the Jedi the temple scene is beyond sad.
@@ShadowFhoenix in a way in my own opinion anakin falling was a way to remove the complacency and purify the rot that was slowly creeping into the "light" side of the force, something that was VERY evident if someone like Sideous could hide in plain sight even though there were thousands of jedi and a whole council of the best of them, and it all being a somewhat deserved downfall that has been the pattern of every ripple and wave of the tides of the Force, this was echoed in the KOTOR era, then again in the TOR era, so it is in the High Republic, the agents of the light and dark side clash, the light side triumphs then starts to grow complacent whereas the dark side would stab when the light is most corpulent and corrupt, the agents of light get steamrolled, and the brightest of the light survives to emergently vanquish the remaining dark, as someone who prescribes to the idea that the "Force" is neither good nor evil, but a force that ultimately wants balance yet moves through chaos, and feeds on both sides of the spectrum.
Bruh, those last 2 minutes of dialogue was felt to the core. Say whatcha want about Hayden, but he delivered it. “Anakin is gone. I am what remains.” *chills*
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did." The look in his eyes, the light in the scene fading from blue to red, the look in his eyes saying it. This is easily in my top 5 Star Wars moments, and makes up for all the problems I had with the show.
I think Hayden already redeemed himself on Episode 3 , he really tackled the agony and pain from Anakin and lead to a amazing performance, and even just finale scene and the training flashback, he nailed it again
"Goodbye Darth", Obi wan knew that what Yoda said was true , he was hoping that there was still good in him when padme said that , but Yoda said 'The boy , you trained, gone he is....' , he felt those words piercing his heart at that moment "My friend is truly dead"
Then why didn’t he kill him? He is fine with letting him now live to cause suffering? By doing this…they have made kenobi personally responsible for all the deaths and suffering by vader. He had the perfect chance to kill vader and end his reign… They ruined kenobi.
@@talleywa5772 Well now, sentiments or not. He now has to live knowing every death and family thats torn is on him. He had the chance to stop it..and didnt. At least before, he had thought he actually killed vader, not knowing he let him live…this…this is awful.
Yeah I loved the parallel. Obi taught Luke well, even in the art of psyching people out with one liners. Kenobi banter is part of why he's my favorite character.
It's a very human moment. Obi-wan has been carrying his guilt about Anakin for a long time here. He feels he let his master down, he let his friend down, and he's doomed the galaxy. Because of something he knows to be a core part of himself (he can't kill his best friend Anakin) but knows, from a tactical, real-world, practical view, has to be done. And so, he has come to hate and regret the part of himself that he sees as most himself. I spent some time figuring out what Obi-wan is apologizing for, but then the line says "for everything."; Obi-wan is apologizing for his entire life, it feels like. For becoming a Jedi, and failing. For finding Anakin, and losing him. For being the reason why Anakin met Padme, for teaching Anakin how to use the Force, and on and on. The depth of regret is what we hear in McGregor's lines - the birth of Darth Vader broke two men. But then Darth Vader kind of takes it from him, by reminding him (as so often we need to be reminded), that it's not always all about us. Obi-wan was there, but Anakin's fall from grace was not Obi-wan's fault. Anakin made his own choices, killed himself, is doing his own thing. And though that doesn't make Obi-wan feel better, it does allow him to move on - which is why I think that in Episode IV, Ben Kenobi is so mattered of fact about how Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Because that has become a truth to him, and a truth he needed to understand to get through his own guilt and regret. It's the story Obiwan told himself, and I think it's true but better than true. It's also what Obi-wan needed to believe. I think this series does a great job; even though it doesn't tell us much new about the world, helps fill in what is going on in Obi-wan's head and that has such a great impact on the entire saga.
@@carlosadeleon EXACTLY !! in the end he saw a broken Anakin, not Cyborg Vader. After watching over his son, later rescuing his daughter thinking hes long dead, only to find hes a monster trapped inside that suit.
No windu played a very small part of it. Kenobi was by a part larger in his fall. Obi Wan failed Anakin but how they did their training. Anakin needed a teacher that wasn't so by the book like obi wan was. He needed someone who could and be strict when needed and wasn't always the father or big brother Obi Wans failure to Anakin is ironically in no way his own misdoing simply the wrong style of teacher for what Anakin needed. If Qui Gon had survived Anakin would not of Fallen. Had Dooku taught Anakin, and not let Qui Gons death sway him to the dark side, Anakin would not of Fallen.
Absolutely love how Hayden and Ewan haven't lost their fight choreography probably the best lightsaber combat I've seen in the Disney live action scene in a while.
In the case of storyboarding and storytelling, it holds up. But in execution, they both feel terribly out of practice XD. The're slow, their spins look clumsy and a lot of the decisions(Aka pummeling Vader with rocks only to have them do absolutely nothing) feels like they were done for empty spectacle. They both acted their asses off and did amazing on the story beats but the actual fight felt lackluster, especially compared to the OT and Sequel trilogy. Still leagues better then the new trilogy due to the emotional weight though.
@@ADmillionaire Hayden was never bad. Those films were impossible for anyone to act in, especially given the actors never had a clue what they were acting against.
Easily one of the most menacing Vader lines. “You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker, I did.” It definitely shows how consuming and powerful the dark side is.
@@TheGek03 Definitely in full agreement! I always felt that HC was more hindered by the dialog than his acting , which I'm not saying he's AL Pacino ( imagine him as Darth ...See im a bad guy , and I hunt Jedi Masters 😎..cause it keeps me on my toes..where I gotta be !! ) Seriously though I really loved this , I felt it was just as you said !
@@ivanelgharbi5861 think about how his face reflected both red and blue while he said those lines before going back to all red. The last bit of Anakin in him that Vader let out before totally suppressing it (until adult Luke forces it back out).
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@@nikolaijensen4059 He said it, he said the buzzword!!
If only they played a little bit of “duel of the fates.”
@sfsd sdfs don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product
Note to self, if you ever get caught up with a friend who murders younglings…walk away…just walk away.
Luke- “You told me Vader murdered my father”
Ben- “It’s literally what he said”
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Luke: “You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father!”
Obi-Wan: “It’s literally what he told me.”
He did tell him the truth…
Yup think of them as individuals but in the same body. Anakin lost control for over 20 years until he saw the light again to take back control of himself.
@@Rex200024 More like 20 years my friend.
LMAO I said what he said, why you mad
Yeah, Luke ain't 40 but like... 16?@@Giga419
No matter how much time passes or what writing they’re given, good or bad, Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen will always have that special kind of chemistry that makes me emotional when they come together.
Mc Gregor is Woke Scum actor
They had chemistry in The Clone Wars show. In the prequel trilogy alone with no supporting materials, their relationship is just servicable at best and at worst it was obi wan constantly trying to console a whiny adult
Walking away saying, "Goodbye, Darth." Beautiful!
Nice way to connect how he addressed him in A New Hope.
“Darth” is what old people who don’t know any better call you on Halloween. Super Lame. I don’t care about Star Wars anymore but Disney should have.
Old people know far better than you on MANY things.
@@gogousa6661It makes total sense. Since in A New Hope he calls him Darth
@@spudhead169🤓🤓
It's also a nice way of connecting the dialogue between Obi and Luke on Tatooine, about how Darth Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin.
When he says "I am not your failure Obi wan" the light on his face his blue. It's like Anakin is accepting Obi Wan's apology and telling him that it's not his fault. And then it becomes red again when Vader returns. Brilliant creative choice there.
Also notice how different his face looks in those lights? When the blue is there, he has a more human look and less scarring, when red, he looks so much more monstrous. I don’t know if it’s just a lighting effect or if they used make up or cgi to change the face to reflect the personality half’s but it’s good.
@Crispy N Crunchy always gotta be that one guy
Just like in Rebels with Ahsoka
the important part is to note that they are not two different people. vader and anakin are well and truly the same man which is what obi wan realizes properly now. you can say vader "returns" but he was always there. what i like about the show is that it dispels the notion that there are two personas in anakin's mind, and that somehow poor little anakin is locked away in vader's helmet somewhere.
@@mrtwig2102 except it was probably just Vader toying with Ahsoka because his eyes are still sith orange
Darth Vader is the epitome of “I made a mistake but I’m too far gone to turn around”…such a tragic character
Hrm! Hadn't thought of him like that before, nice take. Very Macbeth: "I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, returning were as tedious as go o’er"
@@stevewilldo3056 exactly! Also I love the Macbeth quote! It’s what I was thinking about when I wrote my comment but couldn’t remember it!
Darth Vader = Mr Sunk Cost Fallacy.
Most Jedi in Anakin's life considered him a mistake
"It is... too late... for me son..."
- Actual quote from Darth Vader from Return of the Jedi
His face poking through the broken part of his mask, the tear, the scream in the end…all metaphors for the conflict within him. And to finally hear the apology that he needed after so long…it’s heart wrenching
There is no conflict!
you didnt understand starwars as a whole then bud
@@rorywilson656
There was no apology. It was a boast!
Shouldnt his tear ducts have burned off?
@@rosestrohm7986that's sewat.
"Then my friend is truly dead."
"Then my father is truly dead."
Nice touch
"You didn't kill Anakin, i did"
"Darth Vader killed your father..."
Yeah.. pretty much shows why Obi said that to Luke.. because from his experience, it was true
@@sauwensvk7589 yup from a certain point of view
@@IkilledColMustard a certain point of view?
@@IkilledColMustard “a certain point of view??”
From my Point of View Darth Vader is My Father!
Kenobi took off part of the helmet from the left side, while Ahsoka took it from the right. And at the end, Luke took off the whole mask.
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OMG your right!
Nice catch dudee!
BROOOOOOOOOOO! YOU RIGHT!!
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Vader saying "I am not your failure" always tears me up.
He's basically saying: "Don't blame yourself, Obi-wan."
He tries to release Obi-wan from the guilt. Because Vader exactly knows he can blame noone but himself for all this. And he hates himself for the rest of his life.
When Luke tries to turn him back, Vader truly wanted go back the light, but he felt he didn't deserve redemption.
And all along, Luke was right. That's the difference between Obi-Wan and Luke. Obi-Wan took the out Vader gave him and Luke refused despite Vader being personally responsible for killing close friends of his and indirectly his extended family.
Luke is the hero Obi-Wan felt he didn't deserve to be.
@@UltimaKeyMasterthat’s exactly why The Last Jedi does not work, and it’s not that he failed, it’s the way he went about it that just is not Luke’s character
@@vegaro214 That's rather explicitly why I was only talking about Luke's actual character arc and not...
*That.*
And when Vader says that he killed Anakin, you'll notice that there is a sly smirk, barely visible through the broken helmet. A nice little touch.
Tbh its a lot more sinister and hateful than that..Vader isn't doing any favors for Obi at this point trying to release him of guilt lol When Lukes dealing with him we have a much differnt version of Vader then here. Its not just that he hates himself. He genuinely doesnt want to give Obi any kind of sense of connection/entitlement to him. And he even goes on to say he himself killed Anakin to dawn Vader so in his eyes hes ascended, not failed.
Not as many people talk about it as much as they need to, but James Earl Jones’s performance was stellar. I’m so glad that he was able to give one last memorable performance as Darth Vader. He’s such a legend. ❤
Not just that. When they blended JEJ and Hayden's voices together... that took it to an entirely different level. They didn't do that in Rebels. We didn't know what was missing in that moment, but if you play both moments back to back, it's just night and day.
@@rcslyman8929
I really liked that little touch. It really shows the duality of Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker.
"..I am not your failure, Obi-Wan.."
Anakin's last words to Obiwan
Actually it’s: “OBI-WAN!! OBI-WAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!”
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@@dmann5938nah that's Vader talking at that point. The real Anakin came back briefly to reassure Obi wan
No he meant "Vader is not your failure" meaning: "Vader is not here because of you but because of me, because I killed Anakin"
I love the double meaning of this line. It could be interpreted as Vader being arrogant and not wanting to be known as just Obi Wan's failure BUT it can also be interpreted as Anakin relieving Obi Wan of the guilt he feels about failing him.
"Anakin is gone, I am what remains" that hit me. Hayden's acting was perfect
Ye acted perfectly in e3
always been perfect !
Felt like an acknowledgment of what he lost and how, while he now thinks it wasn’t worth becoming him, Vader is all that’s left of him and for him
"I HATE YOU.." no it time to COMING OUT
It’s enough to make a grown man cry
The way they “mixed” anakins voice with the module….is absolute perfection….literal BEST scene in ANY of the movies, hands down💯💯
I appreciate the way Anakin consoled his friend in the conclusion, reassuring Obi-Wan that the situation was not his fault.
He wasn't consoling him. It was the weakness in him attempting to assert control over something he lost: himself. He is so lost that everything he does is an attempt to control everyone and every situation. Even when he calls him master earlier in the fight it was after burying Obi Wan in the rocks. He was mocking Obi Wan, believing himself to be superior, but he is not.
I feel like that was the last final bit of empathy from Anakin to Obi Wan, after seeing obi wan tearfully apologize to everyone, it was one final monument to their incredibly deep friendship, I've heard other explanations, but I still want to believe that Anakin was intentionally releasing Obi-Wan from his guilt and regret.
When he was speaking to Obi Wan he was speaking as Vader, not Anakin. He even tells Obi Wan that he (Vader) killed Anakin and smiles when he says it. There is no empathy or compassion in the dark side. Think about it. Why would Vader want to ease Obi Wan's emotional suffering when he's trying to kill him? All Vader feels for Obi Wan is hatred. @@jamesmay3446
He didn't respond to Obi Wan as Anakin, he was speaking as Vader. He even says as such when he tells Obi Wan that he (Vader) killed Anakin, not Obi Wan. There is no trace of Anakin in this scene, unlike when he's near death and saves Luke from Palpatine. @@jamesmay3446
No, when Vader said "I am not your failure, Obi-Wan", he had a clear look of disgust in his eyes. He resented Obi-Wan's pity. He wasn't consoling his friend, he was basically saying "I'm not your failure, I succeeded Anakin Skywalker. I am something better." He is reflecting what he said a few episodes back, "I am what you made me."
I love how once Vader's suit is broken he almost immediately goes from a cold intimidating villain to a sympathetic broken man who's barely alive. Hit's harder knowing he's only in his early 30s at this point.
That makes me remember something:
The switches controlling Vader's suit are located OUTSIDE on his chest. A* on design choice, Palps.
Edit: I read all the replies, and I have no doubt that Palpatine designed the suit specifically to hinder Vader, in case of possible rebellion. I'm just pointing out that he made it so blatantly obvious, placing them fully exposed to, oh I don't know, blaster fire or lightsabers.
He’s so young at this point in which would be considered his physical prime but he’s such a broken man :(
More likely, late thirties or early forties. After all that thing in CW I must said the time of it changed to 5 yrs.
It reminds me of Bane in Dark Knight Rises when Batman breaks his mask in the last fight, which is funny cause Nolan’s version of Bane was inspired by Darth to begin with. Funny, rhymes like poetry.
@@darkspeinwarrior It was intentional. Palpatine FEARED Vader. That's why the control panel was on the outside of the suit. It's also why the suit was intentionally made weak to Force Lightning. The suit was designed so that Palp could dispose of Vader if he needed to, and in such a way that Anakin knew that fact, so he wouldn't turn against his Master and try to do what every Sith apprentice since the formation of the Rule of Two has done in the end.
Succeed him.
The part of Anakin still alive saying "I am not your failure, Obi-Wan.", then Darth Vader coming in with the "You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did." just hits so hard. He really just saw his best friend completely die
He never completely died
Also the lighting shift, up till that point Vader's face was lit blue from Obi-Wan's saber, but when he says he killed Anakin it went red from his own saber. It's the little details like that that makes this scene
They needed it. One of the biggest failings of Revenge of the Sith was that it left inconsistencies, such as Ben calling him Anakin on Mustafar and then Vader on the Death Star.
After Anakin said what he said it practically justifies Obi Wan telling Luke that Darth Vader murdered his father.
It was a masterclass in acting by Hayden, you see the last of Anakin Skywalker (the literal embodiment of the humanity of Vader) get snuffed out and the psychopathic, taunting grin of pure evil, as Vader asserts himself completely. Just heartbreaking.
Just imagine Darth saying 'now I have the highground'
It takes the star wars veteran to truly appreciate how insane this lightsaber duel is
Better than Disney's sequel trilogy
I feel the same way that was a really good fight scene
5:04 ehhhh
Are you joking? They don’t even seem like they want to hurt each other
@@silloweetyes they do
To hear James Earl Jones' voice and Hayden Christiansen's voice merge together was so awesome.
That was brilliant! Especially his final haunting shout.
It was a dream come true for me
omg i know !!!!! that blew my 27 year old brain like i was watching some thing good for once
it was so powerful it made me tear up
you mean AI jones. He didn't actually do any talking. Disney used an AI
“Anakin is gone… I’m what remains” such a powerful line… encapsulates completely what Vader is, just a hollow shell of a previous life.
Oh yes!
Anakin is gone. I'm what *RrEeMmAiNnSs*
But we know it's not true. He redeems himself for Luke. Anakin was still in there!
@@orionred2489 Yes. Anakin actually was still there. :) That's the beauty of it.
When you think about it logically. No matter what you do or decisions you make. You will always be you. He was always anakin and always will be. Regardless of when he was a sith and when he was a jedi. The name vader was just another way to be controlled by his sith master.
@@orionred2489 Yes but the point is that Vader truly wants to believe that he has destroyed Anakin. The fact that Anakin was never truly gone is a constant source of Vader’s pain and strength.
obi-wan just relentlessly bashing his chest with the hilt of his light saber was so raw like in that moment saber styles went out the window and primal instinct to win no matter what was all that was left
1:26 those kind of hand gestures re-gripping adding so much detail with so little movement is only something Hayden cares enough to do and I love him for it
"You didn't kill Anakin I did"
I feel like that was Anakins last gift to Obi-Wan to relieve him of his guilt. That felt merciful to me from Vader
^this!! Well said!!
Or prideful
No. I think it was more deeper than that. He was trying to tell Obi-Wan that he Anakin- himself- was already gone before they fought on Mustafar. He was basically saying he was already down the dark path before. Remember Obi-Wan didn't know he killed the Tuskens that killed his mother.
Personally I took it as a Vader telling that to himself, to re-iterate to himself that HE killed Padame, HE betrayed the Jedi, HE destroyed the good in his life and created the hell he lives in. I took it as Vader accepting what he did as a way to fully accept the Dark Side and his living hell; otherwise, if it was Obi Wan who failed him them Vader's current living hell would be almost impossible to bear. I gather this from the comics.
Not a gift, in his twisted way he didn't want Obi-Wan feeling he beat him, and thus took credit for the death of Anakin himself.
Massive props to Ewan and Hayden for doing this scene.
They really put their hearts into these performances.
Massive paychecks, you mean.
You could really feel the emotions. Watching this last summer, my stomach was hurting, and heart was racing. I am so glad we got this series.
Was it actually Hayden doing the fight scenes?
@@DEAXTHGIVESNOPXACE only in the flashbacks around the attack of the clones period here it was someone else.
I think he was in the suit from time to time but just mainly when Vader was walking around.
@@DEAXTHGIVESNOPXACE Pretty sure it was him.
"I'm not your failiure Obi Wan" always gets me..this is trully Anakin get back and tells his formar friend "it's not your fault"
I think it's moreso Anakin not wanting to give Obi any sort of credit to the monster he's become. Like saying "Don't you pity me". He doesn't want to be looked down to. He wants to be acknowledged as an equal/enemy and not a failure.
@@captaindeadpool2655 I agree. A lot of people I think are misinterpreting that line. When Vader says "I am not your failure", he clearly is expressing a look of disgust in his eye, almost exactly saying what you have said: "Don't you pity me."
@AlextheHistorian it's open for interpretation really. I believe it has a few ways of looking at that statement and deciding what your comfortable with. I see your view but I also see others too. Love how they've left it open for us. I can go anyway really 😊
@@garygeoghegan3560 I read from another commentator that show writer had explained its meaning.
@@captaindeadpool2655 This
This fight is so powerful. The emotions involved are unreal. This is unreal good stuff.
No they are not. These "emotions" are a testament to the character building skill of George Lucas. This "stuff" uses the old dialogue in exactly the same terms only to do fanservice. There was no character development in 8 hours of material that led up to that moment. And there was never an excitement about such an encounter given that the characters must survive to meet in the New Hope.
@@ValJedi calm down karen I get what you mean though we needed more of anakin training and his past and what he was doing as vader still it was a good show with the fight scenes!
“I’m sorry, Anakin. For all of it.” Breaks my heart every time.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate obi-wan? He suffered just as much as Anakin. Lost his master, his love, his brother and best friend, his republic, had to exile himself and yet he was NEVER tempted by the dark side
Hilarious you have a cross as your profile picture when Star Wars all of it is based on Hinduism. You lose
@@deveryhenderson8335 what does that have to do with anything?
@@zaer-ezart at least he doesnt have to breathe with a damn mask his whole life, trapped in a suit thats holding his true potential, got brainwashed and gaslighted his whole life, only doing what other people wanted and never chose for himself.
@@gasolinelover2438 He brought that on himself. Kenobi even begged him to not do it but we all know how it ended
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did."
This line gives us a resolution to the (now)fact that Obi-Wan never lied to Luke about his father's death; stating: "He betrayed and murdered your father."
Darth even took credit.
It was a shameless retcon.
@@DarthVader-1701 not really. Obi-Wan even explained it in return of the Jedi.
Obi-Wan always spoke in a turnabout way in Episode IV. But the thing about it, was that he was, in point of fact, never lying, but also, never answering. By doing both, he never told the truth, because from a certain point of view, he would be lying if he did tell the truth.
The irony here as well, is that he also admitted that while Darth Vader had 'murdered' Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan made clear that Anakin never died either leading to Luke redeeming his father.
@@DarthVader-1701 Not a retcon, I don't think you know the meaning of the word. This directly plays into what Obi-Wan told Luke in Return of the Jedi. Vader despises Anakin, we know this. No changes are made here.
From a certain point of view
I come back here every couple of months to relive this masterpiece. 🤙🏻
The single best lightsaber fight since Revenge of the Sith.
Theres so much in it. The emotion, their usage of the force and showing how Vader is the more physically capable but Kenobi is at peace with himself, showing that he’s finally moved on.
Hearing Anakin/Vader struggle to breathe after obi wan cut his helmet is just heartbreaking. This whole scene is heartbreaking. So glad Ewan and Hayden came back and gave us this moment
Its breathtaking
Great scene. Obi Wan could have finished him but when the mask broke, he just saw his friend and Jedi Brother as a broken man. He really took pity on him.
Yes and still a lot of starwars whiners are not satisfied of the whole series.
@@alphonse5935 it’s always going to be like that, Star Wars fans are impossible to please
Yeah I get the feels too, but he’s a terrible person. I don’t care about this whole “I killed anakin” thing. No you’re anakin and you killed the younglings.
A small detail but I love that Vader is using both hands while gripping his lightsaber throughout the fight when for most opponents he only uses one. It just shows how serious he took Obi-Wan.
It also shits on the dickriders saying Vader is the strongest character ever and is simply unbeatable. This proves that obi wan was always the more powerful man.
Well I would too if the last time I fought him he cut off three of my limbs and left my body to burn.
Even better, he starts one-handed but goes two-handed at 1:23 when he realizes it won't be a cakewalk as the last time.
I love how he even flexes his fingers. He’s nervous.
@@Judge-1964 yep saw that: he was fully engaged
Such a powerful ending, brings tears to my eyes. Obi-Wan still hoping to get to his lost friend and then realizing he is truely gone, because he destroyed himself.
Hes still in there obi wan could've killed him bur im the end he finally sways him back to the light by rasing his children whom eventually do convert anikin back hence the force ghost ar the end of return
A sad scene be for Obi-Wan, he loved Anakin like a brother and then saw his teammates betray him and become Darth Vader. Congratulations to Hayden and Ewan on a fantastic performance. What a fight
I love how they included Kenobi calling him Darth like in episode 4
In that moment, he accepted Anakin Skywalker was dead, and only Darth Vader remained.
Yet in his pity, he couldn't kill him.
@@smc1942 A Jedi can't kill a beaten opponent, even a monster like Vader 😞
only a master of evil darth
@@zachariahh4471 only a master at getting caught
@@caleb_p_music very funny 😂
The "Im not your failure line" is perfect. You failed no one, it's not your fault, it's mine. Anakin trying to talk trough Darth Vader for a glimpse.
I don't quite think that's the thought process behind that line.
I understood it as Anakin saying he wasn't just "ObiWan's failed apprentice" he succeeded in his eyes despite what Obi-Wan thinks of him.
@@Johten I think it can be both.
Same. Its how i saw his line to ahsoka "then you will die"
It was both of them saying it, anakin is telling her to "run or vader will kill you" and vader was sayin "im gunna destroy you"
I think it's just Vader's narcissism. Explaining to Kenobi that what he is now is his doing and no one else's including Obi-Wan's failure with Anakin.
@@jonathonbartos5420 Kinda like how you hear both Vader and Anakin's voices in this scene
If anybody was wondering the name of the music in the background is called overcoming the past
Thank you. Sounds pretty neat actually.
@@Tylnorton it is I listen to it everyday it strikes home to me
He truly loved him. You can see the pain in Obi Wan’s eyes. He spared him because he still clung on to some form of hope for Anakin, while at the same time knowing that there was nothing left of him. He realized that his love had to become grief. This is such a sad scene.
But there was still something left of him.
@@bancalolThat is true, but whatever that was left of him was so removed and corrupted that it wasn’t really him. There may have been remnants of who he once was but he would never be the same again. He was driven by hatred and evil up until almost the very end.
@@MrDanDude did you really watch tho?? He was still there, that's why he was able to bring balance to the force by eliminating Palpatine and saving his son Luke. That was his very end, nothing like what you just said.
It was great to see Obi-Wan fighting with a level of aggression we haven’t seen since he fought Maul after Qui-Gon was killed.
Because he taped into the dark side
@@Boss2164 No, he simply knew that the way of the jedi was past and he had a duty to anakins offspring. That doesn't mean kenobi gave into the dark side. Perhaps during his fight with maul, but he was younger, here however, no.
@@Boss2164 he cant tap in the dark side, only like 3 jedi could do it including mace windu, excluding obi wan
@@Boss2164 at least google it before you post a really lazy "analysis"
He learned from Qui-Gon, who wasn’t quite the greatest adherent to the rules that the Council had ever seen. A Padawan with Obi-Wan’s skill utilizing such aggression - such as Anakin - may gradually be in danger of falling to the Dark Side, but for Obi-Wan, this fight completes his training in a way.
The chemistry between Hayden and Ewan is still off the charts, even after all these years. I hope we get more of them on screen together. Clone Wars series, flashbacks, anything.
haha what movies have you been watching?
@@billsmith109 Ummm... Episode 1-3? They've not been in any other movies together... Not sure what you're getting at.
We will in the Ahsoka show
@@jay692 just some douche making fun of you for loving the prequels just ignore him
@@jay692 he's saying your taste is shite I suppose
What an epic scene. I know all of the non original Star Wars catch hell in reviews, but there are some absolute goose bump giving gems like this out there.
obi wan beat anakin EVERY time they fought.
1. before vader
2. in this scene
3. on the death star (he chose to lose)
The power of Obi Wan at peace is truly truly terrifying....
One of the most emotional sad scene in this series, the acting and music is so on point.
“Anakin is gone. I’m what remains.”
This scene was very entertaining and emotionaI.The the only problem I have with it is why did Obi-Wan allow Vader to live? If he could have beaten Vader this whole time, why did he choose to wait another 10 years to make a barely trained Luke to face him? He accepted that Anakin was gone so why allow that monster to continue to slaughter innocents when he could have ended it here. Obviously Vader has to live for canonical reasons but story wise it makes no sense.
@@46sn29 well, people try to apply plain logics to this decisions. Why would he? The same reason people not always do what is right, at least in the greater picture. Even though Anakin died, Obi-Wan still couldn't bring himself to kill Vader. My guess is that it would end in another PTSD.
So while he realized that Anakin might be gone, he saw the man behind the mask. He couldn't do it looking him in the eye, the same way he couldn't do it in Episode III, even after Anakin slaughtered younglings.
About Luke, well. Obi-Wan believed from what I remember that Luke might be the chosen one instead. So, in the end, his decisions might seem illogical, but they worked out in the end.
@@46sn29 a true jedi doesnt kill a beaten opponent
@@assface954 Obi-Wan killed Grevious and killed Maul twice. It wasnt like Vader was helpless. He still had some fight in him.
@@46sn29 in both situations they were atacking Obi-Wan at the moment of their deaths. And yes, Vader was pretty much done, his armor was starting to malfunctioning and it was only a matter of time until he couldn't fight and Obi Wan noticed
I’d like to believe that the “Obi-Wan” yells at the end were a mixture of Vader’s rage and Anakin calling out for help. It’s honestly heartbreaking. 😢
It’s not true. Anakin was nowhere to be found in this scene. It was pure Vader and pure hatred
@@user-hk7hz9cn7v that’s not true man.. Mostly Vader was present, but if it was all of Vader’s rage and hatred then he would’ve continued to try and take out Kenobi. No talking. No conversation whatsoever. This was a guy begging for his friend back but also accepting that he has ruined that relationship all at once.
@@toididthat he couldn’t have taken out Obi-Wan at that point and he knows it. That’s why he didn’t chase after him, he knows that Obi-Wan doesn’t want to kill him, but is willing to and he doesn’t stand a chance in his injured state, not to mention he probably couldn’t breath with his damaged suit.
@@soapywater_co it helps to read… I clearly said “try and take out Kenobi” lol & that’s far from the original point I was making
@@toididthat he couldn’t take out Kenobi. Vader isn’t stupid. He would’ve died if he’d gone after Obi-Wan.
Of all the Star Wars scenes that emotionally took me out, this scene is it. Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship throughout the saga is heartbreaking because you are seeing a brotherhood collapsing. It's even more chilling that Vader/Anakin says that _he_ "killed Anakin Skywalker", thus destroying his own self worth, all while his Vader mask reveals his face through a broken crevice; a broken man who had a destiny lost. It's a truly tragic scene.
Why every time i see this two duels always brings tears to my eyes. Just cant seem to take it seeing this two fight 🥺
Because they consider themselves as friends not enemies.
When Obi Wan apologizes and cries, that killed me. A hopeful little kid who later became a close friend and brother in arms turned into a vengeful heartless monster. This fight is excellent, a perfect balance between the fast fights of the prequels and the emotion of the OT.
One of the worst episodes of the entire series. The franchise is going down the drain.
@@MarioRodriguez-gr8wc nah
@@jrock0block80 weak ending, weak writing, weak like episodes VII-IX.
How must be the moment when Anakin saves Luke and he saw that Anakin still lives...
@@MarioRodriguez-gr8wc The finale was actually solid, apart from Reva's "character" development, the worst Episode was 4.
Obi Wan has known Anakin since he was a child. Imagine the pain he must've felt seeing someone once so innocent become Darth Vader.
Not only someone he knew since they were a child, but someone they considered their brother. In many ways watching him die would have been less painful.
Reminds me of my little brother. From Building lego Star Wars sets to doing time in Florida state prison for double homicide. Thus is life.
@@DoseOfReality308 so sad. Thus life
@@DoseOfReality308damn! 😳
All the loss Obi Wan endured and he never once turned to the dark side, only moved further into the light
I love reading the comments of these kind of videos I find out new stuff and new perspectives 😮
Ain’t nothing like a fight between good and evil classic👌🏽
The part where James Earl Jones’s voice is overlayed and cuts in and out from Hayden Christensen’s voice is so cool.
I believe they used some AI to basically use Hayden's voice and mimick JEJ's voice. Still, pretty cool
It really is a nice touch.
Iconic
@@manicmaniac4999 or, you know, they had both actors
@@Rhewinnah it was said they used AI for James Earl Jones voice.
i love how hayden INSISTED BEING IN THE SUIT. People use to call him a bad actor, but those people
never acted a day in their life. Hayden researched from the clone wars animated series to keep up with anakin. Thats a damn good actor and artist in my opinion.
Don't have to be an actor to recognize a bad one. That's a daft way to look at giving an opinion on someone's craft. But yeah, this was legendary. We'll be able to enjoy it for the next few years for sure.
He had basically 0 good dialogue to work with in the movies and they still were amazing so those people are certainly wrong
Sorry, how again is dressing in a suit, and watching previous material equal to being a good actor? I think he’s decent, but you will find most fans of all said material, incapable of “good acting”, regardless of suit or not.
@@twd949 dedication is the point here i think.
@@twd949 Being able to project emotion and character through the suit, through the _helmet_ is what proves it. Karl Urban was praised for Dredd on this account, why shouldn't Hayden get his due? You're holding his past as a young and barely fledged actor with mediocre scripting against him. Lucas is amazing at many things, but writing tender romance simply ain't one of them.
Seeing Anakin's face literally made me break out into tears, that was so sad yet so awesome.
Revenge of the sith"
OBI WAN: "I will do what I must"
ANAKIN " You will try
Kenobi Series:
OBI WAN "I will do what I must"
DARTH VADER "Then you will die"
Return of the Jedi
Vader: The Emperor will show you the true nature of the Force. He is your master now.
Luke: Then my father is truly dead.
Kenobi series
Vader: I am not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did. The same way I will destroy you!
Obi-Wan: Then my friend is truly dead.
“I am what remains” you can hear the pity in his voice, truly a powerful line
I can hear the "I am what remains... me, and this damned suit!"
@@NYG5 “I’m a charred stump you asshole!” 😂
Hearing Obi-Wan say "Anakin" with little hope he had left of him being alive at 6:59 is just heartbreaking
reminded me when Ahsoka breaks Vader'mask the same way and see Anakin's face.
Heartbreaking is the word.
They are literally copying Rebels. This show is just a copy paste festival from Disney trying to drain every penny from Star Wars they can with feminist racial justice crap. And you are eating it up.
Obi wan could have cut him why didn't he do that, that opening where he plunge his lightsaber into Vader chest
@@DarkEater77 she also says "anakin" with little hope she had left
Not really it’s weak storytelling
This STILL looks great. 😊
In the same way Luke Skywalker came out in the Madelorian and star struck and teared up Gen X. It's this scene for millennial me. Watching the prequels as a child and now as an adult, seeing these two back together makes me emotional. It's a beautifully made scene. I don't care about the hate it gets, I will always love the Kenobi series.
Hayden was born to play Anakin, i can't -, his voice, his face, his expression, the emotions, he stayed so true to his character... Him and Ewan returning was a blessing
i dont think he was good in the prequels tho. hes good here.
@@lousyacrobat I think he had good skills but bad dialogues, also he said that it's Lucas who directed him how to act, everything, his personality, so I wouldn't put the blame on Hayden (he was great in the III for example) but it's just my opinion ☺️
@@wellsinner naw you’re spot on. With better dialogue he’ll absolutely flesh out Vader with ease.
@@lousyacrobat Not his fault, Lucas was a good story teller, but not good directing or writing scripts
@@lousyacrobat He perfectly played a character suffering from borderline personality disorder
Obi Wan saying “goodbye darth” instead of “goodbye anakin” really hit home for obi wan you can tell his long fight to bring anakin back to the light was truly over
It’s also the exact thing he called Vader in a new hope. “You can’t win Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine”
A really cool little bit of detail they’ve added in there!
As bad as the series was, the obiwan Darth Vader scenes were good. It made a good connection for the Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father line from a new hope.
I mean it would have made sense if he put him out of misery at that point. I know Jedi aren't supposed to kill in cold blood, but surely a utalitarian argument can be made in this case wherein the self defence and defence of others can be used. considering the chaos he wreaked across the galaxy and the countless others he killed after and the fact that he was certain this would be the case given his choice of words to Darth Vader this makes sense. Hell, he should have killed him at Mustafar out of sheer human compassion (never mind the Jedi code, anyone else with an ounce of humanity would have opted for a clean mercy kill over what at that point seemed like a wholly miserable way to die.).
Really, I feel like this was just a convoluted way to get back to where they left things in episode 3.
Facts man facts.
I don’t think he ever called him Vader
Maybe there is scenes were he referred to him as darth Vader to other people but to Vader. It was was darth .
again.
thanks ! very nice. :)
Ewan is such a great actor, the look of horror, the pain and regret, the weight of his past action came crashing down on him in that moment he saw Anakins face and it was all spoken so well before he even said a word.
I don’t care what anybody tells me, Hayden Christiansen was the perfect cast to play Anakin/Darth Vader. He absolutely nailed it in this scene alone. His delivery along with the evil smile when he says, “You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker…I did” gives me chills. This whole scene was perfectly written and directed. Outstanding acting by Hayden and Ewan in this scene!
And the fact that it's already been a year 💀💀
It's not the actors, it's the script the kills it.
He's disgusting and irritating so I guess that's the perfect pick for the early days of the grestest villain ever. XD
@@Sojourner88 oh please. Shitty actors can ruin a script too
Brings more meaning to Obi-Wan's line, "Vader betrayed and murdered your father." And then, "Your father was seduced by the dark side of the force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed."
Hayden Christensen nailed it. His delivery of "I did" is the best line of the series imo. With only a quarter of his face showing and a hand full of lines he was able to help knock the scene out of the park.
Same with the line “the same way…I will destroy you” the way Hayden says it is with so much emotion and anger, beautifully done
@@SecretAgentNigward "dont make me KILL you x( "
he also did a really good job with the flashback scene when he was training. As Anakin, he was excited, energetic, and having fun. As Vader, he's completely different. Kind of hard to believe he's the same character.
Precisely. That's what Hayden can do with proper dialogue and direction.
Truly haunting!
It's was worth the wait to see this epic battle
I love the idea of Obi-Wan saying "I'm sorry Anakin, for everything", as if he understands why Anakin fell to the dark side and realises that he could have done things diffrently. Made me sooo teary-eyed.
Hindsight is always 20/20. But honestly, i think the only one who could have prevented Anakin from going down the dark side was Qui-Gon.
@@RMJ1984 Yeah when you say it, it makes sense. Obi-wan could have never predicted what would happen. Qui-gon would have.
@@karlhilmersson1609 The Jedi council did somewhat predict it in TPM by saying he was too old and was too attached to his Mum.
he understands that while Anakin does hold alot of the responsibility for falling to the darkside he's not ENTIRELY to blame. Vader is literally the byproduct of the Clone wars and Darth Sidious but also THE JEDI THEMSELVES. he is the living proof that the Jedi way (of the old republic) DOES NOT WORK.
@@michaelkean5969 yeah and he was created by darth sidious
never noticed it before, but obiwan using anakin's sugnature against him is beautiful
Say whatever you want about this series but this duel is EPIC
When Vader is against anyone else, he’s this powerful Sith Lord no one can beat.
When he’s against Obi wan we see him as a young man still trying to prove himself. His fighting style against Obi wan shows that. Pure aggression, no thinking.
Obi-Wan literally the one opponent he could never truly defeat and when he did he either faced him when he was at his weakest or getting older but even in their final showdown (A New Hope) Obi-Wan still manages to best him cause Vader didn't feel the satisfaction of seeing his body and cause he simply disappeared out of nowhere after death
@@aldozanoletti8166 Obi Wan trolled him hard in the end, with his little disappearing act lol.
@@aldozanoletti8166 Keep In Mind After Kenobi Let Vader Win What After Was Even More Scared Of Kenobi As A Force Ghost 👻
Darth Vader's greatest weakness is Obi-wan.
Bullshit, Vader fought as well as he could but at this point Obi Wan's powers as a Jedi Master were still higher than Vader's.
Though for some reason in this bullshit series, Obi Wan conveniently forgot to be a master for all episodes except the last two.
I hate this Disney nonsensical idea that a Jedi Master like Obi Wan or Luke Skywalker can conveniently forget to be Jedis and lose all their powers.
It just doesn't make sense.
“Anakin is gone. I am what remains”. That is powerful line right there.
"I'm sorry....I'm sorry, Anakin 😪....for all of it."
especially the choice of the word “remains” he’s not half of what he could’ve been had he not been destroyed by obi wan physically. he is only a cracked shell held together by the suit
@@dereklopez9060 "I'm not your failure.. Obi Wan....... You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker.. I did"
Anakin is still there. Luke brings him back, and he kills the emperor as his last action
God it fucks me up SO BAD to see both faces and hear both voices at once. I find it hard to see Vader as Anakin, like ever, but this series has really cemented the two together, and also separated them in a way that I never couldn’t have imagined.
As someone who originally saw Star Wars in the 70's as a kid ...this is a full circle story that took 40 years.
Worth it too.✊
Nice.
I love the "goodbye, Darth" connecting this with how old obi-wan refers to him. After seeing Darth Vader renouncing his old identity of Anakin, Obi-Wan does not see him as his old friend anymore, rather, just some other, faceless Sith. Just some "Darth".
The fact that obi wan could have killed him twice is crazy. And no one will ever know how truly great obi wan was. The man who defeated Anakin and Vader.
I don't think Obi Wan wanted any recognition for his amazing feats. He just wanted Luke and Leia to be safe. And in his final moment he saw them seconds away from safety.
He defeated him not on skills or the use of the force ( disney sucks and it's all filler ) but since anakin was always a power house with the emotional strengh of a teenager he would always colapse in front of his best friend/ brother
No, Vader defeated Anakin.
@ToyaTodorokiDabi two faces of the same coin
Watch Ashoka ep.5
Already watched it@@ace9848
"Then my friend is truly dead"
"Then my father is truly dead"
I like that they included this. It adds some extra context as to why this line seems to affect Vader in Return of the Jedi.
although i would have loved if he said brother since he said "you were my brother" the last time they met.
Like Lucas would say: "It's like poetry, it rhymes"
@@MikeJ00017 yeah that probably would have been better, I agree!
Still one of the best things Ive ever watched!!!
“You did not kill Anakin Skywalker..I did” 💔
I love the way Hayden Christensen delivers the line "you didn't kill Anakin Skywalker...I did" with the slight change in tone and the very small smile at the end. I genuinely can't tell if that's Anakin or Vader talking. It's almost like both parts of him are saying it in different ways. Anakin's voice is in there saying it regretfully; Vader is there saying it proudly. Vader is bragging about an accomplishment while that remnant of Anakin is accepting what he did and absolving Obi-Wan. Just brilliant!
Couldn't of said it better.
And the kubrick stare, god it was worth it for this one scene
Exactly!!! This is most clear with Anakin's face when Obi-wan says he's sorry for all of it. Anakin looks like he was gonna cry for a moment before Darth Vader took over again. That heartbreak and pain buried beneath what he has become. It hit so perfectly for when deeply repressed feelings are resonated with. 7:31
There are many lines that can be portrayed as a split, when Anakin says "I am not your failure." He's saying it to tell Obi-Wan that he's not what made him a failure, Vader's telling him that the failure he created is dead. The writing of Vader is genius itself.
This scene was so perfectly executed. It should’ve been in Episode 3 somewhere as a flash forward, idc. But it ties the prequels and OT so well. In a way that they made rogue one a thing with a single line, this made this show worth it just for this sequence.
"Anakin is gone. I am what remains."
"I am not your failure, Obi Wan."
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did."
“The same way, I will destroy you!”
Made me cry bro
It was Anakin's choice to fall to the darkside. And Obi wan was just a witness.
You watched the same video too cool bro
Anakin made his choice and paid the price for his failure, losing all that he loved in his quest for power. Oppression is the Mask of Fear- Nemik
Such a wonderful episode is a redemption for the abysmal latest trilogy.
When Obi saw Leia and Luke in his visions, knowing he GOT SOME JOB TO DO, the way he lifted all those rocks, damn what a moment
Hearing Hayden’s Anakin voice breaking through the James Earl Jones Vader voice gives me chills. Such an amazing detail.
Same
Yes,I agree...Both actors were off the scale,the tears in Ewan’s eyes were Very Real,and I would say actors ,or Really Good actors draw on a Real painful moment in their lives to get that effect,which is often used in method acting,for an actor to Recall mentally a Real incident in their lives,Not that Ewan is a method actor,but he is extremely skilled at what he does..
It reminded me of a scene in Rebels where the same thing happened but with Ahsoka instead of Obi-Wan
For that rebels scene they actually almost did the same thing with the voice changes but didn't for some reason. So glad we finally got that
Aww I couldn't agree more
It was such an amazing touch to the sequence.. vader will always be my favourite no matter that
The last moment makes you question who's screaming for Obi-Wan. This is truly a heartbreaking scene, from the fight to the dialogues
You can decipher it by the lighting of the lightsaber.
When Obi-Wan sliced Darth Vader’s helmet, it was red and blue; indicating who Obi-Wan sees (Anakin) but it was Vader.
When Obi-Wan began to apologize to Anakin (bc that’s who he sees), the lighting is more blue than red, signifying that the person responding to Obi-Wan was indeed Anakin.
After that, the man in the suit is more red than blue, revealing who he became, who killed Anakin…Darth Vader.
Then when Obi-Wan leaves,
We see a moment where there was no red nor blue; this I think means that at that instance there was a moment that whatever was left of Anakin has faded, which finally transitions to engulfing red as Obi-WAN leaves him after being said that Anakin is truly dead and addresses him as Darth Vader. And thus he became fully Darth Vader.
P.S this is my take from this scene, idk if it’s accurate 🤷♀️ or digging too much
Are you stupid? He said he killed Anakin, Vader was screaming for Obi Wan you fool. 2+2?
Both work perfectly. Vader wants Obi-wan to come back so he can finish the job. Anakin wants Obi-wan to come back and end his torment.
I think it's Anakin...he wants Obi Wan to finish the job and free him from the prison of being Vader....and still Obi Wan's weakness remains
Yeah. Could be darth yelling for obi-wan to come back and fight or it could be Anakin yelling for Obi-wan to come back and save him
Great fight! Well done!
a truely masterpiece
I think the most heart wrenching thing for me is the line from Kenobi “I’m sorry Anakin, for all of it.” Because Obi Wan isn’t just apologizing for Mustafar, for Padme, and his suffering inside the suit. He’s apologizing for, as he says, EVERYTHING. Every little thing, every wrong done to Anakin by the republic, the council, and obi wan himself that lead up to this moment. Obi wan knows exactly what lead to Anakin’s fall to the dark side, he’s had plenty of time to think about it.. and he’s apologizing for it all, but Anakin is gone.
Vader is what remains.
yes, at least Vader took responsibility for his actions, telling him that it actually isn't his fault for Anakin turning to Vader, it's his own fault
@@TomAS-wm5mn that's one of the things I like most about this and I feel like it reinforces the poignancy of Vaders redemption in Return of the Jedi. Vader knew, and freely acknowledged he and he alone bore the blame for the horrors he inflicted. He was not forced into it, he chose it. Out of desperation and fear perhaps, but none the less: He CHOSE it. His evil came from within, as did his eventual turning away from it when he chose to save his sons life at the cost of his own.
Such a shame to think Anakin could’ve turned the tides for good to finally win once and for all instead he basically single-handedly destroy most of the light the Jedi the temple scene is beyond sad.
@@ShadowFhoenix in a way in my own opinion anakin falling was a way to remove the complacency and purify the rot that was slowly creeping into the "light" side of the force, something that was VERY evident if someone like Sideous could hide in plain sight even though there were thousands of jedi and a whole council of the best of them, and it all being a somewhat deserved downfall that has been the pattern of every ripple and wave of the tides of the Force, this was echoed in the KOTOR era, then again in the TOR era, so it is in the High Republic, the agents of the light and dark side clash, the light side triumphs then starts to grow complacent whereas the dark side would stab when the light is most corpulent and corrupt, the agents of light get steamrolled, and the brightest of the light survives to emergently vanquish the remaining dark,
as someone who prescribes to the idea that the "Force" is neither good nor evil, but a force that ultimately wants balance yet moves through chaos, and feeds on both sides of the spectrum.
Why exactly did he turn to the dark side?
Bruh, those last 2 minutes of dialogue was felt to the core. Say whatcha want about Hayden, but he delivered it. “Anakin is gone. I am what remains.” *chills*
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did." The look in his eyes, the light in the scene fading from blue to red, the look in his eyes saying it. This is easily in my top 5 Star Wars moments, and makes up for all the problems I had with the show.
Agreed--one of his best moments. Still, Ewan steals the show with his despair and heartbreak.
Hayden was always a fav actor and to this day he and Ewan are both still fav actors of mine. Always.
I think Hayden already redeemed himself on Episode 3 , he really tackled the agony and pain from Anakin and lead to a amazing performance, and even just finale scene and the training flashback, he nailed it again
@@jawnwane4959 I mean I loved the prequels when they came out. Hayden is a favorite actor of mine and still love the prequels and him to this day.
"Goodbye, Darth" I feel like i got hit by a wrecking ball
This scene was awesome. But also heart breaking. Obi Wan still loved Anakin like a brother. Even though they were fighting.
"Goodbye Darth", Obi wan knew that what Yoda said was true , he was hoping that there was still good in him when padme said that , but Yoda said 'The boy , you trained, gone he is....' , he felt those words piercing his heart at that moment "My friend is truly dead"
Then why didn’t he kill him? He is fine with letting him now live to cause suffering?
By doing this…they have made kenobi personally responsible for all the deaths and suffering by vader. He had the perfect chance to kill vader and end his reign…
They ruined kenobi.
In the next episode they should have Vader revive Darth Bane
@@joshlin8002 Just because he says it doesn't mean he believes it, let alone believe it enough to kill.
@@tanyacaberro2546 ... There's not going to be a next episode. This is it....for now....
@@talleywa5772 Well now, sentiments or not. He now has to live knowing every death and family thats torn is on him. He had the chance to stop it..and didnt.
At least before, he had thought he actually killed vader, not knowing he let him live…this…this is awful.
"Then I will Avenge his death"
"Then my Father is truly dead"
"Then my friend is truly dead"
All of these lines his Anakin right in the soul.
Yeah I loved the parallel. Obi taught Luke well, even in the art of psyching people out with one liners. Kenobi banter is part of why he's my favorite character.
@@soren5312The MASTER of trolling
i m a star wars fan. This is killing me!!! It is so well done......you can feel everything between Obi wan and Anakin !!!!
"I'm sorry....I'm sorry Anakin" Such a Kenobi thing to say and Ewan's delivery almost made me tear up
It's a very human moment. Obi-wan has been carrying his guilt about Anakin for a long time here. He feels he let his master down, he let his friend down, and he's doomed the galaxy. Because of something he knows to be a core part of himself (he can't kill his best friend Anakin) but knows, from a tactical, real-world, practical view, has to be done. And so, he has come to hate and regret the part of himself that he sees as most himself.
I spent some time figuring out what Obi-wan is apologizing for, but then the line says "for everything."; Obi-wan is apologizing for his entire life, it feels like. For becoming a Jedi, and failing. For finding Anakin, and losing him. For being the reason why Anakin met Padme, for teaching Anakin how to use the Force, and on and on. The depth of regret is what we hear in McGregor's lines - the birth of Darth Vader broke two men.
But then Darth Vader kind of takes it from him, by reminding him (as so often we need to be reminded), that it's not always all about us. Obi-wan was there, but Anakin's fall from grace was not Obi-wan's fault. Anakin made his own choices, killed himself, is doing his own thing. And though that doesn't make Obi-wan feel better, it does allow him to move on - which is why I think that in Episode IV, Ben Kenobi is so mattered of fact about how Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Because that has become a truth to him, and a truth he needed to understand to get through his own guilt and regret.
It's the story Obiwan told himself, and I think it's true but better than true. It's also what Obi-wan needed to believe. I think this series does a great job; even though it doesn't tell us much new about the world, helps fill in what is going on in Obi-wan's head and that has such a great impact on the entire saga.
@@carlosadeleon EXACTLY !! in the end he saw a broken Anakin, not Cyborg Vader. After watching over his son, later rescuing his daughter thinking hes long dead, only to find hes a monster trapped inside that suit.
agreed--its right there with the scene from episode 3 where he says he loved him and that he was his brother.
I didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker... Mace Windu did. “You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master.
No windu played a very small part of it. Kenobi was by a part larger in his fall. Obi Wan failed Anakin but how they did their training. Anakin needed a teacher that wasn't so by the book like obi wan was. He needed someone who could and be strict when needed and wasn't always the father or big brother
Obi Wans failure to Anakin is ironically in no way his own misdoing simply the wrong style of teacher for what Anakin needed. If Qui Gon had survived Anakin would not of Fallen. Had Dooku taught Anakin, and not let Qui Gons death sway him to the dark side, Anakin would not of Fallen.
Absolutely love how Hayden and Ewan haven't lost their fight choreography probably the best lightsaber combat I've seen in the Disney live action scene in a while.
Yea theyre both Masters of lightsaber combat
No one who came after had this level of training or experience with a lightsaber
They put their hearts into it unlike the Mary Sue
What?
In the case of storyboarding and storytelling, it holds up. But in execution, they both feel terribly out of practice XD. The're slow, their spins look clumsy and a lot of the decisions(Aka pummeling Vader with rocks only to have them do absolutely nothing) feels like they were done for empty spectacle. They both acted their asses off and did amazing on the story beats but the actual fight felt lackluster, especially compared to the OT and Sequel trilogy.
Still leagues better then the new trilogy due to the emotional weight though.
the part where obi wan says I'm sorry and anakin nods but his eyes are still angry is amazing. Dual personality trapped inside a mech suit.
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Vader- I see you've been playing Dark Souls! Your rolling is superb!
The sheer emotions in his “Obi Wan!” at the end… great acting
To me that was still Anakin screaming
sheesh and the editing was chilling
This will finally put this nonsense of Hayden cant act to bed
He knew he was beaten by him, just like before, and that nothing's changed
@@ADmillionaire Hayden was never bad. Those films were impossible for anyone to act in, especially given the actors never had a clue what they were acting against.
Easily one of the most menacing Vader lines. “You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker, I did.” It definitely shows how consuming and powerful the dark side is.
Love to see what Hayden could have done with the character with less "direction" and more freedom.
It’s an excellent callback to Obi-Wan’s conversation with Luke in Episode IV, too.
For a momen, only a moment, the guilt and regret in vader´s voice. Really good scene.
@@TheGek03 Definitely in full agreement! I always felt that HC was more hindered by the dialog than his acting , which I'm not saying he's AL Pacino ( imagine him as Darth ...See im a bad guy , and I hunt Jedi Masters 😎..cause it keeps me on my toes..where I gotta be !! ) Seriously though I really loved this , I felt it was just as you said !
@@ivanelgharbi5861 think about how his face reflected both red and blue while he said those lines before going back to all red. The last bit of Anakin in him that Vader let out before totally suppressing it (until adult Luke forces it back out).