I don't think people understand the situation here. Webber had a good lead in the race, so the team "turned down" his engine so he didn't risk damaging any parts on the car because teams only get a limited amount of engines and other parts they can use per year and can get penalised for changing components during a race weekend if they fail. This is why Vettel is quicker and why he should have listed to the team orders to stay back, it really wasn't fair on Webber for him to do that.
Juzh123 the fact is webber was on a new set and a slower tire compound and was easily keeping in front , he listened to the multi 21 message and slowed down to save the engine , as he had shown he was the faster person at that time in the race. hence the multi21 to say ok boys you've seen who is the fastest today , but now settle down and save the engines. Vettel being the kid he is decided not to listen and over took webber for the lead. thus proving to the world that vettel is a sore loser and won't obey his team.
Ahahhahahahh hypocrite * and so Webber got what he deserved? Right so all the years he had been treated second best getting shitty car after shitty car and yet some how still managed to give vettel some trouble is the one who deserved it. Haha wow, either you only just started watching F1 from 2011 forward or you are a daft idiot who thinks vettel is the best driver in the world, all because he has had the better car on the day. All I know is Webber wouldn't deliberately crash into his own team mate to secure a championship. And for sure as hell doesn't act like a cry baby when he doesn't get his way. He takes it on the chin and acts like a gentlemen. It's funny because no other F1 driver respects vettel. Haha
Webber a cry baby Ahahhahahahh, that is quite funny, and the fact you defend vettel is even funnier. Anyone with a working brain and can think for themselves would know vettel is the biggest sook in F1. The infamous stinky finger of his is a trademark. And you think that they had the exact same cars? Hahaha you must be high on something to think that. Why do you think everyone hates vettel? Because he is a cocky little shit who thinks he is the best, quite literally only Germans and daft fools like yourself follow pricks like him. You're about as ignorant as him actually.
If Vettel was in a secured 2nd position, why wouldn't they do the same thing for him? Why would they keep his engine running with full performance? I don't believe this.
Its racing, its pretty harsh people giving vettel hate. It wouldn't be very nice being told "you're not going to win today, although you are quick enough, i want you to finish 2nd" no driver is going to race to finish 2nd place. 2nd place and onward are losers, everyone wants to win, no matter what it takes. It was racing that's all it was
What about from Mark's perspective? He was instructed to turn his engine down and coast to the end because he was assured Vettel maintain 2nd position. He could've easily pumped out faster laps that would not allowed Sebastian to even get this close.
I get why he did it, he's going for a world championship and a win vs 2nd can mean enough or not enough points at the end of the season but that doesn't make him immune from criticism, if he had a crash with Webber and knocked them both out then he, Mark and Red Bull would have gotten NO points that race and put Massa and Rosberg on the podium he took a massive risk and it though it paid off for him it was still a stupid thing to do.
lol i used to believe the theory that webber was on "cruise mode" with his engine turned down when vettel made the move (a so called "traitor" move). after seeing this not anymore. the way vettel closed down on his gearbox i think mark right there and then knew vettel wasn't there to say "hello mark!". mark's very much aware of vettel's voracious appetite for winning, i think mark knew vettel was going to attack but at the back of his head he was still probably hoping vettel would heed the pre-arranged orders (multi 21, whoever is ahead after the last rounds of pit stops retain that position). nice wheel to wheel action, unfortunately tainted by controversy.
It was probably dumb of RB to even issue the orders so early in the year. This is one of Vettels greatest decisions though. It really let the fans know what a douchebag he was. He drives for records not for the fans. He is a great driver but no champion. Champions inspire the fans, this kid just whines when his car isn't above all the others. Just watch him this year bitch and complain, whine, and blame others. He's already blamed Rosberg for not getting pole in a rainstorm. Kids a whine bag that can drive and has had the best car. No controversy there, just facts.
It was pure racing as it was said before. As Ayrton Senna said to Jackie Stewart during interview in 1990 : if you are not going for a gap that exist, you are no longer a racing driver !!! Those guys do not want to finish 2nd or lower, they race to win. All losers still complaining....that's it.
Manu14Smoke He was racing against an opponent that had turn his car power down significantly though. Webber was told to preserve the tires he has just pitted to get. I get that team orders suck but when you win a race against someone with a broken foot it isn't much to be proud of.
RingoFreakingStarr still webber came out of the pits which also could be a fault from the crew.. what should vettel have done in that moment? brake for webber? I wouldn't do that as a 3 times world champion especially not after brazil 2012
***** But if Sebastian said he didn't hear the order it's not like everyone can say he's lying cause no one can hear what Seb hears that is what all the haters need to realise
Ok fair enough, but the 'Multi 21' message was repeated and then Horner said to him to leave a gap. That's 3 times. It's weird how he can hear everything else bar that isn't it? He also stated in the next press conference in China that if he had understood the message, he would've done the same thing and passed Mark. What does that tell you?
***** Then that tells me the World Champion wants to race and wants to win you can't blame him for that yeah okay he probably didn't go about it the right way but as he also said it's what he's paid to do he races to win not to loose
***** Ayrton Senna kind of had the same attitude he raced to win he also said "If there is a gap and you don't go for it you are no longer a racing driver" just like Seb he raced to win and did it his way
This is how F1 should, thx Vettel for giving us a great battle. All those people hating should stop watching sport all together. Vettel didn't come to F1 to hand out gift baskets he came to F1 to race and win championships. Webber was always a below par driver and in the Red Bull he showed it again. With the best car he even couldn't win races or finish second behind his teammate like Rubens did for years at Ferrari with Michael. Hope this year we will some titanic battles between Alonso and Kimi and Lewis and Nico. Webber was acting like a little b*tch over this he got schooled on track, just deal with it.
Nope, Webber was one of the best drivers out there, he was treated very badly by red bull for most of his time there, his car wasn't nearly as good as vettels
I can somewhat agree with that. But as you say it's early in season, and the team, like Mercedes behind them, wanted to get their cars to the end without any risk. Seb risked a lot when you see how close he was to Mark and the wall, even though it produced fun and exciting racing, it was stupid.
If you think that this overtaking was unfair because of Vettel being on the Option tyre and Webber on the Prime tyre. Then you obviously dont know much about F1 these days. It is more about saving your tyres and tyrestrategy, than it is about just going flat out for the full duration of the race, as they used to be able to do. But you just cant do that anymore, the tyres will wear off then. Vettel used the right strategy and he made a fantastic overtake on Webber, setting it up just right. Webber knew he was comming, and was just not fast enough to keep Vettel behind. And on another note, it was a bad call from the team, to try and keep Vettel behind Webber. Vettel obveously had the speed to catch him, so why would you want your number one driver, the tripple world champion, to settle for second place, when a race win was within his grasp? It was no more than 2 races ago, that Vettel won the Championship by only three points, so every single point counts, why should he say no to the seven points he gained from taking over Webber? I know there is a lot of Vettel haters, who cant say anything but "THE CAR IS BETTER, CHEATER" F1 has always been this way, and if u take a look at the overtake Vettel just made in the video, u'd know he isnt just any driver.
I was really angry to Vettel then. But Jesus, what an insane manovra on the pit straight!! Even though his teammate covered the inside, Seb went in there almost touching the wall. THAT IS CRAZY!! Like Barrichello on Schumacher a few years earlier
This is F1 people, for fuck sake! This is about racing, about who is faster and better, not about obeying team's orders. Vettel is the type of "hungry-for-victory" drivers, a hunter, just like Hamilton or Alonso. If he thinks that he is faster than Webber then he's going to pass him to get the first place. Simple as that. I repeat, it's RACING. Btw, this battle give us one of the best moments of 2013 season, one of the few exciting moments in this boring F1 era. (And 2014 season it's even worse).
***** I still don't get your point. If they had been in a dominant car, Hamilton would have got 2 WDCs, Button 1. Another teammate beaten, no surprise since he's beaten every single teammate he's been against. Years Hamilton beat his teammate: 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014. Years Hamilton didn't beat his teammate: 2011. Cool!
***** no only is that not an excuse, that's not the only reason button comprehensively beat hamilton. there were plenty of races in 2011 button trounced hamilton pacewise and especially racecraft wise. hamilton only had 1 more dnf and button lost ~25 points at silverstone and nurburgring through no fault of his own. a pitlane strategy error also cost button the win at monaco. what really stood out though was how much of a better racer button was that year. his lack of errors and general overtaking skills in particular were on another level to hamilton. pacewise when hamilton was on top he only had a slight edge, whereas when button was on top the gap to hamilton was embarrassing. button more than doubled hamilton's tally of podiums in 2011.
Webber nearly pushed him into the wall.. when Schumacher did that he got penalised and everyone criticized him. Love how some people even want to defend Webber, he should have been penalized for that move.
One of the best F1 action ever, too bad Vettel tried to make some excuse about this though, he should have just said clearly that he is a real racer that wouldn't settle for 2nd place.
Well done Seb ¡ everyone says you are not a legend because you always drive with clean air, so let´s attack my teamate he is not expecting it, he is not Kimi to put me against the wall...
the problem is that webber had been told to lower the power of his engine and you can clearly see how he struggles when he need traction after turns..that was unfair for sure by the team..fuck vettel
The deal is Webber slowed down before this scene allowing Vettel to catch up. If there would have not been team order to hold position, Webber would not have slowed down so I am not sure Vettel would have caught up to him.
some years ago at Hungaroring... Schumacher got a penalty for pushing Barrichello "close to" the wall... and Webber was allowed it leagally to do the same with Vettel? Strange in my opinion...^^ Even just for that risky bitch move from Webber, Vettel deserved the victory :)
IIBLizZII Glad I am not the only one who thought that. Webber was always a mediocre driver but for some reason had so many fanboys, even some idiots who thought he was better than vettel (ROFL PLS). Webber was quite often an overly aggressive driver, and he never got punished for it., maybe we let him off because most aussies are cunts so its expected. looool come at me boys.
SnowPlayz nope, Vettel is on options (Faster tire) Mark is on primes (Slower tire) Vettel was in Mix 3 (Rich = Faster) Mark was in Mix 1 (Lean = Slower) Mark was managing the race. Vettel ignored team orders and risked ruining both their races like he did in Turkey 2010
Gaming Now lol there is no such thing as mix 1,2 or 3. You've been playing way too much F1 2013. And Vettel IS the faster driver, ever since 2009, when the car was designed for Webber. I am no Vettel fan, but he's definately the better driver.
Facepalm. Vettel the better driver? Yes you mean in the team that is built for just him? Hes a cocky little shit that wouldnt do anything without Newey. Trust me. Nearly all drivers on the field would smash him in equal machinery.
Yes, but explain why Vettel beat Webber in a car that was designed around Webber in 2009? Ofcourse would Alonso and Hamilton wreck Vettel in equal machinery, but Webber is truly overrated. Even though the car wasn't made for him, he failed to score a single win when he had the chance too. And btw, if there's someone cocky it's Alonso. And also, one does not win 9 races in a row in the better car to be called a 'bad' driver. Webber couldn't do it. My facepalm goes to your overly biased and hatred filled comment, sir.
If you finish second you've lost, you've not won. Vettel when he's in the car wants to win everything just like every other driver, the worst place you can finish in Formula One is behind your team-mate....enough said
The moves was great, but honestly Webber was never going to hold him back. Softer tyres, a double DRS zone and a less turned down engine behind him. Also Vettel ignoring team orders means he isn't a good team player, just like we see him doing whatever he wants in 2014. Good driver, but not the best overall.
THE TRUTH is that since 2010 the world of Formula 1 has been distorted to make it more interesting. Ferrari , Williams, McLaren , teams which have been damaged after a revolution on the regulations . Quite simply the team Red Bull was clearly favored to be able to make it more competitive and then trying to be able to collect that interest on the formula which had waned . The interest of Formula 1 in the years 2008/2010 has touched the bottom , and by doing so they wanted to bring the Formula 1 back to important interests. Unfortunately, doing so has ruined a sport that today has an interest equal to moto GP if not less . I am an aeronautical engineer , and I will not go into intricate details , unfortunately the advantage of Red Bull on the big is remarkable, that advantage has delayed the development of the car. A standardized level the gap can not be bridged before 3/4 years , and it is what we have seen in recent years. I'm sorry for the fans of Red Bull, but it was a historical concept of F1 to do know .
pFor all the abuse Seb gets for this and the whole multi 21 saga, its got to be said that this is some of the best F1 racing in years. Balls out, no holds barred, right on the absolute limit. Its more like a dogfight than an F1 race. In these days of tyre management, fuel saving and driving to a delta, I can't believe Seb doesn't get credit for some of the rawest *racing* in years. For all those who say Seb is only world champion because of Neweys car, pause it at 3:26.
that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard dude. Last Year Vettel dominated. I took naps during the races. Vettel is a goober and can't inspire the fans to like him. He can win the championship with accolades and the best car but a true champion will inspire the fans.
Yeah, only when he whines and gets spoiled by his own team.. Like asking for his teammates car parts when he destroyed his own In motogp i never see marquez asking for pedrosa's bike parts when he struggles, instead he just asks for the older model that he liked better
team orders destroy real racing, new engines destroy sound, FIA disallowing engine in-season development destroy inter-team battles. fuck team orders, fuck the turbos, bring back the v8s, fuck the system. no wonder teams exit and fans left to watch other motorsport. isnt it embarrassing that the so-called "Pinnacle of Motorsport" has cars with lap times close to that of GP2 cars? U know what would make F1 turn out the best in the world? Same engine, same car. let the drivers tweak to their own liking. then you will get racing and you will see the best driver.
im dont follow racing a lot.....but once in a while i watch this and i feel that this whole concept of teammates and partners is just stupid. You race to win. thats that. you shouldnt have to slow down or to ask the team to have someone move out of the way.
cristiano henrique Vettel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ricciardo. The only reason why he beated Seb during 2014 season was because Ricciardo had a better car. Seb's car failed all over the season. Vettel is a 4-time world champion, Ricciardo has 3 victories. Enough said.
Webber is all about excuses, Vettel is all about winning. A shame there aren't many competitors like Vettel in F1 nowadays, with that stupid vacuum cleaner cars that they now use...
+Daniel Matos Team told Webber to turn his engine down to preserve the engine and said that Vettel wouldn't overtake.....Webber did this and Vettel ignored the team orders and turned his engine power up to overtake Webber....how is this an excuse?
+Thomas Gibson A race is a race, you are there to win or to end up in any other position. And it's not like this happened once, if Webber was that good, he had plenty off races during several years to show how he was the best, but he always came in second to Vettel no matter what. And if Webber was so naive that expected Vettel to gladly accept 2nd place, then that by itself shows his 2nd place mentality. And that's not a champion's mentality.
+Daniel Matos I get that, but like with any other race, each driver has a strategy and Webber's clearly trumped Vettel's....so in the interests of the team and preserving the cars, they told them to power down the cars and save wear and tear...It's a blatant stab in the back....Vettel even admitted it himself after the race
+Thomas Gibson you are correct! if you dont like team orders or if you do they are there and legal. They told seb to turn in down and he did not. Vettel came in at the end of webbers career. everyone seems to forget him in the jaguar days where he smashed all his team mates and out preformed the car majorly. He use to be the qualifying specialist. But like all great racers they tend to get slower as they get older and Webber is no different. But ifs and buts this is old news now...
SiamkaterLP dude...these kids are just aussi fanboys who know nothing about engines and cars...the fact that Ricciardo has won just 3 races in 70 starts tell you all about how average he's...and that guy is 25 already...!! All he can do is 3rd or 4th at his best when others are having a bad day.
lala mal yeah...fuck off !! When you look at great f1 racers who have won championships...look at their win rates..even when they were really young and not even the favorites..his is not anywhere near them...!! If you can't win races...you are not good enough to be champion, doesn't matter how many times you hit the podium .He had one good season...and kids like you think he's god. He's fucking average who wins when others are having a bad day. All he can be is next Nico Roseberg...who shares the podium most of the times but has never see what a championship trophy looks like.!!
lala mal Whatever... It wasn't big damage and besides Kvyat hasn't had any race experience in this car before this race and got hit and spun around by Hulkenberg and yet still was all over Ricciardo, so yes Kvyat beat Ricciardo, must be the new best driver in the world young Kvyat.....
I don't see why Webber is annoyed about this. Yeah the team told Seb to stay behind, but at the end of the day it's a race. They are both paid to race and the fans pay to come and watch the race.
Still doesn't give him the right to undermine the teams authority. There is a chain of command that needs to be respected. Basically see doesn't know his place. The team encourage this by when they pander to him
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"bottom line is: I was racing, I was faster, I passed him, I won" - Sebastian vettel
That's how f1 racing should be
I don't think people understand the situation here. Webber had a good lead in the race, so the team "turned down" his engine so he didn't risk damaging any parts on the car because teams only get a limited amount of engines and other parts they can use per year and can get penalised for changing components during a race weekend if they fail. This is why Vettel is quicker and why he should have listed to the team orders to stay back, it really wasn't fair on Webber for him to do that.
Juzh123 the fact is webber was on a new set and a slower tire compound and was easily keeping in front , he listened to the multi 21 message and slowed down to save the engine , as he had shown he was the faster person at that time in the race. hence the multi21 to say ok boys you've seen who is the fastest today , but now settle down and save the engines. Vettel being the kid he is decided not to listen and over took webber for the lead. thus proving to the world that vettel is a sore loser and won't obey his team.
Ahahhahahahh hypocrite * and so Webber got what he deserved? Right so all the years he had been treated second best getting shitty car after shitty car and yet some how still managed to give vettel some trouble is the one who deserved it. Haha wow, either you only just started watching F1 from 2011 forward or you are a daft idiot who thinks vettel is the best driver in the world, all because he has had the better car on the day. All I know is Webber wouldn't deliberately crash into his own team mate to secure a championship. And for sure as hell doesn't act like a cry baby when he doesn't get his way. He takes it on the chin and acts like a gentlemen. It's funny because no other F1 driver respects vettel. Haha
Webber a cry baby Ahahhahahahh, that is quite funny, and the fact you defend vettel is even funnier. Anyone with a working brain and can think for themselves would know vettel is the biggest sook in F1. The infamous stinky finger of his is a trademark. And you think that they had the exact same cars? Hahaha you must be high on something to think that. Why do you think everyone hates vettel? Because he is a cocky little shit who thinks he is the best, quite literally only Germans and daft
fools like yourself follow pricks like him. You're about as ignorant as him actually.
If Vettel was in a secured 2nd position, why wouldn't they do the same thing for him? Why would they keep his engine running with full performance? I don't believe this.
Always writing bullshit...
3:25 best overtake of 2013. Extreme!
thanks for pointing out which overtake u r talking about, otherwise it mightbe confusing
3:25 !!! Man balls of steel !!!
Its racing, its pretty harsh people giving vettel hate. It wouldn't be very nice being told "you're not going to win today, although you are quick enough, i want you to finish 2nd" no driver is going to race to finish 2nd place. 2nd place and onward are losers, everyone wants to win, no matter what it takes. It was racing that's all it was
What about from Mark's perspective? He was instructed to turn his engine down and coast to the end because he was assured Vettel maintain 2nd position. He could've easily pumped out faster laps that would not allowed Sebastian to even get this close.
Mark was told "you're not gonna win today, or ever" every day.
I get why he did it, he's going for a world championship and a win vs 2nd can mean enough or not enough points at the end of the season but that doesn't make him immune from criticism, if he had a crash with Webber and knocked them both out then he, Mark and Red Bull would have gotten NO points that race and put Massa and Rosberg on the podium he took a massive risk and it though it paid off for him it was still a stupid thing to do.
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I think it was the best battle of the season by far and it was entertaining as fuck, this is what I want to see.
lol i used to believe the theory that webber was on "cruise mode" with his engine turned down when vettel made the move (a so called "traitor" move). after seeing this not anymore. the way vettel closed down on his gearbox i think mark right there and then knew vettel wasn't there to say "hello mark!". mark's very much aware of vettel's voracious appetite for winning, i think mark knew vettel was going to attack but at the back of his head he was still probably hoping vettel would heed the pre-arranged orders (multi 21, whoever is ahead after the last rounds of pit stops retain that position). nice wheel to wheel action, unfortunately tainted by controversy.
It was probably dumb of RB to even issue the orders so early in the year. This is one of Vettels greatest decisions though. It really let the fans know what a douchebag he was. He drives for records not for the fans. He is a great driver but no champion. Champions inspire the fans, this kid just whines when his car isn't above all the others. Just watch him this year bitch and complain, whine, and blame others. He's already blamed Rosberg for not getting pole in a rainstorm. Kids a whine bag that can drive and has had the best car. No controversy there, just facts.
Juzh123
It's my opinion dude. Sorry the "facts" weren't there for you, well, there was one. Perhaps you can re-read it and figure it out.
VICTORY!
@@radjera1979 wonder what you think now. He may not have been liked by many back then, but 7 years after your comment, everyone is a Vettel fan
It was pure racing as it was said before. As Ayrton Senna said to Jackie Stewart during interview in 1990 : if you are not going for a gap that exist, you are no longer a racing driver !!! Those guys do not want to finish 2nd or lower, they race to win. All losers still complaining....that's it.
Or as Keke Rosberg put it "show me a good loser and i will show you a loser"....
Jason van der hulst so his son is a loser then? ;D
I don`t think Nico is a good loser, but HAS to act like one because corporate F1 demands that of him.
Manu14Smoke He was racing against an opponent that had turn his car power down significantly though. Webber was told to preserve the tires he has just pitted to get. I get that team orders suck but when you win a race against someone with a broken foot it isn't much to be proud of.
RingoFreakingStarr still webber came out of the pits which also could be a fault from the crew.. what should vettel have done in that moment? brake for webber? I wouldn't do that as a 3 times world champion especially not after brazil 2012
I don't see why Vettel should have let Webber win when he is clearly faster! Vettel was just racing Mark just as he would any other opponent!
Doesn't matter. The fact that Seb was told to hold position is all you need.
***** But if Sebastian said he didn't hear the order it's not like everyone can say he's lying cause no one can hear what Seb hears that is what all the haters need to realise
Ok fair enough, but the 'Multi 21' message was repeated and then Horner said to him to leave a gap. That's 3 times. It's weird how he can hear everything else bar that isn't it? He also stated in the next press conference in China that if he had understood the message, he would've done the same thing and passed Mark. What does that tell you?
***** Then that tells me the World Champion wants to race and wants to win you can't blame him for that yeah okay he probably didn't go about it the right way but as he also said it's what he's paid to do he races to win not to loose
***** Ayrton Senna kind of had the same attitude he raced to win he also said "If there is a gap and you don't go for it you are no longer a racing driver" just like Seb he raced to win and did it his way
Webber: "I will get a win and then I retire.."
Vettel: "I don't want to be just WDC, I wanna do my best season ever,"
This is how F1 should, thx Vettel for giving us a great battle. All those people hating should stop watching sport all together. Vettel didn't come to F1 to hand out gift baskets he came to F1 to race and win championships. Webber was always a below par driver and in the Red Bull he showed it again. With the best car he even couldn't win races or finish second behind his teammate like Rubens did for years at Ferrari with Michael. Hope this year we will some titanic battles between Alonso and Kimi and Lewis and Nico. Webber was acting like a little b*tch over this he got schooled on track, just deal with it.
Nope, Webber was one of the best drivers out there, he was treated very badly by red bull for most of his time there, his car wasn't nearly as good as vettels
Nothing wrong with this. Go Seb get back out front this year!
Nothing wrong with actual move, no. The fact that Seb did this however, is wrong.
So early in the season team orders are wrong IMO. The fact he acted surprised at missing the order after the race was silly.
I can somewhat agree with that. But as you say it's early in season, and the team, like Mercedes behind them, wanted to get their cars to the end without any risk. Seb risked a lot when you see how close he was to Mark and the wall, even though it produced fun and exciting racing, it was stupid.
yea back out front this year.. not lol
Yes, a dose of your own medicine tastes quite bitter .... good on Seb for putting it on him.
If you think that this overtaking was unfair because of Vettel being on the Option tyre and Webber on the Prime tyre. Then you obviously dont know much about F1 these days. It is more about saving your tyres and tyrestrategy, than it is about just going flat out for the full duration of the race, as they used to be able to do. But you just cant do that anymore, the tyres will wear off then.
Vettel used the right strategy and he made a fantastic overtake on Webber, setting it up just right. Webber knew he was comming, and was just not fast enough to keep Vettel behind.
And on another note, it was a bad call from the team, to try and keep Vettel behind Webber. Vettel obveously had the speed to catch him, so why would you want your number one driver, the tripple world champion, to settle for second place, when a race win was within his grasp?
It was no more than 2 races ago, that Vettel won the Championship by only three points, so every single point counts, why should he say no to the seven points he gained from taking over Webber?
I know there is a lot of Vettel haters, who cant say anything but "THE CAR IS BETTER, CHEATER" F1 has always been this way, and if u take a look at the overtake Vettel just made in the video, u'd know he isnt just any driver.
This is how it should be. fuck team mates ! Just another car in the way in my eyes! This was perfect racing
goddamn if that isnt sensational wheel to wheel action! Shame it came at Webber's expense, but oh well.
I was really angry to Vettel then. But Jesus, what an insane manovra on the pit straight!! Even though his teammate covered the inside, Seb went in there almost touching the wall. THAT IS CRAZY!! Like Barrichello on Schumacher a few years earlier
This is F1 people, for fuck sake! This is about racing, about who is faster and better, not about obeying team's orders. Vettel is the type of "hungry-for-victory" drivers, a hunter, just like Hamilton or Alonso. If he thinks that he is faster than Webber then he's going to pass him to get the first place. Simple as that. I repeat, it's RACING. Btw, this battle give us one of the best moments of 2013 season, one of the few exciting moments in this boring F1 era. (And 2014 season it's even worse).
This is why Hamilton isn't four times champion. Go Vettel
DiesDasTV You don't understand the sport very well.
***** He also lost 2 seasons and only won 1.
***** I still don't get your point. If they had been in a dominant car, Hamilton would have got 2 WDCs, Button 1. Another teammate beaten, no surprise since he's beaten every single teammate he's been against.
Years Hamilton beat his teammate:
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014.
Years Hamilton didn't beat his teammate:
2011.
Cool!
ArakkAttack The only reason ham didnt beat button in 2011 was cause of dnfs, mostly playing tag with massa.
***** no only is that not an excuse, that's not the only reason button comprehensively beat hamilton. there were plenty of races in 2011 button trounced hamilton pacewise and especially racecraft wise. hamilton only had 1 more dnf and button lost ~25 points at silverstone and nurburgring through no fault of his own. a pitlane strategy error also cost button the win at monaco.
what really stood out though was how much of a better racer button was that year. his lack of errors and general overtaking skills in particular were on another level to hamilton. pacewise when hamilton was on top he only had a slight edge, whereas when button was on top the gap to hamilton was embarrassing. button more than doubled hamilton's tally of podiums in 2011.
This onboard will make history. People love such super aggressive stuff instead of fixed racing.
Best battle of the 2013 season.
Thats what i call Racing !!!
Good Skills from Vettel
Another of all the exciting moments of Formula 1!
Webber nearly pushed him into the wall.. when Schumacher did that he got penalised and everyone criticized him. Love how some people even want to defend Webber, he should have been penalized for that move.
One of the best F1 action ever, too bad Vettel tried to make some excuse about this though, he should have just said clearly that he is a real racer that wouldn't settle for 2nd place.
Webber was missing half his apexes no wonder Seb smoked him
Intense, great video and audio.
Senna would have done the same ... Period!
i miss this pure sound in 2014
Well done Seb ¡ everyone says you are not a legend because you always drive with clean air, so let´s attack my teamate he is not expecting it, he is not Kimi to put me against the wall...
Bravo SEB4 u r the best
the problem is that webber had been told to lower the power of his engine and you can clearly see how he struggles when he need traction after turns..that was unfair for sure by the team..fuck vettel
That was so fucking close to a fatality.
The deal is Webber slowed down before this scene allowing Vettel to catch up. If there would have not been team order to hold position, Webber would not have slowed down so I am not sure Vettel would have caught up to him.
sweet move by Vettel, webber nearly put vettel into pit wall before that
some years ago at Hungaroring... Schumacher got a penalty for pushing Barrichello "close to" the wall... and Webber was allowed it leagally to do the same with Vettel? Strange in my opinion...^^
Even just for that risky bitch move from Webber, Vettel deserved the victory :)
IIBLizZII Glad I am not the only one who thought that. Webber was always a mediocre driver but for some reason had so many fanboys, even some idiots who thought he was better than vettel (ROFL PLS).
Webber was quite often an overly aggressive driver, and he never got punished for it., maybe we let him off because most aussies are cunts so its expected. looool come at me boys.
@@jackkilkenny403 mediocre looser in fact
Vettel on option, and webber prime, that's all
nope, vettel is the better driver man :D
SnowPlayz nope, Vettel is on options (Faster tire) Mark is on primes (Slower tire) Vettel was in Mix 3 (Rich = Faster) Mark was in Mix 1 (Lean = Slower) Mark was managing the race. Vettel ignored team orders and risked ruining both their races like he did in Turkey 2010
Gaming Now lol there is no such thing as mix 1,2 or 3. You've been playing way too much F1 2013. And Vettel IS the faster driver, ever since 2009, when the car was designed for Webber. I am no Vettel fan, but he's definately the better driver.
Facepalm.
Vettel the better driver? Yes you mean in the team that is built for just him? Hes a cocky little shit that wouldnt do anything without Newey. Trust me. Nearly all drivers on the field would smash him in equal machinery.
Yes, but explain why Vettel beat Webber in a car that was designed around Webber in 2009? Ofcourse would Alonso and Hamilton wreck Vettel in equal machinery, but Webber is truly overrated. Even though the car wasn't made for him, he failed to score a single win when he had the chance too. And btw, if there's someone cocky it's Alonso. And also, one does not win 9 races in a row in the better car to be called a 'bad' driver. Webber couldn't do it.
My facepalm goes to your overly biased and hatred filled comment, sir.
Vettel's warm options vs webber's cold primes..... Aided by DRS to make the initial move... :(
If you finish second you've lost, you've not won. Vettel when he's in the car wants to win everything just like every other driver, the worst place you can finish in Formula One is behind your team-mate....enough said
Holy shit!!! webber almost blew a tire trying to get some distance from the bullet kid...
The moves was great, but honestly Webber was never going to hold him back. Softer tyres, a double DRS zone and a less turned down engine behind him. Also Vettel ignoring team orders means he isn't a good team player, just like we see him doing whatever he wants in 2014. Good driver, but not the best overall.
THE TRUTH is that since 2010 the world of Formula 1 has been distorted to make it more interesting. Ferrari , Williams, McLaren , teams which have been damaged after a revolution on the regulations . Quite simply the team Red Bull was clearly favored to be able to make it more competitive and then trying to be able to collect that interest on the formula which had waned .
The interest of Formula 1 in the years 2008/2010 has touched the bottom , and by doing so they wanted to bring the Formula 1 back to important interests.
Unfortunately, doing so has ruined a sport that today has an interest equal to moto GP if not less .
I am an aeronautical engineer , and I will not go into intricate details , unfortunately the advantage of Red Bull on the big is remarkable, that advantage has delayed the development of the car.
A standardized level the gap can not be bridged before 3/4 years , and it is what we have seen in recent years.
I'm sorry for the fans of Red Bull, but it was a historical concept of F1 to do know .
At 3:51-3:52 Mark has the choice to commit to the racing line and to push Vettel of the track. He didn't, he should have.
pFor all the abuse Seb gets for this and the whole multi 21 saga, its got to be said that this is some of the best F1 racing in years. Balls out, no holds barred, right on the absolute limit. Its more like a dogfight than an F1 race. In these days of tyre management, fuel saving and driving to a delta, I can't believe Seb doesn't get credit for some of the rawest *racing* in years. For all those who say Seb is only world champion because of Neweys car, pause it at 3:26.
that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard dude. Last Year Vettel dominated. I took naps during the races. Vettel is a goober and can't inspire the fans to like him. He can win the championship with accolades and the best car but a true champion will inspire the fans.
Jeremy Bradley you are jealous! Vettel is the best driver ever!
Yeah, only when he whines and gets spoiled by his own team.. Like asking for his teammates car parts when he destroyed his own
In motogp i never see marquez asking for pedrosa's bike parts when he struggles, instead he just asks for the older model that he liked better
You can clearly see Vettel is a good driver, far too cocky for his skill though... You can't be like that to your teammate, that's just irresponsible.
Great battle
team orders destroy real racing, new engines destroy sound, FIA disallowing engine in-season development destroy inter-team battles. fuck team orders, fuck the turbos, bring back the v8s, fuck the system. no wonder teams exit and fans left to watch other motorsport. isnt it embarrassing that the so-called "Pinnacle of Motorsport" has cars with lap times close to that of GP2 cars? U know what would make F1 turn out the best in the world? Same engine, same car. let the drivers tweak to their own liking. then you will get racing and you will see the best driver.
+TheGU1T4RFR3AK A dream in which we could see Alonso Hamilton and Vettel fighting every week end... too perfect to be true unfortunately
if that was horse racing and there was 2 horses from the same stable and one was told to loose it to let his stable mate win. jockey would get banned
Better than Hamilton and Rosberg battles.
multi21
very asyncron
When Vettel was Vettel
3:25 Scheiß die Wand an, dat nennt man knapp kalkuliert.
im dont follow racing a lot.....but once in a while i watch this and i feel that this whole concept of teammates and partners is just stupid. You race to win. thats that. you shouldnt have to slow down or to ask the team to have someone move out of the way.
This was awesome racing! I'm glad Vettel didn't listen to this team politics bullshit and just went for it!
Gran manejo de vettel!
Im a fan boy.. I stopped watching f1 in 2006, guess why.. :D
iLuvHardStyle WE DON'T CARE!
iLuvHardStyle cus you're gay?
Sound´s out of sync
ricciardo >>>>>> vettel >>>>>>> webber
cristiano henrique Me >>>>> ricciardo >>>>> you >>>>> random dustbin
Sorry, thought we were just making shit up.
cristiano henrique Vettel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ricciardo. The only reason why he beated Seb during 2014 season was because Ricciardo had a better car. Seb's car failed all over the season. Vettel is a 4-time world champion, Ricciardo has 3 victories. Enough said.
+RodHammett95 No. They both had 3 DNFs. Ricciardo has Australia , Malaysia and Brazil. Vettel has Australia , Austria and Monaco. No excuse
+Harry Jean Charles touch'e lol
ahahah vettel e troppo forte
Webber is all about excuses, Vettel is all about winning. A shame there aren't many competitors like Vettel in F1 nowadays, with that stupid vacuum cleaner cars that they now use...
Not a fan of either,but I agree this was proper racing.Too many rules and changes now
+Daniel Matos Team told Webber to turn his engine down to preserve the engine and said that Vettel wouldn't overtake.....Webber did this and Vettel ignored the team orders and turned his engine power up to overtake Webber....how is this an excuse?
+Thomas Gibson A race is a race, you are there to win or to end up in any other position. And it's not like this happened once, if Webber was that good, he had plenty off races during several years to show how he was the best, but he always came in second to Vettel no matter what.
And if Webber was so naive that expected Vettel to gladly accept 2nd place, then that by itself shows his 2nd place mentality. And that's not a champion's mentality.
+Daniel Matos I get that, but like with any other race, each driver has a strategy and Webber's clearly trumped Vettel's....so in the interests of the team and preserving the cars, they told them to power down the cars and save wear and tear...It's a blatant stab in the back....Vettel even admitted it himself after the race
+Thomas Gibson you are correct! if you dont like team orders or if you do they are there and legal. They told seb to turn in down and he did not. Vettel came in at the end of webbers career. everyone seems to forget him in the jaguar days where he smashed all his team mates and out preformed the car majorly. He use to be the qualifying specialist. But like all great racers they tend to get slower as they get older and Webber is no different. But ifs and buts this is old news now...
And Ricciardo destroyed, the average favoured driver Vettel.
SiamkaterLP cz u kids see the result of the races and judge whitout taking a deep look
SiamkaterLP dude...these kids are just aussi fanboys who know nothing about engines and cars...the fact that Ricciardo has won just 3 races in 70 starts tell you all about how average he's...and that guy is 25 already...!! All he can do is 3rd or 4th at his best when others are having a bad day.
lala mal yeah...fuck off !! When you look at great f1 racers who have won championships...look at their win rates..even when they were really young and not even the favorites..his is not anywhere near them...!! If you can't win races...you are not good enough to be champion, doesn't matter how many times you hit the podium .He had one good season...and kids like you think he's god. He's fucking average who wins when others are having a bad day. All he can be is next Nico Roseberg...who shares the podium most of the times but has never see what a championship trophy looks like.!!
Yeah destroyed. Front wing damage from first lap and kyvat only got 9th. Barely ahead of ricciardo lol
lala mal Whatever... It wasn't big damage and besides Kvyat hasn't had any race experience in this car before this race and got hit and spun around by Hulkenberg and yet still was all over Ricciardo, so yes Kvyat beat Ricciardo, must be the new best driver in the world young Kvyat.....
I find it funny that no one can spell Ricciardo properly...
It is an entertaining spectacle
Them V8's o.o forgot what they sounded like
RIP Awesome noise
Webber drove so much better here.
I don't see why Webber is annoyed about this. Yeah the team told Seb to stay behind, but at the end of the day it's a race. They are both paid to race and the fans pay to come and watch the race.
Still doesn't give him the right to undermine the teams authority. There is a chain of command that needs to be respected. Basically see doesn't know his place. The team encourage this by when they pander to him
Still a race, Vettel obviously wanted the win more than Webber