Decoding The 64mm Freewing F-14 Tomcat - Model AV8R Early-Week Special
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Easy to fly, tough to land?? In this rare early-week episode release, we bring in Dustin again with his Freewing twin 64mm F-14 Tomcat. This plane seems to be a puzzle many can't seem to figure out, and Dustin has some info that may be able to help. He'll discuss landing technique, common issues with the plane, and address a frequently asked question about it. He'll also narrate two new quick demo flights, one with the wings extended, and one with the wings fully swept the entire flight! We'll also include Dustin's full set-up. Hopefully, this will help some pilots with what has the potential be a great jet...when it is handled correctly.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:28 Common Issues/How To Avoid Them
06:21 Landing Techniques/Tips
09:02 Flight Footage: Wings Extended
13:09 Flight Footage: Wings Swept (From T.O. to Land)
16:38 New Flap Settings/FAQ/Final Thoughts On Skill Level
24:22 Dustin's Set-Up Info Page
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Way too many pilots expect a fighter jet to handle like a Timber. It needs thrust to land, very much like the full scale counterpart. Happy to see you guys clearing this up for people.
Yep. Dustin thought this might help some folks.
Thanks Dustin for the information. Especially the extra flap deflection. It made the landings smoother. I have 15 flights on it. It gets better the more you fly it. It is a challenge to fly well,definitely deserves respect .
That swept wing takeoff and landing was wild haha
Yep, surprised me too!
Great info, Dustin! Thanks for hooking us up with this video, Adam.
Lots to digest here. 👍
Thanks Al! Dustin did a great job!
very informative and interesting ! 👍
Thanks!
Thank you Adam for having Dustin on to share his knowledge and insight on this beautiful plane. I think one of the greatest advancements in modern R/C is the light wing loading making planes do things they could never do in real life, but it gets so many people in trouble when they move to high wing loaded planes, by the time a person is ready for this they should know that.
Thanks man. Yep Dustin thought this might help some folks, so here we are!
Excellent video. Always learning something from you on this channel. I love this bird. I put two Hacker StreamFan 2900kv 70m EDFs with Hacker ESCs. It was a long process hoaning the foam out and reinforcing the foam with minwax and lightweight glass cloth. I also replaced all the servos with MKS servos. It is a rocket ship that has not had issues yet. Knock on wood. It's the first time I spent lots of money on electronics for a foamy. I just love it that much. I spent double the kit's price on electronics. I also bought 3 extra PNP kits in case something happens or they get discontinued. (Yes I love it that much) Thanks again for sharing this bird and the advice from the pilot. Keep up the great work.
Thanks man! Wow, you do love them! Awesome.
Great video as ever and very useful. One observation I had was the demands on the pilot will be increased where you have to turn tight finals and/or have to deal with turbulence off trees etc. and/or land on a short runway. I can see it being a lot easier if you are able to turn finals a decent way out and at a decent height and then turn attention to achieving/getting a feel for commanding a suitable rate of descent as well as (given a long runway) bring able to land when the plane is nicely set up, even if that doesn't happen at the ideal point on the runway. On the videos, I could see how much skill was needed to avoid disaster at that field and in those conditions. Well done that man 👍
Thanks man! There is a bit more room than the lenses show, but it was a challenging day none the less, and Dustin did a great job. We do get some funky winds due to the trees you see as well as the ones behind us.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I could tell from his turn rate and while descending, that this was a circuit where you had to be able to multitask well. I think some of the big flat sites ought to make it easier to learn the Tomcats ways at a more leisurely pace. Then again, this is not a suitable plane as a first or even second EDF so maybe its for pilots who are already on top of that game. And then again, Miramer gives even the best of the best a bit more space for settling in than a rolling aircraft carrier flight deck 👍😆
This is very well explained! It's pretty how I try to explain to people when they ask me about this jet. I hate that this plane gets a bad rap when it's actually a pretty awesome plane. It just takes a certain amount of skill to fly it, especially landing it, and unfortunately, not everyone has that amount of skill to do so. Not only is it not for a beginner, but it's also not for someone who doesn't have the right amount of skill. Having said that, practice makes perfect but practice with a different plane before jumping into this one. Well done fellas! 👏👏🫡🫡
Thanks man! Yep, a lot of planes get a bad rap due to a lack of humility on the pilots part...the Twin 40mm Tomcat comes to mind as well.
Excellent video Team AV8R. The wise pilot will take heed and avoid unnecessary pain and destruction 😁. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Mike!
Great Video Adam👏🏾 !
like with anything else that looks cool or is worth while; it takes work to be good at. Folks want the pot of gold but don’t want to traverse the rainbow of challenges that it takes to get there. SMH. Tomcat pilots called the plane a beast and often said it could scare them silly. The twin 64 is fast, looks amazing in the air, sounds fantastic and test the size of your stones regularly! What more could you ask for?…..
Thanks man! I'm with you. I like the challenge of a plane that requires some skill and technique...especially if it is a scale plane. I want the "scale experience" so to speak. Not everybody agrees though...
Simply put, you said it best at the end. This is Not a beginner jet. It flies like the 80mm it's heavy, it flies heavy, and requires power much like a warbird. You two did a great job dispensing some issues and explaining solutions. Thanks for the great follow up. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you David! You know brother...nobody but you can bush fly with a Tomcat!
@@ModelAV8RChannel I was doing it with a viper 90 and an F-22 this morning lol
@davidsnyder238 Two things...Awesome, and not surprised! Lol
I've said these exact same comments about this plane to everyone at the field that asks about it.
It's like you reached into my brain...lol
Lol. Great Jet, but not for everybody.
Thank you Both for this video, very thorough and informative. As tom said in 1985 top gun movie I have the need for speed!
Hey Dennis! Yep, we were glad to do it. Dustin's idea.
I think this is one jet i will avoid Adam. There were so many problems i read about with the 50mm one as well.
Great interview/ discussion.
Thanks Noel! Yep, Tomcats are a different breed. Great planes, but require different skills than you average EDF.
Well done Adam and Dustin. I've seen lots of YT folks having issues. As usual, its a pilot error on not flying THIS plane correctly.. Your video should really help pilots get the most of this plane ..
Thanks Will. Yes sir, "It's the plane" is used way more often than it is accurate.
Good info and review Dustin and Adam I like this edf but I know I am not ready for it good video 😊👍👍👍
Thanks Frank!
Another good video ! It is cool that Dustin is so experienced with this jet that he is able to display it quite well. The swept wing take off sure looked sharp. Since you both commented about landing with power - it seems quite necessary to have a good feel for the available power left in the battery. He had to go around some, and if there wasn't enough battery capacity to do this I'm guessing things would go bad in a hurry.
Thanks man! Yep, this one requires energy and time management.
Outstanding! you two make a great team, the aerodynamic incite was like food for the starving. I had my first perfect landing ever with my BTD (beat to death) F/A-18 and it was just the same procedure that Justin described, power to idle on the final descent, about -30 yards out throttle to a high idle, adjust as needed for glide slope/ rate of descent, AOA, lineup.... BOOM caught the 3 wire
Thanks Pappy! Congrats on mastering the F-18. That is another one that won't land itself.
Very good advice. I ended up selling mine because I couldn't get the landings right because I was coming in too fast or coming in with a high AOA and stalling it. After I almost hit a fellow pilot after it bounced and stalled, I decided it was time to move on.
I understand. Might be a plane to revisit later.
If they update the 80. My other issue is the size.
Thank you for the video.
Why is the aerodynamic guy not talking about the wingtips? They put a laminator flow airfoil on the wingtips that’s why this thing sucks at landing so many model mustangs have been ruined by putting in a laminator flowing on them.
Dustin may chime in.
I have no idea what "Laminator Flow" is, but all wings have Laminar flow regardless of the airfoil shape. Full scale mustangs had what they called a "Laminar Airfoil"...which was an airfoil that moved the thickest part of the wing more to the center to increase the speed of the laminar flow over the wing...which increased the speed of the plane. Pretty much no model mustang has this kind of wing as a model with that kind of wing won't fly worth a darn. The Reynolds number of a model doesn't translate with that kind of airfoil because you can't scale down the atmosphere. Most models use a more conventional (and forgiving) airfoil with the thickest part of the wing at between 20 and 30 % from the leading edge. I've flown a lot of model Mustangs (like 20 different ones)...none of them had a Laminar airfoil, and they all flew fine for me. The biggest difference in the ones that are less forgiving is a higher wing loading not the airfoil. I've seen many that can't fly them well...and many had excuses. Somehow its always the plane but never the pilot, lol.
When it comes to this F-14, some guys can land it, and some can't. Dustin gave instruction on how to do it successfully. If it was as bad as you say it is he couldn't do it, I couldn't do it...no one could. If it had a laminar airfoil wing like a full scale Mustang that would cause issues elsewhere. We don't think it it is a bad flyer at all, and it doesn't suck at landing if its executed correctly. We know the popular thing on RCG is to blame the wingtip design...and there may be a legit minor issue, but the 3 Dustin has flown land just fine...so clearly it isn't a huge issue that technique can't overcome. The video isn't about pissing and moaning about an airplane...its about sharing how Dustin has managed to get the best out of it.
Absolutely Brilliant - exactly what was needed regarding all the Misinformation around this Aircraft - lets hope this helps a lot of pilots handle this Bird with some confidence , (Including yours truly) Now I know , and Knowing is half the battle - See what I did Adam ? thanks Dustin.
I do see what you did Martyn! Lol.