486 133mhz vs Pentium 60, DX4 100 and DX2 66 Benchmarks
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2015
- One of the fastest 486 ever made VS the first Pentium processor.
Computer spec from right.
"Partman 486"
Promise EIDE2300 plus
15" IMP Tulip monitor
ATI MACH 64 ISA
Intel 486 DX2 66 mhz (later in video 133Mhz Kingston"
Soundblaster 8-bit
500mb harddrive
32mb ram
Dell Optiplex 560/l
Lg / Goldstar Studioworks 56i
Nvidia NV1 (their first graphics card ) Diamond Edge 3D
Pentium 60 mhz
500mb harddrive
32mb ram
IBM DX4-100
15" monitor
Onboard Cirrus Logic 5430
Intel 486 DX4 100
Soundblaster 16
500mb harddrive
16mb ram Наука
Very cool comparison, loved it.
Lazy Game Reviews Thank you very much!
+Lazy Game Reviews I can't believe this guy's got a Diamond Edge 3D. :P
LGR Hi LGR!
Man, this is so damn cinematic, it's awesome!
=) thanks!
Or you just super jealous because that's how I feel right now
I had a Pentium 66, but I overclocked mine for 80Mhz, used it till 2002.
I would say that's a hell of an upgrade, but it's weird to put into perspective. A computer from 2009 is still fairly usable today.
Got amd 486 100mhz 16 mb, this comuter was used until 2018 year from 1995 in our hospital)) it was well for windows 95 and patient database )
@@cuh33 LOL did you ever see your name as a patient!
Mine "only" did 75 and one had to cool the northbridge to have it run reliably - it was a Siemens board. 80 must have been the absolute limit.
I could almost smell that vintage hardware in my mind. Thanks for this
Haddcore Nice to hear! Thank you!
This was a great trip back to my teenage years. Thanks!
TrancezoOr Good to hear =) thanks
my mid 20s :}
i remember going from a 486 dx 33 mhz to a Pentium 75. Abysmal difference and finally able to master Quake!
My 486 DX 100 had a turbo switch on it MADE ALL the difference
I went from a 486-SLC-33 (terrible - not even a real 486) to a Pentium 100. Still wasn't fast enough for me. A few months later I paid £200 or a Pentium 200Mhz CPU. THEN I was happy.
Oh this is just wonderfully nostalgic :D WELL DONE!!!
Johan Fredriksson Thak you very much!!
Man, this Tron music with your setup is savage! I love it!
Thanks Man!
Mannnnn, so well done! I'm blown away by the nostalgia!!
Very nice, I've got a couple of cool old computers but this video inspires me to get more. Unfortunatley I've lost most of my original computers
I think after pentium 4 computers lost their charm.
You too feel that way? I have felt pentium 4 2.4ghz with Windows XP (lower than sp3) was my best computer I had. Currently, I have an i5 3.5ghz with Win7 and felt while i5 is a great processor, Win7 seems to be a ok. I swore I'll never get Win10 but guess what? I needed a laptop and Win7 no longer available. Had to swallow Win10. **sigh**
Pentium was super exciting after 486. Pentium MMX was a great upgrade. Pentium 2 was awesome. Pentium 3 was very, very good. Pentium 4 was complete garbage, first big disappointment from Intel.
I remember watching benchmarks in frustration when Pentium 4 first came out.
But then core 2 duo was great. You could probably sit on Q6600 for nearly 10 years until i7-4790.
No ! They get there charm back, when that horrible Pentium 4 did die !
The P4 aka inefficient Hotplate, with the Netburst Architecture was such a garbage ! A P4 3.8ghz ! is just 27% faster as a Intel Celeron 420D with 1,6ghz.
And you can overclock the Celeron 420D up to 3.2ghz !
ruclips.net/video/fMY40eYMvsU/видео.html
Intel did it right when trashing the P4, and go back to the P3 to create the excellent Intel Pentium M ! That little beast was a higly modified and very efficient working P3 !
And with that they created the excellent Intel Core CPU's
@@cheath8705 I totally agree. In my case, my desktop computer has Windows 7, I have quite administrator skills, when I use my laptop (win10) I feel like Im using a phone...and I feel like a grandfather, it really sucks...
I only have retro gaming PCs now DOS to XP era I have had high end i7 GTX 1080 etc and sold it the new games and hardware just isn’t as fun as it used to be still have a blast on my retro gaming hardware though
Love these retro tests. My first PC was a Packard Bell with an i486SX-33 cpu. Later I upgraded it to a i486DX4-100/OD cpu. Performance was night and day, and I could finally play Aces of the Pacific with no stuttering!
You know, in the 90s you would super reach to have that, nowadays you're super lucky to play around with those iconic machines!
I'm really jealous of how clean those systems are.
I've got a few rigs that could be this good, but it's so difficult to locate software and drivers for this equipment, and I didn't really have the benefit of experience, as my first real PC experiences came a few years after this (born in 91).
***** Thank you! you should put them together =)
No really it isn't I can point you in the direction of those
I just need to know what pieces are in them and I can try and help you
Here archive.org/details/operatingsystemcds?and%5B%5D=windows+95&sin=&sort=-downloads
Or
archive.org/details/dos71cd
Also this:
winworldpc.com/download/01c38063-1542-c38a-11c3-a7c29d255254 windows 3.11!
its not that hard to be honest a pain yes but not that difficult the hard part now days is finding media to transfer what u need to vintage computers unless u get one of them sd card hdd adapters
@@johncoyle707 PCI/ISA USB cards, and then FAT formatted pen drives. Set a tiny partition. Or just use a CD rom.
seriously more stuff like this would be great
Shingo Yabuki Thaks! more to come soon!
bro i became a fan of your slow panning of camera on your PCs
OMG that video is awesome! thx!
+Krisztian5HUN Thank you so much
excellent direction, thank you...
Johnny Iz Goroda N Thanks!!
I remember sleeping for weeks. Getting a p75I with Edo ram or a dx 4 133 with fastpage. Im glad I went for the pentium 75I
It costed back then like 2000....without a sb and cdrom.:(
These were the days!
Very nice machines! Also awesome seeing them all "on the run".
The Pentium60/66 was unfortunately held back by its chipset and only very few folks had boards like the SI5PI AIO & the R512 which both sported an SiS chipset which enabled the cpu to bring abit more to the table. The original Pentium, despite it being a hot behemoth, can be overlocked - I managed to run mine at 75mhz on a Siemens based semi-industrial board.
Btw, great music & the original Warcraft was such a treat!
From what I remember, the 486 was really quite sensitive to a number of different factors.
You really, really needed a good VLB graphics card to perform well in games. No matter how fast the CPU was, there was a maximum pixel fillrate you could achieve over ISA bus. In a game like Doom this was a big problem; a fast 486 could easily render it at 35 FPS, but would be stuck at 20-something FPS because of the ISA bus. On quake it probably doesn't matter; the amount of time spent bottlenecked by the ISA bus is probably small if not using VLB.
The 486 and pentium had external L2 cache on the motherboard. Most pentium boards had 256 kB soldered to the MB and it was often expandable to 512 kB with an SRAM module that looked quite similar to a stick of SDRAM. Where as 486 systems had a wider breadth of options; it could have no L2 cache on the board and no sockets to add any; some L2 cache soldered to the motherboard with no option to add more; some L2 cache soldered to the MB with the ability to add more or no L2 cache soldered to the MB but a bunch of sockets to add it. There was also a big difference in performance on 486 between write back cache and write through cache.
Hi! I have put a good VLB in it now. A lot has changed since i made this video. I also have a write back AMD 486 133@160mhz that i will put to the test
Again late to the party, but 486's did not need to rely on the ISA you also had Vesa local bus and pci. My diamond stealth was a pci slot. That went in my 486 sx-33.(lol just found one on ebay for £25)
it takes me back to 1994, when I grew up around these computers. They are slow by today's standards but boy did technical guys love to compare these machines back then! What's funny is that they had 8 Meg of RAM, not 8 Gig of RAM and hard disks measured in megabytes, not gigabytes, and for the software of that time, based on DOS, they were fast! It goes to show you how much bloat there is in today's software. Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Games, all these same concepts still exist, but I bet you nobody complained about the speed of their processor in typing a Word Perfect Document! What's also interesting is that these machines were very expensive, in their time with a nicely equipped machine costing about $2,000 and today, kids have killer machines for $350 and almost everyone has a computer. Back in the early 90's not everyone could afford a computer! The video is almost cinematic..good music and good video editing! Makes me nostalgic!
my first computer was a packerd bell with a 75mhz pentium it had 24 megs of ram 2 4 mb sticks of 72 pin 2 8 mb ram i remember this computer would decently run anything that required 90mhz or less i only ever had to upgrade it back in the 90s to a p 133 just so i could play ff7 on the pc till i got to a part the video card wouldnt do lol the times
my first one was Pentium 60... found your video! THX! almost crying... ;.-) How great the Sound of the HDDs and the Coolers...
That 486 on the right has such a beautiful design. The shape and color are so reminiscent of what we believed futuristic cutting edge tech should be. That machine still had one design leg in the 70s and could have been on the space ship in Kubrick's 2001.
GreatNorthWeb Thank you, yes its my favorite.. =) not to fast not to slow
Man... That computer is a legend! And you have three! I envy you!
Scorpion Dawnstar Thak you!!
Awesome track to put this to. The pinnacle of the computing age. By that I mean that since the technology has been obfuscated and made more disposable.
I had a gsi8v only cause i couldnt efford the 16v engine in the nineties early twenties. Nice video. I remember the 486 time as i grow up in the nineties.
Nice video. Loved the music. Can you list the tracks in the description please? Sounded very Tron/Inception combined :)
+LieboOSBA They are all from Tron =)
Very nice to see the differences between these processors. I had a 486 DX4 133 for many years. I totally skipped the Pentium 1 generation entirely and waited for the Pentium 2 before upgrading. Kind of glad I did as the Pentium 1 wasn't really a huge jump over the 486 DX 4 processor. Just looking back at those processors though, compared to today's i-core Intel processors the 486/586 look like they would be basically standing still next to a Kaby Lake processor :)
I can hardly wait to see what the next 25 years of processors looks like....maybe Qbit processing machines? Maybe even something better? Should be fun!
Was the Duke Nukem 3D benchmark res at 800x600? The low-looking FPS numbers suggest more like 800x600, if not 1024x768! (Which was like 2160p, or 1080p back then!)
With a Pentium 100, I couldn't recall having much of a hard time at 1024x768, IIRC or the highest it allowed... While a 486 SX 25 mhz was real slow, even at 320x200, IIRC, LOL.
My first computer was a AMD 386DX 40Mhz . I did this progression updates over the machine :
1º Add a math copro
2º AMD 486DX5 at 133 Mhz ( I run Quake and Star Trek Starfleet academy demon on it, this last played on "slow motion")
3º AMD K6-2 300Mhz
4º AMD Duron 1,3 Ghz (on a AOpen AK77 board. Was faster that an HP computer with an Athlon at 1Ghz that had my father)
5º AMD Athlon 64 x2 (socket AM2)
6º AMD FX-4100 (actual CPU)
This is art.
ma man. This is exactly what I was about to buy. You just saved me a bunch of money. Im gonna get a 486DX4-100mhz just for the hell of it. I have a 10700k 5.1ghz all core overclocked 8 core cpu but I feel I need another 486 in my life. Even though it has no practical purpose, think of it like a mac, I just want it and its nice. No real practical need.
Nice video, three great PCs
Back in the mid 90s, I had both a 5x86 OCed to 160 and a Pentium 66. I still remember that 2D DOS games and most Windows tasks ran faster on the 5x86, anything 3D e.g. Duke3d, Quake, the Pentium still blew it away. However the Pentium was one of the rare early VLB boards so it was fairly slow, I'm sure a better motherboard would have put up more of a challenge to the 5x86..
The 5x86 regardless was my most favorite PC I ever owned, and still pretty bummed that I got rid of it years ago.
Nice video. Would you have any more info/ photos of the Optiplex 560L somewhere? Thanks
Sam Small Thanks! No i dont but i can take some photos some day :)
GSi16vrs certainly a rare beast. I have an Optiplex xl and gl with the same cases. Interested in seeing more of your 560 :D
Thank you for an interesting video.
+Takaaki Sakamoto Thanks!
I just received my dx2 80 and I cant wait to get the thermal compound which is on the way :)
I have a Packard Bell Legend 125 with a 486 sx 25 with a slot for an overdrive processor .
Since it's too expensive I chose a ST dx2 80 and this video is so nice, there is no way out, I will do the benchmark and I know my setup is nothing powerful but to me this is the speed I am targeting out of pure nostalgia. The chariots of fire is a very nice song and this video proves it :) Even if the comparison is made with different video cards it's still nice to see someone doing it on real CRTs . I see it as in like 3 friends back then would bring their pc over to compare and do some death matches with one person having a big advantage in quake :P thumbs up
Update : the dx80 I ordered was still waiting for the thermal paste and heatsink BUT i decided to go ahead and order a bunch of better stuffs like a nice Intel 486 Overdrive Processor - DX20DPR66 (SZ935 V4.0) , then I ordered a AT Socket7 Motherboard Intel ATC-1000 + Intel Pentium 166 (with heatsink and fan) + 32mb. Then I was like hey I need an AT keyboard and also a Genius GM-V606 Mouse for Printer Port 3 Buttons , a Gainward Dragon 4000 Voodoo Banshee Video card adapter PCI . I have a I/O card I will put in there for the mouse ,a PCI ESS audio card (1938??) and I already have a 2 digits mhz display that I could put in this new rig but...!!!! I think I will buy a very tall tower with a 3 digits MHZ display which is around 230 canadian bucks..so that will wait :P
I plan to make some comparison with my poor packard bell legend which will be at 66mhz :P this video is the best thing ever!! MERRY X-MAS !!! MY X-MEN !!!
I can’t help but notice the mainframe / midframe style 122-key keyboard on the left with the 24 function keys.
I really liked the idea of the test but I would like to see a comparison with EVERYTHING being equal besides the CPU.
Just found the video, whilst late to the party I have to agree. The video card, just like today can make the world of difference to the game speed. I remember plugging in my diamond stealth for the first time, the frame rates more than quadrippled. I still think the pentium would more than likely win, but I think it would be much closer with the dx4100/133.
Very-very cool!
P.S: Nice cellular phone on the left PC )) (Nokia?)
+UT4UUM Thank you! yes its a 1611 =)
Well okay RUclips algorithm, show me that video from 2015. Why not.
Dear god man, what an intro!
It's nice to see a comparison between these systems, but if you wanted to compare just the processor performance, you should have run them all with the same video card, as the differences between those cards could greatly affect the final results in tests with hardware acceleration such as the Quake and the 3d tests.
Nice video, please next...
What's the music that plays during the Quake timedemos?
nostalgy, 25 years later i'm surprised the battle between amd and intel still going on, and no other competitors
Grym video Rickard! Säg till om du kommer över nån gammal DX4. Vill ha en retro-maskin. /Johnne
+xtrance25 Tack Johnne jag ska hålla utkik
What is the name of the soundtrack at the start of the video?
It reminds me of somehow of the new XCOM music
Tron Legacy - Soundtrack OST - 04 Recognizer by Daft Punk
Had a DX4 myself, got a lot of mileage out of it. Even hosted a website and a forum as late as 2005 on it.
I've seen a Nvidia NV1 Diamond Edge 3D card on eBay where the person wants $500 for it.
It hasn't sold though but I have seen an auction on one in which it sold for around $125 USD or so. a few months backThey are quite rare graphics cards.
I have a few PC's similar to yours except one of them has the Intel Pentium OD chip in it at 83 Mhz (it was originally a (486) Dell Optiplex 450/Le.I obtained it at a thrift store for $10 about 10 years ago
BTW I enjoyed this video as I myself had an obsession for quite a while with fast 486 class and early Pentium PC's though my favorite PC's were those with with 3DFX graphics cards and Aureal Vortex (1 or 2) sound cards in them usually around the Pentium II or early Pentium III era with Windows 98SE.Basicially my favorite PC era was from the 486 to early Pentium III range or just the 1990's to keep it simple.When Windows XP and later versions of Windows came with (DRM) activation and PC Games had prohibative DRM in the early 2000 era it spoiled the fun and freedom of PC's and PC gaming for me.
Love The Tron Legacy Background Music
486 60 MHz was my second PC. That was a good adventure.
I owned DX100 ... what a machine, it crushed everything I threw at it back then
I had a Pentium 60 back in the days, awesome cpu
Cool video, fun systems, but that IBM scores really low in Superscape benchmark. My 486 DX4 100MHz scores 71.4, but that's with an S3 Vision 864 graphics card though. Fun to see how fast the P60 could be though. Quake really was one of those system selling titles for the Pentium :)
i miss those years
Cool video! I remember those days quite well. You should get a Cyrix 5x86 class CPU and re-run that test. If I remember right, the Cyrix 5x86 has Pentium architecture in a 486 package. Another hot CPU was the AMD 5x86-133 @ 160MHz but it didn't have the FPU of the Cyrix 5x86.
It's a kneecapped 6x86.
+DIY Dan The Kingston Turbochip 133 i use in the video using AMD 5x86. I also have 3 pcs of the AMD 5x86-133
I wonder whats up with the IBM PC-330 100DX4 on the far left - I used to have one of those (T/C 6571-W5K) and used to beat on it mercilessly with Duke Nukem 3D, Postal, and Diablo and it ran Doom way better than that. I had 64MB of RAM with 128K L2 Cache on that one. My current DX4-100 486 system I built myself is a little faster than that 330 was though.
great benchs ;)
As a computer enthusiast, I had all kinds of cpus and motherboards. No matter how good the CPU was, it’s was all down to bus and ram speed. The 486 motherboards simply could not feed the CPU fast enough so you would have massively smooth frame rates in small areas and hard lag in open areas. That’s where the Pentium shines. I’m aware of the FPU performance difference but in reality, it didn’t matter what game you played, it was all the same issue when it came to 3D shooters and whatnot. Quake an Doom weren’t the only outliers, it was all recent games then.
I had the AMD 486 100-DX4 I modified 3 files and I had it running really good in Windows. It kept up and SOMETIMES out performed the Pentium 133 Did not overclocked mine. It ran really good. The person who got it after me did not realize how fast it ran. I showed him the modification I made. It was an impressive beast of a chip.
This pretty clearly shows how strong the pentium was when it came out. Pretty interesting how poor the VGA performance on that early nvidia card in the pentium 60 is too. It would be interesting to see a comparison with better video cards.
I had the AMD 486DX4/100 and it was a pretty strong performer that I had no regrets buying. I actually used mostly AMD chips between then and the pentium 3 I ended up with years later. I had a lot of fun playing games and running OS/2 on that 486. I really wish I still had it. Its pretty wild though to think about how fast processors are now compared to then. My old 486 could do 20 mflops or so and my current i7 laptop gets 35 gflops. Think about that for a minute. I've been using PCs since the 80s and we've come so amazingly far.
My acer NOTE 350E IBM 486 8MB RAM cuts out a bit. I know there is the possibility of lowering fps from the console level. Do you remember what is the command?
Does the DX4 100 have write back memory or write through?
In this video it is write through. I now have a Write Back and its faster than a P75
Ahh the memories, first computer as a b-day present to myself back in mar1996..... intel 486 dx4 100mhz, 850mb hdd, 4mb edo memory, 8x cdrom, 1mb cirrus logic pci video card, opti isa sound card, 14" crt, AT keyboard, serial 3button ball mouse, generic speakers and DOS 6.22, mini AT case, all for the low low price of $1200.
The old cellphone on the 468 DX4.. Just because.
I was the 386th who liked this video.I fell lucky :-) GR8 vid m8!
Thanks!!!
3:42 Ahhhhh Good old times of I.T, F.T, ST2 and ST3... Just missing out on mIRC, ICQ and Netscape :P
Long time ago I used to have P60 (later OC'd to 66MHz, lol, it was HOT!)/8MB RAM (later doubled)/onboard Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434 1MB (later 2MB)/210MB HDD (later 1.3GB + 6.4GB HDDs), 3.5" FDD... Later I added an ISA 16bit sound card (Opti 931), active speakers and 8x CD-ROM (Mitsumi) and that was considered an upgrade back in the day. That was my first Win95 machine, such a great machine! It was really basic desktop PC with 14" VGA monitor (both branded PHILIPS, can't remember the exact models), but it was capable of so many things even by today's standards. Win95 OSR2 + IE4 + Office 95/97 were running great, many great games (such as Duke Nukem 3D, Doom, Quake, NFS2SE, StarCraft, HoMM2 (that was playable even on my father's old 386DX-40/8MB/512KB Trident graphics), Resident Evil 2, Worms and so many others!), any bitrate MP3s (WinAMP with it's great skins and plug-ins), MPEG-1 Video-CDs... even 3D Studio MAX, Bryce3D, Photoshop 4 and my lovely Delphi 3 were running just fine! I've created my very first 3D-engine (using OpenGL and software rendering) and many 3d-models for it on that machine. Using a 56K dial-up modem I was pretty dangerous at IRC-wars aswell ))) Funny fact I still remember the basic scheme of COM-port (DB9) direct connection for "LAN parties" (3-2 2-3 5-5), nobody had that cable! Memories.
What's the song from fasttracker?
I went from a 486sx33 in 1994 t oa DX4-100 in 95 to a P166 in 96 or so. Always wondered how they compared.
I went from a 486-SLC-33 in 1994 to an AMD PR-133 in 1995 and then an Intel Pentium 200 in 1996 (exclusively for Quake).
In those old computer was such a big difference about speed. For example Dx2 66 and 5x86 133mhz.
Sadly these tests are strongly affected by the video cards' speed so they don't really reflect the performance of the CPUs. An ISA card is especially a serious handicap for a high end 486. Though it's possible that a Pentium would still beat it in Quake even in a fair comparison. A Pentium Overdrive 83MHz certainly does, in the same board, with the same VGA.
Very Good!!!!
What is the first song called?
Check the Tron soundtrack
Can u tell me tha name of the first song?
Tron Legacy - Soundtrack OST - Track 04 - Recognizer by Daft Punk
NOthing will ever beat the feeling I had of msdos loading up on amd386dx40 after I upgraded from PCXT. Felt like a supercomputer on steroid. I was actually uneasy and slowed it down to 12MHZ as I thought some components might fry. OOOhhhh those were the days when computers were computers. Todays kids will never have that feeling with cartoonish windows 7/8/10. Bill Gates you brought on such joy only to take it away again. If ever I see you I will splash a pie in your face. LOL
exactly, today people use appliances and not computers... it is becoming increasingly hard to program modern machines. Back in the days you had GW-BASIC and Turbo C which were excellent. Command line forever!
3:43 someone know the name of that song? 🤔
The pentium 60 has a better graphics card and more ram than the DX4, not a 100% fair comparison
tosgem well the pentium also has dual pipelines. It was never going to be a fair comparison lol
Exactly it also had HALF the ram!
@@guitarman13021 Umm.. Dennis the DX4 had QUAD pipelines dx *4* so it SHOULD have run better! I had a DX4 with a TNT1 in there NV1 was TNT1 card AND it could get 35 FPS in quake I was really going to get a POWERVR chip but at 89 bucks it was too expensive the TNT1 (nv1) was priced at $49.95 and came with a DEMO disc which I accidently stepped on and BROKE IT!
@@fr33kSh0w2012 bullshit lol. i don't think you got 35fps in quake even in the smallest screen size possible on a dx4 100mhz.
@@GraveUypo you are right
Nostalgin är stark i denna :)
och307 Tack =)
5:53 Song From Vangelis Chariots of Fire
so.. nice.. old and classic
Difference between P60 and DX4/100 in quake is shocking. Pentium FPU was a massive improvement
Excellent video , I love old computers like the ones you have , and are robust . I think that made them better material than current computers
+raulazarias Thank you! Yeah i agree they are more robust. I recently build a 286 16mhz from 1989 and i will post a video soon. It is rock solid!
GSi16vrs Excellent 'll wait your video greetings
Not a very good comparison, considering the 486 has to do with some onboard graphic crap, while the pentium gets a dedicated gpu and twice as much ram as well. What's the point of doing a vs video when the hardware is not exactly the same or at least comparable at all?
Var har du köpt filten? :)
Centron93 Jag minns tyvärr inte =)
Everything was so magical back then. More black magical, maybe, as floppies were a severe pain.
man, recently i bought a nice complete Acer 486 computer, it has its orignal keyboard and monitor, but it lacks of cache, does cache really makes a huge difference? its worth to get cache chips or just a fast processor? windows 95 is sluggish at 100mhz
+Bloodbath2you I think it could make your machine a tiny bit faster in games (more FPS)
But I don't think it will stop the slugginess of the OS. Is it a fresh install ? Maybe the HDD is slower than normal ?
maybe, but the machine is real sluggish, i've read on some forums that people can run w95 at 66mhz but nice with no problems, also doom gets some heavy slowdowns
+Bloodbath2you speedsys rated the HDD 198.5, it was formatted before installation
Bloodbath2you
It's stange, I had a DX2 without cache that ran 95 and doom very well (ok, I've never finished the game, but I had no problems at all)
But now this 486 is back to it's original specs : 486DX+8MB+win 3.11
And I've added cache memory, but I didn't see any difference (I tried windows 95 just before downgrading it, and I didn't see any changes)
Does your computer have a turbo button ? Did you try to press it ? I have a very bad motherboard that ran 95 and doom VERY VERY badly (and it was a DX2 too). But when I pressed that button, the computer ran like my other 486 ! It seems that some turbo button underclock the cpu when you press them, but some of them does the reverse. That's strange, and when you don't know (like me), you're wondering why it is so slow.
Or maybe try to look in the bios or at the jumpers to see if the frenquency is correct ?
specs : Acer A1G Motherboard
AMD 486DX2 Enhanced (no WB, 3x multiplier on)
36 MB RAM 70 ns
Cirrus Logic GD-5424 Onboard 512KB
Seagate ST??¿? 4GB limited to 2GB
SoundBlaster 32 no simm ram
it has no turbo button, but a keyboard convination to slow down to something like a 286, jumpers all ok
mmm seems like my machine is just budget, even for the 90's cause there are few things exposed, it has traces for a local bus IDE connector and controller with no componens, so no 32-bit hdd support, no VLB slots = stuck with the ondboard video, which is already bottlenecked by the little 512kb...in addition to lack of cache...
ps : excuse my english
omg that middle pc has the same cd drive my first computer ever had i think it was like a 2x speed the times i wished i had a 4x cd rom drive back in the day
those screens messed up my eyes pretty bad back in the days...
TrueDesireHD But the games looked and felt so nice compared to LCDs
Tudorgeable
that depends, games running in 10-20fps switching discs (up to 6 of them in mortal kombat) and annoyingly loud. and much later (years), when i finally could afford a good 20" ms LCD i tossed my old 20" CRT that weighed around 15kg or something. and my eyes were dramatically better. i still suffer from those "black bars" that appear random in my eyesight but not as much as back then.
i can admit that nostalgia will always live on, but its not as good as one remember, when one tries the old goldies :P
TrueDesireHD I agree on nostalgia having influenced my perception about them but still, them black blacks, them refresh rates, typical lcds don't hold a candle to them. I did had headaches from them but my vision is fine thankfully. Black bars, that's scary, what do you mean black bars? Tunnel vision?
Tudorgeable plus you could play on an abysmally low resolution and still get decent detail whereas on lcds anything not native is very jaggy and ugly.
+Chaniyth i actually visited a hospital and got my eyes checked, other than having -0.5 eyesight there is nothing wrong with them :p
beasts
My 1st computer was a Packard bell and it had a Pentium that ran at 75mhz
Quake was a killer app for selling Pentiums like hot cakes! Up until 1995 486 was good enough and 386 up until Dec 1993 when Doom was released.
Cool
What is the name of that that 8-bit tune?
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Bobtehnerd Where can I find it?
Nathaniel Johnson modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=172801
Thanks!
Not sure if the music is epic enough
I think the music is just too damn good and epic for this kind of old hardware lol. I was expecting something like corei7+2080ti hardware LMFAO xD
TINY CORE LINUX APPROVED!
it is more interesting to see how to convert ISA to PCI bus or how to connect USB mouse to com-port or to ISA PS/2 controller...
my notebook Toshiba 486 dx 75 mhz - 41.6 in benchmark.