The reason they Sound so Different, is because; the EHX is cutting-out some of the Bass ( so in essence ) - you are getting all the top-end shimmer from the Mistress. The Mooer E-Lady is Full Frequency, and not shelving-off the Bass end. I am not saying One is Better then the other. ( as with everything in life ), it is all: Personal Preference. I am currently using the Mooer and I absolutely Love It. No Volume Drop. No Bass Drop. Studio Quiet. I can Duplicate: David Gilmour or Andy Summers.
Yes, that's the case with the early EHX but the Deluxe, well mine anyway, has no low end cut but a slight volume drop. The late 90s version that I have sounds different than the more recent models.
I am telling you. ( I am Extremely Picky and Difficult to please ) and the Mooer is Fantastic. It gets me All the Sounds I could ever want ( or need ) for Gilmour or Andy Summers ( I also use then in conjunction with: a Phenomenal Chorus Pedal & equally Impressive Univibe )
I recently got the Mooer and I can clearly hear a slight volume drop -- especially when the Color control is set low. But this is what the Mistress circuit does, and the Mooer captures the Mistress sound extremely well. I just put a Spark mini booster right after the Mooer and it's perfect. (I also own a semi-functional Hartman flanger)
Mooer actually builds pretty accurate clones. I had the Ensemble King for a while, and it sounds exactly like a CE-2, and better than most CE-2 clones out there. They're using good parts on the circuit boards in these things.
I think the Vintage one has a slightly less top end then the easy lady and that's why I think I prefer the electro-harmonix cuz it cut some of that high and that turns into plinky 2010e crap that just doesn't sound electro-harmonix does not have that real high-end rashes so it sounds really smooth cool
No wonder I have been struggling with the eleclady, didn't realize you leave range on zero. Somehow missed this one where its front and center and clearly visible small knob settings. Thanks 7 years later!!
You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need. You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street, You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed. And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight, You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking ; )
I like the Mooer Better. On the E.M. - the Bass Drops Out Tremendously. ( no apparent volume drop or tone sucking ). I ordered one today. Great Sounding little Flanger.
Michael Caz : I wish that range sweep would have been opened up a bit more. Per the EHX DEM manual: "The RANGE control allows you to set the lower limit of the sweep. ... Turning the RATE control clockwise lowers the low limit so that the sweep extends further into the bass." A little more control variance in general would have been nice, as there seems to be a big discrepancy in the rate controls, but overall this is a good demo with useful summary at the end. The verdict for me is to hang on to my vintage DEM for recording and intimate small-board local shows, and if needed for a larger-board and or road show, the Mooer e-lady seems perfectly sufficient, compact and board friendly - plus I would care as much if it got broken or stolen :)
Six years ago I bought not one , but two little angels called Mooer Eleclady because of this video. One is still sealed in box , and the other one in in my humble pedalboard and I save the box. The circuit board and components are top notch. You know something ?, this thing have a real old panasonic mn3207, I’m in my fifties, I have almost 40 very old and wonderfully sounding analog pedal. CE1, electric mistress 2 bateries etc. so Belive me ; the chip is not a cheap chinesse falsification. All said; this thing done something no one of the Self Proclaimed “boutique makers” NEVER DONE, a good sonic replica of the holy grail old ehx deluxe and electric mistress. This thing is a gorgeus sounding pedal; ah!, and of course KILLS my Hartman Flanger; -really well made , original panasonic mn3007!, made in USA bla bla, but I hate it!, too trebly sounding. Well done Mooer
just bought one! THe only reason Ive been going without the mistress (the original one or the deluxe) is because of the non-daisy chain power supply and gigantic real estate it takes up on a pedal board. This should fit in nicely! Thanks Bjorn!
Sorry it’s actually 24 v adapter as far as my research tells me. Btw I just bought one on Reverb preferring it to the 110 volt plug model of yore owing to the fact I live on a sailboat where the ac voltage brings a lot of noise. So I recognized your notes from “Dogs” and “Shine on Ypu Crazy Diamond.” But my favorite Gilmour song is “Mihalis”. which I heard on your Vick’s 73 Ram demo. Thanks for that- it should be arriving on Tuesday!
I compared the Elec lady with my 3 Electric Mistress pedals. The one that sounds closer (model wise) is to the Sovtek/EH Deluxe Electric MIstress Reissue from the 90's. The DLX reissue uses a reticon RD5106 chip . When i compared it to my standard and deluxe electric mistress that runs on the SAD1024 both sounded more "warbling and cloudy" than the eleclady. Also the regenenation (feedback) on the eleclady has more bass than any of the above. It seems that the mix is set a bit stronger on the wet side on the eleclady. In a live situation you won't distinct the difference much and its true bypass allows you to have a better low and high end response which sounds very close to the gilmour sounds on the wall "live". I assume Peter Cornish true bypassed most of gilmour's unit on his pedalboard which would contribute to the clarity and presence on those live records. An eleclady can pretty much nail the tone of the solo on "mother" on the wall live. just add a chorus to the mix and you're all set. VERY GOOD PEDAL for the price if you don't wanna sacrifice your original electric mistress.
Excellent comparison video! I love EHX, but I've often wondered whether it was completely out of necessity to have such large pedals, or if it was more out of tradition. I think this video proves the latter; they sound nearly identical. The size difference is unreal. Is the ElecLady true bypass? If so, this may be the go-to flange pedal for me!
The EHX is probably slightly better in a studio enviroment, for miking up a cab with for example. But the Elec Lady is such a great clone those of us who just want a small board friendly sized copy for live gigs, the little intrinsic differences between the two most people will not notice in a live enviroment, but you will notice the difference in board space and your wallet, which is why i opted for the Mooer. However if i was a heavy flange user, i probably would fork out the additional extra for a real electric mistress. There is no right or wrong answer, for my needs the Mooer is plenty and good value.
I recently unearthed an ehx small stone that had somehow got lost in my spare parts box ! It’s a 72/73 model,and the first thing that hit me was the 3D-ness of the tone, I didn’t stop playing for an hour 😃👍
what are the best settings to run comfortably numb though a big muff rams head and a newer version bk butler tube driver? Is it better to run the sustain of the big muff at like 1 o'clock and use the bk butler as a volume boost or run the big muff at like 50 to 60 percent and use the bk butler overdrive settings?? I also have a 12AU7 for a tube in my bk.
Have you checked out the Mooer Ensemble King Chorus? Some people say that it's very similar to the Boss CE-2. I've seen you using a Boss CE-2 in lots of your videos,so I'd like to hear your opinion about this pedal.
Would you consider comparing the Donner flanger to the Mooer and EHX flangers? I'd be interested to know how close a $30 pedal would get me to the Deluxe Electric Mistress.
Steven Morton I haven't tried it yet but judging by the reviews I've seen it seems to be very close to the Deluxe and the Mooer, with perhaps a bit of the MXR.
I currently have the older full sized Polychorus and I am thinking of getting one of these. It looks like The Electric Mistress doesn't use a light. Am I right? When I bought the Polychorus the guy told me the reason the light doesn't go on and off is because it has bypass. Will I like one of these much more than the Polychorus?
freaksforguitars The Mistress is a flanger so it will sound different to the Polychorus. The current big box Deluxe Mistress sounds very dark and muddy so actually, I recommend the Mooer ElecLady as the best sounding Mistress on the market today.
Thanks for your guidance. I will send you a tone sample I made with Amplitube 3 that sounds quite nice. You are so true, you need to make sure you don't go overboard with any of the effects.
IMHO most modulation pedals are gonna 'tone suck' at least a little; its just the nature of their design and function. All that aside, I think the Eleclady is a very good flanger pedal for its performance/price-point. But its still not a vintage Electric Mistress. Very informative video BTW, thanks for posting.
oh yea, you gotta be crazy, gotta be mean, you gotta get your shoes and your car clean!!! I don't like for shine on, but it goes beautiful with you've got to be crazy version.
pretty good demo cause i can't hear a difference. in a recording mix or live stage situation, would not hear a difference at all. i would go for the mooer cause of the warranty and small footprint.
The DEM is warmer and more "realistic", but given the size difference and the fact I literally can't fit one on my board, I'll grab two ELs and be completely set for flagging.
Joel H I own the Mooer and it's a great pedal. Taking price and form factor into account, it wins. But if I could have the Mooer with the exact sound of the DEM, I would go for that.
HI Bjorn ths for your reply and for a great resource btw, its been useful to me on many, many occasions. I guess it would be more correct for me to say that in my speakers the guitar signal sounds slightly less present or "atop the signal" in the mooer than the alternative, maybe due to discrete voicing differences. I agree the characteristics are surprisingly similar. I guess ultimately if what I hear in my monitors is how the Mooer performs in real life as well it would be more of a feel issue. In some pedals the signal seem a little more immersed in the effect wash, which for anything but ambient stuff I'm not usually so keen on. But yeah its very slight differences, that could be due to a variety of things
The reason they Sound so Different, is because; the EHX is cutting-out some of the Bass ( so in essence ) - you are getting all the top-end shimmer from the Mistress. The Mooer E-Lady is Full Frequency, and not shelving-off the Bass end. I am not saying One is Better then the other. ( as with everything in life ), it is all: Personal Preference. I am currently using the Mooer and I absolutely Love It. No Volume Drop. No Bass Drop. Studio Quiet. I can Duplicate: David Gilmour or Andy Summers.
Yes, that's the case with the early EHX but the Deluxe, well mine anyway, has no low end cut but a slight volume drop. The late 90s version that I have sounds different than the more recent models.
I am telling you. ( I am Extremely Picky and Difficult to please ) and the Mooer is Fantastic. It gets me All the Sounds I could ever want ( or need ) for Gilmour or Andy Summers ( I also use then in conjunction with: a Phenomenal Chorus Pedal & equally Impressive Univibe )
I recently got the Mooer and I can clearly hear a slight volume drop -- especially when the Color control is set low. But this is what the Mistress circuit does, and the Mooer captures the Mistress sound extremely well. I just put a Spark mini booster right after the Mooer and it's perfect. (I also own a semi-functional Hartman flanger)
Mooer actually builds pretty accurate clones. I had the Ensemble King for a while, and it sounds exactly like a CE-2, and better than most CE-2 clones out there. They're using good parts on the circuit boards in these things.
I think the Vintage one has a slightly less top end then the easy lady and that's why I think I prefer the electro-harmonix cuz it cut some of that high and that turns into plinky 2010e crap that just doesn't sound electro-harmonix does not have that real high-end rashes so it sounds really smooth cool
No wonder I have been struggling with the eleclady, didn't realize you leave range on zero. Somehow missed this one where its front and center and clearly visible small knob settings. Thanks 7 years later!!
P that's if you want this Pink Floyd type tone you want to turn the range up for the police
You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking ; )
then after a while....
@@JohnProph you can work on points for style
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile…
@@nkmcfrln you have to be trusted...by the people that you lie to
Close enough for me! Considering no other company's Flangers seem to sound anything like the Mistress sound, and this thing is an incredible bargain!
I like the Mooer Better. On the E.M. - the Bass Drops Out Tremendously. ( no apparent volume drop or tone sucking ). I ordered one today. Great Sounding little Flanger.
Michael Caz : I wish that range sweep would have been opened up a bit more. Per the EHX DEM manual: "The RANGE control allows you to set the lower limit of the sweep. ... Turning the RATE control clockwise lowers the low limit so that the sweep extends further into the bass." A little more control variance in general would have been nice, as there seems to be a big discrepancy in the rate controls, but overall this is a good demo with useful summary at the end. The verdict for me is to hang on to my vintage DEM for recording and intimate small-board local shows, and if needed for a larger-board and or road show, the Mooer e-lady seems perfectly sufficient, compact and board friendly - plus I would care as much if it got broken or stolen :)
I own the eleclady,and gig with it, great little pedal, and for the price, and it doesn't take up that much space on the pedal board, its a winner
Just bough the elec-lady and i can finally dial the right settings! thank you bjorn! :)
Six years ago I bought not one , but two little angels called Mooer Eleclady because of this video. One is still sealed in box , and the other one in in my humble pedalboard and I save the box. The circuit board and components are top notch. You know something ?, this thing have a real old panasonic mn3207, I’m in my fifties, I have almost 40 very old and wonderfully sounding analog pedal. CE1, electric mistress 2 bateries etc. so Belive me ; the chip is not a cheap chinesse falsification. All said; this thing done something no one of the Self Proclaimed “boutique makers” NEVER DONE, a good sonic replica of the holy grail old ehx deluxe and electric mistress. This thing is a gorgeus sounding pedal; ah!, and of course KILLS my Hartman Flanger; -really well made , original panasonic mn3007!, made in USA bla bla, but I hate it!, too trebly sounding. Well done Mooer
Check out the Thorpy FX Camoflange.
@@JohnShalamskas Yeah - that's on another level. Thorpy stuff is tremendous. I love my Fallout Cloud ( and I was an anti-Muff/ Fuzz guy )
That TUBE DRIVER though!!!!!! yoooooo such an underated pedal!
good comments at the end. I bet most people at a gig wouldn't tell the difference. very good effort by mooer.
Big ehx sounds head and shoulders better...but the little mooer is very impressive. I might go that way for the size and price. Thanks Bjorn
Love This playing for years .
Most excellent review of the ElecLady, awesome comparison !!
Tony I have a question which sounds better with the bk butler tube drive..the moore electric lady or the electric mistress deluxe xo ? Thanks
No matter what sound you get out of them there's no denying that EHX pedals are the coolest looking!
just bought one! THe only reason Ive been going without the mistress (the original one or the deluxe) is because of the non-daisy chain power supply and gigantic real estate it takes up on a pedal board. This should fit in nicely! Thanks Bjorn!
Nice demo! Does your deluxe electric mistress have the 9 volt adapter, or the 110 volt wall plug?
I think it’s 12V (Europe).
Sorry it’s actually 24 v adapter as far as my research tells me. Btw I just bought one on Reverb preferring it to the 110 volt plug model of yore owing to the fact I live on a sailboat where the ac voltage brings a lot of noise.
So I recognized your notes from “Dogs” and “Shine on Ypu Crazy Diamond.” But my favorite Gilmour song is “Mihalis”. which I heard on your Vick’s 73 Ram demo. Thanks for that- it should be arriving on Tuesday!
only one guitarists on this video!? Unbelievable! Sounds great!
Thanks! Yeah, I'm working on it... takes a lot of time testing all those pedals :)
I compared the Elec lady with my 3 Electric Mistress pedals. The one that sounds closer (model wise) is to the Sovtek/EH Deluxe Electric MIstress Reissue from the 90's. The DLX reissue uses a reticon RD5106 chip . When i compared it to my standard and deluxe electric mistress that runs on the SAD1024 both sounded more "warbling and cloudy" than the eleclady. Also the regenenation (feedback) on the eleclady has more bass than any of the above. It seems that the mix is set a bit stronger on the wet side on the eleclady. In a live situation you won't distinct the difference much and its true bypass allows you to have a better low and high end response which sounds very close to the gilmour sounds on the wall "live". I assume Peter Cornish true bypassed most of gilmour's unit on his pedalboard which would contribute to the clarity and presence on those live records. An eleclady can pretty much nail the tone of the solo on "mother" on the wall live. just add a chorus to the mix and you're all set. VERY GOOD PEDAL for the price if you don't wanna sacrifice your original electric mistress.
Alvaro, Peter Cornish (from what I read) was not a fan of true bypass and used buffered bypass on all his pedals and board builds.
That makes sense. His g2 pedal is buffered and i have read of his buffer design.
E lady is thicker by it self but the deluxe penetrates in to the delay making it more 3d.
Sounds pretty good. Mooer has some mojo and sounds a little cleaner to me, but the old Lady is still tops.
Excellent comparison video! I love EHX, but I've often wondered whether it was completely out of necessity to have such large pedals, or if it was more out of tradition. I think this video proves the latter; they sound nearly identical. The size difference is unreal. Is the ElecLady true bypass? If so, this may be the go-to flange pedal for me!
The EHX is probably slightly better in a studio enviroment, for miking up a cab with for example. But the Elec Lady is such a great clone those of us who just want a small board friendly sized copy for live gigs, the little intrinsic differences between the two most people will not notice in a live enviroment, but you will notice the difference in board space and your wallet, which is why i opted for the Mooer. However if i was a heavy flange user, i probably would fork out the additional extra for a real electric mistress. There is no right or wrong answer, for my needs the Mooer is plenty and good value.
Great demo thanks for that✌🏼
great work, thanks for the video!
thanks 4 the vid .. i have the Hartman. the DEM sounds great. the Mooer too + size is awesome but the DEM sounds awesome.
Great video! Congratulations!
Does the e-lady sound that replaced the eleclady have exactly the same sound?
Thanks! Yep!
Very instructive demo, thank you !
Cant beat the EM, warm and more 3D like. and wow its does a great Leslie sound!
I recently unearthed an ehx small stone that had somehow got lost in my spare parts box ! It’s a 72/73 model,and the first thing that hit me was the 3D-ness of the tone, I didn’t stop playing for an hour 😃👍
@@allanmunro3893 Awesome mate!
I have the E-Lady and it filters out bass on the guitar quite a lot. Does the Electric Mistress do this?
The old Mistress had a nasty volume drop. The Deluxe still does but not so much. I haven't had any issues with the Mooer.
Got this bad boy on sales, about 30$. If i have to buy it again at full price, I'm all in for sure.
what are the best settings to run comfortably numb though a big muff rams head and a newer version bk butler tube driver? Is it better to run the sustain of the big muff at like 1 o'clock and use the bk butler as a volume boost or run the big muff at like 50 to 60 percent and use the bk butler overdrive settings?? I also have a 12AU7 for a tube in my bk.
Have you checked out the Mooer Ensemble King Chorus?
Some people say that it's very similar to the Boss CE-2. I've seen you using a Boss CE-2 in lots of your videos,so I'd like to hear your opinion about this pedal.
OK, that thing is awsome. I could barely tell a difference, even as I watched you switch between them
Must be the tiniest Flanger on the planet.
Slight high end loss on e-lady, but in a mix I don't think you would hear the difference.
hey there Bjorn! how can I set this pedal to get the wall sounds??
greetings from argentina!
Would you consider comparing the Donner flanger to the Mooer and EHX flangers? I'd be interested to know how close a $30 pedal would get me to the Deluxe Electric Mistress.
Steven Morton I haven't tried it yet but judging by the reviews I've seen it seems to be very close to the Deluxe and the Mooer, with perhaps a bit of the MXR.
gilmourish riis
If you ever get the chance, I'd love to see you make a video with the Donner pedal.
I just ordered one. It came to $40 Canadian. We shall see how good it is.
+Kevin Ryan where did you ordered It ? thanks
They are likely identical in the circuitry.
I currently have the older full sized Polychorus and I am thinking of getting one of these. It looks like The Electric Mistress doesn't use a light. Am I right? When I bought the Polychorus the guy told me the reason the light doesn't go on and off is because it has bypass. Will I like one of these much more than the Polychorus?
freaksforguitars The Mistress is a flanger so it will sound different to the Polychorus. The current big box Deluxe Mistress sounds very dark and muddy so actually, I recommend the Mooer ElecLady as the best sounding Mistress on the market today.
Thanks for your guidance. I will send you a tone sample I made with Amplitube 3 that sounds quite nice. You are so true, you need to make sure you don't go overboard with any of the effects.
that sounds amazing! Great little thing!
Nice demo!
Thanks!
Love my Deluxe mistress I wouldn’t unplug it to save my life
They both sound cool!!! What about price?
The Mooer is like 1/5 of the price of the electric mistress lol
excellent as usual, Bjorn....I think you should update your "recomended effects" thread in the Buyer's gear guide section of your site!
Hi Bjorn What is your opinion of the current Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress XO ? thanks for your advice cheers
I think the Mooer is better.
Thanks! for that shoot out
they sound the same
rowin flanger version its same as mooe Elady?
Yes
Is the new E-lady model the same?
Was is just a naming issue?
I don't know why they changed that but the two sound indentical.
Webgkil Apparently just a name change for legal reasons
I like older women....EHX still the shizz
Close enough for jazz, you couldn't pick them in a mix, good job
IMHO most modulation pedals are gonna 'tone suck' at least a little; its just the nature of their design and function. All that aside, I think the Eleclady is a very good flanger pedal for its performance/price-point. But its still not a vintage Electric Mistress. Very informative video BTW, thanks for posting.
Thanks!
Great comparison :-)
hello!!!
did you noticed some volume drop in the mooer?
same amount of drop as the ehx, if anything the mooer would have less drop
That is correct. Much more ( noticeable ) Volume Drop on the Mistress.
you are missing the best clone..the DONNER - JET Convolution..
it's perfect and not expensive at all...
10/10
But it's identical to the Mooer isn't it? A clone of the clone?
not sure..never tried the mooer..but it's darn cheap.. $40!
oh yea, you gotta be crazy, gotta be mean, you gotta get your shoes and your car clean!!! I don't like for shine on, but it goes beautiful with you've got to be crazy version.
I miss my eleclady... I wanted a mistress before but my wallet didn't agree.
pretty good demo cause i can't hear a difference. in a recording mix or live stage situation, would not hear a difference at all. i would go for the mooer cause of the warranty and small footprint.
Sid Fernandez The're very similar. The Deluxe has a tad warmer tone and a bit more low end.
Yeah, you can hear the difference (the EM sounds better IMO) but the Mooer sounds very very close.
Donner Jet Convolution same as ElecLady?
As far as I know, yes.
Man i wish this review was done before i purchased one. How harsh is it with a muff?
Getting one based on this demo. Sounds so close.
The DEM is warmer and more "realistic", but given the size difference and the fact I literally can't fit one on my board, I'll grab two ELs and be completely set for flagging.
Very similar in clean,buttttt elect lady didn't blend good with drives.but 80 bucks for it,sounds good deal.
Can I tell you an information ??!
sounds good (y)
what about volume drop?
thebetterdad Both has a noticeable drop but the ElecLady has less and with some fine tuning of the controls, it's barely noticeable.
thanks for the answer man. Fro the price, it rocks
Trying hard to get my tc vortex close. Getting near but not there yet 😎.
Ditched the vortex. An eleclady in the chain after a small clone is wonderful.
...and honestly, some of the settings sound better on the EL.
The problem with the elec is it's too open, and it gets emphasised with overdriven signals. The result is exaggerated and unnatural, unlike the EM.
Well, that's why I like it. Matter of taste.
To my ears the Mooer clearly sounds worse. The sweeping is much more obvious and pronounced in the Mooer, the EHX is more subtle and warmer
Either you are splitting hairs or bias towards the more expensive unit.
Joel H I own the Mooer and it's a great pedal. Taking price and form factor into account, it wins. But if I could have the Mooer with the exact sound of the DEM, I would go for that.
That's what the Rate knob is for, goofball. At zero the sweeping completely stops.
Completely agree. The EHX definitely has my vote, but its not a huge difference, imho.
oui et puis bon le prix est pas le même non plus ! la Mooer vaut vraiment le coup pour les petits budgets !
Very little difference if any, to my ears anyway.
Guitar signal is less strong in the mooer
whynottalklikeapirat They sound very similar. The Deluxe has a hint of more low end but otherwise they're more or less identical.
HI Bjorn ths for your reply and for a great resource btw, its been useful to me on many, many occasions.
I guess it would be more correct for me to say that in my speakers the guitar signal sounds slightly less present or "atop the signal" in the mooer than the alternative, maybe due to discrete voicing differences.
I agree the characteristics are surprisingly similar. I guess ultimately if what I hear in my monitors is how the Mooer performs in real life as well it would be more of a feel issue. In some pedals the signal seem a little more immersed in the effect wash, which for anything but ambient stuff I'm not usually so keen on.
But yeah its very slight differences, that could be due to a variety of things
mooer wins \m/
One year effect stopped working. No assistance.
Pretty close to mt ears
the EM seems to have more bottom end.
E-lady sounds better to me.
Flanging*
my mistress is so noisy. both of these seem very quiet.
could be your amp, your power supply, cables, guitar etc etc
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