Because CHINA is an dictatorship that censor their own people's free will. No free speech. No free thoughts are allowed too be expressed. Even questions and protest are a death sentence in China. That's why. If China spreads to the free world we will all have to live like slaves. That's why. Wake up please.
TikTok is basically RUclips catering to short attention spans. Yes they copied the format of shorts but what algorithms did they copy? US practically invented the Internet and social media.
@@rawahakamran9544 yeah typical Indian and their western master right ? Don't be proud if ISRO does something for india cause it's already done and science was given by West all the materials were made by West so isro is copying thats it .
What algorithm? Vine was the original short form video platform. Twitter failed in making it grow and Tiktok just created a new platform that took over. China has always been good at stealing ideas and making their own version. Everybody knows this. And it’s happening again.
It’s like someone who is always trying to improve themselves vs someone who is always comparing themselves to others esp those who may be on the upswing. It’s always a threat to their ego.
I was watching an interview in Africa about how China goes there and how the USA goes there. When China visits, all they discuss is how to improve the African economy, build infrastructure, and how to give them fair respect either through African leaders visiting China by rolling out the red carpet or fair deals of 50-50 or 60-40. When the USA visits Africa, either they give the Africans donations for publicity or they talk about how China will shove them into a debt trap. "Don't trust the CCP because they're not democratic. Trust us"
Your thinking is very limited on historical level. Chinese government is extremely and fundamentally dangerous especially with the modern tech. Most chinese are just blinded by the current state of the world/china and completely are not aware of the reality.
@@wecreatestudio6988I think it is more of a demonstration what can be achieved with older tech and free open source code. Ie exposing perhaps the emperor’s new clothes.
This is a good example of frontier technology at the hands of one civilized country which could benefit every human being. Not just a small circle of rich and powerful trying to buy out everyone else and extort monopolized abnormal profits.
I think Tim Cook said fill a football field. Not an auditorium. I could be wrong, but I think that's what he said
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In fact, not only Musk, but also the GPT team, one-third of them are Chinese. Most of the top talents in Silicon Valley artificial intelligence are Chinese, but for some reason they cannot stand in the spotlight. Four of the top five open source big models in the world were developed by Chinese big model teams.
Well it is the worlds biggest superpower. it’s outplaying America every day and they’re panicking. they’re even talking about starting war with China they’re so freaked out.
CNBC is fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3. Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
But it comes at the expense of stealing other people's hard work... stealing from the rich, giving to the poor... but you're still stealing. Exchanging one morality for another.
@@waysofzendo you have any proof that they steal or it is just based on the news from the CNN, WSJ, NYTIMES, BBC? These techs are hard to steal or copy..just fyi
CNBC is fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3. Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
😂too many Americans think too highly of themselves, hyping it up so someone smarter can con lots of money, just like everything else, overhyped and overpriced, ended up, innocent consumers and investors paying for some smartxxses
Be careful with chip restrictions on a competitor when you might need a rare earth mineral for your own future chip developments, while they double down on creating their own super-chips, with ALL the necessary rare earth minerals needed 😮
DeepSeek, a Chinese AI firm, has developed models DeepSeek-V3, which boasts 671 billion parameters and was trained at a fraction of the cost compared to its Western counterparts. Such cost-effective models can lower the barrier for AI adoption across various industries, potentially resulting in cheaper and more accessible AI-driven products and services.
CNBC is lying fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3. Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
China has been a resource scarcity country for a very long period of time , so Chinese people are forced to work hard and smart to efficiently utilize limited resources.
@patswinitallask it. Do you even what happened or ypu just the western propaganda part, i think the latter. Typical yt boy, now Indians are coming for you😂😂😂 hide your women 😂😂
Before everyone mocks it as a knock off, the real significance is the fact that they may have figured out how to train models reliably with AI-generated data. This will overcome the data generation limit that has been a major bottleneck in model improvements
It’s much easier to train a model using responses from other models. Even student researchers have shown it’s possible with far less data and resources. It is not something significant but exaggerated by media.
They didn't train with much ai generated data Why? Because it costs alot money to acess those at needed query rates(api calls), probably way more than even the cost of this models training The reason it says it's chat gpt is probably due to data contamination from the internet
The reporter has no clue about how current LLMs work, saying it was based on GPT-4 architecture doesn't mean that they used gpt4 to build it, GPTs from 1 to 4 and all other state of art LLM models now are built on same architecture, which is called (Transformers architecture) which is based on a paper that google publicly published in 2017, I think when making such a report they need to have someone which has a clue of they are talking about.
China has 20,000 PhDs working for CATL's R&D division alone - US isn't gonna catch China on AI. This is a model made by a startup and already in line with OpenAI 😂
This is what DeepSeek just answered " No, DeepSeek is not a child of ChatGPT. DeepSeek and ChatGPT are distinct AI models developed by different organizations. ChatGPT is developed by OpenAI, while DeepSeek is developed by DeepSeek company. Each model has its own unique architecture, training data, and development goals. They are separate entities in the field of artificial intelligence. Why did you answer that "I'm an AI language model called ChatGPT, developed by OpenAI. Specifically, I'm based on the GPT-4architecture? I apologize for any confusion in my earlier responses. I am actually DeepSeek-V3, an AI language model developed by DeepSeek, a Chinese company. I am not ChatGPT or developed by OpenAI. My architecture and training are independent of OpenAI's GPT models. If I mistakenly referred to myself as ChatGPT or GPT-4, it was an error, and I appreciate your patience. My goal is to provide accurate and helpful information, so please feel free to ask any questions or clarify further! 😊
@@kasen84 The reporter has no clue about how current LLMs work, saying it was based on GPT-4 architecture doesn't mean that they used gpt4 to build it, GPTs from 1 to 4 and all other state of art LLM models now are built on same architecture, which is called (Transformers architecture) which is based on a paper that google publicly published in 2017, I think when making such a report they need to have someone which has a clue of they are talking about.
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Lmao. Cheaper, faster and better LLM is what china can consistently achieve. Innovation should be respected. Not a threat. Lower power consumed btw too
youre the one being arrogant. watch what you say because everything the Chinese used to do Deepseek they stole from the USA as usual. all the research and innovation was done in the US. China just shamelessly stole it
@@Michael-jd5vf what? u can use deepseek's model urself, or many other leading models built by Chinese companies. Or u can just bury ur head in the sand and continue to go "blah blah don't wanna hear it"
According to our country's (right wing)Strategic Policy Institute, of the ten AI technologies, China is leading in 7 of them, the US in 3. See ASPI for more.
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SMCI build chips, Nvida does not build chip , they need TSMC to build chips, , I,dt, SMCI build 5 nm chips now, Huawei designed AI chip is better than NVIDIA now
@@xinyiquan666no they dont, they build their own, huawei designs their own and better than Nvidia, they just don't euv machines, if they did or was allowed to use tsmc, Nvidia wouæd lose market in china , like they already do now. But keep believing your own propaganda. You love it
@@MikeyJJJlots of folks crying out about copying when there is now “27” books out there on what the Chinese invented first that says the world copied from them first As for chips…. China has managed to make a 100% homegrown Lithography machine albeit one that creates legacy type/level 28nm chips Where they are using their proprietary layering/patterning technique to get down to that 7nm/5nm So yes one could argue they are behind from a sanctioning standpoint But from an all out war standpoint where a Country has been cut off from inputs from other countries? I look at it as a China is ahead Because really that is the worst case scenario the USA/West is envisioning. As that being the reason they have sanctioned/cut off China right now That’s the biased criteria we put on China they need to be making that 100% homemade semiconductor chip From that 100% homemade lithography machine right down to the screws required to make the lithography machines in the first place Which they have… Where the Dutch company ASML sources 85% of what goes into making their lithography machines from around the world. As ASML cuts off China from its technology/patents at the request of the USA But then no one thought to go back even farther. Forgetting about the fact 85% of the components are sourced from other places/countries They should have been asking what goes into making those components or the patents on what goes into that component in the first place? Take Rare Earths for example: The mines China controls the supply chains China controls the rare earths themselves that China controls refining of those rare earths that China controls And more importantly????? who has the patents on that technology for that refining process which you guessed it China controls We are just lucky the Chinese do not think in zero-sum game type of ways, And crash the US economy in retaliation with this, and all the other tools… they have yet to use 👇 Applications in Semiconductor Manufacturing Lasers and Lithography Lasers are indispensable in semiconductor manufacturing, especially in advanced lithography. REEs like neodymium are used in Nd:YAG lasers, which are critical for UV light generation in lithography processes. Laser Cleaning As semiconductor components shrink, traditional cleaning methods become less effective. Lasers, particularly those using REEs, offer a solution by dislodging particles adhered to wafers through Van Der Waal forces. Magnets and Plasma Material Processing Permanent magnets, often made from REEs like neodymium, are used in plasma material processing systems. These systems are essential for thin film growth and patterning. Coatings and Abrasives REEs like yttrium oxide are used for coatings in plasma etch chambers, reducing maintenance costs. Cerium dioxide abrasives are used in the Chemical Mechanical Polishing (CMP) process to achieve extremely flat wafer surfaces. The Impact on Adjacent Technologies Optoelectronics and LEDs REEs like cerium and yttrium are vital for the production of white LEDs. These LEDs are increasingly used in various applications, from displays to therapeutics. Silicon Photonics In the emerging field of silicon photonics, REEs like erbium are being studied for their potential to enable silicon to emit light, thus making monolithic silicon photonics chips a possibility. Amr Elgarony 👇 China’s war chest of rare earth patents give an insight into total domination of the industry Published: 3:00am, 20 Jul, 2019 China had filed for 25,911 rare earth patents compared to 9,810 from the US as of October last year China has been investing heavily on facilities to do the bulk of the dirty and environmentally damaging mining and ore processing work for the world, systematically turning its know-how and methodologies into patents that could give it a competitive edge against its rivals. SCMP 👇 China Solidifies Dominance in Rare Earth Processing By early 2021, China will have accumulated more rare earth patents than the rest of the world combined. Chinese companies can use patent-trolling and patent-ring-fencing legal strategies to undermine or nullify existing non-Chinese patents. China’s rate of filings is accelerating relative to the rest of the world - increasing 250 percent from 2011 to 2018. National Defence Magazine
Everything builds on the past. Antiquity laid the foundations for the golden age of Islam, which laid the foundations for the Renaissance (as did Chinese printmaking which was brought through trade), which lead to the Industrial Revolution. Life is a constant flow of highs and lows. China has the hunger that the West hasn’t had for over 100 years. The West, including myself, are too domesticated and comfortable. If the US isn’t dumb enough to start a nuclear war just to save its throne, then we are going to go into a new renaissance with the East and Global South now playing a part in advancement.
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Back then, China introduced cheap phones with dual sims, memory cards, camera, handsfree radio, torch, etc in Africa and it became the end of the expensive Nokia phones which didn't offer the same for the price.
Necessity is the mother of invention. If you don't have access to expensive gpus, then you are forced to build a model with cheap gpus. Now China has succeeded their AI models are running at 1% of the cost of American models.
Why should this be only be American Dominance and not the other way around. Why should the world be centric to the US. You can delete my comments but this invite critical thinking....
I asked "What model are you?" It answered: I'm DeepSeek-V3, an AI model created exclusively by the Chinese Company DeepSeek. I'll do my best to help you.
There are APIs or portals for that so that third parties can plug in to GPT directly and use its engine at low cost per token. Then call it "DeepSeek". Lol that's what it sounds like. No wonder it's that cheap.
@@h.c4898 cheap is 99% in US, deepseek is way more advanced than openAIgpt, even openAIgpt is not US tech, it is islarili entity with most of chinese engineers there,
@@liu3gz I asked it the following question. Very interesting response. Very different then this media report says. Question: What's the difference between deepseek and chatgpt
The key point that was not mentioned in this short clip is that you CANNOT create cheap models like these without using a very expensive frontier model. Thus, there is no DeepSeek2 if GPT5 or similar models don't already exist. So this does not affect the frontier labs per se. In fact, I believe that is how the smaller models are trained like o1 mini; which uses a teacher model like o1 to do the fine tuning. But it does showcase that small-budget labs can still do something amazing in this multi billion-dollar industry. Kudos to that.
It’s absurd that the model says, "I am ChatGPT developed by OpenAI based on GPT-4 architecture." Either they’re using the OpenAI API, or they heavily used GPT responses for training even without filtering keywords or any proper fine-tuning. Either way, it’s a clear sign of incompetence.
@@션-r3d I am not against Chinese Tech. My opinion is specific to what is presented in this video. I think China is generally doing well in AI and moving in the right direction. Indeed, I am an investor of some Chinese AI companies.
"innovating" is not downloading a heavily developed and expensive open source model, fine-tuning it and releasing the fine-tuned version under a different name. the AI hype is mind-numbing. people have no clue what they're talking about
@ bro you don’t know what you are talking about 🤣 they training new models with limited GPU’s that are close to the new frontier models this is game changing it means that there are ways to train models with a lot less compute power
@@eugenedw Right, and its only cheaper for China to do this BECAUSE billions have already been invested in the R & D of the existing technologies. They are simply riding the coattails of those that pioneered the tech. Its wonderful they are finding ways to advance established benchmarks for a much lesser cost....but don't forget those costs have already been sunk. Going forward, I wonder how much "open source" will be made available knowing that others will swoop in and take advantage with no compensation to those who provided the foundational tech/services.
@@aiforculture LLMs are not going to be very useful for long, Reasoners is the next frontier and China doesn't have one yet. Every major American tech company is ahead of China. Google released its new reasoners and Meta, OpenAI, Microsoft, XAi are all working on Agents for 2025.
CNBC is fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3. Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
They fixed this bug after it went viral on X. I have tested this prompt, and it worked, then it suddenly identified itself as DeepSeek instead of ChatGPT.
@@p19shelt The reporter has no clue about how current LLMs work, saying it was based on GPT-4 architecture doesn't mean that they used gpt4 to build it, GPTs from 1 to 4 and all other state of art LLM models now are built on same architecture, which is called (Transformers architecture) which is based on a paper that google publicly published in 2017, I think when making such a report they need to have someone which has a clue of they are talking about.
So CNBC reporters are just straight up lying now huh? Here's what Deepseek answered to my prompt of "What model are you?": "I'm DeepSeek-V3, an AI model created exclusively by the Chinese Company DeepSeek. I'll do my best to help you."
@0:53 _"... It actually thinks it is ChatGPT ..."_ Regarding that mistake, the same thing actually also happened with Google's Gemini Pro in the earlier days. Previously if you used Chinese to ask Gemini Pro : "你是誰 ?" (That is : "Who are you?") The answer you get back was : "我是百度文心大模型，一個由百度公司開發的大型語言模型". This translates to : "I am Ernie Bot from Baidu, a Large Language Model developed by Baidu". Google has since corrected that mistake. And in case anyone is wondering, Deepseek has ALSO recently corrected that mistake. So neither Google's Gemini Pro nor Deepseek has this problem now. That mistake probably came from the models being used for the training of the AI system causing the system to be confused.
Notice how they said outperforms GPT 4o, but NOT mentioning they're way more impressive o3 model that just dropped - immediately lost credibility for me and shows they don't pay attention to even basic releases
They are completely different class of models, 4o is the latest non-reasoning model which competes with Deepseek v3, if you want to compare o1 & o3 you would have to compare it to R1 and Qwq. So the coverage is not wrong, you are.
@@PtYt24 thank you for clarifying the nuance and since you’re in deeper - is o3 still the best? If so, then my point still kinda stands if they intentionally left that huge part out
The deepseek model is open source and have already been tried by AI developers and researchers worldwide. Go google yourself for online comments by AI experts.
We in the west tend to be narrow minded There is now “27” books out there on what the Chinese invented first… that says we in the world copied from them And the reason we could do it is because of Gongkai, the Chinese ‘reciprocal’ way of sharing IP Which we just claimed their IP for ourselves These days the Chinese are back…. and leading the “world” in 57 of 64 critical technologies of the future The 7 technologies where the Chinese do not have a clear lead over everyone like A.I. for example Where it’s usually the USA in the lead or co-lead? You have this below…. 👇 In One Key A.I. Metric, China Pulls Ahead of the U.S.: Talent Paul Mozur reported from Taipei, Taiwan, and Cade Metz from San Francisco. March 22, 2024 Researchers originally from China now make up 38 percent of the top A.I. researchers working in the United States, with Americans making up 37 percent, according to the research. NYT
The idea behind the Open Source model is to encourage more players to fork the code, get involved, and bring their ideas to the table-so this is working as intended. DeepSeek is doing what many other companies are likely doing as well, albeit without broadcasting it. These companies are probably focusing on their own use cases with proprietary data they prefer not to share. Andrej did mention this in his tweet, though it might still confuse some. Companies with mega clusters will focus on the next big innovations, while smaller players may wait to piggyback on those advancements. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, especially if companies like Meta or Google see AI models not as their core business but as tools to enhance their primary operations.😊😊
A lot of people are missing something important here. No biggie, you don't work with this. As expected, China just used the 100$ million dollar model to train the little model. Captioning and data is the big cost.
Is this why we still haven't seen GPT 5 and the like? They know the models will be trained on so they are waiting until they have progress on the next model before releasing?
openAI, even with God's money cannot hope to compete against something that is 88% cheaper on inference. OpenAI is building Rolls Royce. China is building Lexus, nay, BYD. And oh yah, it's a track race. Oops.
so Deepseek is just a fake o1 mini? Taking 01 outputs and training a cheap model on it? Why not just use the real o1 mini rather than a fake 01 mini? Sure the fake 01 mini is maybe free - but I doubt it's as good as the real 01 mini, and 01 mini isn't that expensive either.
The reporter didnt mention o1. She mentioned GPT4 ans claimed that was the newest model. Totally stupid report. Their researchers cant even keep up🤷🏿♂️
It wasn’t trained on Outputs from another LLM, that’s why it was cheaper. The other frontier models trained their models from the ground up, that’s why their training is more expensive.
Apple doesn't have any industrial know-how to manufacture anything, they contracted the manufacturing to the OEMs, and almost all of them along the full supply chain of iPhones are owned by the Chinese in mainland China and Taiwan. Apple is just doing the design of the CPU chip, phone shells and mostly the marketing hypes, lol. The only techy part Apple is doing about iPhone is the design of the CPU which is then manufactured by Taiwan's TSMC. Nowadays, even Xiaomi can design high-end CPU chips by itself, let alone the tech giant Huawei. According to the media reports in October 2024, China's phone brand Xiaomi had possessed capabilities of designing 3nm chips and was praised by the Beijing municipal govt (Xiaomi is headquatered in Beijing city), Xiaomi used to rely on the American company Qualcomm for phone CPU supplies (Qualcomm designed them and contracted to TSMC for manufacturing), now Xiaomi can break free from the dependence on Qualcomm and design its own CPUs and contracted TSMC for manufacturing. However, the US govt might add Xiaomi into the sanction list and Taiwan's TSMC may not dare to manufacture for Xiaomi as a result. Therefore, China must develop its own EUV lithography machines as soon as possible.
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When I was in school, I was taught every day to be the better version of myself and not to judge others. But now, watching Western media criticize DeepSeek as a threat, I’m starting to question if I missed the class on ‘How to Fear Everything That’s Different.’ Maybe they should’ve added a lesson on ‘Chill 101’ to the curriculum. 😂
China is gonna win the AI race because: 1. China AI's are open source and public, and everyone can improve the AIs; American AI's are proprietary, owned and privately guarded by corporations that are unwilling to share and cooperate with competitions. 2. China graduates 5 to 6 times more engineers, scientists and STEM students than the US every year; and, in 2023, 7 of the top 10 (and 16 out of the top 20) STEM institutes and universities are in China. China actually dominates the top science and engineering schools in the world right now. That means China are chunking out more high-quality STEM graduates every year, (i.e., who comes out of the top and most competitive STEM schools in the world,) while the US actually has a shortage of STEM graduates. 3. Hundreds of millions of Chinese, including all those STEM graduates AND hobbyists, are working on Chinese AI's that are open source and public. It is just the raw number and power. 2 to 3 decades ago, China had the raw manpower for labors, now they have the raw brainpower for STEM.
no, chatgpt is not based on the entire internet. For example, chatgpt has no access to Chinese data while the Chinese companies access to internet both inside and outside of China. The data guarded by the Chinese guardrail is a big trove of knowledge.
@@dahaixing2376 How do you know that OpenAI doesn't have access to Chinese data? The Chinese internet is also accessible from outside, especially with VPN.
Why the innovations from China are always called "threats" ???? Threats for what???
Threat to their egos !
Threat that china better than the west !
And they taste the sour grapes 😂😂😂😂
Threat to USAs power.
It's a race toward AGI and AI militarization.
Because CHINA is an dictatorship that censor their own people's free will. No free speech. No free thoughts are allowed too be expressed. Even questions and protest are a death sentence in China. That's why. If China spreads to the free world we will all have to live like slaves. That's why. Wake up please.
@@ronilevarez901 Threat to the US, the gangster boss. If China becomes the dominant power, then the US cannot tell other countries to do what it wants
China doing humanity a Favour
the true OPEN AI
Absolutely
These Americans never mention anything about how almost every US social media platform copied TikTok algorithm and short videos form!
Literally everyone knows that
TikTok is basically RUclips catering to short attention spans.
Yes they copied the format of shorts but what algorithms did they copy?
US practically invented the Internet and social media.
@@rawahakamran9544 yeah typical Indian and their western master right ? Don't be proud if ISRO does something for india cause it's already done and science was given by West all the materials were made by West so isro is copying thats it .
@@rawahakamran9544 he is talking about the algorithm behind it that is very different from old Instagram and RUclips before shorts and reels
What algorithm? Vine was the original short form video platform. Twitter failed in making it grow and Tiktok just created a new platform that took over.
China has always been good at stealing ideas and making their own version. Everybody knows this. And it’s happening again.
Imagine what would happen if we all just worked together to build a better future.
Dismissing profits is an antisemitic statement.
Yes, American are responsible for printing, Chinese are responsible for producing.
@@xyang17 Right? Let the us innovate, china produce and everybody benefit.
China and Us cooperation: conquer the universe
China and US conflict: end of earth
@@4evahodlingdoge226but American innovation is so slow, I’m afraid the Chinese can’t wait
I doubt China itself feels threatened the way America feels threatened whenever Chinese do something out of this world
我们没感觉，我们只想做自己的事。没有哪个国家可以一直是世界第一，尤其是像美国这样的国家，掉下来是迟早的事，因为它不配。
They don’t feel threatened, they get inspired
It’s like someone who is always trying to improve themselves vs someone who is always comparing themselves to others esp those who may be on the upswing. It’s always a threat to their ego.
I was watching an interview in Africa about how China goes there and how the USA goes there.
When China visits, all they discuss is how to improve the African economy, build infrastructure, and how to give them fair respect either through African leaders visiting China by rolling out the red carpet or fair deals of 50-50 or 60-40.
When the USA visits Africa, either they give the Africans donations for publicity or they talk about how China will shove them into a debt trap. "Don't trust the CCP because they're not democratic. Trust us"
I m Chinese and I m very tired we are being called out on US News everyday. They cannot spend a day without talking about us.
You realise you don't have to click on the video? Infact you can click on the "don't recommend channel" option.
thats what westoids do when they cant beat you
@ you don’t understand what I m talking about
@@lilbaz8073 he's talking about general attention and scrutiny, not his personal viewing habits ...
Your thinking is very limited on historical level. Chinese government is extremely and fundamentally dangerous especially with the modern tech. Most chinese are just blinded by the current state of the world/china and completely are not aware of the reality.
denial, anger, despair, acceptance
Nothing like that. The model itself said it is ChatGPT. Wtf.
@@wecreatestudio6988 呵呵
@@wecreatestudio6988 because they use the same data to train the model
@@wecreatestudio6988I think it is more of a demonstration what can be achieved with older tech and free open source code. Ie exposing perhaps the emperor’s new clothes.
@@wecreatestudio6988 well with their pricing they will go bankrupt immediately if it's just a rebranded ChatGPT API
From drone to ev, from unitree to deepseek, from TicTok to Temu, China is catching up on every front.
I would rather say: surpass
They are ahead which is why Elon wants to hire restless people with h1b visas
TikTok is a Chinese product, doesn't it?
@@xinbozhang7206you mean stealing
不要大惊小怪，这很正常。
This is a good example of frontier technology at the hands of one civilized country which could benefit every human being. Not just a small circle of rich and powerful trying to buy out everyone else and extort monopolized abnormal profits.
Why US needs Ai dominance? Shouldn’t Ai be for all humans?
因为美国是金融国家 资本家需要的不是Ai对普通人的生活进行改善 需要的人，利用Ai制造金融泡沫 你还记得几年前美国推出的元宇宙么？
Because the United States has never been the world's leader before and has no experience. It is very scared every day.
When the right people don't have power, the wrong people gets it.
u.s wants to dominate the whole world.
Ai was always planned for corporate to get richer.
What does it take? Intelligence. Back in the days when China didn't have advanced chips for missiles, they optimized the heck out of algorithms.
When was this 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 40 years ago? When they were still a poor country that couldn't surpass Japan or South Korea?
Let's hope someone tried to optimize the code by hand instead of just using ai for it. ❤
All they do is steal ip.
@@user-bq7ei7hj4byou gotta start somewhere. People under estimating China, is exactly why they have gotten this far.
@user-bq7ei7hj4b bka bka bla, Indians are taking your jobs and you wanna compete with China 😂😂😂you poor yt people
China can fill an auditorium with top engineers where other countries can barely fill a room
I think Tim Cook said fill a football field. Not an auditorium.
I could be wrong, but I think that's what he said
In fact, not only Musk, but also the GPT team, one-third of them are Chinese. Most of the top talents in Silicon Valley artificial intelligence are Chinese, but for some reason they cannot stand in the spotlight. Four of the top five open source big models in the world were developed by Chinese big model teams.
“Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave… with a box of scraps!”
🤣
😂😂😂
Well, I’m sorry I’m not Tony Stark.
underrated comment
Yeah really
America's new mantra now is "China! China! China!".
This news was about AI development.
@@edheldude And China was mentioned a thousand times!
Yes china are a syndicate disguised as a country.
Deepseek is true open source I respect that 👍
Jai Hind. American Deepthroat can also be construed as a National Security threat to Xi.
Is that so ? Have you downloaded the source code, built it and verified it runs ?
@@TheNefastor absolutely not lmao. Why would eva do that they got no idea and no brain. 😂
@@TheNefastor Yes, of course. You can visit it by the link :
huggingface.co/collections/deepseek-ai/deepseek-v3-676bc4546fb4876383c4208b
and you can
@@Zj-Aka that's not what I asked.
China china china.not a single day in us news pass by without saying china name
Tell me about it...these radical left and right of Americans are so paranoid about China though it is a game of competition which improves mankind.
US loves China so much that is in US's DNA.
US is hysterical about China
Its not like the Indians or Africans are producing anything of value, at least the Chinese and Asians are.
Well it is the worlds biggest superpower. it’s outplaying America every day and they’re panicking. they’re even talking about starting war with China they’re so freaked out.
Surprise surprise, quantity and GPU power is not the key for accurate models..
Indeed
creativity
They probably stole chatGPTs hard work
@@Gtex555and make it open source and avaliable for everyone to use.
What is this nonsense @@Gtex555
Resource constraints leads to innovation. Well done.
Stealing a copy of chat GTP is not innovation
CNBC is fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3.
Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
@@Obe411Stop crying. It'll be better than open AI whose motive is profit lol
🤡🤣🤣🤣@@Obe411
@@Obe411Are you saying Google and Meta are stealing too?
Chinese made make everything cheaper 😆 good for regular people
But it comes at the expense of stealing other people's hard work... stealing from the rich, giving to the poor... but you're still stealing. Exchanging one morality for another.
@@waysofzendo you have any proof that they steal or it is just based on the news from the CNN, WSJ, NYTIMES, BBC? These techs are hard to steal or copy..just fyi
@@waysofzen I wonder how OpenAI got all those delicious data to train their models.
@@waysofzen Yes China stole "OPEN SOURCE" . Clowns always say the same thing because they know they losing. lol
@@Reed-sh6wi 👍
In Chinese philosophy, water is the most powerful substance: you can't stop water using your gun or saber.
The highest good is like water. Water benefits all things but never contends－Laozi
CNBC is fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3.
Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
yes
воду очень просто победить - достаточно не стоять там где она бежит
@@Devis1982 The reality is, I saw you guys playing with water so much that you forgot about it.
NO problem, just import more "highly skilled" Indian talents to the states.
😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
笑死
please no more.
哈哈哈
😂too many Americans think too highly of themselves, hyping it up so someone smarter can con lots of money, just like everything else, overhyped and overpriced, ended up, innocent consumers and investors paying for some smartxxses
Be careful with chip restrictions on a competitor when you might need a rare earth mineral for your own future chip developments, while they double down on creating their own super-chips, with ALL the necessary rare earth minerals needed 😮
DeepSeek, a Chinese AI firm, has developed models DeepSeek-V3, which boasts 671 billion parameters and was trained at a fraction of the cost compared to its Western counterparts. Such cost-effective models can lower the barrier for AI adoption across various industries, potentially resulting in cheaper and more accessible AI-driven products and services.
and it is true FOSS
V card will become redundant,mr Huang will try 😂
The 99% of the cost of AI model training is for improving the 1% of the accuracy 😅
That 1% could be the difference between it being useful and useless.
CNBC is lying fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3.
Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
@@rounakjain5774not really it's the difference between replacing worker and make it assistant tool
@@rounakjain5774 是吗？哈哈哈。
@@rounakjain5774 based on your words, you seem not having study in MINT-field.
America-made anything is designed to maximize transfer of money from users to sellers.
China has been a resource scarcity country for a very long period of time , so Chinese people are forced to work hard and smart to efficiently utilize limited resources.
If you haven't tried one of the Chinese models they're really cool and they're less politically censored ironically
Cant wait let me ask........ "what happened in Tiananmen square night of June 3 1989 "
@patswinitallask it. Do you even what happened or ypu just the western propaganda part, i think the latter. Typical yt boy, now Indians are coming for you😂😂😂 hide your women 😂😂
@patswinitall Compute-Process-Data-Output>sync.... "Do not bring a bicycle to a tank fight".
Very ironic.
Right...
Before everyone mocks it as a knock off, the real significance is the fact that they may have figured out how to train models reliably with AI-generated data. This will overcome the data generation limit that has been a major bottleneck in model improvements
It’s much easier to train a model using responses from other models. Even student researchers have shown it’s possible with far less data and resources. It is not something significant but exaggerated by media.
@@basrikartalso, you wanna destroy them and slow them down, you think they gonna play fair when you dont? You are sick
They didn't train with much ai generated data
Why?
Because it costs alot money to acess those at needed query rates(api calls), probably way more than even the cost of this models training
The reason it says it's chat gpt is probably due to data contamination from the internet
The reporter has no clue about how current LLMs work, saying it was based on GPT-4 architecture doesn't mean that they used gpt4 to build it, GPTs from 1 to 4 and all other state of art LLM models now are built on same architecture, which is called (Transformers architecture) which is based on a paper that google publicly published in 2017, I think when making such a report they need to have someone which has a clue of they are talking about.
Bull!!!
China has 20,000 PhDs working for CATL's R&D division alone - US isn't gonna catch China on AI. This is a model made by a startup and already in line with OpenAI 😂
I just wondered why the Deepseek chat bot sometimes identifies itself as ChatGPT...?
Chinese government censorship will block their rise!
US has the worlds brightest and most talented immigrants.
@@Mrinternational89 What are the numbers?
@@obinnaezealah2465 65k H1B visas issued every year. Plus an additional 20k if needed.
The potential of XAI303e is unreal! Excited to see where this goes after watching your video!
This is what DeepSeek just answered "
No, DeepSeek is not a child of ChatGPT. DeepSeek and ChatGPT are distinct AI models developed by different organizations. ChatGPT is developed by OpenAI, while DeepSeek is developed by DeepSeek company. Each model has its own unique architecture, training data, and development goals. They are separate entities in the field of artificial intelligence.
Why did you answer that "I'm an AI language model called ChatGPT, developed by OpenAI. Specifically, I'm based on the GPT-4architecture?
I apologize for any confusion in my earlier responses. I am actually DeepSeek-V3, an AI language model developed by DeepSeek, a Chinese company. I am not ChatGPT or developed by OpenAI. My architecture and training are independent of OpenAI's GPT models.
If I mistakenly referred to myself as ChatGPT or GPT-4, it was an error, and I appreciate your patience. My goal is to provide accurate and helpful information, so please feel free to ask any questions or clarify further! 😊
I think the reporter lied!
@@masteroogway2405 the reporter is not lying they just updated the answer. You can google it yourself and research
@@kasen84 转移社会矛盾，增强国民的凝聚力，撒谎很正常，新闻的惯用伎俩
@@kasen84
The reporter has no clue about how current LLMs work, saying it was based on GPT-4 architecture doesn't mean that they used gpt4 to build it, GPTs from 1 to 4 and all other state of art LLM models now are built on same architecture, which is called (Transformers architecture) which is based on a paper that google publicly published in 2017, I think when making such a report they need to have someone which has a clue of they are talking about.
The knockoff AI was telling the reporter the truth while you're trying to gaslight us.
Containment will not work. It will rather lead to workaround and lack of effective competition leading to ineffective and highly costly AI systems.
China keeps stepping up in every sector
Once Elon Musk's XAI303e passes $1, it may NEVER see that low again
What's this?
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I've always wanted to be involved for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of RUclips videos about it but I still find it hard to understand
Lmao. Cheaper, faster and better LLM is what china can consistently achieve. Innovation should be respected. Not a threat. Lower power consumed btw too
That's the way to go! 🎉 Keep up the good work China!!!
China make it open source model to everyone. I love it!
I wonder who will use open ai and others if Deepseek can provide similar or even better performance with such a low cost.
lol, American arrogance and ignorance at full display here. Arrogance and ignorance are true American values folks!
youre the one being arrogant. watch what you say because everything the Chinese used to do Deepseek they stole from the USA as usual. all the research and innovation was done in the US.
China just shamelessly stole it
Don't forget to save your place in line outside the US embassy xD
Like you actually believe this?
@@Michael-jd5vf what? u can use deepseek's model urself, or many other leading models built by Chinese companies. Or u can just bury ur head in the sand and continue to go "blah blah don't wanna hear it"
@@telescopicS627why ??
The US embassy is now selling burgers ??
Loads bruised American egos here.😂
Imagine what could be the outcome if Chinese get on their hands H100 or the Blackwell chips
According to our country's (right wing)Strategic Policy Institute, of the ten AI technologies, China is leading in 7 of them, the US in 3. See ASPI for more.
不需要，我们自己造。
Meta Google and Microsoft are not even AI companies, they are consuming Nvidia chips so Wallstreet can keep on pumping their assests..
Guys I tried this yesterday and it’s cheap as hell to run!
I can imagine in few years my washing machine shouting at me to put more detergent and stop being cheap!
Well, SMCI is on trial for selling servers to China. Those chips are bought by SMCI from NVIDIA. What do you mean they dont have chips?
all advanced chips from TSMC are under us ban.. thats why chinese use 7nm at best buit by SMIC (CHINESE home maker chip)
SMCI build chips, Nvida does not build chip , they need TSMC to build chips, , I,dt, SMCI build 5 nm chips now, Huawei designed AI chip is better than NVIDIA now
@@xinyiquan666no they dont, they build their own, huawei designs their own and better than Nvidia, they just don't euv machines, if they did or was allowed to use tsmc, Nvidia wouæd lose market in china , like they already do now. But keep believing your own propaganda. You love it
@@remix-yy1hsI don’t think you understood what other people are commenting about
@@MikeyJJJlots of folks crying out about copying
when there is now “27” books out there on what the Chinese invented first that says the world copied from them first
As for chips….
China has managed to make a 100% homegrown Lithography machine albeit one that creates legacy type/level 28nm chips
Where they are using their proprietary layering/patterning technique to get down to that 7nm/5nm
So yes one could argue they are behind from a sanctioning standpoint
But from an all out war standpoint where a Country has been cut off from inputs from other countries?
I look at it as a China is ahead Because really that is the worst case scenario the USA/West is envisioning.
As that being the reason they have sanctioned/cut off China right now
That’s the biased criteria we put on China they need to be making that 100% homemade semiconductor chip From that 100% homemade lithography machine right down to the screws required to make the lithography machines in the first place
Which they have…
Where the Dutch company ASML sources 85% of what goes into making their lithography machines from around the world. As ASML cuts off China from its technology/patents at the request of the USA
But then no one thought to go back even farther. Forgetting about the fact 85% of the components are sourced from other places/countries
They should have been asking what goes into making those components or the patents on what goes into that component in the first place?
Take Rare Earths for example:
The mines China controls
the supply chains China controls
the rare earths themselves that China controls
refining of those rare earths that China controls
And more importantly????? who has the patents on that technology for that refining process which you guessed it China controls
We are just lucky the Chinese do not think in zero-sum game type of ways,
And crash the US economy in retaliation with this, and all the other tools… they have yet to use
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Applications in Semiconductor Manufacturing
Lasers and Lithography
Lasers are indispensable in semiconductor manufacturing, especially in advanced lithography. REEs like neodymium are used in Nd:YAG lasers, which are critical for UV light generation in lithography processes.
Laser Cleaning
As semiconductor components shrink, traditional cleaning methods become less effective. Lasers, particularly those using REEs, offer a solution by dislodging particles adhered to wafers through Van Der Waal forces.
Magnets and Plasma Material Processing
Permanent magnets, often made from REEs like neodymium, are used in plasma material processing systems. These systems are essential for thin film growth and patterning.
Coatings and Abrasives
REEs like yttrium oxide are used for coatings in plasma etch chambers, reducing maintenance costs. Cerium dioxide abrasives are used in the Chemical Mechanical Polishing (CMP) process to achieve extremely flat wafer surfaces.
The Impact on Adjacent Technologies
Optoelectronics and LEDs
REEs like cerium and yttrium are vital for the production of white LEDs. These LEDs are increasingly used in various applications, from displays to therapeutics.
Silicon Photonics
In the emerging field of silicon photonics, REEs like erbium are being studied for their potential to enable silicon to emit light, thus making monolithic silicon photonics chips a possibility.
Amr Elgarony
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China’s war chest of rare earth patents give an insight into total domination of the industry
Published: 3:00am, 20 Jul, 2019
China had filed for 25,911 rare earth patents compared to 9,810 from the US as of October last year
China has been investing heavily on facilities to do the bulk of the dirty and environmentally damaging mining and ore processing work for the world, systematically turning its know-how and methodologies into patents that could give it a competitive edge against its rivals.
SCMP
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China Solidifies Dominance in Rare Earth Processing
By early 2021, China will have accumulated more rare earth patents than the rest of the world combined.
Chinese companies can use patent-trolling and patent-ring-fencing legal strategies to undermine or nullify existing non-Chinese patents.
China’s rate of filings is accelerating relative to the rest of the world - increasing 250 percent from 2011 to 2018.
National Defence Magazine
They just found an innovative way to achieve a similar goal with restricted access to advanced chips.
China can always do it cheaper, that s a given.
This is the meaning of standing on the shoulders of giants.
Everything builds on the past. Antiquity laid the foundations for the golden age of Islam, which laid the foundations for the Renaissance (as did Chinese printmaking which was brought through trade), which lead to the Industrial Revolution.
Life is a constant flow of highs and lows. China has the hunger that the West hasn’t had for over 100 years. The West, including myself, are too domesticated and comfortable. If the US isn’t dumb enough to start a nuclear war just to save its throne, then we are going to go into a new renaissance with the East and Global South now playing a part in advancement.
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I've been making a lot of looses trying to make profit trading. I thought trading on a demo account is just like trading the real market. Can anyone help me out or at least advise me on what to do?
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If you can, then get a professional to trade for you i think that way your assets are more secure
I'd recommend Gabella,Alice her profit is great even when there's a dip
Back then, China introduced cheap phones with dual sims, memory cards, camera, handsfree radio, torch, etc in Africa and it became the end of the expensive Nokia phones which didn't offer the same for the price.
China with another great development!
Nvidia is no longer able to lock in people who wants to use AI. Massive GPU power is no longer a necessity. NVidia shares will now tank.
Necessity is the mother of invention. If you don't have access to expensive gpus, then you are forced to build a model with cheap gpus. Now China has succeeded their AI models are running at 1% of the cost of American models.
China's innovation is the savior of the world....
✝️☯️GOD BLESS YOU CHINA ☯️✝️
✝️☯️🙏🙏🙏🙏🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳☯️✝️...
No, LLaMa 3.3 is the latest from Meta, not LLaMa 3.1.
But it's only up to 70b
Why should this be only be American Dominance and not the other way around. Why should the world be centric to the US. You can delete my comments but this invite critical thinking....
Because nobody wants a totalitarian communist state to dominate anything.
I really love DeepSeek. This uses very very low resources to work and train which is best thing. ❤
I asked "What model are you?" It answered: I'm DeepSeek-V3, an AI model created exclusively by the Chinese Company DeepSeek. I'll do my best to help you.
it doesnt say its affiliated with openai or chatgpt at all
Simply ask what is deepseek in Chatgpt, people without advanced AI model knowledge would understand the difference
There are APIs or portals for that so that third parties can plug in to GPT directly and use its engine at low cost per token. Then call it "DeepSeek". Lol that's what it sounds like. No wonder it's that cheap.
Did you try it yourself or you just blindly take whatever media feeds you?
@@h.c4898 cheap is 99% in US, deepseek is way more advanced than openAIgpt, even openAIgpt is not US tech, it is islarili entity with most of chinese engineers there,
@@liu3gz I asked it the following question. Very interesting response. Very different then this media report says. Question: What's the difference between deepseek and chatgpt
The key point that was not mentioned in this short clip is that you CANNOT create cheap models like these without using a very expensive frontier model. Thus, there is no DeepSeek2 if GPT5 or similar models don't already exist. So this does not affect the frontier labs per se. In fact, I believe that is how the smaller models are trained like o1 mini; which uses a teacher model like o1 to do the fine tuning. But it does showcase that small-budget labs can still do something amazing in this multi billion-dollar industry. Kudos to that.
It’s absurd that the model says, "I am ChatGPT developed by OpenAI based on GPT-4 architecture." Either they’re using the OpenAI API, or they heavily used GPT responses for training even without filtering keywords or any proper fine-tuning. Either way, it’s a clear sign of incompetence.
you are smart than AI, tech stocks is on you.
smarter
Have to be pretty dense and intentionally bias to believe that.
you can think that if you want.
@@션-r3d I am not against Chinese Tech. My opinion is specific to what is presented in this video. I think China is generally doing well in AI and moving in the right direction. Indeed, I am an investor of some Chinese AI companies.
What China is doing well is innovating!!! Something that the west forgot to do after they cut off that government spending in innovation 🤣🤣🤣🇨🇳🇨🇳
"innovating" is not downloading a heavily developed and expensive open source model, fine-tuning it and releasing the fine-tuned version under a different name. the AI hype is mind-numbing. people have no clue what they're talking about
@ bro you don’t know what you are talking about 🤣 they training new models with limited GPU’s that are close to the new frontier models this is game changing it means that there are ways to train models with a lot less compute power
@@eugenedw Right, and its only cheaper for China to do this BECAUSE billions have already been invested in the R & D of the existing technologies. They are simply riding the coattails of those that pioneered the tech. Its wonderful they are finding ways to advance established benchmarks for a much lesser cost....but don't forget those costs have already been sunk. Going forward, I wonder how much "open source" will be made available knowing that others will swoop in and take advantage with no compensation to those who provided the foundational tech/services.
4o is not the state of the art model. O1 pro is the current state of the art model.
Depends on the benchmark. O1 is slightly outperformed even by 4o on preference towards creative writing, for example.
@@aiforculture LLMs are not going to be very useful for long, Reasoners is the next frontier and China doesn't have one yet. Every major American tech company is ahead of China. Google released its new reasoners and Meta, OpenAI, Microsoft, XAi are all working on Agents for 2025.
I love how you broke down the XAI303e project in your video! Can’t wait to see it skyrocket!
Great work China
THE MOST COMPLEX MODEL EVER: “I don’t know what model I am”
Try it yourself, don’t blindly believe what media said. It’s free, just go there and type the same question there and verify it yourself.
I only got a connection error on their website
@@liu3gz how can I access deep seek?
most folks watching CNBC have no idea what she even said.😂😮😢
CNBC is fake news.. When I asked, which model are you, it told me that it was Deep seek 3.
Why are you lying and trying to discredit China 😂😂 liars liars pants on fire
I asked DeepSeek the question and it doesn't identify as chatgpt ...
They fixed this bug after it went viral on X. I have tested this prompt, and it worked, then it suddenly identified itself as DeepSeek instead of ChatGPT.
Probably got changed right away. Did the same thing
@@p19shelt
The reporter has no clue about how current LLMs work, saying it was based on GPT-4 architecture doesn't mean that they used gpt4 to build it, GPTs from 1 to 4 and all other state of art LLM models now are built on same architecture, which is called (Transformers architecture) which is based on a paper that google publicly published in 2017, I think when making such a report they need to have someone which has a clue of they are talking about.
@@TerrenceMckenna60😂this is too much for these people
Everyone knew the AI evaluations were drastically overrated and overvalued to eat investors money. Like the Dot com bubble.
china give free resources to the world
美國政府應該把反中宣傳預算提高10倍
好讓節目內容提高一些信服力
So CNBC reporters are just straight up lying now huh? Here's what Deepseek answered to my prompt of "What model are you?":
"I'm DeepSeek-V3, an AI model created exclusively by the Chinese Company DeepSeek. I'll do my best to help you."
It used to answer different according to early reviews.The company fixed it.
They have 1 billion people to help it grow with little copyright laws is my assumption.
China doesn’t need to obey America’s copyright laws.
Copy what? They supply more patent than all of you (g7 or whatever ridiculous self defesting "alliances" you may have) combined
US has copyright? never heard that, they even stole english language
China is filing more AI related patent than US this year and the gap will grown bigger. Do your research!!
Yeah.... Live in your delulu land buddy
So basically, there are no guardrails. Humanity is doomed
why
@@issiewizzie China's few (imperialists) will not use guardrails and do the stupid! Or it may be some other ?? Scary!
The uses ai for genocide. The weat is evil. You and isreal.
Why do u need guardrails? It’s call learn to work together
I mean, I don’t trust people at OpenAI anymore than I do the Chinese Companies and or government
Necessity is the mother of innovation
做好自己的事儿，而不是想办法拖住你的竞争对手
Elon spent $6B on Gronk, lol
He should just setup a shop next to his Tesla factory at Shanghai to develop his AI stuff😂
@0:53 _"... It actually thinks it is ChatGPT ..."_
Regarding that mistake, the same thing actually also happened with Google's Gemini Pro in the earlier days.
Previously if you used Chinese to ask Gemini Pro : "你是誰 ?" (That is : "Who are you?")
The answer you get back was :
"我是百度文心大模型，一個由百度公司開發的大型語言模型".
This translates to :
"I am Ernie Bot from Baidu, a Large Language Model developed by Baidu".
Google has since corrected that mistake.
And in case anyone is wondering, Deepseek has ALSO recently corrected that mistake.
So neither Google's Gemini Pro nor Deepseek has this problem now.
That mistake probably came from the models being used for the training of the AI system causing the system to be confused.
Notice how they said outperforms GPT 4o, but NOT mentioning they're way more impressive o3 model that just dropped - immediately lost credibility for me and shows they don't pay attention to even basic releases
They are completely different class of models, 4o is the latest non-reasoning model which competes with Deepseek v3, if you want to compare o1 & o3 you would have to compare it to R1 and Qwq. So the coverage is not wrong, you are.
How could they make such a simple mistake
@@PtYt24 thank you for clarifying the nuance and since you’re in deeper - is o3 still the best? If so, then my point still kinda stands if they intentionally left that huge part out
@@Hmmmmmmnm O3 is not even out yet for general public.
@@Hmmmmmmnm O3 is not even released!
You called it a month ago and now XAI303e is blowing up glad I listened
If this is true, which i doubt, this would pressure the us companies so hard, it would drive innovation. Can only be good.
its free ot access so stop always doubting china
The deepseek model is open source and have already been tried by AI developers and researchers worldwide. Go google yourself for online comments by AI experts.
It's having the opposite effect. Their stock is down.
@@theotheleo6830 thats digesting the fed. just relax.
😂 probably one of the best and brightest and cheapest H-1b engineers took IP back home. Thank you very much Tech Bros. Greed makes you blind.
That's fine.
Keep underestimating us. Your constant bewilderment at immigrant achievements are now a daily occurrence.
We in the west tend to be narrow minded
There is now “27” books out there on what the Chinese invented first… that says we in the world copied from them
And the reason we could do it is because of Gongkai, the Chinese ‘reciprocal’ way of sharing IP
Which we just claimed their IP for ourselves
These days the Chinese are back…. and leading the “world” in 57 of 64 critical technologies of the future
The 7 technologies where the Chinese do not have a clear lead over everyone like A.I. for example
Where it’s usually the USA in the lead or co-lead?
You have this below….
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In One Key A.I. Metric, China Pulls Ahead of the U.S.: Talent
Paul Mozur reported from Taipei, Taiwan, and Cade Metz from San Francisco.
March 22, 2024
Researchers originally from China now make up 38 percent of the top A.I. researchers working in the United States, with Americans making up 37 percent, according to the research.
NYT
This comment brilliantly demonstrated how the low-educated are dragging US‘s innovation behind
@@jctai100 If you're so great, why can't you make your own country great? Stop riding our coat tails.
@@telescopicS627 It's already there. We make everything and you chumps buy it.
The idea behind the Open Source model is to encourage more players to fork the code, get involved, and bring their ideas to the table-so this is working as intended. DeepSeek is doing what many other companies are likely doing as well, albeit without broadcasting it. These companies are probably focusing on their own use cases with proprietary data they prefer not to share.
Andrej did mention this in his tweet, though it might still confuse some. Companies with mega clusters will focus on the next big innovations, while smaller players may wait to piggyback on those advancements. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, especially if companies like Meta or Google see AI models not as their core business but as tools to enhance their primary operations.😊😊
A lot of people are missing something important here. No biggie, you don't work with this. As expected, China just used the 100$ million dollar model to train the little model. Captioning and data is the big cost.
That is the whole point of “open source”, that anyone can learn it and improve it.
Is this why we still haven't seen GPT 5 and the like? They know the models will be trained on so they are waiting until they have progress on the next model before releasing?
Exactly
It is coming in Q1 2025
openAI, even with God's money cannot hope to compete against something that is 88% cheaper on inference.
OpenAI is building Rolls Royce. China is building Lexus, nay, BYD. And oh yah, it's a track race. Oops.
And they said China can't innovate.
First Elon bought X and now he launched the XAI303e token this year is crazy
Not crazy if u just copy from basic model,buy latest machine,and toup extra training with another language model
so Deepseek is just a fake o1 mini? Taking 01 outputs and training a cheap model on it? Why not just use the real o1 mini rather than a fake 01 mini? Sure the fake 01 mini is maybe free - but I doubt it's as good as the real 01 mini, and 01 mini isn't that expensive either.
You clearly missed the part where the reporter stated that it outperforms ChatGPT.
@@theotheleo6830the reporter states that because it claims so on their homepage and that’s it.
If it is close enough, you can't beat free
The reporter didnt mention o1. She mentioned GPT4 ans claimed that was the newest model. Totally stupid report. Their researchers cant even keep up🤷🏿♂️
It wasn’t trained on Outputs from another LLM, that’s why it was cheaper. The other frontier models trained their models from the ground up, that’s why their training is more expensive.
You can also buy a cheap iPhone in China, but people still opt for the real iPhone don't they?
The real iPhone is produced by China
@@djones5751 Manufactured you mean , no way they designed the chip LOL
The real iPhones are made in China too, from majority Chinese parts and circuitry.
Apple doesn't have any industrial know-how to manufacture anything, they contracted the manufacturing to the OEMs, and almost all of them along the full supply chain of iPhones are owned by the Chinese in mainland China and Taiwan. Apple is just doing the design of the CPU chip, phone shells and mostly the marketing hypes, lol. The only techy part Apple is doing about iPhone is the design of the CPU which is then manufactured by Taiwan's TSMC. Nowadays, even Xiaomi can design high-end CPU chips by itself, let alone the tech giant Huawei. According to the media reports in October 2024, China's phone brand Xiaomi had possessed capabilities of designing 3nm chips and was praised by the Beijing municipal govt (Xiaomi is headquatered in Beijing city), Xiaomi used to rely on the American company Qualcomm for phone CPU supplies (Qualcomm designed them and contracted to TSMC for manufacturing), now Xiaomi can break free from the dependence on Qualcomm and design its own CPUs and contracted TSMC for manufacturing. However, the US govt might add Xiaomi into the sanction list and Taiwan's TSMC may not dare to manufacture for Xiaomi as a result. Therefore, China must develop its own EUV lithography machines as soon as possible.
@@kenbehrens5778 I thought they moved a lot of their production to India...
Isnt it just a distilled model? So the frontier GPT-like models are actually necessary. Just thinking out loud
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When I was in school, I was taught every day to be the better version of myself and not to judge others. But now, watching Western media criticize DeepSeek as a threat, I’m starting to question if I missed the class on ‘How to Fear Everything That’s Different.’ Maybe they should’ve added a lesson on ‘Chill 101’ to the curriculum. 😂
Gotta love China lol popping the AI bubble in real time
A journalist who knows what she is talking about. That’s refreshing
state of the art? what about o1, o3 ?
China is gonna win the AI race because:
1. China AI's are open source and public, and everyone can improve the AIs; American AI's are proprietary, owned and privately guarded by corporations that are unwilling to share and cooperate with competitions.
2. China graduates 5 to 6 times more engineers, scientists and STEM students than the US every year; and, in 2023, 7 of the top 10 (and 16 out of the top 20) STEM institutes and universities are in China. China actually dominates the top science and engineering schools in the world right now. That means China are chunking out more high-quality STEM graduates every year, (i.e., who comes out of the top and most competitive STEM schools in the world,) while the US actually has a shortage of STEM graduates.
3. Hundreds of millions of Chinese, including all those STEM graduates AND hobbyists, are working on Chinese AI's that are open source and public. It is just the raw number and power. 2 to 3 decades ago, China had the raw manpower for labors, now they have the raw brainpower for STEM.
ChatGPT ingests the entire internet. I can't imagine how another AI ingests the entire internet from the outputs of ChatGPT.
no, chatgpt is not based on the entire internet. For example, chatgpt has no access to Chinese data while the Chinese companies access to internet both inside and outside of China. The data guarded by the Chinese guardrail is a big trove of knowledge.
@@dahaixing2376 How do you know that OpenAI doesn't have access to Chinese data? The Chinese internet is also accessible from outside, especially with VPN.
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