@@johnnyoutwest i heard that the spiral symbol means portal nearby , but im not too sure if i heard this in fiction , im pretty sure it wasnt fiction but cant exactly remember , mayeb someone can confirm
Cant thank you enough for the kind words! Those sentiments give my videos so much more purpose- I have another one coming your way next week. stay tuned! -Johnny
Thank you for taking us along on this great hike of discovery. I would like to see you wearing more protective clothing as you claim the rocky areas. Thank you for stressing the importance of not disturbing any of the ancient areas and native art.
The upside down man is common where I live. It means that the entrance to a cave to the netherworld is nearby. Note that its head is drawn as a spider.
@@christinemiller1946 it's nothing evil or weird. It's just a language. Those carvings of men, the way their arms are spells words in ancient ogham. If you are interest read the books 'america BC' it is full of pictures and examples. It's Irish. The swirls are the north star, so I presume the horned man is Baal, the north star being the eye of Baal. Those swirls are the precursor to the swastika.
The stash of corn , up in the cliffs , are emergency stashes . if they ran out of food or they were raided, and some people were able to the escape and hide during raids, they knew where the corn was hidden.
CLARIFICATION: At 2:15 it sounds like I say "Hundreds of thousands of years ago" but I actually said "Hundreds TO thousands of years ago". Thanks for watching and subscribe to the channel for more ancient adventures! -Johnny
Really interesting video. Keep this place a secret as much as you can. You have the right attitude about leaving the pictographs alone. I know the location of a Chumash cave in the Los Padres National Forest in California. It has over 100 pictographs. Only a few people know of its existence. There used to be a trail to it in the 1970s when I visited as part of a Boy Scout trail project. It is now overgrown and the cave and trail are no longer listed on any maps. I'm hoping to go back there in the future to take a lot of photographs. It is really hard to get to and I'm hopeful no one has damaged the site.
@@rickkaylor8554 please bro if I could somehow get even pictures, I'd never know the location but I would love to see. This is Irish ogham. It's called Tree ogham, even the drawings, they are ogham writing. The shape of their limbs or penis spells words. The frequency patterns are another type, and even the ones that look like slashes in a line. They are all different versions of ogham. For different geographic locations, they were all part of the ancient sun worship church and they used ogham to communicate. That must have been a place lots of different groups visited. Read 'America BC' or 'Ogam Consaine & Tifinag Alphabets ancient uses' to learn more about them
@@Dankness-e6i Here is a link to a group that took video of the cave I mentioned a few years ago. I never took any pictures since I didn't carry a camera most of the time back then. I was last there in 1972. They did not say where it is in the video - thankfully. I will not reveal where it is either. I hope to go there within the next few years to take a lot of pictures. It was hard to get to in the '70s when there was a trail and now it is a huge challenge to reach since there is no trail. ruclips.net/video/19vEUKLRgHI/видео.html
@@rickkaylor8554 oh wow thanks yep that's related also, the shape the arms and legs are in spells words, as do the little lines coming out of the limbs or antenna of the insect looking ones. I wish I could read it. Before you go again read 'America BC' & 'Ogam Consaine & Tifinag Alphabets ancient uses' and you'll have a much deeper understanding of what you're seeing
It's great to see so much interest of rock art from younger folks, that's what it will take to preserve these amazing sites that hold so much mystery and in time we may unravel some of their knowledge contained in them. Great video guys!
Thanks so much for watching! Agreed, the culture needs to change. Hopefully, we can shed some awareness on these issues that threaten the precious history of our country.
I was interested in the pictographs to the left. There's a ladder with a bucket or a basket? And what is that to the right of the basket or bucket it looks like a human that's running?! Of course a lot of this could be broken off Rock so you wouldn't be getting the whole picture
You two are good role models in how to appreciate and protect this history. True masters of their environment, these ancient people did not struggle to survive, but thrived there for thousands of years. I can't recommend enough to wear proper cover and protection in the hot backcountry. Light colored full-coverage clothing and a sun hat. Bare skin might feel cooler, but it is not if you measure core temperature during exertion. Definitely 'snake-30' in these hot canyons. Bare legs and low boots are zero snake protection. With enough miles and time you will eventually get hit. If you wear snake chaps or gaiters you will be pretty well protected -- and then be careful of where you place your hands. A rule of thumb for snakes is for every one you notice there are 10 you walked by and didn't see. A great benefit of full protection is that you will be a lot more relaxed at the end of the day and your skin will be protected without that slimy sun screen. This is not a fashion show; it is OK to be a safe nerd! Cool adventure channel. Nice!
You know you're stuff! REALLY appreciate all these tips. As someone who is relatively new to desert exploration I sure am lacking some of the gear and protective wear. I will definitely take your advice and gear up a bit more. I really like your perspective on the ancient people and how they were not struggling to survive. In this modern world, I think we have a tendency to look back on that way of life in a gruesome fashion. but I think you're right - masters of their environment. Also, the rule of thumb about snakes sounds about right! Appreciate you. hope you stick around and provide more insights!
💯 THIS. Appreciate you take advice well. Also bear spray and let someone know your location and approximate time to be back. Adventure on! This was epic! 💙🌿
@johnnyoutwest I used to live in AZ down by Congress and Wickenburg he beat me to it about gaiters and high boots or atleast a high top with a lot of leather. Also I don't remember if he said it but a nice tall walking stick. You can poke around in the brush with it to either scare off or be warned about snakes. When rattle snakes molt they are extremely agitated because the molt clouds ove there eye's and the rattle so sometimes you won't hear a loud rattle. Just be carefull we want ya around for more adventures. Oh my brother is part of a search and rescue team here in the pnw and he is always saying if your going on long hikes get a satellite phone for emergency use. Garmin or one of the others they usually do GPS as well. Good luck.
@@Phenixrising-p1p Amen about a walking stick to probe through brush to get possible advanced notice of snakes. I usually use one I cut to my height. They also make it a lot less exhausting walking down hills. Besides snake safety, they save a lot of energy in rough country off trail. They can also be used for protection against rabid coyotes, ex girlfriends, creditors, slow drive-up window workers at McDonald's, etc.
I can tell how much you love your hikes. It shines through your eyes. With each discovery, you lit up. I used to love it just as much. Living vicariously through you with your videos. Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for the sweet and kind comment! More adventures coming soon, hopefully will be posting a video this week, if not early next week. gonna be a good one
That's the plan. Yeah, it's unfortunate that not everyone has respect for ancient artifacts. Hopefully through further education and a shared consideration for the preciousness of these sites, we can change the culture.
@johnnyoutwest agreed man. I live in AZ and the lack of respect for things like this absolutely blows my mind. First time hearing "observe and preserve" too. Should put it on a t shirt haha 🤘🏻
I hope you do good record keeping because there’s idiots out there that can’t wait to destroy it - you see what those demented “stop oil “ idiots are doing .
Great find and thanks for sharing this! I remember watching a video many years ago, that explained what the spiral glyphs represented at that particular location. The host stated that it represented the full cycle of the moon. I can't remember exactly how many years it takes for this to occur, but I want to say it's around 18.5 years. (I may be mistaken since I'm going by memory). When either of the Solstices/Equinox occur, a small opening in a rock that was adjacent to the spiral, a small triangle shape of sunlight would appear on one of the "arms" of the spiral. This would be used to show what part of the moon cycle they were currently in, and how many more years remain during the current cycle. Keep up the great work guys and thank you both again for sharing your discoveries! Cheers
Wow thats super fascinating. Really appreciate you watching and joining the convo! Hope you stick around, I could use your insight for future discoveries
**CORRECTION** When I mentioned that the spirals represented "that" particular location, I didn't mean the location in this video! I was referring to the location of a previously watched video that explained the spiral glyph/moon cycle connection. I don't remember what the name of that particular video is, unfortunately , and I do apologize for not making my statement more clear. Cheers
A amazing Video! Thank you for having us on this trip and let us share in this historic treasure! I am very grateful for that! Best regards from Switzerland!
What a beautiful place. Thanks for the great video! The history lesson made it even more enjoyable.That last pictograph (23;42) had horns on his head. Really interesting.
The figure with the horns looks like a Wendigo. It probably represents a chieftain or spiritual figure. There was a lot of carbon on the cliffs above the site, so there would have been years of fires for ceremonies.
It is Baal, the North Star. The same as those spirals, they are the north star the centre of the sky the stars rotate around. The golden ratio, as above, so below. This is all Irish, those ladders are Irish Tree Ogham. As are the spirals, an Irish thing. The pre cursor for the Swastika, seen in BAALbek.
All VERY interesting and well put together guys; stunning stuff ! And that rock formation at 18:16 was so amazing, almost looked like it had been built there to prop the spur up . Love it fellas !
Beautiful and mesmerizing…More than anything, I thank you for the care and respect you show to this precious and irreplaceable history. I really appreciate your efforts to document and allow us to see these amazing shadows of a beautiful and strong people. Stay safe. ❤
Great job, Lads. Incredible history. I appreciate the respect you've shown by being careful not to alter any of the ancient art. Keep up the great work.
I would think they moved with the seasons, they had to have such places when they returned they would have food AKA stash. I am from Nooksack Tribe, love your content.
Did the Nooksacks traditionally move up Mt Baker to the artist point to pick huckleberries? (Always wanted to ask a Nooksack, it's quite a Mecca nowadays)
That is what I was told for the Indiana tribes. They had multiple summer and winter camps established depending on weather conditions, protection needs, food and water sources etc
Oh my God this is absolutely beautiful! I'm so glad I found your channel, I am about to watch everything! I'm sending prayers and protection your way for all of your journeys from here forth 🙏🏻❤️ I am obsessed with ancient civilizations! There's so much people still don't know, and it will blow your mind.
Great video. Thank you for showing this place. I like the fact that you guys respect the ancient artwork. If more people would do that it would help preserve these artifacts.
Good video, nice job. The panel had so many colors, really impressive creativity. They must have had a large paint palette. There are some good books written about this canyon/subcanyons.
I’d imagine those areas were probably much wetter and greener and even cooler due to glaciation in nearby mountain ranges. More water means crops were easier to grow.
The reason for stashing food high up like that was because flash flooding was so unpredictable. What I'm curious about is how the hell they were able to climb up to these spots while trying to carry anything at all like the grain or building materials.
They had ramps, platforms and ladders. It will have all decayed by now, but it was probably very well constructed and durable. They carried material on their backs with primitive backpacks.
It’s so incredibly interesting that not only is there remnants and artifacts of past peoples but their spiritual presence as souls are probably present as well!
Amazing geology! It is strange the people would put their food up so high & to be able to get to it. Maybe they were small people. Thanks for a great video.
If you look at the grand canyon you'll notice many "veins" coming from the main canyon. I found many interesting things in those veins. Which are just smaller canyons coming from the main canyon. Some of these canyons stretch for miles and miles.
@@johnnyoutwest win i was a kid of 13. My mom sister & myself spent 1.5m traveling Utha and 9 other states. I was from Rhodesia then Zimbawe. Now known as Zimbabwe. I loved it
i read early expeditions that say those marks/petroglyphs are actually the mark of different tribal chiefs. that mark boundaries for hunting or control of the area. like those at the great cave. jonathan carver 1760
If these sites are on federal land or in a national park, they have probably been investigated by many others who choose to leave them as they are. Its illegal to disturb them.
Let's get something straight. Very soon the Federal Government will have to relinquish its holds on public lands because the federal government is ONLY ALLOWED to possess military reservations, and sea port lands. The federal government also can oversee the reservation lands of our Native American People, but in no way are they allowed to dictate to the Tribes what they can or cannot do on their lands including gambling (thats a different tale). Some lands are National Parks, and under the law (constitution, the highest law of the land) the Federal Government is NOT allowed to impede any CITIZEN (foreign born persons are excluded from most rules, and must have visas to even be in the country,unless they are naturalized, but thats thankfully going to change very soon) from using and enjoying that land. In cases of mining operations, the current regulations require that people follow a simple process to register mineral claims, and when mining operations have concluded, the land has to be Restored to a reasonable condition (it has to look really good or they will find themselves spending all of the money they made restoring and defending themselves in court, so as not to become a Blight, Or an Eye Sore, or create a toxic 'bomb' in the future (like what happened in the San Juan River a few years ago when an abandoned mining operation from the 1800's collapsed,, and sent toxic water into the pristine waters of the San Juan.) Additionally, public lands can be used for cattle grazing, which is a very good thing because the large heards of bison, and elk no longer contribute their dung to fertilize the ground, and churn it into the ground with their hooves. So cattle grazing Is A Very Good Thing For our National grasslands. The BLM will most likely be restored to what it was like in the Early 1900's: A few offices and a small contingent of personnel. The USFS were the eyes and ears for the BLM, and their need of a larger staff was unnecessary. Boy how Obummer changed our government into a Bureau of sub bureaus.... that's a trick from the earlier soviet union.... Things will go back to the way they were soon. Anyways, keeping this a secret is a very good thing, and on our Family Ranch in Colorado(a genuine Spanish Collonial Land Grant in the San Luis Valley) we have many places where our ancestors left their sign and possessions. There are actually baskets, sandals, pottery, and a lage pile of chert was left for future tool making in one place. The chert came from over a hundred miles away! It must be of special quality, I guess. I don't knapp stone, but a couple of my cousins still like the old ways and knapp stone for arts and crafts fairs, and even go into elementary schools to demonstrate this when they are asked. I know this was long and wandered a lot, but the bottom line is this: DO NOT TAKE INDIAN SIGN. Be respectfu,l and if you are caught taking these items you can get many years in prison. If you get caught on private land, you might lose your life, and that's not a joke. People who take such things have no respect for life anyway, it's obvious, so good riddance in my opinion.
We don't know what the weather was like 500, 1,000, or 5,000 years ago. 200 years ago, a river ran through Tucson, AZ year-round. supported large pecan forests. today it is a desert wasteland. just look at how the weather has changed in the last few years. now, imagine millennia. we just don't know. I have been to countless sites like this over the past 73 years. just when you think you figured it out, a discovery will occur that changes everything.
Thank you so much for those kind words!! Really appreciate you...should have a new video out next week. Stay tuned! turn on notifications if you havent already! -Johnny
If you contacted a local University or museum archaeology & anthropology department, they could provide the best resources to preserve and protect these artifacts. Additionally, people may gain a better understanding of a lost culture, through proper documentation, cataloging, and studying the land and artifacts. They would have the best resources to government agencies to protect and preserve this hidden gem. I would hate to see such beauty destroyed by people treasure hunting, or compromised in any way. What an amazing find…what a thrill to have experienced such a pure piece of American history as you did!
You fellas are real fortunate to have one another to hike like that and explore because I wish I was young again to be able to experience things like that very fortunate you are. Stay blessed and safe fellas.
It was NOT "an oasis", but an "arm" of Lake Anasazi, the third of the western "great lakes", along with Lake Lahontan and Lake Bonneville. These bodies of water would be the dregs of the inland sea that once surrounded an ancient (very, very) polar location (near Navajo Mountain). The region east of the Wasatch Front, and west of the Rocky Mountains, was inundated by a massive flood that came from the water course traversing the western edges if the Old North American Craton (ONAC), along the eastern side of what would become the Colorado Plateau, a "fractured" craton left over from an earlier version of Earth. The water remained for more than three millennia, before the last of it drained away down the Grand Canyon, on its way to the sea. Some Anasazi lived in Glen Canyon, until they died out, but most Anasazi packed up and left, in search of greener pastures. There distant ancestors, the Navajo, Zuni, Tonto O'Odham, and Apaches, would return a few hundred years later, to take up permanent residency. The story of the brave adventurers, first to venture into a "virgin" land, is one of unsung bravery, in the face of desolation, privation, and an uncompromising climate. Few of us would be able to match their success, existing with no support system, no diversions, and no rest for the weary, from the demands of survival.
@@johnnyoutwest There is another You-Tuber who has made videos about Lake Anasazi (one calls it "Lake Hopi", but the Hopis were much later arrivals). This was one of my shorter replies. I've been researching the stories of the ancient past (before the end of the 8th Century BC) for most of the last 50 years, The narrative of the people who became the Anasazi, until they "disappeared", is one of courage, in the face of desolation and destruction, stamina, in the face of privation and loss, and determination, in the face of mind-boggling events and crushing setbacks. It is a tale of bravery we don't give thought to, when we look at the ruins scattered about the Southwest. They adapted to changing conditions modern humans have never had to face,, even in our worst moments. The events that created the American West were titanic, leaving the few, surviving humans frightened, and scattered, alone on a proto-continent with only their wits to guide them.
It’s a warning - use the ladder and don’t be stupid- that’s why they keep emphasizing the ladder symbol and the guy falling on his head because ladders are for sissies-he thinks
Thank you so much for the kind words my friend! So glad to hear you enjoyed it. More western adventures coming soon, be sure to turn on notifications so you don’t miss them! -Johnny
Mr. Ellis. I recommend that you use the indigenous names for the people and artifacts you study. Likely, that government scout Freemont never saw these people let alone cared about them. Use of whiteman names to describe native people is highly disrespectful. Enjoyed your travels. Keep on it.
According to the Dine' oral history (Navajo) .. the "Fremont" Indians had LONG before, joined the Dine'. Over 700 years before the Fremont expedition found the ruins of their past inhabitant dwellings.. They joined because of the cannibal slavers .. the Ana Sa a' Zi ... "the different people" ... began raiding them and taking them to be slaves, sacrifices and food.
How would you learn the name that the people used? How would you know what the people called and area or a rock, etc? Understanding that other people don’t know or don’t need to know some things that the people know is just a given. Don’t take his lack of knowledge personally. Question - do you know the meaning behind the name of the place o live? No you don’t.
@frankedgar6694 Frank yes I know the history of the town name I live in. But thanks for answering the question for me. Taking an interest in such things is called research and respect. Much as an author calling a tribe by their traditional name is.
When the park service was developing Tuzewoot, having no idea what to call the ruin, they asked the Navajo and the Hopi, neither of which is related to the ancients by culture or DNA, to suggest a name. Then they picked the one they thought sounded best. Out of respect, for whatever bogus names are worth.
cool thanks for bringing me along. take good pics of the art and sharing them w/ the local natives cause they can tell u what they mean. Thanks for respecting the past young man.
Love the videos maybe look into catching on to what the petroglyphs usually mean. The circle could be life or astronomical . Not eyeballs or a maze. And the human figures are usually shamans with different headdresses. Not aliens sorry boys. Think outside the box put yourself in their place their time. great work I love the videos. And I agree with some of the other comments do not expose the locations
Hey Lisa thanks so much for your input! Yeah I agree, I want to put some research into the meanings behind the art. So far I have been mostly going off of my interpretations but it would be nice to look at some of the archaeological data and see what others have concluded. Stay tuned, more historical explorations coming soon.
Wow! How beautiful and historic! I am now too old and with health issues so I cannot do this sort of thing myself, so I thank these two young guys for all of their hard work and for filming it so that I too can see it.
I find this all fascinating cuz we know so little about them I like listening to the oral history of the Native Americans to figure out more. What I can't figure out is why they were so far behind the rest of the world. The rest of the world had Advanced farming by this point the Greeks had came and went all the engineering philosophy Etc. The pyramids were built all over the world. The Acropolis was made. Terrace irrigation all over the the world to climatize crops. Mexican Central American and South American pyramids have been built math technology. And these people are living in mud caves on the side of cliffs hiding for their lives. I just want to know why? I think they were either fighting from each other or those red-headed Giants the Native Americans mentioned that they found the skulls in the Lovelock cave. That the Smithsonian had the guy burn in there incinerator in the basement.😢 yeah that really happened when the guy really admitted it I watched the documentary. I know I'm rambling but I've been watching this stuff from as long as you been alive
Yeah thats an interesting point, really appreciate you bringing this up. Im curious now too. Perhaps they were just generally resistant to modern ways. You see societies today like Amish folks who intentionally live in a preserved fashion, avoiding modern technology. Maybe they wanted to maintain a simpler style of life?
@@johnnyoutwest I think they're more cavemen like honestly. As far as the kivas those round structure pits that's high engineering. I think those are descendants from the remnants of atlanteans
I don't want to comment on a bad comment, but seeing that it expresses a common sentiment, someone should debunk this bigoted assumption. As you can see, this ancient civilization isn't just superior to the American one, where average person is well below the level of intelligence of a preschool child in a traditional society, where children aquire a level of fitness, social, technological or survival skills that a normal person never does. As far as building pyramids, a lost art or civilization that hasn't yet been discovered or attempted with the normal technology, to these savages was not a problem like it is for the modern man. The modern man needs these great monuments to ego and supremacy, trying to outdo each other and the ancients, trying to feel great or at least great again by repeating their feats on the Vegas strip. Tough luck, but even cheap imitations draw crowds, a wonder for such low lives with lowest expectations as Americans. But these cliff dwellers had no use for the pyramids and nowhere to put them in these steep canyons. Besides, to build on such a scale takes thousands, the land couldn't support such population. The climate fluctuates, so for a while there flourished a much bigger population, as evidenced by these great building projects, but these were abandoned once the climate got drier. Also, since Americans have no clue about civilization, civilization isn't science and technology, but the opposite; science and technology is the alternative to civilization, enabling ignorance and evil. As they say, it takes a pueblo(village), civilization is the social order, the community, what's absent in a modern, scientific, individualistic society, society of selfishness, ignorance, personal or private interests, rights or values. But the ancient man had no democracy, so we see them as inferior, subhumans, because they had no constitutions or institutions of privilege and supremacy, God-given rights and liberties, they had to work and be good at it, meritocracy was the order of the day, and still is for the illegal aliens, subjected by democracy as its subservients or the working class, the illegals aren't just the progeny of the pueblo, but their living culture.
@chile19275 I personally seen three at UFOs two different occasions broad daylight right over Van Nuys airport with my friend who took a picture of it. Clear as day the classic hubcap shape. I personally know of two people who were abducted buy aliens and who left Circle gridlock patterns on their bodies and they took video of the spacecraft on both their iPhones. I was on a Believer before I saw all this. You don't have to believe me you didn't see it with your own eyes I did.
First time here. Enjoyed it . Amazing nature and culture and i like what you said that we shoild respect cultures which i see is lacking even we see stolen items from all over tge world in British museum. . Thank you for sharing raw natural piece of nature emotions from this beautiful meadow.
It required an hour plus drive over a mountain pass on a rugged dirt road. The road there is for archaeologists as this is a protected space. May not be remote to a coyote, but to your average person it sure is remote. If you got bit by a rattle snake out there, you’d be in a pickle.
99.9% of sites have already been located and catalogged years ago. Every University archaeology department has a confidential data base of every site and is kept from the public for obvious reasons. Enjoyed the video. Here's two that are exellent. DESERT DRIFTER and ENIGMA CLANDISTINO.
This was private land?? Absolutely spectacular, stunning beauty. Hard to imagine this valley being private land - ranch land, 1800s? It's unfortunate that we'll never know the precise History of the dwellings of the people. Can you feel vibes - the spirituality within? Thank you for sharing this - but of its' location, don't give too much away! Hope to see more ❤️
What if the previous inhabitants didn't climb up from the ground, but instead climbed/rappelled down? I think it would be easier, somewhat safer, and use much less energy, than climbing upwards. I would search for a central location on the cliff face that could be used as a base camp. From here, one could make ladders that could be used to reach high places on the cliff face and possibly stored here. Once the artist arrives at this base camp , they could grab (x) amount of ladders needed, to get them to their chosen location.The ladders could also be used as temporary, boardwalks/bridges, that would allow them to cross difficult areas. This method would allow the artwork to remain undisturbed for great lengths of time due to the difficulty in accessing it. Cheers
Good thought. But seeing how the rocks fracture here, it might have been difficult but still possible to climb up from the floor. The rock pile shown sure does look like steps going up to to a panel that might have been more accessible in ancient times.
Yeah thats definitely an interesting point. If that's the case, they would have had to embark on extremely long hikes from their dwelling spaces down in the meadows to wherever those access points could have been. But it sure seems possible. From my perspective there were not many easy ways to get up to the rim once down in the canyon. appreciate you bringing this up!
This was one of the most compelling, so many questions with all the evidence of life there was unreal. It's unfortunate that we take for granted where we come from and what it took to get in this point in history. Would love to go on a hike with you one day .
The pictograph that shows a person upside down and also painted with something red, I have seen on an archeological site and they said it was a memorial spot showing where and how the person died. So, the one you filmed shows someone may have fallen to their death or jumped to their death. If you ever go back to that place, get the above area in the video, it may just tell you what happened.
At 8:40, I believe you are right about the ladder. On top of the gliff that looks like a ladder it has a plant, probably corn carved on it. I believe that shows corn was in their grainery up there. That makes sense. The animals and people would take the food. Thank You for sharing with us. Around 17:00, I've never seen a petrograph like that with a dog. I've seen upside-down people, but not that big. Very cool place. I'd like to see those walls without the bushes and trees. The last wall of pictographs have people standing hand in hand. I see that a lot. They were happy and they worked together.
Great adventure. Awesome cinematography. The large TV shaped pic looks like what some would call a UFO or vessel of some sort experienced by the people of that time. Giants are said to have walked the earth in the region. There were pictographs you showed of such possible events. What a life these people lived.
LOVE this video! Awesome history, music, and drone footage!!
Really appreciate those kind words gary. Glad you liked the music! I wanted the music to match the tone of the canyon perfectly.
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@@johnnyoutwest i heard that the spiral symbol means portal nearby , but im not too sure if i heard this in fiction , im pretty sure it wasnt fiction but cant exactly remember , mayeb someone can confirm
This is by far the best way to get out & see the Wilderness for a Old cripple Retired ironworker! Tks Guys for making it possible!❤ 👍🙏😎🇨🇦
Cant thank you enough for the kind words! Those sentiments give my videos so much more purpose- I have another one coming your way next week. stay tuned!
-Johnny
Tks! Johnny for getting Me out on the road with You! I'm looking forward to seeing the next video's!❤
New video went live yesterday, hope you enjoy!
Thank you for taking us along on this great hike of discovery. I would like to see you wearing more protective clothing as you claim the rocky areas. Thank you for stressing the importance of not disturbing any of the ancient areas and native art.
Yeah you raise a valid point. I am looking into buying more gear, I really need it. Thanks so much for watching!
The upside down man is common where I live. It means that the entrance to a cave to the netherworld is nearby. Note that its head is drawn as a spider.
crazy! thanks for watching!
I was thinking maybe a memorial to someone who fell their death. 🤷♂️
Where do you live?? Because all of those carvings are Irish, Tree Ogham it is called. Those swirls also, so I'm very curious
This is also symbolism of when man fell in the garden,and the inversion of the "beast system" began.
@@christinemiller1946 it's nothing evil or weird. It's just a language. Those carvings of men, the way their arms are spells words in ancient ogham. If you are interest read the books 'america BC' it is full of pictures and examples. It's Irish.
The swirls are the north star, so I presume the horned man is Baal, the north star being the eye of Baal. Those swirls are the precursor to the swastika.
Well, youtube actually recommended an interesting video! 😀
Glad you liked it! More coming soon
The stash of corn , up in the cliffs , are emergency stashes . if they ran out of food or they were raided, and some people were able to the escape and hide during raids, they knew where the corn was hidden.
Yeah interesting thought. Thanks for watching and joining the convo!
Great line of thinking.
CLARIFICATION: At 2:15 it sounds like I say "Hundreds of thousands of years ago" but I actually said "Hundreds TO thousands of years ago".
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-Johnny
Amen 🙏 Iykyk 😊
@@machinegunner223what a 🐱 you must be, some 🫠 brain dead lad on RUclips talking 🧇
@@machinegunner223rage baiter
Dude you obviously can’t tie your shoes
@@bluprintdesignco1397 any are there so many straight weirdos on here
Thanks for this incredible adventure be careful climbing not worth dying
Really appreciate you watching. Yeah agreed!
Really interesting video. Keep this place a secret as much as you can. You have the right attitude about leaving the pictographs alone. I know the location of a Chumash cave in the Los Padres National Forest in California. It has over 100 pictographs. Only a few people know of its existence. There used to be a trail to it in the 1970s when I visited as part of a Boy Scout trail project. It is now overgrown and the cave and trail are no longer listed on any maps. I'm hoping to go back there in the future to take a lot of photographs. It is really hard to get to and I'm hopeful no one has damaged the site.
Wow that sounds amazing! Would be amazing to explore there. Thanks so much for watching Rick! More western adventures coming soon
I hope he gets a hold of you and is able to show us. I'm disabled and can't get around anymore, and I rely on people like this to keep traveling.
@@rickkaylor8554 please bro if I could somehow get even pictures, I'd never know the location but I would love to see. This is Irish ogham. It's called Tree ogham, even the drawings, they are ogham writing. The shape of their limbs or penis spells words. The frequency patterns are another type, and even the ones that look like slashes in a line. They are all different versions of ogham. For different geographic locations, they were all part of the ancient sun worship church and they used ogham to communicate. That must have been a place lots of different groups visited.
Read 'America BC' or 'Ogam Consaine & Tifinag Alphabets ancient uses' to learn more about them
@@Dankness-e6i Here is a link to a group that took video of the cave I mentioned a few years ago. I never took any pictures since I didn't carry a camera most of the time back then. I was last there in 1972. They did not say where it is in the video - thankfully. I will not reveal where it is either. I hope to go there within the next few years to take a lot of pictures. It was hard to get to in the '70s when there was a trail and now it is a huge challenge to reach since there is no trail.
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@@rickkaylor8554 oh wow thanks yep that's related also, the shape the arms and legs are in spells words, as do the little lines coming out of the limbs or antenna of the insect looking ones. I wish I could read it. Before you go again read 'America BC' & 'Ogam Consaine & Tifinag Alphabets ancient uses' and you'll have a much deeper understanding of what you're seeing
It's great to see so much interest of rock art from younger folks, that's what it will take to preserve these amazing sites that hold so much mystery and in time we may unravel some of their knowledge contained in them. Great video guys!
Thanks so much for watching! Agreed, the culture needs to change. Hopefully, we can shed some awareness on these issues that threaten the precious history of our country.
Those pictographs were amazing! The bear paw was so dark and I’ve never seen that painted before. Looks like a cool spot for the shaman to chill.
Pretty cool right? Thanks for watching!
-Johnny
I was interested in the pictographs to the left. There's a ladder with a bucket or a basket? And what is that to the right of the basket or bucket it looks like a human that's running?! Of course a lot of this could be broken off Rock so you wouldn't be getting the whole picture
@@mikeinkalaoa the shaman is in the underworld now. Pity him. He was misled
Found this by accident, and loved the outdoor adventure. Ill be back
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Same here
I found this by chance too! Love it!❤
New video went live yesterday, let me know what you think!
@@johnnyoutwest27:07
Absolutely love this, brother. I’m so glad you found me and that we will soon be exploring and hanging out together.
Appreciate you brother. Looking forward to it
You two are good role models in how to appreciate and protect this history. True masters of their environment, these ancient people did not struggle to survive, but thrived there for thousands of years. I can't recommend enough to wear proper cover and protection in the hot backcountry. Light colored full-coverage clothing and a sun hat. Bare skin might feel cooler, but it is not if you measure core temperature during exertion. Definitely 'snake-30' in these hot canyons. Bare legs and low boots are zero snake protection. With enough miles and time you will eventually get hit. If you wear snake chaps or gaiters you will be pretty well protected -- and then be careful of where you place your hands. A rule of thumb for snakes is for every one you notice there are 10 you walked by and didn't see. A great benefit of full protection is that you will be a lot more relaxed at the end of the day and your skin will be protected without that slimy sun screen. This is not a fashion show; it is OK to be a safe nerd! Cool adventure channel. Nice!
You know you're stuff! REALLY appreciate all these tips. As someone who is relatively new to desert exploration I sure am lacking some of the gear and protective wear. I will definitely take your advice and gear up a bit more. I really like your perspective on the ancient people and how they were not struggling to survive. In this modern world, I think we have a tendency to look back on that way of life in a gruesome fashion. but I think you're right - masters of their environment. Also, the rule of thumb about snakes sounds about right! Appreciate you. hope you stick around and provide more insights!
💯 THIS. Appreciate you take advice well. Also bear spray and let someone know your location and approximate time to be back. Adventure on! This was epic! 💙🌿
@@01Lenda Thank you! Appreciate the words of wisdom.
-Johnny
@johnnyoutwest I used to live in AZ down by Congress and Wickenburg he beat me to it about gaiters and high boots or atleast a high top with a lot of leather. Also I don't remember if he said it but a nice tall walking stick. You can poke around in the brush with it to either scare off or be warned about snakes. When rattle snakes molt they are extremely agitated because the molt clouds ove there eye's and the rattle so sometimes you won't hear a loud rattle. Just be carefull we want ya around for more adventures. Oh my brother is part of a search and rescue team here in the pnw and he is always saying if your going on long hikes get a satellite phone for emergency use. Garmin or one of the others they usually do GPS as well. Good luck.
@@Phenixrising-p1p Amen about a walking stick to probe through brush to get possible advanced notice of snakes. I usually use one I cut to my height. They also make it a lot less exhausting walking down hills. Besides snake safety, they save a lot of energy in rough country off trail. They can also be used for protection against rabid coyotes, ex girlfriends, creditors, slow drive-up window workers at McDonald's, etc.
Thank you for taking us on this amazing journey! Very interesting. 😄🧡
Thanks so much for watching! Appreciate you. new video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
Just posted a new video, hope you check it out!
Yes thank you so much!
Thanks for watching my friend! More western adventures coming soon.
-Johnny
Thanks!
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Fascinating find! Cant believe these things are not more heavily studied.
And protected.
I can tell how much you love your hikes. It shines through your eyes. With each discovery, you lit up. I used to love it just as much. Living vicariously through you with your videos. Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for the sweet and kind comment! More adventures coming soon, hopefully will be posting a video this week, if not early next week. gonna be a good one
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they made pole ladders and yucca rope ladders which were soft and easy to carry ...
Of course they had ladders!
Dont tell anyone where this is at. People ruin everything
That's the plan. Yeah, it's unfortunate that not everyone has respect for ancient artifacts. Hopefully through further education and a shared consideration for the preciousness of these sites, we can change the culture.
If they are in a national park or on federal land, they are on a map. If they are in private land, then they are probably not
@johnnyoutwest agreed man. I live in AZ and the lack of respect for things like this absolutely blows my mind. First time hearing "observe and preserve" too. Should put it on a t shirt haha 🤘🏻
@@rawdawgg_ hahah appreciate you man! Yeah that just came to mind spontaneously and it rolled off the tongue welll.
I hope you do good record keeping because there’s idiots out there that can’t wait to destroy it - you see what those demented “stop oil “ idiots are doing .
Great find and thanks for sharing this! I remember watching a video many years ago, that explained what the spiral glyphs represented at that particular location. The host stated that it represented the full cycle of the moon. I can't remember exactly how many years it takes for this to occur, but I want to say it's around 18.5 years. (I may be mistaken since I'm going by memory). When either of the Solstices/Equinox occur, a small opening in a rock that was adjacent to the spiral, a small triangle shape of sunlight would appear on one of the "arms" of the spiral. This would be used to show what part of the moon cycle they were currently in, and how many more years remain during the current cycle. Keep up the great work guys and thank you both again for sharing your discoveries! Cheers
Wow thats super fascinating. Really appreciate you watching and joining the convo! Hope you stick around, I could use your insight for future discoveries
**CORRECTION**
When I mentioned that the spirals represented "that" particular location, I didn't mean the location in this video! I was referring to the location of a previously watched video that explained the spiral glyph/moon cycle connection. I don't remember what the name of that particular video is, unfortunately , and I do apologize for not making my statement more clear. Cheers
@@chadh3441 Yeah i actually read it just the way you intended to express your thought the first time! thanks for clarifying though
A amazing Video! Thank you for having us on this trip and let us share in this historic treasure!
I am very grateful for that! Best regards from Switzerland!
Really appreciate your kind words! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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What a beautiful place. Thanks for the great video! The history lesson made it even more enjoyable.That last pictograph (23;42) had horns on his head. Really interesting.
Thanks so much for those kind words!! Im super glad to hear that you enjoyed it
The figure with the horns looks like a Wendigo. It probably represents a chieftain or spiritual figure. There was a lot of carbon on the cliffs above the site, so there would have been years of fires for ceremonies.
It is Baal, the North Star. The same as those spirals, they are the north star the centre of the sky the stars rotate around. The golden ratio, as above, so below. This is all Irish, those ladders are Irish Tree Ogham. As are the spirals, an Irish thing. The pre cursor for the Swastika, seen in BAALbek.
So beautiful John. Great seeing you and Connor together ❤
Thanks 😊😊
Thank you for taking us along!
My pleasure, thanks for watching! New video coming next week, stay tuned.
-Johnny
All VERY interesting and well put together guys; stunning stuff ! And that rock formation at 18:16 was so amazing, almost looked like it had been built there to prop the spur up . Love it fellas !
Thanks so much for the kind comment! Really means a lot. New video coming next week, should be a good one. Stay tuned
-Johnny
Hey! Just posted a new video yesterday, I think you will like it! Let me know what you think
Beautiful and mesmerizing…More than anything, I thank you for the care and respect you show to this precious and irreplaceable history. I really appreciate your efforts to document and allow us to see these amazing shadows of a beautiful and strong people. Stay safe. ❤
Thanks so much for your kind comment! Means a lot. -Johnny
Well done video. Will definitely watch more of your vids. What incredible scenery and history you were in. I would live to hike there someday.
Thanks so much for the kind words. Really appreciate you. More western adventures coming soon
-Johnny
Hello my friend! I just posted a new video to my channel a couple days ago. I think you’ll like it, let me know what you think!
Subscribed! I love how you respect nature and antiquities.
Thanks for watching don. Your kind words mean a lot. More vids coming soon!
Great job, Lads. Incredible history. I appreciate the respect you've shown by being careful not to alter any of the ancient art. Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much for the kind words steve! Appreciate you watching.
-Johnny
Great videos! Enjoyed watching!
Really appreciate those kind words! More archaeological adventures coming soon
I would think they moved with the seasons, they had to have such places when they returned they would have food AKA stash. I am from Nooksack Tribe, love your content.
That makes sense. Having some stashed already would lessen the pressure while they're waiting for the new crops to ripen and be ready for harvest.
Yeah this theory makes a ton of sense. Thanks for your comment!
-Johnny
Did the Nooksacks traditionally move up Mt Baker to the artist point to pick huckleberries? (Always wanted to ask a Nooksack, it's quite a Mecca nowadays)
That is what I was told for the Indiana tribes. They had multiple summer and winter camps established depending on weather conditions, protection needs, food and water sources etc
@@enndee989 yes…during the 1970’s we went with my grandpa, he was born in 1894, he told me many stories. Ty for reminding me.
Oh my God this is absolutely beautiful! I'm so glad I found your channel, I am about to watch everything! I'm sending prayers and protection your way for all of your journeys from here forth 🙏🏻❤️ I am obsessed with ancient civilizations! There's so much people still don't know, and it will blow your mind.
Thank you for the super kind words!!! I truly appreciate it. New video coming tomorrow, stay tuned.
-Johnny
Yay! I'll absolutely be waiting! 😁
New video is live if you haven’t seen it yet!
Subscribed, keep up the great videos.
Thanks so much for the sub! More ancient discoveries coming soon
Great video. Thank you for showing this place. I like the fact that you guys respect the ancient artwork. If more people would do that it would help preserve these artifacts.
Thanks so much for watching William! Appreciate your kind words
Love your attitude and video. New subscriber. Love the Southwest art and history,. Thank you,
Thanks so much for those kind words! Really means a lot. New video coming next week so stayt tuned!
-Johnny
AWESOME VIDEO, BROTHER!
(i forgot to mention in my long winded rant)
Thank you for the kind words!! means a lot. More western adventures coming soon!
Good video, nice job. The panel had so many colors, really impressive creativity. They must have had a large paint palette. There are some good books written about this canyon/subcanyons.
Thanks so much! Im a fan of your channel. thanks for saying hi!
that looks so much like a row of european houses, with a tree, and a fence. i wonder if the orange above it was a picture of a fire.
@carlthecrusher you should go get these guys to show you these. Some of the most prestine panels I’ve seen. Unreal. Awesome video guys
I’d imagine those areas were probably much wetter and greener and even cooler due to glaciation in nearby mountain ranges. More water means crops were easier to grow.
Interesting point, thanks for watching and mentioning your two cents!
@@johnnyoutwest thanks, ex archaeologist and museum employee
Amazing! Curious to know why you think food was stored up high in the cliffs?
Just found your channel and love it! Thanks for being so respectful of these hidden ancient sites. Keep them a secret. 👍
Thanks so much for those kind words!! More ancient adventures coming soon.
-Johnny
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The reason for stashing food high up like that was because flash flooding was so unpredictable. What I'm curious about is how the hell they were able to climb up to these spots while trying to carry anything at all like the grain or building materials.
I was about to say this.
Probably fiber ropes and ladders
Ropes, dropped stuff Down!! Also hade ladders
Makeshift backpacks too
They had ramps, platforms and ladders. It will have all decayed by now, but it was probably very well constructed and durable. They carried material on their backs with primitive backpacks.
Nice job , Guys, Both "the Finding"& "Exploring"💪👀👍😎
Thank you! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
Thanks for sharing. The big panel remnds me of the Sego site with the black figure and red outliers
Yeah agree, I have yet to make it to the Sego panel. Will likely be heading to Moab in the next two months. Thanks for watching!
Super great job thanks for bringing us these videos amazing shots . very informative and respectful !!!!
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-Johnny
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It’s so incredibly interesting that not only is there remnants and artifacts of past peoples but their spiritual presence as souls are probably present as well!
crazy to think about
Wonderfull to walk free in that nature. 😊
it really is!
Amazing geology! It is strange the people would put their food up so high & to be able to get to it. Maybe they were small people. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks for watching! Yeah it's an intriguing mystery
They kept the food high to avoid flash floods taking out their food. Or to keep away from animals. Or both.
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They may have hidden the food from the Sabe people.
Incredibly important that these records of people of the past be documented and studied. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
-Johnny
If you look at the grand canyon you'll notice many "veins" coming from the main canyon. I found many interesting things in those veins. Which are just smaller canyons coming from the main canyon. Some of these canyons stretch for miles and miles.
pretty amazing. were lucky to be on a planet as incredible as this one.
-Johnny
No cell phone reception. What a pleasure😊. What am amazing find. I really enjoyed it. The road looked pretty well used though.
Thanks so much for the kind words! Yeah its always nice to unplug and reset the system out in the wild.
-Johnny
@@johnnyoutwest win i was a kid of 13. My mom sister & myself spent 1.5m traveling Utha and 9 other states. I was from Rhodesia then Zimbawe. Now known as Zimbabwe.
I loved it
Amazing! New video just went live yesterday, let me know what you think!
i read early expeditions that say those marks/petroglyphs are actually the mark of different tribal chiefs. that mark boundaries for hunting or control of the area. like those at the great cave. jonathan carver 1760
That's interesting, and seems reasonable. Good to know.
Interesting, thanks for watching!
-Johnny
What a find🙌🏻Keep it protected♥️
Thanks for watching!!
-Johnny
If these sites are on federal land or in a national park, they have probably been investigated by many others who choose to leave them as they are. Its illegal to disturb them.
He said in the begining that they were on private land, had they been accessible by the public they would have been destroyed long ago.
Let's get something straight.
Very soon the Federal Government will have to relinquish its holds on public lands because the federal government is ONLY ALLOWED to possess military reservations, and sea port lands. The federal government also can oversee the reservation lands of our Native American People, but in no way are they allowed to dictate to the Tribes what they can or cannot do on their lands including gambling (thats a different tale). Some lands are National Parks, and under the law (constitution, the highest law of the land) the Federal Government is NOT allowed to impede any CITIZEN (foreign born persons are excluded from most rules, and must have visas to even be in the country,unless they are naturalized, but thats thankfully going to change very soon) from using and enjoying that land.
In cases of mining operations, the current regulations require that people follow a simple process to register mineral claims, and when mining operations have concluded, the land has to be Restored to a reasonable condition (it has to look really good or they will find themselves spending all of the money they made restoring and defending themselves in court, so as not to become a Blight, Or an Eye Sore, or create a toxic 'bomb' in the future (like what happened in the San Juan River a few years ago when an abandoned mining operation from the 1800's collapsed,, and sent toxic water into the pristine waters of the San Juan.)
Additionally, public lands can be used for cattle grazing, which is a very good thing because the large heards of bison, and elk no longer contribute their dung to fertilize the ground, and churn it into the ground with their hooves. So cattle grazing Is A Very Good Thing For our National grasslands.
The BLM will most likely be restored to what it was like in the Early 1900's:
A few offices and a small contingent of personnel. The USFS were the eyes and ears for the BLM, and their need of a larger staff was unnecessary.
Boy how Obummer changed our government into a Bureau of sub bureaus.... that's a trick from the earlier soviet union....
Things will go back to the way they were soon.
Anyways, keeping this a secret is a very good thing, and on our Family Ranch in Colorado(a genuine Spanish Collonial Land Grant in the San Luis Valley) we have many places where our ancestors left their sign and possessions. There are actually baskets, sandals, pottery, and a lage pile of chert was left for future tool making in one place. The chert came from over a hundred miles away! It must be of special quality, I guess. I don't knapp stone, but a couple of my cousins still like the old ways and knapp stone for arts and crafts fairs, and even go into elementary schools to demonstrate this when they are asked.
I know this was long and wandered a lot, but the bottom line is this:
DO NOT TAKE INDIAN SIGN.
Be respectfu,l and if you are caught taking these items you can get many years in prison.
If you get caught on private land, you might lose your life, and that's not a joke. People who take such things have no respect for life anyway, it's obvious, so good riddance in my opinion.
@@markhughes2611
God Is Great
Beer is Good
And People Are Crazy...
Ignore the ignorant and leave them alone to their unremarkable lives.
@@davidcisneros1429 Which of the over three thousand gods are you referring to?
Prints? Tracks, maybe? Lol just mess’n w/ you. I appreciate you bringing us a long. Ty very much Gents!
Thanks for watching! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
Great video, research, and photography. Keep it up man!
thank you brother!
These guys are excellent, like to see more of them.
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-Johnny
We don't know what the weather was like 500, 1,000, or 5,000 years ago. 200 years ago, a river ran through Tucson, AZ year-round. supported large pecan forests. today it is a desert wasteland. just look at how the weather has changed in the last few years. now, imagine millennia. we just don't know. I have been to countless sites like this over the past 73 years. just when you think you figured it out, a discovery will occur that changes everything.
Yeah really appreciate you raising this point, hadn't really considered this much
Very well done, thank you for sharing.
Love the drone to selfie footage!
Thanks so much Collins! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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Dope 👍🤠
thanks for watching!
Just found you guys....I WILL BE WATCHING....love the respect for those precious artifacts....YEA BABY
Thank you so much for those kind words!! Really appreciate you...should have a new video out next week. Stay tuned! turn on notifications if you havent already!
-Johnny
ThOSE petroglyphs mean RUN 🏃
Great stuff. Thank you for sharing your discoveries. Great channel.
Thanks so much for those kind words! Means a lot
-Johnny
If you contacted a local University or museum archaeology & anthropology department, they could provide the best resources to preserve and protect these artifacts. Additionally, people may gain a better understanding of a lost culture, through proper documentation, cataloging, and studying the land and artifacts. They would have the best resources to government agencies to protect and preserve this hidden gem. I would hate to see such beauty destroyed by people treasure hunting, or compromised in any way. What an amazing find…what a thrill to have experienced such a pure piece of American history as you did!
Thanks for watching!
-Johnny
Do not mention anything to established bodies.
museum def not. I lost all respect for them after seeing how they act and treat human remains.
@@GreenTara1234 shut up
@@greg5083 source?
You fellas are real fortunate to have one another to hike like that and explore because I wish I was young again to be able to experience things like that very fortunate you are. Stay blessed and safe fellas.
Agreed Darrel, thanks for the nice comment. More ancient adventures coming soon, hope you stick around!
-Johnny
nice vid, watch out for the mountain lions.
Thanks for watching! lol always on the lookout
I love it that you have such deep and passionate interests in the outdoor world!
Thanks so much for those kind words! New video coming next week, stay tuned.
-Johnny
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It was NOT "an oasis", but an "arm" of Lake Anasazi, the third of the western "great lakes", along with Lake Lahontan and Lake Bonneville. These bodies of water would be the dregs of the inland sea that once surrounded an ancient (very, very) polar location (near Navajo Mountain). The region east of the Wasatch Front, and west of the Rocky Mountains, was inundated by a massive flood that came from the water course traversing the western edges if the Old North American Craton (ONAC), along the eastern side of what would become the Colorado Plateau, a "fractured" craton left over from an earlier version of Earth.
The water remained for more than three millennia, before the last of it drained away down the Grand Canyon, on its way to the sea. Some Anasazi lived in Glen Canyon, until they died out, but most Anasazi packed up and left, in search of greener pastures. There distant ancestors, the Navajo, Zuni, Tonto O'Odham, and Apaches, would return a few hundred years later, to take up permanent residency. The story of the brave adventurers, first to venture into a "virgin" land, is one of unsung bravery, in the face of desolation, privation, and an uncompromising climate. Few of us would be able to match their success, existing with no support system, no diversions, and no rest for the weary, from the demands of survival.
I appreciate the detailed history lesson. Still so much I have yet to learn about the bones of our country.
-Johnny
@@johnnyoutwest There is another You-Tuber who has made videos about Lake Anasazi (one calls it "Lake Hopi", but the Hopis were much later arrivals).
This was one of my shorter replies. I've been researching the stories of the ancient past (before the end of the 8th Century BC) for most of the last 50 years, The narrative of the people who became the Anasazi, until they "disappeared", is one of courage, in the face of desolation and destruction, stamina, in the face of privation and loss, and determination, in the face of mind-boggling events and crushing setbacks.
It is a tale of bravery we don't give thought to, when we look at the ruins scattered about the Southwest. They adapted to changing conditions modern humans have never had to face,, even in our worst moments. The events that created the American West were titanic, leaving the few, surviving humans frightened, and scattered, alone on a proto-continent with only their wits to guide them.
Incredible...I will definitely look into that. Appreciate your expertise
What an interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching.
Really appreciate your kind words! glad you liked it. New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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That one pictograph of the upside down man was most likely a picture of someone falling from there I would imagine
Thats what I was thinking too
Very impressive, thanks for taking us along. Stay safe.
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-Johnny
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The upside down smaller figure quite possibly could represent a child who fell from the top.
yeah very possible
OR A WARNING TO INTRUDERS OF THERE PERIL
It’s a warning - use the ladder and don’t be stupid- that’s why they keep emphasizing the ladder symbol and the guy falling on his head because ladders are for sissies-he thinks
It looks more shamanic. Like a fallen god or tribal shaman. I dont think children would have been assigned an anthropomorphic figure.
@@danielnelson6971 Yea, he had caribou looking antlers and the falling god is a widespread, old god in MesoAmerica.
Glad your video came across my feed, very nicely done. It really felt like a TV quality episode. Good luck in your future.
Thank you for those super kind words, really means a lot. Hopefully will have a new video up this week, stay tuned.
-Johnny
So good!
Thanks so much for the kind words!
-Johnny
Waw what an incredible place . Amazing content 👏🏼
Thank you man, really appreciate those kind words!
Good job guys, I've been dying to see that canyon, and going along with u has made that the trip of a life time. Thank u
Thank you so much for the kind words my friend! So glad to hear you enjoyed it. More western adventures coming soon, be sure to turn on notifications so you don’t miss them!
-Johnny
Mr. Ellis. I recommend that you use the indigenous names for the people and artifacts you study. Likely, that government scout Freemont never saw these people let alone cared about them. Use of whiteman names to describe native people is highly disrespectful. Enjoyed your travels. Keep on it.
According to the Dine' oral history (Navajo) .. the "Fremont" Indians had LONG before, joined the Dine'. Over 700 years before the Fremont expedition found the ruins of their past inhabitant dwellings.. They joined because of the cannibal slavers .. the Ana Sa a' Zi ... "the different people" ... began raiding them and taking them to be slaves, sacrifices and food.
How would you learn the name that the people used? How would you know what the people called and area or a rock, etc? Understanding that other people don’t know or don’t need to know some things that the people know is just a given. Don’t take his lack of knowledge personally. Question - do you know the meaning behind the name of the place o live? No you don’t.
@frankedgar6694 Frank yes I know the history of the town name I live in. But thanks for answering the question for me. Taking an interest in such things is called research and respect. Much as an author calling a tribe by their traditional name is.
PC sucks in all its forms.
When the park service was developing Tuzewoot, having no idea what to call the ruin, they asked the Navajo and the Hopi, neither of which is related to the ancients by culture or DNA, to suggest a name. Then they picked the one they thought sounded best. Out of respect, for whatever bogus names are worth.
cool thanks for bringing me along.
take good pics of the art and sharing them w/ the local natives cause they can tell u what they mean.
Thanks for respecting the past young man.
Thanks so much for the nice note! More western adventures coming soon.
-Johnny
Love the videos maybe look into catching on to what the petroglyphs usually mean.
The circle could be life or astronomical . Not eyeballs or a maze.
And the human figures are usually shamans with different headdresses. Not aliens sorry boys.
Think outside the box put yourself in their place their time. great work I love the videos. And I agree with some of the other comments do not expose the locations
Hey Lisa thanks so much for your input! Yeah I agree, I want to put some research into the meanings behind the art. So far I have been mostly going off of my interpretations but it would be nice to look at some of the archaeological data and see what others have concluded. Stay tuned, more historical explorations coming soon.
Well done lads. A most enjoyable adventure.
Thanks for watching friend!
-Johnny
Wow! How beautiful and historic! I am now too old and with health issues so I cannot do this sort of thing myself, so I thank these two young guys for all of their hard work and for filming it so that I too can see it.
Thanks for those kind words! So glad to hear you enjoyed it. More historic adventures coming soon!
-Johnny
I find this all fascinating cuz we know so little about them I like listening to the oral history of the Native Americans to figure out more. What I can't figure out is why they were so far behind the rest of the world. The rest of the world had Advanced farming by this point the Greeks had came and went all the engineering philosophy Etc. The pyramids were built all over the world. The Acropolis was made. Terrace irrigation all over the the world to climatize crops. Mexican Central American and South American pyramids have been built math technology. And these people are living in mud caves on the side of cliffs hiding for their lives. I just want to know why? I think they were either fighting from each other or those red-headed Giants the Native Americans mentioned that they found the skulls in the Lovelock cave. That the Smithsonian had the guy burn in there incinerator in the basement.😢 yeah that really happened when the guy really admitted it I watched the documentary. I know I'm rambling but I've been watching this stuff from as long as you been alive
Yeah thats an interesting point, really appreciate you bringing this up. Im curious now too. Perhaps they were just generally resistant to modern ways. You see societies today like Amish folks who intentionally live in a preserved fashion, avoiding modern technology. Maybe they wanted to maintain a simpler style of life?
@@johnnyoutwest I think they're more cavemen like honestly. As far as the kivas those round structure pits that's high engineering. I think those are descendants from the remnants of atlanteans
I don't want to comment on a bad comment, but seeing that it expresses a common sentiment, someone should debunk this bigoted assumption. As you can see, this ancient civilization isn't just superior to the American one, where average person is well below the level of intelligence of a preschool child in a traditional society, where children aquire a level of fitness, social, technological or survival skills that a normal person never does. As far as building pyramids, a lost art or civilization that hasn't yet been discovered or attempted with the normal technology, to these savages was not a problem like it is for the modern man. The modern man needs these great monuments to ego and supremacy, trying to outdo each other and the ancients, trying to feel great or at least great again by repeating their feats on the Vegas strip. Tough luck, but even cheap imitations draw crowds, a wonder for such low lives with lowest expectations as Americans. But these cliff dwellers had no use for the pyramids and nowhere to put them in these steep canyons. Besides, to build on such a scale takes thousands, the land couldn't support such population. The climate fluctuates, so for a while there flourished a much bigger population, as evidenced by these great building projects, but these were abandoned once the climate got drier. Also, since Americans have no clue about civilization, civilization isn't science and technology, but the opposite; science and technology is the alternative to civilization, enabling ignorance and evil. As they say, it takes a pueblo(village), civilization is the social order, the community, what's absent in a modern, scientific, individualistic society, society of selfishness, ignorance, personal or private interests, rights or values. But the ancient man had no democracy, so we see them as inferior, subhumans, because they had no constitutions or institutions of privilege and supremacy, God-given rights and liberties, they had to work and be good at it, meritocracy was the order of the day, and still is for the illegal aliens, subjected by democracy as its subservients or the working class, the illegals aren't just the progeny of the pueblo, but their living culture.
@chile19275 I personally seen three at UFOs two different occasions broad daylight right over Van Nuys airport with my friend who took a picture of it. Clear as day the classic hubcap shape. I personally know of two people who were abducted buy aliens and who left Circle gridlock patterns on their bodies and they took video of the spacecraft on both their iPhones. I was on a Believer before I saw all this. You don't have to believe me you didn't see it with your own eyes I did.
First time here. Enjoyed it . Amazing nature and culture and i like what you said that we shoild respect cultures which i see is lacking even we see stolen items from all over tge world in British museum. . Thank you for sharing raw natural piece of nature emotions from this beautiful meadow.
Thanks for those kind words, means a lot! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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It's not too remote with a well traveled 2 track road you've been walking.
It required an hour plus drive over a mountain pass on a rugged dirt road. The road there is for archaeologists as this is a protected space. May not be remote to a coyote, but to your average person it sure is remote. If you got bit by a rattle snake out there, you’d be in a pickle.
So, where does the road go? A dig?@@johnnyoutwest
@@CatSmith-me8tf not entirely sure. we weren't able to see where the road ends as we had to turn back after hiking around 6 miles.
99.9% of sites have already been located and catalogged years ago. Every University archaeology department has a confidential data base of every site and is kept from the public for obvious reasons. Enjoyed the video. Here's two that are exellent. DESERT DRIFTER and ENIGMA CLANDISTINO.
It’s private property the owners do not want people driving on it.
This was private land?? Absolutely spectacular, stunning beauty. Hard to imagine this valley being private land - ranch land, 1800s?
It's unfortunate that we'll never know the precise History of the dwellings of the people. Can you feel vibes - the spirituality within?
Thank you for sharing this - but of its' location, don't give too much away!
Hope to see more ❤️
Thanks for the kind words! I 100% could feel the vibes. New video coming next week!
-Johnny
Cliff dwellers were possibly avoiding the giants at the time is my belief. Great video 👍🤠
Thanks so much for watching!
We really enjoyed watching this. Tony New Zealand.❤
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-Johnny
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What if the previous inhabitants didn't climb up from the ground, but instead climbed/rappelled down? I think it would be easier, somewhat safer, and use much less energy, than climbing upwards. I would search for a central location on the cliff face that could be used as a base camp. From here, one could make ladders that could be used to reach high places on the cliff face and possibly stored here. Once the artist arrives at this base camp , they could grab (x) amount of ladders needed, to get them to their chosen location.The ladders could also be used as temporary, boardwalks/bridges, that would allow them to cross difficult areas. This method would allow the artwork to remain undisturbed for great lengths of time due to the difficulty in accessing it. Cheers
Good thought. But seeing how the rocks fracture here, it might have been difficult but still possible to climb up from the floor. The rock pile shown sure does look like steps going up to to a panel that might have been more accessible in ancient times.
Yeah thats definitely an interesting point. If that's the case, they would have had to embark on extremely long hikes from their dwelling spaces down in the meadows to wherever those access points could have been. But it sure seems possible. From my perspective there were not many easy ways to get up to the rim once down in the canyon. appreciate you bringing this up!
Amazing. You guys are so blessed to be able to go on these adventures discovering your country's history 👍
Thank you for those kind words - means a lot! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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I think seed banks if one is willing to install at those heights to protect and keep cool. Maybe
Thats an interesting thought
Great Find!!!Thank You
Thanks for watching!!
-Johnny
At minute 25:25, the big white square outlined in red, seems to be pointing out the location of a P0RTAL.
Interesting, can you explain more?
This was one of the most compelling, so many questions with all the evidence of life there was unreal. It's unfortunate that we take for granted where we come from and what it took to get in this point in history. Would love to go on a hike with you one day .
Thanks so much for the kind words! Really appreciate you
-Johnny
I bet the native people cooled off in that creek, too.
I bet they did too! haha pretty cool
The pictograph that shows a person upside down and also painted with something red, I have seen on an archeological site and they said it was a memorial spot showing where and how the person died. So, the one you filmed shows someone may have fallen to their death or jumped to their death. If you ever go back to that place, get the above area in the video, it may just tell you what happened.
Wow man, amazing video, and can’t wait to see more! The graphs are crazy beautiful and probably mean a lot more than you think! Keep it up 👍🏻
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At 8:40, I believe you are right about the ladder. On top of the gliff that looks like a ladder it has a plant, probably corn carved on it. I believe that shows corn was in their grainery up there. That makes sense. The animals and people would take the food. Thank You for sharing with us. Around 17:00, I've never seen a petrograph like that with a dog. I've seen upside-down people, but not that big. Very cool place. I'd like to see those walls without the bushes and trees. The last wall of pictographs have people standing hand in hand. I see that a lot. They were happy and they worked together.
Yeah I think you're right about the corn symbol indicating the granary above. Thanks so much for the kind words!
-Johnny
Scaling those cliffs to stay somewhat safe is impressive especially thinking that the elderly men and women did also. Great video, thanks.
Pretty incredible. Thanks for the kind words! More ancient adventures coming soon, stay tuned.
-Johnny
Thank you for the respect you paid this wonderful place. Please do keep it secret for as long as you can.
Thank you for watching!
-Johnny
Great adventure. Awesome cinematography.
The large TV shaped pic looks like what some would call a UFO or vessel of some sort experienced by the people of that time. Giants are said to have walked the earth in the region. There were pictographs you showed of such possible events.
What a life these people lived.
Thank you!! Agreed, pretty amazing. New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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Fascinating video. thanks for this exploration. so exciting.
Thank you for those kind words - means a lot! New video coming next week, stay tuned
-Johnny
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