Why Are People Leaving Portugal?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- A Controversial Video About Portugal
Portugal is an amazing country, thats why it attracts a lot of foreigners. But locals are not very happy with that cause all the prices are increasing and the minimum wage doent follow. So what is gonna happen in a 5 years time?
Lets find out XD
00:00 Intro
02:06 The south and the problem
04:39 Braga and the immigrants
06:33 Abandoned houses
08:15 Porto and the real state
10:33 Lisbon, the big city
15:36 Life in small town
17:44 Conclusion
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Portugal is a great country to live, but terrible to work. The wages are terrible mainly because companies are heavily taxed, the same as people so its very hard do stimulate economic growth.
Regarding safety, people tend to confuse safety with low crime. Portugal has very low violent crime, but it has almost no safety. It is not a safe country. You do not see the police on the streets patroling and if you need them, good luck with that, there is no manpower or equipment. Our police forces are colapsing.
Some weeks ago i found a kitchen knife in my local kids playground, and decided to call the police for them to pick it up. Their anwser was that they had only one patrol car which was busy and could not come. ONE single patrol car for 20k residents in my area... its insane. This is the reality in most of the country, and now violent crime even thow is low it has been on the rise.
As a lone wolf who likes to do road trips and who is thinking about traveling throughout Europe during my retirement years, these tiny cities in Portugal are becoming more and more attractive as a possible homebase. I won't have any need for employment or entertainment. Low cost of living, a fast internet connection, basic utilities and a campervan for my road trips are all I need.
Stay in your country, we are sick of pensioners using our health system without contributing a cent.
@@kyungshim6483 low cost of living ?? 😳😂😂😂😂😂😂 Portugal has low QUALITY of living with HIGH European prices
@@rir79 But wouldnt he or she be paying for health insurance which would cover that and also be spending their pension buying stuff in Portugal which would be contributing the local economy, so thats a good thing
@@samjones7038 private health insurance means nothing when it comes to retirees from abroad, if you have a sudden heart attack or any emergency you will NEVER be sent to a private hospital, you will be sent to a public hospital which is paid by PT taxpayers, not that “expat” who has never contributed to our country. They have never paid any income tax or social security here. Why should I or any PT taxpayer pay for that bill with our low wages and huge income tax?? That is nonsense! Some countries in Europe make foreigners pay for public health insurance for at least 5 years, whether you use a public hospital or not. That is only what I consider fair on the system and especially on the local population. I think Portugal needs to do the same asap.
@@WhyWhyWhy-ms3we exactly! Lowest wages of Europe with a huge tax burden. Only affordable if you are getting money from another decent country to pay your bills.
I prefer places with fewer people, the abandoned villages would make an awesome retreat 🙏🏼💚☺️🌈
Stay in the UK, we do not need more people leeching our system.
Your documentary was very well done. I've visited Portugal twice so far. I really love that country.
Hello Rebecca, how are you doing?
Portugal is a tiny country, but its people are among the world's greatest!!!
Portuguese people are among the most infertile!!!
Prizes are increasing because of greedy investors and real-estate managers. Coastal areas are being pushed as good opportunities while in fact the best opportunities are outside of these areas, there you can buy something from the first owner, something that hasn't been sold with profit several times before, but you don't see them a lot on social media. Look a little bit further into the centre and you'll see a whole different world with all kinds of opportunities. This greed is eventually going to destroy the housing market in the popular areas and sales will drop hugely. Think good before you buy!
It's called gentrification. It happens every where, México city, Bogota, Lisboa, Madrid etc etc
It’s ok for you to make money but not anybody else?
@@jasoncrandall that's a very unintelligent assumption from somebody who doesn't even know me. Does it please you to talk to people this way on social media?
@@ErwinMaasI’m responding to what you wrote. Knowing you isn’t part of the equation.
@@onri-vk4cm Nah, its not only that. Portuguese are paying more taxes than foreigners or returners that live here. Where is the justice on that?
Besides that we an huge wave of immigrants coming here to work on very bad jobs that dont do nothing for the average portuguese, like working on tourism/mass production agriculture/food industry, etc while 30% of the people on fertility ages left the country.
Portuguese situation is very similar to South Korea or Japan. The old people took over the country, and they just want more taxes from the work class, while selling their houses for the foreigners and buying other expensive ones. And because they are more, they keep voting on very left wing politics and more welfare for them, while condemning the young ones to emigrate.
The Brazilian guy that left the country spook the truth, this country is doomed, is ruled by an old elite that has no notion off day to day struggles and they keep let foreigners come here to work for them almost for free or to sell them properties.
Hi. I’d lived here for soon 8 years and I think you are spot on the problem that Portugal has. Keep on what you’re doing 😊
Great info! We bought and love our life in Torres Vedras...Hidden gem!! Lisboa is unaffordable at this point and I hope the locals persevere!! Prices must come down...❤is with Portugal!!
Prices will not come down since so many RUclipsrs promote places where wealthy foreigners end up going and they then over spend since they think they are getting a bargain but could be getting a steal and that would help the less fortunate in the country and less fortunate who would love to move too but are out spent ❤
Magellan did not started his journey from Portugal but from Sevilla, Spain, in a mission for the spanish King. The portuguese King did not believed and did not want to finance his project. The whole enterprise was spanish excepting a couple of foreigners like the expedition leader Magellan. Please note this.
Good video. Interesting that you also shared info about the small place (pumbal/pombal) because that clarified things too.
Do you know? Portugal was the first nation to introduce red pepper to the Korean Peninsula via Japan. Koreans need to thank Kimchi Spice to Portugal.
Pity they dont apply it to their own cuisine.
We here in Kerala, India call Portuguese "parankikal"which literally means pepper people.
...we do.@@almira565
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@@almira565 But we eat a lot of cabbage 🥬
I would love to see more intergenerational support. The elders who know so much about the land, making wine, bread, fishing, curing meats, making pottery, crochette work. And what’s going to happen to all of the British who moved to Portugal 30 years ago and are now old with no one to take care of them? So many things to consider and most of us are shortsighted.
Very informative! Thanks for sharing this information.
Hey bro! You should be really proud of yourself. You have created an awesome video covering Portugal. I speak Portuguese too. And you english is very on point. Keep up the good work brother!
The EU ( incl Portugal ) has very poor future prospects. Huge welfare system
and growing number of pensioners over next 10 years. It's unaffordable .!
Importing an underclass of low pay , basically unskilled immigrants is NOT
a long term solution. The German economy is entering a long decline in
economic growth which is unstoppable . And the consequences will be very
unpleasant. . My advice : make the most of it now while it lasts. !!
What a deep sociological analisys!!!let's all emigrate to little Europe, Canada
I love Portugal .
Government is the problem not the solution. Where I live the government decided to bring down the cost of housing. The committed to building 200,000 houses. In the 6 years they have been in power and made all their changes we have seen the second highest rise in hose prices in the world,
Am watching this from Japan, very interesting my friend.
Great mini-doc. Portugal seems like a great place to visit. Not sure I will ever get to live there, but helps to see that it faces similar problems to my own city.
Real estate agent is even brazilian...not even a portuguese.
What difference does it make?
In fact, many young people are leaving because they can't afford a house. It's a huge problem.
@@pedropinheiroaugusto3220 only the old, the ancient and brainless remain in Portugal. Portugal gives nothing to anyone ( except its corrupt politicians) , Portugal only knows how to beg the EU for money
Reminds me of NYC. Its impossible to live in this area. Its rare to here a NYC accent. Everyone is either an immigrant from Central America or a well-to-do immigrant from suburban America. Rents are 4 times the minimum wage. Unless you're lucky to have parents who bought a home in Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx when no one wanted to live here, you have to be rich or live 4 to a one bedroom apt. Worse part is that NYC is getting rid of public housing and rent controlled apts. NYC keeps importing illegal immigrants to work for minimum wage and live 9 to a 2 bedroom apt. But how long can this last? I remember when NYC was a fun city that never slept and everything was cheap. Today everyone is angry, stressed out and restaurants and clubs are all closing up as they're arent enough rich people to visiting these establishments.
Also, many times the tax laws penalize people with second homes because they are considered “rich”, so when parents and grandparents die the families can’t keep the homes because of the tax burden.
So they sell them and get rich in money. What is the problem with that?
@@HansGrob DOnt speak about what you dont know... If you sell a house in Portugal, a big percentage of the sale goes mandatorly to the government. So its a bad deal to sell a house in Portugal..
I guess thats a Problem all Capital or big Cities in Europe have in common.
trie to rent a flat in Parague for example. Don't speaking of London, Paris or Barcelona.
True in the U.S. investors buy 5-6 rentals, driving up prices every 12 months. Im moving to southern Portugal for a year. Where are legitimate yearly rentals listed ?
Problem is that most of the colonizers cannot colonize any more and get rich on the blood and tears of the poor....😂😂😂
Good information , like your channel 🎉
Thank you for your courage in making this video. Thank you!
Thanks for all the info.... pity the 'background' music is so much in the foreground though.. had to 'mute' and activate subtitles.. but otherwise.. very informative
I want to visit both Portugal and Spain someday just to hang out and eat all the delicious food and drink your wonderful wine.
Go to Spain, we have way too much scammers in Gastronomie in Portugal
Lembra aqueles programas do canal Cultura do Planeta Terra de antigamente kkkk, boa Eliezer!
cool vid. please reduce volume of background music, it makes it slightly hard to hear you . cheers .
Magellan, Columbus, Vasco Da Gama were well aware the earth was round. That's why they sailed west in the first place hoping to open another route to the far east. They didn't bargain on the Americas being in the way.
Well every place there’s a abandoned place not only Portugal.
Sorry, but no, not like this. Portugal is a beautiful country, but many ruins.
Not a huge problem, but it's a fact.
Very beautiful cities and well maintained too in my opinion....porto, Lisbon, Coimbra, Aveiro, Fatima etc... would love to visit some day.🎉❤
Both my parents were born in Leiria, Portugal. My grandparents moved to Mozambique and then South Africa, where my parents then met, and my brother and I were born and raised in South Africa. Now, I moved to Australia with my wife and children. After my dad passed away, my mother has gone to Leiria to look after my grandmother as they left South Africa to go back to Portugal in the 90's. Needless to say, my wife and I could have gone to live in Portugal as we have citizenship, but I suppose growing up in South Africa, going to Australia was the option we chose being similar to how we grew up in South Africa. We both have family in Portugal and have visited it as children, but both of us didnt want to live there, the lifestyle is very different to the standard english way of living we got used to in South Africa and have now in Australia.
That sounds as if the English way to live is the best...I have holidayed in Australia, SA, UK (and 42 other countries) and believe me, it isn't. I also lived in the USA for 40 years where I moved to as a young teenager. I finally came back home to Portugal and wish I had done it sooner. Life in Portugal is safe, wonderful and beautiful. Many people may have difficulties, but boy...I sure saw tons of such in Sydney and Capetown to mention a few. Leiria now is a totally modern city with a very old history. I love it and it's a quite popular place nowadays.
@@patricksweeney5308 Right on.Totally agree and tks so much for your kind words. We certainly are not perfect and still have much to accomplish but we sure try.
I moved from Dublin Ireland to a village near Leiria. If you have a fairly decent salary (>1.5k ) and no rent or mortgage, this is the best place to live. Especially for families with children. Leiria has grown on me to be honest. There so much to do and honestly in terms of shopping, eating out it beats Dublin hands down. Not to mention the climate which is one of the best in Europe.
@@RobIn-ky4uz For sure, this place is really quite nice despite its money woes. I was born and grew up in Lisbon, and I had the best childhood. To grow up here Is a privilege to most. There is always something going on, the weather is sunny and lovely for 90% of the time, it is SAFE, travel is easy, food is good... honestly, two working even on a minimum salary can make it quite well, so I don't quite get why someone wouldn't snap up the chance to live here. Maybe they can't...God knows it took me 40 years to return having left as barely turned 13 year old, and to each it's own, but having travelled all over the world, all I can say is that I have seen so much worse. Life is not just about money in the bank, capitalism, and manicured infrastructures. I love Eire, it's so beautiful, but so cold, rainy, dark and expensive!! So thanks for choosing us. May you continue to be healthy and safe in Portugal!
I'm very pleased you at least had the opportunity to move to Australia. My husband and I tried to move to Australia years ago but we didn't have any luck. We now live in England ( worst nightmare of a choice ). It has been the worst 5 years of my life.
Nobody speaking in this video is actually Portuguese, everyone pretending to be Portuguese is actually Brazillian… very misleading content…
Lol😂 its true
And what's the problem of that? They didn't say they were Portuguese...
A Brazilian RUclipsr interviews Brazilian residents… what’s the issue? The cost of living is the same
Interesting and informative documentary, thank you, I'm from the UK but I know some people that have moved to Portugal
Very well done. Thank you. I would like to visit some day.
Thank You ! Very interesting Enjoy your life in safe Portugal and sleep well at night.
I've lived in rural Portugal since 2002. I've seen this country get better and stronger, year after year. In my little area, I've seen energy infrastructure vastly improved, mains water installed, internet expansion, roads widened and tarmacked. The list goes on and on. Houses renovated, house values increase exponentially. Local's incomes increasing steadily, modern car ownership increasing. I'm not looking at the country through rose coloured lenses, but my honest opinion is Life, health, affluence and leisure activities have improved year after year since we arrived.
The Marquis de Pombal rebuilt Lisbon - Pombal is his town. Greetings from another old dominion of Portugal - Goa - Estado da India.
Very informative video 🎉
Too much positive marketing . Standard of living is abysmal
you keep mentioning problems in your videos and creating titles for a quick click but love to be in Portugal and love the opportunity it has given you. Interesting positioning you have
I spent almost three months exploring parts of Portugal last year, and I was shocked by the prices of food stuffs in the supermarkets. I was on a budget myself, so I did most of my food shopping at small fresh produce markets to keep costs down. A packet of biscuits in Portugal can be 2x more than the same pack in the UK! There is little to no second hand book market in Portugal. So if say, a student was studying English, they would have to purchase brand new books - the books I saw were retailing at 13Euros +.
I met a few students who had made the decision to transfer their courses from Lisbon to a quieter area, to reduce their rental fees. I also encountered many migrant workers and students in hostels too. I too, enquired about the rental costs and the wages. Some mentioned their parents earning 700Euros a month, and having to save for many many years to be able to afford for their kids to go to University or college, purely because of the rental fees.
@@jaycee8553 yeah, it’s that bad right now. And you are right on the price of food, even in Spain it’s possible to find cheaper prices. Second hand books are almost exclusively an online market. We used to have some second hand book stores, but the rise in rent made them close down their business. Some landlords are asking for 4000€ to 5000€ in rent….
Pombal although much smaller than Lisbon and Porto is still a decent size city, there are many, many smaller cities and villages that are breathtaking as well as super inexpensive. There are of course little to no job opportunities but the quality of life can not be beat anywhere making then great retirement areas. We chose a small village about 60km south of pombal and feel as if we are two of the lucky few that get to live in this wonderful place.
The problem is with all of this remote workers people who come to big city like Lisbon and Porto because they wanna have fun and they are raising the prices for everything. They don’t wanna go to Little Village and live quite life and work on computer they want to have a nice café good food. They wanna go out they wanna hang out put the pretty picture on Instagram And that’s what screwed up Lisbon and Porto.
Check housing prices in Amsterdam for comparison...
@@so_what_else_is_new Dutch people need to complain of the housing in their homeland and Portuguese of the prices in Portugal. The Netherlands is the homeland of the Dutch, if you buy a house in Portugal saying that in Portugal it is cheaper, where will we go??? Please do your job and don’t compare apples to oranges and stay in your lane. Bye.
@@rir79 I can answer you with a lot of things that I won't. I just want to say that housing prices in Amsterdam are high because of the expats. The same as in Lisbon.
@@so_what_else_is_new the expats in Amsterdam are working for Dutch companies, which is not what is happening in Portugal. Most “expats” are working for companies abroad, so little little of their income is going to the standard Portuguese citizen. And BTW, it’s not expats it’s immigrants, that is what Portuguese people in the Netherlands are. I know some working there and I know how bad the housing is there and that they need to share housing most of the time. But what they bring in return is a lot more than what Portugal is getting from the retirees and “digital nomads”. To me both of these groups should have restricted access to Portugal. I also know you keep comparing apples to oranges. Both Portugal and the Netherlands need to fix the housing situation but their economic and social situation are different so a different approach is needed. Goodbye 👋
@@rir79 🤐
Its nightmare who is working here .....all people come for passport only then they move to better country....all immigrants do like this
Amazing video.
Thanks for your info good work
Dear tourists, don’t come to Portugal, just put your money in an envelope and mail it to us.
Lol
back at you. don't visit America just send money.
@@bn7441 why would we want to visit a country where so many people carry guns and use them??? lol
And address shall be just general - to Portugal?
As a Northern European, I think a lot of Portugese natives will return once they realize what life is really life up North. Sure, the wages are higher, but so is cost of living. And there's a lot more crime, increasing demographic and religious conflict, poverty, etc. Housing is unaffordable there too, which is part of why a lot of us moved to Portugal to begin with. The grass isn't always greener, I'm afraid. They'll be back. It's crazy that there are no taxes on abandoned houses. That's what's done in my country and at least that way you both improve the way neighbourhoods look, aswell as create more housing opportunities for young people to start families. I don't understand why this isn't done here.
Totally agree with the tax on abandoned houses!!!
As a Portuguese who wants to move to a Nordic country, I believe I fit perfectly to comment here, and please bare in mind that I am in no way criticizing your answer, this is just my perspective. Portugal is becoming unaffordable for Portuguese people, simply because salaries are not following rent, either by greed or market. The way I see it, you either live with somebody else or have an amazing salary, or a remote and lower salary but living in the interior. It is almost impossible for you to be fresh out of university and be able to afford a flat because even though your salary might be enough for rent, you have bills and food. The only people I know that are able to afford to be living alone, are people who already have a career established and are earning above average to be able to afford rent and the other essential things we need. With this hybrid regime we have for work at the moment ( not even counting professions that really require for you to be at your workplace ) you could move to a cheaper location but then most likely you would need a mean of transportation, most likely a car.. and then you would have more expenses. Of course the grass is not greener on the other side, and I know what it is like to live abroad as I am moving back to Portugal later in the year ( due to personal reasons at the company/country I am currently living in ), but even though I have a house to stay at which I dont have to pay rent, I am not planning on staying for long, because cost of living is through the roof at the moment. The reason I am planning on moving to a Nordic country is simply because that is something I have always wanted to try. I got some offers years back but they were offered at the wrong time. I have reliable people living now in Norway and Iceland that inform me what is really like to live there ( as a foreigner ) and from their perspective and market research, it is definitely a better move for me there. What I gathered from all my friends that live abroad when i speak to them, including the ones living in the Nordic countries, is that they will definitely not be back.
( I believe they are trying something at the moment related to the abandoned houses/flats, but I cannot guarantee that )
@@agostinhofmmatos Oh don't worry, I understand completely. And you are right, housing is unaffordable for young people. The problem that most people fail to understand, is that it's the exact same complaint in every other European country. Go on any UK forum or social media account and you'll see literally the exact same complaints as I see on Portugese forum or social meida accounts ... And the same in Belgium too, where I've also lived for decades and was looking into buying a house myself. So I know from first hand experience how much less you get for the same money in Belgium than you would in Portugal. In Belgium I would have to pay 250.000 for a complete dump with a tiny back yard, and it would need 50-100k in renovation work, so a seperate loan on top of a mortgage, which is already unaffordable. In Portugal, you can find a very nice starting house for 150.000 that might need 50.000 renovation work, and also much less regulatory requirements and taxes. Not to mention huuuuge plots of land!
I'm almost 40 now but for years I was considering getting a roommate in Belgium too, just because even with a decent wage, I couldn't afford a proper downpayment. I see the same complaints in Portugal.
I work remotely now and I'm only just starting so pay is lower, but I know I couldn't afford to live in a Nordic country, or I'd have to work myself to death to do so. Also I don't think their societies would be a good fit for me. I prefer southern mentality. (even with the downsides)
But it also depends where you are in life. I do believe that it was a good move for me to stay and work in Belgium for so many years until I was in the right place financially and mentally to move South, and I also firmly believe a lot of Portugese people will realize the same think eventually. Northern Europe isn't heading to a good place and I don't think a lot of Portugese people understand that, because they don't have the same problems. To many of us, if the only issue was housing, it would really suck but still be bearable. If you have high house prices on top of many other issues, then it becomes unbearable.
But I hope it works out for you! Perhaps those countries are a better fit. Good luck!
@@konraddobson As a Portuguese national living abroad let me tell you that you are completely wrong and that comparing the situation in Portugal to Belgium and Nordic countries is just damn stupid. We are straight up 3rd world in the European context right now. You have not had the consequences of 50 years of socialism/communism which was superseded by many decades of dictatorship. It is not only about housing, it is about our healthcare collapsing and doctors and nurses all leaving the country. Belgium keeps asking for doctors and nurses and many are going there. If these people settle and have a family there, they will stay wherever they have settled with their families. And we are actually aware of the increase in crime and migrant crisis, Portugal is suffering from it as well. Our newspapers keep trying to mask things but we know that violent crime has deeply increased also due to this unbearable wave of migration with no proper plan. Knowing the Portuguese as I know and having family that have moved abroad all I know is that none have come back, ever. And houses are at a point where not even earning more means you are able to afford one easily. In Portugal you earn money for years just to pay bills, you can hardly manage or save money as there is none available. What Portuguese look for in Nordic countries is great work/life balance. There is plenty of that in Sweden but none in Portugal. I know people working from 8am and getting home at 7pm or later with many unpaid extra hours. Portugal is a good place to visit swiftly, not to stay for too long.
@@rir79 And you havn't had the consequences of decades of mass immigration from third world countries, mainly North and Central Africa. Which is in part why countries like Belgium need all those doctors and nurses in the first place. But if you live in cities like Brussels, Antwerp, or Liege, then you'll know what that type of immigration does to a country. I agree Portugal is a mess in terms of wages, but it's still a lot better in many other areas. The crime levels are much lower, and it's still largely a homogenous country that takes pride in their culture and history, and has huge amounts of beautiful nature and cheap land. I hear you. It sucks. And it sucks for a lot of people up North aswell, which is why we come South as you go North. I just think in time, you will realize wages are not all that matter. In fact, I'm came to Portugal fully intent on earning less, because I've come to value those other parts of life more. But I have managed to save a little bit. In recent years I saw a lot of Portugese people coming to Belgium, and there's no doubt in my mind most will return to Portugal after 5-10 years. Some won't, and those will be the vocal minority.
Very nice thanks ❤😊😊😊
Well, I stayed in Villamoura-Quarteira for 3 years, I used to get E3000 euros in the summer and 1/2 that in winter, selling hot dogs and burgers !!!
Which brings me to my question: If Tourism $ or Euros are so high why are the locals not getting richer off the revenues?
Hope to visit Portugal and Lisbon soon.
Most beautiful countries are getting empty because of emigration. But people in USA are moving out of big cities back to countryside and starting their permaculture and self sufficiency , they grow their own healthy food and raise animals on the farm .
High quality video thank u
Homestead is living off the grid. Must be nice but I prefer a small city with all type of services. I don't like lonely deserted villages.
Very good video
The wrap up at the end of ur videos is awesome man. I’ve always dreamed of moving to Portugal or Spain so ur content is scratching that itch. Maybe Ireland can teach Portuguese how to bring in better paying jobs but in the meantime Portuguese ppl have a lot to offer and I’m certain they will overcome these obstacles just as they have done since the Roman times. Thanks for the content
No, we will not perservere, we already lost our country to foreigners. Too late by now. Stay in your country and please do not make our lives even more difficulty. Our health and education are already collapsing so people coming in will keep making things worse.
@@lewiskinser8320 As a PT person who already lived in Ireland I don’t agree we should learn anything from the Irish case. Counties with no proper hospitals, horrible transportation system and loads of former coworkers of mine (Irish BTW) were leaving to go and live in Australia and New Zealand as buying a house is impossible. The IRish GDP is not reaching the Irish Population, only the big corporations.
Fascinating, thsnks
Tons of abandoned houses but they're all too expensive for what you get, usually. 😬
Those prices in Pombal are not cheap! You can buy houses in Germany and The Netherlands for 100k if you're not picky. That's the problem with Portugal, prices are the same as the ones from northern European countries while salaries are much lower. 1200 euros is welfare level in The Netherlands.
Plus taxes are much higher in Portugal too, sadly. Health care is good in Portugal, though, and food is a bit cheaper, specially restaurants, something I don't use in The Netherlands.
@@TheSimArchitect healthcare is not good, at least the public healthcare which all Portuguese people pay with their taxes. Emergency services closed during the weekends and waiting times of more than 14 hours with elderly people waiting there for too long in a room with no food and no fresh air. That is not what I should call good.
@@TheSimArchitect Food is actually cheaper in Spain, Ireland and the UK, even Germany is cheaper.
Thank you for your video. It’s difficult to understand how all those buildings are being abandoned. The population of Porto is 240,000 . The UK imports four times that every year and the weather is awful!!
I'm moving to Nunavut. I'm going to hunt polar bears and walruses. I'm going to fish Arctic char. I'm going to eat muktuk. I like the Arctic. I don't like hot climates.
good to know bro
The Ancient Kemetians from Alkebulan were the first sailors in the world discovering foreign lands, not Portugal!
Who said Portuguese were the first sailors to discover foreign land? Do you even know world history? England discovered Ireland and Scotland waaaaaaay before Portugal started the sea adventures, and that's just an example...
Amazing ❤❤❤❤
Awesome❤
you are wrong, ist not a nightmare for locals. I love my country,
It can be bad for people who only make a minimum wage and can’t afford now the house they used to afford before so many wealth foreigners came.
Algarve is a nightmare
Totally correct re the Algarve, this is true
Very interesting video, thank you very much.
@@JuanMoreno-wo5ybforeigners are not the cause but the result. Blame your politicians.
Grande evolução! Eu via os teus videos a vender paçoca e brigadeiro na rua! Posso garantir que a qualidade doss teus videos evoluiram mesmo muito! Parabéns! Continua💪
good work
Help me understand. If rent is so high why don't the abandoned houses get fixed up to be rented out?
most are way beyond repair
Man vc é indentico a um maluco aqui no Brasil
A maioria dos zucas tem cara feia e são mestiço, o rapaz n é nem uma coisa nem outra.
É ele mesmo do Vida Infinda. Agora vai para uma audiência maior em inglês. O mundo vai para Portugal com Eliezer. Vai acabar sendo condecorado pelo presidente de Portugal por promover o turismo para Portugal.
Because now everybody is going to *Colombia: the Most Bio-diverse Country in the World by Km², and 2nd. by extension, after Brazil.*
*Colombia is called the Country of 1000 Rhythms, because it has 1,025.* Very rich musical culture.
1000 Euro a month is more than I earn in England and the cost of living is higher
Isnt minimum wage 1400€ in UK?
it is sadly the same in most countries right now. the wages of your country do not afford you the ability to live a good life anymore. and it does not feel good to abandon your home country to live better in a cheaper country because you cause worse problems for locals. but what can you do?
Yep ! Portuguese move to Germany and UK. Brazilians move to Portugal . Venezuelans move to
Brazil ..??? Where does the merry -
go - round stop ?
@@jakew1362 Portuguese people have only one homeland and that is Portugal. Being forced to leave is awful and tbh you are trying to compare apples to oranges. The US is still a country where people live in states where income tax is low and life is still affordable. People in the US are not being forced out, they are just looking for a cheaper place to stay. If you want to have a lower pace of living and a new philosophy of life, try to bring it to your homeland instead of creating issues for the natives of other countries. Most people coming to live in Portugal are not working for Portuguese Companies. So you want to live I Portugal, but deep down you don’t wish to live like the Portuguese, isn’t it??? I understand that, but if you want to live here, you need to have your income tax to go to Portugal, not the US, otherwise why are you here? The crisis of the Portuguese youngsters leaving is that most are now highly qualified and working and paying taxes abroad as the rent+food combo is unaffordable to the Portuguese. Big difference.
@@jakew1362 so “what can you do”??? Try claiming land in your homeland and settle there when you can afford land there. Most people from the US and UK I know have more than enough money to buy land in their countries but somehow prefer to go to a country where English is not even the official language and “settle” there. This is a downright invasion prompted by the greediness of foreigners and a government that hates its own citizens.
I like Lisbon, I felt that it’s a nice city with lots to offer. Restaurants had delicious Portuguese cuisine. I would like to visit Portugal again 👍❤️
Being a Portuguese myself that is currently living in the UK, I can confirm all that. Is unfortunate, but is very true.
Next you have to meet meet real Portuguese people. I can show you
Great music!!
Professionally made. Congratulations
4:10 I hear her saying: 2’300.-, not 1’300.- Euros?
The smaller cities would be ideal for retirement since it's affordable to buy or rent. Thanks for the video.
This is not true, every day more people move to Portugal
I think you should leave the old house alone. They are not abandoned they belong to someone, they have history, they have issues, and are part of the history of their family. They will attend to it when they are ready, and not because you or the EU said so!
looks like they've waited hundreds of years to be ready. LOL. Can they even be repaired at this point? some look beyond hope.
I watch channels where young people have settled in abandoned farms or small holdings in areas like Castelo Branco. They work hard on the land, they love the life, and Portuguese neighbours are very friendly. Mostly they went there before Brexit. What is the feeling among the Portuguese about these foreigners?
''could be anything like a shopping mall, something really cool'' are you for real?? , another horrible shopping mall to deface the streets of a beautiful city is the very last thing that is needed anywhere
my mother and i wanted to live in Portugal and retire. but, with being almost double taxed we will make barley the min. to live there. most people are charging over 1400 eros for rent and it would be cheaper to stay in America. a lot of us are in the same boat. the only people living large are the wealthy investors. I don't think the locals know that the non investors are in the same boat they are.
Same here -we are from Germany and had planned to retire in Portugal but they changed it (I think they don’t want only older people there ) investors in big style is what they want BUT the countryside is mostly empty!!oh well we will keep looking were we will go !
@@testerintester864the countryside is almost empty? I am from the north of Portugal and can assure you
there are many people living in the countryside and smaller towns! The cost of rent is also cheaper than if you move to a bigger city!
Go to Portugal and see for yourself regarding what the costs are and you might be pleasantly surprised!
Great video but I still don't understand why rents are so high when there are abandoned houses. Here in the UK, especially the south where I live, rents are also way too high but we don't have many abandoned houses.
Hi. I don't live there, but I was in the process of moving there. But the...feelings I was getting was that the sentiment was changing. Anyway I did lots of research, had an immigration lawyer, real estate person etc.,
So there is drain on the youth. The young people are doing (at least) 2 things; moving from more rural areas to larger city areas. And they're leaving the country! They're going everywhere else in Europe. So it's pulling the workforce/and consumer base/tax base. The country does have a substantial tourism base and immigration base of funding--but my feeling is that those funds keep the country afloat, but it's not what's needed for major property restoration and maintenance.
Next, abandoned properties in the rural areas are super high. Entire villages. And it's high in the cities also, but with wages being low but development costs being high-it's a vicious circle. The only people who can really do those renovations are the expats coming in--which they were doing. But, then those rehabbed properties have high rent, which the locals can't afford (see, the low incomes referenced earlier). So, it's my opinion there are multiple vicious circles.
They also killed the "Golden Visas" which both contributed to renovated properties, but also high rent. But the bulk of immigrants were not the Americans or British--it's actually the Chinese, Indians, and Brazilians. Even though the Algarve has a really large Brit community/tourism numbers.
I have one other opinion, but it's regarding the UK. I've watched channels like "turd town" and others where they show many, many towns and villages going bankrupt. And tons of people on food assistance and boarded up main streets. I think this guy @Tom_Nicholas just did a video on it. I don't point this out to say "your country is just as bad," but to say economies/youth movement/jobs have these sort of strange effects that are hard to predict or reverse. I'm in the US and LEAVING, because there's so many different KINDS of problems.
@BobKnight-mm2ze Hi Bob, thanks for that detailed explanation. It really makes sense now and you have highlighted what is probably a global problem. It is true that in Cornwall in the UK there are so many second homes and holiday lets and the locals can't afford the rents. Also the difference in property prices between north and south is massive.
What it really boils down to is the growing gap between rich and poor and young people seeking a better life in the cities which seems to be happening everywhere.
I can't afford to buy a property here and may end up moving to Nigeria. But that's another story!
All the best with your endeavours!
@@geogoringHaha, trust me, I'll be traveling to that area too as I look for the place where I plant myself. The plan is "up and down" Europe/Africa for a few years.
But I think you're probably right; the world is moving in a sort of Feast or Famine direction. I think it's a lot of factors, but this transition from sort of industrial age society to a sort of snowballing techno/information thing. Long story short; I think or tech is outpacing are ability as a society to adjust at the same pace is maybe at the core of it. And money. Everything comes back to money. Sigh...
@BobKnight-mm2ze Yes that is how the world is going. I think some people want us to believe it's all about money but actually that's a lie. I try to see limitations positively in that they can channel us in the direction we need to go, rather than what satisfies our desires which can be harmful to us. So all is good, brother!
problem is that this dude has no fkin idea what he is talking about. Rents are high mostly in big cities as everywhere around Europe. And what makes it high for example in Lisbon is supply and demand, to much ppl want to live here, try to live in london center and see how much u have to pay. Its just someone who hasnt enough information to make a video about the subject.
As an English man I would love to go to beautiful Portugal 🇵🇹
Kinda telling that you couldnt find a portuguese person to interview, they were all brazilian...
Plot twist, the video was filmed in Brazil due to budget constraints
altoughh you didnt get everything right (especially pombal location on map), you did a great job exposing the problems for foreigners wanting to move here. there are other huge problems culturaly that could be adressed too, like the desertification of the interior. if you think Porto has many abandoned houses, try Guarda Covilha, Castelo Branco, there you can see the real extent of the problem
Im portugiese from Lisboa.and I agree totally with you...😢
I think you could get even deeper on the issue, as there is many reasons that make the Portuguese people leaving. Also would be nice to speak with the people on top of this madness.
The population of Braga at 200k residents is the size of a small town here in the UK. Interesting place though. I've holidayed only on the Algarve but intend to visit Lisbon on my next holiday.
Oxford and Aberdeen are small towns in your books then...right
@@RobIn-ky4uz with exception of glasgow and edinburgh, the rest of scotlands cities are like small towns lol
The housing situation in Portugal is complex and unclear. Other than the massive disruption by Covid it seems like terrible planning in general. The land laws which change from region to region has a big impact. Inconsistent red tape. Thousands of properties on land not zoned for habitation. So you can't renovate or invest fully in them. Slow moving Government departments. No forward planning to create more available land for Portuguese citizens. No real property development outside and close to Lisbon for locals. No funds to renovate old buildings. Some of those old buildings should just be cnocked down and rebuild in the traditional style. Hundreds of houses not registered as they are rented without contracts. Portuguese people need tax breaks or incentives to start new businesses and to renovate properties. Stop the second home taxation. Tax is still too high on the lower lvels. Portugal does not have a very diverse economy. That's why the Government need to incentivise to get small and medium manufacturing on the go.
15:50 I knew of the Marquis de Pombal, so I figured there had to be some locality of that name...
8 months after, the number of foreign citizens has increased.
Cool vid thank you/
People are leaving since 2014, as the salary at the time was 430€ or below while the house rents were at 500€ (which became gradually higher), forcing people to either leave, which most did it to Countries like UK, France and Luxemburg, or get into relationships so the couple together could pay the rent and sustain their leaving (at least one of the two must have a full time job).
By the way, forgot to tell that Algarve (South Portugal) has a major problem where every restaurant, grocery store, bar, pub, hostel, etc does the most blatant form of tax evasion, as they don't allow any form of credit card payment, forcing you to pay with physical money. Needless to say that 0% goes to the state. This is a kind of irony as the prime minister in 2016 said that Portugal is rising back with the help of tourism, when the very toursim itself evades taxations.
@@polvocorrupto true! Cash only places are a huge issue. I always start by asking if they take cards, if they say they don’t, I leave. Simple as that.
My friend , Magallanes departure from Sevilla commanding an spanish expedition finance by the king of Spain Charles I and a rich spanish entrepreneur. He was humiliated by the king of Portugal to the extend he turned to the spanish king, change his name to the spanish version and became subject of the spanish crown. The discovery of that path to the indian ocean has nothing to do with Portugal, besides the fact that yes Magallanes was originally Portuguese.
Magalhães had nothing to do with the discovery of the naval path to India, that was Vasco da Gama 20 year prior to Magalhães voyage.
Are you drunk? What does Magallanes have to do with the sea path to India? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@YesIJohnFox Pacific ocean. Jejeje my mistake.
I'm from algarve, and I can barely afford to live here. I'm a doctor btw...
I can see you are proud of Portugal me to. I am not Portuguese but it's home (Coimbra) I love it.
You said "hot place", and it's not like that at all. Well, besides not using the word 'warm' instead, you didn't even mention that harsh winters are very common in certain regions, and also how windy it is even in the south all throughout the year; and if it's sunny it's windy; also there's more people suffering from cold in Portugal than in northern Europe.
*the Crimean bridge is the longest bridge of Europe now
The ancient Egyptians already proved that the Earth was not flat, and Eratosthenes already calculated its site with 1% accuracy in the 3rd century BC.
👍👍 ! Yes. What a genius he was !! Using only a piece of stick
and the position of the Sun he
figured it out almost exactly..
What a guy..!!