First time using a DAT recorder!
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- Finally I got a DAT recorder to try out the Digital Audio Tape system myself. This video documents me making my first (test) recording.
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That's awesome. I haven't seen a DAT deck in probably 20 years. Thanks for sharing. Frank
Excellent format. Allowed uncompressed 44.1khz 16-bit audio recordings. Not like dcc which was PASC, a predecessor to MP3. Or minidisc which had sonys own atrac compression format.
I bought my first DAT machine in 1988 while I no longer have that machine - I still have the very first DAT tape I recorded still works today 29 years later!
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That's one great advantage of tapes.
I love DAT recording and play back, as well as MD great functionality, But what really blows my mind is recording on VHS HI FI for audio.
28termite it's really that good?
I know this is an old post but yeah HIFI VHS audio quality is excellent especially for audio laid down on a $2-$3 six hour blanks. I still use them to this day because I was catching hell getting parts for DATs and Mini Disc recorders. DCC didn't go to well with my homies back in the day but I tried them all.
Good video, nice to find someone who can talk!👍
DAT's nice...
As a teenager in the 90s MiniDisc was THE cool audio equipment to own. DATwas too expensive, though.
PumpkinStrikesBack yep I remember those early format wars. I didn't realise at the time that DAT was uncompressed.
I have a DAT recorder I bought from a studio musician. I've recorded a few demos on it. Love it. Also have a Sony minidisc. Collectors items for me.
Alamir Ali nice and easy demonstration of a dat cassette recorder. I wish I had one myself. What is the difference in soun d quality between a dat and a normal old analogically recorder? Can you give me a simple explanations ? Thanks very much.
Congrats on your first DAT machine. I've owned my DAT deck since 2006 with a mint Sony DTC- A6 which I have read was a mid-end model. Bought it from a local thrift store for about $10.00 {USA} . These units are delicate so I would reccomend buying a dedicated head cleaner you can buy from eBay.
There's a button below the display named Margin Reset - If the db meter starts blinking it means the a/d circuit clipped the source signal. In this case lower the recording level, press the Margin Reset button and try again until there's no peak signals above 0.0db
MA Recordings used Pioneer 96k Hz DAT for live recording in '90s using 2 B&K 4006 mics - excellent sound quality, no compression, full dynamics. Pioneer had also excellent sounding analog 3 header, dual capstan cassette decks.
Very cool machine, it seems to sound really good.
It should sound good since it is equal in quality to the CD when used at the 44.1 kHz sampling rate, which is what the CD uses.
Hey, dat's cool! I don't own one yet...one day will...I bought my first Sony MD Recorder about 4 months ago...I've never open up the shipping box, been crazy busy, however I am looking forward to it when I do!
I need to fix the old Aiwa DAT unit I bought faulty from eBay months ago... the tape doesn't spool and it's either a bad servo IC (a Sanyo that's no longer available) or bad surface mount electrolytics causing it. DATs a great format.
Doc,
check the SMT Capacitor on the RF Preamplifier.
This leaky on the p.c.b. and i have replace this on my DTC-790.
Check the mechanism, especially the loading guide, and the
felt pads of the brake. the DTC-ZE700 and the DTC-790 have
the same mechanism. For check the RF envelope,
connect the scope on the RF TP and on the Switching point,
on the main p.c.b. for check, the RF Packets of the heads.
Thanks for the info!
MD uses compression (ATRAC I believe), so DAT should sound better.
Correct.
DrCassette Perhaps you could do a comparison and discuss your findings.
My holidays are pretty much over, so I don't think there will be enough time left for that.
DAT uses uncompressed PCM, which is literally the same format the CD stores it's audio data in.
This is a very good video! Congratulations!
Thanks!
Those DAT tapes look a bit like sony Hi-8 video handycam video tapes.
Not really, the Video8 tapes are much bigger than the DAT tapes, about twice the size!
The thing about DAT machines is they look really cool.
The spectrum analyser is thing which I miss nowadays music or video systems
I used DAT machines in the 80s, they were very susceptible to humidity related problems.
Not a surprise, DAT uses a spinning head drum similar to the ones found in video recorders. If there is any moisture on the tape or the head drum, they stick together. So humidity is a big problem.
DAT was born for professional purpose into studio environment. All electronics devices suffered moisture problem when are cold and carried into warm site.
I used TCD D3 portable DAT for live concerts into halls/churches without any moisture problems during winter session.
Really nice deck! (Despite it being dirty)....I've always thought DAT was a great format. I also have a MiniDisc player than an ex bought me in 2003. Worked great last time I used it back in 2014...I preferred it over CDs
I have a Sharp minidisc deck and what I do is stream albums from the net onto it. The good thing about it is it senses the gaps between tracks creating a playlist whereas Audacity records in one lump.
But Audacity records without data compression. The Mini Disc system is VERY easy and quick to use, but I found the sound quality is not good enough for me.
But Audacity records without data compression. The Mini Disc system is VERY easy and quick to use, but I found the sound quality is not good enough for me.
DrCassette, are you saying Minidisc's ATRAC compression is poor? Is this based on one machine's abilities or have you listened to others? Sony's QS and ES range of decks sound great to my ears as does the Denon DMD-1000.
I have a pair of Sony PCM-7010F DAT Recorders, pro stuff, and awesome capability for post production work.
Hi , yes they are great machines . I have one and also two 7040s and one PCMR700 recordings are great Analogue or digital.
Hey DrCassette: The reason the "00"s are flashing is because you exceeded full-scale digital while you recorded that bit of music.
Yes, I got this display figured out by now :)
before doing anything you have to forward the tape to the end and then rewinding it to get a bit of slack as it was never used it says on the manuals, also the Margin thing i don´t know when i should use it
Where do you get the music?
It sounds catchy
hello! I really enjoyed this video! very interesting, thank you!
This might be an irrelevant question nowadays, and I might even irritate the audio purists by asking, but I care about sound quality a lot and I still would like to save my memories in some kind of physical format. Right now, I'm working with digital audio sources from my computer, connected to a vintage cassette deck, and recording to cassette tape.
My question is, if my source is some audio from a digital recording or a compressed mp3 file (because it's either some live acoustic version or it's just someone that's unsigned to a label), is it better or worse to record on a type 2 cassette instead of type 1? I'm working from digital to analogue, so I hope to keep as much warmth as possible, which you don't get from the studio or radio edited versions of commercially sold CD's and music downloads.
It may sound like overkill, but some music is only available online, and usually already compressed, so I'd like to get the best physical recording I can.
And what about CD's, would type 1 or 2 be better? thanks for your help.
Type 1 cassettes have better bass response, however, they have significantly more noise and the treble response is relatively bad.
Type 2 cassettes offer acceptable bass response, they have less noise and much better treble response. And because they were sold at higher prices than Type 1, generally the overall quality of the type 2 cassette is better.
Regardless of the source material (this analog vs. digital discussion is total nonsense in my opinion) I always recommend to use Type 2 cassettes.
DrCassette Thank you so much for your advice! That helps me a lot and I appreciate it! Thank you, Looking forward to seeing more videos from you
Out of experience myself, since I m also new to the dat world. Margin counts the db till you reach zero db. So if your recording peaks at -2.0db, margin writes 2.0. I think it flashes at 0.0 because you 've reached the "limit" of 0db at some point throughout the recording.
Yes, correct. I figured that out after making this video.
Hello.. I recorded a song from a Roland VS1680 Digital Multitrack Recorder to a Sony PCM-R300 DAT recorder.
How can I play/reproduce this tape in a regular amplifier. Looking forward for your advice. Thanks
What??? You simply connect the SONY recorder to the amplifier.Recorder is also player😂😂 Older amplifiers only had analog cinch, new ones have digital and optical as well. Everybody can do that every time?! It's clearly named on the back panel!
this is what I'm going to expand my recording studio on. get a DAT machine,a Mini disc machine and lastly a 8 track machine along with connecting them into a three way selector box and record to them.
Same one that I got but haven't gotten any tapes yet to test it out.
I love DAT! It was so much fun recording a final mix to a DAT tape. Clicking "Export" in a DAW isn't the same :/ (even if it's easier).
margin 0 flashing means you peaked the input to digital clipping, just like the CD producers do-
Pull the cover and show us how the internals operate
mine is like this also but i forget how i inserted track numbers or song names , i hope you show it, the older i had was all automatic and a ES top end model with also a very expensive sony cd player with optical cables but i also recorded most of the times in analog to make compilations of my favorite songs and now mine is working bad so i got this one cheap(15€) with 20 blank tapes from tdk and fuji and i know it works perfect as it was used but not many times like i did with mine, that recorded and play every day for a lot of years
ZE700 with SBM, nice one. Supposed to squeeze 20 bit into 16 with some tricks from Sony. Some years ago I’ve wanted to get one but eventually I have purchased 59ES. Before that I had 3 units of DTC670 but the mechanism DATM100 was cr*p. How much did you pay for ZE700?
Less than 100€.
In Poland, where I live, prices start at 200 euro for ZE700. Anyhow good video finally some DAT. I prefer the sound of DAT than lossy ATRAC from MD. I am looking for an 24 bit DAT from JVC. Probably from Germany will be cheaper inc shipping cost.
It works like a VCR but digitally!
In fact the DAT is very much like MiniDV except MiniDV of course also records digital video. But it does seem like the mechanical design of MiniDV is based on the DAT.
Cool little unit! Interesting technology as well, the only problem I have with it is that DAT was the beginning of digitally mastered vinyl records :-(
No, that was the U-matic video cassette, in conjunction with the Sony PCM-1600 and 1610 PCM processors, which encoded the digital audio into a signal, which could be recorded with a VCR. The DAT is essentially the same thing shrunk down and made into a proprietary standard by Sony.
Although I prefer analog, I love my Sony TCD-D7 DAT walkman, which I use to make recordings of concerts. It's compact, reliable and has full CD quality and more... (which is not true of the MiniDisc, as it uses lossy audio compression)
***** I didn't want to be specific, you are probably right but a lot of vinyls were made from DAT, I am 100% positive about that.
Daniël's Tech & Music Channel Of course of course. That's true. Studios were using digital in the '80s already. CD was the main reason why. I was talking about Vinyl mastering which is completely different. Before the mid '90s, 1/2" stereo analog tapes were the main mastering format for vinyl records. Then DAT became the studio standard for mastering since it was easier for them to only have one digital tape for CD, Vinyl and Cassette.
Daniël's Tech & Music Channel. Yep the first fully digitally recorded album was Ry Cooder bop till you drop from 1979
When the door mechanism belt stops working, use orthodontic bands - they work great !
Better use proper belts, rubber bands have a very limited lifetime.
Did you ever do a review of the MiniDisc recorder? I don't see it. I love MiniDisc!
I do still have the MiniDisc recorder I got back then and I like it, I just never got around to making a video about it...
DrCassette So. Did you ever compared sound quality ? If so what’s your take. I used to like Mini disc. I thought it was good. But looking back I am no so impressed now that I am back to playing vinyl records. Thx
@@rsanchez7111 Record Ology has done videos of minidisc players and Tech Moan also has made a few videos about this topic
Maximilian Fischer thanks. I am gonna check it out.
Interesting machine! Is DAT and DV tape the same? They look similar.
DAT and DV isn't the same. It have different tape spool lock mechanism. DAT and DDS are the same.
And DAT is bigger
DAT has typically thicker band material than DDS though, so not exactly the same.
hi have you got the minidisc deck yet and are you going to make a video of it thanks
The MiniDisc deck has arrived and it does work. I don't have time to make any videos at the moment.
fair enough thanks
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Music is on point! What music was that?
This is just some license-free music generated by the ScoreFitter program that came as part of an old version of the Pinnacle Studio video editor.
Dat players were very popular in the 90s before the CD recorder came out.
If you remember when the first CD recorders came out they blank CDRs were like 20 bucks each.
So people were still using Dat players till the blank CDRs became affordable.
Most people used just plain old cassette, as Dat was expensive. Like RtR was expensive in the 70's early 80s. So also then, most people used cassettes. Only when the cheap cd's came in the late 90's everyone went to CDR's. Same with Minidisc, it was expensive. So not much usage, still the cassette wins. Why? because it was cheap, that was the only reason. DAT tapes or RtR tapes became only cheap at the end of their life around 2001. When the factories dumped their stocks and the stores wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible.
did you know that you can still buy DAT tape from Thomann?
Pretty expensive if you ask me...
2:10 isn't that a 60 metre tape giving a record time of 120 minutes in SP?
Can you record digitally from a cd player with coax output? Thx.
Yes no problem. First generation copy. Depending on what recorder you have (Pro or consumer) The Pro machine no Scms problems.You can record whatever you like. The consumer machine will also work if you are recording direct from a CD player.
You don't mention anything about the manual. Maybe by now you have a copy but, why didn't you download a copy of the manual either before buying it or after purchase while waiting for it to arrive? You can download a free copy. That would have helped explain the features and how to use it, like knowing about the margin display and use, and why it rewound automatically several seconds after the track ended. Also, like any other tape, it's a good idea to wind the tape fully to the end and back at least once before trying to record on it. Especially since it's been just sitting around as long as you indicated it was. Maybe you did do that - it just looks like you didn't because I think I detected that there was an edit in the video at this point.
This was a spontaneous video, not intended to be a how-to. I know the manual is available out there somewhere, but I don't have time to read it.
If you still want a copy it's available from the Sony UK site: www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/dtc-ze700
The English language only version is only 24 pages.
The service manual is also available for free from hifiengine though you do need to register (also free) in order to download anything from there: www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/sony/dtc-ze700.shtml
Dr.Cassette, I love your Videos, and I'm wondering if you can direct me to somewhere that I can buy a D.A.T. Recorder. I have a Sony D.A.T. Recorder than needs repair, but the parts aren't available, and I would like to replace it with a clean, working model than is fully-functional.
I got this unit off Ebay. Of course it's always a game of hit and miss on Ebay, but anywhere else would likely be very overpriced.
Can I send my DAT Recorder to you for repair? My has been very well taken care of, but the Transport isn’t moving the Tape, and it needs a Rotary Encoder.
Margin reset, no blinking zero!
I have "DAT320 Data Cartridge"tapes , can these be used for audio on a tape deck like yours?
yes
Thanks for your help , they are here : www.backupworks.com/hp-dat320-tape-Q2032A.aspx
I had a Sony PCMR500 and it worked even with DDS4 dat tapes, great machine.
+Daniël's Tech & Music Channel. It will work if transport is in good shape...Sony dat transport is not the strongest one....Pioneer and Technics have good machines......if you use dds try to not use longest ones and skip first minute or two of tape to not use at all.....My all Sonys till today plays and record on dds tapes. Just put dds and try to rew and ff few times....if is all ok transport will be in good shape for use with dds....
Daniël's Tech & Music Channel I personally would recommend not using anything longer that the 90 meter/295 feet (2 GB) DDS-1 tapes which give you 3 hours in the standard modes (44.1/48 kHz) and 6 hours in the long mode (32 kHz). (In actuality some of these seem to be longer though because I have some that give me about 3 hours 35 minutes or so in the standard mode.) Why risk it when you don't have to? The manuals of many recorders recommend NOT using them, or at the very least, not to use them for important work. Some machines are better than others with their ability to handle these longer tapes. With my 4 recorders (3 regular size, 1 portable, all Sony) they all so far work ok with them but I'm still careful in using them.
you seem to know less than i do ,so i´m not getting the info i needed, first one as to read the manual not all works the same way, i remenberr a friend biying in 96 a good cassete deck and he had only basf cassettes super chrome and he couldn´t auto calibrate any of his basf and he asked me for help and i went there and the cassettes couldn´t be calibrated and recorded with a poor sound but i also had a lot of Super chrome basf cassettes but in 1985 i stoped using any basf as they got harder on rotation and you could hear the noise made by the deck engine to rotate those cassettes so i started to by more maxell and tdk cassettes, and i took a old 1983 cassette , this in 96, and put theere mine , sounded perfect did the BLE and it did it perfect and sounded amazing good , the owner even made a coment of ,"the deck doesn´t like me ,with you works perfect", after i asked hi a new super chrome cassette bought a week ago from that day ,i made the same , BLE , flashed Error ,and i asked him for the manual which was still in the box and i asked him "did you read it?" reply was "why they all are the same" then i showed him a page and said "read this" , Never use BASF cassettes!!!, explanation, they are badly built and destroys the deck , then he asked howm does the deck discovers that it his a BASF cassette , i said "the bitch is cazy" but in reality when starting to roll the tape the engine did so much strenght that it stoped and flashed error, i put the same cassette on a akai hx-1 i had sold him before abnd perfect , it recorded perfect, but it might not last much more time, so he started to buy only sa-x cassettes from tdk and even today his recordings made then sound perfect today in my 93 pioneer deck that works perefct with maintenace
helo i couldnt found out if any tape are rerecording or not, what do you think?
i have maybe 300 DAT cassettes like that i tried to use 60 minuts only and tdk was the brand who kept building good cassettes as a whole some might had better tapes but with a poorly done casing makin` it harder to a deck to roll it inside the casing destroying first the tunning of the deck and later the engine or belts but mainly the engine , with the years i learn that if wanting to a deck to work for a big number of years is using always the same brand ,type and minuts of recording and it worked for me a my deck digital or analogue do work perfect for many years without a diference from the first recorded to the last ,this talking about more than a hundred cassette tapes.
Where can I find the music track...? I searched for "Scorefitter" but couldn't find anything
Scorefitter is part of the Pinnacle Studio video editing program. It automatically generates music depending on the user settings.
Didn't know Espen Kraft had a second RUclips account ;)
hell-O to you! is this one with SCMS? because I´m using a Tascam DA 30 & DA 88. with best regards from Vienna Austria both Tascam machines are with and without SCMS.
This is an entry-level consumer unit, so it should have SCMS...
thank you for the quick response Sir! don´t worry about the scratches. the Sony machine is pretty good. ;-)
Does de tascam dat cassettes have the warmth of the metal tape as the old analog ones or it sounds like a pc daw? I want to pass my recordings in pc for a tascam da88 to see if it sounds “old-school” but might sound exactly the same.. don’t know if worth buying the dat recorder for that purpose..
Does de tascam dat cassettes have the warmth of the metal tape as the old analog ones or it sounds like a pc daw? I want to pass my recordings in pc for a tascam da88 to see if it sounds “old-school” but might sound exactly the same.. don’t know if worth buying the dat recorder for that purpose..
@@VitorLA-nz8de Hell-O to you and thank you for your comment. We use the Tascams in the studio and yes they do have a warm tone. Our instruments electric guitars, electric basses, drums, keyboards and piano sound finely resolved and detailed. So not cold and sterile as you are used to from the CD. But it also depends on where you record. We use two studios, one made of wood with a warm sound, the second made of stone, because we deliberately prefer a cold, echo-heavy sound in some songs. Copies on both sound 1:1 like the original. We record on an Otari with the Tascams running when the songs are done. The DAT recordings then go to Berlin for mastering. As usual, we go from analog (recording booth) to the mixer to analog (Otari) to digital (Tascam). Both Tascams are very good at recording and playback. Both Tascams were and are worth their money. with best regards
Hi doc
You should try the DCC player
Thanks for the vidéo
I actually had two DCC Recorders years ago, but those didn't work.
woah! what's DAT recorder :)
Whats the full title of the track you are playing ?
This a license-free track from the "Scorefitter" program in Pinnacle Studio.
MiniDisc reigns supreme.
But DAT looks kinda cool too, if content capacity and digital sound is your thing.
But that's when Hi-MD comes in and kicks ass all around, lol.
I agree, the MiniDisc, despite working with data compression (ATRAC) is a much nicer system. The DAT is just like the analog cassette except it's digital and it has start IDs to find individual tracks. The MiniDisc is much more versatile and quicker and easier to use. Hi-MD equipment here in Germany is extremely rare and expensive, so that's not really an option for me...
@ DrCassette
If you ever get the opportunity to obtain any HiMD discs & equipment, do so. HiMD has become scarce here in Canada, too, but some bargains may be found in eBay, if only for the recordable walkmans (there were no decks made for HiMD, except for a couple of models from Onkyo). Blank discs are ridiculously expensive now, thanks to those idiots at Sony discontinuing the product outside of Japan.
If you want sound quality, DAT vs. MD isn't even a contest.
But MD wins on versatility/usability big time. And when you are fortunate enough to own one of the later ES line MD recorders like the JA50ES, sound quality is getting pretty close to a good DAT deck. Unless you run a Pioneer D-07 DAT at 96 kHz sampling ...
@@svenschwingel8632 Digital or not, I cannot see how any tape can be better than optical. Even if the sound quality is somehow better, that does not make up for the simple fact that tape is prone to physical damage, and the winding/searching is a waste of time and annoying. Whereas optical allows immediate skip/search zippity-quick. Drop a DAT into water, it'll be fucked. A CD will dry and allow water residue to be wiped away.
DAT is only good for archiving or uninterrupted long-play purposes, not everyday playback/use ; for that, it's CD/MD forever. :-)
I don't think I eve had one of those JA~ES models... closest I got were the JE models. But after a certain point, it's all just glitz and glam and all that so-called "superior fidelity" is just redundant bells and whistles, boasting sound capabilities that the human ear can't even detect anyway - it's just a marketing ploy to make the sheeple spend their money and keep up with the Joneses as mindless trend followers.
nice clean deck alot get marks all over them. i got this deck i can tell you something you may not know this deck will record on dds dat tapes it's got a tape formating
when recording light comes on all them dds 1 new sealed tapes out there i payed 20p each for dds1 tapes the dds 4 5 are very long playing up to 4 hours i got
I do know DAT cassette decks will also work with DDS cassettes, but the DDS tape is much thinner. This means longer playback time but also it means those cassettes are not so reliable.
thanks
i think you have cd to this
Correct, I have a matching Sony CD player.
you make last year a video about the cd player
I had a lovely Fostex D5 DAT Recorder back in the 1990s, and then bought the same model back in 2016. www.datrecorders.co.uk/d5.php
Du hast mich bei eBay überboten. :-) Wollte das Gerät auch ersteigern. Direkt wiedererkannt an dem Schmutz neben der Power-Taste. :-)
Der Recorder ist wirklich ziemlich verdreckt. Da muss ich noch einiges an Arbeit reinstecken, bis der wieder ordentlich aussieht...
DrCassette Finde ich sehr gut, dass er bei Dir gelandet ist. So haben wir wenigstens alles was davon. Habe mir in den letzten Monaten nochmals alle Sony HiFi-Komponenten aus den 90ern zusammen gekauft bei eBay um meine Musiksammlung von früher zu digitalisieren. CD, MD, Tape. Den DAT-Rekorder hast Du nun. :-) Ich werde weiterhin die Augen bei eBay nach diesem Modell offenhalten. Das ganze digitalisiere ich mit einem Behringer Ultramatch Pro. Das Gerät solltest Du Dir mal anschauen! Hochinteressant!!!
Out of all the 3DD mechanisms Sony offered over the years (apart from the early DTC-55ES and DTC-1000ES), the ZE700 has proven itself to be the most solid. Although I would always prefer a 4DD mechanism. Which is why I have 2 ZA5ES in my collection ;)
This was one of the few consumer Sony DATs that allowed analog recording at 44.1 kHz and also offered a switchable SBM. Plus, there is a thin tape recognition built in so you can use DDS tapes up to 120 metres length.
That sounds good, I never knew this ZE700 was so relatively good. I actually sold it about a year ago because I just never used it...
I've always had some interest in the "newer" ZA5ES model deck. I've had many of these over the past 4 years and have really enjoyed the format. My first deck was a DTC-690 which was a pretty cheaply made and troublesome deck, so I sold it rather quickly. I then got into a DTC-700 (basically a DTC-55ES with a different model name), which has proven to be one of the most reliable decks I've owned. In the past year or so I have acquired an original 4D.D. DTC-1000ES (also a great bulletproof deck) and a super rare and early Grundig Fine Arts DAT-9000 (pretty much a rebranded and refaced JVC XD-Z1100) player from Europe. They are all pretty much all high-end versions and run great every time with minimal trouble after all these years of age.
@@perlewitzaudio a ZA5ES in working condition can be bought off eBay for ~450€. You might have to recap the RF amp and the drumboard and do some cleaning/alignment but other than that, these units are rock solid. And they sound amazing, especially with analog recordings. And they have two mono microphone inputs as well, like the 2000ES. The only downside is that they lack the 4-head drum for real-time monitoring. Which is why I got myself a PCM-2700 recently which is the semi-professional version of the 77ES. Another great DAT deck 😊
The short history of DAT, like you have wanted one of those.........................problem, where to get a DAT Tape.
ebay if you know where to look on the site. and I'm going to be grabbing both Dat and Miin disc decks plus an 8 track player/recorder,just for releasing my own music not just on cassette,but mini disc and 8 track as well.
@@gamepad3173 why mini disk ?
@@saren6538 It's something that I never had the chance to explore and I think that Mini disk would perfect to explore.
I suspect the TDK tape may have been worth more today than the machine
Actually, new old stock DAT tapes are way cheaper than compact cassettes these days 😂
Who DAT 😂
DAT >>>>>>>>>>>> Musicassette >>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP
Like CD
Like 2010
Above CD if used in 48 Hz sampling
AHHHH The collector in me screamed at the screen when I saw you crumple up a brand new wrapper. I would have kept the wrapper and tucked the tape back in it for future selling purposes. You would make 2x- 10x more on that cassette after if you wanted to sell it. You threw away the hardest thing to get as a tape collector. Esp with original sticker price. Ouch what a mistake. I bet that tape with the wrapper on it or kept. Could sell just as much as the player alone. To the right collector later on.
I needed a DAT cassette to test the deck, and that was the only one I had. At least I have the original wrapper on video.