Excellent tip! I followed your suggestion, and it turns out the Motorola M plug is indeed physically and electronically compatible. This opens up a lot of possibilities for additional speaker mics as well as headsets. Many thanks for the input.
I use the Motorola PMMN4013A speaker mic with my FT-65R and get consistently good signal reports. My use case is mostly for Allstar. Thanks for listening 73
EXCELLENT presentation! A few weeks ago, I purchased one of these units and the more I use it, the more I like it. My last 2M rig was a 5W, crystal-controlled Kenwood many years ago, so today's "bang for the buck" is truly amazing. Got mine from HRO. Dave AD6AE, NorCal.
I've added all the recommended accessories except the pouch, lol. It does make a nice little addition to the HT collection. It's working very well as a public safety receiver for my area. I've been very pleased with the speaker mic.
I just visited Martin Lynch & Son just outside London and bought one male and one female SMA versions of the NA-701, for my FT-70D and FT-65...I see why you like them, both much more pleasant to use than the stock antennas! 73, G0CIQ
I would love to see a battery pack that takes AA batteries in case of emergency. I had that with a Vertex HT and used rechargeable Nimh batteries. This was my backup battery so to speak. Also, Amazon just acts as the fulfillment for many items and is not the seller. So items are overpriced by the seller in hopes of piggybacking on the alleged low price reputation. Amazon can be it’s own worst enemy at times!
I have a commountain microphone r that works with the FT-65R, the same is the "Commountain CSM-02-M1" for anyone interested. I don't think it's better quality than the Yaesu one but it does the job. I have a video about it, but it's in spanish.
Scott (or anyone else), do you have a recommendation for an ear bud that will plug into the SSM-17B speaker mic? I'm looking for something quality and don't mind paying for it. Thanks! Jim
Just found your channel about 24 hours ago. I just purchased the FT-60. I'm thinking of getting another as a back up. Also thinking of getting a VX-6. Now I need to figure out some good upgrades for these. Any suggestions that may work for both or just per radio?
I have two fo these now. Great underated radios... Also have the FT2 and 3dr but tend to grab these because they are rugged. My older 65r was made in china. Both radios operate the same, but the unlock code does not work on the chinese version.
The thing I can’t stand about UV5R is that it doesn’t stand up without daintily placing it on the table. Especially with the big battery. UV88 with it’s 3200mAh battery is the best chinesium budget offering I think. It doesn’t feel as toylike and ridiculous as the Baofeng. Picking up a 65R sooner than later and will be happy as a hog to have that thicc boi chunky battery!
Thanks for all the information about the ft-65 ht. It a very nice compact size radio . And the price doesn't break the bank. 73 AE4OY William Peacock EM-81UF SOUTH EAST GEORGIA
this was very helpful....rounded out my kit. Any idea whether Specter gear will have any more production runs on chest rigs? Looks like I can't get my hands on a 11-99 bag any longer. Any alternative recommendations? thanks
I'm kinda torn apart between FT-65 and FT-60. Would buy 6R but the battery really looks weak and at this point, I do not want to mess with multiple batteries, chargers etc (even thought about buying VX-6 and FT-65 and giving FT-65 to people but god knows how I want to streamline the whole thing, i.e. take only 1 charger for both HTs). Thinking of buying 2 FT-65 and changing antennas to the 8inch Nagoyas you mentioned. Would the distance be comparable between the two (65 and 60)? Is double conversion that much better than a direct one? Want to get a pair for hiking, i.e. hills, thick forests etc and get some real distance. Battery life on paper for FT-65 is really crazy compared to VX-6 and still way better compared to FT-60. I have literally no Idea why they cannot make VX-6 with a decent battery by now.
with so many new models coming out from Baofengs, Radtel, RETEVIS, and others, is it still worth paying for a Yaesu FT65? I ask because I have a Baofeng Uv5r, a RETEVIS FR85 and a Radtel RT490 but even though I don't have any, I love this brand.
I put a nagoya 771 on my 65r and it's no better recieving and transmitting it's worse imo and it didn't work at all on my uv5r. It did come from Amazon and shipped from china but all the markers you look for to determine if it was real or fake showed it's real. Not sure though cause as I say the performance sucked so I went back to my standard rubber duck since it's more convenient for moving around. Might give the Diamond a try at some point.
Hi! I'm thinking of getting my technician license and starting out with a Yaesu FT -65R. The idea is to set up a base station with the HT using an external mic/speaker and a base antenna for local communication and with the repeaters. Can you tell me if I can operate the FT-65R TX/RX while it is charging in its charging cradle? I read the manual for the device but it doesn't mention it. Likewise, there is no battery eliminator indicated for the FT-65R, and I don't know if the one used for the FT-60 works for the FT-65R either. I imagine that I can operate the radio in the cradle but I am concerned about any stress this may put on the device or the battery, in the event that it is not suitable for operation while charging from the electrical outlet. Thanks for any insight you can give me!
@@nighthawk8764 When in doubt, it's better not to risk it. The best thing is to limit the battery charge to 80%. Lithium batteries have a slow wear curve of up to 80% and a fast wear curve of 80% to up to 100%. Explaining... a load from 0 to 100% generates a complete wear of 1 load cycle. Current batteries survive about 300 full charge cycles, after which they begin to deteriorate more quickly. One way to extend (and a lot) the useful life of the battery is by charging it to only 80%, because, due to the characteristics of these batteries, charging from 0% to 80% will only generate 0.21 wear cycle. That's right, only 1/5 of the wear that would be generated if the load were made up to 100%. In theory, if you always charge your lithium batteries to only 80%, you will multiply their useful life by 5! (Under normal temperature conditions - heat is the enemy of lithium battery life). Another important action is to never let the battery drain its charge, charge it when it is close to 5% (use an estimated usage time if the device does not have a low charge warning). Zeroing the battery charge also shortens its lifespan. Thus, managing the use of a HT so that charging procedures involve charging from 5-10% to 80% tends to multiply your battery life. The IC -V86 has a button on the charger that limits the charge to 80%, a nice feature that makes handling the lithium battery easier. If your device does not have this characteristic, it is possible to charge up to approximately 80% by marking the charging time from 5% to 100% and then charging from low charge to up to 80% of the total time. So even if the HT doesn't have a cable for charging while in use, proper handling, a good spare battery and the car's 12 volt charger can handle most situations. Below is a table with general wear characteristics of a lithium battery at various charging levels. from 0 to 70% - 0.10 wear cycle from 0 to 75% - 0.15 wear cycle from 0 to 78% - 0.18 wear cycle from 0 to 80% - 0.21 wear cycle from 0 to 85% - 0.27 wear cycle from 0 to 90% - 0.42 wear cycle from 0 to 95% - 0.62 wear cycle from 0 to 97% - 0.74% wear cycle from 0 to 100% - 1 wear cycle (ordinary ion batteries have around 300 charge cycles of useful life) Data taken from the Accubatery app for Android and Iphone. 73!!
@@cp300blackout4 I'm guessing the same holds true for cell phone batteries. I usually charge mine when it gets to between 30-40% and I charge to 80-85%. I know there are lots of different Lithium chemistries, but I think 0% to 100% does damage more quickly than more moderate charge and discharge levels on all the chemistries. True?
@@nighthawk8764 I believe this is correct. As far as I know, current lithium batteries all have the same characteristics of wear and useful life, this applies to both the common type of batteries, such as the 18685 type, as well as the flat packs that we use in cell phones and other devices. Wear increases for 3 reasons, fully charging the battery, fully discharging it, and heat. I think that charging from 30% to 80% would be an optimal procedure aiming at a longer battery life. Of course charging at 20%, 10% would still be very good, the biggest question would be how much starting the charging at 30-40% would disturb the use of the device on a daily basis. If it doesn't get in the way of using the device I think it's great. As for the heat, one of the issues that worried me about using the HT while charging is that even cell phones heat up a lot if used while they are being charged, so the same could happen with the HT (as for cell phones, both in conversation and when using heavy apps like YT) so don't use your phone while it's charging, it would avoid overheating and therefore increase its lifespan. My experience with my current phone is pretty positive using the 10-80% charging method, I've had it for 4 years and it still has 80% health (according to the Accubattery app I use - a relative measure that the app uses regarding battery health). That is, the battery does not heat up too much, it charges in normal time (up to 100% if necessary) and lasts the normal expected time (according to the use of the cell phone and applications) All with the original battery!! 73! 👍
That is their "commercial" version aimed at radios in the Business Radio Service. The antenna is a dual bander optimized for 155 & 455 Mhz. It's also good for MURS.
Unfortunately, no. There is no battery eliminator kit either. I have a bit of a low intensity conflict currently running with the Yaesu USA rep over this situation.
I've been searching for a battery eliminator for quite some time now but no luck(maybe I haven't search hard enough), if you find one please share from where you got it, it will be very appreciated.
You could drop the spare battery into the charge cradle while running another battery. Unfortunately, Yaesu still has not produced a battery eliminator kit to run the radio from a power supply. Nor have I been able to locate a 3rd party provider for that part. This is my #1 gripe with this radio. I've spoken directly to several Yaesu reps about this and they seem completely uninterested.
Not anymore. They are made in Japan now. The first one I bought was made in china. But the last two I bought were marked made in Japan. I have a video on this that I did around December of 2021.
@@Oldpaint0216 yes actually but that wasn’t my point Karen. My point was he was essentially comparing it to Chinese made radios. I was simply letting him know that this radio was also made in china, at least originally.
The radio I was trying remember is the Tera TR-590. For some weird reason my brain got stuck on the SERE acronym and completely shut down.
Hi !! It's ok to support the ham radio outlet , but how much money does it have to make to line they're pockets
Hi !! It's ok to support the ham radio outlet , but how much money does it have to make to line they're pockets
FYI the FT-65 uses a Motorola M1 plug.
Excellent tip! I followed your suggestion, and it turns out the Motorola M plug is indeed physically and electronically compatible. This opens up a lot of possibilities for additional speaker mics as well as headsets. Many thanks for the input.
@@KS6DAY Happy to help! I found out by looking at a PTT that cost more than the radio haha.
I use the Motorola PMMN4013A speaker mic with my FT-65R and get consistently good signal reports. My use case is mostly for Allstar. Thanks for listening 73
I just ordered one of these radios after watching your video
EXCELLENT presentation! A few weeks ago, I purchased one of these units and the more I use it, the more I like it. My last 2M rig was a 5W, crystal-controlled Kenwood many years ago, so today's "bang for the buck" is truly amazing. Got mine from HRO. Dave AD6AE, NorCal.
Another good informative radio video although you are contributing to my HT addiction.
I've added all the recommended accessories except the pouch, lol. It does make a nice little addition to the HT collection. It's working very well as a public safety receiver for my area. I've been very pleased with the speaker mic.
I just visited Martin Lynch & Son just outside London and bought one male and one female SMA versions of the NA-701, for my FT-70D and FT-65...I see why you like them, both much more pleasant to use than the stock antennas! 73, G0CIQ
Motorola Hand Mic (Motorola Model # 9030A) works with both the FT-65R & FT-4X.
Signal Stick for the win. Great antennas and doing a ton of good for the amateur community. ✌🏼⚡️🎙
As always, pithy yet full of useful information. Thanks again, Scott! 73, Stuart W1SLC
Thank you for this video. It was very helpful!
Big battery on the UV5R is 3800 mAh. That's the best thing they have going for them. Those batteries last FOREVER.
I would love to see a battery pack that takes AA batteries in case of emergency. I had that with a Vertex HT and used rechargeable Nimh batteries. This was my backup battery so to speak. Also, Amazon just acts as the fulfillment for many items and is not the seller. So items are overpriced by the seller in hopes of piggybacking on the alleged low price reputation. Amazon can be it’s own worst enemy at times!
Great vid, just picked up the FT-65 and these accessories minus the pouch, which doesn't ship to Canada.
I have a commountain microphone r that works with the FT-65R, the same is the "Commountain CSM-02-M1" for anyone interested. I don't think it's better quality than the Yaesu one but it does the job. I have a video about it, but it's in spanish.
Scott (or anyone else), do you have a recommendation for an ear bud that will plug into the SSM-17B speaker mic? I'm looking for something quality and don't mind paying for it. Thanks! Jim
Just found your channel about 24 hours ago. I just purchased the FT-60. I'm thinking of getting another as a back up. Also thinking of getting a VX-6. Now I need to figure out some good upgrades for these. Any suggestions that may work for both or just per radio?
I have two fo these now. Great underated radios... Also have the FT2 and 3dr but tend to grab these because they are rugged. My older 65r was made in china. Both radios operate the same, but the unlock code does not work on the chinese version.
Thanks for posting. What about a programming cable?
The thing I can’t stand about UV5R is that it doesn’t stand up without daintily placing it on the table. Especially with the big battery. UV88 with it’s 3200mAh battery is the best chinesium budget offering I think. It doesn’t feel as toylike and ridiculous as the Baofeng.
Picking up a 65R sooner than later and will be happy as a hog to have that thicc boi chunky battery!
These are Motorola M1 mics, same connector used on the Motorola CP series radios.
Edit Bah, didn't see someone already mentioned it.
What would you get as a headset for this radio? I think yeasu makes an earphone/mic but I'm not sure if it fits the plug for this.
Well said, well said to heck with Amazon, but from those in the industry. Awesome video hand salute
Great work thanks I'm getting one.
Thanks for all the information about the ft-65 ht. It a very nice compact size radio . And the price doesn't break the bank. 73 AE4OY William Peacock EM-81UF SOUTH EAST GEORGIA
Just got this radio today
KQ4CD Paul
Does this microphone has aux in it? I want to hear the radio on my headset at the shooting range and still be able to use the microphone
I just received my microphone. There is a jack on the bottom for earbuds or equivalent. I have not tested it yet.
@@ggggg4030 thanks for the info!
I will put up with the whip for distance 🙂
hi. i've both ft4 and ft65. i got the battery eliminator for the ft4, but i can't find the one for the ft65 🤷♂️
i'll buy the the bigger battery
this was very helpful....rounded out my kit. Any idea whether Specter gear will have any more production runs on chest rigs? Looks like I can't get my hands on a 11-99 bag any longer. Any alternative recommendations? thanks
I'm kinda torn apart between FT-65 and FT-60. Would buy 6R but the battery really looks weak and at this point, I do not want to mess with multiple batteries, chargers etc (even thought about buying VX-6 and FT-65 and giving FT-65 to people but god knows how I want to streamline the whole thing, i.e. take only 1 charger for both HTs). Thinking of buying 2 FT-65 and changing antennas to the 8inch Nagoyas you mentioned. Would the distance be comparable between the two (65 and 60)? Is double conversion that much better than a direct one? Want to get a pair for hiking, i.e. hills, thick forests etc and get some real distance. Battery life on paper for FT-65 is really crazy compared to VX-6 and still way better compared to FT-60. I have literally no Idea why they cannot make VX-6 with a decent battery by now.
Hahah I’m in the same boat.
with so many new models coming out from Baofengs, Radtel, RETEVIS, and others, is it still worth paying for a Yaesu FT65? I ask because I have a Baofeng Uv5r, a RETEVIS FR85 and a Radtel RT490 but even though I don't have any, I love this brand.
I put a nagoya 771 on my 65r and it's no better recieving and transmitting it's worse imo and it didn't work at all on my uv5r. It did come from Amazon and shipped from china but all the markers you look for to determine if it was real or fake showed it's real. Not sure though cause as I say the performance sucked so I went back to my standard rubber duck since it's more convenient for moving around. Might give the Diamond a try at some point.
Does the speaker mic have a 3.5mm headphone jack?
That mic is compatible with the ft-4x?
What's your input on a signal stick
Great vid. Thank you
Simple question, will extanded batery work on ft4x as well? Overall soo much goood info
Hi! I'm thinking of getting my technician license and starting out with a Yaesu FT -65R. The idea is to set up a base station with the HT using an external mic/speaker and a base antenna for local communication and with the repeaters. Can you tell me if I can operate the FT-65R TX/RX while it is charging in its charging cradle? I read the manual for the device but it doesn't mention it. Likewise, there is no battery eliminator indicated for the FT-65R, and I don't know if the one used for the FT-60 works for the FT-65R either. I imagine that I can operate the radio in the cradle but I am concerned about any stress this may put on the device or the battery, in the event that it is not suitable for operation while charging from the electrical outlet. Thanks for any insight you can give me!
I'm interested in seing if anyone can answer your questions, too.
@@nighthawk8764 When in doubt, it's better not to risk it. The best thing is to limit the battery charge to 80%. Lithium batteries have a slow wear curve of up to 80% and a fast wear curve of 80% to up to 100%. Explaining... a load from 0 to 100% generates a complete wear of 1 load cycle. Current batteries survive about 300 full charge cycles, after which they begin to deteriorate more quickly. One way to extend (and a lot) the useful life of the battery is by charging it to only 80%, because, due to the characteristics of these batteries, charging from 0% to 80% will only generate 0.21 wear cycle. That's right, only 1/5 of the wear that would be generated if the load were made up to 100%. In theory, if you always charge your lithium batteries to only 80%, you will multiply their useful life by 5! (Under normal temperature conditions - heat is the enemy of lithium battery life). Another important action is to never let the battery drain its charge, charge it when it is close to 5% (use an estimated usage time if the device does not have a low charge warning). Zeroing the battery charge also shortens its lifespan. Thus, managing the use of a HT so that charging procedures involve charging from 5-10% to 80% tends to multiply your battery life. The IC -V86 has a button on the charger that limits the charge to 80%, a nice feature that makes handling the lithium battery easier. If your device does not have this characteristic, it is possible to charge up to approximately 80% by marking the charging time from 5% to 100% and then charging from low charge to up to 80% of the total time. So even if the HT doesn't have a cable for charging while in use, proper handling, a good spare battery and the car's 12 volt charger can handle most situations.
Below is a table with general wear characteristics of a lithium battery at various charging levels.
from 0 to 70% - 0.10 wear cycle
from 0 to 75% - 0.15 wear cycle
from 0 to 78% - 0.18 wear cycle
from 0 to 80% - 0.21 wear cycle
from 0 to 85% - 0.27 wear cycle
from 0 to 90% - 0.42 wear cycle
from 0 to 95% - 0.62 wear cycle
from 0 to 97% - 0.74% wear cycle
from 0 to 100% - 1 wear cycle
(ordinary ion batteries have around 300 charge cycles of useful life) Data taken from the Accubatery app for Android and Iphone. 73!!
@@cp300blackout4 I'm guessing the same holds true for cell phone batteries. I usually charge mine when it gets to between 30-40% and I charge to 80-85%. I know there are lots of different Lithium chemistries, but I think 0% to 100% does damage more quickly than more moderate charge and discharge levels on all the chemistries. True?
@@nighthawk8764 I believe this is correct. As far as I know, current lithium batteries all have the same characteristics of wear and useful life, this applies to both the common type of batteries, such as the 18685 type, as well as the flat packs that we use in cell phones and other devices. Wear increases for 3 reasons, fully charging the battery, fully discharging it, and heat. I think that charging from 30% to 80% would be an optimal procedure aiming at a longer battery life. Of course charging at 20%, 10% would still be very good, the biggest question would be how much starting the charging at 30-40% would disturb the use of the device on a daily basis. If it doesn't get in the way of using the device I think it's great. As for the heat, one of the issues that worried me about using the HT while charging is that even cell phones heat up a lot if used while they are being charged, so the same could happen with the HT (as for cell phones, both in conversation and when using heavy apps like YT) so don't use your phone while it's charging, it would avoid overheating and therefore increase its lifespan. My experience with my current phone is pretty positive using the 10-80% charging method, I've had it for 4 years and it still has 80% health (according to the Accubattery app I use - a relative measure that the app uses regarding battery health). That is, the battery does not heat up too much, it charges in normal time (up to 100% if necessary) and lasts the normal expected time (according to the use of the cell phone and applications) All with the original battery!! 73! 👍
What is the difference in the Nagoya NA-701 and Nagoya NA-701C?
That is their "commercial" version aimed at radios in the Business Radio Service. The antenna is a dual bander optimized for 155 & 455 Mhz. It's also good for MURS.
Hello, I have 3 Baofeng in months None pick up local hearing! Live in ohio but could you Know for sure this one will work for me
Thanks
Has anyone found a AA battery pack, or an off grid way to charge the li-ion pack from DC?
It's a deal breaker for me, I've been looking for it since one week, never found one.
What adapter do I need to go to BNC KQ4CD Paul
Any option for an AA battery tray?
Unfortunately, no. There is no battery eliminator kit either. I have a bit of a low intensity conflict currently running with the Yaesu USA rep over this situation.
@@KS6DAY They could have designed the case to fit the SBT-12 AA tray they use for their aviation HTs. I wonder why they didn't do that.
Do they make a larger FNB 101L1
order ko battery 7.4v baoping
I've been searching for a battery eliminator for quite some time now but no luck(maybe I haven't search hard enough), if you find one please share from where you got it, it will be very appreciated.
I've been looking for a battery eliminator too.
I've also done a lot of looking with no luck.
is there a way to charge up a battery when off the radio? if so it would work great when you are using a battery plugged into a 12V dc supply. .
You could drop the spare battery into the charge cradle while running another battery. Unfortunately, Yaesu still has not produced a battery eliminator kit to run the radio from a power supply. Nor have I been able to locate a 3rd party provider for that part. This is my #1 gripe with this radio. I've spoken directly to several Yaesu reps about this and they seem completely uninterested.
Te FT-65 looks like a Pregnant FT-4, LOL!
This is a Chinese made radio…
Not anymore. They are made in Japan now. The first one I bought was made in china. But the last two I bought were marked made in Japan. I have a video on this that I did around December of 2021.
@@KS6DAY good to know, thanks!
and that matters . . . why? Is there a USA competitor?
@@Oldpaint0216 yes actually but that wasn’t my point Karen. My point was he was essentially comparing it to Chinese made radios. I was simply letting him know that this radio was also made in china, at least originally.
@@Oldpaint0216 did you even watch the video or did you just come straight to the comment section to speak to the manager?