Republic Services | The New Heil Command-SST Garbage Truck
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2021
- Hey guys, here's a video of Fremont's new Heil Command-SST!
Not gonna get into all of the details of when this truck got here and whatnot, but judging from the fact that it still looks brand new, yet it no longer has CA temp-plates, says something about how often it's used. Either that or they just washed this truck (highly doubt it since the RS Bay Area divisions are notorious for not cleaning their equipment).
I believe there are five total SSTs in the Fremont yard. From what I've heard, most of them haven't been assigned a regular route. What's the reasoning you may ask? Most if not all of the drivers that have operated this truck aren't too fond of it. It can all be summed up in three words; too much technology.
Now as a filmer, I can't go and say "oh it operates like total crap or is a hassle to maintain" since I'm not a driver nor a mechanic, but from what I've heard drivers say is that the truck is too complicated with all of the new automatic controls, combined with the heightened use of manual controls. There's a constant balance in between controls to extend the arm out fluently due to the arm's geometry. You can see the driver having to constantly raise or lower the arm & grabbers while extending the arm, which is if I recall another reason he said why he didn't like the truck since he did not have to do that on the other trucks he previously drove.
It also doesn't help that in a lot of places in Fremont, the asphalt dips significantly into the gutter, which I believe is why you occasionally see the driver misjudging the gripping position (granted, there is the option to manually manipulate the grabbers up and down, but that's yet again another manual control not present on the driver's previous trucks that he has to learn to use). You cannot close the grabbers or raise the arm while the arm is fully stowed either (probably to avoid body rubbing), so you're required to be a certain distance from the bin in order to actually grab and raise it.
To further compound what kind of an unnecessary purchase this truck was for the Fremont yard, there were at least three older trucks sitting in the yard waiting to be scrapped due to nonfeasible repairs. They did not choose to keep 2502 as a replacement truck for at least one of the scrap line units. It was sent out of the Fremont yard shortly after this was filmed. To my knowledge, it was never assigned to a permanent route or driver. It got moved to the Pacheco yard for a little over a year, and was reregistered and renumbered under 2418. After that it now currently resides in the Rancho Cordova yard under the same unit number.
I don't have much more to say without venturing into the territory of talking about things that I have no knowledge of or haven't observed, so I'll let you guys cast your own opinions in the comments.
Enjoy the video!
Special thanks to Ken and Keanu for being awesome drivers!
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Awesome! Good looking truck, the arm isnt the best but it's different. Hope to see it run through Niles near the Mosk tomorrow.
1:43 close call haha
1:44 oh dear god that gave me so much anxiety
Yes lol
Now from what Heil says, that black box on the gripper assembly is a sensor that levels the arm on its own to adjust with the carts. Heil has made this unit very fancy looking and it really looks unique. The only thing I'm not confined with is the Curotto grippers. I'd pick out the tri grippers tbh. Like you said, it's just a matter of mastering the controls on the joystick even though it has like 5 to 6 buttons. I will say driver's can get satisfaction from the extra 3 shakes this thing gives with the touch of a button and the fact the head rotates up and down. Heil has definitely put in some good physics into these units. Lots of learning is left for drivers who will be driving these. I don't get how they are at 2500 series now lol. The Fresno yard hasn't even started that series yet besides the fact the Durapack RR's taking over the lower numbers instead of the higher numbers. You still have a great video here!
Nice! Man the the arm is tricky... feels like it’s always gonna knock something down
him and I were actually picking up a lot of knocked over bins off camera, mainly due to the fact of the sloping asphalt though
Awesome excellent video dude I love this brand new truck dude. This truck has a great operating style in my opinion. I really enjoyed this video too dude.
That looks like a awesome truck
The arm is so bulky it looks so weird up in the air when dumping a cart. My yard appearantly got one and it-s a diesel. I plan on finding it hopefully next month.
Can you do the garden city sanitation of 64 gallon bin
Nice one 👍
Great video! Does the driver control the grippers, or do they open and close by themselves when needed? Weird how sometimes it really squeezed the carts and sometimes it just barely grabbed them, to where they almost fell in, like that little 32 SSI at the beginning haha! Also was cool to see it picking up one of the 20 gallon SSI wheelies! Great work!
not sure, I know that the arm automatically extends out if the extend button is merely tapped on the manual controls underneath the seat, but I'm not sure if the grabbers are automatically assisted or if they're still just manually controlled
Beautiful truck but I don’t like how the process doesn’t look smooth too much hesitation for me I like to slide thru the route scoop and score (my opinion tho)
Why is there 2 drivers? Not one?
As much as the truck is aesthetically pleasing, it just isn’t practical. From what I’ve heard there’s way to much tech on the truck. I watched the demo video from Heil on their channel and I was so taken back by how much automatic paraphernalia this truck is equipped with. It’s a very nice looking truck but just doesn’t seem operator-friendly whatsoever. Great footage!
I remember first seeing this and not believing it existed because usually the side loader begin with "24" ie: 2423, 2432 x)
well fremont has amassed so many different trucks from different yards over the years that instead of just replacing the older #24 series trucks and retaining their numbers or renumbering them, they just decided to keep going and go past 2500 lol
@@GarbageTrucksofSanJose just curious, have you ever seen like 2455? Cuz I've never seen like #24(5)()
@@rupert6478 if there is a #55, it's probably one of their 520 autoreaches, since I believe the autoreaches start at #48 or #49
@@GarbageTrucksofSanJose yep. There's a republic ACX (I think?) 2447. It's not one of those painted over ones. It's a true republic that was there before everyone got repainted. And I also think you're correct about the 520's beginning at 48.
I remember wayyyy long ago before 2009, there was an Automator 2412. so cool.
Number system for Republics trucks are normally this: Side loaders are 24// and 25// and if it’s a Curotto it’s 23// and 22//. Front loaders are 12// and 13// and Rear Loaders are 10// and 21//. Rolloff’s are 34// and 35//.
Another 2502. Very strange
GreenTeam of San Jose is considering these trucks along with the Mcnelius auto-reach….the Labrie still the best side loader on the market!
yeah no way should GT buy these considering the number of trees you guys have. they'll be wire and tree magnets, already difficult enough for your roof mounted CNG tanks to handle
Yup….our tanks already on the the roof..so we been tree topping…lol…our shop manager I believe came from Republic Fremont.
@@johnnyB692 explains the want for autoreaches and these crap SSTs, don't think they would fare too well after seeing some of the routes you guys do. most of the SSTs at fremont and other republic yards are sitting dormant unassigned to a route since none of the drivers want to touch them
odd that y'all are considering buying new trucks as well since they aren't that old compared to the trucks over at GCS/GWS/GWR
The trucks are almost 10 years old …GT just got a 15 year extension from City of SJ
This truck sounds like the Durapack Rapid Rail CNrG and has the same chassis. I like this truck. It has an Arm nearly identical to the Formula 7000 and the Python. But it has a chain like the ZR, Amrep HX450 Octo series, and I still remember the rubber grippers I remember that Heil has and I am quite curious this truck flips lids.
Great video and still have yet to see more to come from Republic Services of Fremont.
That arm looks a lot better then the Older style that gets loose swaying after awhile this arm looks more stable n strong let’s see how it pans out in a year or so. For being a heil I like it. But the Amrep ASL is a better ASL all around.
you're right about waiting a little longer to see how it is in a year. perhaps some opinions will change once drivers master the controls and the trucks have some usage on them. right now though, like almost any new truck, people are skeptical since it seems like the older ones do just as fine as these ones with less complex components
@@GarbageTrucksofSanJose I hear you like I’ve said before Heil ASL bodies always have problems with the arm this coming from drivers that operate these trucks. We will see also that arm will tell us more as time goes on it looks cool n all but looks don’t mean shit in the long run . At the cost of these trucks stay Awesome my friend G. T. San Jose
@@GarbageTrucksofSanJose how do you feel about the Amrep ASL?
@@abelpadilla7789 amreps are nice since you don't have to retract the arm if you want to dump it, that's the thing I've heard from old WMSJ drivers, plus they're usually pretty quick off the line. actually heard that the old amreps in the 90s were so quick that they would fling bags and whatnot over the side
the thing with Heil arms and Heil products in general nowadays is all of the safety cutoffs and whatnot. our older Heils can rev to speed up the arm, manually pack, open the arm while stowed, etc. nowadays with new Heils, you can't do that
@@GarbageTrucksofSanJose that’s true about the early Amreps on over loaded cans. The gripper wouldn’t drop enough in to the hopper like the N3 arm I’ve seen the gripper does not drop enough in to the hopper but newer Amrep now comes down in to the hopper so what slower making the curve in to the hopper.
Nice video. Republic has been very strange lately with new trucks, carts, and logos. Also that arm looks like it has major problems with spillage and Looks very complex to operate.
judging from the lack of streaks of GJ on the hopper walls, combined with the high rubber shielding, I'd say it actually does a fairly good job with preventing spillage, granted that the resident hasn't played jenga with their overflowing trash
Training a new operator ?
Nice video but that arm is awful it always seems like it’s gonna spill and it take longer for the driver to grab the can and it just looks like is poorly designed.
I am not a fan on the SST. RSI needs to keep buying the ZR not this abomination of an ASL