@@Leviathan-mj8gi you got querty keyboard or midi controllers wich have better keys than op1 and pads and if you say is not portable im coming to your house with my laptop and akai mpk mini in my bagpack :D
@@raphaelmejia319 that setup is frankly not as tight as a package. If you only had one choice, you should get the laptop and akai. If you already have those, time for a OP-1.
@@AiMaTay yeah but how many times do you really need a keyboard size groovebox? yes I could use it in my lap on the bus but someone would steal it from me, so the only places people can really ouse op1 outside home are their hotel or friend/studio room with a desk so any of those my laptop can work aswell wven without midi controler. Pluus if you have an ipad op 1 is basically dead cause is smaller and has more than 4 tracks and you can undo your mistakes basically op 1 is very fun but not 2000 usd fun
I'd say, if you can afford the Field, then definitely get that over the OP-1. There will be a point where the lo-fi, horrible noise floor of the OG will limit your production as you get better with it (at least that's what happened for me). As I got better at production, it felt like it was a real limitation. The 32bit signal chain of the Field will mean it's finally able to make proper studio quality files. For me that raises it to the next level
i think the used market for the op-1 is a bit overstated… i don’t think there are a ton of people rushing to sell their v1s. price of the v2 is a definite point of contention for existing v1 owners and i don’t think a bunch of v1 folks are rushing out to buy the v2. its possibly on the horizon though. i bought one (hasn’t shipped yet) but even still i’m in no hurry to offload my v1. i love my v1 op-1 and always will… a desert island machine. ideas are priceless and worthless and a machine with immediacy and convenience to quickly experience the difference is very valuable imo :)
I've always wanted one of these. It's gonna take a little time since I'm still in such a massive transition point in my life. But i'd be using this thing in every one of my songs.
Just got an OP-1 for $590 on eBay free of any problems. Now I’m just trying to read the owners manual and watch as my videos as possible. I will have to check out your skillshare videos. Thanks for your post because I was really thinking of getting the “field”. Still might get it for the ability to save ideas and Bluetooth. My setup is mostly BT. Thanks again.
No one makes videos about the defective OP-1 units TE sold. I am the owner of one. It’s was ok for the first couple years but it had its quirks like not wanting to hold a charge. Then after a TE firmware update, it no longer would connect to any other device. Essentially it broke the usb connectivity. Sent it to a TE repair center and they determined it was a faulty board. But they wouldn’t repair it because the warranty expired. Even though it was their update and faulty board that was the cause. It left me feeling quite bitter and I will never buy another one of their products again because they don’t stand behind their hardware. Which is disappointing because I thought that is the whole point of buying from and supporting a boutique manufacturer.
I had one of those units as well. Super frustrating. I ended up replacing the board myself which was actually super easy, but the parts are very hard to get a hold of and sell out very quickly. This was a few years ago so I’d imagine it’s tougher now? But yeah I wouldn’t say their customer service is nearly as good as larger companies like Moog or Sequential.
Its a lot of money but I am tempted. I bought my original OP-1 right after they came out in the US, like you I use it in almost every performance. It is one of my favorite devices, along with the Electron Octatrack. I actually just replaced the battery on my OP-1, it finally died after all those years.
I own the v1 version and not planning to upgrade. I love how I can jam together with my Crumar Seven. That ons combines synthesis and samples too and every day I find new ways to better blend the sound. Oh and on holiday I only was allowed to take one bag. So I'v e chosen to take less clothes with me and in the air I was recording at night :)
They raised the price of the original model when they released the new one, just as the prices were starting to come down to a reasonable level. I’m just a hobbyist so its totally keeping me away. If they had a way to sell it cheaper instead I might get it and then get hooked and want to upgrade later.
I am considering picking up an OP1 Field but the fact that I can now get an ipad pro with Logic Pro for a lower price is a bit crazy. Gotta have to think on it for a while
dude i found one at guitar center for $800!!! the only issue was a broken volume knob, but everything else works flawlessly! i hope to pick up the field one day, but not until i am fluent with my new baby op-1 :)
Nice vid! The appearance of the Field makes me want to push my OG OP-1 more. There are creative ways to get a stereo mix for all synths on the OG- just hard pan L and R tracks 1 and 2 and record slightly differently modulated sequences of the same preset (or wildly different) onto each. The only thing I dislike is the aliasing on a lot of synths, and the field gets rid of that I think. But for heavily sample-based tracks- OG OP-1 can manage just fine.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi it is what it is- the synth engines are lo fi and don’t pretend not to be. 16-hour battery life and small form factor came at a trade off. It’s pretty incredible that they got 24 hours battery life in the new version with 32-bit sound, in the same form factor.
Lmao... The joke is on anyone who buys it for $2000 when it's not worth more than $300... It's the same ridiculous vanity of buying a $2000 iPhone when a $99 Android does all the same things... 💥
If only either version of the OP-1 had direct multi-timbral sequencing, quantizing, and the ability to save multiple, fully editable sequenced projects. Y',know, like the OP-Z, still the best bang-for-buck IMO. Sure, the OP-1 is a super-fun inspiration machine, but once that inspiration hits I reach for the Z to get busy.
Gotta agree with @edgeof60, having the field I would trade for a opz field in a heartbeat (if it existed). Even though there are multiple tapes, as of the time being they’re constrained to the same tempo. On the opz, I could have multiple projects, each with its own tempo. This seems like a pretty easy sw patch though and I couldn’t imagine TE not implementing that functionality soon!
Great machine even if so expensive! The only big doubt, Can you export the tracks separately but also with effects ? It's possible ? On the original op-1 no !
Do you mean export individual tracks but with the mix bus processing? Sort of. You can always solo the tracks one by one and print things that way. There are only four tracks so it’s not that time consuming. Part of the reason the mix bus effects are cool is how things interact together. Like with the compressor or the filter or something, it wouldn’t sound exactly the same if printed separately and added back together later. Different flavors for different needs!
got one used for 720euro with a case, i cant imagine them producing it any longer and since iv been lusting after it for 10 years. looking at the current inflation it should actually be a nice investment lmao
It's weird watching some of these audio gear videos when you know most of them are trying to sell you the new latest piece of gear in some form or another. I enjoy my OP-1. I remember all the other youtube channels selling me on the OP-1 BUT this new OP-1 is just SO much better lol I'm kidding. The OP-1 is good enough. The unfortunate side is most these cats are not being truly real with you. Most of this gear is gimmicky af and they know it, you can hear it in the vocal tonality while trying to sell you the next piece of gear. The OG OP-1 is sick.
Exactly! The whole point of the video is that the original is excellent and the minor improvements of the op-1 field don't really warrant an upgrade unless you REALLY love TE.
I was actually looking for this kind a review, because I really want an OP-1 for a while, but it was too pricey. Now I can find a lot of them used for half the price... But why ? It was hard to get it for hundred bucks less used than new some month ago ! It so stange that it made me think, maybe I need an OP-1F because the OP-1 is garbage ? ^^ But I don't even have the money for a classic OP-1 ! hahaha But what sold me the OP-1 is because I have a very good sampler, I just want synth engine. The mother reverb sounds amazing where the OP-1 classic have a very bad reverb for what I do (mostly ambiant stuff) The projects thing was what I was waiting for the OP-1 to drop my money... but, not that kind of money ^^ Of course, if I fall in love with my OP-1, I may want to upgrade to an OP-1F someday, but I can sell some gear for something I know to be good for my workflow and creativity, not just to try something that cost more than a full month of hard work and see if it workd for me. So thanks, I too, think it's a really good time to finally buy an OP-1 ;)
Sorry for the word vomit: Been eyeballing the OP-1 for YEARS. Bought an OP-Z a couple years ago as a compromise to the price and haven't regretted it at all (except for the normal complaints of bending and double trigs). Of course, I would abso-fuckin-lutely buy an OP-Z Field. Anyways, I think it's kinda lame that it says OP-1.5 on the bottom of it when the young TE rep at Superbooth said, "This is the next 10 years of OP-1." I kinda don't buy it, but who knows? That being said, I ordered one. The costs of either of them new is hilarious, so I figured I might as well splurge because I'm bein boujie and always wanted one. $175 a paycheck over the next 6 months on paypal credit (interest free) vs $125 for the OG. I'm wondering if a granulator effect would help justify the cost in some people's minds, or if what they plan on adding would eventually make people say, "Ohhhh okay." For example: I got an MPC Touch around the time the original MPC Live came out (2017). My rationale when comparing them was, "Why would I pay almost twice as much for way less functionality sacrificed for portability?" Then over time they released firmware updates. HUGE updates that eventually sold me on it when the Live II rumors started in the FB groups. Even though it didn't work out for me last time, people should definitely buy things for what they are and not what they hope to be. Though more and more companies seem to be doing this. Releasing products without their full capabilities and trickling them out in firmware updates as a continuous promotion campaign. So, what I'm saying is TE already knows what's going to be released on most of the future firmware updates, and I'm just hoping they make it 1.5x better than the original. I'm gonna call it the OP-1.5 from now on, regardless.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi limits require creativity to work around them. A less is more deal. The op-z is an incredibly creative portable tool, so is the OP-1F and the value is there for me. If it’s not for you, that’s understandable. Have you ever messed with a Touch? It controls the same software as the Live/X/One, it just requires a computer and a wall wart, but the computer can make it more powerful than any of the other units in standalone. Strictly speaking in the box of course, not for someone with lots of external gear. I sold my Touch to get a Live II for portability and external gear integration.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi the MPC Live is essentially a Touch with a built in computer to run the software and a battery to power it. The One lost the battery, but added buttons.
currently in the lead of a bid for a OP-1, and watching this vid is encouraging me to get it. $700 and it’s going for $1399 literally half the price. does this thing come with its own software? how do i save my beats?
No software for your computer. On the original you don’t really save as it’s constantly recording to the hard drive. In “album” mode you have two 6 minute segments you can record a full beat on. Saving is not really its strong suit haha
So the reality is is your pretty much paying $1000 more for the field to have multiple projects saved without running away to save a song that's struggling at 80% creativity. That's where the 1k extra lies. Yeah well for someone that is right around the corner to buying I feel ya that the O/G is 90% the same machine but frick Im gonna be a sampling mastermind and having 1 slot sucks balls.
Receiver and transmitter yes! The original could only receive. Though I've yet to see or even think of a situation where transmitting would have any utility haha
Dog ate my first one out of college. Now got a reall life. My wife will eat the second one.
🤣🤣🤣
he is so passionate about the thing and its features. imagine one day he discovers DAW and VSTs
🤣
@@Leviathan-mj8gi you got querty keyboard or midi controllers wich have better keys than op1 and pads and if you say is not portable im coming to your house with my laptop and akai mpk mini in my bagpack :D
@@raphaelmejia319 that setup is frankly not as tight as a package. If you only had one choice, you should get the laptop and akai. If you already have those, time for a OP-1.
@@AiMaTay yeah but how many times do you really need a keyboard size groovebox? yes I could use it in my lap on the bus but someone would steal it from me, so the only places people can really ouse op1 outside home are their hotel or friend/studio room with a desk so any of those my laptop can work aswell wven without midi controler. Pluus if you have an ipad op 1 is basically dead cause is smaller and has more than 4 tracks and you can undo your mistakes basically op 1 is very fun but not 2000 usd fun
Name any hardware synth that has as many features as a DAW. Not everyone wants to be limited to sitting at a computer to make music
I'd say, if you can afford the Field, then definitely get that over the OP-1. There will be a point where the lo-fi, horrible noise floor of the OG will limit your production as you get better with it (at least that's what happened for me). As I got better at production, it felt like it was a real limitation. The 32bit signal chain of the Field will mean it's finally able to make proper studio quality files. For me that raises it to the next level
i think the used market for the op-1 is a bit overstated… i don’t think there are a ton of people rushing to sell their v1s. price of the v2 is a definite point of contention for existing v1 owners and i don’t think a bunch of v1 folks are rushing out to buy the v2. its possibly on the horizon though. i bought one (hasn’t shipped yet) but even still i’m in no hurry to offload my v1. i love my v1 op-1 and always will… a desert island machine. ideas are priceless and worthless and a machine with immediacy and convenience to quickly experience the difference is very valuable imo :)
I've always wanted one of these. It's gonna take a little time since I'm still in such a massive transition point in my life. But i'd be using this thing in every one of my songs.
Just got an OP-1 for $590 on eBay free of any problems. Now I’m just trying to read the owners manual and watch as my videos as possible. I will have to check out your skillshare videos. Thanks for your post because I was really thinking of getting the “field”. Still might get it for the ability to save ideas and Bluetooth. My setup is mostly BT. Thanks again.
No one makes videos about the defective OP-1 units TE sold. I am the owner of one. It’s was ok for the first couple years but it had its quirks like not wanting to hold a charge. Then after a TE firmware update, it no longer would connect to any other device. Essentially it broke the usb connectivity. Sent it to a TE repair center and they determined it was a faulty board. But they wouldn’t repair it because the warranty expired. Even though it was their update and faulty board that was the cause. It left me feeling quite bitter and I will never buy another one of their products again because they don’t stand behind their hardware. Which is disappointing because I thought that is the whole point of buying from and supporting a boutique manufacturer.
I had one of those units as well. Super frustrating. I ended up replacing the board myself which was actually super easy, but the parts are very hard to get a hold of and sell out very quickly. This was a few years ago so I’d imagine it’s tougher now? But yeah I wouldn’t say their customer service is nearly as good as larger companies like Moog or Sequential.
Its a lot of money but I am tempted. I bought my original OP-1 right after they came out in the US, like you I use it in almost every performance. It is one of my favorite devices, along with the Electron Octatrack. I actually just replaced the battery on my OP-1, it finally died after all those years.
What do you find yourself using the Octatrack for? I keep seeing people rave about Elektron stuff!
Thought the field would have atleast more tracks . I know theres lots you can do with 4 tracks on these things but a couple more would have been good
I own the v1 version and not planning to upgrade. I love how I can jam together with my Crumar Seven. That ons combines synthesis and samples too and every day I find new ways to better blend the sound. Oh and on holiday I only was allowed to take one bag. So I'v e chosen to take less clothes with me and in the air I was recording at night :)
That's the way to do it haha!
great video and advices 🙏🏻🎹
They raised the price of the original model when they released the new one, just as the prices were starting to come down to a reasonable level. I’m just a hobbyist so its totally keeping me away. If they had a way to sell it cheaper instead I might get it and then get hooked and want to upgrade later.
The OP-Z has a lot of similar sounds for a much smaller price point. I think it’s very underrated!
I am considering picking up an OP1 Field but the fact that I can now get an ipad pro with Logic Pro for a lower price is a bit crazy.
Gotta have to think on it for a while
dude i found one at guitar center for $800!!! the only issue was a broken volume knob, but everything else works flawlessly!
i hope to pick up the field one day, but not until i am fluent with my new baby op-1 :)
That's awesome bro! Great find! And that volume knob is super easy to fix. ifixit has some great step by step guides
Nice vid! The appearance of the Field makes me want to push my OG OP-1 more. There are creative ways to get a stereo mix for all synths on the OG- just hard pan L and R tracks 1 and 2 and record slightly differently modulated sequences of the same preset (or wildly different) onto each. The only thing I dislike is the aliasing on a lot of synths, and the field gets rid of that I think. But for heavily sample-based tracks- OG OP-1 can manage just fine.
Absolutely!!
@@Leviathan-mj8gi it is what it is- the synth engines are lo fi and don’t pretend not to be. 16-hour battery life and small form factor came at a trade off. It’s pretty incredible that they got 24 hours battery life in the new version with 32-bit sound, in the same form factor.
You didn't mention the updating 32bit which is much cleaner. so not alway LoFi.
In theory yes, but honestly I work mainly in Logic which converts all 32bit wavs into 24bit anyways so it's not really a selling point to me.
@@SoloRay Still the synth sounds are much cleaner. Though I understand as I use Live 11 and Logic.
Lmao... The joke is on anyone who buys it for $2000 when it's not worth more than $300... It's the same ridiculous vanity of buying a $2000 iPhone when a $99 Android does all the same things... 💥
If only either version of the OP-1 had direct multi-timbral sequencing, quantizing, and the ability to save multiple, fully editable sequenced projects. Y',know, like the OP-Z, still the best bang-for-buck IMO. Sure, the OP-1 is a super-fun inspiration machine, but once that inspiration hits I reach for the Z to get busy.
Can you imagine some sort of midi recording on the op-1? That'd be so cool
Gotta agree with @edgeof60, having the field I would trade for a opz field in a heartbeat (if it existed). Even though there are multiple tapes, as of the time being they’re constrained to the same tempo. On the opz, I could have multiple projects, each with its own tempo. This seems like a pretty easy sw patch though and I couldn’t imagine TE not implementing that functionality soon!
@@danielprovder Just put it in a sturdier aluminum housing. Done deal!
Great machine even if so expensive!
The only big doubt, Can you export the tracks separately but also with effects ?
It's possible ?
On the original op-1 no !
Do you mean export individual tracks but with the mix bus processing? Sort of. You can always solo the tracks one by one and print things that way. There are only four tracks so it’s not that time consuming. Part of the reason the mix bus effects are cool is how things interact together. Like with the compressor or the filter or something, it wouldn’t sound exactly the same if printed separately and added back together later. Different flavors for different needs!
got one used for 720euro with a case, i cant imagine them producing it any longer and since iv been lusting after it for 10 years. looking at the current inflation it should actually be a nice investment lmao
Was the song at 6:00 done on op-1 field?
Most of the drums and synths yes, with overdubbed guitar and bass in Logic.
@@SoloRay really well done! Really caught my attention. That’s some very strong talent, I hope your out there getting your songs heard.
This was genuinely useful, thanks!
I’d I can get a new OP 1 Field for $1300 should I get it?
It's weird watching some of these audio gear videos when you know most of them are trying to sell you the new latest piece of gear in some form or another. I enjoy my OP-1. I remember all the other youtube channels selling me on the OP-1 BUT this new OP-1 is just SO much better lol I'm kidding. The OP-1 is good enough. The unfortunate side is most these cats are not being truly real with you. Most of this gear is gimmicky af and they know it, you can hear it in the vocal tonality while trying to sell you the next piece of gear. The OG OP-1 is sick.
Exactly! The whole point of the video is that the original is excellent and the minor improvements of the op-1 field don't really warrant an upgrade unless you REALLY love TE.
Op-1 should be 300 max
I think no one is selling their old OP-1s now to pay for a double priced OP-1. That's just not going to happen.
I was actually looking for this kind a review, because I really want an OP-1 for a while, but it was too pricey. Now I can find a lot of them used for half the price... But why ? It was hard to get it for hundred bucks less used than new some month ago !
It so stange that it made me think, maybe I need an OP-1F because the OP-1 is garbage ? ^^ But I don't even have the money for a classic OP-1 ! hahaha
But what sold me the OP-1 is because I have a very good sampler, I just want synth engine.
The mother reverb sounds amazing where the OP-1 classic have a very bad reverb for what I do (mostly ambiant stuff)
The projects thing was what I was waiting for the OP-1 to drop my money... but, not that kind of money ^^
Of course, if I fall in love with my OP-1, I may want to upgrade to an OP-1F someday, but I can sell some gear for something I know to be good for my workflow and creativity, not just to try something that cost more than a full month of hard work and see if it workd for me.
So thanks, I too, think it's a really good time to finally buy an OP-1 ;)
Sorry for the word vomit:
Been eyeballing the OP-1 for YEARS. Bought an OP-Z a couple years ago as a compromise to the price and haven't regretted it at all (except for the normal complaints of bending and double trigs). Of course, I would abso-fuckin-lutely buy an OP-Z Field. Anyways, I think it's kinda lame that it says OP-1.5 on the bottom of it when the young TE rep at Superbooth said, "This is the next 10 years of OP-1." I kinda don't buy it, but who knows?
That being said, I ordered one. The costs of either of them new is hilarious, so I figured I might as well splurge because I'm bein boujie and always wanted one. $175 a paycheck over the next 6 months on paypal credit (interest free) vs $125 for the OG. I'm wondering if a granulator effect would help justify the cost in some people's minds, or if what they plan on adding would eventually make people say, "Ohhhh okay."
For example: I got an MPC Touch around the time the original MPC Live came out (2017). My rationale when comparing them was, "Why would I pay almost twice as much for way less functionality sacrificed for portability?" Then over time they released firmware updates. HUGE updates that eventually sold me on it when the Live II rumors started in the FB groups.
Even though it didn't work out for me last time, people should definitely buy things for what they are and not what they hope to be. Though more and more companies seem to be doing this. Releasing products without their full capabilities and trickling them out in firmware updates as a continuous promotion campaign. So, what I'm saying is TE already knows what's going to be released on most of the future firmware updates, and I'm just hoping they make it 1.5x better than the original. I'm gonna call it the OP-1.5 from now on, regardless.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi limits require creativity to work around them. A less is more deal. The op-z is an incredibly creative portable tool, so is the OP-1F and the value is there for me. If it’s not for you, that’s understandable. Have you ever messed with a Touch? It controls the same software as the Live/X/One, it just requires a computer and a wall wart, but the computer can make it more powerful than any of the other units in standalone. Strictly speaking in the box of course, not for someone with lots of external gear. I sold my Touch to get a Live II for portability and external gear integration.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi the MPC Live is essentially a Touch with a built in computer to run the software and a battery to power it. The One lost the battery, but added buttons.
2:27 nice lick lol
currently in the lead of a bid for a OP-1, and watching this vid is encouraging me to get it. $700 and it’s going for $1399 literally half the price. does this thing come with its own software? how do i save my beats?
No software for your computer. On the original you don’t really save as it’s constantly recording to the hard drive. In “album” mode you have two 6 minute segments you can record a full beat on. Saving is not really its strong suit haha
Wow this a amazing device. Want 1
Cool insights!
Hit me with your OP-1 hot takes
So the reality is is your pretty much paying $1000 more for the field to have multiple projects saved without running away to save a song that's struggling at 80% creativity.
That's where the 1k extra lies. Yeah well for someone that is right around the corner to buying I feel ya that the O/G is 90% the same machine but frick Im gonna be a sampling mastermind and having 1 slot sucks balls.
some people will say the limitations will help you be more creative.
I guess it varies on case to case basis.
I just got mine on Facebook marketplace for 700… dude was selling it because he just bought the the field 🤷🏻♂️
Mint condition as well
That's a steal!!
Teenage is Apple …but Apple is better in SAV
op-1 field has radio function too?
Receiver and transmitter yes! The original could only receive. Though I've yet to see or even think of a situation where transmitting would have any utility haha
@@SoloRay I guess you can make a wireless connection with your stereo system, by transferring the OP-1 signal to the FM tuner.
BS, nobody will sell gen1 to buy 3 times more expensive new gen2. and it is much to expensive. best time to buy is 5 years ago.
New one and old one is expensive looks like im stuck with the po.ko till i win the lottery