S34 Road traffic Act 1988 Driving a mechanically propelled vehicle elsewhere than on a road. Unless he picked it up and placed it on the footway he has committed a crime. Even if he did he is still parked illegally and obstructing the Queens highway so he should put his own house in order.
These guys are protecting things like nuclear warheads. You can understand their uneasiness of a mysterious man recording their military equipment factory. Its kinda like if you flew a drone over area 51.
I don't speak to them even if they identify themselves, I'll be polite enough at first but where I come from anyone approaching and questioning you is not taken lightly, for the simple fact it's none of their fucking business and unless/until I commit a crime, nobody has any reason to be anywhere near me, let alone reeling off questions trying to find out everything they can, it's something nobody with good intentions does. Only someone looking to sell you something, or fine you for something digs around like that with complete strangers uninvited.
First day of training school - Professional Standards Notes - don't chew gum when you're addressing members of the public...looks like they both missed that day.
yes but his job is on site not out in public he is a nobody bit of advice don't talk to much she is writing down everything you are saying she has already told you you are not breaking any law so end interaction by asking if you are being detained if not just walk away from them so stop talking as anything you say will be used against you
and any repercussions of sought on site , employers insurance scheme will cover him on site , BUT it will not cover him offsite ,, a security person in our town tried to apprehend off site in a car park , got put in hospital,, insurance would not cover as outside of his envelope stay safe
Enjoyed the video served my time on the yard 1980 intake, left home (Barrow) early nineties. Interesting to see how things have changed. In my memory I remember that part of the dockside full of small shops, welders leckies etc, our workshop on reactor squad, also their used to be a but where apprentices went Friday afternoon to complete log books for the week. All before the DDH. Still get back to see my parents, but rarely venture down to the yard, quite shocked by all the changes to the dockside. Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
Keep doing a good job, but goodness you chatter almost non-stop. That doesn’t help you and can only hinder you if you say something the police can try to use as an excuse to take further (likely unlawful) action against you. Try talking less as you’re not under an obligation to justify your lawful activity.
Thanks for saying "not under an obligation" and not "not obliged". The correct term is "not obligated", not that i am correcting you, its just an example. I dont know why it grinds my gears but it does. Just like the officer saying "you're not obliged". YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED!!
It should be obligatory for people to use the correct terms. They have an obligation to oblige to the rules of language so i feel less obligated to teach them.
There is an order prohibiting the police from chewing gum. It was passed by The House of Commons on the 5th July, 1928 and is recorded in Hansard. It looks unprofessional.
Dear Mr MAT 12128 ve vish to thank you for your very interestink photographs of a naval base in the United Kingdom zat has been interestink us for some time. Ve never thought of just taking pictures from a nearby public bridge as in mother Russia zees could neffer happen as ve just make citizens with kameras disappear, permanently. Please keep up ze good work. Signed, Admiral Konstatin Gorashev, Russian Navy Intelligence Department. (PS could you perhaps photograph an actual ship leaving ze dock?) Thank you.
John - There is a beautiful cathedral in salisbury with a big spire. It is a popular city for visiting tourists from your motherland. You should give it a visit sometime. Bring some vodka please.
@@topcat1358 Yeah I was just using the old Russian Spy thing to point out the silliness of the police questioning Citizens over their using a camera near a Naval dock. I was stationed down there fo a couple of years so know it well. Peace .
@@mikelee8243 that training doesn't help them all, I've met many unhinged armed police running around with glocks, rifles and live ammunition, funnily enough most of them were female too.. trust the women to be more trigger happy and emotional than the men.. lol
But you must understand, these poor police officers are in absolute fear for their lives, they are just waiting, trembling in fear for the next terrorist attack on police stations.. wait.. did I say next? I meant first, ever. LOL they know they're pushing people to breaking point that's why they're paranoid. They know pretty soon people will be taking to the streets looking to completely strip them and the government of their power to fuck us as they have done for decades. And they fucking should be. History has long since proven we are very close to having a revolution or a civil war, it's happened time and time again and for far less tyranny I might add. They have a reason to be scared shits going to hit the fan soon.
@2:37 ,, "can I take your name"" naaaaaaa,, I need it ,,,,, On another basis ,, "harassment" is when an action has taken place more than once , which then will/can lead to "breach of the Peace" if persistent becomes section 5 public order offence stay safe
Worked at this shipyard when the nuclear subs were being built. As a keen amateur photographer took reams of film inside and outside of many vessels. Today’s paranoid police are scared stiff of a guy with a camera taking pictures of empty docks!!!!!!! Remember, there is still one road out of this town.
That’s a result ! I was visiting HMS Victory in the 90’s and low and behold a sub came sailing past ! Fantastic ! Never seen one in the flesh before so out came my 35 mm camera and my accompanying lack of skills . . . And more army than you can shake a stick at Lol if only I had the gear then I’ve got now I’d have 10x better pictures plus footage and no one would have been any the wiser lol 😆
Not entirely true. There are places that are listed as restricted, as I recall the Barrow shipyard is one of them with notices telling you so on the walls.
This is a great vid .. I dont see any harm in chatting with the cops at the end..its all friendly and even if she is writing down a description of Mat it dont matter cus he's not doing anything wrong .
I remember workin there ...on our induction at BAE we were told not to talk about anything of the ship yard out of work... was actually told terrorists were caught on that bridge on time planning an attack.. which I found funny/bullshit just to force their point
I learnt the other day from another youtuber's video the Ports have their own police and each time I see one of them talk to a photographer they are really good and don't push for ID. I learn't that they are the oldest Police force in the UK, before Sir Robert Peel's "Bobbys". I have known all along that almost every security guard the world over thinks they are John Rambo/Kojak rolled in to one.
Love it when the hi viz folks come out with there radios thinking there Johnny big spuds asking all kinds of questions then you point the camera at them and there like don't film me well karen you walked up to a man holding a camera what do you thinks going to happen.
To any coppers watching this: I took photos and video (at 60 frames a second) of the GSHQ Government satellite ground station near Bude, Cornwall. Should I expect multiple teams of SAS abseiling soldiers into my house soon?
That first security thinks hes something, asking for name like hes a copper. Have word ask what hes doing fair enough but to try stop him doing a lawful activity and asking for a name like hes some kind of detective plus the sub they build can sit hundreds miles of any country and listen into communications launch nuclear weapons and remain undetected for months on end but one guy with a Mobile phone and shit theres a danger ahead
What an amazing site to audit, well done. But will you stop talking so much to security and police! The more you talk the more likely your words will be twisted against you. They are not your friends!
How many people does it take to harass a law abiding photographer? It’s ironic that they always mention terrorism when they are the ones doing the terrorising and trampling on people’s freedom.
And yes it is terrorising, imagine what it would be like for a female or youngster or even just a normal bloke who does not know his rights. And that is why i love my job
There aren’t any ship launches now. There hasn’t been one for nearly twenty years. The security guards should have listened to what you were saying as they would have realised that you don’t know anything.
The offences being committed was two vehicles that were parked half on the kerb and on double yellows. Also it needed mentioning that they were outside of their jurisdiction....
You could have pointed out that he has committed a road traffic offence by driving over the footpath, causing an obstruction and parking on double yellows.!!!
Stop talking to the Muppets. You don't have to explain anything to them. Give someone a Hi-Viz jacket and they get silly. And the next time someone says "Current climate" I shall scream and scream and scream! And just where do they get these coppers from these days. What the hell is she writing down?
Should of hit him with a quick question before the first security guy departed. Asked him if he was aware he,s in breach of a road traffic act for 2 reasons, parked on double yellows and also blocking full use of a pedestrian footpath.
So how many workers of BAE worked there for 35 years as a fitter? Her pencil was happily scribbling away to narrow down who you are, and get it from RUclips if necessary. Then you're on a list, then try and leave the UK, or enter other countries whilst on that watch list ! Why are the police worried about the security of corporations, but not the safety of children ?
I love that comment, the current climate, my come back would be like covid 19, lock down, tier 1,2, or 3, BLM, Brixit ! Can anyone remember what the climate was like back in the 70's when the IRA were bombing the mainland ! ?
The current climate of unlimited spending on untrained cops fitted with every device you can think of for no apparent reason.... What a waste of tax payers money 💷
My dad used to work at Salford docks , I too have an interest in docks . Seeing ocean going ships coming 40 miles inland was fascinating. These guys are paranoid they see a British amateur photographer with a dog ( usually) taking photos in a public area . Why do they feel they need to do an investigation.
Why are police and security worried about a man with a camera filming in public which we are allowed to do great filming Stay safe retired lifeboatman uk
The current climate.?? Yeh summer is over and winter is coming, so wrap up warm sheeple.
more security wankers than workers, have to prove they are needed so they don`t have to be traffic wardens again
S34 Road traffic Act 1988 Driving a mechanically propelled vehicle elsewhere than on a road. Unless he picked it up and placed it on the footway he has committed a crime. Even if he did he is still parked illegally and obstructing the Queens highway so he should put his own house in order.
Try the local DWP office for G4s arse holes.
These guys are protecting things like nuclear warheads.
You can understand their uneasiness of a mysterious man recording their military equipment factory. Its kinda like if you flew a drone over area 51.
@@alexiboo7309 they should build a wall around it then lol
always digging even when they tell you they're not.
Whilst you were talking the female officer was writing a detailed description of you and all the clues that you gave when just having ‘friendly chat’.
yesa proper pair of horribhle lying bastards pretending to be friendly.
I remember my Grandad talking about Barrow shipyard with great pride. Very sad to see the changes.
Bah. Should have asked the guard if he can swim. No reason to explain yourself to anybody.
He takes his SIA badge off as soon as he realised he was on camera. Never never speak to anyone who won’t identify themselves.
He has to identify himself via his BADGE if not SACK HIM IMMEDIATELY
If they wouldn't identify the conversation was over and they were ignored. Name and badge number were the 1st words out of my mouth.
I don't speak to them even if they identify themselves, I'll be polite enough at first but where I come from anyone approaching and questioning you is not taken lightly, for the simple fact it's none of their fucking business and unless/until I commit a crime, nobody has any reason to be anywhere near me, let alone reeling off questions trying to find out everything they can, it's something nobody with good intentions does. Only someone looking to sell you something, or fine you for something digs around like that with complete strangers uninvited.
First day of training school - Professional Standards Notes - don't chew gum when you're addressing members of the public...looks like they both missed that day.
Haharrrr..."There's pics on there of my missus with nowt on" what a great answer.
😆 👏
I hope to see it in your videos @focus pocus from now on
yes but his job is on site not out in public he is a nobody bit of advice don't talk to much she is writing down everything you are saying she has already told you you are not breaking any law so end interaction by asking if you are being detained if not just walk away from them so stop talking as anything you say will be used against you
and any repercussions of sought on site , employers insurance scheme will cover him on site , BUT it will not cover him offsite ,, a security person in our town tried to apprehend off site in a car park , got put in hospital,, insurance would not cover as outside of his envelope
stay safe
Well said mate! Well valid points.
Well said bloody nice one lol x
the longer he can engage with them the more chance they may slip up and do something unprofessional.
I love this auditor he engages well and he doesn't give in to police requests and demands.
Sat here in Australia looking at the place my Great Grandfather worked in the early 1900's. I'm sure it was busier then.
Little chat is their way of FISHING!!!!!
Whats the lads doing in the boat like?
Enjoyed the video served my time on the yard 1980 intake, left home (Barrow) early nineties.
Interesting to see how things have changed. In my memory I remember that part of the dockside full of small shops, welders leckies etc, our workshop on reactor squad, also their used to be a but where apprentices went Friday afternoon to complete log books for the week. All before the DDH.
Still get back to see my parents, but rarely venture down to the yard, quite shocked by all the changes to the dockside.
Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
Can Johnny “two radios” get anymore kit on his batman vest???
🤣 i thought the same
Keep doing a good job, but goodness you chatter almost non-stop. That doesn’t help you and can only hinder you if you say something the police can try to use as an excuse to take further (likely unlawful) action against you. Try talking less as you’re not under an obligation to justify your lawful activity.
Cheers for the input
Why the stupid lie to the security guy! "I won't put this on RUclips" Your filming from a public place which is lawful. Otherwise good on you.
@@mat12128 Ignore the negative comments from the auditor wannabees. You run your channel as you wish.
Thanks for saying "not under an obligation" and not "not obliged".
The correct term is "not obligated", not that i am correcting you, its just an example.
I dont know why it grinds my gears but it does. Just like the officer saying "you're not obliged".
YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED!!
It should be obligatory for people to use the correct terms. They have an obligation to oblige to the rules of language so i feel less obligated to teach them.
There is an order prohibiting the police from chewing gum. It was passed by The House of Commons on the 5th July, 1928 and is recorded in Hansard. It looks unprofessional.
The way you keep repeating yourself over and over, will keep them there.
Exactly :)
In the 80s as an air cadet we tested Vickers security. They failed miserably
Dear Mr MAT 12128 ve vish to thank you for your very interestink photographs of a naval base in the United Kingdom zat has been interestink us for some time. Ve never thought of just taking pictures from a nearby public bridge as in mother Russia zees could neffer happen as ve just make citizens with kameras disappear, permanently. Please keep up ze good work. Signed, Admiral Konstatin Gorashev, Russian Navy Intelligence Department. (PS could you perhaps photograph an actual ship leaving ze dock?) Thank you.
Shit, they were right all along!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John - There is a beautiful cathedral in salisbury with a big spire. It is a popular city for visiting tourists from your motherland. You should give it a visit sometime. Bring some vodka please.
@@topcat1358 Yeah I was just using the old Russian Spy thing to point out the silliness of the police questioning Citizens over their using a camera near a Naval dock. I was stationed down there fo a couple of years so know it well. Peace .
@@VadoVoodoo The only problem was you did a german accent not a russian one.
@@rexoid0800 Maybe the character was raised in East Germany? Ha ! Never thought of THAT eh? :)
The 2 young police officers were great, other police forces should learn from them.
They were 2 of the best coppers i have come across and will be duly rewarded next month. Stay tuned!
@@mat12128 Armed police receive extensive training unlike normal constables, still cant stand em though..
@@mikelee8243 that training doesn't help them all, I've met many unhinged armed police running around with glocks, rifles and live ammunition, funnily enough most of them were female too.. trust the women to be more trigger happy and emotional than the men.. lol
The current level of paranoia in the UK is sad
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But you must understand, these poor police officers are in absolute fear for their lives, they are just waiting, trembling in fear for the next terrorist attack on police stations.. wait.. did I say next? I meant first, ever. LOL they know they're pushing people to breaking point that's why they're paranoid. They know pretty soon people will be taking to the streets looking to completely strip them and the government of their power to fuck us as they have done for decades. And they fucking should be. History has long since proven we are very close to having a revolution or a civil war, it's happened time and time again and for far less tyranny I might add. They have a reason to be scared shits going to hit the fan soon.
@2:37 ,, "can I take your name"" naaaaaaa,, I need it ,,,,,
On another basis ,, "harassment" is when an action has taken place more than once , which then will/can lead to "breach of the Peace" if persistent becomes section 5 public order offence
stay safe
‘BLM’ - had a good laugh at that. You’re stand-up game is improving.
Worked at this shipyard when the nuclear subs were being built. As a keen amateur photographer took reams of film inside and outside of many vessels. Today’s paranoid police are scared stiff of a guy with a camera taking pictures of empty docks!!!!!!! Remember, there is still one road out of this town.
Yep, as did my dad
That’s a result ! I was visiting HMS Victory in the 90’s and low and behold a sub came sailing past ! Fantastic ! Never seen one in the flesh before so out came my 35 mm camera and my accompanying lack of skills . . . And more army than you can shake a stick at Lol if only I had the gear then I’ve got now I’d have 10x better pictures plus footage and no one would have been any the wiser lol 😆
Anything you can see from a public space you can record it's the law . Nuff said
Not entirely true. There are places that are listed as restricted, as I recall the Barrow shipyard is one of them with notices telling you so on the walls.
This is a great vid ..
I dont see any harm in chatting with the cops at the end..its all friendly and even if she is writing down a description of Mat it dont matter cus he's not doing anything wrong .
Yep, wish ppl would get that....top cops they were
I remember workin there ...on our induction at BAE we were told not to talk about anything of the ship yard out of work... was actually told terrorists were caught on that bridge on time planning an attack.. which I found funny/bullshit just to force their point
What is this fixation the police have with getting your details?
I learnt the other day from another youtuber's video the Ports have their own police and each time I see one of them talk to a photographer they are really good and don't push for ID. I learn't that they are the oldest Police force in the UK, before Sir Robert Peel's "Bobbys". I have known all along that almost every security guard the world over thinks they are John Rambo/Kojak rolled in to one.
Love it when the hi viz folks come out with there radios thinking there Johnny big spuds asking all kinds of questions then you point the camera at them and there like don't film me well karen you walked up to a man holding a camera what do you thinks going to happen.
SILENCE is Golden.
Good how she wrote your full description, and still talking to you 😂👍
To any coppers watching this: I took photos and video (at 60 frames a second) of the GSHQ Government satellite ground station near Bude, Cornwall. Should I expect multiple teams of SAS abseiling soldiers into my house soon?
Now why would a copper need two identical phones? Maybe so he can call himself for a chat because nobody else wants to talk to him?
That first security thinks hes something, asking for name like hes a copper. Have word ask what hes doing fair enough but to try stop him doing a lawful activity and asking for a name like hes some kind of detective plus the sub they build can sit hundreds miles of any country and listen into communications launch nuclear weapons and remain undetected for months on end but one guy with a Mobile phone and shit theres a danger ahead
This is how police officers should act 👌🤜🏼 two very nice and polite humans in uniform and we need more policemen/woman like this!!! Well done 🙏🤜🏼👌😘
yes they were the best i have met and i will be doing a video next month following up on my positive encounters with Barrow police
Nothing to worry about
What an amazing site to audit, well done.
But will you stop talking so much to security and police! The more you talk the more likely your words will be twisted against you. They are not your friends!
When did the British Bobby morph into this new generation of black clad, weaponised, storm troopers? :(
Is that public land you're filming from mate ?
Both chewing gum and one wearing an ear ring or possibly a tattoo, so professional.
What’s wrong with that? He was actually okay, could have been much worse
As my old Dad would say "you could talk the hind leg off a donkey "
Lmao, i am actually pretty quite away from this!
Cammell Laird is just down the road from me, it is an interesting story indeed
How many people does it take to harass a law abiding photographer? It’s ironic that they always mention terrorism when they are the ones doing the terrorising and trampling on people’s freedom.
And yes it is terrorising, imagine what it would be like for a female or youngster or even just a normal bloke who does not know his rights. And that is why i love my job
There aren’t any ship launches now. There hasn’t been one for nearly twenty years. The security guards should have listened to what you were saying as they would have realised that you don’t know anything.
The offences being committed was two vehicles that were parked half on the kerb and on double yellows. Also it needed mentioning that they were outside of their jurisdiction....
if the ship yard was that top secret i’m sure bae would put 100 foot high fence round the lot of it
Very professional chewing gum! I’m sure your skipper would be pleased!
You could have pointed out that he has committed a road traffic offence by driving over the footpath, causing an obstruction and parking on double yellows.!!!
Armed police for a camera shocking is there no crime in that area what a pathetic waste of tax payers money
Righting down a description of you whilst you chat. Haha sneaky split arse
wow! that male officer couldn't fit more intimidating tactical kit to his body if he tried!!
i'm surprised he can stand up properly lol.
kind regards.
How much crap has he got attached to his webbing?
Good God! I thought the entire UK had heard of Cammell Laird and Harland and Woolf
Security have as much authority as a lollipop lady
Same as a copper then?
@@MikeEves well obviously they have more authority
Is railway line into complex still used? Notice no cars parked over the line
No has not been since about 1980
Stop talking to the Muppets. You don't have to explain anything to them. Give someone a Hi-Viz jacket and they get silly.
And the next time someone says "Current climate" I shall scream and scream and scream!
And just where do they get these coppers from these days. What the hell is she writing down?
Should of hit him with a quick question before the first security guy departed. Asked him if he was aware he,s in breach of a road traffic act for 2 reasons, parked on double yellows and also blocking full use of a pedestrian footpath.
Yes i had a massive missed opportunity there, i realised a few days later! Will be on it next time!
Who is it in the boat?
More security!
What’s the blokes in the boat doing like?
Security eyeing me up!
@@mat12128 not a bad job sat in a boat all day doing nowt
@@jld9107 Maybe not the best job for the last week or so 🥶
If it was secret or sensitive they would have put a non see through fence.
That is on my list of suggestions for future audits!
Commonly known in colloquial terms as a 'wall'..
@@VadoVoodoo .. Actually, on a bridge, it would be a security/anti throw screen.
@@Ubique2927 A bit of a mouthful but screen would work too! 👍
@@VadoVoodoo Yes but a screen can be solid or see through. Maybe it would be one of those "Anti Filming Non-See through see through screens".
no eye sockets on that guy, repetition still. lol you said youd edit him out
lol you didnt
And no SIA badge, what makes them think that they can ask for your details and harass you in public. Current climate, seemed like a nice day
Did those two cops have a bet on how many items they can hang on their costumes.
Shes writing a shopping list out for mummy.
what lens you got has it not got image stabilisation on it
all for someone with a camera ! lol jesus what a complete waste of time. they never seem to learn lol
Finally, some nice police officers.
They just have to stick their noses in don't they?,why can't they leave innocent people alone.
that 12 year old pc bird taking a description of you whilst he chats away.... sneeky
You did not edit that bit out.
What on earth was she drawing in her notebook that took her ages, during the other chaps conversation/interview??
It's a old ship yard....U can find out loads on Google.
So how many workers of BAE worked there for 35 years as a fitter? Her pencil was happily scribbling away to narrow down who you are, and get it from RUclips if necessary. Then you're on a list, then try and leave the UK, or enter other countries whilst on that watch list ! Why are the police worried about the security of corporations, but not the safety of children ?
Hi Matt trying to contact you bud..
What's up?
@@mat12128 wanted permission to mirror a couple of your vids mate... will obviously put channel url in etc...
I love that comment, the current climate, my come back would be like covid 19, lock down, tier 1,2, or 3, BLM, Brixit !
Can anyone remember what the climate was like back in the 70's when the IRA were bombing the mainland ! ?
Birkenhead! I'm from Wallasey :)
welcome to uk, soon to be a full POLICE STATE, shamefull
Security guard has a job if you broke into the yard not getting a power buzz confronting you on the bridge haha
The current climate in Antarctica is freezing the current climate in Sahara desert is very hot the current climate here is
got more radios than the BBC
the police say you are doing nothing wrong but they ask you for your details
The current climate of unlimited spending on untrained cops fitted with every device you can think of for no apparent reason.... What a waste of tax payers money 💷
One thing, you talk too much. Silence is golden. You don't owe them all that information.
bet she's writing in her journal about how it pisses her off that some people know their rights
Brilliant! 😁
It’s been said already. Too much talking, not enough silence. You have no obligation to give out your info whilst doing a legal activity.
I think you forgot to edit the security gaurd bit out 😂🤣😂🤣
Security thinking he can actually demand your ID hilarious. You might want to take a picture of him parked on double yellows and report him.
"The current climate"....well it's warm, sunny intervals, no chance of rain. Is that dangerous ?
You really need to get yourself a windsock and ideally a backup camera for when you're showing footage to police.
My dad used to work at Salford docks , I too have an interest in docks . Seeing ocean going ships coming 40 miles inland was fascinating. These guys are paranoid they see a British amateur photographer with a dog ( usually) taking photos in a public area . Why do they feel they need to do an investigation.
Just crazy ain't it
Il edit this bit out 😂😂
;)
Current climate... windy?
They was alreet them 2 guys respect.
chewing gum so unprofesional
Trying looking under ISPS about filming on uk ports not allowed
Why are police and security worried about a man with a camera filming in public which we are allowed to do great filming Stay safe retired lifeboatman uk
any more gear and they wont be able to walk. imagine running with all that shite on you