@@doctorhugocat the national is a long termer, which, given how slowly we do things, will be decades away probably! It's also not mine, although I expect I'll get involved with it..
What a job. My 1940 Opel Kadett looks the same by model but a bit less by rust. But also i have a lot to do on the car. I think it is al do-able. Maybe the German steel was better. It also has several rotten area's but not like your car. Even the color is the same. A real 60's color. Regards from the Ardennes
@@gerhard6105 ooh, I'll check out your channel, I do like an old Opel! I think this cars done pretty well really, yes it's rotten, but until 4 or 5 years ago this car was a daily driver, and spent its entire life outside parked on the street and used in all weathers, so I'm not too upset by the corrosion, it's had a life, it's entitled to be tired. It's probably in better condition than lungs, and I'm a lot younger than the car!
I mean, at teh moment its a collection of holes loosely held together by some metal - but at least the shape is there . Good luck. I cant wait to see it back on the road & wafting.
Yorkshire car resto did a Datsun 240. That was in that shape. He must have had 600 patches in that car. I would do the same with that. Lots of small pieces shaped and welded in. iE back panel. Cut out a small piece. Weld in a small piece. You don’t have a English wheel . You need a brake.
@@Doggymcdoggy664 I suspect quite a bit of it will be smaller patches but I'll avoid it whenever possible, more weld, more distortion, and I hate welding, so the bigger the piece, the smaller the weld, happy me..
@@andrewmalyon5699 very kind to say thanks. They are rather dull videos, but all of mine are.. I'll be entirely honest, I have no idea how I'm going to approach this yet. If it was a French car from the 80s or 90s I'd know exactly what to do, but this is somewhat out of my comfort zone. I know how I'd like to do it, but I just don't have the space, facilities or ability to make a jig, attach body to it and make it good. So I'll wing it and hope for the best. At this stage I don't think I can make it any worse.. I'm kinda OK with it, because I knew it was horrific before I bought it. I think if I'd expected better and saw this I'd have cried, but, even though it is still worse than I thought, it's not that much worse, so I'm not losing sleep over it, as to whether I have the ability to actually make it a decent car, well, probably not, but I'll chip away at it and see how it goes...
Quality of metal in 1951 could have been a bad mix. Maybe wasn’t expecting car to last 73 years. Guess I could read up on metals in 51. Could have been all kinds of trash in the mix. We didn’t have a lot of metal after the war. could have come from a commonwealth country. I think Austin had there own steel plant. My Dad would be known. He just passed away. He was a Black Country man. Had contracts to fix roofs in BL . Jaguar. Jenson. Aston. Land Rover. He worked at the steel mills in his twenty’s. Round oak steel works. Maybe metal in weldable.
Even at the beginning of the '50s steel was often in short supply for industry in the UK, especially for domestic market cars. It's perfectly possible that the quality could have been variable!
Again though, to be fair to the steel, and the car, it lived outside its entire life, it was used daily in all weathers, and it has been neglected quite badly since it passed on from Mr. Webb. So all things considered I think the cars done pretty well really
Out of curiousity, if you jacked/blocked both sides of the body at the back at the same time, would that help the body to start returning to its original form as the "memory" in the metal tries to return to its original shape (you can help this by applying some localised heat to distorted areas and quenching with wet rags to reduce any stretching ----- I had this on a cattle feeder wagon last week where the rotor chopper drum housing was distorted and used this method of tensioning the distorted area then applying the oxy to the bent metal to restore shape and quench the areas I didnt want to move, if that makes sense).
@@stevehill4615 that's definitely in the plan. Although I want to retain as much of the outer skin of the car as possible, but the areas in the boot floor are all going, so I want to cut out the worst of it, Jack the rear end to somewhere about where I think it should be, weld some metal in to give it at least some structure bad see how it looks thereafter.. But I'm not remotely a pro, never touched a sheerline before and the chances of getting it wrong are high I imagine!
@@adventuresinrust1644 Oh I agree with what you're saying about the floor replacement, but if the body shell can be "pulled" a bit straighter (I normally find you have to manipulate a little bit beyond what is it's normal "set" in order to take account of the metal "springback" when the tension is released) then putting the new metal in, it should give you a good basis from which to work from.
@@stevehill4615 oh, absolutely, happily it's all so loose at the back end I can lift it by hand at the moment, but you're bang on the money, I think I ought to get the dents and stress out of the roof first, then see how much I can tweak the back end up so it'll hopefully sit about right without any stress in the panel, I'll find out in the coming weeks just how good I am at faking being a car repair guy!
14 mins in. Geees. Worse than I thought. Under all that paint is fibreglass Bondo. Shame. That looks like ocean air got to that car. I think the last owner had full year around fun in that car. Good for him. Rode hard put away wet👍
@@Doggymcdoggy664 it spent nearly it's entire life in Bristol, aside from the last few years, and although I guess you could say we have some water here, it's not proper sea side, just a stream with illusions of grandeur really.. But yeah, until just a few years ago (4 or 5) this car was a daily driver, always lived outside and racked up some impressive mileage!
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Superb ,thanks
Great progress!! The Leyland National looks a bit grumpy that the Sheerline's getting all the attention.
@@doctorhugocat the national is a long termer, which, given how slowly we do things, will be decades away probably!
It's also not mine, although I expect I'll get involved with it..
What a job. My 1940 Opel Kadett looks the same by model but a bit less by rust. But also i have a lot to do on the car. I think it is al do-able. Maybe the German steel was better. It also has several rotten area's but not like your car. Even the color is the same. A real 60's color. Regards from the Ardennes
@@gerhard6105 ooh, I'll check out your channel, I do like an old Opel!
I think this cars done pretty well really, yes it's rotten, but until 4 or 5 years ago this car was a daily driver, and spent its entire life outside parked on the street and used in all weathers, so I'm not too upset by the corrosion, it's had a life, it's entitled to be tired. It's probably in better condition than lungs, and I'm a lot younger than the car!
I mean, at teh moment its a collection of holes loosely held together by some metal - but at least the shape is there .
Good luck. I cant wait to see it back on the road & wafting.
@@micrashed mostly filler I think mate, but yeah, I also can't wait to waft around in this car!
A big job, very but doable. The end result will be worth the effort.
Absolutely, it'll be a fine old land yacht soon
Yorkshire car resto did a Datsun 240. That was in that shape. He must have had 600 patches in that car. I would do the same with that. Lots of small pieces shaped and welded in. iE back panel. Cut out a small piece. Weld in a small piece. You don’t have a English wheel . You need a brake.
@@Doggymcdoggy664 I suspect quite a bit of it will be smaller patches but I'll avoid it whenever possible, more weld, more distortion, and I hate welding, so the bigger the piece, the smaller the weld, happy me..
I really look forward to Sheerline videos,you do not seem at all faised by the amount of rust holes,I'm curious how your going to do the rear end .
@@andrewmalyon5699 very kind to say thanks. They are rather dull videos, but all of mine are..
I'll be entirely honest, I have no idea how I'm going to approach this yet.
If it was a French car from the 80s or 90s I'd know exactly what to do, but this is somewhat out of my comfort zone.
I know how I'd like to do it, but I just don't have the space, facilities or ability to make a jig, attach body to it and make it good. So I'll wing it and hope for the best. At this stage I don't think I can make it any worse..
I'm kinda OK with it, because I knew it was horrific before I bought it. I think if I'd expected better and saw this I'd have cried, but, even though it is still worse than I thought, it's not that much worse, so I'm not losing sleep over it, as to whether I have the ability to actually make it a decent car, well, probably not, but I'll chip away at it and see how it goes...
Quality of metal in 1951 could have been a bad mix. Maybe wasn’t expecting car to last 73 years. Guess I could read up on metals in 51. Could have been all kinds of trash in the mix. We didn’t have a lot of metal after the war. could have come from a commonwealth country. I think Austin had there own steel plant. My Dad would be known. He just passed away. He was a Black Country man. Had contracts to fix roofs in BL . Jaguar. Jenson. Aston. Land Rover. He worked at the steel mills in his twenty’s. Round oak steel works. Maybe metal in weldable.
Even at the beginning of the '50s steel was often in short supply for industry in the UK, especially for domestic market cars. It's perfectly possible that the quality could have been variable!
Again though, to be fair to the steel, and the car, it lived outside its entire life, it was used daily in all weathers, and it has been neglected quite badly since it passed on from Mr. Webb. So all things considered I think the cars done pretty well really
Out of curiousity, if you jacked/blocked both sides of the body at the back at the same time, would that help the body to start returning to its original form as the "memory" in the metal tries to return to its original shape (you can help this by applying some localised heat to distorted areas and quenching with wet rags to reduce any stretching ----- I had this on a cattle feeder wagon last week where the rotor chopper drum housing was distorted and used this method of tensioning the distorted area then applying the oxy to the bent metal to restore shape and quench the areas I didnt want to move, if that makes sense).
@@stevehill4615 that's definitely in the plan. Although I want to retain as much of the outer skin of the car as possible, but the areas in the boot floor are all going, so I want to cut out the worst of it, Jack the rear end to somewhere about where I think it should be, weld some metal in to give it at least some structure bad see how it looks thereafter.. But I'm not remotely a pro, never touched a sheerline before and the chances of getting it wrong are high I imagine!
@@adventuresinrust1644 Oh I agree with what you're saying about the floor replacement, but if the body shell can be "pulled" a bit straighter (I normally find you have to manipulate a little bit beyond what is it's normal "set" in order to take account of the metal "springback" when the tension is released) then putting the new metal in, it should give you a good basis from which to work from.
@@stevehill4615 oh, absolutely, happily it's all so loose at the back end I can lift it by hand at the moment, but you're bang on the money, I think I ought to get the dents and stress out of the roof first, then see how much I can tweak the back end up so it'll hopefully sit about right without any stress in the panel, I'll find out in the coming weeks just how good I am at faking being a car repair guy!
@@adventuresinrust1644 Like any of us, you can only try and see how it goes, good luck.
@stevehill4615 well, I'm 8 grand into it so far, so I'm going to try very hard to blag it!
Thanks, I'm going to need a lot of luck..
14 mins in. Geees. Worse than I thought. Under all that paint is fibreglass Bondo. Shame. That looks like ocean air got to that car. I think the last owner had full year around fun in that car. Good for him. Rode hard put away wet👍
@@Doggymcdoggy664 it spent nearly it's entire life in Bristol, aside from the last few years, and although I guess you could say we have some water here, it's not proper sea side, just a stream with illusions of grandeur really..
But yeah, until just a few years ago (4 or 5) this car was a daily driver, always lived outside and racked up some impressive mileage!
Hello mon ami anglais!
Comment vas tu ?
Je travaille sur ma tzd turbo en ce moment 😊
@@patou86 Bonjour mon ami
J'espère que tu vas bien
Que fais-tu sur le bx ?
En mettez-vous des vidéos ?
@@adventuresinrust1644 ça va, merci. Oui je suis embeter sur le branchement faisceau moteur..
Oui, je fais des vidéos😉😊
@patou86 Heureux de l'entendre.
Bon sang, je viens de découvrir ta chaîne ! Génial.
Je me suis abonné en utilisant mon autre compte, que j'utilise principalement pour regarder les contenus des autres.
@@adventuresinrust1644 OK, avec plaisir 😉😊