The yoke was given to him as a gift since no other pilot could comfortably fit their hand on the deep impression his white knuckle death grip left on it.
And the other piece of good fortune is that Capt Behnam is a charismatic very articulate communicator, which means he can tell the story so well for all our benefits.
I was a private independent contractor, some years ago, asked by GE Turbine Engine engineers to study blade off containment. My background was developing ballistics armor and explosives containment technologies with the miltary. GE actually tested one their static fixtured engines by firing a chicken into the running turbine and watched approximately 1 1/2 blades dislodge into the stator and nacelle shroud. Blade off velocity is roughly 1100 ft per second,or similar to a 9mm or 40 cal. That loose blade or blades could easily penetrate the fuselage,and depressurize the cabin or even cause fatalities or injuries to passengers as happened years ago. Newer aircraft have blade off containment shrouds made layers of kevlar and aluminum. That is what the GE engineers asked me to develop, was possibly lighter solutions. I successfully came up with newer more advanced ,stronger and lighter materials based on my ballistics background. I do not know to this day if they used those solutions. It was great fun to develop composites and shoot them with simulated projectiles though.
I hope the dedicated "crash test chickens" were fresh and not frozen when launched into the fan blades?! I guess those that exited the core came out in diced pieces, well done and tenderized KFC or McNuggets!? It's fascinating watching the super high speed film/video of these destructive tests!
@@v1rotait23 That actually happened at the test facility,I was told. One engineer took a dead chicken out of the refrigerator and forgot to defrost it. Needless to say the bird did not function as per specifications.
Part of an FAA certification requires "bird-shot" tests on aircraft engines. Airframe manufacturers are also required to do these tests on specific parts of the airframe
I'd like to do a shout out to Captain Tammy Jo Schultz. I know her incident didn't involve a P&W engine, but the scenario was the same. She is one of my personal role models. Such an inspiration to women who came behind her in aviation.
He is a wonderful guy. This isn't self promotion like I've seen before, this is a responsible pilot sharing his experience with his peers. He was recognised as performing with outstanding airmanship and I say he should be proud of that. Who wouldn't be?
The relief that one can file a lawsuit out weights most anything else. Look at the article in the paper postguam on 06-04-2020 " Gail Cassidy, a resident of California and Guam, is seeking no less than $1 million in punitive damages each from United, the Boeing Company and Pratt & Whitney, an aircraft engines manufacturer. She is also seeking compensatory damages from all three companies under various causes. The suit was initially filed in the Superior Court of Guam on Feb. 12, a day before the two-year anniversary of the incident. On Monday, United filed a notice at the District Court of Guam removing the matter from local purview and into the federal court. "
@@digitt2 After a sliding fall down a glacier that ended suddenly (I thought I would die or be badly hurt) I was shouting with joy and jumping up and down!!!
Capt. Behnam is in the class of Neil Armstrong. Exceedingly cool under pressure, thoroughly knowledgeable of the flights systems, and flawless in execution. Bravo and then some!
The mental matrix containing all aspects of where your airplane is, how it's interacting with the world, and how inputs can/likely will affect that status is something schools seek to train but is very hard to do. Knowing the books by heart does NOT meaning knowing and understanding the aircraft (or any system for that matter)
I flew with him a few months after this event. He's a great Captain and deserves all the accolades he's getting. In airline flying, there is a LOT more to being a good pilot than just your stick and rudder skills, particularly as Captain. In the 777, you're sitting next to a guy on flights for up to 14 hours. Creating and maintaining a harmonious work environment isn't easy for some folks. Yet it's probably one of the most important elements of being a Captain, particularly when the feces hits the blades and the stress level spikes.
@@Airplane_Willy Indeed. Due to Aviation Herald it was exactly this plane who did now the substitution flight from Denver to Honululu after the Denver incident.
Much credit to Capt Behnham for his fantastic input. But also much credit to Juan and his excellent reputation that makes it possible for him to have full access to such outstanding material and making it available to us all.
It looks as though it was more akin to flying a jackhammer while trying to juggle and recite every national anthem backward for 40 minutes than flying a plane. All credit to those pilots that award was well deserved
Juan, You hit this one out of the park! Great interview with Captain Behnam , followed up with this great piece. Gets pretty "wordy" when you try to express thanks for all you do for aviation and service to the flying community. Great content, humility, and production quality!
Captain you certainly earned your pay that day. Flying is easy until things go to hell in a baby buggy. That is where a professional like you can save the day. Congratulation sir and thank you.
Okay, I get that the simulator can’t handle the vibration levels in this incident, but is their still value in simulating other aspects of this situation? First, the initial upset and recovery maneuver where you get a bang, autopilot and auto throttle both trip off and the aircraft rolls to a 45 degree angle at .83 Mach while all engine instrumentation appears normal. Following recovery keep as much drag dialed in on the side with the engine failure and make sure the autopilot and auto throttle won’t re-engage. Then force the crew to start a drift down where they have to hand fly the plane and figure out a new speed envelope and avoid stalling the plane. Once they do that end the simulation. Do this much without the vibration that the sim cannot do. I think that training would be beneficial even without the vibration aspect. Also, the engine severe damage checklist should have a note that states the engine displays on the EICAS may show their last valid value for 15-30 seconds before blanking so that the crew are aware that there is a period of time where normal engine displays could be shown with an engine that has really failed.
CRM done right. A truly outstanding job by the entire team. Discussion about a single pilot ops comes up from time to time, just as it is being discussed for Boeing's NMA project, but when you find yourself in an emergency, especially in a case like this, those extra arms, eyes, and brain make a huge difference to the outcome, especially when the crew works together as well as this crew did.
Perhaps an interview with a passenger and flight attendant would complete this great series. I bet a number of them are still connected on social media.
Yep, an interview with this passenger. Look at the article in the paper postguam on 06-04-2020 " Gail Cassidy, a resident of California and Guam, is seeking no less than $1 million in punitive damages each from United, the Boeing Company and Pratt & Whitney, an aircraft engines manufacturer. She is also seeking compensatory damages from all three companies under various causes. The suit was initially filed in the Superior Court of Guam on Feb. 12, a day before the two-year anniversary of the incident. On Monday, United filed a notice at the District Court of Guam removing the matter from local purview and into the federal court. "
The NTSB did find probable cause was a fan blade crack that got missed by Pratt’s inspectors. Therefore, Pratt is likely liable under US law for damages for psychological trauma to the passengers.
I can honestly say I just viewed the video with the captain of this aircraft. Rarely do I watch anything that brings tears to my eyes with the thought of the bravery and call to action in an emergency and the crew performance that occurred with this engine failure. When he spoke of the realization of having 381 souls on board and the impact of that responsibility struck me like a hammer. Fantastic interview and honest assessment of this emergency. Great job, God bless all of you.
The animated video was great for demonstrating the extraordinary challenges, or difficulties what the crew faced on the final 200 mile leg on that fateful flight. It was heart-wrenching in its conclusion, because it dawned on me, that all those people on board in effect are living their second lives. There are simply not enough thank yous, to thank captain Behnam, (who comes across as a charming, likable grandfather type), and of course the entire crew of that flight.
6:37 Very inspiring. My experience with humanity in general has been depressing lately. Seeing Capt Behnam speak these few words was very uplifting. He and Juan both have my thanks .
Your excellent coverage of UAL #1175 shows how catastrophic it could have been for UAL #328. Both crews did great jobs managing a crippled aircraft and making it safely back on the ground. I think the successful outcome of both of these incidents show that there is no adequate substitute (autopilot/autothrottles) for thorough training, which includes AQP and true airmanship. Thanks for another great video Juan.
This crew was freaking fantastic. This is the type of experienced crew that every passenger hopes is manning the cockpit. So many great crews in the airline industry, honing their craft everyday preparing for a situation like this. To those guys and gals, we may not know your name, but we know you’re there, and we thank you.
Great video. Boeing should share in the congrats as that plane with stood the violent shaking you couldn't submit a stimulator to.. Thanks for sharing. I'm
The airlines need more pilots with that much experience behind them. If that had happened with a less experienced crew the outcome could have been very different. A lesson for the whole industry, not just the crews.
I believe before the flight they all had hairstyles like Elvis. But in all seriousness that was some outstanding work on their part keeping the plane together
I actually enjoyed the Interview with captain Behnam, and agree it's great for FAA to have a live person along with the CVR in investigations.C L R is very good & now being implemented in many other lines of work today not just aircraft or aviation. Hand flying should be made mandatory by FAA if it isn't already...👍
There's a really good channel "the flight channel" here on youtube. A simulation recreates all sorts of real incidents. There are a lot of situations where the plane fails, and the pilots have no idea what to do. They become too reliant on the computer, with horrible consequences.
a well deserved reward!! Having flown 40 years myself and 22 years on a 742/743/744/748 my highest respect for true professionalism and airmanship which seems to be disappearing.
@@demef758 you are right. They are a shining example. Of cool heads. And they appreciate aerodynamics even more. They are an embodiment of airflow. Seriously annoyed though, that Boeing had no cameras on the engines. That the third pilot had to go and video the thing from a cabin window is unexplainable to me.
I have a very small list of pilots I will never hesitate to fly with. Captain Behnam just took the number 1 spot. Sorry Sully, but being number 2, is still great. Thanks for a great animation of what would have been with a less experienced pilot, a disaster. Oh and Juan, you are on the list.
Juan, all your videos are of outstanding quality. You keep outdoing yourself and the interview with captain Behnam has to be your best work! Like you said almost an hour went by pretty quick. What an amazing, just wonderful person captain Behnam is! Outstanding job him and the two other pilots did saving many lives that day.
like flying a CEMENT MIXER only a cement mixer rides/drives smoother. moral of the story: keep flying all the way to the "crash" (for it may yet work out).
Captain Benham has the tools for the job and really knows how to use them. I'd fly or ride with him anytime. Juan's interview with him was literally breathe taking.
It’s great how all this is coming out. The great pilotage training our great US aviators go thru... it’s ironic that the rescue plane for FLT 328 was Capt Behnam’s plane 2473
I was reading and trying to understand every bit of this. The slides at the end needed to roll more slowly. I’m a fast reader and couldn’t keep up with the images and the text. Great outcome. Thanks to a great pilot and crew
Thank you all for this very informative and interesting presentation. Wonderful to have this potentially disasterous event documented, well presented to other pilots and crew members. I think it also can help us non-aviator passengers understand the rigors, pressures, skills and mental perseverance of flight crews and how the synergistic effect of good resource management in crisis plays out in real life. Well done.
Thank you for sharing information, about the Pratt & Whitney fan blade problem. You are the #1 source for airline & flight issues. Thanks, for sharing!
We see a picture of a repair on the fuselage near the end. I understand that the aircraft was eventually put back in service despite the sustained severe shaking that occurred. I am curious as to what calculations or verifications were done to come to the conclusion that the aircraft was serviceable.
Probably went through an extreme heavy check. In D level heavy checks, planes (every single plane goes through this every X years/hours in its life) are almost completely gutted, inspected, repaired, and put back together. That includes all wing and fuselage joints, rivets, attachments, landing gear, etc. Every single removal panel is removed, doors, flaps, seats, etc. It is extremely intense and takes up to 3 months to complete each plane. In this case, there was probably an uncountable addition to what is done on a heavy check. I would imagine the FAA has a process to check the health of all wing spares and supports for cracking
It goes through a Severe Turbulence Check, with engineering and BACO calling out certain areas they want closely inspected, nothing at all like a DCK, not even close.
Awesome dissertation of the incredible story handed to Captain Behnam at this juncture of his aviation career! Wonderfully articulate and detailed presentation, Juan! I love watching your channel - I used to be addicted to watching all the Mayday episodes as long as they were being made - I've never seen as compelling a reality series as that, until now, discovering your channel. Your keen monitoring with your critical stethoscope on the aviation industry is such a much needed service to all aviation participants and enthusiasts everywhere - including us passengers and public.
So many flights where we are just looking at images of those who are no longer here, those who all died that same day. It makes my heart sing to see all these beautiful people alive and moving on with their lives. Say what you may, I think the 777 is one hell of a fine aircraft that can take a tremendous amount of abuse. It's survived bad airmanship but given an amazing crew as this flight had, every soul on board was able to live on.
Mechanical engineer's observation: This incident brings ETOPS into question. Not having seen the original analysis leading to ETOPS approval, were all of the drag factors considered, in addition to loss of 50% thrust? Yes, you can firewall the other engine, but they are not intended to operate continuously flat out (takeoff thrust?). The fact that actual observed long distance drift down altitude is apparently 0 feet MSL, not 20,000' as stated, implies that some of the drag factors were ignored. 1. Drag of the frontal area of a very large diameter engine vs drag of one of the smaller engines on a tri- or quad-jet. 2. This engine drag is more than just the frontal area, as there are several full diameter flanges sticking out along the length of the engine. Each individual flange adds more to the total engine drag. These additional flanges are normally not exposed, but hidden from the airflow behind the cowling. 3. Some drag force added to spin the windmilling fan. 4. The engine core may not be windmilling much, since it is geared to and still driving auxiliaries. Thus part of the barn door. 5. Drag of rudder and ailerons at full deflection. 6. Drag of fuselage flying slightly sideways.
A great video detailing what words can not fully explain or convey. A salute to Capt. Behnam and the entire flight crew for a exceptional job well done. Thank you Juan for this great video. May it garner 1M views so everyone can appreciate what really happened.
Great story and great video Juan. Fantastic airmanship by Chris and his crew. What a wonderful story with an even better ending. The other side of the coin would not have had the same results.
Juan, I am not a pilot, only an enthusiast. In 2002 Stanley Stewart wrote "Emergency-Crisis on the Flight Deck". It was a compilation of successful aviation crisis'. Perhaps someone should do a modern book as well as video equivalent. I never fail to be impressed by the professionalism, ability, and numerous other virtues of pilots who have given happy endings to what could have been disasters. Although I suppose I shouldn't forget that any of these good outcomes included the work of numerous people, air and ground, who act as ad hoc teams in a crisis. Hope I wasn't too lengthy on this.
What a great animation! I missed the interview you did - I've got to go back and watch that. Hate how RUclips ended email notifications. Why they did this I have no clue. Makes no sense. Nice work, Captain Behnam and crew!
Great animation. Vell done. Incidents of this nature can be reproduced in the simulator, but not for 40 minutes, for the reasons you mentioned. I'm sure when you returned to the sim, you may have gone through the new UPRT training, which is fairly severe. Initially after implementation, there was damage to the simulator, but corrections were made with no further issues. It would be somewhat difficult to add this scenario to any lesson plan from a regulatory standpoint. In a nutshell, it's very much doable, but like the 320 in the Hudson which was implemented in one of our sims, but none of the pilots that flew the scenario, succeded, because these are one of those occasions where real stick and rudder skills are needed. Just like your Husky reauires. Like the A330 that ran out of fuel, because of a leak, and glided more than 120 miles, even making a 320 to loose altitude, to a successful landing. Stick and rudder skills. P&W is about to feel Boeing:s pain.
Like the interview video, this leaves me speechless. All I can say is thank you to the folks who got that aircraft safely landed. And, thank you to the folks who took the time to create this content, share it, and enrich our lives. Kind regards, South Africa
Captivating content as usual. This series is excellent material about cockpit management, crew training, experience, leadership, and command decision making. The remarks that this incident cannot be duplicated in a flight simulator gives credit to Boeing's robust airframe design of the 777.
This was a GREAT simulation JB. Please thank Capt Chris. It was well done. To the point. Awesome but scary after seeing your interview with the Capt. Take care and fly safe. 🖖🏽🤟🏽
Just listened to this interview on a 90 minute freeway drive, and it made the trip go in a flash. Bit dangerous though, I had to take my hands off the wheel to applaud at a couple of points. Absolute pro, as were his copilots, and he seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy into the bargain. Bravo Capt. Behnam, and thank you Juan for a fascinating and exciting interview!
Very emotional Juan. Blacolerio channel strikes again. We all want to be good at our job and do a good job. This is a wonderful example. Being happy for this crew and their care, I also think its a tribute to those who didn't make it, especially for the crews that did their best.
No debate - you have the best content of any of the aviator channels. The interview was excellent. The crew was appropriately recognized. Captain Behnam is a accomplished Aviator & Check pilot - the only negative: a little too much self aggrandizing by Captain Behnam (book, movie, speech contracts). He would do well to observe how you operate.
If that isn't the extremist of pressures in which to operate...nothing is. To maintain a composure and have the ability to think clearly in those circumstances is nothing short of phenomenal. Congrats Capt. Behnam and crew for an extremely brave act of heroism in returning that aircraft and all souls on board to a safe landing...the alternate ending to the whole situation is not worth trying to comprehend. Whilst this does not overshadow the more recent event, the situation in which you found yourselves over the Pacific and so far from land...it certainly adds the further hero status to the heroics and cool nature of the pilots and crews of both incidents. God speed and safe flying to you all int the future!!!! Cheers from Aus!!!!
Just a great video - The incredible insight second by second in some cases answered tons of questions and reinforced the importance of basic airmanship
It took 30 seconds for the pilots to realize engine failure, while the passenger can immediately see engine has problem from the window. There has to be fix for that delay.
Some 777s have a camera system that can see the engines. It’s a limited angle of viewing though. Not sure if the plane in the incident had them or not, but I’d imagine if that even if it did, those guys wouldn’t have been able to push the button to turn on the cameras due to vibrations, and they probably wouldn’t be able to see the screens clear enough to make out what happened.
amazing airmanship by the cockpit crew. Great to see them alive to share their experience with others in this unique situation. Thanks to Captain Behnam and Captain Juan to share this great video with the public. Well done. A side note: background music was very loud preventing the viewer to hear the narrative.
"The four corners" of the aircraft should be covered by cameras to give immediate situational awareness for the crew. Was this covered in the list of recommendations?
Keep us all in-the-loop on the findings of the NTSB on United flight 328 over Colorado. Thanks Juan for the informative interviews and the breaking news about these Pratt & Whitney engines. -Kevin in Colorado
Great animation. Regarding the simulators, why couldn't they vibrate only the seats to the degree necessary? The effect would be the same for the pilot without stressing the whole simulator.
@@laurinpestes5569 It's desirable to replicate the challenging conditions they faced if you can do it without damaging the simulator or the instruments. Vibrating just the seats would accomplish that.
When an engine manufacturer becomes lazy or complacent, this happens. One would have hoped that this type of issue wouldn't have recurred after the findings came in...but it has... This was an excellent video once again, Juan. Thank you.
As you said the Sim would self destruct, thank you Boeing for creating an air frame that could take the abuse and allow 381 souls to arrive safely. The crew was the right crew to make this happen.
Wonderful interview ,yes it was! Listening to Capt B describing the sequence of events was super cool.i still picture in my mind when he said the fan blade broke off and the immediate drag pushing him towards the windshield,then the aircraft rolling 45 * degrees!!! He said full aileron was applied ,left rudder and aircraft hesitated then just froze! Until finally it started responding,then pitching the nose down with help from his copilot!! Wow!! I can imagine how that felt and looked inside the cabin!! Crazy stuff!! Great man!
It gets an airman's attention that the vibration was so severe that finding buttons and reading checklist was next to impossible. Also if the vibration level were to be reproduced by programming a simulator, it would cause the simulator's hydraulics, electronics and screens to fail. Definitely a noteworthy rough day in the office that will be remembered by that crew and passengers. May we engineer better maintenance procedures, engine/airframe/autopilot configurations, quicker updated engine telemetry performance to guard against this scenario moving forward. Luckily Captain Chris Behnam was up to the task of Stick & Rudder hand flying this crippled aircraft with informed decision making the transition decent through the IMC to a safe landing. Glad their making the aviation community aware of this more common problem concerning propulsion blades.
The yoke was given to him as a gift since no other pilot could comfortably fit their hand on the deep impression his white knuckle death grip left on it.
And the other piece of good fortune is that Capt Behnam is a charismatic very articulate communicator, which means he can tell the story so well for all our benefits.
Articulate huh?
Correct
@@noway4281 yes
I was a private independent contractor, some years ago, asked by GE Turbine Engine engineers to study blade off containment.
My background was developing ballistics armor and explosives containment technologies with the miltary.
GE actually tested one their static fixtured engines by firing a chicken into the running turbine and watched
approximately 1 1/2 blades dislodge into the stator and nacelle shroud.
Blade off velocity is roughly 1100 ft per second,or similar to a 9mm or 40 cal.
That loose blade or blades could easily penetrate the fuselage,and depressurize the cabin or even cause fatalities or injuries to passengers as happened years ago.
Newer aircraft have blade off containment shrouds made layers of kevlar and aluminum.
That is what the GE engineers asked me to develop, was possibly lighter solutions.
I successfully came up with newer more advanced ,stronger and lighter materials based on my ballistics background.
I do not know to this day if they used those solutions.
It was great fun to develop composites and shoot them with simulated projectiles though.
I hope the dedicated "crash test chickens" were fresh and not frozen when launched into the fan blades?! I guess those that exited the core came out in diced pieces, well done and tenderized KFC or McNuggets!? It's fascinating watching the super high speed film/video of these destructive tests!
@@v1rotait23 That actually happened at the test facility,I was told.
One engineer took a dead chicken out of the refrigerator and forgot to defrost it.
Needless to say the bird did not function as per specifications.
@@jimhenry7173, Yes. I'd read that same story long ago too!
Actual testing is the key here. Those darn theoretical calculations are useless--they always assume spherical chickens.
Part of an FAA certification requires "bird-shot" tests on aircraft engines. Airframe manufacturers are also required to do these tests on specific parts of the airframe
I'd like to do a shout out to Captain Tammy Jo Schultz. I know her incident didn't involve a P&W engine, but the scenario was the same. She is one of my personal role models. Such an inspiration to women who came behind her in aviation.
Read her book. It’s really good.
He is a wonderful guy. This isn't self promotion like I've seen before, this is a responsible pilot sharing his experience with his peers. He was recognised as performing with outstanding airmanship and I say he should be proud of that. Who wouldn't be?
Maybe a little self-promotion?
@@n3roc 😹
@@n3roc Not like certain Qantas pilot....
@@n3roc
who says that's a bad thing...
The relief of not dying cannot be underestimated.
😂👍
The relief that one can file a lawsuit out weights most anything else. Look at the article in the paper postguam on 06-04-2020 " Gail Cassidy, a resident of California and Guam, is seeking no less than $1 million in punitive damages each from United, the Boeing Company and Pratt & Whitney, an aircraft engines manufacturer. She is also seeking compensatory damages from all three companies under various causes.
The suit was initially filed in the Superior Court of Guam on Feb. 12, a day before the two-year anniversary of the incident. On Monday, United filed a notice at the District Court of Guam removing the matter from local purview and into the federal court. "
The air is cleaner, the water is fresher, the sun is brighter that's for sure
@@digitt2 After a sliding fall down a glacier that ended suddenly (I thought I would die or be badly hurt) I was shouting with joy and jumping up and down!!!
Did you mean overestimated?
Capt. Behnam is in the class of Neil Armstrong. Exceedingly cool under pressure, thoroughly knowledgeable of the flights systems, and flawless in execution. Bravo and then some!
Amazing pilots, speaking of Armstrong, the third pilot's name is Gagarin!
The mental matrix containing all aspects of where your airplane is, how it's interacting with the world, and how inputs can/likely will affect that status is something schools seek to train but is very hard to do. Knowing the books by heart does NOT meaning knowing and understanding the aircraft (or any system for that matter)
I flew with him a few months after this event. He's a great Captain and deserves all the accolades he's getting. In airline flying, there is a LOT more to being a good pilot than just your stick and rudder skills, particularly as Captain. In the 777, you're sitting next to a guy on flights for up to 14 hours. Creating and maintaining a harmonious work environment isn't easy for some folks. Yet it's probably one of the most important elements of being a Captain, particularly when the feces hits the blades and the stress level spikes.
United: 2 crazy engine failures, 2 successful landings, 0 fatalities....clearly United is doing something right
and P&W is not...!
@@philiproseel3506 amen to that
I would add Boeing to that list. The airframe had to withstand all of that and I assume is still in service.
@@Airplane_Willy Indeed. Due to Aviation Herald it was exactly this plane who did now the substitution flight from Denver to Honululu after the Denver incident.
Maybe United central purchasing should reconsider the engine supplier
Much credit to Capt Behnham for his fantastic input.
But also much credit to Juan and his excellent reputation that makes it possible for him to have full access to such outstanding material and making it available to us all.
It looks as though it was more akin to flying a jackhammer while trying to juggle and recite every national anthem backward for 40 minutes than flying a plane. All credit to those pilots that award was well deserved
I can tell OP is a European because an American pilot would've buckled at the notion of knowing multiple national anthems
Juan, You hit this one out of the park! Great interview with Captain Behnam , followed up with this great piece. Gets pretty "wordy" when you try to express thanks for all you do for aviation and service to the flying community. Great content, humility, and production quality!
Captain you certainly earned your pay that day. Flying is easy until things go to hell in a baby buggy. That is where a professional like you can save the day.
Congratulation sir and thank you.
I'm glad cpt made this animation because on the internet, the severity of this issue is greatly understated.
Okay, I get that the simulator can’t handle the vibration levels in this incident, but is their still value in simulating other aspects of this situation?
First, the initial upset and recovery maneuver where you get a bang, autopilot and auto throttle both trip off and the aircraft rolls to a 45 degree angle at .83 Mach while all engine instrumentation appears normal. Following recovery keep as much drag dialed in on the side with the engine failure and make sure the autopilot and auto throttle won’t re-engage. Then force the crew to start a drift down where they have to hand fly the plane and figure out a new speed envelope and avoid stalling the plane. Once they do that end the simulation. Do this much without the vibration that the sim cannot do. I think that training would be beneficial even without the vibration aspect. Also, the engine severe damage checklist should have a note that states the engine displays on the EICAS may show their last valid value for 15-30 seconds before blanking so that the crew are aware that there is a period of time where normal engine displays could be shown with an engine that has really failed.
CRM done right. A truly outstanding job by the entire team. Discussion about a single pilot ops comes up from time to time, just as it is being discussed for Boeing's NMA project, but when you find yourself in an emergency, especially in a case like this, those extra arms, eyes, and brain make a huge difference to the outcome, especially when the crew works together as well as this crew did.
Perhaps an interview with a passenger and flight attendant would complete this great series. I bet a number of them are still connected on social media.
Yes. I would love to hear what the folks in the back were experiencing.
Yep, an interview with this passenger. Look at the article in the paper postguam on 06-04-2020 " Gail Cassidy, a resident of California and Guam, is seeking no less than $1 million in punitive damages each from United, the Boeing Company and Pratt & Whitney, an aircraft engines manufacturer. She is also seeking compensatory damages from all three companies under various causes.
The suit was initially filed in the Superior Court of Guam on Feb. 12, a day before the two-year anniversary of the incident. On Monday, United filed a notice at the District Court of Guam removing the matter from local purview and into the federal court. "
@@bobroberts2371 Let hope that the suit gets thrown out. Acts of God occur 24/7/365. Cashing in is the lowest form of greed/entitlement.
The NTSB did find probable cause was a fan blade crack that got missed by Pratt’s inspectors. Therefore, Pratt is likely liable under US law for damages for psychological trauma to the passengers.
When they make the film, Cpt Benham *has* to be played by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson! 👍
At first i thought he was the rock
Totally agree, that would be awesome
Equally heroic in word and deed.
That would be cool, and they can also combine both flight in the movie (UA1185 and UA328).
But he would have to eat a bunch of sandwiches first.
I can honestly say I just viewed the video with the captain of this aircraft. Rarely do I watch anything that brings tears to my eyes with the thought of the bravery and call to action in an emergency and the crew performance that occurred with this engine failure. When he spoke of the realization of having 381 souls on board and the impact of that responsibility struck me like a hammer. Fantastic interview and honest assessment of this emergency. Great job, God bless all of you.
The animated video was great for demonstrating the extraordinary challenges, or difficulties what the crew faced on the final 200 mile leg on that fateful flight. It was heart-wrenching in its conclusion, because it dawned on me, that all those people on board in effect are living their second lives.
There are simply not enough thank yous, to thank captain Behnam, (who comes across as a charming, likable grandfather type), and of course the entire crew of that flight.
6:37 Very inspiring. My experience with humanity in general has been depressing lately. Seeing Capt Behnam speak these few words was very uplifting. He and Juan both have my thanks .
Your excellent coverage of UAL #1175 shows how catastrophic it could have been for UAL #328. Both crews did great jobs managing a crippled aircraft and making it safely back on the ground. I think the successful outcome of both of these incidents show that there is no adequate substitute (autopilot/autothrottles) for thorough training, which includes AQP and true airmanship. Thanks for another great video Juan.
United "Are you bald?"
Pilot "Yes Sir!"
United "Welcome aboard."
Never trust a pilot with a full head of dark hair. Grey or bald only. Old man with a dye job or a toupee is vain and dishonest 😏
This crew was freaking fantastic. This is the type of experienced crew that every passenger hopes is manning the cockpit. So many great crews in the airline industry, honing their craft everyday preparing for a situation like this. To those guys and gals, we may not know your name, but we know you’re there, and we thank you.
Great video. Boeing should share in the congrats as that plane with stood the violent shaking you couldn't submit a stimulator to..
Thanks for sharing. I'm
The airlines need more pilots with that much experience behind them. If that had happened with a less experienced crew the outcome could have been very different. A lesson for the whole industry, not just the crews.
if those three men had not been almost completely bald I fear what could have happened
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I believe before the flight they all had hairstyles like Elvis.
But in all seriousness that was some outstanding work on their part keeping the plane together
I resemble that remark.
That took me a minute
I actually enjoyed the Interview with captain Behnam, and agree it's great for FAA to have a live person along with the CVR in investigations.C L R is very good & now being implemented in many other lines of work today not just aircraft or aviation.
Hand flying should be made mandatory by FAA if it isn't already...👍
There's a really good channel "the flight channel" here on youtube. A simulation recreates all sorts of real incidents. There are a lot of situations where the plane fails, and the pilots have no idea what to do. They become too reliant on the computer, with horrible consequences.
@@davespringer777 100% agree too dependant on computers...
a well deserved reward!! Having flown 40 years myself and 22 years on a 742/743/744/748 my highest respect for true professionalism and airmanship which seems to be disappearing.
Thank you Juan Browne and thank you captain Behnam for the education you're providing to aviation safety. Fantastic presentation and simulation. 👍❤
You can tell the shaking was so violent that the crew’s toupees fell off
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LMAO!
Without the poise of these three pilots under unimaginable pressure, there would be no jokes to tell today.
@@demef758 you are right. They are a shining example. Of cool heads. And they appreciate aerodynamics even more. They are an embodiment of airflow. Seriously annoyed though, that Boeing had no cameras on the engines. That the third pilot had to go and video the thing from a cabin window is unexplainable to me.
They are a bit thinner in the sim...
IT's not often you get teary eyed over something GOOD..
I have a very small list of pilots I will never hesitate to fly with. Captain Behnam just took the number 1 spot. Sorry Sully, but being number 2, is still great. Thanks for a great animation of what would have been with a less experienced pilot, a disaster. Oh and Juan, you are on the list.
Also Carlos Dardano is on mine. Actually, I love aircrafts so much that my list probably would be....very long🤣
Amazing airmanship, no substitute for experience and first class training. Well done guys.
That is why all pilots should lift weights. You never know when you will need to wrestle the controls. Well done Capt..
Juan, all your videos are of outstanding quality. You keep outdoing yourself and the interview with captain Behnam has to be your best work! Like you said almost an hour went by pretty quick. What an amazing, just wonderful person captain Behnam is! Outstanding job him and the two other pilots did saving many lives that day.
A true testament to skilled airmanship. So grateful you all made it safely. I could not imagine how terrifying that experience was.
Incredible airmanship and model crew resource management. Outstanding!
like flying a CEMENT MIXER only a cement mixer rides/drives smoother. moral of the story: keep flying all the way to the "crash" (for it may yet work out).
Great seeing the evolution of your content, Juan. This video and the hour long interview with Capt. Benham were riveting.
Captain Benham has the tools for the job and really knows how to use them. I'd fly or ride with him anytime. Juan's interview with him was literally breathe taking.
This is far more interesting than any news network.
Thank you Captain. You’re a great pilot and a greater man. Thank you Juan for putting this together
What a wonderful story with a happy ending thanks to Captan Behnam.
Awesome. Training, skill and pure grit saved this plane and the souls on board. This was a wing and a prayer that held this plane together.
It’s great how all this is coming out. The great pilotage training our great US aviators go thru... it’s ironic that the rescue plane for FLT 328 was Capt Behnam’s plane 2473
I was reading and trying to understand every bit of this. The slides at the end needed to roll more slowly. I’m a fast reader and couldn’t keep up with the images and the text. Great outcome. Thanks to a great pilot and crew
Thank you all for this very informative and interesting presentation. Wonderful to have this potentially disasterous event documented, well presented to other pilots and crew members. I think it also can help us non-aviator passengers understand the rigors, pressures, skills and mental perseverance of flight crews and how the synergistic effect of good resource management in crisis plays out in real life. Well done.
Thank you for sharing information, about the Pratt & Whitney fan blade problem. You are the #1 source for airline & flight issues. Thanks, for sharing!
We see a picture of a repair on the fuselage near the end. I understand that the aircraft was eventually put back in service despite the sustained severe shaking that occurred. I am curious as to what calculations or verifications were done to come to the conclusion that the aircraft was serviceable.
Probably went through an extreme heavy check. In D level heavy checks, planes (every single plane goes through this every X years/hours in its life) are almost completely gutted, inspected, repaired, and put back together. That includes all wing and fuselage joints, rivets, attachments, landing gear, etc. Every single removal panel is removed, doors, flaps, seats, etc. It is extremely intense and takes up to 3 months to complete each plane.
In this case, there was probably an uncountable addition to what is done on a heavy check. I would imagine the FAA has a process to check the health of all wing spares and supports for cracking
@@M4A1Nerve given the revelations of the 737 Max, you may need to re- imagine the situation.
It goes through a Severe Turbulence Check, with engineering and BACO calling out certain areas they want closely inspected, nothing at all like a DCK, not even close.
Awesome dissertation of the incredible story handed to Captain Behnam at this juncture of his aviation career!
Wonderfully articulate and detailed presentation, Juan! I love watching your channel - I used to be addicted to watching all the Mayday episodes as long as they were being made - I've never seen as compelling a reality series as that, until now, discovering your channel.
Your keen monitoring with your critical stethoscope on the aviation industry is such a much needed service to all aviation participants and enthusiasts everywhere - including us passengers and public.
So many flights where we are just looking at images of those who are no longer here, those who all died that same day. It makes my heart sing to see all these beautiful people alive and moving on with their lives. Say what you may, I think the 777 is one hell of a fine aircraft that can take a tremendous amount of abuse. It's survived bad airmanship but given an amazing crew as this flight had, every soul on board was able to live on.
Mechanical engineer's observation: This incident brings ETOPS into question. Not having seen the original analysis leading to ETOPS approval, were all of the drag factors considered, in addition to loss of 50% thrust? Yes, you can firewall the other engine, but they are not intended to operate continuously flat out (takeoff thrust?). The fact that actual observed long distance drift down altitude is apparently 0 feet MSL, not 20,000' as stated, implies that some of the drag factors were ignored.
1. Drag of the frontal area of a very large diameter engine vs drag of one of the smaller engines on a tri- or quad-jet.
2. This engine drag is more than just the frontal area, as there are several full diameter flanges sticking out along the length of the engine. Each individual flange adds more to the total engine drag. These additional flanges are normally not exposed, but hidden from the airflow behind the cowling.
3. Some drag force added to spin the windmilling fan.
4. The engine core may not be windmilling much, since it is geared to and still driving auxiliaries. Thus part of the barn door.
5. Drag of rudder and ailerons at full deflection.
6. Drag of fuselage flying slightly sideways.
Great animation...hell of a time in the cockpit.
Amazing Juan, great series. Truly “a peak behind the curtain”. Your both true pros!
Wow! Thank you for the animation video. So grateful things turned out the way they did. Really enjoy watching this channel.
A great video detailing what words can not fully explain or convey. A salute to Capt. Behnam and the entire flight crew for a exceptional job well done. Thank you Juan for this great video. May it garner 1M views so everyone can appreciate what really happened.
Right guy at the right time!!! Amazing interview Juan 👍
Great story and great video Juan. Fantastic airmanship by Chris and his crew. What a wonderful story with an even better ending. The other side of the coin would not have had the same results.
shows how real airmanship skills are still important - in fact critical - to safety of life when automated systems fail. Thanks for sharing this JB.
Another great debriefing Juan...keep up the great work.
Thanks to Capt. Benham and to you Juan for making this excellent animation and recap of the incident available for all to see and learn from!
Juan, I am not a pilot, only an enthusiast. In 2002 Stanley Stewart wrote "Emergency-Crisis on the Flight Deck". It was a compilation of successful aviation crisis'. Perhaps someone should do a modern book as well as video equivalent. I never fail to be impressed by the professionalism, ability, and numerous other virtues of pilots who have given happy endings to what could have been disasters. Although I suppose I shouldn't forget that any of these good outcomes included the work of numerous people, air and ground, who act as ad hoc teams in a crisis. Hope I wasn't too lengthy on this.
What a great animation! I missed the interview you did - I've got to go back and watch that. Hate how RUclips ended email notifications. Why they did this I have no clue. Makes no sense. Nice work, Captain Behnam and crew!
I'm afraid to fly, however I'd fly on Captain Behnams's aircraft anytime. After how he saved his 777 & all of passenger's, I trust him with my life.
Great animation. Vell done. Incidents of this nature can be reproduced in the simulator, but not for 40 minutes, for the reasons you mentioned. I'm sure when you returned to the sim, you may have gone through the new UPRT training, which is fairly severe. Initially after implementation, there was damage to the simulator, but corrections were made with no further issues. It would be somewhat difficult to add this scenario to any lesson plan from a regulatory standpoint. In a nutshell, it's very much doable, but like the 320 in the Hudson which was implemented in one of our sims, but none of the pilots that flew the scenario, succeded, because these are one of those occasions where real stick and rudder skills are needed. Just like your Husky reauires. Like the A330 that ran out of fuel, because of a leak, and glided more than 120 miles, even making a 320 to loose altitude, to a successful landing. Stick and rudder skills. P&W is about to feel Boeing:s pain.
Love watching him tell the story and the follow-up video, very cool. He makes us all proud to be pilots.
Like the interview video, this leaves me speechless.
All I can say is thank you to the folks who got that aircraft safely landed.
And, thank you to the folks who took the time to create this content, share it, and enrich our lives.
Kind regards,
South Africa
Captivating content as usual.
This series is excellent material about cockpit management, crew training, experience, leadership, and command decision making.
The remarks that this incident cannot be duplicated in a flight simulator gives credit to Boeing's robust airframe design of the 777.
This incident underscores the importance of having highly experienced pilots like Captain Bentham at the controls!
Thank you for your effort putting all this info together. That interview was fantastic! What an amazing man.
This was a GREAT simulation JB. Please thank Capt Chris. It was well done. To the point. Awesome but scary after seeing your interview with the Capt.
Take care and fly safe. 🖖🏽🤟🏽
Very emotional !
// So grateful !
Just listened to this interview on a 90 minute freeway drive, and it made the trip go in a flash. Bit dangerous though, I had to take my hands off the wheel to applaud at a couple of points. Absolute pro, as were his copilots, and he seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy into the bargain. Bravo Capt. Behnam, and thank you Juan for a fascinating and exciting interview!
Awesome video Juan, thanks for getting this to us. Thanks Captain Behnam.
Very emotional Juan. Blacolerio channel strikes again.
We all want to be good at our job and do a good job. This is a wonderful example.
Being happy for this crew and their care, I also think its a tribute to those who didn't make it, especially for the crews that did their best.
If we could all have the attitude that Captain B has, this world would be a great place
No debate - you have the best content of any of the aviator channels. The interview was excellent. The crew was appropriately recognized. Captain Behnam is a accomplished Aviator & Check pilot - the only negative: a little too much self aggrandizing by Captain Behnam (book, movie, speech contracts). He would do well to observe how you operate.
Wow. What a great story of airmanship. I trust the work you do here Juan to improve safety means that you get to interview more pilots after mishaps.
Blancolirio channel is awesome👍👍 Mad, mad respect.
so happy they were close enough to land that they didn't have to ditch in the middle of the ocean
If that isn't the extremist of pressures in which to operate...nothing is. To maintain a composure and have the ability to think clearly in those circumstances is nothing short of phenomenal. Congrats Capt. Behnam and crew for an extremely brave act of heroism in returning that aircraft and all souls on board to a safe landing...the alternate ending to the whole situation is not worth trying to comprehend. Whilst this does not overshadow the more recent event, the situation in which you found yourselves over the Pacific and so far from land...it certainly adds the further hero status to the heroics and cool nature of the pilots and crews of both incidents. God speed and safe flying to you all int the future!!!! Cheers from Aus!!!!
Just a great video - The incredible insight second by second in some cases answered tons of questions and reinforced the importance of basic airmanship
It took 30 seconds for the pilots to realize engine failure, while the passenger can immediately see engine has problem from the window. There has to be fix for that delay.
Some 777s have a camera system that can see the engines. It’s a limited angle of viewing though. Not sure if the plane in the incident had them or not, but I’d imagine if that even if it did, those guys wouldn’t have been able to push the button to turn on the cameras due to vibrations, and they probably wouldn’t be able to see the screens clear enough to make out what happened.
Amazing Juan!
Thank you! 👍
amazing airmanship by the cockpit crew. Great to see them alive to share their experience with others in this unique situation. Thanks to Captain Behnam and Captain Juan to share this great video with the public. Well done. A side note: background music was very loud preventing the viewer to hear the narrative.
"The four corners" of the aircraft should be covered by cameras to give immediate situational awareness for the crew. Was this covered in the list of recommendations?
I think covering the engines (and maybe wings?) with cameras is being done.
They would have been shaking too bad to be of any use.
@@JeffCounsil-rp4qv Modern image stabilization is pretty good...
Keep us all in-the-loop on the findings of the NTSB on United flight 328 over Colorado. Thanks Juan for the informative interviews and the breaking news about these Pratt & Whitney engines. -Kevin in Colorado
Great animation. Regarding the simulators, why couldn't they vibrate only the seats to the degree necessary? The effect would be the same for the pilot without stressing the whole simulator.
Can't see instruments when they're shaking that hard.
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It's desirable to replicate the challenging conditions they faced if you can do it without damaging the simulator or the instruments. Vibrating just the seats would accomplish that.
When an engine manufacturer becomes lazy or complacent, this happens. One would have hoped that this type of issue wouldn't have recurred after the findings came in...but it has...
This was an excellent video once again, Juan. Thank you.
As you said the Sim would self destruct, thank you Boeing for creating an air frame that could take the abuse and allow 381 souls to arrive safely. The crew was the right crew to make this happen.
Wonderful interview ,yes it was! Listening to Capt B describing the sequence of events was super cool.i still picture in my mind when he said the fan blade broke off and the immediate drag pushing him towards the windshield,then the aircraft rolling 45 * degrees!!! He said full aileron was applied ,left rudder and aircraft hesitated then just froze! Until finally it started responding,then pitching the nose down with help from his copilot!! Wow!! I can imagine how that felt and looked inside the cabin!! Crazy stuff!! Great man!
Awesome animation. Actually very well made. That last piece of engine that broke off could have done some significant structural damage.
We have the JAL blades at work (Pratt) ready to be TA imaged. Pretty mangled mostly at the ends.
We want to see this as a film with The Rock (Dwayne Johnson)! This blows my mind. Thank you for this great animation and narrative!
It gets an airman's attention that the vibration was so severe that finding buttons and reading checklist was next to impossible. Also if the vibration level were to be reproduced by programming a simulator, it would cause the simulator's hydraulics, electronics and screens to fail. Definitely a noteworthy rough day in the office that will be remembered by that crew and passengers. May we engineer better maintenance procedures, engine/airframe/autopilot configurations, quicker updated engine telemetry performance to guard against this scenario moving forward. Luckily Captain Chris Behnam was up to the task of Stick & Rudder hand flying this crippled aircraft with informed decision making the transition decent through the IMC to a safe landing. Glad their making the aviation community aware of this more common problem concerning propulsion blades.
Thank you for bringing us such valuable information & of course thanks to Cap Behnam
Dear Juan: Thank you very much for your insight!
Amazing good aviating men all worked to save the people and aircraft.
Thank you..
Truly a remarkable effort!