As someone who has extensive experience working in hotels, your theory is probably correct. First of all, profit margins can be razor thin some months. Hotels are carefully designed so that they don't have too many or too few rooms so that space and money aren't wasted and efficiency is maximized. Having a secret room for anything other than purposes of marketing doesn't make any sense at all, because we want to use every bed we have. You can see evidence of this from the reddit post in that the hotel was booked solid but his colleague was able to score a room. This was likely the last room available for rent so they decided to let them stay in it instead of kick them out. On top of that, it's always good when you can show management that you sold the hotel out on your shift. Lastly, large hotels can have high employment turnovers with most people getting paid between 9-14 dollars an hour. These are everyday people just like me, not Yale scholars or secret fraternity members. If there was really something nefarious up with that room, a former or even current employee would've talked by now. The housekeepers will know about it and even the front desk obviously knows about it, so your talking about hundreds of everyday people knowing about this room. Someone would've talked by now, especially if they had left on bad terms with the hotel. Fun analysis to watch though!
The truth is actually way more mundane than a marketing scheme. The truth is, this IS just a themed room. This hotel has plenty of themed rooms but this one rarely gets used because it is so small - this is because it was originally built without a bathroom suite. People have stayed in this room though, it is not a secret at all.
yeah, I kinda wonder what the response would be if you asked specifically about the room, instead of about themed rooms in general. it's possible it's only open on request and randomly assigning people to the room in hopes of getting social media traction. also someone else has mentioned, it was original built without a bathroom suite and also wondering about the brick wall and concrete floor so i wonder if it was also a case that they just weren't able to assign money to renovating it up to standard for the hotel, and decided to theme it and leave it unadvertised as a more cost effective way of dealing with the room.
@@TaShoelace See, I'm inclined to split the difference: For whatever reason, the owner of the property decided to keep this room for themselves. Maybe there was a problem with the layout, maybe the owner just wanted a place to crash when he was in town. Whatever the reason, he decided to decorate the room to his own personal taste and sense of humor. After a while, the front desk screws up and assigns the room to someone, who notices the crazy decor. Instead of giving a straight forward answer, it's the owners room, they give a vague response knowing that'll be the better marketing. They're still not actively renting the room, since the owner wants it when they're in town, but if someone seeks out the room because of the viral fame, they'll let them stay there, with an obvious surcharge, of course.
"Oops, i rented out the TOP SECRET MURDERSEX DUNGEON ROOM by mistake then cryptically told the customer that no one was supposed to be there AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN." -This hotel
Manager: GODAMNIT SHERYL.... AGAIN? Sherryl: Sorry I just keep forgetting its "Don't rent that room" Manager:"You know we have to sacrifice a goat every time we do a turn down right?" Sherryl:"I'll get the druids on the phone"
You and 2100 other people wouldn't have jumped all over how "ridiculous and obvious" this is if the guy who made the video hadn't pointed this out. You wouldn't have thought of the absurdity of it yourself.
Seems if this was for marketing that they would give in and let someone stay. And also if they were going for haunted wouldnt some story about it being haunted or something other than oh its a normal suite come out
Uh..not necessarily. I agree with your assumption. However, what if there were a 'gag order' type of clause? I think time plays into this too. What I mean is: we're just finding out about this because the internet has only been accessible to the general public for the last 20 years or so. Perhaps, the two rooms mentioned were for marketing for a more long-term goal. That goal being.. marketing! As mentioned here, they're not available on the website. They don't have to be. Because of 'word of mouth' they've actually contributed to selling the rest of the hotel. People come for the intrigue. Even if those rooms aren't available, they've still reached the goal. 'get 'em thru the front door!' It's the same idea as car sales or houses too. This is actually pretty clever! It's bait n switch without having to pretty much anything. Use a number connected to the occult that's well known, start a rumor and let it go from there. Done. Pretty damned smart, I think. Actually.. genius! It's been done before but, not quite the same and harder to spot. Now, we have the internet and things like this. We're actually contributing to it right now. The more infamous it becomes, the more people want it. Talk about marketing! Whoever thought of this has (or had) a job for life! Pretty cool!
@@KatorNia Obviously, whoever is listening! Jus' joshin'. I'm basically talking to the person or persons that made this..or, anyone else that gets anything out of it. At least, it made sense. It's not just one long, non punctuated, uncapitalized sentence - like I see on every page I look at now. What the hell ever happened to grammer?!
@@KatorNia Oh..and, I'm not barking back at ya! Text never conveys emotion. One might be offended while another might agree. So, don't think that. I'm only replying - not bitching. Just so we're clear. 😁
I was just going to say that! Just the fact it's there makes it weird! Why that guy why not someone else!? It is just a regular pic at the end of the day I get it but it's odd at the same time! 💕
Those pics dont look like a genuinely creepy room, it looks like an emo 16 year old's idea of a creepy room. This is a manufactured by the hotel to make it edgy.
Hugh Mann And the very cheap looking artworks 😂 Seriously it looks more like something a skateboard riding 16-year-old would hang onto their walls, not like anything sinister haha
I used to work for a railway station and we did something that caused the local hotel a raft of problems and confusion. The tain station was built in the victoriana era and the offices, mail room and store rooms were built as needed back then, we don't need them now. So some get turned in to coffee shops, newsagents etcetera. However there is only so many shops that work in that setting. We had six offices, several bathrooms and a kitchen as well as a postal warehouse roughly the size of a basketball court. When a train is delayed and crew have to stay over in town, the rail companies would pay for them to stay in the local hotels. The closest to the station was small, had 12 rooms and a very bare bones service. For sakes of anonymity, I'll call it the King's Arms. Once the management at the King's Arms realised this was the case, they ramped up the cost of their rooms for walk ins or anyone identifiably train company staff. This lead to many drivers and crew getting their reimbursement clipped. Normally a room in the King's Arms would cost 50 quid per night with a basic breakfast included as well as TV and ensuite. The King's Arms charged rail workers 350 quid a night, with the TV, Shower and food all being extra charges. The rail companies refused to reimburse staff who took the extras, and often would not go over 200 quid per night. All of which left crew out of pocket. Someone got the idea to get some cheap furniture and kit out the empty offices in the train station as basic quarters. There were showers, toilets, beds and a kitchen with a microwave, coffee machine and washer dryer. Some one got an old sofa in. A battered old TV. CD player. Etc. Staff who stayed there would leave things for other staff. Board games, books, music etc. It wasn't sanctioned by management and was an understanding between station staff and train crew. Similar rooms popped up in a couple of other midsized stations like ours. The crew would write each other invoices and receipts on King's Arms branded stationary and put in expense claims. This became known as The King's Arms, Room 13. It was a secret. A poorly kept secret. Because it was essentially illegal, it attracted folk who had extra legal interests. Packages would be left in lockers for other staff with naughty contents. Some staff used it as a place to have affairs. Because of this, whilst it was kept away from management outside the stations involved, people talked in front of others about the secret room at the King's Arms. Room 13. Which, ofcourse, led to numerous people outside of train crew turning up to the Actual King's Arms demanding to stay in the secret 13th room. The humourless couple who ran the hotel started to get extremely unnerved by the number of shady folk coming into their hotel, late at night, insisting on renting a phantom room and offering to spend a fortune for access. The crews got to stay at the real thing, but those who had heard rumours in shady circles of secret rooms imagined some mysterious, exclusive or even magical room, depending on the story they'd heard. The rooms are still there. The Hotel was eventually sold because the old owners were spooked, thinking some cult or gang had singled out their little flea sanctuary as special. I still hear rumours about the secret rooms in the King's Arms and devil worship and orgies and black masses and prostitution and wild parties. The truth is so mundane but I love being inside of the secret. I even crashed there a couple of times myself, just to hang out with some train crew friends or once, because I couldn't remember where I lived (I was drunk and had just moved). Any way, I wonder if hard times is like that. A room for staff. A marketing trick, sure, but to actually stay there without getting bumped a few minutes later, you have to be 'in the club' so to speak.
This reminds me of a news article I saw a while back where a bunch of subway employees (I think it was in NY) had asked for a rec room for breaks, but they were denied. They took matters into their own hands and secretly renovated an empty room into a rec room. They were found out after bills (I think for cable or internet) were traced to the room, and they all got in big trouble. Don't quote me on this story, I have a poor memory and I'm fairly certain I got a couple details wrong. Either way, the gist is there. Regardless, I love stories like this, and the fact that you guys were able to spook hotel owners into selling their hotel is simultaneously sad and hilarious.
The hotel will "accidently" book the room, keep the guest in it for 10-15 minutes before pretending an error has occurred, and enjoy the free publicity. Snooze Cruise.
MrGageHarrison what's that one thing called...Occam's Razor, I think? "The simplest solution is usually the right one" Real life is boring as hell compared to imagination, haha.
Damian P you have to apply logic to occums razor there are thousands of underpaid employees that have worked at Starbucks and they are gonna keep up a marketing ploy for the fat cats that run it and not talk about it after they leave the company so idk if the start bucks comparison really works here good thought tho
'Hey guys yknow what would be funny, if we made one of the rooms look like a sex dungeon, people would come to this hotel to just see it.' 'yeah okay but let's try and keep it pg and say it's a jail cell.' 'okay but can we call it hard times lol'. 'lol yeah and find the weirdest pictures you can to put on the walls.' 'yeah i'm gonna put this pic of my granddad on the wall too bc lol'
"I highly doubt that hotel employees would make the same mistake twice" - obviously barely sociable has never worked a low wage, or menial labor job. A hotel front desk job happens to be both. You can't expect people working this type of job to not make mistakes, willingly or accidentally
Depends on where you live and the culture. I'm from Iraq and now lives in France and I can tell you people here do their best no matter how little the jobs pays...one of many reasons is because of your "reputation" among your colleagues and boss because when you move to another job they would call your former boss or company to know about you. What you're talking about is from the third world culture or some Western cities who are on their way to become a third world (examples include but not limited to, California, New-York or Frankfort in Germany where there are a lot of foreigners from regrissive cultures and not used to Germany's superior standards)
the forbidden room keys wold be locked in the managers office not left out for "mistakes" to happen AND the one was a writer they KNEW she was a writer
@@johannvonvictornova4730 Maybe, but let's say for an instant that this is true. What happens when a guest checks out of said room, and as you say "the manager has locked their office" so they go where all the other keys go. Than it's a very simple manner of an employee giving out the key to the next guest, again, accidentally or willfully. And further, this is a mysterious thing to us, but to them it's a mundane, boring part of their job. Put yourself in the manager's shoes: they've probs worked their for 10+ years, and this key is supposed to be a thing they keep track of, and give out occasionally. I would lose track of that if I'm not looking at it every single day. FFS I lose track of my wallet and phone a couple times a year, and I handle those everyday. And that's only assuming they're locked in the managers office, like you say, and not just kept with the rest of the keys. Alot of these arguments go towards their conversation with the reporter as well
You're reading too much into it. He means these employees specifically it's not a generalized statement. While he says they wouldn't make the same mistake twice, what he's actually meaning is that if this was indeed a secret, the hotel would do everything they could to make sure it wasn't even a possibility for someone to be placed in there by mistake after seeing the reaction it got the first time if they were truly trying to keep it hidden because of a sinister purpose for it. People would be too worried about losing their jobs or worse to make the same mistake the first one did.
Exactly - which is my theory about why the room is handled the way it is. Nothing like a Reddit/RUclips "conspiracy" to make 2 million viewers aware of your cool, pricey hotel!
That whole explanation just falls apart straight away though, Jail cells don't have a large double bed, or a huge balcony. The room looks nothing like a jail cell at all except for the concrete.
That was my first thought, too. Way too much furniture, no shakedown and nobody's there to beat your ass and steal your shoes 1/5 - felt more like a hotel than a jail
@@swine13 dud its more like jail than i thought, i rented this room and was subsequently assraped that night. and all i can remember is an old dudes face
I used to work at a hotel that had a room that was NEVER to be rented out. It was "saved" for someone that ran that area of the hotel chain. It was completely different and furnished in his own stuff, like an apartment.
This makes the most sense. Someone who needs to stay here often for work and has subsidized lodging that is "theirs". Since it's somewhat of another home, why not dress it up with your fancy artwork, unique bed, and picture of random man?
I came to the same conclusion - that it was a long term rental room for employees or someone on "hard times". I think it's likely that a 22 year old kid would have picked this exact decor to be edgy or funny
I had a similar thought, my parents managed a small hotel for a while, they had 3 permanent residents that where there before they started managing it and were still there after the moved on. Also, I worked as a tech for an internet company for a few years, connecting internet mostly in apartment buildings, But I went to quite a few different hotels/motels to connect permanent residents. one thing I would like to know about room 322 is: is this room artificially small? has someone measured out the room spacing in the hallway to see if the room should be small like that? Is it possible there is secret part of room 322?
Its her thicc necc and the massive foreheads. Those things are so big i thought I was looking at a blank canvas for a second before I realised that's just her forehead and there's other stuff around it.
It looks like an emergency staff-only room. When I worked at a nursing home, we had a room for staff rest during adverse weather, forced overtime, etc. The room might've been intended as a themed room, but was deemed too small for their cliental. That red brick wall was built on purpose, unless the hotel is ancient, so theming was attempted.
Yeah, I'm guessing they wanted to utilize extra space and make the small room more appealing by turning it into one of their theme rooms, but once it was renovated they realized how off putting and creepy the room actually was. They probably got complaints or rarely had it booked so then it became a spare room of sorts for staff or whatever.
Something about the art of the two women at the beginning made me seriously uncomfortable on a deep level. I never want to see that again but I'm curious why it spoke to me so strongly. Does anyone know where it's from?
I think that it taps into some kind of phobia that has something to do with misshapen bodies. I also felt incredibly disturbed by that painting and it gives me chills just thinking about it. In the movie "It", one of the monsters was from a painting where the woman had a curved head, and just the painting alone was enough to creep me out. Nobody else I have talked to about it seems to have been that disturbed by it, but that's like the only thing in the entire movie that freaked me out. I'd look more into this phenomenon but I dont even know where to begin, and doing my own research would probably involve looking at similar pictures... which I am NOT about to do
I actually looked away after that one, but when I looked back all the other pictures were a lot less disturbing to me, luckily. That picture alone would disprove the sex dungeon theory to me. How could you have sex with that painting near you?
"I can't imagine someone who likes living with cold concrete flooring and disturbing images around them all day" Me who sleeps in my basement with weird pictures hanging on the wall: ...
I like that you actually called them; I definitely wasn't expecting that. I discovered your channel tonight and I've watched a few videos. They are interesting and very thorough. You've earned my sub.
MrTJMishRat I’ll just take the coke please. Being that I live about eight hours from Houston, literally on the US/Mexican border, I would hope the standards would be close to what I would get here. :)
Very clever marketing, occasionally leak the existence of room, repeatedly deny the existence of the room, watch your internet presence go through the roof. Brilliant.
@@BornIn1500 yeah, that was a weird choice. if i was that marketing lady, i would have just said nothing like this exists, they're making it all up. slam dunk advertisement tbh
to me it still doesnt make sense that some random old guy was framed on the wall. why would they want that in a themed room or a room used for marketing. its just so random
I love the juxtaposition of the appearances of the decorations on the wall. First, you have g r o t e s q u e, UNNATURAL faces and people. Then, you have sKULLS! a classic horror trope, with different mixes of surrealism and exaggeration, emphasizing death. And finally, to top it all off,,,, you have a jpeg of a guy who looks like he could be a live-action Doug Dimmadome (owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome) that was just printed onto copy paper with your standard business InkJet printer, and put into a run-of-the-mill $15 maximum picture frame from a Walmart, under a slightly bigger paper border. Marketing G E N I U S !!!!
There was a guy who also did scary videos. He was Irish, he may have had glasses, his name was mike and he pronounced three like tree. Do any of you remember his RUclips channel name?
Bro that worker you called probs works minimum wage and only knows a little about the business. I work at a movie theater and most of the time I just agree with what the customer says unless it's so unbelievably stupid that I have to be real with them LOL
Real talk, I used to work in retail when someone would ask me for an obscure dvd, I would just tell them we don’t have it. When they would insist I check the back, I would go into the back check my text messages and come back and tell them, we don’t have it.
@@VisionThing because we didn’t have it… it would show in our inventory scanner no results or 0-1 left in stock. Usually the 1 left would be an inventory error/lost/stolen/hidden item and people wouldn’t want to hear the truth that there is 1 left in stock so we say “sold out”. Stores want to sell their merchandise, the back room isn’t a magical place we’re we can just manifest items, usually what we have back there is overstock.
@@VisionThing most stores' catalogs are fully digitized and can be check on computers. "check in the back" is outdated, doesnt do anything, a waste of time but customers just insist on it, employees "go check in the back" just to avoid complaints, and get a quick break as a bonus
Honestly, my first thought when I saw the photos of the room was that it's someone's private room. I don't think it's that uncommon for someone to pay month to month to keep a room for themselves if they have that kind of money to throw around. It actually might just be their "play room", if you will. If you are frequently meeting or paying people for sex, and want to keep your life private, something like this would be a nice compromise, rather than taking them back to your home. Concrete floors are easier to clean than carpeted ones depending on the kind of activities I'm thinking that go on there, and the style might just match the kind of kink the person is going for. That would also explain why the staff said that the room should never be rented out, the person renting it out might just always have a key and can just come and go whenever they want without having to check in everytime, or why the "themed room" is never mentioned in any listings. Idk about the photo of the one dude, but the art pieces just look like they might be from either a specific artist they like, or a person just might like them in general. I like the idea of a marketing scheme, but sounds too smart to be a hidden secret for so long.
But the picture of the ponzi scheme guy doesn't make a lot of sense if it's a "playpen". Why would you want that there? It's not even creepy. That only makes sense if you're setting up a viral marketing scheme to intrigue people. On the other hand, it's possible that it was originally a themed room - the ponzi scheme guy's picture has a connection to jail, after all. But then somebody made a long-term arrangement for it, which is why for a period they were moving people out who were accidentally booked into it. Then eventually with the reddit post the marketing department might've just co-opted the "mystery" and decided on keeping it alive by not listing it on the site. They want people to call up and ask for the room.
that was my first thought too, the pictures didn't come across as creepy to me, they were honestly pretty funny, I can't really explain why they are but seeing them in this vid honestly made me laugh. You have this nice fancy hotel with nice rooms and for no reason at all one of them just looks like a cheap escape room. It doesn't look like a room intentionally designed to be creepy or haunted as a marketing scheme for the hotel, it looks like the room is reserved for one specific person and they designed it themselves (which is why it looks so different from every other room, which were probably designed by proffessionals) and they just have bad taste. I can't explain the framed pic of the old guy, maybe the room owner is just a big fan, but the skulls and chained bed and everything else just looks like someones bad attempt at either a goth look or a kinky one. Most hotel rooms that try to look haunted usually rely on having a bunch of old furniture, not cheap Halloween props, and they usually advertise the hell out of those rooms rather than keep them secret. If the room being kept secret and "found out" by the internet was the plan to gain attention, it doesn't seem like a very reliable one. I also don't think the fact that the hotel's marketing agent being the one to answer the questions is really proof that this was all intentional either, I think they're just taking advantage of the sudden attention to their hotel to profit off it, lots of companies have done this kinda thing.
I’d say it’s a room for initiates of some frat that maybe the owner created or a large donor to the construction of the hotel-you put a recruit on that bed ply them with hallucinogenics and then boom make them lost their shit
Doubt that this is a playroom. There'd be a lot more equipment in the room. The fact that there are no cuffs, blindfolds, gags, etc. makes me believe this is a gimmick.
Could be a room that that chapter of fraternity uses for pledging purposes. They probably pay a certain amount a year to reserve that room for whichever reasons for the pledge process.
This is what I was thinking. I was in a frat (“secret society”) and the whole pledging/intitiatjon process involved a bunch of corny cult imagery and fake ceremonies. They’re also full of rich old dudes who are weirdly committed to it, so completely plausible that some guy pays to use this room for that
I was thinking since it`s only 4 star a minor celeb just bought it . I used to work in the Rittenhouse hotel in Philadelphia . 5 star . and a lot of celebs just booked standing rooms year round and intermittently stayed there . noone was allowed to clean them or go in for maintenance. demii moore and bruce willis had one that was just a wreck with leather jackets thrown everywhere .(just because we weren`t allowed doesn't mean we didn't go in we still had to do maintenance)
I think u r correct. the design of the room is too "clean" to be really a sex (slave) thing. It seems they "decorated" everything more like props, and not really usable things. for example the chains: why use them? their length cant be adjusted, they are very loud when someone would move widly, banging against thing and thus be easily hearable through the next rooms or even a floor. ropes or something made of leather or something else would be much smarter i would imagine. i dont have a background in the hotel industry, but in marketing and i didnt believe that this room was real for a second when i saw the pics, but was clearly made for marketing purposes.
As secs dungeon rooms go, that one's very much a disaster. There's ... no actual theme, there's no cohesive substance to it. Skulls here, skulls there, skulls everywhere. A half assed attempt to chain the bed, ripped up carpet (the room was once, clearly a finished room, going by the floor alone) there's no apparent wear on the shown items, where as even on some of the best pictures off the best rooms available, you can still spot some natural wear if you spend the time to look for it. I'll go along with the same theory, a pathetic attempt at supping up the hotel. I'll go even further, and say this. The hotel wasn't even full, and they might not meet ends.
I've watched a few videos from this channel over the past few days. I love the fact that, unlike a lot of the dozens of similar channels, there's a strong streak of skepticism. No woo-woo, no conspiracy theories. Just rational theories. At least from what I've seen so far. Subscribed.
Me: *Walks by Room 322* Also me: *Hears a noise coming from Room 322* Oh? What’s that? Me: *Proceeds to listen out for noise* But then..I heard it... _"I did not hit her, its not true- its bullshit! I did not hit her- i did naaaht...Oh hi Mark"_
You took time to write a joke script for yourself , which has been done a million times over and over again. How original are you? You absolute dick cheese. Shut the Fuck up
I've worked in the hotel industry for 10 years now and at multiple different hotels. My theory is that that is a staff accommodation room in the building. Someone likely lives in that room who has to be on premises even while off the clock. Night security, maintenance, etc. The hotel I work with right now in fact has the entire basement level reserved for staff to live in but guests would never guess since the hallways look just like the rest of the hotel. As for the room decor. You may just not understand their taste. My room at home looks like a hippie and a goth were living in it, yet I am single. Oh and as for the staff room accidentally being rented out. You'd be surprised at how inept workers and even managers can be in the industry. No industry is better at bullshitting you than the hospitality industry though so who knows for sure.
@@MegaKaitouKID1412 My guess is that they're just really that bad. Most hotel workers are paid minimum wage. It's pretty easy to stop caring about your job when they don't pay you enough.
@@jonsampson3030 I knew a few guys in high school who would've thought it was funny or edgy to have Dr Ponzi on their walls.... along with the chains on the bed
I remember going into one of the top floor rooms with a friend years back. It was at the end on the hallway. The door was wide open with all the lights off. Kinda spooky as it was night time, but one thing stood out was a clawfoot bath tub on the patio.
I don't think that room really looks that weird or quirky. I have seen rooms with a similar vibe in modern hotels that are going for a quirky, edgy look. It's totally the sort of thing a bunch of designers and marketing people would come up with after a brainstorming session!
My thoughts: The clerk saying the room wasn't meant to be rented out meant that perhaps it was reserved for someone or there was an error in the fact that a guy who wanted a regular-ass room got rented a theme room. It's probably not advertised because it's a BDSM room (not exactly advertiser-friendly) and may have been custom decorated for a wealthy person with a BDSM fantasy who probably wanted to keep things discrete. Mystery solved. Nah for reals though, the reality is probably something as mundane as this. Otherwise, some regular joe shmoe working there (like the clerk) would've blabbed about it already.
This can't be BDSM. The post said that other than the furniture and pictures, the room was empty. I'd expect there to be equipment. If it's for one specific person, they'd keep their stuff in there. And if it's for any old person to rent, the hotel would keep BDSM stuff in there. If I rented a BDSM room, and there wasn't anything for BDSM in it, I'd be pretty mad. And why the random dude? That's the part that takes this from "probably not" to "certainly not."
exactly. i think this room is probably someone who basically lives there. there's people who rent out a room at a hotel bc they are homeless or whatever and that room basically becomes theirs since they never leave. maybe the person wasn't able to pay for one night or so, hence why there isn't any actual belongings there. or it could always be a room meant for staff in case they have to work overnight and need somewhere to stay. it could possibly be the owner of the hotels room which now that i think about it, makes the most sense. if the owner ever came by and needed a place to stay, that is their room to stay in. hence why it was never supposed to be rented out to begin with. 😊
My theory is that they're telling the truth about it being renovated as a theme room, but once it was completed they realized it was actually off putting/creepy and wasn't very popular or got complaints from guests. At that point it was probably designated as a spare room for staff in case employees had to spend the night in an emergency. Employees may have also hung up the weird art work and Ponzi scheme guy portrait in an attempt to make the room creepier for comedic reasons.
Alternative theory: it was a prototype themed room that they ended up not liking, but because of its unique design, it's already set and unable to be renovated.
As someone further up said, a hotel isn't going to just let a space sit in a hotel without being used, the profit margins on hotels are extremely small. If they just didn't like that space, they wouldn't just let it stay there, they'd redecorate it, re-purpose it for something else. A hotel always wants every one of its beds filled. By holding that spot vacant just because they don't like it, they're losing out on potentially $200+ a night, while it could easily be re-designed or refurnished for an amount that would be covered by just a few weeks of having the room open to the public. The only thing that makes it weird is stuff that's hanging on the walls. Pictures and a chain. Easily able to be renovated.
I would say after your phone call, that hotel probably has it's own mystery about this guy who started integrating a receptionist about the fact they only have 11 themed compact suits and was going through the list on the website like it's Law and Order
First instinct: An edgy teenagers room, maybe the son of the hotel owners. He lives there but wasn't using it at the time, which would explain why the staff aren't supposed to give the room away despite having a spare one. Marketing makes sense, but it'd be the most subtle and delayed-payoff marketing in hotel history. Practically, not many hotel managers would give up a room and move people to and from it for *years* on the offchance it gets picked up as a mystery.
Starbucks wont admit to employees intentionally misspelling customer names to drum up social media posts and free attention. As long as it's not negative, like racism or other crap, I dont see an issue with this type of marketing. At least its interesting, and not an infomercial pitch.
I worked at Starbucks and absolutely hated my job and the company so i wouldn’t be trying to defend them for whatever reason and i can 100% say that we just misspell your names because we’re fucking stupid and that place is loud
@McBlyatDimitri if people are offended by their name being misspelled on a cup of coffee, they need to reevaluate their life. Invoking outrage over everything may be a new national pastime, but there is a point at which people need to ask themselves if getting angry about every single thing is worth the ulcer its causing.
My theory is that they hype up this room by "accidentally" letting someone in with a camera / cell phone camera and then that story is how they can excuse why the room costs so much more, for rich perverts.
Your theory is absolutely correct for a few reasons. Many hotels or motels that seem normal have secret themed rooms to drum up controversy of some kind.
Room 1408 by Stephen King definitely applies here. Movie is also on RUclips and worth the watch imo. A lot of philosophical subtext around the horror/thriller aspect.
I have worked maintenance at hotels and office buildings, its very common to have rooms that are basically glorified storage closets, some even still have room numbers and electronic card entry systems. These are sometimes used as hangout spots or makeshift offices for janitorial or other staff. So might not be rented all the time, but could get rented by new employees or changes in designation. The computer system might still consider the room available to rent even though its a "closet".
Have you heard of a comedian called Sean Lock? He does a madonna bit, but if you haven't seen it the reference makes no sense. "ALRIGHT, SEAN!? YA COME TO GET YA PRIZE, SEAN??" *scamper scamper scamper* "OHHH IM READY FOR YA...." *scamper scamper*
As someone who has extensive experience working in hotels, your theory is probably correct. First of all, profit margins can be razor thin some months. Hotels are carefully designed so that they don't have too many or too few rooms so that space and money aren't wasted and efficiency is maximized. Having a secret room for anything other than purposes of marketing doesn't make any sense at all, because we want to use every bed we have. You can see evidence of this from the reddit post in that the hotel was booked solid but his colleague was able to score a room. This was likely the last room available for rent so they decided to let them stay in it instead of kick them out. On top of that, it's always good when you can show management that you sold the hotel out on your shift. Lastly, large hotels can have high employment turnovers with most people getting paid between 9-14 dollars an hour. These are everyday people just like me, not Yale scholars or secret fraternity members. If there was really something nefarious up with that room, a former or even current employee would've talked by now. The housekeepers will know about it and even the front desk obviously knows about it, so your talking about hundreds of everyday people knowing about this room. Someone would've talked by now, especially if they had left on bad terms with the hotel. Fun analysis to watch though!
I wonder where they moved the OP's friend if that was the last room to rent and then they moved him out of it into a different room.
The truth is actually way more mundane than a marketing scheme. The truth is, this IS just a themed room. This hotel has plenty of themed rooms but this one rarely gets used because it is so small - this is because it was originally built without a bathroom suite. People have stayed in this room though, it is not a secret at all.
yeah, I kinda wonder what the response would be if you asked specifically about the room, instead of about themed rooms in general. it's possible it's only open on request and randomly assigning people to the room in hopes of getting social media traction. also someone else has mentioned, it was original built without a bathroom suite and also wondering about the brick wall and concrete floor so i wonder if it was also a case that they just weren't able to assign money to renovating it up to standard for the hotel, and decided to theme it and leave it unadvertised as a more cost effective way of dealing with the room.
@@TaShoelace bingo
@@TaShoelace See, I'm inclined to split the difference: For whatever reason, the owner of the property decided to keep this room for themselves. Maybe there was a problem with the layout, maybe the owner just wanted a place to crash when he was in town. Whatever the reason, he decided to decorate the room to his own personal taste and sense of humor.
After a while, the front desk screws up and assigns the room to someone, who notices the crazy decor. Instead of giving a straight forward answer, it's the owners room, they give a vague response knowing that'll be the better marketing. They're still not actively renting the room, since the owner wants it when they're in town, but if someone seeks out the room because of the viral fame, they'll let them stay there, with an obvious surcharge, of course.
The picture of the old guy actually made me laugh at how random it is lmaoo
Date Mike same hahahahah
Compared to the other stuff hanging on the wall it is just weirdly.....normal. Literally just a portrait of some dude.
cause the rest is all scary shit like bones and skulls... makes you think what this guy did to be framed there
@@ucmoit9znsvlz1xmbfjginmq57 exactly, maybe he's a skull in their dungeon?
bruh same 😂
"Oops, i rented out the TOP SECRET MURDERSEX DUNGEON ROOM by mistake then cryptically told the customer that no one was supposed to be there AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN." -This hotel
Manager: GODAMNIT SHERYL.... AGAIN?
Sherryl: Sorry I just keep forgetting its "Don't rent that room"
Manager:"You know we have to sacrifice a goat every time we do a turn down right?"
Sherryl:"I'll get the druids on the phone"
The customer that’s a blogger?
You and 2100 other people wouldn't have jumped all over how "ridiculous and obvious" this is if the guy who made the video hadn't pointed this out. You wouldn't have thought of the absurdity of it yourself.
Dammit bellhop you dropped off their luggage in the wrong room! Go get them relocated before I fire you
Seems if this was for marketing that they would give in and let someone stay. And also if they were going for haunted wouldnt some story about it being haunted or something other than oh its a normal suite come out
"So they accidentally rented out my BDSM closet and now the internet won't shut up about it."
"That's rough man. Hate when that happens."
ong is that sonic
@@voracity2
No this is Patrick.
@@user-xs3lc4ky4h **call ends**
@@voracity2
tartar sauce
@@user-xs3lc4ky4h sushi but without "hi"
can’t stop laughing at the random framed photo of that dude. he’s just chillin on the wall there it’s so random
@Richard Favreau Ok....?
@Richard Favreau How am I offended exactly? Bruh I was just surprised ok 😂 hence the concerned "ok". Chill tf down homie
@Richard Favreau are you also broke as shit?
Richard Favreau I think he was just very confused that you would throw that in there. Just random.
@Richard Favreau Mate, just calm down. What he said is not even a big deal.
I admire you for standing up to the true horror: talking on the phone. Thank you for your service...
😂😂😂 this is so true- I even felt nervous when he called in. A true hero with no fear. Ahahha.
Uh..not necessarily. I agree with your assumption. However, what if there were a 'gag order' type of clause? I think time plays into this too. What I mean is: we're just finding out about this because the internet has only been accessible to the general public for the last 20 years or so. Perhaps, the two rooms mentioned were for marketing for a more long-term goal. That goal being.. marketing! As mentioned here, they're not available on the website. They don't have to be. Because of 'word of mouth' they've actually contributed to selling the rest of the hotel. People come for the intrigue. Even if those rooms aren't available, they've still reached the goal. 'get 'em thru the front door!' It's the same idea as car sales or houses too. This is actually pretty clever! It's bait n switch without having to pretty much anything. Use a number connected to the occult that's well known, start a rumor and let it go from there. Done. Pretty damned smart, I think. Actually.. genius! It's been done before but, not quite the same and harder to spot. Now, we have the internet and things like this. We're actually contributing to it right now. The more infamous it becomes, the more people want it. Talk about marketing! Whoever thought of this has (or had) a job for life! Pretty cool!
@@duanemcclure8324
(Who are you talking to? 😛)
@@KatorNia Obviously, whoever is listening! Jus' joshin'. I'm basically talking to the person or persons that made this..or, anyone else that gets anything out of it. At least, it made sense. It's not just one long, non punctuated, uncapitalized sentence - like I see on every page I look at now. What the hell ever happened to grammer?!
@@KatorNia Oh..and, I'm not barking back at ya! Text never conveys emotion. One might be offended while another might agree. So, don't think that. I'm only replying - not bitching. Just so we're clear. 😁
Ironic that a channel called barely sociable had the balls to go further than most and actually call them.
That’s what is meant by barely
@@PippaPasses AYEEE STN MTN/KAUAI
U have a nice profile pic
Joseph Paulino STN/MTN Kauai, fuckin nice! Awesome pfp dude
Not big enough to ask about the room though.
www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/dfbvse/been_following_the_mystery_of_room_322_hard_times/
“Creepy picture of an old man” *is just a regular picture of some old guy*
I was just going to say that! Just the fact it's there makes it weird! Why that guy why not someone else!? It is just a regular pic at the end of the day I get it but it's odd at the same time! 💕
All elderly people are creepy.
Russ Ferris creepy
@@Demiglitch
You are creepy
@@Demiglitch respect your elders.
The vice question voice over was so spot on lmao
Those pics dont look like a genuinely creepy room, it looks like an emo 16 year old's idea of a creepy room. This is a manufactured by the hotel to make it edgy.
Nah that first one is pretty eerie, the other ones I agree
Stinkybeans93 not really lol just looks like abstract art similar to something George condo would make.
ThuggaThuggaBaby what people find eerie is subjective
resting sad face I don’t need you to tell me that ass face
Inkstainedgirl I have been a fan for years. I’ve been gathering the courage to say something. Call me back!!
what kills the eeriness of that room is the random cropped picture of an old guy.
Hugh Mann And the very cheap looking artworks 😂 Seriously it looks more like something a skateboard riding 16-year-old would hang onto their walls, not like anything sinister haha
the weird cheap artwork is the part that scares me. but whatever floats your boat.
its Dr. Telamericorp
@@AnAverageGoblin same
Lonetrout69 I understood that reference
I used to work for a railway station and we did something that caused the local hotel a raft of problems and confusion. The tain station was built in the victoriana era and the offices, mail room and store rooms were built as needed back then, we don't need them now. So some get turned in to coffee shops, newsagents etcetera. However there is only so many shops that work in that setting. We had six offices, several bathrooms and a kitchen as well as a postal warehouse roughly the size of a basketball court.
When a train is delayed and crew have to stay over in town, the rail companies would pay for them to stay in the local hotels. The closest to the station was small, had 12 rooms and a very bare bones service. For sakes of anonymity, I'll call it the King's Arms. Once the management at the King's Arms realised this was the case, they ramped up the cost of their rooms for walk ins or anyone identifiably train company staff. This lead to many drivers and crew getting their reimbursement clipped. Normally a room in the King's Arms would cost 50 quid per night with a basic breakfast included as well as TV and ensuite. The King's Arms charged rail workers 350 quid a night, with the TV, Shower and food all being extra charges. The rail companies refused to reimburse staff who took the extras, and often would not go over 200 quid per night. All of which left crew out of pocket.
Someone got the idea to get some cheap furniture and kit out the empty offices in the train station as basic quarters. There were showers, toilets, beds and a kitchen with a microwave, coffee machine and washer dryer. Some one got an old sofa in. A battered old TV. CD player. Etc. Staff who stayed there would leave things for other staff. Board games, books, music etc. It wasn't sanctioned by management and was an understanding between station staff and train crew. Similar rooms popped up in a couple of other midsized stations like ours. The crew would write each other invoices and receipts on King's Arms branded stationary and put in expense claims. This became known as The King's Arms, Room 13. It was a secret. A poorly kept secret. Because it was essentially illegal, it attracted folk who had extra legal interests. Packages would be left in lockers for other staff with naughty contents. Some staff used it as a place to have affairs. Because of this, whilst it was kept away from management outside the stations involved, people talked in front of others about the secret room at the King's Arms. Room 13.
Which, ofcourse, led to numerous people outside of train crew turning up to the Actual King's Arms demanding to stay in the secret 13th room. The humourless couple who ran the hotel started to get extremely unnerved by the number of shady folk coming into their hotel, late at night, insisting on renting a phantom room and offering to spend a fortune for access. The crews got to stay at the real thing, but those who had heard rumours in shady circles of secret rooms imagined some mysterious, exclusive or even magical room, depending on the story they'd heard.
The rooms are still there. The Hotel was eventually sold because the old owners were spooked, thinking some cult or gang had singled out their little flea sanctuary as special. I still hear rumours about the secret rooms in the King's Arms and devil worship and orgies and black masses and prostitution and wild parties. The truth is so mundane but I love being inside of the secret. I even crashed there a couple of times myself, just to hang out with some train crew friends or once, because I couldn't remember where I lived (I was drunk and had just moved).
Any way, I wonder if hard times is like that. A room for staff. A marketing trick, sure, but to actually stay there without getting bumped a few minutes later, you have to be 'in the club' so to speak.
This reminds me of a news article I saw a while back where a bunch of subway employees (I think it was in NY) had asked for a rec room for breaks, but they were denied. They took matters into their own hands and secretly renovated an empty room into a rec room. They were found out after bills (I think for cable or internet) were traced to the room, and they all got in big trouble.
Don't quote me on this story, I have a poor memory and I'm fairly certain I got a couple details wrong. Either way, the gist is there.
Regardless, I love stories like this, and the fact that you guys were able to spook hotel owners into selling their hotel is simultaneously sad and hilarious.
I know the comment is a year old, but I have to say this has been one of my favourite reads in a RUclips comments section ever.
The hotel will "accidently" book the room, keep the guest in it for 10-15 minutes before pretending an error has occurred, and enjoy the free publicity. Snooze Cruise.
Aye Aye you’re fun
MrGageHarrison what's that one thing called...Occam's Razor, I think? "The simplest solution is usually the right one" Real life is boring as hell compared to imagination, haha.
Lol sounds ledgit .. like Starbucks misspelling your names
@@damianp7313 Ledgit. Fur reel.
Damian P you have to apply logic to occums razor there are thousands of underpaid employees that have worked at Starbucks and they are gonna keep up a marketing ploy for the fat cats that run it and not talk about it after they leave the company so idk if the start bucks comparison really works here good thought tho
'Hey guys yknow what would be funny, if we made one of the rooms look like a sex dungeon, people would come to this hotel to just see it.' 'yeah okay but let's try and keep it pg and say it's a jail cell.' 'okay but can we call it hard times lol'. 'lol yeah and find the weirdest pictures you can to put on the walls.' 'yeah i'm gonna put this pic of my granddad on the wall too bc lol'
This is so true that its painful
this is so funny 💀💀
I went to journalism school and learned nothing but PR and market advertising. My very first thought was gimmick. Just like my education.
Would like but 666
@ well 3+3=6 and room 366
"I highly doubt that hotel employees would make the same mistake twice" - obviously barely sociable has never worked a low wage, or menial labor job. A hotel front desk job happens to be both. You can't expect people working this type of job to not make mistakes, willingly or accidentally
Thats why he’s barely sociable
Depends on where you live and the culture. I'm from Iraq and now lives in France and I can tell you people here do their best no matter how little the jobs pays...one of many reasons is because of your "reputation" among your colleagues and boss because when you move to another job they would call your former boss or company to know about you. What you're talking about is from the third world culture or some Western cities who are on their way to become a third world (examples include but not limited to, California, New-York or Frankfort in Germany where there are a lot of foreigners from regrissive cultures and not used to Germany's superior standards)
the forbidden room keys wold be locked in the managers office not left out for "mistakes" to happen AND the one was a writer they KNEW she was a writer
@@johannvonvictornova4730 Maybe, but let's say for an instant that this is true. What happens when a guest checks out of said room, and as you say "the manager has locked their office" so they go where all the other keys go. Than it's a very simple manner of an employee giving out the key to the next guest, again, accidentally or willfully.
And further, this is a mysterious thing to us, but to them it's a mundane, boring part of their job. Put yourself in the manager's shoes: they've probs worked their for 10+ years, and this key is supposed to be a thing they keep track of, and give out occasionally. I would lose track of that if I'm not looking at it every single day. FFS I lose track of my wallet and phone a couple times a year, and I handle those everyday.
And that's only assuming they're locked in the managers office, like you say, and not just kept with the rest of the keys.
Alot of these arguments go towards their conversation with the reporter as well
You're reading too much into it. He means these employees specifically it's not a generalized statement. While he says they wouldn't make the same mistake twice, what he's actually meaning is that if this was indeed a secret, the hotel would do everything they could to make sure it wasn't even a possibility for someone to be placed in there by mistake after seeing the reaction it got the first time if they were truly trying to keep it hidden because of a sinister purpose for it. People would be too worried about losing their jobs or worse to make the same mistake the first one did.
This guy seriously needs more recognition. Soothing voiceover to insane reddit rabbit holes. what more can you ask for?!
Votki more trees?
Nexpo is cool too...
I found him yesterday at 25 k he is at 40k today. Hes doing good.
I'd ask for pizza
64.9k now!
"'Hard Times' is very fitting for something that looks like a sex dungeon."
bruh you _cannot_
I had the same reaction jfc lol
I spent a solid 5 minutes laughing after that
yuuko aioi
well it does! they said chain attached to the bed and i said 😳
selamat pagi!
This was the best free advertisement the hotel could ask for
The room works!
Exactly - which is my theory about why the room is handled the way it is. Nothing like a Reddit/RUclips "conspiracy" to make 2 million viewers aware of your cool, pricey hotel!
Except some people would find a different hotel knowing about this room existing.
@@swaggery Right here👋, I'd never patronize this Hotel after seeing this-
What makes you think this wasn’t paid?
Imagine being so rich that a jail experience is literally just a fantasy you play out by renting a hotel's "Hard Times" theme room.
You know how they treat you in the big house, warm comfy beds, cooky paintings, a TV, a large balcony, I'd rather die!
I need to inform you “raped by a person in a position of power” role play bdsm is not a rich people only thing
I guess they don't have a bathroom so there is no issues of dropping the soap.
Yeah i was thinking that they don't put it on the website because people would see it as gross, because it is, and react negatively
That whole explanation just falls apart straight away though, Jail cells don't have a large double bed, or a huge balcony. The room looks nothing like a jail cell at all except for the concrete.
To say this room is a play on a “jail experience”, they obviously haven’t been to jail.
"chain, skull, old man... this is a lot like jail"
That was my first thought, too. Way too much furniture, no shakedown and nobody's there to beat your ass and steal your shoes
1/5 - felt more like a hotel than a jail
@@swine13 dud its more like jail than i thought, i rented this room and was subsequently assraped that night. and all i can remember is an old dudes face
It was just some cock and Bull to get people to stop asking questions about the room
They will after the guy on the wall sues them!!
I used to work at a hotel that had a room that was NEVER to be rented out. It was "saved" for someone that ran that area of the hotel chain. It was completely different and furnished in his own stuff, like an apartment.
This makes the most sense. Someone who needs to stay here often for work and has subsidized lodging that is "theirs". Since it's somewhat of another home, why not dress it up with your fancy artwork, unique bed, and picture of random man?
I came to the same conclusion - that it was a long term rental room for employees or someone on "hard times". I think it's likely that a 22 year old kid would have picked this exact decor to be edgy or funny
Is that a "chain" clue?
This was the first thing I thought of lol. It
I had a similar thought, my parents managed a small hotel for a while, they had 3 permanent residents that where there before they started managing it and were still there after the moved on.
Also, I worked as a tech for an internet company for a few years, connecting internet mostly in apartment buildings, But I went to quite a few different hotels/motels to connect permanent residents.
one thing I would like to know about room 322 is: is this room artificially small? has someone measured out the room spacing in the hallway to see if the room should be small like that?
Is it possible there is secret part of room 322?
Everything in the room was cheesy but those two girls made my stomach turn for some reason.
Its her thicc necc and the massive foreheads. Those things are so big i thought I was looking at a blank canvas for a second before I realised that's just her forehead and there's other stuff around it.
Someone said in the comment section said that it taps to kind of phobia. I dunno what it is. But it has something to do with the human anatomy.
@@jassonkeithmabaylan4552 Uncanny Valley?
@@dervvy aha i would say that shits just creepy cool idea tho, its weird how when a robot looks super human are brains can tell the diffrence tho
Yeah that photo made me wish I wasn't looking at the screen...
Couldnt help but laugh when that old guys picture on the wall showed, smiling like everything normal
So out of place yet oddly fitting
"Who would want to live in a creepy, sex dungeon room?"
*laughs in kinky goth*
I read that as 'kinky girth'. I wouldn't be laughing, I'm no stuffer.
😈
Not funny, didn't laugh.
@@mr.boxh3ad931 No one cares
@@orgixvi3 Lol no need to get so offended emo man.
"why would someone like such a room" Goths. Just Goths. And Punks. And Emos. Honestly gimme that room I like the look
same lmao i saw those pics and was thinking thats a nice ass set up and design
punk gang wya
Yeah, no you don't. Stop lying.
@@aez6781 aw, look at you. You never saw a goth meetup! Never comment under my stuff again, yes?
@@kariissmol9172 yeah you don't get to pick where I comment, freak
Simple. Viral marketing. Never heard of this hotel. Now its being discussed all over the place.
Exactly
lol no, this hotel is well known in houston.
@@Map_of_Your_Head either way, this is fake
oh yeah, really makes me want to go to Houston, yawn
Not the kind of attention that leads people to want to book a room tho
what if we kissed in the goth room 😳
Fuck off
Jk jk unless
mealwyrmz what if you co signed me a sports car 😳
i'm game
😳😳😳 sounds hot dude
It looks like an emergency staff-only room. When I worked at a nursing home, we had a room for staff rest during adverse weather, forced overtime, etc. The room might've been intended as a themed room, but was deemed too small for their cliental. That red brick wall was built on purpose, unless the hotel is ancient, so theming was attempted.
Yeah, I'm guessing they wanted to utilize extra space and make the small room more appealing by turning it into one of their theme rooms, but once it was renovated they realized how off putting and creepy the room actually was. They probably got complaints or rarely had it booked so then it became a spare room of sorts for staff or whatever.
Looks like some type of supply room, with the exception of the red brick wall.
Something about the art of the two women at the beginning made me seriously uncomfortable on a deep level. I never want to see that again but I'm curious why it spoke to me so strongly. Does anyone know where it's from?
I think that it taps into some kind of phobia that has something to do with misshapen bodies. I also felt incredibly disturbed by that painting and it gives me chills just thinking about it.
In the movie "It", one of the monsters was from a painting where the woman had a curved head, and just the painting alone was enough to creep me out. Nobody else I have talked to about it seems to have been that disturbed by it, but that's like the only thing in the entire movie that freaked me out.
I'd look more into this phenomenon but I dont even know where to begin, and doing my own research would probably involve looking at similar pictures... which I am NOT about to do
@@travisumbel6877 that definitely could be part of it, although for me I think the fact there are two of them is a big element too.
I actually looked away after that one, but when I looked back all the other pictures were a lot less disturbing to me, luckily. That picture alone would disprove the sex dungeon theory to me. How could you have sex with that painting near you?
Enzaio maybe if u got a second hand embarrassment kink lol
@@darnellpistachio2991 I haven't. Is it Aleister Crowley's brother, by any chance?
Started on the quiet pills video, great storytelling and analysis. I would love to see more
Same lul
Same lol
What? Same, must have been recommended by RUclips
Same same same lul
Same lol
"I can't imagine someone who likes living with cold concrete flooring and disturbing images around them all day"
Me who sleeps in my basement with weird pictures hanging on the wall: ...
Do you also renting and have bed-chains? Asking for a friend.
@@quinnh3553 yes, would you like to see the bed chains 😏😳
I like that you actually called them; I definitely wasn't expecting that. I discovered your channel tonight and I've watched a few videos. They are interesting and very thorough. You've earned my sub.
☠️
Why would he even complain, imagine getting the crazy goth room and being upset about it
get a bunch of em goth bitches and have a vhs head cleaner, no2 and cocaine sex party
I don't think he was upset. i think he was unsettled.
MrTJMishRat
I’ll just take the coke please. Being that I live about eight hours from Houston, literally on the US/Mexican border, I would hope the standards would be close to what I would get here. :)
this comment is even better with the 707 picture
@@ElysetheEevee I lived for 5 years between Peru and Ecuador. I know quality, man, trust me ;]
Very clever marketing, occasionally leak the existence of room, repeatedly deny the existence of the room, watch your internet presence go through the roof. Brilliant.
They never denied the existence of it. They openly admit it's a themed room. They just don't advertise it.
@@BornIn1500 yeah, that was a weird choice. if i was that marketing lady, i would have just said nothing like this exists, they're making it all up. slam dunk advertisement tbh
to me it still doesnt make sense that some random old guy was framed on the wall. why would they want that in a themed room or a room used for marketing. its just so random
I love the juxtaposition of the appearances of the decorations on the wall. First, you have g r o t e s q u e, UNNATURAL faces and people. Then, you have sKULLS! a classic horror trope, with different mixes of surrealism and exaggeration, emphasizing death. And finally, to top it all off,,,, you have a jpeg of a guy who looks like he could be a live-action Doug Dimmadome (owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome) that was just printed onto copy paper with your standard business InkJet printer, and put into a run-of-the-mill $15 maximum picture frame from a Walmart, under a slightly bigger paper border.
Marketing
G E N I U S !!!!
Solomon Daniels the (owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome) had my dying 😂😂
Yeah what's up with that? I'd buy that "its just marketing" explanation but with that random picture there.. I don't think so
Seems to me that picture is working really well as a part of the rooms mystique.
Just found you. Now a. Sub because lots of great stuff research, beautiful voice, interesting topic.
when the bed has to be chained to the wall you just know some serious banging goes on in there
Keeps it from being thrown over the balcony!
I love this guys dives, he's not covering it for shock value he actually wants the truth/ the closest he can get to it. Love it!
this channel is now a part of the mystery squad: night mind, reignbot, nexpo and scaretheater will have a new guy
I absolutely agree!! Great research and content and the presentation is top knotch!
I love all of those
maxie cant forget aswell
don't forget "inside a mind"
There was a guy who also did scary videos. He was Irish, he may have had glasses, his name was mike and he pronounced three like tree. Do any of you remember his RUclips channel name?
Bro that worker you called probs works minimum wage and only knows a little about the business. I work at a movie theater and most of the time I just agree with what the customer says unless it's so unbelievably stupid that I have to be real with them LOL
lmao, I can relate to that so much. I just agree with them so they will stop bothering me
Real talk, I used to work in retail when someone would ask me for an obscure dvd, I would just tell them we don’t have it. When they would insist I check the back, I would go into the back check my text messages and come back and tell them, we don’t have it.
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Why didn’t you just do your job and actually check? You went out of your way not to do your job.
@@VisionThing because we didn’t have it… it would show in our inventory scanner no results or 0-1 left in stock. Usually the 1 left would be an inventory error/lost/stolen/hidden item and people wouldn’t want to hear the truth that there is 1 left in stock so we say “sold out”. Stores want to sell their merchandise, the back room isn’t a magical place we’re we can just manifest items, usually what we have back there is overstock.
@@VisionThing most stores' catalogs are fully digitized and can be check on computers. "check in the back" is outdated, doesnt do anything, a waste of time but customers just insist on it, employees "go check in the back" just to avoid complaints, and get a quick break as a bonus
It would be so cool if he actually went there and asked them to book room 322 and saw what happened
Lol he couldn’t even ask about it over the phone. He would never go and ask to book it
"A play on a jail experience"
So it's a sex dungeon, dope
Yui Y. Nope. It’s a marketing gimmick the hotel uses to gain business.
@@joelb5674 So it's a sex dungeon, dope
@Random Name ok boomer
@Random Name so it's a sex dungeon, dope
Honestly, my first thought when I saw the photos of the room was that it's someone's private room. I don't think it's that uncommon for someone to pay month to month to keep a room for themselves if they have that kind of money to throw around. It actually might just be their "play room", if you will. If you are frequently meeting or paying people for sex, and want to keep your life private, something like this would be a nice compromise, rather than taking them back to your home. Concrete floors are easier to clean than carpeted ones depending on the kind of activities I'm thinking that go on there, and the style might just match the kind of kink the person is going for. That would also explain why the staff said that the room should never be rented out, the person renting it out might just always have a key and can just come and go whenever they want without having to check in everytime, or why the "themed room" is never mentioned in any listings. Idk about the photo of the one dude, but the art pieces just look like they might be from either a specific artist they like, or a person just might like them in general. I like the idea of a marketing scheme, but sounds too smart to be a hidden secret for so long.
But the picture of the ponzi scheme guy doesn't make a lot of sense if it's a "playpen". Why would you want that there? It's not even creepy. That only makes sense if you're setting up a viral marketing scheme to intrigue people.
On the other hand, it's possible that it was originally a themed room - the ponzi scheme guy's picture has a connection to jail, after all. But then somebody made a long-term arrangement for it, which is why for a period they were moving people out who were accidentally booked into it. Then eventually with the reddit post the marketing department might've just co-opted the "mystery" and decided on keeping it alive by not listing it on the site. They want people to call up and ask for the room.
@@TathD maybe it was his room specifically? like he took special street ladies to that room?
that was my first thought too, the pictures didn't come across as creepy to me, they were honestly pretty funny, I can't really explain why they are but seeing them in this vid honestly made me laugh. You have this nice fancy hotel with nice rooms and for no reason at all one of them just looks like a cheap escape room. It doesn't look like a room intentionally designed to be creepy or haunted as a marketing scheme for the hotel, it looks like the room is reserved for one specific person and they designed it themselves (which is why it looks so different from every other room, which were probably designed by proffessionals) and they just have bad taste. I can't explain the framed pic of the old guy, maybe the room owner is just a big fan, but the skulls and chained bed and everything else just looks like someones bad attempt at either a goth look or a kinky one. Most hotel rooms that try to look haunted usually rely on having a bunch of old furniture, not cheap Halloween props, and they usually advertise the hell out of those rooms rather than keep them secret. If the room being kept secret and "found out" by the internet was the plan to gain attention, it doesn't seem like a very reliable one. I also don't think the fact that the hotel's marketing agent being the one to answer the questions is really proof that this was all intentional either, I think they're just taking advantage of the sudden attention to their hotel to profit off it, lots of companies have done this kinda thing.
I’d say it’s a room for initiates of some frat that maybe the owner created or a large donor to the construction of the hotel-you put a recruit on that bed ply them with hallucinogenics and then boom make them lost their shit
Doubt that this is a playroom. There'd be a lot more equipment in the room. The fact that there are no cuffs, blindfolds, gags, etc. makes me believe this is a gimmick.
The hotel owner is a freak and thats his dungeon. All there is to it
I appreciate the extra effort of calling the place and asking about the theme room's. I agree it's more than likely a marketing scheme as well.
Could be a room that that chapter of fraternity uses for pledging purposes. They probably pay a certain amount a year to reserve that room for whichever reasons for the pledge process.
This is what I was thinking. I was in a frat (“secret society”) and the whole pledging/intitiatjon process involved a bunch of corny cult imagery and fake ceremonies. They’re also full of rich old dudes who are weirdly committed to it, so completely plausible that some guy pays to use this room for that
I keep thinking that piano intro music is going to turn into the song from majoras mask, but it never does.
Same lol. Song of Healing
I was looking for this comment.
It's a creepy room but I doubt it's used for sex slaves. Hotels aren't exactly sound proof.
Houston is one of the biggest ports for human trafficking in the world though.
@Gobblarr True enough
Hotel rooms built with bricks and concrete floors are pretty sound proof
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@Bunker Sieben Hehe... That probably went over the heads of some of the illiterates here.
It looks like it could have been an escape room.
@@bruno_kunda Unlikely here tho. I mean. It's in the US, and not in a low rent motel like one would expect for something like that in the US.
I was thinking since it`s only 4 star a minor celeb just bought it . I used to work in the Rittenhouse hotel in Philadelphia . 5 star . and a lot of celebs just booked standing rooms year round and intermittently stayed there . noone was allowed to clean them or go in for maintenance. demii moore and bruce willis had one that was just a wreck with leather jackets thrown everywhere .(just because we weren`t allowed doesn't mean we didn't go in we still had to do maintenance)
@@bruno_kunda hey bruno, fun fact, kunda means cunt in czech
The framed photo of that dude really said: 😃
the first 10 seconds I was like "oh sweet, the Clock Tower theme from Majora's Mask"
Rubberduck645 YES
but my question is where the hell is the original version of it?
I WANNA KNOW THE MUSIC FROM 0:03 TO 0:22
SO DID I LMAO
@@krisjinstark4843 It's Dark Sanctuary - Les Memoires Blessees.
I think u r correct. the design of the room is too "clean" to be really a sex (slave) thing. It seems they "decorated" everything more like props, and not really usable things. for example the chains: why use them? their length cant be adjusted, they are very loud when someone would move widly, banging against thing and thus be easily hearable through the next rooms or even a floor. ropes or something made of leather or something else would be much smarter i would imagine. i dont have a background in the hotel industry, but in marketing and i didnt believe that this room was real for a second when i saw the pics, but was clearly made for marketing purposes.
It's from the Fifty Shades school of bondage.
As secs dungeon rooms go, that one's very much a disaster. There's ... no actual theme, there's no cohesive substance to it. Skulls here, skulls there, skulls everywhere. A half assed attempt to chain the bed, ripped up carpet (the room was once, clearly a finished room, going by the floor alone) there's no apparent wear on the shown items, where as even on some of the best pictures off the best rooms available, you can still spot some natural wear if you spend the time to look for it.
I'll go along with the same theory, a pathetic attempt at supping up the hotel. I'll go even further, and say this. The hotel wasn't even full, and they might not meet ends.
"Creepy picture of an old man"
Old Man in the picture watching this: *Pikachu face*
Or maybe just a normal picture of a middle-aged man. Truly terrifying, to say the least.
Can you tell everyone To not like your comment as it is in 69??
Old man looks like the school principal
I'll have the Epstein suit please, room 322
I think that's the room where he didn't kill himself
THIS
My thoughts. And what better pictures to scare kids.
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I've watched a few videos from this channel over the past few days. I love the fact that, unlike a lot of the dozens of similar channels, there's a strong streak of skepticism. No woo-woo, no conspiracy theories. Just rational theories. At least from what I've seen so far. Subscribed.
Me: *Walks by Room 322*
Also me: *Hears a noise coming from Room 322*
Oh? What’s that?
Me: *Proceeds to listen out for noise*
But then..I heard it...
_"I did not hit her, its not true- its bullshit! I did not hit her- i did naaaht...Oh hi Mark"_
shut the fuck up
You took time to write a joke script for yourself , which has been done a million times over and over again. How original are you? You absolute dick cheese. Shut the Fuck up
Ahhhhhhh DUDE YOU WIN !!!! Stick around for the gunshot !
@@deputybluevein93 absolute dick cheese
milky Agreed. That wasn’t very funny.
I've worked in the hotel industry for 10 years now and at multiple different hotels.
My theory is that that is a staff accommodation room in the building. Someone likely lives in that room who has to be on premises even while off the clock. Night security, maintenance, etc. The hotel I work with right now in fact has the entire basement level reserved for staff to live in but guests would never guess since the hallways look just like the rest of the hotel.
As for the room decor. You may just not understand their taste. My room at home looks like a hippie and a goth were living in it, yet I am single.
Oh and as for the staff room accidentally being rented out. You'd be surprised at how inept workers and even managers can be in the industry.
No industry is better at bullshitting you than the hospitality industry though so who knows for sure.
Youte theory is bad. Youre an idiot. The end.
@@goldo1107 and you have no manners
@@azarishere6442 RUclips comments. People say dumb shit they will win stupid prizes. So fuck manners here.
idk why would they say it's a normal themed room if this was the case though, and then suddenly have to deal with people asking for it?
@@MegaKaitouKID1412 My guess is that they're just really that bad. Most hotel workers are paid minimum wage. It's pretty easy to stop caring about your job when they don't pay you enough.
That room is embarrassing looking, I don't know what the hell they use it for but I assure you that it's not a BDSM sex dungeon lmao.
I’m obsessed with ur commentary, ur voice matches the often serious/scary topics without itself sounding serious/scary what a strange phenomenon
The owner probably has a son or daughter that is weird and that is their room to get away from their parent and act like a spoiled rich kid.
that is exactly what that room is. kid stays there when theyre in town.
@@Shamrock627 Doesn't explain the picture of the Ponzi scheme guy lmao
@@jonsampson3030 yes, the room has way too many mysterious napkins
Sounds like the premise of 90s Nickelodeon show lol
@@jonsampson3030 I knew a few guys in high school who would've thought it was funny or edgy to have Dr Ponzi on their walls.... along with the chains on the bed
I remember going into one of the top floor rooms with a friend years back. It was at the end on the hallway. The door was wide open with all the lights off. Kinda spooky as it was night time, but one thing stood out was a clawfoot bath tub on the patio.
Considering the fact that Vice definitely has a history of disguising advertisements as articles, I would agree with this theory.
Capitalist media = manipulation.
If there’s two things I love it’s creepy mysteries and buttery voices. Subbed.
I don't think that room really looks that weird or quirky. I have seen rooms with a similar vibe in modern hotels that are going for a quirky, edgy look. It's totally the sort of thing a bunch of designers and marketing people would come up with after a brainstorming session!
"The name Hard Times is very fitting for something that looks like a sex dungeon"
IM DEAD
Of course you're dead, you're a skeleton
@@nabilrady6767 honestly this is one of the funniest replies i've ever seen 😂😂
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My thoughts:
The clerk saying the room wasn't meant to be rented out meant that perhaps it was reserved for someone or there was an error in the fact that a guy who wanted a regular-ass room got rented a theme room. It's probably not advertised because it's a BDSM room (not exactly advertiser-friendly) and may have been custom decorated for a wealthy person with a BDSM fantasy who probably wanted to keep things discrete. Mystery solved.
Nah for reals though, the reality is probably something as mundane as this. Otherwise, some regular joe shmoe working there (like the clerk) would've blabbed about it already.
That was my theory too
This can't be BDSM. The post said that other than the furniture and pictures, the room was empty. I'd expect there to be equipment. If it's for one specific person, they'd keep their stuff in there. And if it's for any old person to rent, the hotel would keep BDSM stuff in there. If I rented a BDSM room, and there wasn't anything for BDSM in it, I'd be pretty mad. And why the random dude? That's the part that takes this from "probably not" to "certainly not."
exactly. i think this room is probably someone who basically lives there. there's people who rent out a room at a hotel bc they are homeless or whatever and that room basically becomes theirs since they never leave. maybe the person wasn't able to pay for one night or so, hence why there isn't any actual belongings there. or it could always be a room meant for staff in case they have to work overnight and need somewhere to stay. it could possibly be the owner of the hotels room which now that i think about it, makes the most sense. if the owner ever came by and needed a place to stay, that is their room to stay in. hence why it was never supposed to be rented out to begin with. 😊
My theory is that they're telling the truth about it being renovated as a theme room, but once it was completed they realized it was actually off putting/creepy and wasn't very popular or got complaints from guests. At that point it was probably designated as a spare room for staff in case employees had to spend the night in an emergency. Employees may have also hung up the weird art work and Ponzi scheme guy portrait in an attempt to make the room creepier for comedic reasons.
2:00
creepy picture
even creepier picture
old man with moustache... what
Alternative theory: it was a prototype themed room that they ended up not liking, but because of its unique design, it's already set and unable to be renovated.
As someone further up said, a hotel isn't going to just let a space sit in a hotel without being used, the profit margins on hotels are extremely small. If they just didn't like that space, they wouldn't just let it stay there, they'd redecorate it, re-purpose it for something else. A hotel always wants every one of its beds filled. By holding that spot vacant just because they don't like it, they're losing out on potentially $200+ a night, while it could easily be re-designed or refurnished for an amount that would be covered by just a few weeks of having the room open to the public. The only thing that makes it weird is stuff that's hanging on the walls. Pictures and a chain. Easily able to be renovated.
@David Parry ooh, great Idea
The fact that the black filter isn't placed perfectly and I can still see a thin line of the original color on the left is giving me anxiety.
Most hotels have whole “hidden” floors for housekeeping and laundry usually its on the “ mysterious” 13th floor
Not gonna lie, that's a nice skull painting.
Honestly it just looked like an extra room that was too small to be finished properly
But what about the mystery of the "ship's cabin"?
I am going to try to stay in that one!
Can’t cover that room it would be overboard
@TheStoutProtagonist You think this is a parroty or something?
It’s weird living in Houston your whole life and just now hearing about popular weird stories about your city
Thank you for trying to end these with a logical solution instead of trying to reinforce the craziest theory the way most do. it is refreshing.
13:57 the way he read that lmao
When a person does this 'goofy voice' thing, it's called an allidicodium.
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 I learned something new
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@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 okay smart pants
You are the next big thing in this genre of channel
I would say after your phone call, that hotel probably has it's own mystery about this guy who started integrating a receptionist about the fact they only have 11 themed compact suits and was going through the list on the website like it's Law and Order
You actually called them. I respect that, and am subbing
First instinct: An edgy teenagers room, maybe the son of the hotel owners. He lives there but wasn't using it at the time, which would explain why the staff aren't supposed to give the room away despite having a spare one.
Marketing makes sense, but it'd be the most subtle and delayed-payoff marketing in hotel history. Practically, not many hotel managers would give up a room and move people to and from it for *years* on the offchance it gets picked up as a mystery.
I'm actually spending my whole day binging these videos. And I'm not done yet. Thanks for these videos BS :)
Starbucks wont admit to employees intentionally misspelling customer names to drum up social media posts and free attention. As long as it's not negative, like racism or other crap, I dont see an issue with this type of marketing. At least its interesting, and not an infomercial pitch.
The Reel Angler damn that’s actually smart as hell lmao
I worked there and basically yes.
I worked at Starbucks and absolutely hated my job and the company so i wouldn’t be trying to defend them for whatever reason and i can 100% say that we just misspell your names because we’re fucking stupid and that place is loud
@McBlyatDimitri if people are offended by their name being misspelled on a cup of coffee, they need to reevaluate their life. Invoking outrage over everything may be a new national pastime, but there is a point at which people need to ask themselves if getting angry about every single thing is worth the ulcer its causing.
I also heard the meme for airpods was basically another scheme from Apple for free promotion for their product.
My theory is that they hype up this room by "accidentally" letting someone in with a camera / cell phone camera and then that story is how they can excuse why the room costs so much more, for rich perverts.
That sounds very plausible
It felt the same to me
Yup , that's the 1st though I had , it's 100% marketing and it's working well..
Why does this man only have 719 thousands subscribers for this quality get him 1 million subscribers now !!!!!!
this just seems like the equivalent of a Starbucks secret menu item...
you just earned my sub. i'm loving these reddit mysteries. great job laying it all out there.
The level of detail, structure and organization in your videos is phenomenal. Quality content thru and thru
For reference, a hotel's star rating has nothing to do with the quality of the furnishings etc. Stars are a guide to what facilities are available.
"No one could live comfortably there."
Pfft, sure, Sociable. It's actually just Glen Danzig's permanently-booked room for whenever he's in Houston.
😀!!!!!
True
Do the walls drip blood? And is there a pile of evil bricks beside the door,out in the hallway?😂
@@zacharymcmillan2788 ELF BLOOD ... And it flows UP the wall
Couldn’t be Danzig’s room. Not enough books or comic books.
Your theory is absolutely correct for a few reasons. Many hotels or motels that seem normal have secret themed rooms to drum up controversy of some kind.
Their room becomes a internet mystery
Also them:
*STONKS*
well yeah lol
That mocking voice for the Vice Interview. Fantastic. So glad you were suggested to me!
Imagine how much fun whoever designed it had doing so- "Hey Paul, you were an emo 13 year old, right?...."
“Hard Times” is a novel by Charles Dickens, not sure if that fits in here though!
that is what I was thinking about :^)
DICKens #sexdungeon
Pretty sure it's the name of a video game too
Room 1408 by Stephen King definitely applies here. Movie is also on RUclips and worth the watch imo. A lot of philosophical subtext around the horror/thriller aspect.
"Hard" also refers to male sexual arousal.
I just watched a 15min ad fantastic
you shouldn’t be complaining it’s a wonderful ad
I have worked maintenance at hotels and office buildings, its very common to have rooms that are basically glorified storage closets, some even still have room numbers and electronic card entry systems. These are sometimes used as hangout spots or makeshift offices for janitorial or other staff. So might not be rented all the time, but could get rented by new employees or changes in designation. The computer system might still consider the room available to rent even though its a "closet".
So that room is obviously for staff orgies
Stayed in a hotel in Belgium that had celebrity themed rooms. We got the Madonna themed room and safe to say I was mildly uncomfortable
Did it smell like desperation ?
What’s the name of this hotel?
Have you heard of a comedian called Sean Lock? He does a madonna bit, but if you haven't seen it the reference makes no sense.
"ALRIGHT, SEAN!? YA COME TO GET YA PRIZE, SEAN??"
*scamper scamper scamper*
"OHHH IM READY FOR YA...."
*scamper scamper*
That guy’s pause after “are these the only themed rooms?” is suuuuuuper shady
i've had this in my saved posts on reddit forEVER now thank you for this