Band of Brothers Podcast | Episode 2 with John Orloff & Richard Loncraine | HBO Max
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2021
- The episode’s writer and director each delve into the recreation, production, and filming of an invasion that carried the future of modern democracy on its shoulders. From the paratroopers flinging themselves out of C-47s, to the capture of German 105mm machine guns at Brecourt Manor, Orloff and Loncraine reveal how they captured the terror, confusion and heroism of one of the most important days in modern history. #BandOfBrothers
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Band of Brothers Podcast | Episode 2 with John Orloff & Richard Loncraine | HBO Max 
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What’s one thing you learned from this episode?
Thrilled that you’re doing this!!
The analysis of Spiers and his actions was spot-on. They were ordered to do various tasks, and Spiers did not want to get bogged down behind enemy lines with prisoners. YES...it was wrong in my opinion, but the protection of the lives of the guys coming onto the beach were more important.
Teamwork.
What's the real war is?
The randomness of war. Why do some survive and others die?
It brought home that no matter how fit, how well trained, if luck isn’t with you, there’s a strong chance you don’t make it.
Everyone sighing in relief after some one acknowledges the Blithe situation LOL
While I didn’t get to meet Maj. Winters while he was alive a few years ago I visited his grave in Pennsylvania, he’s buried on a hill overlooking a patchwork of farm field. It’s a tranquil place and I can’t help but wonder if he ever found that peace he sought in times of extreme darkness.
I was fortunate enough to meet Major Winters, Carwood Lipton and Walter Gordon in New Orleans in 1994. Ambrose brought them to a WW2 seminar. They were great. I’m 51 now and it is still one of the best moments of my life.
I learned that Dick Winters is an incredible man, and the Damian Lewis is an incredible actor.
I've known both of those things since late 2001.
it's quite incredible that so many of these independent writers came to the same format for so many episodes, which is to follow one specific character for an episode, like Blithe in Carentan, Eugene is Bastogne, Lipton in Breaking Point.
Thanks again John, brilliant work.
The things that Mr. Orloff says about these heroes rings so true. My father was a 2nd battalion Ranger at pointe du hoc. His war wounds contributed to his early death when I was just 13 so I never really knew him man to man, but I certainly knew how special his relationships with his fellow soldiers were. I’m so grateful that I did get to know some of those men.
For real, the host's introductions really do get me hyped for his guest. Well done and thank you.
The best WW2 series of all time. The characters were well defined and their impassioned presentation of these great men is unsurpassed. The presenter of these podcasts is brilliant
Roger is a terrific host. Enthusiasm for the show is obvious. Only wish episodes were longer. Thanks.
Also Winters didn't drink and alcohol played a big part of Easy Company reunions from accounts I've heard. It's awkward being the only one sober at a boozy get together.
God I love watching Buck throw that grenade like he's back at UCLA playing baseball. I mean you'd have to be pretty confident in your throwing abilities to toss one like that. Everyone said Buck loved himself some grenades and I love that they were loyal to that fact.
I have to say how impressed with the research and preparation that went into the pod cast. As a BOB fan I have found it both informative and entertaining. Thank you.
This episode took my breath away. Even though it focused tightly one just a few men, it somehow conveyed the magnitude of the whole D-Day operation. Maybe because the big story is so familiar to us? Anyway, how audacious those men were, making their first jump in combat conditions, and then performing brilliantly in their first taste of combat. We owe so much to them.
In Day of Days, the character of Hall was played by Andrew Scott who is now best known as the hot priest from Fleabag AND Moriarty from Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock. It really is amazing how many big named British actors got their starts in Band of Brothers playing American soldiers.
Andrew Scott is Irish. Last time I checked, we’re not British.
Andrew Hall is an outstanding Irish actor.
I'm a HUGE old time radio fan and a HUGE BoB fan. I had no idea that the great grandson of Fibber McGee and Molly wrote 2 of the episodes of BoB. My mind is blown right now.
I wish that during the numerous mentions of Pfc Hall, he could have been correctly identified as Pfc John D. Halls (not Hall) from Colorado (not New York). He is buried at the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial.
Rest in Peace Pfc. Halls
Love this series. Love learning any behind scenes info.
But no one ever mentions the haunting soundtrack. It's absolutely brilliant.
Love this series of podcasts ... really phenomenal host and questioning. You can tell even the guests are impressed with his knowledge and good questions.
I remember playing with my guns of navarone mountain for hours. Worked perfect with my fisher price castle and little green army men!
Thank you, this has added so much to Memorial Day for me. I was born in 1945 on November 5th. It was the end of the war. Yet the story's and the emotions go on. I wasn't apart of those stories as they happened, but I felt the emotions as those story's were told.
So the war was part of my life experience from the beginning. Naturally I
appreciate being able to learn from reliable sources with a point of view that resonates with me.
I'm religious for one important part of how I listen and learn. My family line is English, Irish and Scottish on my maternal side and Swiss on my father's side. Both sides of my family were in America by 1900. So for both both worlds wars. But I like to hear how the free countries of the world fought together. That there is unity and appreciation for each other.
I love the desire expressed to try to find peaceful solutions. To express the insanity of using war as a way of solving problems. While realizing that once a war starts it needs to be brought to an end that brings about a peace that respects individual human rights and freedom. We have been grately blessed. And at time so close to Memorial Day - I would like to thank those who served inorder to preserve freedom and peace in the world and to The Lord of Heaven and Earth for bringing about this wonderful blessing 🙏 ❤.
The only thing I would change in the show would be the run times of each episode. 1 hour and 30 mins per episode then, 2 hours for the finale. Just so they could tell more of the stories of these Heroes.
Winters would have told you that it wasn’t chaotic, but rather a planned and coordinated attack starting on the enemy’s flank and rolling it up according to a field prepared plan.
Yes, I saw Winters in an interview and that was one of his complaints that the TV show made it look like they were lost. He said they were never lost. How were they able to mostly all converge within a day or two despite getting dropped all over France? They were made to memorize every detail of the countryside so if they saw a river or railroad they had a pretty good idea where they were. Winters really wanted to point out how well trained everyone was in this regard.
@@rabbit251 Agreed: being scattered in the airdrop isn’t being lost. Within a brief time, Winters got his bearings and realized how far he was from his objective.
this was literally talked about Tom Hanks in episode 1 lol
My father's (rip) unit, the 38th engineers, built the pow camps at Utah beach. It took quite some time, sometimes there is no other recourse. Great podcast.
always found it odd that none of the veterans from the jump into sicily weren't spread out thru the 101st division (and easy company) to give each unit some men with real combat experience..
Because that would turn combat vets into just another group of replacements, this that policy happened with regular army units an it was an awful mistake, combat vets became killed because they had no special bond with their units. After the war thro US army and US Marines did a report of their respective polices, and determined the Marines got it right.
In the USMC, wounded Marine was returned to his original unit. In the Army, besides Rangers and Airborne he went to the most needed, this made valuable comradeship and experience lost. Vs the other policy that meant returning men were welcomed and raised moral rather than outcasts. The US Army determined that, green formations should be as grouped together as possible, as they, despite their inexperience, acted generally the same, vs mixing which resulted in green troops being killed or getting vets killed, and leaving the unit understrigth again and unit cohesion difficult. "When half the platoon is veterans, no one is, half take cover, half charge.
In all green units, either everyone charges together, or no one does but at least it's uniform "
@@Captainkebbles1392 very well put
Great job with this podcast
Fascinating talk with John Orloff. Day of Days is such a crisply written episode.
One thing I learned from the episode was how great a tactical mind Winters had. Also saw him face the reality of command and cost of war.
More importantly than the details of the battles, the impact of the battles, the trauma on the men was very well represented in every episode.
Wow. I did not know John Orloff's Great Grandparents were Jim and Marion Jordan. My father grew up on Fibber Magee and Molly. Through cassette tapes he passed down his love for old time radio including Fibber's closet. Yeah. We watched the radio just like he did.
Great interviewer and great podcast. It makes me want to see the movie again...and I've seen it almost a dozen times!
I had the Guns of Navarone playset! The most awesome accessory for Army Men ever invented!
I’ve watched the full series now 229 times, including finishing it again (for #229) this past Sunday. I’d love to be on the podcast as a super fan for lack of a less cheesy term. I could talk for hours from everything to the cinematographer to the acting of any and all characters to the incredibly accuracy of the stories without having to embellish anything….which should never be necessary when doing a true war movie or series.
The coordinates are for Brecourt Manor
Beat me to it
@@geekazoid1983 You can get the next one
John Orloff is related to Peggy Knudsen who played Mona Mars, wife of Eddie Mars, in the 1946 version of The Big Sleep.
"Maybe written a little bit longer" yeah it would have been nice to see a manor at Brecourt Manor. Great writing though and I am really enjoying these interviews.
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There's a mistake in this podcast; Hall is identified as belonging to the 1st. Division, Able Co. He was from the 101st., Airborne.
In this episode I was surprised to hear you ask John Orloff about Spiers doing it or not . I assumed that you KNEW that he did it and more ! Before the book was published and to avoid a lawsuit Winters called "Sparky " Spiers" to validate or deny the now famous Rumour which Spiers replied and said YES I did do it and to go ahead and put what they wanted to in the book .Winters asked for a letter stating as such which SPIERS sent to Winters and is now available in WINTERS archive !
While I do agree for the most part of the depiction of WWII in most movies, I also remember the Lee Marvin film - The Big Red One - being the type of film that Band of Brothers would be.
It was ahead of it's time, and should be acknowledged in the same vein as BOB.
The Big Red One is terrible
Sam Fuller was full of other people's stories
Agree with you VO despite what Kyle may opine. I liked The Big Red One which unglorified war. Maybe that's why Kyle doesn't like it.
@@kyleh3615 Maybe, I loved that film myself, and that's okay - but you have to admit that Big Red One looked at a lot of internal struggles that most other films that did not show.
@@rabbit251 Well it might just be a dislike of Sam Fuller. And that's okay to not like the film - just make sure you acknowledge the themes.
Thanks for the kind words, and yeah, it really did a good job of unglorifying, but it was also a cinematic masterpiece to me.
The analysis of Spiers and his actions was spot-on. They were ordered to do various tasks, and Spiers did not want to get bogged down behind enemy lines with prisoners. YES...it was wrong in my opinion, but the protection of the lives of the guys coming onto the beach were more important...
Not wrong, you must destroy your enemies. No prisoners.
@@jimmycakes7158 D Day is the extreme situation where the normal rules of the game go out the window.
The problem is once you say Spiers' actions was a completely acceptable tactical decision then you're basically saying the SS were also right for killing the Allied prisoners that they captured in Normandy in events like the Ardenne Abbey Massacre. That's one problem with war; if the victors do it then it's fine, but if the losers do it then it's a war crime and they need to be punished.
@@mrquirky3626 It's not really right but the lesser of 2 evils.
@@mrquirky3626 You do have a point. The Malmedy massacre comes to mind where the Germans were racing toward an objective and didn't have the time or logistical ability to take prisoners and did what Spiers did...
Dear Person that's reading this we don't know each-other but i wish you all the best in life❤
Thank you right back at you
Stop writing this stuff dude
Love you bro
Same 2 you brother
55:40 He said they failed if BoB makes people wish they were there. Most of us who love the series wish we were there in Easy Coy. in WW2 😆😆 This series could be used as Military ads. But you did not fail, BoB makers. You made the best military series/movie ever. It makes us nostalgic for a time we were never even a part of.
I understand how you feel this way, but when you get that nostalgic feeling I hope you temper it with the reality of these men's lives when they returned. My father was a Marine in the Pacific and he suffered terrible PTSD symptoms until died in 2014. He hated people who glorified the war and said the #1 reason he fought was so his children wouldn't have to. Don't take our relative peace for granted.
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!7:00 Malarky was in combat longer than the other NCOs, since he wasn't wounded. He was spared nothing, including seeing his brothers horribly wounded and killed, while he continued to survive, with barely a scratch. That weighs heavily on a man and, in the documentary, he is the one voice you hear really express that he had problems after the war. Audie Murphy, the most decorated soldier of the war, was plagued with nightmares and PTSD and was one of the first to speak publicly about it.
This is so cool
I absolutely love roger. He is hands down the best pod cast host ever.
Anybody know the name of the satellite company the director mentioned that got a ground image of the old trenches?
I’m researching my relative who is MIA from a WW2 B-24 air mission and wondering if that satellite technology could be used to help the search.
Grande série show
im waiting for a remasterd band of brothers!
Im Waiting For For 20th Or 25th Anniversary Release With The Unsued Footage And Content Put Back In!
It was surprising to hear that the D-Day on Okinawa was much larger.
That’s impressive story about moving a satellite to get a top view of the area wanted to shoot at.
FYI, it's not "Fibber and McGee", it's "Fibber McGee and Molly".
In the next episode can u ask some technical questions? Like camera stuff and work around stuff to make things work out.
HBO copywriter, heads up about the description on this video: "the capture of German 105mm machine guns at Brecourt". They aren't machine guns, they're cannons.
That's on par with referring to an AR-15 as a "sparkler"
Woah you're an expert
Easy Company Memorial !
have a nice day
I wonder why Dick Winters only went to a few band of brothers reunions over the years ? Perhaps he wanted to leave the war behind him.
He was the boss, and E Company men looked at him as his boss. The relationship is different
I always wondered why Hall and Joseph Liebgott were left off the list of Bronze Star recipients for the Brécourt Manor assault at the end of the episode.
I am surprised there was no writers room.
Wow, three episodes in, finally, the guests don't sound like they're talking through tin cans.
Where is Episode 1 with Ron Livingston?
Let’s go
Why HBO Max is not in INDIA
Time for a VPN!
Wow
So they were in the European theater for 11 months?
Uh, yeah, if you calculate it out. But they were also part of the occupation force. That was a reward in ways as it was in Austria in the most beautiful place in Europe. But the real calculation is the number of serious battles that they were involved in. Replacements tells that story very well as later men joined and really didn't see any action. Compared to the Tacoa men who saw months of action after D-Day, then were in Market Garden, then were in the Battle of Bulge. Those were 3 major battles with heavy casualties and the 101st paid the price. Other men barely saw any action. That was somewhat displayed when Maj. Winters got a pass to go to Paris and at a cafe had to bump up with some rude soldiers. The price that these men paid and what they gave for us was overwhelming.
I had a landlord before who was in Patton's 3rd Army. He acted all tough. But when I checked him out later I found he was nothing but a clerk and according to records never saw any action. This has been my experience. Those who actually saw action were so horrified by it they don't want to relive it or talk about it. Those who never did a thing exaggerate the experience.
@@rabbit251 thank u. I asked because I know that there were some units that were there since North Africa.
Why do I get the feeling this guy re records his questions? Something just seems off. It doesn’t sound like a natural conversation. It sounds like a narrator and then cutting to a recording the subject answering a question. What’s going on here? I get that the audio quality is different from probably doing this over zoom but it sounds so edited. Like he asked the questions like a regular person and then goes and re records it later to add flourishes? I duno. I can’t put my finger on it.
I think he just edits the conversations down to just the pertinent stuff, and trims away the rest.
Thats got to be it
Yes, it sounds painfully edited
Not natural
@@kyleh3615 Yeah, I'm not a particularly big fan of show interviewers/producers doing that. I would prefer to have the entire live conversation, and then if the interviewer/producer wants to go back and bleep a word here or there, fine. But the interviewer should be adept enough at conversations and interviews to where editing isn't at all necessary. And of course, it takes away from the listening experience of the audience. This is why you don't usually hear an interview being done in this style.
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"Not a generation that talked about themselves." Oh, lord, if only the millennials would adopt some of this. I mean, millennials take photos of what they're eating, for heaven's sake, thinking the world needs to know what they ate! The sense of self-importance is truly appalling. How I miss my father's generation. As they have died out, it seems like dignity, pride, and inner strength has died with them. They saved the world. God bless them.
I am a 76 year old Vietnam War Combat Disabled Veteran 1966-67 whose father and an uncle fought in the Pacific and 3 uncles that fought in Europe and I still miss them all.
I honestly didnt think someone could make band of brothers sound boring but you nailed it lol
This interviewer is waaay tooo excited, it's not good, it's too much.
Gotta say, I look at Spears differently knowing that. I know most ppl will look at the fact that they were German POWs and say who cares but jesus that’s just horrible.
They didn't explain it very well here (well, they more like danced around it), but according to Winters, they had specific orders not to take prisoners. As such, Spears was following orders--and spared his NCOs and soldiers from having to execute the prisoners themselves. Understandably, the Airborne troopers lacked the manpower and equipment necessary to take, house, and feed prisoners, so what was their real alternative? War is an ugly and brutal business--and as such, things like that happen in war. You can't fault Spears for doing what had to be done, versus endangering the mission and men had he failed to follow those orders. Otherwise, you end up with Upham's pleas ultimately causing the death of Capt Miller (Saving Private Ryan).
I'm enjoying this series of podcasts but I do wish the host wasn't so annoying.
I really wanted to like this podcast as I think BoB is a masterful achievement but after 2 episodes I just can't grit my teeth through the host's way of presenting any more. His way of talking combined with the hyperbolic script just put me off.
Its like an over excited radio announcer
I want to hear what the people who are from the production have to say
But his way of talking pulls you out of a normal interview mindset
Agree. It's such a strange way of speaking. Just talk normally and not like you're reading a children's book.
Phew..I thought it was just me. Such a shame. Really tried but just can't stand it
I've caught up with the episodes and he has toned it down a bit. Still annoying but not as much.
@@pdgoldfish I think some of it is that he usually calls football games.
The Genius of the show is the fact that it came to be so brilliant after being based on such an awful book. Stephen Ambrose was a fraud.
Yeah It Was Ok The Book No Disrespects To The Veterans But The Book Didnt Really Quiet Do Them Justice I Dont Why Some People Think Its A Case Of Book Better Than Film I Think In This Case Its The Other Way Round. Think Band Of Brothers Is A Case Of TV Series Show Better Than Book
Hated the shaky camera in the entire BoB series. IMO it was a fad of directors and it didn't work for any movie (or show) well.
Are You Kidding???? It Was What Made The Show So Epic!!
He kinda sounds a bit like Jordan Peterson but less girly.
I am the 506th liker for this video, yes.
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Lol. Jesus, give it up. We got the Snyder Cut. Enough already
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